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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello and welcome my favorite murder.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That's George the minisode.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, yes, I forgot what we did. Hometown minie. That's Karen,
that's Georgia.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You know it's like, should we run you through it again.
We're gonna start.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
At the beginning. We're gonna read, We'll come to the end.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
This is our first video of the hometown in studio.
I mean, is it off zoom.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Take to take to your camera?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Is it? Could it be? I wonder I wore something
special for the occasion. Oh, Memi's shirt. It's me, It's
me Me, and it says bad bitch, bad bitch me.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Wait have you worn that one before?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I've worn the dot the cookie one? All right?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
You want to go first?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Sure? Hardcore classic comtown. This is called My dad was
a detective in the Crimes against Persons Unit. Classic hometown
with family connection. Three minute read. Okay, hey gang, I'm
a Day three listener, but an og Murderino and I
adore you all. Let's jump in in my hometown of
Fort Collins, Colorado. My dad was a detective in the
Crimes against Persons Unit, Murders, kidnapping, assaults, you name it.
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He responded to it I could write you a lot
of emails. I recently realized I've been professionally interrogated my
whole life. But he also let me read old case
files in middle school, so there were perks too. Onto
the story right late at night on September ninth, nineteen
ninety eight, the police were called about a domestic dispute
involving twenty three year old Nicole Holme and her boyfriend.
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Her boyfriend was arrested for an outstanding traffic violation. Nicole
didn't have a working phone and went knocking on doors
at her apartment complex for a phone to contact help
to bail her boyfriend out of jail. While doing so,
Nicole encountered twenty five year old Tibbis Kennep. The two
were seen together at a convenience store where Nicole may
have gone for help. That evening, Nicole was found brutally attacked,
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sexually assaulted, stabbed, and murdered in her apartment like what
an insane just series of events. While frantically thing the scene,
Kennop was pulled over by you guessed it, my dad?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
He had been called for backup as Kennop was acting
suspicious and sweating profusely. There was a gold chain hanging
out of his pocket. The police ran Kennep's I D
and took a photo, but because Nicole's body had yet
to be found, there was no crime to tie him
to or known reason not to let him go. Kennep
fled immediately and the trail went cold when his car
was last found in New Mexico. As a prime suspect,
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he eventually appeared on an episode of America's Most Wanted.
Fast forward nine months, a lady who employed Kennep at
a pizzeria in a tiny town in Livingstone, Guatemala, came
suspicious of him, possibly because of the notable tattoo that
spelled out fear on his knuckles. It was nineteen ninety nine,
so though she struggled to find internet access, when she did,
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she did verify Kennep's identity on the FBI website and
called the US Embassy in Guatemala like, what a bad ass.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Just getting it all done.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
She's like, that guy's sketchy. Let me fucking just take
a couple steps and.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Just verify, yeah, you know, and then run my business.
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Although I can't find her name, I consider that woman
a hero. According to my dad, Kennep had hitchhiked. There
no air travel or official transportation. That is approximately a
forty five hour drive, and it says which in twenty
twenty four time is still forty five hours. Yeah, kenneb
was extradited back to Colorado. My dad was the co
lead investigator on the case at the time. With Kennep's
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DNA at the crime scene, graphic police interrogations, and the
gold chain noted by the police during the traffic stop
suspected to be Nicole's necklace. The self described sicko was
convicted a first degree sexual assault and first degree murder
and sentenced to life in prison without parole. He later
died by suicide in prison. I appreciate you both more
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than you could know. I am currently a master's student
studying clinical mental health counseling, and we need more strong
voices like yours and advocates for therapy and mental health care.
Nicole Holm was also studying psychology at my university when
she was killed. I can only imagine the good she
would have done in the field. Stay sexy, trust your gut,
and check the FBI Most Wanted list.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
A wow, A that was classic.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Also just like, how long did it say? How long
the trail went cold?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Just for a little while? It wasn't like it? Yeah, thankfully, good.
I know it happened so much.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I know.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Okay, here's my first one. It's MFM listener story. They
gave it its own kind of little bucket to put
it in.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
This is a listener story.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Okay, what do you call it?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It's a listener story The time my dad lived in
a serial killer's house.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
What hi 'all. I had written the story.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
A while back, but I realized I didn't fact check properly,
and I wanted to give it another shot.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
If only like we were throwing things out because of
fact checking. It's like, truly, you're you're just sitting in
the middle.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Of a very tall pile.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, that's not it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Don't be upset, Okay, but.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I love the kind of like that's a lot of
self accountability where it's just like, I'll take care of this.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, and look it worked.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
When my dad was in college in the eighties, he
and a few of his friends rented an old house
that was only fifty dollars a month per person. Oh
my god, which in today's month, which is in today's month,
is worth roughly two hundred dollars a month. I think
they meant math, but that's so I love that, Or
maybe they didn't. Still a major steal if you ask me. Yes, insane.
