June 3, 2024 • 20 mins
This week’s hometowns include the I-70 Killer and a badass mom from Brooklyn.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Nay Hell, Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder the minisode.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh my god, here it is. It's so different, it's
so cute.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
You wanna go first? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Okay, I have a classic hometown for you.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Okay, great.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's called My Mom's I seventy Killer Connection. M Dear,
Karen Georgia and MFM crew, longtime listener, first time writer.
You told us to ask about stories during Thanksgiving, and
my god, the one I got from my mom was
an absolute chilling one and I didn't even technically ask
for it. I live in Kansas, and we surprisingly have
a handful of notorious murders that took place here, the
(00:53):
most well known of which is probably BTK, but there's
also Richard Dugene Hitchcock in Cold Blood, and of course
the Bloody Benders. There's also the unsolved murders perpetrated by
the I seventy Killer, which is what my story is about.
In nineteen ninety two, my mom, two years before she
was my mother, was working at a bridal store in Wichita, Kansas.
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Her store had two others in town that were part
of a small franchise, one of which was known as
Le Bride, which is such a classic small town bride store.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yep, it's like you're getting married in France, oh my.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
God, but in Wichita. My mom loved this job and
she appreciated all that she learned from the two women
in charge. On a Friday night in April, a little
while after closing, my mom was at Labride helping the
owner die shoes. The next night, April eleventh, the owner,
Patricia Makers, and an employee, Patricia Smith, had to stay
late once more because a customer was coming by to
(01:46):
pick up his commerbund. A man approached a store, and,
assuming it was this customer, he was let in. Unfortunately,
this was not the man they had been expecting, but
instead the I seventy killer. He took both women to
the back of the store and shot them execution style.
Shortly after this, the actual customer did arrive and had
(02:07):
a brief interaction with the killer, but was able to
leave and provide police with a physical description. I wonder
how they figured out it was that the same killer.
It must be the description right.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And security footage or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Maybe it was the nineties. Yeah, Both of these women
and the killers other victims had long, curly, dark hair
as did my mom. The possibility that it could have
been her if she had decided to help out on
Saturday instead of Friday, or if he had entered the
store just twenty four hours earlier, chills me to the bone.
Even still, the story is devastating and the deaths are senseless.
(02:39):
It's been thirty one years since the crimes of the
I seventy killer, and though the case is cold, it's
not closed. Police departments in Kansas, Missouri, and Indiana are
still hoping it may be solved one day, possibly with
the help of new DNA technology. If this does get
run on your podcast, I urge anyone that might have
seen or heard anything related to these crimes to call
crime stoppers in any of these three states. Thank you
(03:03):
for everything you do. I could gush about you too forever,
but this is long enough as it is. Just know
that I'm a huge fan and if I ever get
the chance to meet you, I will cry tears of joy,
stay sexy, and seek justice.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Hannah, Hannah, how is that not solved? Well? Do you
think it's because it's along a highway? The way that
it happens where it's like interstate The crimes don't get
reported from state to state.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But also like DNA, I'm always like, use the DNA,
but like I never think about the path. It's like
maybe there isn't DNA left, you know, or isn't usable DNA.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
But right sucks And it's just early enough if it's
the nineties before there's real process set up for that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Totally yeah, so crazy, all right.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
The subject line of this email is anecdotes about Yon
Baselrude from a local So I told the story of
that he was the Norwegian soldier who basically survived the
Nazis chasing him. Yes, and it's that amazing story. So Hi,
Georgia and Karen. Longtime listener, thank you all for every episode.
I loved listening to Karen's telling of the Yan balls
(04:11):
Rudd survival. That's how you're supposed to pronounce it. My
family lives in one of the villages described, and last
summer we hiked to the hole where Yan was hidden
by Norwegians from the Nazis. It said that local sheep
herders and reindeer herders knew about this cave from their
grazing and movement of animals during the war. My family's
(04:32):
town was occupied by Germans, and my grandpa, then a teenager,
and his large family were kicked out of their home
so that the Nazi occupiers could use their home as
a holding place for animals. Removed from the only home
they ever knew, my grandpa and his brother took a
boat to a nearby island, where my grandpa entered the
island's only town store to ask to use the phone
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so that he could attempt to contact and reconnect with
dispersed family. The young girl behind the counter at the
store was my grandma, who ignored her boss rudely, whispering
loudly just make sure he pays, and shared the phone
with my grandpa. That was how they met and fell
in love.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh my god, come on.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
My grandma used to tell me stories about local Norwegians
who would hide and protect German deserters who had fled
the military and were attempting to remove themselves from the war.
