S4 - Ep. 77 - Karen & Chris

This week, Karen and Chris talk about heckler shame spirals, hot air balloon bits and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Are you leaving?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I you wanna way back home? Either way, we want
to be there.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us
time and aid, termino and gage.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
We want to send you off in style.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
We wanna welcome you back home. Tell us all about it.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
We scared her? Was it fine? Mal porn? Do you

(00:49):
need to ride? Do you need to ride? Do you
need to ride? Do you need to ride? Do you
need to ride? Do your need do you ride?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Ride? Do you need with Karen and Chris welcome to
Do you need a ride? This is Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgareff.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh oh, wide turn.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Easy, mini van.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
I've never been a middle of the road blind corner accelerator,
have you.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Everyone that lives on this hill is yeah. They love
to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
It's like it gives him power, a feeling of power,
I guess. And what what what a better day to
explore that than in the rain?

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, where you don't have a sure footing?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yes, when you can easily slide like all of the
Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift players.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
One through eight, nine, seven, and ten, And.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Don't forget faster and furiouser just a sarcastic title for
your joke movie franchise that makes billions.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Wait a minute, that is one of the real titles.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Faster and serious, sir.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Maybe not exactly, but they did one of those where
it was like a play on.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, that's I'm on the fence. I I am fifty
to fifty If that's real or not?

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Tonallys do you mind breaking the silent breaking the code?
It is too fast, too furious? It is, that's chromatically correct.
Mine was a little a joke version.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
I like faster furious. I think William, we'll see it
just around the corner.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I love that it's raining, though. I'm me too.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
It causes me to sneeze in groups of twelve m hm,
and it is usually twelve.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's more than ten, that's for sure, not quite fifteen.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Right.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
I had to leave a workout class because I wouldn't
stop sneezing.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, people bump out.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah they will.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
They go from blasphew to because they're high to excuse you.
That's where it's like you have a problem, excuse you,
which is actually pretty rude.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Someone said, that's you going to workout?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Excuse you? Yeah? Did you?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Sorry?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
But were you doing a full like scream, sneeze, open
mouth kind of like no.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I'm just I was.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
It just wouldn't stop. And I'm working out.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
I was doing push ups and the kettlebell lifting and all.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
It's like a circuit.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Train and you're trying to power through that.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
I thought my allergies would go away. Usually if you
start doing an activity, your allergies are like, okay, we'll
save it for later when you're trying to relax or sleep.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
But it wouldn't. I was sneezing in a class. I
had to leave.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I mean I think that is best.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
And as I left, they all shared clapping.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
No, no, they would, but it was annoying. I just
kept saying sorry, and I was having an attack. And
I think I'm the only person I know that is
specifically allergic to rain. Yeah, give me feathers, give me pollen,
room full of cats.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
But I bet you're not allergic to rain.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I bet you're allergic to something where the first rain
interacts with something else, and that's the chemical.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
It would it would be weird if you were allergic
to rain.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
It is I know. I used to be allergic to
the ocean, but it had to be something else.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
But you're saying fish, all those shell fish you wouldn't
stop eating.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, I'm allergic to cloud residue. There's something in the air.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yes, yes, also in this place.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
I do apologize when I tell you this is a dirty,
dirty town.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
So we think like this is like the cleansing rain
kind of anywhere else, but here it's like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Know, Yeah, it is just me though.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I think maybe it's not even so much an allergy
as whatever. The opposite reason of old folks moving to
the desert deal with dying, to deal with dying and
be any inflammatory. I think rain is very inflammatory, especially
politically with its remarks. Yes, because when I'm in a

(05:15):
desert community, what is this.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Person even thinking alooing dumb mass.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Middle of the road full confidence? Why not?

Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's raining reversal into a parking spot and they are
in the center of their lane, not close to They're
not sidling.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Up to the parking spot at all.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
No, they were just trying to Like that was like
an like a sixteen year old girl who's like, I
don't know, I guess I'll just try this.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
I think it's someone that was not doing it confidently
as they're backing up.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
We couldn't hear that. They were screaming inside the car.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Oh, you have to park somewhere. It's like, go around
the block. Then, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, it's I've seen amazing parallel.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Parking, especially in this town anyway. Anyhow, More importantly.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's all that aside. I love the rain that still.
It makes me happy.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
It's the best.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
It's the closest. We have to change every year if
it rains. It's like, where am I is this Seattle?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Look at us? Do you have depression? No, I'm just
wearing a big sweater.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
People always said, yeah, there's a lot of depression and
suicide in Seattle and Portland, and I just don't see why.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
But I know that's true. Yeah, especially Portland is the best.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I really like it.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
I do love Seattle too, though.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I always have. That's where I wanted to live.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, pretty great places.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
I was on a youth group trip in two vans.
We were driving through Seattle. I got into the youth
group because of the free food on Wednesdays, and then
I'm like, Hey, these are nice people.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm gonna stick with it.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Hope they don't ask me about the Bible, I've never
ready And we were driving down a hill and it
was a day in Seattle, so they had to make
it look rainy for a movie they were shooting. And
we drove by and these two guys were walking and
there was huge you know, apparatuss that made it look

(07:15):
like rain and actual rain coming down on entire block.
So I'm like that, I don't know anything about movies.
I'm only seventeen, but that's got a big budget, I said.
And then later watching Sleepless in Seattle, it's that scene,
oh with and I swear it depends on which take

(07:35):
they took, but I'm sure they didn't make Rob Reiner
and and what's his very famous name, Tank you for
telling me walk down that block over and over. So
I think we were from pretty much driving by during
that scene in the movie.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
And I didn't know until I watched the movie. Oh
my god, I was there.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
I've seen this for that's incredible.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
And also I've never seen that movie, so I if
this is supposed to be a like the moment I'm
supposed to recognize, I've never seen it.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
No, yeah, it's very specific, and even if you've seen it,
you wouldn't remember that specific shot because you weren't.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
There in a van with me in nineteen.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Ninety two, wasn't that van?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Chris ross Yep, Cameron Mannheim.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Cameron Mannheim, who I just realized right now.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Was in my youth group.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
No, no, but I did realize Jeffamantu's in Pearl jam
Yep showed me a picture because I was talking to
him about these giant They were like brick embankments on
campus that were of course perfect for skateboarding, but skateboarding
was just starting, so people would just go up them

(08:53):
and down them, and I remember someone knowing how to
escate back then. This was like in the before I started,
like mid eighties, like maybe nineteen eighty six or seven.
And he said, yeah, I used to skate those banks,
and he showed me a photo of him while he
was in college, and I was like, I remember you