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Apparently every bedroom in this house had their own fireplace. Yeah,
and the gas used for the kitchen stove had to
be turned on by crawling underneath the house, so microwaves only.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I'm not sure how the mechanics of this process works,
but this sounds like a hard pass. This house wasn't
just any old house. This house was the childhood home
of the notorious serial killer Pee Wee Gaskins, one of
the worst, one of the you can't even like you
start to read about it.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And he's like a torturer. Oh yeah, just truly dark dark.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
When my dad told me about his time living there,
he remembered the neighbors telling stories about seeing Gaskins on
the roof hanging out by himself. My dad also remembers
finding a large pile of shoes in the crawl space
when turning on the stove. Shoes, shoes in the crawl space.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Be like, large amount of anything is bad, but shoes
is like, definitely on that list hidden shoes. Why don't
those people have their shoes anymore?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Were they all different sizes?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I thought they right?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's like that.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Remember the video of the guy that was a lake?
You need an update on that? Yes, okay, I really
hope there were just some old shoes left by him
and his siblings. But my murdering you no brain thinks
some of these shoes might have belonged to Gaskin's victims.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Most true crime podcasts don't cover this case because of
how gruesome his killings were, But I still wanted to
share this wild connection with you all. Thank you for
everything you do. I love how you normalize mental health
and therapy. Although my therapist might be worried about my
true crime obsessions, sometimes she's taken notes on some of
the things that you ladies have opened about have opened
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up about. You've got me through the pandemic, finding my
life partner, and finishing my masters in data science. So
smart Jesus, ay, come on, stay sexy and maybe don't
live in a serial killer's house, regardless of how cheap
it is.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
In this economy.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Nicole her Data and Science are two words that like,
I don't don't cross my mind, and she's studying both of.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Them both together and they're going to help. That's like, yeah,
what the world is coming?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Is?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
The other red flag for me is that I don't
think people should have personal fireplaces. I think there's a
community fireplace in the living room, right, but I don't
trust anyone else with like a bedroom fireplace.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Where they're burning their evidence. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
No, they're just like gonna put it out properly, oh
you know what I mean? Yes, or like gonna fall
asleep and forget that. There's I just don't trust personal fireplaces.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Unless you live in a hotel like Eloise, there's no
reason to have your own.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And the whole point of a fireplace is everyone gathers
around the stairs together. Yeah, don't. Yeah, don't go individual
with fire.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's it's a it's a community thing that we can
all remember. Please in case someone forgets accidentally uncovered my
in law's family secret at my first Christmas with their family. Oh,
let's get to it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I'm married into a pretty traditional and religious family. Our
first year married, I decided to be creative and make
my husband's grandmother a beautiful family tree. I got photos
of everyone in track down dates of birth and wedding
dates to put together the family tree. There were a
few dates I wasn't sure of, like the date of
my husband's grandparents' wedding. On Christmas Day, I was running
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around asking relatives to fill in the missing date for me.
Everyone seemed back and forth on the grandparents wedding date.
Was it nineteen sixty nine or nineteen sixty eight. The
confusing factor was that they were married in December. Everyone
agreed it must have been December nineteen sixty eight, because
my husband's father was born in July nineteen seventy, and
babies aren't born at less than seven months, big and
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beautiful with no complications, especially in the sixties. Except you
know where this is going. Later that day, we found
an actual newspaper clipping of their wedding announcement stating that
they were indeed married December nineteen sixty nine and my
father in law was born July nineteen seventy. Everyone looked
at each other with glances saying, oh, my gosh, it
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seems very likely that his grandmother was pregnant on their
wedding day.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
M hmm.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
My husband and I still talk about how I unknowingly
uncovered a family secret. I love, like just so nosy
without knowing it first. Talla, just fucking coming and shredding
that pit.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
You know to me, the new element you have to
deal with in this family.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
That's right, It's just like clear the dance floor everyone,
we've got some kind of moves. My husband and I
still talk about how I had known the uncovered a
family secret just three months after joining his family, because
the math is just a little too close if you
ask us, if you're wondering what his grandmother thought about
all of this, She played the I'm just as surprised
and confused as you card, which is totally her right
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and pretty badass in its own way.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Always do that, Yeah, play the confused grandma your entire life.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Why not just keep saying what over and over? You'll
just drive people in saying yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Thinking too much botox here because you always want to
be furrowing your brow, truly realistically furrowing you. I loved
her since I never knew my own grandparents very well.