One neighbor hid a German deserting soldier in her barn
from the German troops and gave him warm wall socks
for his journey on. Only after he left, she realized
that the initials of her husband had been sewn into
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the socks, leading to much fear of retribution. Another Norwegian
neighbor I grew up with my grandmother's age had a
love affair with a German occupying soldier a Nazi during
the war, and after the occupation her head was shaved
to shame her for her dalliance with a Nazi. I
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hope you found these anecdotes interesting. Thanks for all that
you do, ingrid Ingrit.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Oh my gosh, no way, what a fascinating little snapshot
of time.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And basically survivors stories of a situation, like just the
idea that everyone in that time had to go into
that survival mode and do what they needed to do.
So crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Okay, this one is a PSA, big time bank scam.
Oh dearest MFM family, longtime listener, first time mailer. After
listening to the PSA about scammers in Minnesota three eighty three,
I had to write in and share my experience of
being scammed in March twenty twenty four. So that just happened.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I like this.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah. First, let me say I never answered the phone
for an unknown number. Ever, Well, on this fateful day,
I broke with tradition. I googled the number that was
calling and saw that it was my bank, so I
answered to see what was up, so like due diligence,
Yeah done, it says it's your RC.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Non enough.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The woman on the phone asked if I had been
making purchases in Atlanta, Georgia, and I assured her I
did not. I was currently at a conference in Utah.
She said these purchases must have been fraudulent and she
was going to close my card and issue a new one.
It's in like a normal procedure for when fraud happens.
In order to confirm my identity, she sent me a
pass code that I had to read back to her.
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I gave her the code and she let me know
she would take care of the situation right away. Little
did I know, there were no fraudulent purchases in Atlanta.
Several hours later, I received another call from my bank.
This time it was my real bank and they were
calling to let me know that I had been scammed.
The scammers from the morning had to use that magic
passcode to reset the password on my account. You don't
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you have to reset a password, And it's like, okay,
we're going to send the phone number that we knows
associated to your account. This code, I think that's just
what they did.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, they were like they middlemanned that code process. Oh god.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Then they broke in and placed two wire transfers totally
nine hundred and forty eight dollar to their bank account
in Florida. It says in today's money, that's.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Forty eight dollars. In today's money, that is a shit
ton of cash.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah. My bank tried their darnedist and says he says sarcastically,
to get the money back, but the scammers had already
moved it to yet another account. So my bank simply
shrugged their shoulders and said there's nothing they could do.
To add insult to injury. I requested that the bank
ensure the money that was stolen, and they said no.
They claimed that I gave the scammers permission to access
(08:30):
my account and so the transaction was authorized. Wow, it
says the audacity. This is a major national bank, by
the way. Needless to say, I was livid. I'm a
true crime fiend, and I thought I would always see
this kind of con coming from miles away. Yet here
we are almost ten fucking grand is just like gone.
The banks that go fuck yourself, It's gone.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Well, of course there, because they're the ones that would
have to pay it back, right, So that's when you
close your account and you go to your city bank
that's funded in your city or credit union. Yeah, take
it elsewhere. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I hope this cautionary tale keeps listeners on the lookout
for bank fraud. If you ever get a suspicious call,
hang up and call the company back. I learned that
I should have done that after the fact. Stay sexy
and never answer the phone. Brett Key him.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Right, You're so right, it's so true. Don't answer the phone.
