April 1, 2024 • 23 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you love historic true crime, Well, we've got good
news for you. Season eleven of Kate Winkler Dawson's hit
podcast Tenfold More Wicked, premieres today, April first, right here
on exactly Right.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
If you don't know Kate, she's a true crime journalist
and author who also hosts Buried Bones with Paul Hols.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
This season of tenfold More Wicked, titled Fire and Brimstone,
is about the death of a Puritan separatist in colonial
New England, twenty years before the Salem Witch Trials.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Kate joins a listener whose distant relative was killed in Portsmouth,
Rhode Island, and together they investigate the life of Rebecca
Briggs and uncover the supernatural lore surrounding her death.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Stay tuned at the end of this episode and listen
to the trailer for the newest season of tenfold More Wicked.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And don't forget to follow, rate and review the show
wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Goodbye, hello, and welcome to my favorite murder the minisodes.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You've sent these stories into us, so we've chosen to
read them.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, we want to share your stories with the world.
No secrets, no gatekeeping.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Want me to go first. Sure, Okay, this one is
quite something. I'm not going to read you the subject line,
so it starts Hello, girlies and pets. I've been listening
to years of MFM in the last few months since
I found you, and I'm finally mostly caught up. I've
been hesitant, but this story is too good not to share,
so here it is. A few years ago, while I
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was going through architecture school in the US, I visited
home and then in parentheses it says small town on
the coast of Italy. Oh what a drag. Wow. Architecture
school was so stressful that I was losing the will
to live, lost a lot of weight, even my hair gasp.
So my sweet mom decided to take me to our
family's dermatologist, who had known me since I was a child.
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During that visit, the doctor and my mom caught each
other up on their lives like old friends do, and
he told us he was going through a divorce. I
remember feeling sad for his family. We knew his wife
and they had three small children as well. He then
went on with the visit and proceeded to pull on
my hair to do a test to see if I
was just being dramatic and then decided that I was
just very stressed and needed to chill out for my
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hair to stop falling out. And then it just says
eye rol. Fast forward to a few months later. I'm
back in the US at school. My mom calls me
one day and shakily tells me to look up our
dermatologist online. Remember that during the visit he told us
about his divorce. Well, this piece of shit had lured
his wife into their family's villa under false pretenses of
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having to discuss the sale of some art in their collection.
And then a parentheses says, yes, wealthy people's problems, and
then it says, but what he actually was there to
do was beat her to death. They found her body
mostly naked, and the police implied that he had sexually
assaulted her as well. I also found out later that
not long before murdering her, he had physically attacked his
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then ex wife in public while she was at a
very popular beach club with her new partner and their kids.
I heard this from family and friends who are president
the scene, although this incident was not talked about on
the news. They caught him at his parents' house in
Tuscany while he was trying to run. He had his
passport and a bunch of money. He never confessed to
the murder, but was convicted and is now in jail
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for the rest of his life. The thing that bothers
me most about this story, other than the fact that
he touched me with the same hands that he had
killed a woman with, is that this doctor had publicly
campaigned for many years against jealousy killings of women by
their male partners, and even organized a series of fund
raising events to raise awareness on the issue. What I
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hope this makes it through to you. I love you guys.
You're the best at what you do, and you've opened
my eyes about the dangers around us, especially women. Bye
cs she her.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Wow, talk about a wolf in Shoop's clothing, right, So
a doctor.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Like, yeah, just a community pillar.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, just horrifying. Yep.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It could be anyone could be anyone with uncontrollable rage
issues that they don't think that they have to ever
work on or get under control.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Narcissism. Okay, this one's called murderer in the family. Hello,
ladies and assorted pets. I'm a newer listener to the podcast.
Shout out to my therapist. For recommending it Inside Job
and Inside Job and started listening from the beginning. I'm
currently on episode one hundred and fourteen. I was going
to write to you about my hometown murder, thirteen year
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old Eric Smith who murdered four year old Derek Robbie. Yeah,
but I'm pretty sure you already covered it in one
of your early episodes. I don't think we ever covered
that one, did you know?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Maybe because he I think, wasn't he like one of
the youngest murderers ever to be sentenced or something? That
was the kid with the red hair, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Then I did cover it. So instead, I figured I'd
tell you about my grandfather's brother who murdered two people
back in the sixties, and then it says I'm pretty
sure that's when it happened. I learned all of this
from my dad, because my grandpa doesn't talk much about
his family. I wonder why. But apparently my great uncle
went through a very bad drug addiction and ended up
killing two separate people and stealing their cars to sell
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for drug money. The saddest part about the whole story
is that one of the men my uncle killed was
on his way to the hospital to meet his sixth child,
who was born that morning. I was able to find
more information on his crimes in a memoir of one
of his arresting officer's life and says, crazy to think
that my family member's crime stuck with this officer enough
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for him to put it in the book. My uncle
was eventually caught and sentenced to prison. He did his time,
and then lived out the rest of his life as
a law abiding citizen. I met him once before he died,
and I remembering shocked that he was the murder in
the family. I definitely would have put my money on
a few other family members. Thank you so much for
your podcast. It makes me feel more normal for being
obsessed with true crime SSDGM Kirsten.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, that feels extra tragic that they could have just
stolen the cars and gotten the same thing, Right, Why
didn't you have to kill people just take the thing
that you need to totally translate into drug money or whatever. Like,
just senseless killing on the way is horrifying.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And then someone you know and know related to that
just feels so unsettling.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, all right, well, the subject line of this email
is shit my murdering. No Grandma says and then in
parentheses it says quick and easy, which really suaded me.