She was a young widow and one time a real
life cultly try to date slash marry her in the eighties.
But that's the story for another time.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Please send it such a good cliffhanger, stay sexy, and
maybe toss out the newspaper evidence.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Emily, Emily, that happened in my family too.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I don't want to be too specific, but we did
that one day where we were just like, well, wait
a second, and did the math, and then we're just like,
because it is.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
It's always religious families too, that happens.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, because we don't give a shit, you know, And
actually it happens so much that it's like people should
know if that's a discovery, it should not be No
one should be like, what a dirty secret, because it's
like probably seventy percent of marriages are like and don't.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Bring it up, especially in the sixties. I feel like
that was just pretty par for the course.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, it was just.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
You go and do the right thing, don't bring it up,
don't make a family tree about it, don't run around
from new.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Relative to new relative.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Subject line of this email is that time I was
a nun Karen Georgia and the whole team I was
listening to and he s soowed four nineteen and you
asked for non stories.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Okay, when it's just and it just so happens. I
was a nun.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Wow, it's my favorite story to pull out at parties
to surprise people or if the conversation is getting a
little boring, especially because most people wouldn't pin my outgoing
tattooed effort saying true crime loving self as the nun type.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So cool. I grew up very loosely Catholic.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Shout out, Karen, I love all your Catholic references, meaning
my parents or raised Catholic but didn't really practice, but
sent me.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
To Catholic schools. That's rough.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Mixed in with that and some textbook childhood trauma, you know,
alcoholic parents, divorced, severe mental illness that kind of gets
you lots of points on the ACE scale and many
healing years in therapy.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Hi welcome.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I ended up getting really involved in my charismatic new
high school youth group. I could have done a lot
of other things as a teenager, to act out at drugs,
alcohol boys. No, I chose I control religion.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I mean, there's worse things there is.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I mean, yeah, but it's funny because on the face
you think, well, at least you're being this at least
you're safe for something.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
But I got very.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Active in the Catholic faith in a young faith group
in the area, and it was all very consuming and
in some ways almost cult like. Okay, so back to
the nun part. Usually when I dropped that information, I
get a ton of questions.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Could you have sex? Why did you go? Did you
change your name?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
After years in youth groups and religious settings, I truly
believed there was no higher calling than to quote, live
my life for only Jesus end quote. So I entered
the convent at twenty one years old. Wow, I'm thirty
six now, so this was pretty recently. I was only
in my first year, and you typically don't cut your
hair or change your name until the second or third year,
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so I just went by Sister Nicole. You also don't
take vows until your second or third year, but you're
learning about them and living by them already. So no,
I did not have sex while I was in the convent.
After about nine months, I decided to leave, which is
fairly common in the first couple of years as young
women are figuring out if it's truly.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
A good fit.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
It takes seven to ten years total, depending on the order,
to be a fully vowed religious sister in the Catholic Church.
About ninety percent of my days were spent in silence,
prayers and work around the convent. Meals were eaten in silence,
sometimes with a reading, unless it was a special celebration.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I can't do That's that's my out. I can't eat
in silence, no way.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's giving me adjida. Just describing Nicole's experience and the
order I entered. It's a teaching order, so all the
sisters teach in schools around the country.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
You keep a really rigid schedule of prayers.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Reading, and recreation, which is sometimes playing sports like ultimate
frisbee outside or.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
What non's playing ultimate.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
They're like, you absolutely have to. You have to pray.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Jesus loves ultimate frisbee.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
And you can see right over there he's playing. Or
board games.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Oll, it was a lot. See now I'm back in
for board camps.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Overall, there was a lot of beauty in the life.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
As a person who likes alone time, I don't mind
not talking to people all day. But I ultimately decided,
for many obvious reasons, that the life wasn't for me,
and years later decided high control religion wasn't for me either,
for more obvious reasons. Thank you, ladies and the whole
team for making a podcast that makes me and so
many people feel understood and like they're talking to a friend.
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You've gotten me through bouts of postpartum cross country moves,
raising four kids.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
And in parentheses it says, yes, it's a lot of kids. Really,
just deconstruction and so much more. You've done so much
good in the world with wit, humor and discussing hard topics.