There's no what's the benefit. When's the last time you've
answered the phone? And it's like this, this is exactly
what I wanted to happen an more.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
In today's day and age. It's just there's no reason
to answer the phone.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Also, these scams like people are it's so goddamn sophisticated.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
But that's not that's the least sophisticated scam. How except
for the fact that the phone you could google it
back to the phone number, But how many people actually
googled it? Like do that? You know?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And I think what you just said is so smart,
which is if you are on the phone with somebody
that's like, you have to do five things right now? Yeah,
oh you have to go. I have to get off
the phone with you. I'm going to call you back
and see what they do. Yeah. Yeah, because they don't
want you to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
They're gonna start telling you that it's an emergency and
try to keep you on and like boom. It shouldn't
matter if you're going to hang up and call back
the number on your card. They shouldn't care.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
No, because any person helping you is just another person
at the customer service call center, right. They don't have
anything invested in how quickly you get it done. It's
your problem, not theirs. Totally. Fuck, I'm yelling at everyone
and that no one is around to hear it. Okay,
this is this satisfying answer email to that email. Okay,
(10:31):
it says my mom mugged her mugger and then it
says lighthearted in parentheses. Hi, Karen Georgian, MFM team. I
started listening to you guys a few years ago and
have desperately wanted to write in but could never think
of a story we're sharing until I remembered one of
my all time favorite stories about my Mom. I've sent
this in a couple times before, but last week you
asked for mom law, so I thought I would try
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my luck again. See that's the attitude we're looking for. Yep,
please just try again. So my family moved from Brooklyn
to Florida when I was really When I was about
nine years old, my mom took a trip back to
New York to visit some family. We'd lived in Florida
for a few years at this point, and my brother
and I asked our mom if she would get us
some new CBGB shirts. Kauzars were pretty worn out, and
(11:13):
for those who don't know, CBGB was a historic rock
club in NYC, a bit of a tourist trap at
that time, but cool. Nonetheless, evidently my mom was wearing
a Key West shirt while she was shopping there, so
she didn't necessarily give the immediate impression of someone who
was born and raised in Brooklyn. As soon as she
walked out of the store, she was mugged, well almost mugged.
(11:34):
Her attacker knocked her to the ground from behind, took
her purse and shopping bags, and took off immediately. My mother,
with her knees and palms bleeding, got up and chased
him down. I'm going to stop here and say, do
not do it, Do not do this, do not do this. Meanwhile,
here's a hilarious story of someone who did it. When
she caught up to him, she knocked him to the ground,
(11:56):
gave him a decent beating, took her ship back, and
then stole his cell phone.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Then she proceeded in all caps to call his mom
and tell her everything her son had just attempted to do.
After that, she took the time to call all of
our English and Irish relatives long distance charges were still
a thing at that time, and continued to make phone
calls until the phone eventually died. She kept that quote
unquote trophy in her stock drawer forever.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I'm obsessed with your mom.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, this is a woman who grew up in Brooklyn. Yes,
she is not fucking around.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
No, there's no She fucking mugged her mugger, She mugged
her mother, got one up on him.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, she's probably what the one percentile of stories that
it would go like this again, do not do this,
do it? My mom unfortunately passed away very suddenly five
years ago. I'd never listened to podcasts until then, and
you ladies provided much needed humor and company during the
darkest time in my life. For that, I can't thank
you enough. My mom wasn't much into podcasts or technology
(13:01):
of any kind really besides that guy's phone. But she
was an old school murderino and I know she would
have loved you guys. She was a total badass and
an amazing woman and I miss her every day. If
you're reading this story, know that I'm stuck in traffic
somewhere freaking out to be big app Thanks for your time,
stay sexy, and don't get mugged. But if you do,
(13:21):
tattle to their mom Noreene she heard.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Oh my god, Lourene, thank you for that incredible story.
I just hope you always know when, Noreene, whenever you
get into like a hard place in life where things
are rough, that's your mom. So you're gonna be fine.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
You have the DNA of a Brooklyn Warrior in deep
embedded in you. It doesn't have to be on all
the time. You don't need it to be on all
the time. She didn't just take her shit back.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
She I just I can't get over it.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
She called his mom.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
She called his mom. Oh my god, I'm gonna cry.
Here's my last one. This one's called the clown is down.
And then it's just too early for spooky Halloween stories.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Never, no, not in May.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's also not spooky, it's funny. It just starts. Hey,
picture it. It's Halloween nineteen ninety one. I had just
turned eight years old and was dressed and my sister's
hand me down clown costume. So it's not complaining that
shit was legit. I'm sure it was homemade and amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yes, my mom was taking my sister and I trick
or treating around the neighborhood with some other kids and
their parents. As happens in and then it's NEPA that
it says Scranton represent So I think it's northeast Pennsylvania,
which I didn't know how to fucking NEPA.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But no one's heard of that that isn't from there.