And then it just starts, I don't have a cute greeting,
so I'll just use my go to from when I
encounter someone I haven't seen in years in the grocery
store and say, hey, how's it going? Keep moving. My
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family loves to keep secrets, so unfortunately this email contains none.
Please give me your tips for cracking withholding family members
exclamation point, get.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Them drunk exactly alcohol.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And then it says I grew up as a third
generation Sacramentine and then in parentheses it just has a
question mark and had literally never even heard about the
Easterea rapist until the first episode of your podcast WHOA,
But it explains a lot. My grandma Jean, who we
call Grammy, was in her forties with a teenage daughter
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at home when the Easter Aia rapist was committing his
awful crimes. To this day, Grammy's incredibly vigilant about personal safety.
Locks her car doors immediately after getting in, checks the
stopper and the sliding door every night, sets her house
alarm every single time she leaves or goes to bed.
That's pretty standard if you're not doing that. Yeah, get
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on Grammy's level right now. You should be doing all
those things.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Plus, when my papa passed away, she strongly suggested that
their longtime neighbor would need to house it during the
funeral because someone may see in the paper when the
funeral service was, and, knowing that no one would be home,
would use that opportunity to rob the house. She's on
It's right, that's a thing. She's on it. Growing up
ten minutes from Grammy, her cautious habits and urgings no
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doubt played into my murdering no origin story, but she
is also borderline Batchett in plenty of other ways. Once
I was spending the night on her couch and we
were gathering betting for me to use. Needing a blanket,
I pointed to a plush blue one in the closet,
still in its packaging, and suggested, what about this one?
She tells me no, because she hasn't decided if she
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wants to be buried with that one. Yes, yes, that's right.
Grammy bought a blanket from Costco with the intention of
taking it to the Great what wow, Yes, yeah, letter
if she wants to sure this had to have been
five years ago. Go now, and contrary to what she's
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always telling me, she's still with us at ninety two
years old. Ugh, I'll have to check back in to
see if she's made a decision on that blanket or
if it's up for grabs. Now, stay sexy and make
sure your grandma doesn't want to be buried with that
blanket before you borrow it. Jay, she her.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Oh my god. They say the court is all an
adrenaline from constant fear of true crime. We'll take you early.
But clearly this hasn't. It's keeping her alive.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Not the case for Grammy, not at all.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
And also I think that's a really interesting point because
you know, there's people who like us, who elect to
involve ourselves in true crime. But then Grammy was forced
into it because there was an active, like uncaught serial
rapist in her neighborhood and she had to get real
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super quick. And I think that's like over the years,
it's almost like more and more the murderinos show up
because of the experiences they've had and the things that
they have gone through and seen for themselves, where it's
like there's no benefit to leaving your sliding glass door unlocked.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It, and we've been hearing for years. We never thought
it would happen in our neighborhood. No one locked the doors.
It's like, let's stop with that. You know, we've learned
from that.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Right, let us lecture you, if only just for the
one person that locks the door when they should.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, okay, it's called a search party for me. You
shouldn't have Hi mfm rs and which looks like motherfucker,
like a shortened motherfucker's, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah. I don't have a murder story, but I do
have an I was a dumb kids story question mark.
So when I was around five years old, I went missing,
kind of My parents and siblings couldn't find me. They
yelled in the house and I didn't respond. I looked
all over the house and yard and still no Lindsey.