(09:15):
at that age.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I recognized that person.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Because you watched him skate and were like that guy's school.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, and I And when I saw the Temple of
the Dog video, I wasn't like that bass player was
the guy skateboarding.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It wasn't. I didn't put it together, much.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Like Cameron Mannheim being in my youth group until he
showed me this photo. I'm like, I remember him, I
remember you being him.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
It was so weird.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
It was Jeff, I meant, the one that had the
soul patch and it was kind of like a bigger guy.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, he's actually a guy my size.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
But he's the.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Guy I talk about a lot because he pays for
skate parks to be built in reservation towns.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Very cool.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, he's just the most humanitarian person I know, because
he want anyone to know he's even doing these things.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
He's just the best.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
But he's always been a skateboarder, and I remember him.
I wonder how often that happens, where it's like you
have a memory of a person little do you know
right now they are Henry.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Cavill or something.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
You know what I'm saying, Well, for sure, I mean
that's what that's watching like stand up on TV. I
was a fan of all these female comics that, like
you wouldn't have otherwise, not like the first time I
saw Penthusiasma, I'm like, that is the funniest person I've
ever seen.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Her jokes were so fucking hysterical.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Oh I need to watch her stand up I've never
seen it.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
She used to do this thing about her ex boyfriend
now going out with a girl that was like.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Twenty years younger than them, and.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
So then she was like high, nice to meet you,
you know.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Like trying to make small talk under that.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I kind of remember the funniest.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Bit of her just basically being like, this is who
my boyfriend's dating now or husband, And it was.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
On the A list or the evening at the improvis.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Which I whip ran all the time.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
I've seen them then, because I used to record that
on VHS's and watch them like one hundred and twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I like, this is my thing.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Let me set the VCR. Let me get my dad
to figure out how to set the VCR. Yeah, and
I have a library of those. Like when I saw
Bob Odenkirk riffing a Abraham Lincoln thing and then later
became a fan of mister Show, I didn't connect that
it was that guy.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Did you ever see Bob's the stand up set where
he it's so kooky and crazy compared to who I
know him to be, or like later knew him to be,
Like his stand up was so kind of like what's
the good word for it. It was like crazy. But he
does this thing where he goes, there's this one song
I love. I'm sure you guys know it, and then

(11:59):
he plays this song that is like balllywood like Indian
deep Indian, and he you just.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Have to see him do it is no no, was
he singing it or did he actually pat them playing?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
He starts to.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Sing along and then he starts kind of doing one
of those dances like that, you know, that's like a
part of it. It just like is as if you're
suddenly watching the end of a Bollywood movie and everyone's
dancing together, but it's just Bob on stage, like I
love this song and it was just like so different
and hilarious because it was nineteen ninety four yeah, or

(12:35):
you know, two or whatever.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
And I've seen a version of that a million times
where I'm like, I've had a song stuck in my head.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Have you ever heard this one? And you know it's
some obscure crazy sound.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, yeah, I've seen that joke before, and I bet
he's the first one to do it. And I remember
he'd come to UCB and and just have like a
box of ritz crackers and he's like, I don't know
it's going to do something this box of crackers, And
it was a fully pashed out sales pitch for crackers
that I knew wasn't rehearsed and didn't have a lot

(13:11):
of thought put into it. No, but he just would commit.
And nothing scares me more nowadays than.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I improvise, but I don't commit.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Well, but that was the time, like he I watched
him do that at the on Cabarele the time, and
he was so good at it.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Because then he never I don't know if he.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Ever can riff and sound unfinished because he is such
a writer mind right right that he's never gonna like
kind of he's not going to be conversational and not
button it with an amazing Joe.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
He's right right going to.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Get out, get in and get out and also think
of fifteen things in the meantime.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Like he just he's just the best.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I just think it's funny that he was more known
for sketch when his stand up was definitely like right
noteworthy exactly.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
He made a bigger as big as Mister Show was
for everyone. He made a bigger impact with me doing
stand up because everyone back then was doing the I know,
I look like this guy and this guy had a baby,
you know, like I look like jokes or my wife jokes,
or just middle of the road airplane jokes. And then

(14:23):
he would go up and read a bunch of bazooka.
He do the thing where he would read these Bazuka
Joe comics and but just describe the illustration. But he'd
also put that piece of gum in his mouth. So
around the tenth or eleventh or twelfth joke, he just
had a giant mouthful of gum and he's still trying

(14:44):
to describe the illustrations.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
And it was on a mainstream you know.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Mario Joyner hosting like Oh Jess was like alternate the
beginning of all stand up comedy, right, a thing that
isn't a phrase anymore. No, just saying alternative stand up
comedy makes me the oldest man, the oldest man in
this car.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
But it is interesting that those types of comics were
the ones that went to alt comedy because it was like,
nobody wants to hear those same old setups and punchlines anymore.
Like you spend enough time doing stand up and the
hackey stand up becomes such a bummer when you're trying

(15:32):
to think of like new and original things.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
So it's like.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
That that idea that was like club comedy or alt comedy, right,
And that's the most generalized way to talk about it,
because there's amazing club comics obviously, but on average.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
And they got better and better and everyone's getting more creative,
and that's what got rid of this alternative comedy thing.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Now everyone's kind of alternative.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
A generation later, and I mean truly, like the Meltdown
Crew basically erased that idea because they started doing traditional
setups in a more interesting way and doing weird stuff,
but they always had hard jokes and tags. Right, they
were like, we're going to do what you were doing,

(16:18):
but actually for a club to entertain people, yeah, and
not entertaining each other, which is what we were.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Doing, right, was exactly playing in the back room trying
and make other comics laugh. And now my goal is
what is the most relatable thing I think of them
all the time, something that you can talk about that
everyone is going to be like, oh my.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
God, I've thought of that before, yeap. That has been
my goal.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
And when you think of a joke like that, where oh, everyone,
even if I approach it subtly, is going to know
what I'm talking about. It's going to relate to everyone,
even if I'm in wherever, the middle of Alabama or something.
That's my goal now is to come up with the
most mainstream and still be weird and still be me.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
But it's hard. Yeah, you gotta give credit to.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Those people, the mainstream comics, because it's harder than I thought.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
It's very hard.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I literally just started thinking of a time I got
huggled and fell into a shame spiral.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Just now, oh, just now, the trauma surfaced.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
There was like it was at Cobbs and there was
just a dude and I said something about it was
like because I was doing jokes about having recently lost
weight and then but I was trying to do the
setup and then this guy who was just a little asshole.
Of course he was blonde, Yes, he was blonde. Of
course he was blonde and small and but like kind