And then, but those will be the most aggressive people
being like, I can't believe you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Pronounced it Nepa Scranton represent. So as it happens in
fall Instagram, the sun was rapidly setting and it was
dark Not long after we started, all of us kids
were racing each other house to house, and I had
decided to run through a yah because it was a
more direct route to the next front door. Cut to
me being clotheslined flat onto my back, wind knocked out
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of me, and someone yelling all caps clown down, the
clown is down, clown down. Turns out the owner of
that home had put a wire up around his yard,
which was invisible in the dark and an eight year
old's neck height. He said he did it, quote so
the kids don't run through my yard.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You fucking psycho.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah. I ran full force into that wire, neck burst
while my mom laid into the guy. I laid on
the ground, gasping, trying to catch my breath.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I was subsequently dumped at a neighbor's house to recover,
while the rest of the kids loaded up on candy.
Stay sexy, and don't put a fucking booby trap up
for children, Kate, Elizabeth.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Jesus Christ, can you what the fuck? Also, what's in
your yard that's so goddamn preciates that you don't want
some kids on Halloween running through it?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Clotheslining is the worst.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
There's a similar story that my cousin tells all the
time where they were going to as a what they
believed to be a prank when when he was like thirteen,
they ran a wire across Bodega Avenue, which is essentially
the highway between Petaluma, the city an now where we lived,
and toward the ocean. People go ninety miles an hour.
And they hung it out there and then saw that
(16:27):
a motorcyclist. They just thought somebody would like snap it
with their truck and it would be like loud guys.
Whatever they were thinking, they see this motorcyclist coming and
they had to run to get it down before they
killed a person.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Oh my god, Like they.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Didn't think it all the way through until they put
it together and this this guy was coming.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh my god, thank god they got there in time.
Tell us you are the worst you ever got heard
as a kid's stories. I don't know if that's thing
we want go about your it almost really fucked up
bad stories.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, it could be bet or it could be psycho
neighbor stories. I don't think we've got a lot of those.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We've never done psycho neighbors. Let's do psycho neighbors.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, Okay, here's my last one. It's very enjoyable, and
it's kind of similar in terms of stupid high jinks. Okay,
and it starts Steer podcast Royalty. Oh oh my god.
In episode minisode three eighty three, you combined two conversations.
I knew I had a story for it happened long
(17:29):
before my son was born, so I may get a
factor two off, but this is how I remember it.
At a pub one night, my friend's girlfriend will call
her Jane. Drank too much before last call. Jane got
what she was sure was the best idea ever. She
made a plan to climb up into the vent, die
hard style, to hide until all the stuff were gone,
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and then she would right and then she would come out,
let us all back into the bar, and we would
continue the night.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, just that's a brain that's been stewed in alcohol
for like five hours.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm just imagining having to talk. I'm the not drunk
friend trying to talk that friend out of.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It, right, but their eyes are like gone from their brain,
so you can't connect me, and they just keep explaining
to you why it's such a grand idea. She went
into the woman's bathroom and saw the perfect vent jackpot.
Jane began to hoist herself up. However, unlike John mcclan's character,
this silver vent was being held up by a wire.
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Oh my god, she lifted herself up into the vent.
The entire roof around the vent collapsed and the jig
was yeah yeah. The bouncer ran in to see the fuss,
and Jane yelled that woman just tried to climb into
the roof. She ran that way and pointed out the door.
The bouncer turned around to follow the said other woman,
(18:54):
and Jane bolted. Needless to say, our night ended there. Okay,
she's so drunk she's going to climb into event, but
she's sober enough to think of that brilliant out so
it's like she's just careful of Jane. Yeah, and then
it just goes. I've been a listener since the beginning,
when I was postpartum with my first You got me
(19:15):
through postpartum depression and daycare drop off. Thank you for
normalizing store bought serotonin. Also note I used to daydream
about coming to a live show and hope one day
that you'll head back up north to Western Canada. Edmonton
specifically so I can attend and share all the Canadian candies.
Stay sexy, and don't trust the drunk girl. Asha she her.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Oh, conniving drunk girl. That's like the scariest.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, someone that's got a little bit of a scheme
in her brain.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Mischievous, mischievous. I think when you drink gold Schlager, I
think that's what it does to you.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
It brings out the evil plans, Yeah, which can.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Be fun about your evil plans. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Tell us about your bathroommind you no, no, cancel that.
Just stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Goodbye, Elvis, Do you want a cookie?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
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Speaker 2 (20:20):
Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Our editor is Aristotle Osceveto.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
This episode was mixed by Leona Squalacci.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh my god, here it is. It's so different, it's
so cute.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
You wanna go first? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Okay, I have a classic hometown for you.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Okay, great.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's called My Mom's I seventy Killer Connection. M Dear,
Karen Georgia and MFM crew, longtime listener, first time writer.