Thank you for being you and sharing it. Stay sexy
and don't enter the cone.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
But oh my god, Nicole, what does Nicole do now?
I wonder. I mean, it's just like such a vast
array of life experience. Yeah, that's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
If Nicole has a job aside from mothering those fortunes
children that I would be wildly impressed.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Sure, that's a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It's so many children. Maybe they're grown up. Wow, that
is I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
We asked for that.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And then someone was like, here, I'll tell you all
of my personal business.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Thank you, kindly.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Good job. My last one is short. It's called My
Klepto Dad, A very very short read. Okay, after the
mini cell with the klepto Grandma. Remember there was a
grandma kept fucking putting shit in her verse. I am
officially joining the Finally I have something to write in
about club. In the first ten years of my life,
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I received various trinkets from my dad, things from shops, airplanes,
anywhere and everywhere, and he always told me that the
ladies gave them to him, the ladies. I was really
fond of these nice ladies until I got older and
realized that all this stuff was stolen. It broke my
little honest heart. As of course, I was always taught
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not to lie or steal anything. I can still vividly
remember the image of my favorite butterfly keychain lying in
the garbage after I threw it away upon discovering the
truth that stuff my parents still steal stuff. We have many,
many airplane blankets, various sets of airplane spoons, and other
random items from the ladies. Yeah love you, blah blah blah,
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aggy from Hungry.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Aggie, Hi, from Hungry Hi, all the way to hungry.
First of all amazing and cool. Secondly, the last time
I was on a plane, I was getting ready to steal.
Maybe it was a spoon or was something that was
so distinct and cool, and I was like, as I
was like, don't do it, do it, don't do it,
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its slight attendant came and took my tray away. I
was like, okay, she can tell like I think people probably,
I'm sure get these all the time.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
But you deserve it.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I mean I earned it, you did, But I that
feeling of like there's a real Aggie just really like
Drew wrote a little short story about like when your
heart first breaks as a child.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Because you're like, oh, I thought you guys were superhuman.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, and you've been lying to me.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You've been the lady.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Okay, here's my last one for a wedding's one bride
all drama. Hey, ladies, I've written in a few times
with no luck. But when you ask for wedding slash
family drama stories, I knew this was my moment. My
oldest cousin Jen and then a parentheses It says names changed,
has been married four times and each wedding has had
its own special crises and a lot of drama. I
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can already tell this is going to be a long one,
so I'll just.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Get into it. Four times four times.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
No judgment. But that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
That's very optimistic.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, it's very like nonsinical keeping it clean, totally, just
keeping it crying.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Fine, okay, fine, goodbye you there. Wedding one.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
At the first wedding, I was the drama and then
it has a little little devil's face emoji.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I love the admittance of that.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, but I still maintained that it was not my fault.
For context, I was too The wedding was in Jamaica.
It was my first time on a plane, and my
mom was staying home with my newborn sister, making it
also the first time i'd been away from her.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
There's no reason for a puckt two year old to
travel for a wedding without her primary No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
According to multiple sources, it says my dad, grandma, aunts,
and uncles. I was a nightmare the entire time and
through a full temper tantrum during this yeer oh God.
Over twenty years later, my relatives will still make fun
of me for ruining the wedding, even though the marriage
didn't even last long enough for the marriage license to
make it back to the stay you.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Think media divorce, Oh you gotta wonder, and then it says,
I don't think that's on me wedding too Clearly, I
hadn't been too big of an issue at the first
wedding because guess who got.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
To be a junior bridesmaid at the second one. I
can't confirm this, but I'm pretty sure that this wedding
was the final straw in my aunt and uncle. Like
a different Anton Uncle's divorce. Uncle John had a bit
too much to drink and was dancing very close to
several women, none of whom were his wife.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
They left early divorced.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Soon after, and Uncle John never came to another family
gathering except for to.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Pick up his kids.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Ooh.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
They had been on the outs for a while, so
no real surprise, but the timing and the kind of
drama of it kind of overshadowed the new marriage, which
also did not last long. Wedding three This wedding was
actually very pleasant. It was on a river ferry that
took us all on a nice cruise, with the ceremony, dinner,
and dancing all on board. We all thought jen had
finally had a drama free wedding until their divorce a
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few years later, when we learned that it wasn't a
wedding at all. They had never filed the paperwork to
get legally married and had lied to everyone to get
a bunch of gifts and make it less of a thing.
