April 4, 2022 • 26 mins
This week’s hometowns include selling swords in a mall and a high school assembly gone wrong.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello, Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder. This is
the minisode where you write your stuff into us and
we read it to you. Please keep writing your stuff
into us.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's such a great agreement. You hear it, We have
something to read.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's the best. Everyone wins.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Do you want me to go first? Sure, let's see
this first one. I won't read it. The subject line
it says, hi ladies at all. Listening to all of
George's talk about swords in the Game of Thrones made
me remember a forgotten incident from my retail days. I
moved to Halifax, Nova Scotia in September two thousand and
six for school. I needed a part time job to
supplement my student loans, and I started working at a small,
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locally owned furniture and home to core store called Wicker Emporium.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yes, all you need is wicker.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
That is it? What's more?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Furniture is there so many slivers. It's a full emporium,
but there's only wicker. Oh shit, Okay, think heavy real
wood furniture, baskets, textiles, and mirrors, mostly sourced from countries
like Indonesia.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
The store I primarily.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Worked at was at Halifax Shopping center on the second floor,
right around the corner from the food court. The food
court overlooked a mezzanine below where there were some kiosks,
and one of those kiosks was called House of Knives.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
In the middle of a mall. Yeah, let's not put weapons.
I mean in the middle of the mall.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You know, easy for you to say, could you have this?
You know this panoramic twenty twenty vision.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
But ye, these mall builders, they were just they were
trying to give people what they want.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Sure, fair enough, Okay, so you can probably see where
this is going.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
A house of knives was manned.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
A whole House of knives was manned by a single
staff person and had locked glass cases, though you can
see the different knives. One of these cases held a sword,
and one night while I was working, a man smashed
the glass case, pulled the five foot long sword out,
and started threatening people. We could hear shouting from down below,
and only minutes later security directed us to close the
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gate to the store. We shut our gate and we
locked it from the inside and waited. Meanwhile, my coworker
and I discussed how we worked in the Best Store
in terms of defending ourselves from an amateur sword fighter.
We carried these big acacia wood chairs that would certainly.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Have made an excellent shield.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
In the end, the police arrived and managed to taser
the man as he lunged at one.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Of the officers.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Luckily they subdued him before he had a chance to
hurt anyone. It was a scary situation for the staff
and customers of stores on the bottom floor, many of
whom witnessed the man wielding this huge sword and shouting.
House of knives. Didn't last much longer in the mall.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
No shit, they're insurance shot way up. They're like, not
worth it.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
The mall planners were like, okay, guys, here's the thing,
we didn't really think this through. I guess they determined
that the safety risk to their staff person was likely
not worth it. I worked off and on for Wicker
Emporium for a few more years, but eventually they close
that down to I now work in the charitable sector
for an awesome organization doing amazing things to support people
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living in poverty, experiencing homelessness and social isolation.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
A much better.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Job for me, but I always value the shit that
retail workers have to put up with.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So true.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It's some of the best training for life. Stay sexy
and maybe stay away from a house of knives, Sarah.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Just that feeling when you're in a public place and
suddenly here but can't see a commotion and don't know
if it's like a positive like birthday commotion or if
it's a sword wheeling commotion and you just have to
wait and find out what it is.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, it's a big reveal, like once you get on
that escalator and get to the top and see, right,
is it a birthday sword party?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, then you.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Don't know how to feel negative commotion or positive commotion.
All right, this one goes Hi Animi, Dottie, Moe, Cookie,
Frank and Blossom. Longtime listener, first time writer. Okay, that's
a lie.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I've written in at least.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Three times before, but my stories are never chosen because
they're always too long. But don't worry, I'm going to
spend the last two hours of my work day picking
apart every detail so I can finally live up to
your standards and get my thirty seconds of fame.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Nice after a good start.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I was listening to MANYISO two sixty eight when the
story of the body being found in a wall reminded
me of one of my own hometowns. I'm from Omaha, Nebraska,
which is just right across the river and about a
twenty minute drive from Council Bluffs, Iowa. In November of
two thousand and nine, five year old man named Larry
got into an argument with his parents and stormed out
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of his house with no shoes, no socks, no keys,
and no car in the middle of a snowstorm. His
parents reported him missing pretty quickly thereafter, but he would
not be found until almost ten years later. When Larry
left that day, he went straight to the grocery store
that he worked at. He wasn't scheduled to work, but
it was common for employees to come and go even
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when they weren't scheduled. There were these large coolers in
the back of the store, and it was reportedly common
for employees to go on to the top of these
coolers as it was used for additional storage space. Police
believed that Larry must have climbed on the top of
the coolers, perhaps to clear his head after the argument
he had with his parents, when he fell twelve feet
down into the eighteen inch gap between the coolers and
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the wall and became him trapped. The coolers were so
loud that there was virtually no way that anyone could
have heard him if he was yelling for help.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I know. The grocery store was open for seven years
after Larry was reported missing, but his body wasn't found
for another three years after that. Contractors who were hired
to clear the coolers out found his body in twenty nineteen.
I can't imagine how helpless Larry must have felt, being
trapped there while his coworkers walked around the store completely
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oblivious to him being there. I feel so heartbroken for
both Larry and his parents, and I truly hope they
don't blame themselves for what happened. Anyway, that's my story.