(17:48):
of workout e guy.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
And as I'm getting to like, the only reason I'm
saying this part is because of this line that's gonna
be perfectly delivered it in this timing, he goes to
turn around what like you wanted to see my ass,
you wanted to see like how my body looked. And
then I just was like so furious and so kind
of like taken aback, And he said it perfectly. He

(18:11):
was just far enough away from the stage where like
other people could hear it. It was like this perfect insulting,
shitty heckle where then I was just like I just
started insulting him, but it was like all poorly handled,
just like that kind of thing where that was club comedy.
Back then, people stood up and they were racist and
sexist and shitty and fucking homophobic and every other thing

(18:34):
that they could be, and then you, as the one
girl on the show, had to go up and be like,
hopefully they'll like my ideas now, and of course they'll
be like little blonde guys in the audience that are.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Like, this will be my chance? Yeah, oh me so mad.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
As bad as things are currently politically and the way
bad people are have a voice, suddenly we need to
remember how it was even worse in a lot of ways,
because nowadays, if someone did that, the entire crowd would
be like, no, you can't do that.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Exactly. Yeah, back then it was like, oh, he won.
Oh he got a joke in there too.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Yes, there was always this idea that Heckler's would win,
even though you're the one amplified.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
And then what is the prize?

Speaker 4 (19:23):
You get to go to the big Heckler Awards a
Comedy Central.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
And also you just are the kind of person that
you think that makes you funny because you interrupt and
kind of fuck with the funny person.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, I think it went away because I don't think
comedy Claire are the venues I'm doing now go on
morning radio and give away fifty tickets anymore.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, that would be like and I do think you're right,
like it used to be as bad as it is now,
cloaked in like he'd be cool, don't be so sensitive?
Where can you take a joke? And it's like, well
you okay, let me think of something really insulting to
say about your small body, asshole, and then you know

(20:06):
something like that. Yeah, well it's like but that, of
course you could never do that back to men because
then they might punch everybody or you know, try to
kill somebody. But or you were just like a bitch
and everyone would love to be like, yeah, you're a bitch,
not him.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, I'm afraid that is still the double standard with
with women doing comedy. They're like, if I did a
thing and lashed out, which I have, I've thrown drinks.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
On tables, I've plastic cups, not glass. I didn't. It's
when people were being lunatic. Yes, I'm like, oh, do
you want me to be a lunatic?

Speaker 4 (20:43):
But that's me throwing a tant frum in a way
that is almost rewarded to men. Yes, if I was
a woman and did that, they'd be I've gone to
be like, oh, what a crazy bitch?

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Oh my god, what's wrong with her?

Speaker 4 (20:57):
And I've been realizing that lately as I've become and
I think you'll agree.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
These zen calm yes, voice of reason and.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
The ultimate feminist. Really, if we really.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Think it really the only reason I'm bringing this up
so we can drive that home.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Let's really make sure that people understand. Yeah, and Chris
always has been I mean.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
I didn't know, I didn't know. It just came naturally
to me.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
But now that I recognize it, I'm gonna mention it
often is that Okay?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
That absolutely? What if we have it be like a
segment on.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Each episode Chris's feminist ideas.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Of the day. It's every day.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah, you should definitely keep driving and.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Slowly, yeah, fool Yeah, and you should definitely Well, you
know what, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
The cop thought that's one through.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
No, he didn't.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
You can't just say I want to go, so don't
be here anymore.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's funny because that ultimate could be doing something and
it just isn't.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah that job, buddy.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah, well, now they're going to chase you. That was
an impatient. You know, it's so hard to get police
to show up. In my experience, when you've had an
auto wreck, you talked about your house.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Is being broken multiple times.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
But on my street right now, they're shooting some it.
I got a post about it. It's an independent film, a.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Student film, and there's eight cops.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
They're all hanging out under umbrellas summer stopping by.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Here's your coffee. There's seven or eight there because a
student film.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Is shooting college student.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
So if you ever my advice used to be, like,
just tell them you're injured now, because then they'll send
an ambulance. Just say help, can you come to this
location of this wreck. I've decided to shoot a student
film seven or eight cops will come.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, they'll come with coffee.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
I mean they are there for the craft service and
the kind of like I don't.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Know, I know that it it is like something that
a production does. They pay for security there and I
don't know why that security is Los Angeles police officers.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Well, because it's all they're paying each other. It's just
like we will actually make sure that all of this stays,
you know, legit, and that you'll have it's just been paying.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
For yeah, security.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
I guess, yeah, it's it's uh, they're right outside my
at the bottom of my stairs right now. I handed
my headshots to one of them. Can you just forward days.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
To your friend the producer.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
It's a headshot I have. It's four pictures on one page.
Me holding a tennis racket. Yeah, me as kind of
a spy okay, a pixelated.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Nude, and then then ice cream cone, yeah, just.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Ice cream tone, and then me to the side, a
profile floating behind me with a melted ice cream coat.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Oh yeah, because you can do comedy and tragedy.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yeah, So probably get a call, Probably.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Get a call that you dropped that off before you
started came over for this podcast.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yep, yep, So casting should be sending a message I
have my phone on vibrate. We might announce it during
the episode.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I of course, did not do any of that.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I think those beautiful lights.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Do you remember that David Letterman thing where he went
to just bulbs, just lamps, and just shades all in
one segment. No, because there's stores in New York. There
used to be stores in Manhattan. Also, he started out
with just lamps because he needed to go get one,
and then he went in and then it was like,
oh no.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
He went to just bulbs and.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Then asked do you have any lamps or shades and
they're like no, they.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Send them to just lamps and just shades. It's one
of the funniest things.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
That's funny because when I was always trying to think
of different YouTube videos I could do, knowing I would
never go into a store nothing makes me more nervous.
But I they have so much at just breaks. They
don't just do breaks. You can get your transmission done
at just breaks. So just asking them why it's called

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just breaks when they have all those other things.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Also, the idea isn't that good?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I think I'm realizing, right, well, it's just it's been done.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
It has been done. But at the time, early.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
YouTube, yes, it would have been new for them. Yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Around the time I saw Fred Armis and go in
and take a dance class, I was like, Okay, this
is he's being funny but being kind in a situation
and committing to going through.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
With the thing, breaking breaking, brand new, trailblazing for the
time where it was like, Oh, you're not going to
go in and mock and victimize everybody. You're going to
go in and like make it all feel fun Like.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I like that so much more.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
I think good day seems more enjoyable.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah. I do not like the making people feel uncomfortable.
I never have.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
It's harder to do comedy when that's the vibe.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yeah, yeah, I just can't handle it. But that's another
example though, speaking of you know, I'm watching that, I'm like,
who's this guy?