You told us to ask about stories during Thanksgiving, and
my god, the one I got from my mom was
an absolute chilling one and I didn't even technically ask
for it. I live in Kansas, and we surprisingly have
a handful of notorious murders that took place here, the
(00:53):
most well known of which is probably BTK, but there's
also Richard Dugene Hitchcock in Cold Blood, and of course
the Bloody Benders. There's also the unsolved murders perpetrated by
the I seventy Killer, which is what my story is about.
In nineteen ninety two, my mom, two years before she
was my mother, was working at a bridal store in Wichita, Kansas.
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Her store had two others in town that were part
of a small franchise, one of which was known as
Le Bride, which is such a classic small town bride store.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yep, it's like you're getting married in France, oh my.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
God, but in Wichita. My mom loved this job and
she appreciated all that she learned from the two women
in charge. On a Friday night in April, a little
while after closing, my mom was at Labride helping the
owner die shoes. The next night, April eleventh, the owner,
Patricia Makers, and an employee, Patricia Smith, had to stay
late once more because a customer was coming by to
(01:46):
pick up his commerbund. A man approached a store, and,
assuming it was this customer, he was let in. Unfortunately,
this was not the man they had been expecting, but
instead the I seventy killer. He took both women to
the back of the store and shot them execution style.
Shortly after this, the actual customer did arrive and had
(02:07):
a brief interaction with the killer, but was able to
leave and provide police with a physical description. I wonder
how they figured out it was that the same killer.
It must be the description right.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And security footage or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Maybe it was the nineties. Yeah, Both of these women
and the killers other victims had long, curly, dark hair
as did my mom. The possibility that it could have
been her if she had decided to help out on
Saturday instead of Friday, or if he had entered the
store just twenty four hours earlier, chills me to the bone.
Even still, the story is devastating and the deaths are senseless.
(02:39):
It's been thirty one years since the crimes of the
I seventy killer, and though the case is cold, it's
not closed. Police departments in Kansas, Missouri, and Indiana are
still hoping it may be solved one day, possibly with
the help of new DNA technology. If this does get
run on your podcast, I urge anyone that might have
seen or heard anything related to these crimes to call
crime stoppers in any of these three states. Thank you
(03:03):
for everything you do. I could gush about you too forever,
but this is long enough as it is. Just know
that I'm a huge fan and if I ever get
the chance to meet you, I will cry tears of joy,
stay sexy, and seek justice.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Hannah, Hannah, how is that not solved? Well? Do you
think it's because it's along a highway? The way that
it happens where it's like interstate The crimes don't get
reported from state to state.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But also like DNA, I'm always like, use the DNA,
but like I never think about the path. It's like
maybe there isn't DNA left, you know, or isn't usable DNA.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
But right sucks And it's just early enough if it's
the nineties before there's real process set up for that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Totally yeah, so crazy, all right.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
The subject line of this email is anecdotes about Yon
Baselrude from a local So I told the story of
that he was the Norwegian soldier who basically survived the
Nazis chasing him. Yes, and it's that amazing story. So Hi,
Georgia and Karen. Longtime listener, thank you all for every episode.
I loved listening to Karen's telling of the Yan balls
(04:11):
Rudd survival. That's how you're supposed to pronounce it. My
family lives in one of the villages described, and last
summer we hiked to the hole where Yan was hidden
by Norwegians from the Nazis. It said that local sheep
herders and reindeer herders knew about this cave from their
grazing and movement of animals during the war. My family's
(04:32):
town was occupied by Germans, and my grandpa, then a teenager,
and his large family were kicked out of their home
so that the Nazi occupiers could use their home as
a holding place for animals. Removed from the only home
they ever knew, my grandpa and his brother took a
boat to a nearby island, where my grandpa entered the
island's only town store to ask to use the phone
(04:54):
so that he could attempt to contact and reconnect with
dispersed family. The young girl behind the counter at the
store was my grandma, who ignored her boss rudely, whispering
loudly just make sure he pays, and shared the phone
with my grandpa. That was how they met and fell
in love.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh my god, come on.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
My grandma used to tell me stories about local Norwegians
who would hide and protect German deserters who had fled
the military and were attempting to remove themselves from the war.