I love you all and want to thank you for
when you donated to the flood relief in Nebraska when
you last toured. Your generosity is incredible and I can't
wait for you to tour again because I won't hesitate
to buy tickets this time around. Stay sexy and don't
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get murdered, Kat, That.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Is such an awful story, Yeah, and it's such an
interesting detail of the coolers are loud. Yeah, soone's cold.
And it's the smell. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
God, I I just kind of have this fascination with
these awful stories of when someone goes missing.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I mean, foul play.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Is the first thought, but there's these stories and the
one where people just drive off the road into a
lake and aren't found ever or eventually found, you know,
thirty years later. It's such a it's such a like
a crazy right turn as to what you expect, which
is foul play. That's just a really awful tragic accident.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I just read about It was a couple of
weeks ago and I think it was the Oakland Coliseum
or there was a big public space in Oakland that
they were just knocking down and they found a body
in the wall and it seemed right and they don't
know yet, right, Yeah, they don't know. They didn't see
any but it was.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Like from years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I think it was like fifteen years ago, and they
said they didn't see any evidence of foul play, but
they couldn't say one way or the other because it
was the body was so old. Yeah, so sad, Okay,
this is crazy. I'll just read it to you, not
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the subject line assurances you are well, that's how it starts.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
My hometown.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Murder happened in the fall of twenty fourteen in the
Pocono Mountains in Pennsylvania. I happen to be home in
wilkes Bar.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Is that how you pronounce that? What's that?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Wilkes Bars It's a city anyway, It's thirty minutes away
from the Pocono Mountains in Pennsylvania. It might be one
of those wilkes Bury things that people are all going
to yell, But of course, as they will and they should,
I'm going to pronounce it as it's spelled.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Wilkes Bar.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Visiting family for a few weeks of vacation at the time.
On the night of September twelfth, twenty fourteen, a man
opened fire on state troopers outside of the police barracks
in the pocon Hose. State Trooper Brian K. Dixon, thirty
eight years old, was killed and his colleague Alex Douglas
was seriously injured. Because it was so dark and the
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barracks were essentially on the outskirts of the woods, no
one saw what happened, and the culprit was not identified
at the time. Three days later, a man walking his
dog found a jeep partially submerged in a nearby pond,
and inside were personal belongings of one Eric Frayne. Frayne
was a man in his thirties with a past record
of burglary and larceny. He apparently was an avid participant
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in recreational military simulations and then in parenthesase it says,
I imagine analogous to Civil War reenactments, and he lived
with his parents at the time. When the story hit
the media, a number of conspiracy theories arose, including one
that Frayn meant to kill the other state trooper, who
had at one point been in a romantic relationship with
his sister. The theoretical motive was that the state trooper
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had cheated on her at some point and Frayne sought revenge. However,
none of these were ever confirmed or acknowledged by state police.
In the following days, a man hunt by police officers
grew from more than two hundred to almost one thousand
officers searching for him. Frayan was a skilled outdoorsy type
and successfully evaded the police with the help of the
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dense cover of the woods and his knowledge of the
various terrains in the area. During the hunt. Police believed
they saw him several times, but were unable to approach
him due to the rugged terrain, which allowed him to
continually slip away. Police officials believed him to be mentally unstable,
implying that he was taunting the police with his evasion
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tactics as some sort of game, perhaps a note to
his enthusiasm for military simulations combined with underlying mental health issues.
I remember at one point they found the little stashes
of his supplies, including discarded food wrappers and even soiled diapers,
and then in parentheses it says, imagine that is the
headline for the six o'clock news. They actually used the
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phrase diaper sniper at one point, yeah, thinking it would
catch on, and then it says dot dot dot. It didn't. No,
it didn't. The police even enlisted outdoor survivalists to help
during their search because they were so out of their league.
The man hunt in the world Woods of northeastern Pennsylvania
lasted for forty eight days wow, Yeah, until they finally
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captured and arrested him. He was later sentenced to death
in twenty seventeen and currently awaits execution.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
On death row.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I don't think any acknowledgment was made of his mental
health issues, but I assumed that played a major role
and that he had lost his grip on reality anyway.
I think the wildest part of this story is just
the length of the manhunt, as it essentially left many
residents of the area under lockdown for over a month.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
A month and a half.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, no one in and no one out, difficulty getting
to and from jobs and the store. It must have
been terrifying and miserable at all at the same time.
Love you much and congrats on the continued success. SSDGM Josh, Wow, Right,
he's some Rambo shit, but like Rambo was the hero.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That's the opposite of that, right, I mean, but also
that idea that it's that idea that it's like is he.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Evading police or playing games or is it that just
you don't know how to be in that kind of terrain? Yeah,
I mean everything about that is just like, Yeah, you're
just you're just some coppin like Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
You're having mercy because you're yeah, you're on his terrain
and on his ground. Oh that's terrifying. Yeah, like that
moved to New York.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's that's a solution.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Wait, don't do that. Okay, this was called my Catfisher
created a whole world too. Dear MFM squad, fucking intro.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I've been waiting for you guys to bring up Sweet
Bobby the podcast after recommending it a few weeks ago,
or maybe last week. I have no sense of time.