Speaker 2 (26:20):
This is funny? Oh he ended up on SNL all
that whole time.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
I didn't know he was a drummer of Less Savvy
fab a group I love.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
It's insane to me.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yeah, his past.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Life, I know, he really uh you know, they say,
all musicians want to be stand ups, and all stand
ups want to be musicians, but Fred actually is both
and it excels at both.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, it's so cool.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, now, Bob A wouldn't Kirk, on the other hand,
not a great guitar player.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Oh really, no, just kidding.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
It is a thing, though, because every time I've done
Bring the Rock. Granted, I think Greg Barren was asking
musicians that he knew were funny and could tell a
good story. But I couldn't believe how funny Tom Morello
from Rage Against the Machine was when I was telling
a story, he had jokes. Yeah, it was as if

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he'd done stand up before. And on that same show,
Bilbert played drums and he was People were like freaking
out because he was such an adept drug like someone
that has drummed his whole life. Yeah, and he did
announce like, don't freak out, I've drum all the time.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
I'm pretty good. And I was like, oh yeah, let's see.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
And he put in ear plugs. It's like if you
get in a fight and someone puts in a mouthpiece.
But my buddy Kevin did that once. Guys wanted to
fight us and he put in his boxing mouthpiece, and
the guy was like, oh, I think I fucked up.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I think I forgive you.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, if you put in drums and you put in
these earpieces that you have, which.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I don't know what that's. Oh, it's so you can
hear what you're doing, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
But then everyone knew it was a real deal. Yeah,
and he was really good.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
It was fun. That's a show that embraces.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
That whole notion, like comedians want to be rock stars,
rock stars want to be comedians.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Do you own an umbrella?

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Me, Karen Phil Garrett.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, yes, I have a navy blue one with little
yellow daisies on it. And I can't remember where about
it or why I picked it, or if maybe someone
left it in my car, and then I'm like, this
is mine now.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah, I need to get I have one for golf
that's big. It's more of a s umbrella.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, those things are huge.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
I just walk around wet and I'm like, well, I
should get a gore tex jacket. I never think I
should get an umbrella, because there's something about holding an
umbrella that is just admitting to the rest of the
world that you can't handle life.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
You're weak.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yes, it feels weak to me.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Granted, the umbrella I did last half was a sex
in the City umbrella, and where'd you get it?

Speaker 2 (29:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
It just had an HBO logo on it, and I'm like, oh, cool,
my HBO umbrella. People think I work on set again.
I had my headshots on me.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, and then twirling it one day in the park
as I splashed in a puddle, a moment I'm not
proud of.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I saw the Sex in the City, her Sex and
the City.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
And it's in and go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I oh, he feels bad.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Sex and the City. What a discovery.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah, I actually missed that umbrella. That's why I haven't
replaced it.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I bet you someone absolutely stole it who was a
true fan of that show.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Right, which is what a miranda for them to do.
Never seen an episode. My sister and mom we went
to this beach near Malibu where you can actually sit
in the sand. It's hard to park there, but you
can actually have a beer and sit on the sand.
And it is is privately owned like a beach club,

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but open to public.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
So it's a confusing setup, or at least when I
describe it.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
And they were freaking out because the guy, Oh, his
name's Christopher Knoth. He played someone called mister Big, And
my sister and mom were freaking out and it was
just a dad looking guy with a shirt off. I'm
like that guy, like I don't. I've never even seen
him before. It was before Law and Order or whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
He's yet.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yeah, and everyone was freaking out and saying, mister Big.
I could hear hush tones of mister Big being said,
and of course he could hear it too, Yeah, of course,
but he was just trying to have a day with
his family and some friends.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
You pay the price, front, pay the price.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
That's why I only plan to get famous through voiceover.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Good idea.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Oh, you're right. That is a beautiful lamp store. God,
something about a lamp store. I've always loved lighting.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Took it took me a while to enjoy fabric stores now. Oh,
I love a Joe Anne's.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Are you kidding me? I'll go in and feel a corduroy,
and I like craft, I like sewing. I'm into all
of it now.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yes you are.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
When you're a kid, though, and your mom brings you there,
you just hide. Yeah. In the I mean, I'm a child.
But you hide in the fabric and see if your
mom will ever find you. And she won't.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
No, no, she'll have your name announced, only only to
then leave.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
She wants you to see her leave.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Will you grab will you just reach my person grab
my phone for me?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Really quick?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I just realized words. I just want to make sure
that she's fine leaving.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, of course I am gonna. Oh I
found it.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Thank you your stylist.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Where are you're going? Where are you're going?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
For the my friend? I am going to the iHeartRadio Awards. Okay, good,
the iHeart Radio Awards to present. We're presenting and I
we may be nominated, but I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
If that it's.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Better you should write a speech anyway, okay, okay, but yeah,
but we went last year and I just happened to
have this vintage dress that was sparkly and nice and whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
But I was like, you you miss this by the.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Skin of your deep.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
So this year, when I was getting ready, I was like, oh,
I better get a dress. And as I was telling
her and Annalise, I was just ordering dresses and clothes
on TikTok shop and being like I'll just get this done.
And then finally went, I need these clothes anyway, right,
And there's a couple of things we have to do
that are like either business or a thing like that,
where it's like, oh, yeah, I have to I need

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these clothes.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
I have to get some nice clothes.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
I'm amazed that you're able to do that, because I'm
I need to try something. I won't even order a
T shirt because I'm not sure if it'll run too
big or too small online.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I think it is the practice of a lifelong fact
girl where it's like you just guess because you don't
want to try clothes on and you don't ever want
to be in a dressing room anywhere, and you just
kind of were like, this will fit me, this will not.
That's all we need to know. Talk to you on
the other side. So I'm just kind of used to it.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Well, I think that it's good to have a professional
for a thing like this that actually is like like
you said, she was doing, kind of almost shoving you
out of your comfort zone with bright floral designs.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yes, because she's actually my friend. Yeah, she's like Karen,
I know you won't like this color, but tried on anyway,
and then she had a seamstress there also to just
fix everything. If that's the key is get everything, get
everything hemmed exactly to your right.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Right.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
In her defense, though you're the yes as you had
stacked did appear to be all black Wednesday Adams.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Truly, she was like, I didn't come here to help you,
to just help you dress the way you're already dressing.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
I'm like, right, I know, but you also she.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Bought me the coolest cut of this jacket. Like the
jacket itself was the coolest piece. It looked like it
was from nineteen sixty. It was so awesome, but it
was hives orange. Oh and like just never no, like
there's I'm not stylish like that. I also hate that color.
I don't want to look like a crossing guard, right,