One neighbor hid a German deserting soldier in her barn
from the German troops and gave him warm wall socks
for his journey on. Only after he left, she realized
that the initials of her husband had been sewn into
(05:33):
the socks, leading to much fear of retribution. Another Norwegian
neighbor I grew up with my grandmother's age had a
love affair with a German occupying soldier a Nazi during
the war, and after the occupation her head was shaved
to shame her for her dalliance with a Nazi. I
(05:54):
hope you found these anecdotes interesting. Thanks for all that
you do, ingrid Ingrit.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Oh my gosh, no way, what a fascinating little snapshot
of time.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And basically survivors stories of a situation, like just the
idea that everyone in that time had to go into
that survival mode and do what they needed to do.
So crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Okay, this one is a PSA, big time bank scam.
Oh dearest MFM family, longtime listener, first time mailer. After
listening to the PSA about scammers in Minnesota three eighty three,
I had to write in and share my experience of
being scammed in March twenty twenty four. So that just happened.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I like this.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah. First, let me say I never answered the phone
for an unknown number. Ever, Well, on this fateful day,
I broke with tradition. I googled the number that was
calling and saw that it was my bank, so I
answered to see what was up, so like due diligence,
Yeah done, it says it's your RC.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Non enough.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The woman on the phone asked if I had been
making purchases in Atlanta, Georgia, and I assured her I
did not. I was currently at a conference in Utah.
She said these purchases must have been fraudulent and she
was going to close my card and issue a new one.
It's in like a normal procedure for when fraud happens.
In order to confirm my identity, she sent me a
pass code that I had to read back to her.
(07:20):
I gave her the code and she let me know
she would take care of the situation right away. Little
did I know, there were no fraudulent purchases in Atlanta.
Several hours later, I received another call from my bank.
This time it was my real bank and they were
calling to let me know that I had been scammed.
The scammers from the morning had to use that magic
passcode to reset the password on my account. You don't
(07:41):
you have to reset a password, And it's like, okay,
we're going to send the phone number that we knows
associated to your account. This code, I think that's just
what they did.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, they were like they middlemanned that code process. Oh god.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Then they broke in and placed two wire transfers totally
nine hundred and forty eight dollar to their bank account
in Florida. It says in today's money, that's.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Forty eight dollars. In today's money, that is a shit
ton of cash.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah. My bank tried their darnedist and says he says sarcastically,
to get the money back, but the scammers had already
moved it to yet another account. So my bank simply
shrugged their shoulders and said there's nothing they could do.
To add insult to injury. I requested that the bank
ensure the money that was stolen, and they said no.
They claimed that I gave the scammers permission to access
(08:30):
my account and so the transaction was authorized. Wow, it
says the audacity. This is a major national bank, by
the way. Needless to say, I was livid. I'm a
true crime fiend, and I thought I would always see
this kind of con coming from miles away. Yet here
we are almost ten fucking grand is just like gone.
The banks that go fuck yourself, It's gone.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Well, of course there, because they're the ones that would
have to pay it back, right, So that's when you
close your account and you go to your city bank
that's funded in your city or credit union. Yeah, take
it elsewhere. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I hope this cautionary tale keeps listeners on the lookout
for bank fraud. If you ever get a suspicious call,
hang up and call the company back. I learned that
I should have done that after the fact. Stay sexy
and never answer the phone. Brett Key him.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Right, You're so right, it's so true. Don't answer the phone.