Y'all ask for catfish stories, so here's mine. I was
Catfish from twenty twelve to twenty fourteen. In a similar
way of the Sweet Bobby story, my Catfisher created multiple
personalities and characters that would back up my quote boyfriend
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Cade's tail. I had a brother named John, his brother's boyfriend,
other family members, and even friends we met on Facebook,
both on our own Harry Potter roleplay accounts. I was
entering seventh grade at the time, and without many friends
at school, I spent an embarrassing amount of time dedicated
to the Harry Potter fandom. Originally, I was friends with
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Caid's older brother John, who would eventually quote set me
up with Caid. He was conveniently my age into everything
I loved and gave me attention, which would have been
enough for twelve year old me. Through Cad and John,
I was introduced to a slew of personalities that would
talk to me about Cad, where you firm information he
had given me, and even let me confide in them
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about personal issues I was having with him. This continued
for almost two years. During this time, my real life
personal relationships were falling apart, and I was incredibly suicidal,
not able to do anything right. In Caid's eyes, this
is just a little kid being manipulated online.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's insane.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Thankfully, a friend of the Catfishers who I won't name,
pressured her into admitting that every person I had met
in CAD's circle had all been her. Ough at first
I didn't really believe her, but after talking with the
actual person in the photos, it was devastating news. Being
in a controlling relationship during such a critical part of
my childhood ruined how I dated later in life and
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how I viewed myself worth. Luckily, after lots of therapy,
I have a wonderful Murderino partner who shows me every
day that I'm worthy of love. I will admit sometimes
I look at my Catfisher social media to see how
she's doing. God damn it, she's doing great in life. Please,
can I just say that that's based on social media,
not realize.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yes, thank you, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
She's a good manipulator. Then don't fucking buy any of it.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Right, those putting out those pictures are exactly what they're
the best at.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
That's right now that it's been almost a decade, I
wish her lots of peace. Teenagers do horrible things. Well,
I don't think it was logical of her to do.
I have no ill will now and then it says
in parentheses, okay, just a little bit, but that's reasonable.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Thanks again for all you do.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I'm not going to apologize for this being long because
I'm a rambler and you read it all anyways.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Love and appreciation, Peyton.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
They them, It's true, we do read it all anyway.
So yeah, what the hell that home down?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Right?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
There is the argument why kids should not be on
the internet like generation that grew up on the internet,
because no one thought these insane, evil, weird, crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Things would happen.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's just like, oh, you're on a message board. You're
just talking to other people that are like you.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Right, it's like that saying hurt people hurt people. So
you've got these twelve year olds who are going through
their own shit and then they're going to manipulate other
people just to get control over their lives. I mean,
and Peyton is then dealing with the consequences for the
rest of their lives.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It is a trauma.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
I just hope people take that seriously, like even though
absolutely you never met them.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
No, it's a it's a breach of trust.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's it's learning that there are people in the world
who will fuck with you for no reason. That basically
that's your first past with a sociopath that it's like
they fuck with you for their own entertainment.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, and also it's yeah, that's and then you're also
you're embarrassed about it, so you don't want to tell anyone,
so there's a shame as well.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well yeah, but luckily there's a television show called Catfish
and several thousand Netflix series and podcasts that are all
about people lots of therapy.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Having this happen.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
There's a there's a new show on Netflix that I
just stumbled upon the other night called Bad Vegan about
a woman who owned like one of the most popular
vegan restaurants in New York City and she gets pulled
into this relationship with this person who is a total
like it's this time's one hundred, it's one of them.
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It's yet another crazy story too. Yeah, you should watch it.
It's very common. I just like, yeah, there should be
no shame about it because it's like it's common.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
And it's not your fault.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
They're smarter than the average bear, so like falling for
it is completely expected because it's basically you have kind
of like a semi evil genius. Yeah, looking to manipulate
you totally. Well, it's interesting because here's my third email.
The subject line is I tried to catch a predator
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when I was thirteen.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Oh no, and it just starts.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yo. I just finished listening to the latest episode The
chip Away Method, and you put out a call for
catfishing stories and specifically mentioned aol. I was born in
nineteen ninety one, so I was right on time for
AIM to become the instant messenger of choice. Through my
junior high and high school years, I was severely socially
anxious and depressed as a kid, so I thrived in
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this new anonymous socialization. Though I put myself out there
more than I should have. I never showed my face,
gave anyone my address or even told people what part
of the state I lived in. Not because I ever
had any formal talks about internet safety, but because I
was a young Marderino. Thanks to my mom an avid
fan of true crime and crime thrillers, I had seen
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enough episodes of Classic Law and Order SVU and even
CSI to know that these creeps could be dangerous.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah. Ye.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
My best friend at the time didn't seem to get
the memo, because one day I got a message from
someone calling themselves Cheese Goblin Classy. Not only did he
know what town I lived in, he also lived in
the same town and knew my best friend. I confirmed
with her that she did know this cheese Goblin, and
they had been talking for a while. He was sixteen,
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allegedly I was thirteen, she was twelve. I didn't go
out of my way to talk to him, but he
sure was interested in talking to me, often using my
best friend as a topic to start conversation. He eventually
said we should meet up. We could go to a park.
My best friend had said she would meet him too.
He could teach me how to kiss and have sex
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if I went back to his house with him. I
called in my younger sister because this situation clearly needed
the advice of a.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Ten year old murder you know, my god.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
First, we agreed no one would want to take up
an offer from someone calling himself cheese goblin, somehow concerned
about hurting the feelings of this mutual quote unquote friend.