(34:34):
Like there's problems. And I think when you're like comedy
mindset where you're all I can think of is the jokes.
It would be easy to make if you saw me.
And of course every Warren's dress is a safety come.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Even if they like it, they would be like they
would have to, yeah, it would they would make some
crossing guard.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
And also, I honestly didn't think it looked at me,
but her and the seamstress were like.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Oh where, I'm like, no, no, no, no, I agree.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
That long robelike hooded thing that looked like Queen Almandala
loungewear was so cool totally not.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Just not mean style, yeah or mine, but I can
tell when something is well made and neat, So I
was like, ooh, yeah, try it on. Why am I
saying that?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah? Well?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
And also it is like we all did that, but
then she knows, so she's like, oh, this one, I
just she's like some of them. She's like, I just
want you to try it and see what you could
be doing, yeah, which is true.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Also it just I mean, it was a it was
a long afternoon because I was like, I just want
you to understand, like it's you're not going to be
able to convince me to wear these what looked like
new buck leather pants. I was like, there's just no
world where I'm going to go to an enjoyable evening
and have that on. I will be I will be

(35:57):
suffering the entire time that is not comfortable or fun
to me at all.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
How many, I mean, how many outfits do you need
to have. Is it multiple days? Is there a lunch
for that?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, we have a couple dinners. And so it's like
I need four nice outfits, okay, But then also I
realized everything else I have are like jeans I buy
at Marshals because they're they're ones that just arrived there,
you know what I mean, Like I just don't make
an effort.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
It's not how I like to spend my free time
right right.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
And I don't know like she bought you saw those
shoes that she brought me that like, I love them.
There were so many good ones where I was like,
these aren't at any of the stores I would go to.
I would never find these on my own. So she
did that for me for like two dresses, and it's
really nice. But then also there's other stuff upcoming. So
I'm like, well, I just need you to start helping

(36:51):
me with this.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
That's cool. That's kind of exciting, like very exciting.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
It's like a younger version of you from whatever twenty
years ago, would think it was pretty cool that someone's
coming over and it's.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Like a Stylus situation. Totally, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
It's I feel, it's very exciting. Yeah, but also it's
very like, I don't know, it's weird to be so
late in life switching positions from behind the camera to
in front of the camera.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
It's just odd.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
So just trying to like go with it and not
ruin my own good time and whatever. But it's like
some of the things that's like I wouldn't focus on
it just because I'm like, oh, yeah, I don't enjoy
I don't think I enjoy fashion, And then she brings
stuff over.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
I'm like, look at that.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
You know so well, you've enjoyed me in front of
the camera in the path, You've been there.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
I've been there, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
It's like I think there's that entire awful pressure being
in front of the camera for women is is horrible anyway.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
But then I've never gotten like.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
A facelift or any of that they is that when
you are thirty five in Hollywood you start getting a
face lift.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
You don't.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
It's not botox, it's not those The reason those people
are so beautiful is because there's a surgeon sculpting their face.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Wow, like sculpting their face.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
So like there's you're being compared to people who like
have been under the knife.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Right, since it's a faceli, there's no longer staples around
your ears and you have to go to an island
for three weeks.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
It's just there's all kinds of Like when I got
my eyelids done, I did that.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
That was an in office procedure. I went. I went
home with like stitches in my eyelids.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
But it's so common your eyes, your eyes bloody.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
No, but at one point there a bloody tear did.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Roll down my cheek and I Adrian was the one
helping me and taking care of me, and I walked
over to her and I'm.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Like, look at this.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I mean, if a bloody tear came out of my eye,
I would expect locusts.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
I know that is.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
From the seventh Sign. They Demi Moore vehicle.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
The sacrifices that Demi Moore and all women have made
for just to hang out in the beauty concept. Yeah,
you know, it's really something. Yeah, but I think like
all of those things aside.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Look look what they have on.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
The car there. It is I bought this before we knew,
you know, and it's great.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
For some reason, I didn't want to get you that
one because his name being on it, I thought someone
from Calabasis.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Or I don't know would lash out, Yes.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's subtle enough to the one I got.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
You said, bought it before we knew he was crazy,
which I love. Yeah, then you're not, you know, saying
the name, and it's subtle enough that they won't even know, right, Like,
if someone doesn't think he's crazy, they'll be like, what
what's that?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Even they bought that bumper sticker before they knew the
sticker maker was crazy.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
I just did shows in Boise, Idaho, which is a
it is a cool town.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
There's always been art scenes, there's a lot.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
Of like LGBTQ Pride flags year round. There's it is
a cool town with a lot of cool young people.
But on the outskirts these people come in at at
night And as I was leaving my show, I saw
a lot of like Charger Challenger hot rod cars with
a full on American flag and a Trump flag on

(40:31):
the back, just to drive around to preach the good word.
And you're seeing that as it's just a I don't know,
a ticking time bomb. It's made me so nervous to
see all that happening at once, well.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
But I think that what's weird about that is like
he won go home and put your flag away, but
they're not. It's like, you don't need to preach the
good word. We're already in this mess. He's there, like
what do you want?

Speaker 4 (40:59):
But it's like he had nothing else to do. He's
just going to play fucking video games or something.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, I'm just saying it's it's just that thing of like. Well,
and also Boise, I mean, Idaho has so much KK
cane fucking.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
In the panhandleis Yeah, there was a Hayden Lake.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
I think is where they all were based for a
long time.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
And oh yeah, my friend's family had this little timeshare
cabin we would go to. And in retrospect now I realized,
sure there was a cub scout.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Camp and some other things, but there were skin heads everywhere.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
I just thought that the Panhandle of Idaho had a
balding problem. We were surrounded by them, and I'm just
like waterskiing and like.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Well that guy seems grumpy, so does that guy.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Yeah, they're all so angry.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Yeah, but that yeah, Boise, I think is pretty proud
to not be like that.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Well, because They're a college town, right, and I'm sure
the cap.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
I defy anyone to find a It seems to me
maybe I'm being naive, but most capital cities in all
the states, yeah, seem to be the more liberal part
of that state. Yes, which is weird because the wrong
decisions are being made there, well, you know, in a
lot of cases. But but yeah, like Madison is very