So they started looking around the neighborhood. They were going
door to door and had all the neighbors out looking
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as well. Eventually the police were called and they were
added to the search. No one could find me anywhere,
and my parents were panicking. Oh that feeling, Oh that's
every parent's nightmare. Nightmare. After a couple hours of looking,
my mom went to my bedroom and laid on the
floor and cried. She opened her eyes and there I
was under the bunk bed that I shared with my
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younger sister, looking at her with my big eyes. When
my parents and the police asked why I was under there,
I told them I was playing a game. And when
they asked why I didn't respond to the yelling, I
only told them I didn't know. I don't remember the
incident much, but I will always vividly remember the view
of my mom sobbing on the bedroom floor while thinking
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she lost a child.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I wasn't in trouble after, but I was forced to
sit with my mom for a while on her rocking
chair instead of being able to go play. Stay sexy
and don't scare the shit out of your parents for
no reason, Lindsey. I remember one time I like stayed
out all night when I was like thirteen or fourteen,
like on drugs, and like they knew I was on drugs,
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and so they like called my parents had called the police.
The police are looking for me, and my brother later
told me that he heard my dad's sobbing in the bathroom,
which is like making your parents sob is the worst feeling.
And I definitely like changed my act after that.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You know, that kind of pierced through the haze of
like I'm trying to be cool.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Right, rebellion and shit, it was like, oh, that's not
fun for anyone.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yes, but on behalf of Little Georgia, I would just
like to say, then, don't make me walk home from
kindergarten by myself. Residual trauma, it's all around us. Make
a podcast about it. That's another fun family one. Won't
we redo the subject line? It just says, dear all,
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I hope this story is in line with the minisodes theme.
I'm at the point where you're accepting Rabi's related to me.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I love those I love when they tell us what
we're now accepting in a way that's like you won't
believe this.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But it also sounds like something I would say if
I was sick of it were It's like, look, I'm
at the point where we're accepting Raby's related stories, Like
this is insanity. That's how it reads to me in
my head. They're just actually saying, yeah, I'm just at
the rabies section. Back half of that is so I
can only imagine what kind of stories you're getting nowadays. Anyway,
I love my family and we are all happy and
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successful in our own ways, but we've never done anything
remarkable enough to be newsworthy. We don't have any champion
athletes or award winning scientists or anything like that, which
is why I was so excited to find out, after
twenty six years of living with my family that we
do have a record setter in the family. That's right,
my mom's cousin set the national record for bank robberies
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with a wopping twenty seven banks robbed throughout Portugal.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Holy shit, that's a yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I was obviously super excited about this and mad that
I wasn't the only one who had no idea that
this cousin even existed, so I dug a bit deeper.
It turns out his name is Manuel Samois, but he
was known by the media as the Portuguese loaner. He
robbed between twenty seven and twenty nine banks. Some articles differ,
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so I'm not sure which one's true between nineteen ninety
eight and two thousand, accumulating about five one hundred thousand euros. However,
all articles also mentioned that he was terrified while doing
these robberies, often shaking while pointing a gun people no,
and even cried once in front of an employee.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Oh my god, how confusing.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I don't know how to feel right now. No. Apparently
he had a successful business in France, but according to
my mom, got involved with a shady Italian if only,
and became seriously in debt. He was only arrested because
he tried to rob the same bank a second time
and was recognized, so he was like just under pressure.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, he was actually nervous because he didn't want to
be doing this thing, but he had to.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
But he had to twenty seven times. That's a lot
of debt, so much debt. Okay, but wait, he managed
to break another record after that, as the first person
to escape from the prison. He was sent to oh Okay,
only to be caught again five months later. I never
knew this cousin, but my mom and uncle say he
was a really nice guy and just a normal dude.
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Although my uncle once illegally crossed two borders and then
it says Spain in France in parentheses because he didn't
have his passport when they were about to leave, and
this cousin said, no worries, just hide under these blankets
in the back of the car.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's like a drive in theater. It's not that you can't.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, yeah, I was so blown away by this information
that I had to tell everyone I knew right away interestingly,
and I swear this is true. Days later, I was
telling this story to a friend and after I finished,
she said, I'm pretty sure I have an aunt who
got robbed by a man around that time while she
was working in a bank here in Lisbon. We immediately
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checked with her mom and the story track shut up.
My cousin robbed her aunt, and now we're close friends.
Reverse karma. I guess. Sorry for the long story. I
had to share this with you. I love the podcast
and I can't wait to be up to date on
the episodes. SSDGM and cheers from Portugal.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Oh my god, Miguel, Miguel, Thank you, Miguel.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
That was a great email. That was everything we want
and with Kismet at the end.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You Kismet. It would have been great if it was
a meet cute just saying I mean, it had all
the elements, it had everything we needed. Okay, my last
one's called hidden treasure. You love it? Hi, MFM crew.