I told him I was nervous about the idea instead
of outright rejecting him.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
How did I know he was who he said he was?
He sent me a picture of himself allegedly.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Second, we agreed that not only was he ugly, but
he looked like he was at least eighteen, if not
in his early twenties. Realizing this guy was a bigger
creep than I thought, and having a passing notion of
to catch a predator, I immediately decide that we.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Can make this a sting operation. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
We lived right across the street from a part with
an unobstructed view of the entire area from our bedroom window.
I told him to meet me at this park at
a specific time. I assured him he wouldn't need my
picture because I would be the only one coming up
to talk to him. With the trap set, I told
my sister to get one of the handsets for our
house phone, you know, to call the cops because this
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was a serious operation. And we sat on the top
bunk of our bed and watched and waited. To our
immense disappointment, no one went to the park that afternoon.
I didn't get to have anyone arrested. Maybe he also
had a passing knowledge of to catch a predator and
had been watching and waiting to see if I would
show up. When I asked him where he had been,
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saying that I had in fact been waiting, he said
his mom wouldn't let him leave the house.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
As I later found out, my best friend had also
had the same proposition and the same idea, and had
staked out her own local park with a friend hiding
in a wooded area with a cell phone.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
We tried to catch him at least three more times,
with various scenarios of meeting one or both of us.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
We never caught.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Him and eventually blocked him and continued living our preteen lives.
But for a little while, predators in our town had
to watch out for sting operations set up not by
cops but by little kids way too invested in true
crime SSDGM and report creeps to the actual police instead
of trying to catch them yourself.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Megan, Oh my god, where are the parents in this situation?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
They were working all day and then second job overnight ship.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, holy shit.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I have to.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Say that mom, being a true crime person, basically hipped
her kids to like, don't take things at face value.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Totally like when you split this in your head before
I leave you alone. Yeah, basic life skills. She could
have just been right downstairs and they were just doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Wow, that's fucked up.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, okay, my last one is called That's not mine. Hello.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Friends.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
First off, I know that this isn't technically a murderer,
but it is a crime and it has burned into
the back of my brain, so I thought I should
share and give y'all a laugh. All right, let's get
into it. When I was a sophomore in high school
about four or five years ago, we were forced to
sit through a three hour long assembly at a ripe
eight am. The assembly was meant to highlight the different
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possible career paths we could take after college. So my
biology class trudged toward the auditorium with half closed eyes.
My entire graduating class was there listening to a man
drone on and on about the wonders of accounting and
the exciting world of finances. Our principal walked on stage
and announced the next presenter, who just happened to work
in the same department of the same hospital as my mom,
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which stuck with me and made for an awkward conversation
over dinner that night. The man's name was Gary, and
he was fiddling with the projector in front of the stage.
He plugged in the flash drive to the computer and
all of the sudden photos folder popped up on screen. Oh,
that's right, the normal middle aged guy's pictures his wife
the beach, his wife at the beach. But then it
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started getting weird, showing pictures of old boobs, nope, sewing,
pictures of old boots. Leave that in, stupid old boots
and high heels, and some women's clothing. And then a
photo flashed on the screen. I thought I was just
seeing things, because once it popped up, nobody really said anything,
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but the auditorium soon erupted with cheers and laughs. This
man showed an auditorium a three hundred and fifteen year
old's porn.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
No, it was a.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Screenshot of some weird fetish shit projected for the entire
class of twenty twenty to see at eight am.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I love like that's eight am. It was even worse,
you know, for real, that's tough.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
He turned red as a tomato, all while muttering that's
not mine, and then an all cap that says, then
whose is it? Gary? Can we have shirts? Then whose
is it?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Gary?
Speaker 4 (23:56):
My principal ran down the auditorium and escorted him outside,
all while we were chanting Gary, Gary, where we all
saw him with a police officer. It's safe to say
that nobody paid attention for the rest of the day
to anything. Also, could I just say this is probably
not an accident, that is someone's fetish right.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Showing children porn?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Uh huh? Could be the worst part about it all
was I had texted my mom during the assembly that
a representative of her extremely Catholic hospital was presenting like
so Catholic, they don't cover birth control under their health insurance,
what the hell? And I had to tell her everything
that had happened. When I got home, she was on
the phone with her boss and I had to tell
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them what happened in great detail. They asked me to
tell them what the picture was exactly, but I pretended
I didn't see it. In reality, I just did not
want to describe pornography to my mother and her very
Catholic boss. Still to this day she pressures me on
what the picture was and I still have not told her.
But that doesn't stop me from telling all of my
friends in college. Okay, this assembly was also the reason
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and my class wasn't allowed to have senior quotes because
it was mutually understood that we all would have put that's.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Not mine under our senior composits.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
To live forever and in for me, just another thing
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so much for everything you do. Y'all got me through
the pandemic, countless flights to and from college, and inspired
me to study law along with psychology. Stay sexy, and
for the love of God, keep your work porn separate
from your high school presentations.
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And there's one.