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much that way.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
So many alarms.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
No that that was just a siren that was bailing
me out of coming up with a second example after Madison.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
I mean Madison is that way.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Of course, Sacramento is very much bad example.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Actually, oh, look a fire. We should help.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Let's drive that fire.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
I always get bailed out when i'm starting to make
a list.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
My ass ass can't cash, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah, your ass can't cast.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Right, I'm making it. I'm making a long list. My
ash cap can't cast.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I mean, I took not one, but two allergy pills,
so I didn't and they're kicking in now.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
You sound great.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Yeah, I'm breathing good, listen to the nostrils. I was
a wreck before I arrived, but these pills make me
feel a little drunk.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, And so I think that's great for podcasting.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Yeah, ask cap, can't cash cast. Yeah, things like that
will come out of my mouth.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Well they do the otherwise, and I'm not saying that.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
No, I'm not trying to none taken. None.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Sorry, I thought you just said no offense, There is
none taken.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
If you were going to say that that was Julie
mcchol's joke, or you would go, hey, no offense, none taken,
he would say both lines.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Oh, you'd have signed both to you.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
He would tell you that he didn't mean it and
you aren't taking it.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Oh that's it.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, just cut out the middleman. Yeah,
which is the other person thinking their part? Yeah, yeah,
it's I feel I feel good. I feel good, but
I'm a little silly. I feel a little silly.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
It's all we need on a comedy podcast, right, don't
you think I do?

Speaker 4 (44:21):
But I've noticed with my comedy, enunciation is a big
communication is a big part of comedy.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
And I watch clips of my old stand up, sure,
and a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
I was drunk, but I mean, I can't believe how
often I'm not even finishing a sentence or a thought.
Oh it's just panicked chaos, and I'm like, oh my god,
no offense to the late great Robin Williams. But am
I Robin Williams when I do stand up like a
panicked No, you never seen panicked?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Okay, you don't even when you're drunk, right or when
you have this in the past.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Thank you two years now.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
That's a huge accomplishment. Oh it is.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
When you just said something about like you'd get a
beer and blah blah blah, and I was like.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
Not you though, No, No, it's even in moments where
I think I'll be tempted, I'm like, oh no, I
absolutely not. It would It would take the announcing of
the inevitable world or civil war or something coming that
where I'm like, you know what, I'll have some whiskey.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Time to leave the planet.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Just takeing whiskey and get in a hot air balloon.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Bye bye, bye bye. You're going to freeze in the
outer statusphere.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah I won't.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
I won't even reach a point where oxygen isn't available,
But goodbye world bye. Just slowly deflate into a circle
of enemy soldiers.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Hey, this is awkward. You guys like ballooning guys?

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Are you drunk.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'd like to think that if that happened, I could
befriend them.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
Think so yeah, just by self deprecating, like, ah, look
at me in a balloon and you know, cross my
eyes fall down, they'll start laughing.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
I think I'd do well in prison, for sure.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I think in the balloon you would definitely be able
to do that bit where you're talking or whatever and
then you fall over the side of the basket but
your foot is tied up in the rope, so you're
hanging upside down by one.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
That is my favorite hot air bit, Such a good
balloon bit.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Because if you tie it good enough, it doesn't matter
that you're upside down, hanging from one leg thousands of
feet above.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Ground, screaming, screaming, but no air reaching your lungs.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
That is actually horrifying when a balloon takes off an
unmanned basket and that fire is shooting up yeap, creating
the hot air lift, and there's.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Just a guy no, oh, yeah, help help, And it's like, well,
who do we send?

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Why does he pronounce help like that?

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Heyl hey help?

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yeah? But why are you saying it so weird?

Speaker 3 (47:11):
I'm much side down?

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, But that wouldn't affect the way you pronounce words.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I'm from Idaho.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Oh say no more?

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Help let him go.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
He's probably from Hayden. I think I've seen multiple videos of.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
That happening though, people falling out of the basket. Oh,
Margaret Show was in a hot air balloon crash. I
feel like Kurt Roneller has a hilarious bit about trying
to I think he was going to propose to his
wife Lauren, and it was so crazy in the basket.
It was like, this is It's like because they can't
really control it. It's all just kind of like they're

(47:49):
trying to control it, right, Yeah, but they're not really
controlling it.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
It is true a lot of those things that seem
commonplace and you think it's one goal, and you know
everything is measured and they've weighed you. The time I
went bungee jumping on a whim because it was free,
but the card from this business was like Vertigo bungee

(48:16):
Jumpers as seen on MTV and all these credits and
I show up it's in Truckee.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
It was a night after staying up all night and
maybe doing drugs. Maybe, but I was young and I
was like, I'm a thrill seeker, I like jumping on
a snowboard or whatever. No I'm not. I'm terrified of heights.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
I showed up to this train trestle where on one
end there was a guy looking through a scope down
the tracks and another guy on the other end looking
down this tunnel through a mountain, both looking for a train,
at which point we were told.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Everyone would have to run and hide under.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
The bridge and they'd have to gather the ropes and everything,
and I'm like, wait a minute, is this not legal.
It's like, oh no, no, it's but you have business cards,
there's people paid money.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
And then they said how much do you weigh?

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Do you want to dip in the water because there
was a river at the bottom, or do you want
to just dangle above it? And I felt too much pressure.
I'm like, well I got a dip, right, And they're
like what do you weigh? And I'm like one fifty
five and they're.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Like are you sure? And I'm like, well now I'm not.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
So they picked this guy weighs one fifty five rope
and everyone was just diving off and I was My
legs were trembling, so much that I couldn't get up
onto the handrail.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
That being said, I look, once I did jump, I had.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Perfect form and I curled up and did backflips all
the way up, and I knew to lay back and
achrist like post slowly they pulled you up awkwardly.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
In your limb body. Yeah, yeah, I knew, I knew
I did do Jesus.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Chrest now sorry, quick question? Is it perfect form to
have a belly of fear as you jump?