I'll try to keep this short and sweet and hopes
it gets picked. I've written in a few times with
a longer story, so hopefully you two can squeeze in
this feel good treasure story good selling. When I was
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in my early twenties, my then boyfriend and I were
headed north from Seattle, Washington, where we lived, to Bellingham,
Washington to spend a long weekend with friends. He was
driving my little tin can of a used car while
I played DJ in the passenger seat. We were almost
to our destination when suddenly we heard that stomach drop
and whoop of a police car behind us, and then,
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in parentheses, says, going eighty five and a sixty is
frowned upon, I guess. We pulled off to the side
of the road and await what's next? We got the
usual do you know why I stopped? You, young man talk?
And then he proceeded to ask for licensed registration and insurance.
My boyfriend hands over his ID, and me, being the unorganized,
carefree girl that I was at the time, thinks, shit,
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I'm rifling through my glovebox, center console under seats nothing.
It says, irresponsible I know, with a pile of old
male loose papers and god knows what else plopped in
my lap, I have to lean forward and tell the
officer I don't have the dog documentation he's requesting. He
hands us a hefty ticket, and as we pull away,
I burst into tears. I had no idea on earth
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how this broke ass. Twenty two year old living in
an overpriced Seattle apartment was going to pay the man.
I collect myself and begin going through the pile of
randomness on my lap. I come across a plane unsealed
white envelope. I open her up, and right there before
my eyes is nine perfectly crisp one hundred dollars bills.
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What it says, wtf.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Is this yours?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I asked my boyfriend. Neither one of us had any
clue how or why this amount of money was hidden
away amongst the rest of the papers. I had purchased
the car many months prior, and all I could think
was that possibly the previous owner left it behind accidentally
and I found it when I needed it the most.
Or I am a sleepwalking cash stashing freak. We'll never know.
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Let's just say that ticket got paid with to spare,
stay sexy, and always know where your car registration is,
or don't because you just might find some hidden treasure
Melanie and then says PSD, ladies are my fav Thank
you for all you do and for keeping me sane
and entertained through this crazy thing we call life. Part emoji.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, you're welcome, Melanie. It's our pleasure. But never in
a million years would I've used that nine hundred dollars
cash to pay that ticket. No, no way.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well you get out of it somehow, right, But if
you need the money, if you're gonna get the ticket,
you're gonna get the ticket.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
True. I'm just saying very viscerally felt Melanie's description of
the inside of her car, And I'm like, I've kind
of been that girl for a very long time, and
you basically you get these huge life lessons of like, see,
now you have this ticket, Now stop being irresponsible, Now
get your shit together, And then you find an envelope
of cash and you're like, not today, a motherfucker, I'll
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learn that lesson another time.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Someone's telling you otherwise, it sounds.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Like we need to go to TG Friday.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
All right, Well, thanks for writing into those people. Who
wrote in, and thanks for listening to you who listened.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yes, we appreciate you. And if you have a story
about rabies or anything else, please write to my favorite
Murder gmail dot com and stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Get it back Elvis, Do you want a cookie?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
On the next season of tenfold More Wicked, a long
time listener reaches out with a tragic family story that's
been passed down through the centuries.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
My first name is Carrie, my last name is Nulty Nolte,
and I am a descendant of Rebecca Briggs murder victim.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
About an English Puritan separatist fleeing religious persecution who arrives
in colonial New England to face an even greater danger.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
You do get these kind of instances where families kind
of turn on themselves and any member can kill anyone else,
why it does spill over into violence.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Rebecca Briggs Cornell survives the harsh landscape of the early Colonies,
the sudden loss of her husband and a horrifying massacre,
only to be found burned to death in her own home.
But was it an accident or was it murder?
Speaker 5 (21:24):
I think that she was stabbed. I think he set
her on fire to cover up the wound.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
A harrowing historical true crime that takes a turn toward
the supernatural.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
He opens his eyes and he sees his sister kind
of bathed in an ethereal light, and she says, look,
how I am burned with fire.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I'm Kate Winkler Dawson and this is season eleven of
tenfold More Wicked. Join us as we uncover the details
of a murder investigation from a time when belief in
the spirit world was commonplace.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
They were burning witches ninety miles away, and the entire
population believed in the supernatural.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
And when folklore was trusted as fact.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
There is something called cruentation, and what that is is
the belief that the body will tell when the murderer
is near.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
In a time when a ghostly vision could be used
as testimony to break a murder case wide open penpointing
the alleged killer for who he truly is a member
of the family. Season eleven of Tinfold More Wicked premieres
April first on Exactly Right. New episodes out every Monday.
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Listen and follow temfold More Wicked on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
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This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Our editor is Aristotle Oscevedo.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
This episode was mixed by Leona Squalacci.