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Speaker 3 (26:30):
Good Bye,
Hello, Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder. This is
the minisode where you write your stuff into us and
we read it to you. Please keep writing your stuff
into us.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's such a great agreement. You hear it, We have
something to read.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's the best. Everyone wins.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Do you want me to go first? Sure, let's see
this first one. I won't read it. The subject line
it says, hi ladies at all. Listening to all of
George's talk about swords in the Game of Thrones made
me remember a forgotten incident from my retail days. I
moved to Halifax, Nova Scotia in September two thousand and
six for school. I needed a part time job to
supplement my student loans, and I started working at a small,
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locally owned furniture and home to core store called Wicker Emporium.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yes, all you need is wicker.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
That is it? What's more?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Furniture is there so many slivers. It's a full emporium,
but there's only wicker. Oh shit, Okay, think heavy real
wood furniture, baskets, textiles, and mirrors, mostly sourced from countries
like Indonesia.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
The store I primarily.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Worked at was at Halifax Shopping center on the second floor,
right around the corner from the food court. The food
court overlooked a mezzanine below where there were some kiosks,
and one of those kiosks was called House of Knives.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
In the middle of a mall. Yeah, let's not put weapons.
I mean in the middle of the mall.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You know, easy for you to say, could you have this?
You know this panoramic twenty twenty vision.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
But ye, these mall builders, they were just they were
trying to give people what they want.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Sure, fair enough, Okay, so you can probably see where
this is going.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
A house of knives was manned.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
A whole House of knives was manned by a single
staff person and had locked glass cases, though you can
see the different knives. One of these cases held a sword,
and one night while I was working, a man smashed
the glass case, pulled the five foot long sword out,
and started threatening people. We could hear shouting from down below,
and only minutes later security directed us to close the
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gate to the store. We shut our gate and we
locked it from the inside and waited. Meanwhile, my coworker
and I discussed how we worked in the Best Store
in terms of defending ourselves from an amateur sword fighter.
We carried these big acacia wood chairs that would certainly.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Have made an excellent shield.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
In the end, the police arrived and managed to taser
the man as he lunged at one.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Of the officers.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Luckily they subdued him before he had a chance to
hurt anyone. It was a scary situation for the staff
and customers of stores on the bottom floor, many of
whom witnessed the man wielding this huge sword and shouting.
House of knives. Didn't last much longer in the mall.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
No shit, they're insurance shot way up. They're like, not
worth it.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
The mall planners were like, okay, guys, here's the thing,
we didn't really think this through. I guess they determined
that the safety risk to their staff person was likely
not worth it. I worked off and on for Wicker
Emporium for a few more years, but eventually they close
that down to I now work in the charitable sector
for an awesome organization doing amazing things to support people
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living in poverty, experiencing homelessness and social isolation.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
A much better.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Job for me, but I always value the shit that
retail workers have to put up with.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So true.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It's some of the best training for life. Stay sexy
and maybe stay away from a house of knives, Sarah.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Just that feeling when you're in a public place and
suddenly here but can't see a commotion and don't know
if it's like a positive like birthday commotion or if
it's a sword wheeling commotion and you just have to
wait and find out what it is.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, it's a big reveal, like once you get on
that escalator and get to the top and see, right,
is it a birthday sword party?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, then you.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Don't know how to feel negative commotion or positive commotion.
All right, this one goes Hi Animi, Dottie, Moe, Cookie,
Frank and Blossom. Longtime listener, first time writer. Okay, that's
a lie.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I've written in at least.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Three times before, but my stories are never chosen because
they're always too long. But don't worry, I'm going to
spend the last two hours of my work day picking
apart every detail so I can finally live up to
your standards and get my thirty seconds of fame.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Nice after a good start.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I was listening to MANYISO two sixty eight when the
story of the body being found in a wall reminded
me of one of my own hometowns. I'm from Omaha, Nebraska,
which is just right across the river and about a
twenty minute drive from Council Bluffs, Iowa. In November of
two thousand and nine, five year old man named Larry
got into an argument with his parents and stormed out
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of his house with no shoes, no socks, no keys,
and no car in the middle of a snowstorm. His
parents reported him missing pretty quickly thereafter, but he would
not be found until almost ten years later. When Larry
left that day, he went straight to the grocery store
that he worked at. He wasn't scheduled to work, but
it was common for employees to come and go even
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when they weren't scheduled. There were these large coolers in
the back of the store, and it was reportedly common
for employees to go on to the top of these
coolers as it was used for additional storage space. Police
believed that Larry must have climbed on the top of
the coolers, perhaps to clear his head after the argument
he had with his parents, when he fell twelve feet
down into the eighteen inch gap between the coolers and
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the wall and became him trapped. The coolers were so
loud that there was virtually no way that anyone could
have heard him if he was yelling for help.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I know. The grocery store was open for seven years
after Larry was reported missing, but his body wasn't found
for another three years after that. Contractors who were hired
to clear the coolers out found his body in twenty nineteen.
I can't imagine how helpless Larry must have felt, being
trapped there while his coworkers walked around the store completely
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oblivious to him being there. I feel so heartbroken for
both Larry and his parents, and I truly hope they
don't blame themselves for what happened. Anyway, that's my story.
I love you all and want to thank you for
when you donated to the flood relief in Nebraska when
you last toured. Your generosity is incredible and I can't
wait for you to tour again because I won't hesitate
to buy tickets this time around. Stay sexy and don't
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get murdered, Kat, That.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Is such an awful story, Yeah, and it's such an
interesting detail of the coolers are loud. Yeah, soone's cold.