There's no what's the benefit. When's the last time you've
answered the phone? And it's like this, this is exactly
what I wanted to happen an more.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
In today's day and age. It's just there's no reason
to answer the phone.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Also, these scams like people are it's so goddamn sophisticated.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
But that's not that's the least sophisticated scam. How except
for the fact that the phone you could google it
back to the phone number, But how many people actually
googled it? Like do that? You know?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And I think what you just said is so smart,
which is if you are on the phone with somebody
that's like, you have to do five things right now? Yeah,
oh you have to go. I have to get off
the phone with you. I'm going to call you back
and see what they do. Yeah. Yeah, because they don't
want you to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
They're gonna start telling you that it's an emergency and
try to keep you on and like boom. It shouldn't
matter if you're going to hang up and call back
the number on your card. They shouldn't care.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
No, because any person helping you is just another person
at the customer service call center, right. They don't have
anything invested in how quickly you get it done. It's
your problem, not theirs. Totally. Fuck, I'm yelling at everyone
and that no one is around to hear it. Okay,
this is this satisfying answer email to that email. Okay,
(10:31):
it says my mom mugged her mugger and then it
says lighthearted in parentheses. Hi, Karen Georgian, MFM team. I
started listening to you guys a few years ago and
have desperately wanted to write in but could never think
of a story we're sharing until I remembered one of
my all time favorite stories about my Mom. I've sent
this in a couple times before, but last week you
asked for mom law, so I thought I would try
(10:52):
my luck again. See that's the attitude we're looking for. Yep,
please just try again. So my family moved from Brooklyn
to Florida when I was really When I was about
nine years old, my mom took a trip back to
New York to visit some family. We'd lived in Florida
for a few years at this point, and my brother
and I asked our mom if she would get us
some new CBGB shirts. Kauzars were pretty worn out, and
(11:13):
for those who don't know, CBGB was a historic rock
club in NYC, a bit of a tourist trap at
that time, but cool. Nonetheless, evidently my mom was wearing
a Key West shirt while she was shopping there, so
she didn't necessarily give the immediate impression of someone who
was born and raised in Brooklyn. As soon as she
walked out of the store, she was mugged, well almost mugged.
(11:34):
Her attacker knocked her to the ground from behind, took
her purse and shopping bags, and took off immediately. My mother,
with her knees and palms bleeding, got up and chased
him down. I'm going to stop here and say, do
not do it, Do not do this, do not do this. Meanwhile,
here's a hilarious story of someone who did it. When
she caught up to him, she knocked him to the ground,
(11:56):
gave him a decent beating, took her ship back, and
then stole his cell phone.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Then she proceeded in all caps to call his mom
and tell her everything her son had just attempted to do.
After that, she took the time to call all of
our English and Irish relatives long distance charges were still
a thing at that time, and continued to make phone
calls until the phone eventually died. She kept that quote
unquote trophy in her stock drawer forever.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I'm obsessed with your mom.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, this is a woman who grew up in Brooklyn. Yes,
she is not fucking around.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
No, there's no She fucking mugged her mugger, She mugged
her mother, got one up on him.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, she's probably what the one percentile of stories that
it would go like this again, do not do this,
do it? My mom unfortunately passed away very suddenly five
years ago. I'd never listened to podcasts until then, and
you ladies provided much needed humor and company during the
darkest time in my life. For that, I can't thank
you enough. My mom wasn't much into podcasts or technology
(13:01):
of any kind really besides that guy's phone. But she
was an old school murderino and I know she would
have loved you guys. She was a total badass and
an amazing woman and I miss her every day. If
you're reading this story, know that I'm stuck in traffic
somewhere freaking out to be big app Thanks for your time,
stay sexy, and don't get mugged. But if you do,
(13:21):
tattle to their mom Noreene she heard.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Oh my god, Lourene, thank you for that incredible story.
I just hope you always know when, Noreene, whenever you
get into like a hard place in life where things
are rough, that's your mom. So you're gonna be fine.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
You have the DNA of a Brooklyn Warrior in deep
embedded in you. It doesn't have to be on all
the time. You don't need it to be on all
the time. She didn't just take her shit back.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
She I just I can't get over it.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
She called his mom.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
She called his mom. Oh my god, I'm gonna cry.
Here's my last one. This one's called the clown is down.
And then it's just too early for spooky Halloween stories.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Never, no, not in May.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's also not spooky, it's funny. It just starts. Hey,
picture it. It's Halloween nineteen ninety one. I had just
turned eight years old and was dressed and my sister's
hand me down clown costume. So it's not complaining that
shit was legit. I'm sure it was homemade and amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yes, my mom was taking my sister and I trick
or treating around the neighborhood with some other kids and
their parents. As happens in and then it's NEPA that
it says Scranton represent So I think it's northeast Pennsylvania,
which I didn't know how to fucking NEPA.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But no one's heard of that that isn't from there.
And then, but those will be the most aggressive people
being like, I can't believe you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Pronounced it Nepa Scranton represent. So as it happens in
fall Instagram, the sun was rapidly setting and it was
dark Not long after we started, all of us kids
were racing each other house to house, and I had
decided to run through a yah because it was a
more direct route to the next front door. Cut to
me being clotheslined flat onto my back, wind knocked out
(15:08):
of me, and someone yelling all caps clown down, the
clown is down, clown down. Turns out the owner of
that home had put a wire up around his yard,
which was invisible in the dark and an eight year
old's neck height. He said he did it, quote so
the kids don't run through my yard.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You fucking psycho.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah. I ran full force into that wire, neck burst
while my mom laid into the guy. I laid on
the ground, gasping, trying to catch my breath.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I was subsequently dumped at a neighbor's house to recover,
while the rest of the kids loaded up on candy.