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Goodbye,
Do you love historic true crime, Well, we've got good
news for you. Season eleven of Kate Winkler Dawson's hit
podcast Tenfold More Wicked, premieres today, April first, right here
on exactly Right.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
If you don't know Kate, she's a true crime journalist
and author who also hosts Buried Bones with Paul Hols.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
This season of tenfold More Wicked, titled Fire and Brimstone,
is about the death of a Puritan separatist in colonial
New England, twenty years before the Salem Witch Trials.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Kate joins a listener whose distant relative was killed in Portsmouth,
Rhode Island, and together they investigate the life of Rebecca
Briggs and uncover the supernatural lore surrounding her death.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Stay tuned at the end of this episode and listen
to the trailer for the newest season of tenfold More Wicked.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And don't forget to follow, rate and review the show
wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Goodbye, hello, and welcome to my favorite murder the minisodes.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You've sent these stories into us, so we've chosen to
read them.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, we want to share your stories with the world.
No secrets, no gatekeeping.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Want me to go first. Sure, Okay, this one is
quite something. I'm not going to read you the subject line,
so it starts Hello, girlies and pets. I've been listening
to years of MFM in the last few months since
I found you, and I'm finally mostly caught up. I've
been hesitant, but this story is too good not to share,
so here it is. A few years ago, while I
(01:38):
was going through architecture school in the US, I visited
home and then in parentheses it says small town on
the coast of Italy. Oh what a drag. Wow. Architecture
school was so stressful that I was losing the will
to live, lost a lot of weight, even my hair gasp.
So my sweet mom decided to take me to our
family's dermatologist, who had known me since I was a child.
(02:00):
During that visit, the doctor and my mom caught each
other up on their lives like old friends do, and
he told us he was going through a divorce. I
remember feeling sad for his family. We knew his wife
and they had three small children as well. He then
went on with the visit and proceeded to pull on
my hair to do a test to see if I
was just being dramatic and then decided that I was
just very stressed and needed to chill out for my
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hair to stop falling out. And then it just says
eye rol. Fast forward to a few months later. I'm
back in the US at school. My mom calls me
one day and shakily tells me to look up our
dermatologist online. Remember that during the visit he told us
about his divorce. Well, this piece of shit had lured
his wife into their family's villa under false pretenses of
(02:44):
having to discuss the sale of some art in their collection.
And then a parentheses says, yes, wealthy people's problems, and
then it says, but what he actually was there to
do was beat her to death. They found her body
mostly naked, and the police implied that he had sexually
assaulted her as well. I also found out later that
not long before murdering her, he had physically attacked his
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then ex wife in public while she was at a
very popular beach club with her new partner and their kids.
I heard this from family and friends who are president
the scene, although this incident was not talked about on
the news. They caught him at his parents' house in
Tuscany while he was trying to run. He had his
passport and a bunch of money. He never confessed to
the murder, but was convicted and is now in jail
(03:29):
for the rest of his life. The thing that bothers
me most about this story, other than the fact that
he touched me with the same hands that he had
killed a woman with, is that this doctor had publicly
campaigned for many years against jealousy killings of women by
their male partners, and even organized a series of fund
raising events to raise awareness on the issue. What I
(03:51):
hope this makes it through to you. I love you guys.
You're the best at what you do, and you've opened
my eyes about the dangers around us, especially women. Bye
cs she her.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Wow, talk about a wolf in Shoop's clothing, right, So
a doctor.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Like, yeah, just a community pillar.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, just horrifying. Yep.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It could be anyone could be anyone with uncontrollable rage
issues that they don't think that they have to ever
work on or get under control.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Narcissism. Okay, this one's called murderer in the family. Hello,
ladies and assorted pets. I'm a newer listener to the podcast.
Shout out to my therapist. For recommending it Inside Job
and Inside Job and started listening from the beginning. I'm
currently on episode one hundred and fourteen. I was going
to write to you about my hometown murder, thirteen year
(04:45):
old Eric Smith who murdered four year old Derek Robbie. Yeah,
but I'm pretty sure you already covered it in one
of your early episodes. I don't think we ever covered
that one, did you know?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Maybe because he I think, wasn't he like one of
the youngest murderers ever to be sentenced or something? That
was the kid with the red hair, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Then I did cover it. So instead, I figured I'd
tell you about my grandfather's brother who murdered two people
back in the sixties, and then it says I'm pretty
sure that's when it happened. I learned all of this
from my dad, because my grandpa doesn't talk much about
his family. I wonder why. But apparently my great uncle
went through a very bad drug addiction and ended up
killing two separate people and stealing their cars to sell
(05:29):
for drug money. The saddest part about the whole story
is that one of the men my uncle killed was
on his way to the hospital to meet his sixth child,
who was born that morning. I was able to find
more information on his crimes in a memoir of one
of his arresting officer's life and says, crazy to think
that my family member's crime stuck with this officer enough
(05:50):
for him to put it in the book. My uncle
was eventually caught and sentenced to prison. He did his time,
and then lived out the rest of his life as
a law abiding citizen. I met him once before he died,
and I remembering shocked that he was the murder in
the family. I definitely would have put my money on
a few other family members. Thank you so much for
your podcast. It makes me feel more normal for being
obsessed with true crime SSDGM Kirsten.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, that feels extra tragic that they could have just
stolen the cars and gotten the same thing, Right, Why
didn't you have to kill people just take the thing
that you need to totally translate into drug money or whatever. Like,
just senseless killing on the way is horrifying.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And then someone you know and know related to that
just feels so unsettling.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, all right, well, the subject line of this email
is shit my murdering. No Grandma says and then in
parentheses it says quick and easy, which really suaded me.