Speaker 4 (50:11):
I thought that maybe there's nothing that feels more like
you're committing suicide because you can see the ground.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Because you're jumping off a bridge into a river.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
My head exactly dipped in the water. Oh that's good,
boring splash all the way up. It was like four
hundred feet. Usually you're doing like two hundred. I think
it was so scary, and you're supposed to get two jumps,
and it was exhilarating in a way, but not the
kind that I need. Right And they're like, okay, your

(50:43):
second jump is coming up, and I'm like, oh no,
I get it. I felt like dying, dying duly noted
and people jumped over and over and I was like,
I did not know this. I was putting my hands,
my life in the hands of these strange and it
was a train did come by the way, and we

(51:04):
did all grab the stuff and have to hide, and
then we came back up and hooked it up. And
then at the end they had an uzzy and they
let us shoot an uzzy against a wall.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
What uh uh?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
And this was all in Hanford Lake where you were
becoming a skin hut.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
No, no, sorry, this was a Lake Tahoe. This was
years later. I was in my twenties doing artwork for
some snowboard And you.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Truly are arguing that because they had a business card,
none of that should have been happened.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
They had just aired this Real Real World of road
Rules episode. I was familiar with their work.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Do you remember, but do you remember when? Do you
remember Steve O and Chris The Wild Boys? I loved
that shows. That show got me through serious hard times.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Yeah, it was good because so funny. Well, Chris Pontius
is a sweet pau.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
I love Chris Ponie.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
He was at all the jackass things I've gone to.
Is a lot of them are very nice. Yes, they
were all actually pretty nice boys.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Yes, limping they didn't have to be nice at all.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
The idea that Chris Pontius is nice really means a
lot to me, because he's the one that has the
vibe to me of like he seems nice, but then
you then he would be means in a surprising way
and you'd be double heartbroken. Right.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
But I will say this, there was.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
An episode with Steve jump Off, jump off of like this.
It sounds like a very similar really high bridge crazy.
I think they're in South America somewhere. If we want
to in and out? Would anybody else eat in and out?

Speaker 4 (52:41):
I have a dinner plant or I bought stuff, but okay,
I would get something because I'm very thirsty.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I'm hungry and thirsty on the lease, are you into it?

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Let's let's take the death defying risk of trying to
turn in.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Hey, that's what I am.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
There's all about.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Uh Stevo was so scared on this thing. Oh shit,
that's the line. God damn it, right, you have to
go around. He was so scared on this bridge, and
he was like almost crying and like so mad at
them and like swearing at them, and so it was
high so funny because yeah, it is like it goes

(53:26):
against everything, and you boys really pressure each other to
like do scary things and be okay with it, where
it's just like and it's Steve. Oh. So I'm sure
he was like he's supposed to do it all. I mean,
that's right, you know, he's supposed to love it.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
And he was like, God damn it. He was like swearing.
It was so funny.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Right, Well, he is a trained he went to clown school.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
He went to circt it so late. I think he
is a trained clown. He did it for years, Yeah,
juggling all that. He's like a circus performer.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
That's what he got into.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
So I'm surprised because in skate videos before Jackass existed,
there was just a crazy guy in between skate footage
that was backflipping off of hotels, in the swimming pools.
It was usually jumping off bridges that I wouldn't go
stand on. So I'm surprised him.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Yeah, yeah, it was Stevo doing.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Stevo was Yeah, he was. He was in all these
Big Brother magazine It may have been.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Well, but if he jumped off a hotel roof or something,
that was like, but he was attached to something.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Maybe this was like a free fall, you know something.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
There's a big difference between jumping off a forty foot
tall thing and it being four hundred feet Like I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
It just was terrifying, Like would you say that the
difference is like three hundred and sixty feet?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah, yeah, it is not only that to get into
the math, not only that math.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
It's drilled down into numbers.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
It's still okay't wrap my mind around. But the difference is,
oh maybe broken leg, Oh definitely.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Die, absolutely death. You are facing right right, Yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
I did.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
There was some Have you ever gone on the ride?
Please move up VW because my ass is hanging out.
Thank you, and you were there too.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Was conscious of that.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
I know me too.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I always what about the person behind me? Right, we're
compassionate people. I just want to take another.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Break at our emotional depth and caring of our fellow
human being. There's a ride at notts Erry Farm that
you go and sit in and it's like seats in
a circle around a gigantic wide pole and so you

(55:52):
sit down and you lock in on the top. But
then you're kind of on this weird little saddle on
the bottom and you have these seatbelts. Know, I've told
you about this. This is definitely one of my repeat stories.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
And we went on a week.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
I think I've told that bungee jump thing. I'm terrified
that I have.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Why terrified?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Why the only people listening to this are like, yeah,
tell the fucking scorpion in the boot story. By the way,
no joke. We were at work the other day and
Brent Butler, who is our new like creative.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
EP guy, he does all the video stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Yeah, he started telling a story about how scared he
is that he's gonna put on his boot and there's
a scorpion inside.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
And I was like, you have to talk to Chris Therapy.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Oh my god, you're hidding.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Yes, he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
It happened to him once and he's like, my whole
leg went numb and it was the biggest, the most
pain I've ever felt, so much pain.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Yeah, oh wow, yeah, Oh that's the reason to have a.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Mate and grate, right, this is this is why you
will immediately everyone's fear.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
I've always been thankful I don't live in a place
with giant spiders and scorpions.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Yes, you know, we've got we have rattlers.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
But anyway, point being, you sit down in this thing
and you're like on a little saddle on the bottom.
It feels like it's saddle because it's kind of coming
between your legs and it's coming up, and then there's
this crisscross across you seat belt thing and then it
essentially goes all right, and it jacks you up into

(57:17):
the air and you were probably I think fifty stories high.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Does then it spread open as you drop it.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
I don't know what it does, but you and your seat,
you're like, eh, the higher you're getting, you're freaking out
and screaming right, and then it stops and then it
you slam forward and it free fall drops you to
the ground.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
But you are completely in this little.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Well.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
You watch everybody else in line, and so you kind
of do.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
But when it does that, it just goes click and
then it falls and then it just goes and stops
you right before you get to the ground. Let it
slows it down. And it was we're in line. I
didn't care. I was like, I don't care, this will
be fine. The closer we got to the front, I
started panicking. I was like, I do not want to
do this, this is so scary. And then whoever I
was with, I think it was Danny Sebios, who are

(58:08):
it was a group of people, but people are like
I was like, I don't this seems like I might
go to the bathroom and someone's like, are you scared
and started making fun of me.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
So of course then I had to stay in line.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah yeah, and then yeah, don't ever, if you're a stranger,
don't call Karen Chicken. Don't you she flies out the handle.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
I'll take any differ.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
But then once we did it, the feeling like the
screaming and the elation and the free falling and the
whole thing, we walked away.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
I felt high for hours. I was like on top
of the world.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
I'm like, oh, this is that like to me it
was a near death experience, and there were obviously nothing
near death about it, like in the way that.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
You got for your brain it was, and so it
off that that, hey, I'm not scared to die. Last
minute stuff. Yes, And it made me get technical.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
I mean, clearly you're a psychol.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yes, yeah, but it made me go every once in
a while, I'm like, do I need to go just
do that reset and ride that ride just to purely
have that like, oh, like I just faced down.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, no, you just start taking drugs. They've learned how
to man make that stuff.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Is that what ketamine is?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Yeah? Or EPMD? No, that's an old wrap group em EMTs.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
What was EPMD's song?