And it's the smell. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
God, I I just kind of have this fascination with
these awful stories of when someone goes missing.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I mean, foul play.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Is the first thought, but there's these stories and the
one where people just drive off the road into a
lake and aren't found ever or eventually found, you know,
thirty years later. It's such a it's such a like
a crazy right turn as to what you expect, which
is foul play. That's just a really awful tragic accident.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I just read about It was a couple of
weeks ago and I think it was the Oakland Coliseum
or there was a big public space in Oakland that
they were just knocking down and they found a body
in the wall and it seemed right and they don't
know yet, right, Yeah, they don't know. They didn't see
any but it was.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Like from years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I think it was like fifteen years ago, and they
said they didn't see any evidence of foul play, but
they couldn't say one way or the other because it
was the body was so old. Yeah, so sad, Okay,
this is crazy. I'll just read it to you, not
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the subject line assurances you are well, that's how it starts.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
My hometown.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Murder happened in the fall of twenty fourteen in the
Pocono Mountains in Pennsylvania. I happen to be home in
wilkes Bar.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Is that how you pronounce that? What's that?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Wilkes Bars It's a city anyway, It's thirty minutes away
from the Pocono Mountains in Pennsylvania. It might be one
of those wilkes Bury things that people are all going
to yell, But of course, as they will and they should,
I'm going to pronounce it as it's spelled.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Wilkes Bar.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Visiting family for a few weeks of vacation at the time.
On the night of September twelfth, twenty fourteen, a man
opened fire on state troopers outside of the police barracks
in the pocon Hose. State Trooper Brian K. Dixon, thirty
eight years old, was killed and his colleague Alex Douglas
was seriously injured. Because it was so dark and the
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barracks were essentially on the outskirts of the woods, no
one saw what happened, and the culprit was not identified
at the time. Three days later, a man walking his
dog found a jeep partially submerged in a nearby pond,
and inside were personal belongings of one Eric Frayne. Frayne
was a man in his thirties with a past record
of burglary and larceny. He apparently was an avid participant
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in recreational military simulations and then in parenthesase it says,
I imagine analogous to Civil War reenactments, and he lived
with his parents at the time. When the story hit
the media, a number of conspiracy theories arose, including one
that Frayn meant to kill the other state trooper, who
had at one point been in a romantic relationship with
his sister. The theoretical motive was that the state trooper
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had cheated on her at some point and Frayne sought revenge. However,
none of these were ever confirmed or acknowledged by state police.
In the following days, a man hunt by police officers
grew from more than two hundred to almost one thousand
officers searching for him. Frayan was a skilled outdoorsy type
and successfully evaded the police with the help of the
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dense cover of the woods and his knowledge of the
various terrains in the area. During the hunt. Police believed
they saw him several times, but were unable to approach
him due to the rugged terrain, which allowed him to
continually slip away. Police officials believed him to be mentally unstable,
implying that he was taunting the police with his evasion
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tactics as some sort of game, perhaps a note to
his enthusiasm for military simulations combined with underlying mental health issues.
I remember at one point they found the little stashes
of his supplies, including discarded food wrappers and even soiled diapers,
and then in parentheses it says, imagine that is the
headline for the six o'clock news. They actually used the
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phrase diaper sniper at one point, yeah, thinking it would
catch on, and then it says dot dot dot. It didn't. No,
it didn't. The police even enlisted outdoor survivalists to help
during their search because they were so out of their league.
The man hunt in the world Woods of northeastern Pennsylvania
lasted for forty eight days wow, Yeah, until they finally
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captured and arrested him. He was later sentenced to death
in twenty seventeen and currently awaits execution.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
On death row.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I don't think any acknowledgment was made of his mental
health issues, but I assumed that played a major role
and that he had lost his grip on reality anyway.
I think the wildest part of this story is just
the length of the manhunt, as it essentially left many
residents of the area under lockdown for over a month.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
A month and a half.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, no one in and no one out, difficulty getting
to and from jobs and the store. It must have
been terrifying and miserable at all at the same time.
Love you much and congrats on the continued success. SSDGM Josh, Wow, Right,
he's some Rambo shit, but like Rambo was the hero.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That's the opposite of that, right, I mean, but also
that idea that it's that idea that it's like is he.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Evading police or playing games or is it that just
you don't know how to be in that kind of terrain? Yeah,
I mean everything about that is just like, Yeah, you're
just you're just some coppin like Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
You're having mercy because you're yeah, you're on his terrain
and on his ground. Oh that's terrifying. Yeah, like that
moved to New York.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's that's a solution.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Wait, don't do that. Okay, this was called my Catfisher
created a whole world too. Dear MFM squad, fucking intro.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I've been waiting for you guys to bring up Sweet
Bobby the podcast after recommending it a few weeks ago,
or maybe last week. I have no sense of time.