And then it just starts, I don't have a cute greeting,
so I'll just use my go to from when I
encounter someone I haven't seen in years in the grocery
store and say, hey, how's it going? Keep moving. My
(07:01):
family loves to keep secrets, so unfortunately this email contains none.
Please give me your tips for cracking withholding family members
exclamation point, get.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Them drunk exactly alcohol.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And then it says I grew up as a third
generation Sacramentine and then in parentheses it just has a
question mark and had literally never even heard about the
Easterea rapist until the first episode of your podcast WHOA,
But it explains a lot. My grandma Jean, who we
call Grammy, was in her forties with a teenage daughter
(07:34):
at home when the Easter Aia rapist was committing his
awful crimes. To this day, Grammy's incredibly vigilant about personal safety.
Locks her car doors immediately after getting in, checks the
stopper and the sliding door every night, sets her house
alarm every single time she leaves or goes to bed.
That's pretty standard if you're not doing that. Yeah, get
(07:54):
on Grammy's level right now. You should be doing all
those things.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Plus, when my papa passed away, she strongly suggested that
their longtime neighbor would need to house it during the
funeral because someone may see in the paper when the
funeral service was, and, knowing that no one would be home,
would use that opportunity to rob the house. She's on
It's right, that's a thing. She's on it. Growing up
ten minutes from Grammy, her cautious habits and urgings no
(08:19):
doubt played into my murdering no origin story, but she
is also borderline Batchett in plenty of other ways. Once
I was spending the night on her couch and we
were gathering betting for me to use. Needing a blanket,
I pointed to a plush blue one in the closet,
still in its packaging, and suggested, what about this one?
She tells me no, because she hasn't decided if she
(08:39):
wants to be buried with that one. Yes, yes, that's right.
Grammy bought a blanket from Costco with the intention of
taking it to the Great what wow, Yes, yeah, letter
if she wants to sure this had to have been
five years ago. Go now, and contrary to what she's
(09:01):
always telling me, she's still with us at ninety two
years old. Ugh, I'll have to check back in to
see if she's made a decision on that blanket or
if it's up for grabs. Now, stay sexy and make
sure your grandma doesn't want to be buried with that
blanket before you borrow it. Jay, she her.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Oh my god. They say the court is all an
adrenaline from constant fear of true crime. We'll take you early.
But clearly this hasn't. It's keeping her alive.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Not the case for Grammy, not at all.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
And also I think that's a really interesting point because
you know, there's people who like us, who elect to
involve ourselves in true crime. But then Grammy was forced
into it because there was an active, like uncaught serial
rapist in her neighborhood and she had to get real
(09:54):
super quick. And I think that's like over the years,
it's almost like more and more the murderinos show up
because of the experiences they've had and the things that
they have gone through and seen for themselves, where it's
like there's no benefit to leaving your sliding glass door unlocked.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It, and we've been hearing for years. We never thought
it would happen in our neighborhood. No one locked the doors.
It's like, let's stop with that. You know, we've learned
from that.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Right, let us lecture you, if only just for the
one person that locks the door when they should.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, okay, it's called a search party for me. You
shouldn't have Hi mfm rs and which looks like motherfucker,
like a shortened motherfucker's, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah. I don't have a murder story, but I do
have an I was a dumb kids story question mark.
So when I was around five years old, I went missing,
kind of My parents and siblings couldn't find me. They
yelled in the house and I didn't respond. I looked
all over the house and yard and still no Lindsey.