Speaker 2 (59:27):
EPMD was really good and I should know that.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
I'm sorry, we can cut this part out.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
No, but yeah, EDM, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
That's a type of meals electric dance music.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
You know what that is?

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Where you can go to get ketamine and that'll do
the job. Oh great, Yeah, so that last minute I'm
about to die release again, I hate to get technical.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Is basically what that drug is MDM A MDA MDMA.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Mdmay there we go, Okay, that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Is what that drug is mimicking Apparently I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Not interested in that in the out of context way
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
What if you're holding a glove stick and it's the
only way you'll enjoy that she hady music playing and
you bite into.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
The glows stick and you're like, I definitely am going
to die now. You went on Supreme scream yes, yes,
and it is supreme.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I went on that with Believe It or Not. Michelle
balloon and Martha Kelly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Yes, did they scream and scream?

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Oh, we were terrified, And then we couldn't stop talking
about how fun it was.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
It was like it it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Oh, she's cute, that kid. She's very excited.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
She gets a cone. Why is he? What's that about?

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
I think he moved that because he decided to park
got it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
She was like, yeah, yeah, she's very excited, freaking out
to just get to walk in the rain.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah. Yeah, boy. If we could just be children again,
for the enjoyment of small things.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
I mean, you were enjoying the rain earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Yeah, I am, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I've been enjoying.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
I think it's my version of a midlife crisis. I've
been allergies. I'd get allergies like I did when I
was a kid. I've been skateboarding very much often and
enjoying it. And I'm getting better in a way that
fifteen year old me if he saw footage of some

(01:01:31):
of the tricks I'm doing that he couldn't do, even
though he could do a lot of things I can't
do anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Yeah, like use one hip, right, I think that right?

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
No, it is, it's that it's jumping in stuff that
I couldn't do, and so fifteen year old me wo'd
be like, what's up with not being able to get
his high off the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
But some of the other stuff he'd be like, oh
my god, fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Year old me, you nailed a triple loox? What are
they called? What are you nailingly? That would make people excited?

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Well, that's the thing I've been saving all the flip
tricks for, because we've gotten single shots of flip tricks
that I don't want as one shot. I have to
do a line of tricks, so I have to get
consistent enough with them so I can do seven or
eight tricks without messing up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Is seven or eight too high of a number and
maybe you could just do four?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Right? You're probably right there. That's very realistically. I would
be happy with four.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Are the other skateboard boys doing seven and eight? And
that's why you feel that's what you have to do?

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
No, Because I've been I've been hanging out with an
age appropriate group of guys, so just when I do
any flip trick, they're like, wow, you can still do that.
But there's the video magazine that comes out quarterly or whatever,
and I'm working on a segment for that, and the
filmer is a kid that I knew from skateboarding. He's

(01:02:53):
very good and he is very good at telling me
how to do certain tricks and the way to have
my body positioned and casually, like there's no pressure, just
try this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
You can do this trick and this trick. Why don't
you combine them? And then I'm doing something that I
didn't know I could do.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
But he's kind of tricking me into it, or you
don't have to if you don't want to, Like he's
really a he's a very good camera and the anxiety
I get from just a camera being pointed at me
for the first time, they call it a bail gun
for a reason, like you're conscious of the camera and

(01:03:31):
then all of a sudden you can't do things. But
he's helping me get used to it, and I'm really
excited about some of the stuff we're getting. But meanwhile,
I have not cared about stand up or all the
things in life that like pennying my bills. It's a
version of a midlife crisis that I'm having, but.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
It's also.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
In all realistic ways, I farewell to it, because you know,
I'm probably not going to keep me able to do
it and push myself right, because I have this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Goal now of trying to get.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Relearn all these things. So it's been so fun for
me and therapeutic for me. Like like that little kid
in the rain, that's the whole reason.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Yep, that was you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Yeah, it's been really great.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Do you ever wear a leopard print little dress like
hers with body?

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
I almost got uh little zebra striped knee pads for oh,
in case I ever start skating pools again, but I'm
more scared of that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Mine is mostly curb sliding.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
I just that was me doing a hand gesture of
you dropping in right, cool, No, that is I knew.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
I knew that's just your head's the body and you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Go down and then you go up and you have
to slam it down.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
That's the one that Pete almost killed himself on. He
tried to drop in and immediate I think broke his ankle.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Oh, because he hadn't done it for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Yeah, he just wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
And then he was at a skate park and he
was with nine year old Adrian's son who was nine
years old at the time, who now works for the
CIA at the time. He was nine, and Johnny had
to skate down and be like, are you okay? And
then this other kid skateboards by and looks at Johnny
and goes, I think your grandpa's dead.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Oh god.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
It's like and it's like, in no way as like
old enough to be a grandpa or even a father.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
It was like the funniest, it's so funny, toughest, that's
like mean, the meanness has left this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
That's one thing I've noticed.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Little kids have gotten used to being around older kids
and the unspoken, like like you go first, I like
paying attention to where other people are. I see little
skaters being so mature in that way says mean things anymore. No, no, no, Yeah,

(01:06:02):
it's been great. Toe that's very sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Back into it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
I love it, but I gotta I gotta start doing
stand up more often than all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Yeah, but also I feel like of all and I mean,
I know it's just to the person, but I was
always so surprised how not mean and not bitchy skateboard.
The skateboard team was, Yeah, they're just like it's the
most go along, get along.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Yeah it is. It's great.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
It's It was always such a misconception, especially in small towns.
When you're trying to have meetings to raise money for
parks and recreation funds to build a skate park, they're
always like, well, that's going to be a meeting place
for young people and they're gonna smoke cigarettes and do
drugs and play with guns. And it's like, are you

(01:06:52):
kidding me? This is the thing that will make them
not do that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
God knows what I would have done with idle time
if I wasn't. I wasn't even hanging out with girls.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
I spent all my best boner years just skateboarding, causing
no trouble, and and that's all I cared about. Yeah,
and then all of a sudden, I's in college and
I'm like, I don't even know how to talk to people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
I better start snowboarding.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
But no one, yeah, yeah, but no one was getting hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
It's just so what does everybody want? So that I
can say it all at one time?

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
I might get a little shake?

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Okay, should we just wrap it up before we order that?
I yeah, because we've been this is a long one.
Just because we're having fun doesn't mean you've got to
make This a two.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Part we Don't Have To podcast forever.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
This was fun.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
It feels like the old Here's to chasing the old times. Karen, Yeah, yeah,
you've been listening to Do You Need a Ride?

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
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Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
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Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
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Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
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