Y'all ask for catfish stories, so here's mine. I was
Catfish from twenty twelve to twenty fourteen. In a similar
way of the Sweet Bobby story, my Catfisher created multiple
personalities and characters that would back up my quote boyfriend
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Cade's tail. I had a brother named John, his brother's boyfriend,
other family members, and even friends we met on Facebook,
both on our own Harry Potter roleplay accounts. I was
entering seventh grade at the time, and without many friends
at school, I spent an embarrassing amount of time dedicated
to the Harry Potter fandom. Originally, I was friends with
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Caid's older brother John, who would eventually quote set me
up with Caid. He was conveniently my age into everything
I loved and gave me attention, which would have been
enough for twelve year old me. Through Cad and John,
I was introduced to a slew of personalities that would
talk to me about Cad, where you firm information he
had given me, and even let me confide in them
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about personal issues I was having with him. This continued
for almost two years. During this time, my real life
personal relationships were falling apart, and I was incredibly suicidal,
not able to do anything right. In Caid's eyes, this
is just a little kid being manipulated online.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's insane.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Thankfully, a friend of the Catfishers who I won't name,
pressured her into admitting that every person I had met
in CAD's circle had all been her. Ough at first
I didn't really believe her, but after talking with the
actual person in the photos, it was devastating news. Being
in a controlling relationship during such a critical part of
my childhood ruined how I dated later in life and
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how I viewed myself worth. Luckily, after lots of therapy,
I have a wonderful Murderino partner who shows me every
day that I'm worthy of love. I will admit sometimes
I look at my Catfisher social media to see how
she's doing. God damn it, she's doing great in life. Please,
can I just say that that's based on social media,
not realize.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yes, thank you, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
She's a good manipulator. Then don't fucking buy any of it.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Right, those putting out those pictures are exactly what they're
the best at.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
That's right now that it's been almost a decade, I
wish her lots of peace. Teenagers do horrible things. Well,
I don't think it was logical of her to do.
I have no ill will now and then it says
in parentheses, okay, just a little bit, but that's reasonable.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Thanks again for all you do.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I'm not going to apologize for this being long because
I'm a rambler and you read it all anyways.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Love and appreciation, Peyton.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
They them, It's true, we do read it all anyway.
So yeah, what the hell that home down?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Right?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
There is the argument why kids should not be on
the internet like generation that grew up on the internet,
because no one thought these insane, evil, weird, crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Things would happen.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's just like, oh, you're on a message board. You're
just talking to other people that are like you.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Right, it's like that saying hurt people hurt people. So
you've got these twelve year olds who are going through
their own shit and then they're going to manipulate other
people just to get control over their lives. I mean,
and Peyton is then dealing with the consequences for the
rest of their lives.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It is a trauma.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
I just hope people take that seriously, like even though
absolutely you never met them.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
No, it's a it's a breach of trust.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's it's learning that there are people in the world
who will fuck with you for no reason. That basically
that's your first past with a sociopath that it's like
they fuck with you for their own entertainment.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, and also it's yeah, that's and then you're also
you're embarrassed about it, so you don't want to tell anyone,
so there's a shame as well.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well yeah, but luckily there's a television show called Catfish
and several thousand Netflix series and podcasts that are all
about people lots of therapy.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Having this happen.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
There's a there's a new show on Netflix that I
just stumbled upon the other night called Bad Vegan about
a woman who owned like one of the most popular
vegan restaurants in New York City and she gets pulled
into this relationship with this person who is a total
like it's this time's one hundred, it's one of them.
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It's yet another crazy story too. Yeah, you should watch it.
It's very common. I just like, yeah, there should be
no shame about it because it's like it's common.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
And it's not your fault.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
They're smarter than the average bear, so like falling for
it is completely expected because it's basically you have kind
of like a semi evil genius. Yeah, looking to manipulate
you totally. Well, it's interesting because here's my third email.
The subject line is I tried to catch a predator
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when I was thirteen.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Oh no, and it just starts.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yo. I just finished listening to the latest episode The
chip Away Method, and you put out a call for
catfishing stories and specifically mentioned aol. I was born in
nineteen ninety one, so I was right on time for
AIM to become the instant messenger of choice. Through my
junior high and high school years, I was severely socially
anxious and depressed as a kid, so I thrived in
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this new anonymous socialization. Though I put myself out there
more than I should have. I never showed my face,
gave anyone my address or even told people what part
of the state I lived in. Not because I ever
had any formal talks about internet safety, but because I
was a young Marderino. Thanks to my mom an avid
fan of true crime and crime thrillers, I had seen
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enough episodes of Classic Law and Order SVU and even
CSI to know that these creeps could be dangerous.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah. Ye.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
My best friend at the time didn't seem to get
the memo, because one day I got a message from
someone calling themselves Cheese Goblin Classy. Not only did he
know what town I lived in, he also lived in
the same town and knew my best friend. I confirmed
with her that she did know this cheese Goblin, and
they had been talking for a while. He was sixteen,
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allegedly I was thirteen, she was twelve. I didn't go
out of my way to talk to him, but he
sure was interested in talking to me, often using my
best friend as a topic to start conversation. He eventually
said we should meet up. We could go to a park.
My best friend had said she would meet him too.
He could teach me how to kiss and have sex
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if I went back to his house with him. I
called in my younger sister because this situation clearly needed
the advice of a.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Ten year old murder you know, my god.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
First, we agreed no one would want to take up
an offer from someone calling himself cheese goblin, somehow concerned
about hurting the feelings of this mutual quote unquote friend.
I told him I was nervous about the idea instead
of outright rejecting him.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
How did I know he was who he said he was?
He sent me a picture of himself allegedly.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Second, we agreed that not only was he ugly, but
he looked like he was at least eighteen, if not
in his early twenties. Realizing this guy was a bigger
creep than I thought, and having a passing notion of
to catch a predator, I immediately decide that we.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Can make this a sting operation. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
We lived right across the street from a part with
an unobstructed view of the entire area from our bedroom window.