So they started looking around the neighborhood. They were going
door to door and had all the neighbors out looking
(11:00):
as well. Eventually the police were called and they were
added to the search. No one could find me anywhere,
and my parents were panicking. Oh that feeling, Oh that's
every parent's nightmare. Nightmare. After a couple hours of looking,
my mom went to my bedroom and laid on the
floor and cried. She opened her eyes and there I
was under the bunk bed that I shared with my
(11:22):
younger sister, looking at her with my big eyes. When
my parents and the police asked why I was under there,
I told them I was playing a game. And when
they asked why I didn't respond to the yelling, I
only told them I didn't know. I don't remember the
incident much, but I will always vividly remember the view
of my mom sobbing on the bedroom floor while thinking
(11:44):
she lost a child.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I wasn't in trouble after, but I was forced to
sit with my mom for a while on her rocking
chair instead of being able to go play. Stay sexy
and don't scare the shit out of your parents for
no reason, Lindsey. I remember one time I like stayed
out all night when I was like thirteen or fourteen,
like on drugs, and like they knew I was on drugs,
(12:08):
and so they like called my parents had called the police.
The police are looking for me, and my brother later
told me that he heard my dad's sobbing in the bathroom,
which is like making your parents sob is the worst feeling.
And I definitely like changed my act after that.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You know, that kind of pierced through the haze of
like I'm trying to be cool.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Right, rebellion and shit, it was like, oh, that's not
fun for anyone.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yes, but on behalf of Little Georgia, I would just
like to say, then, don't make me walk home from
kindergarten by myself. Residual trauma, it's all around us. Make
a podcast about it. That's another fun family one. Won't
we redo the subject line? It just says, dear all,
(12:53):
I hope this story is in line with the minisodes theme.
I'm at the point where you're accepting Rabi's related to me.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I love those I love when they tell us what
we're now accepting in a way that's like you won't
believe this.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But it also sounds like something I would say if
I was sick of it were It's like, look, I'm
at the point where we're accepting Raby's related stories, Like
this is insanity. That's how it reads to me in
my head. They're just actually saying, yeah, I'm just at
the rabies section. Back half of that is so I
can only imagine what kind of stories you're getting nowadays. Anyway,
I love my family and we are all happy and
(13:29):
successful in our own ways, but we've never done anything
remarkable enough to be newsworthy. We don't have any champion
athletes or award winning scientists or anything like that, which
is why I was so excited to find out, after
twenty six years of living with my family that we
do have a record setter in the family. That's right,
my mom's cousin set the national record for bank robberies
(13:51):
with a wopping twenty seven banks robbed throughout Portugal.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Holy shit, that's a yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I was obviously super excited about this and mad that
I wasn't the only one who had no idea that
this cousin even existed, so I dug a bit deeper.
It turns out his name is Manuel Samois, but he
was known by the media as the Portuguese loaner. He
robbed between twenty seven and twenty nine banks. Some articles differ,
(14:20):
so I'm not sure which one's true between nineteen ninety
eight and two thousand, accumulating about five one hundred thousand euros. However,
all articles also mentioned that he was terrified while doing
these robberies, often shaking while pointing a gun people no,
and even cried once in front of an employee.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Oh my god, how confusing.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I don't know how to feel right now. No. Apparently
he had a successful business in France, but according to
my mom, got involved with a shady Italian if only,
and became seriously in debt. He was only arrested because
he tried to rob the same bank a second time
and was recognized, so he was like just under pressure.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, he was actually nervous because he didn't want to
be doing this thing, but he had to.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
But he had to twenty seven times. That's a lot
of debt, so much debt. Okay, but wait, he managed
to break another record after that, as the first person
to escape from the prison. He was sent to oh Okay,
only to be caught again five months later. I never
knew this cousin, but my mom and uncle say he
was a really nice guy and just a normal dude.
(15:34):
Although my uncle once illegally crossed two borders and then
it says Spain in France in parentheses because he didn't
have his passport when they were about to leave, and
this cousin said, no worries, just hide under these blankets
in the back of the car.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's like a drive in theater. It's not that you can't.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, yeah, I was so blown away by this information
that I had to tell everyone I knew right away interestingly,
and I swear this is true. Days later, I was
telling this story to a friend and after I finished,
she said, I'm pretty sure I have an aunt who
got robbed by a man around that time while she
was working in a bank here in Lisbon. We immediately
(16:13):
checked with her mom and the story track shut up.
My cousin robbed her aunt, and now we're close friends.
Reverse karma. I guess. Sorry for the long story. I
had to share this with you. I love the podcast
and I can't wait to be up to date on
the episodes. SSDGM and cheers from Portugal.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Oh my god, Miguel, Miguel, Thank you, Miguel.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
That was a great email. That was everything we want
and with Kismet at the end.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You Kismet. It would have been great if it was
a meet cute just saying I mean, it had all
the elements, it had everything we needed. Okay, my last
one's called hidden treasure. You love it? Hi, MFM crew.