And then a parenthesis Catholic family whoa when they started having.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Kids got it. Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Needless to say, my family was pissed, with some relatives
even demanding their gifts.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Damn, you want the ice bocket back? Really crazy?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yes, I want my fucking queens in art back.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You already have one, but okay, Jesus wants me to
have my mind.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, Jesus is pissed, and I'm on behalf on his behalf.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Wedding four.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
After the scam that was Wedding number three, everyone was
understandably very I fucking love this woman.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
She's just like where she is. Okay, yes that happened,
But this one, I promise is real.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Get up every morning and go try to get married
again and just figure it out. After the scam that
was Wedding number three, everyone was understandably wary of Wedding
number four. The fact that Jen and Hubby four decided
to move forward with a wedding in the summer of
twenty twenty despite the whole pandemic thing didn't help matters either.
She and Hobby four are very conservative and they don't
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believe in vaccines, despite both working in the healthcare industry.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
What the When Jen found out that my parents and
some other relatives would not be attending, largely because of safety,
but also because we all had long since fulfilled our
familiar wedding duties, she wrote us all an email explaining
how none of her three divorces were her faults, and
then in parentheses it says not true, and then number
four would be different parentheses It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Oh god, I love family drama.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
She failed to change any of our minds and had
a much smaller wedding than anticipated. You can't after the
act on wedding three. You cannot expect people to go
in on wedding four.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Now, like attending is like a favor. And then don't
expect gifts. I've gotten you three gifts already.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Go to a beach with two friends and a beacon
and get it done. Yeah, send everybody a picture. Okay,
she failed to change any of our minds and had
a much smaller wedding than anticipated. She is still mad
about this and will bring it up passive aggressively whenever
she can at family gathering.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I think.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Oh I love her, I love the audacity.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, it's really an unapologetic life. Yeah, God bless when whatever, Jen,
I can be passive agress of two and air my
grievances on my favorite plod Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, I mean why not? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Also, mystery Jen it's not Jen's real name, is totally
free and welcome to write in say their side of
the story.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, just argue for love.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Thanks for listening to all that. Also, what am I
doing in twenty twenty five? I'm getting married?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
You heard that right.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
The screaming toddler turned junior bridesmaid turned non attendee is
all grown up. My fiance is the kindest, most emotionally intelligent,
wonderful man I know, and I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
To marry him. Oh that's really nice.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Though I have every expectation to be one and done
with my own wedding, I'm sure I'll still have plenty
of drama for my next email. Thank you for all
you do to advocate for victims and tell important stories
in a fair and balanced way.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Katie, she heard, Wow, Katie, Katie nailed it. Your aunt's
probably fund a party with though.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I mean, I think that's a big part of all
of it.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Have you seen those videos from like the holidays where
they're like they go a round the ruin they say, Hey,
if you were bringing someone new to the family gathering,
who would you warn them about? And everyone says one person.
It's always the one person, and then ye. So that's
the energy. It gave me.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Completely, I mean, and it is the thing of you know,
in families when there's like there's the everybody goes into
their roles and then there's escapegoats and all the family psychology.
So we'll leave it open door for Jen And what
if she's just in the most fucked family and she's
actual that actually the true.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
The one who doesn't get believe in vaccinations. Look, I'm
gonna go, I'm gonna guess no.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
What's there to believe in?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It exists and whether or not you believe in it.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
It exists and has been working for one hundred years
and is the way, and now that it has, the
people have stopped doing it immediately.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
There are bad results from that.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
AKA, it doesn't it doesn't need you believing in it,
just Okay, Hey, send us your stories. Hey my Favorite
Murder at Gmail.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Hey, choir that we loved it, reach too, you know us, Hi,
thanks for listening. Thanks for your family, any kind of
small time family drama. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Tell us about the person that you would warn other
people about if they came to your family party, and
tell us why everything about like what they've done, yes,
all the things they've ruined or jeheartedly but.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yes, fun time fun Like Casey, one of the producers
here who's also now co host on Deer Movies, I
love you told the story on the stuff, meaning about
his uncle who used to carry a bird in his pocket.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Remember that, I was like, this is the best story
I've ever heard about it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, okay, we got to hear those stories.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, and also stay sex, I don't get murdered.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Good Elvis, do you want a cookie?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Our editor is Aristotle Osceveda.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
This episode was mixed by Leona Scuolacci.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Emailing your hometowns to My Favorite Murder at gmail dot
com and.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Follow a show on Instagram and Facebook at my Favorite Murder.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Goodbye,