I told him to meet me at this park at
a specific time. I assured him he wouldn't need my
picture because I would be the only one coming up
to talk to him. With the trap set, I told
my sister to get one of the handsets for our
house phone, you know, to call the cops because this
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was a serious operation. And we sat on the top
bunk of our bed and watched and waited. To our
immense disappointment, no one went to the park that afternoon.
I didn't get to have anyone arrested. Maybe he also
had a passing knowledge of to catch a predator and
had been watching and waiting to see if I would
show up. When I asked him where he had been,
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saying that I had in fact been waiting, he said
his mom wouldn't let him leave the house.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
As I later found out, my best friend had also
had the same proposition and the same idea, and had
staked out her own local park with a friend hiding
in a wooded area with a cell phone.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
We tried to catch him at least three more times,
with various scenarios of meeting one or both of us.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
We never caught.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Him and eventually blocked him and continued living our preteen lives.
But for a little while, predators in our town had
to watch out for sting operations set up not by
cops but by little kids way too invested in true
crime SSDGM and report creeps to the actual police instead
of trying to catch them yourself.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Megan, Oh my god, where are the parents in this situation?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
They were working all day and then second job overnight ship.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, holy shit.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I have to.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Say that mom, being a true crime person, basically hipped
her kids to like, don't take things at face value.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Totally like when you split this in your head before
I leave you alone. Yeah, basic life skills. She could
have just been right downstairs and they were just doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Wow, that's fucked up.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, okay, my last one is called That's not mine. Hello.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Friends.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
First off, I know that this isn't technically a murderer,
but it is a crime and it has burned into
the back of my brain, so I thought I should
share and give y'all a laugh. All right, let's get
into it. When I was a sophomore in high school
about four or five years ago, we were forced to
sit through a three hour long assembly at a ripe
eight am. The assembly was meant to highlight the different
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possible career paths we could take after college. So my
biology class trudged toward the auditorium with half closed eyes.
My entire graduating class was there listening to a man
drone on and on about the wonders of accounting and
the exciting world of finances. Our principal walked on stage
and announced the next presenter, who just happened to work
in the same department of the same hospital as my mom,
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which stuck with me and made for an awkward conversation
over dinner that night. The man's name was Gary, and
he was fiddling with the projector in front of the stage.
He plugged in the flash drive to the computer and
all of the sudden photos folder popped up on screen. Oh,
that's right, the normal middle aged guy's pictures his wife
the beach, his wife at the beach. But then it
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started getting weird, showing pictures of old boobs, nope, sewing,
pictures of old boots. Leave that in, stupid old boots
and high heels, and some women's clothing. And then a
photo flashed on the screen. I thought I was just
seeing things, because once it popped up, nobody really said anything,
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but the auditorium soon erupted with cheers and laughs. This
man showed an auditorium a three hundred and fifteen year
old's porn.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
No, it was a.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Screenshot of some weird fetish shit projected for the entire
class of twenty twenty to see at eight am.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I love like that's eight am. It was even worse,
you know, for real, that's tough.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
He turned red as a tomato, all while muttering that's
not mine, and then an all cap that says, then
whose is it? Gary? Can we have shirts? Then whose
is it?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Gary?
Speaker 4 (23:56):
My principal ran down the auditorium and escorted him outside,
all while we were chanting Gary, Gary, where we all
saw him with a police officer. It's safe to say
that nobody paid attention for the rest of the day
to anything. Also, could I just say this is probably
not an accident, that is someone's fetish right.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Showing children porn?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Uh huh? Could be the worst part about it all
was I had texted my mom during the assembly that
a representative of her extremely Catholic hospital was presenting like
so Catholic, they don't cover birth control under their health insurance,
what the hell? And I had to tell her everything
that had happened. When I got home, she was on
the phone with her boss and I had to tell
(24:38):
them what happened in great detail. They asked me to
tell them what the picture was exactly, but I pretended
I didn't see it. In reality, I just did not
want to describe pornography to my mother and her very
Catholic boss. Still to this day she pressures me on
what the picture was and I still have not told her.
But that doesn't stop me from telling all of my
friends in college. Okay, this assembly was also the reason
(25:00):
and my class wasn't allowed to have senior quotes because
it was mutually understood that we all would have put that's.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Not mine under our senior composits.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
To live forever and in for me, just another thing
taken away from the Class of twenty twenty. Thank you
so much for everything you do. Y'all got me through
the pandemic, countless flights to and from college, and inspired
me to study law along with psychology. Stay sexy, and
for the love of God, keep your work porn separate
from your high school presentations.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
M for Real, for Real, Gary Scary, Get your shit together.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, Oh that was a real good batch they were.
And there's one.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
More from each of us on the fan cult for
the Mini minnisot If you want to listen to it,
and please keep sending us your hometowns.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
And also please stay sexy.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
And don't get murdered. Goodbye, Elvis, Do you want a cookie?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Our senior producer is Hannah Kyle Crichton.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Our producer is Allahn.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
This episode was engineered and mixed by Stephen Ray Morris.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Our researchers are j Elias and Hailey Gray.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
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Speaker 2 (26:11):
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Good Bye,
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