I'll try to keep this short and sweet and hopes
it gets picked. I've written in a few times with
a longer story, so hopefully you two can squeeze in
this feel good treasure story good selling. When I was
(17:04):
in my early twenties, my then boyfriend and I were
headed north from Seattle, Washington, where we lived, to Bellingham,
Washington to spend a long weekend with friends. He was
driving my little tin can of a used car while
I played DJ in the passenger seat. We were almost
to our destination when suddenly we heard that stomach drop
and whoop of a police car behind us, and then,
(17:24):
in parentheses, says, going eighty five and a sixty is
frowned upon, I guess. We pulled off to the side
of the road and await what's next? We got the
usual do you know why I stopped? You, young man talk?
And then he proceeded to ask for licensed registration and insurance.
My boyfriend hands over his ID, and me, being the unorganized,
carefree girl that I was at the time, thinks, shit,
(17:46):
I'm rifling through my glovebox, center console under seats nothing.
It says, irresponsible I know, with a pile of old
male loose papers and god knows what else plopped in
my lap, I have to lean forward and tell the
officer I don't have the dog documentation he's requesting. He
hands us a hefty ticket, and as we pull away,
I burst into tears. I had no idea on earth
(18:09):
how this broke ass. Twenty two year old living in
an overpriced Seattle apartment was going to pay the man.
I collect myself and begin going through the pile of
randomness on my lap. I come across a plane unsealed
white envelope. I open her up, and right there before
my eyes is nine perfectly crisp one hundred dollars bills.
(18:31):
What it says, wtf.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Is this yours?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I asked my boyfriend. Neither one of us had any
clue how or why this amount of money was hidden
away amongst the rest of the papers. I had purchased
the car many months prior, and all I could think
was that possibly the previous owner left it behind accidentally
and I found it when I needed it the most.
Or I am a sleepwalking cash stashing freak. We'll never know.
(18:58):
Let's just say that ticket got paid with to spare,
stay sexy, and always know where your car registration is,
or don't because you just might find some hidden treasure
Melanie and then says PSD, ladies are my fav Thank
you for all you do and for keeping me sane
and entertained through this crazy thing we call life. Part emoji.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, you're welcome, Melanie. It's our pleasure. But never in
a million years would I've used that nine hundred dollars
cash to pay that ticket. No, no way.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well you get out of it somehow, right, But if
you need the money, if you're gonna get the ticket,
you're gonna get the ticket.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
True. I'm just saying very viscerally felt Melanie's description of
the inside of her car, And I'm like, I've kind
of been that girl for a very long time, and
you basically you get these huge life lessons of like, see,
now you have this ticket, Now stop being irresponsible, Now
get your shit together, And then you find an envelope
of cash and you're like, not today, a motherfucker, I'll
(19:53):
learn that lesson another time.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Someone's telling you otherwise, it sounds.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Like we need to go to TG Friday.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
All right, Well, thanks for writing into those people. Who
wrote in, and thanks for listening to you who listened.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yes, we appreciate you. And if you have a story
about rabies or anything else, please write to my favorite
Murder gmail dot com and stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Get it back Elvis, Do you want a cookie?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
On the next season of tenfold More Wicked, a long
time listener reaches out with a tragic family story that's
been passed down through the centuries.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
My first name is Carrie, my last name is Nulty Nolte,
and I am a descendant of Rebecca Briggs murder victim.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
About an English Puritan separatist fleeing religious persecution who arrives
in colonial New England to face an even greater danger.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
You do get these kind of instances where families kind
of turn on themselves and any member can kill anyone else,
why it does spill over into violence.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Rebecca Briggs Cornell survives the harsh landscape of the early Colonies,
the sudden loss of her husband and a horrifying massacre,
only to be found burned to death in her own home.
But was it an accident or was it murder?
Speaker 5 (21:24):
I think that she was stabbed. I think he set
her on fire to cover up the wound.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
A harrowing historical true crime that takes a turn toward
the supernatural.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
He opens his eyes and he sees his sister kind
of bathed in an ethereal light, and she says, look,
how I am burned with fire.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I'm Kate Winkler Dawson and this is season eleven of
tenfold More Wicked. Join us as we uncover the details
of a murder investigation from a time when belief in
the spirit world was commonplace.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
They were burning witches ninety miles away, and the entire
population believed in the supernatural.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
And when folklore was trusted as fact.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
There is something called cruentation, and what that is is
the belief that the body will tell when the murderer
is near.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
In a time when a ghostly vision could be used
as testimony to break a murder case wide open penpointing
the alleged killer for who he truly is a member
of the family. Season eleven of Tinfold More Wicked premieres
April first on Exactly Right. New episodes out every Monday.
(22:42):
Listen and follow temfold More Wicked on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Our editor is Aristotle Oscevedo.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
This episode was mixed by Leona Squalacci.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Emailing your hometowns to My Favorite Murder at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And follow a show on Instagram and Facebook at my
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Goodbye,
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