Stay sexy, and don't put a fucking booby trap up
for children, Kate, Elizabeth.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Jesus Christ, can you what the fuck? Also, what's in
your yard that's so goddamn preciates that you don't want
some kids on Halloween running through it?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Clotheslining is the worst.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
There's a similar story that my cousin tells all the
time where they were going to as a what they
believed to be a prank when when he was like thirteen,
they ran a wire across Bodega Avenue, which is essentially
the highway between Petaluma, the city an now where we lived,
and toward the ocean. People go ninety miles an hour.
And they hung it out there and then saw that
(16:27):
a motorcyclist. They just thought somebody would like snap it
with their truck and it would be like loud guys.
Whatever they were thinking, they see this motorcyclist coming and
they had to run to get it down before they
killed a person.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Oh my god, Like they.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Didn't think it all the way through until they put
it together and this this guy was coming.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh my god, thank god they got there in time.
Tell us you are the worst you ever got heard
as a kid's stories. I don't know if that's thing
we want go about your it almost really fucked up
bad stories.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, it could be bet or it could be psycho
neighbor stories. I don't think we've got a lot of those.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We've never done psycho neighbors. Let's do psycho neighbors.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, Okay, here's my last one. It's very enjoyable, and
it's kind of similar in terms of stupid high jinks. Okay,
and it starts Steer podcast Royalty. Oh oh my god.
In episode minisode three eighty three, you combined two conversations.
I knew I had a story for it happened long
(17:29):
before my son was born, so I may get a
factor two off, but this is how I remember it.
At a pub one night, my friend's girlfriend will call
her Jane. Drank too much before last call. Jane got
what she was sure was the best idea ever. She
made a plan to climb up into the vent, die
hard style, to hide until all the stuff were gone,
(17:51):
and then she would right and then she would come out,
let us all back into the bar, and we would
continue the night.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, just that's a brain that's been stewed in alcohol
for like five hours.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm just imagining having to talk. I'm the not drunk
friend trying to talk that friend out of.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It, right, but their eyes are like gone from their brain,
so you can't connect me, and they just keep explaining
to you why it's such a grand idea. She went
into the woman's bathroom and saw the perfect vent jackpot.
Jane began to hoist herself up. However, unlike John mcclan's character,
this silver vent was being held up by a wire.
(18:34):
Oh my god, she lifted herself up into the vent.
The entire roof around the vent collapsed and the jig
was yeah yeah. The bouncer ran in to see the fuss,
and Jane yelled that woman just tried to climb into
the roof. She ran that way and pointed out the door.
The bouncer turned around to follow the said other woman,
(18:54):
and Jane bolted. Needless to say, our night ended there. Okay,
she's so drunk she's going to climb into event, but
she's sober enough to think of that brilliant out so
it's like she's just careful of Jane. Yeah, and then
it just goes. I've been a listener since the beginning,
when I was postpartum with my first You got me
(19:15):
through postpartum depression and daycare drop off. Thank you for
normalizing store bought serotonin. Also note I used to daydream
about coming to a live show and hope one day
that you'll head back up north to Western Canada. Edmonton
specifically so I can attend and share all the Canadian candies.
Stay sexy, and don't trust the drunk girl. Asha she her.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Oh, conniving drunk girl. That's like the scariest.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, someone that's got a little bit of a scheme
in her brain.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Mischievous, mischievous. I think when you drink gold Schlager, I
think that's what it does to you.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
It brings out the evil plans, Yeah, which can.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Be fun about your evil plans. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Tell us about your bathroommind you no, no, cancel that.
Just stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Goodbye, Elvis, Do you want a cookie?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Our editor is Aristotle Osceveto.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
This episode was mixed by Leona Squalacci.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Emailing your hometowns to My Favorite Murder at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
And follow the show on Instagram and Facebook at my
Favorite Murder and on Twitter at my fath Murder. Goodbye,
Hosts And Creators
Georgia Hardstark
Karen Kilgariff
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