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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think I want to start by saying, before Benson
was backflipping, you were landing one at Wimbley Stadium. Let's
talk about that. Well, we got Eddie Benjamin in the building,
Ladies and gentlemen, what's up my guy? A fan for
a while, and I really love the honesty, the vulnerability,
the ability to tap into emotions and put them to song.
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That's what you do, that special bro. So the heart, now,
how full is it? How fulfilled is it? If at all?
And just how big is a smile as you shine it?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Because man, I think you know, always learning about our hearts.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm learning about my heart right now.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Definitely not looking for external validation, Definitely going inward, you know,
trying to heal some wounds at the moment. If I'm
going to be completely honest, but I'm good man.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Allowing yourself to go there and to have the wherewithal
to explore that's that's important, you know, to take that
time to do that. Are you finding spaces amongst the
badness to yeah, to be with your thoughts and energy barely?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
But I'm trying my hardest, you know, I'm definitely trying
my hardest to find the space to sit you know.
I think when you're in fear, it's easy to sit
on the surface and look at surface things as to
why you may be feeling a little hut.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But you have to go go at the depth is
you know, you have to go deep diving. Yeah, swimming, dude,
you did that.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And that's one of the first things that I wrote.
If you can read my scribble, you know, a complicated
relationship with fear. You know, you're it's scary to let
your feelings out there. It's scary to do those things.
But at the same time, what does it feel like
to know that you are being yourself and you're creating
songs from a true, honest place, and you're connecting. You
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know that You've got so many people sing along to
the lyrics of your songs, to your emotions, and they're
connecting because they feel the same way.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
You know. I think.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It's a beautiful, humbling experience, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Just to express yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I think being aligned is a daily thing, though you
have to choose every day how you want to feel
aligned with yourself. And I think it's easy to say
it's all this is my life, this is the way
it's going. I think maybe knowing is a little overrated,
and I think something I'm practicing every day is just
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checking in with myself truly every day. I'm like, does
this feel right? Does this feel aligned with me? And
if it doesn't, I'm getting the fuck out of there.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
If it does, go to something else exactly. Yeah, to
step out onto stages and to be accepted, you know,
does that offer a little bit of confidence each day?
To know that you are, you know, living your life's
purpose that you kind of knew when you were young,
I mean creating music from I mean, I'm sure you
were writing notes and pinning you know, songs that you're
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nineteen years old. But as you got out there, yeah,
see people really connect. Is that offer those.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It's I mean, it's a bit confidence.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah. Yeah, It's a beautiful thing to like go out
to a stage of people who maybe don't know you,
and to like have them support you in that present
moment is a very like beautiful.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Humbling experience.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And at the same time, it only happens if you
truly have inward energy going out. You can't go out
to an audience and be like, please accept me.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
You have to be like, hello, mother, like, this is me,
this is me, you know what I'm saying. So it's
like it's a spiral thing. It's like that self belief
and self love offers the.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Energy to be received, to be appreciated, you know what
I'm saying, So you can't It's it's a bit of
a paradox, you know what I'm saying. There's been times
where I'm feeling terrible and you go out on stage
and then they really.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Lift you up too.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
And again, like I think that's why knowing is overrated,
because it's just you're just always learning so much. If
you're putting yourself out there, you're building.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
This amazing community. Bro, How does how does it? An
Ossie find you know, being on different continents in other
parts of the world that you maybe didn't know that
you were going to have a neighbor or have a
roommate or have a friend in this sense of community,
and you know, all of a sudden, you're like, Wow,
not to drop an F bomb, but wow, you really
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fuck with me for who I am.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, is that just like a real feeling for you, dude?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, I think that's all we want is to be
in a community of people that you love when you
don't have to act or put on a sort of
facade to be accepted.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Ye know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And I think that's the thing I'm most proud of
in my life is my community, my friends.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I think the reason of life is to connect with
other humans on a deep, vulnerable scale, and I think
friendship is the illest way.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
We are some of those people beside your family. But
who are some of those friends that you want to
make sure they they receee their flowers due that you
know they know.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I d say lungy slab, but them Sean, justin boy,
I think like I just have so many beautiful people.
Mike Sabbath, I adore Mike Sabbath, kught A Lang, Dylan Daniel.
I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like the gang
is thick, Bro, I'm also in Daniel City, Daniel chet.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I love you, Bro.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
To have those folks that you named a couple of
people who you may have been a fan of that first,
but now they're your brother, your sister. First off, I'm
just gonna go down this list real quick, and there
is a common thread. Sean Alessia justin Canada.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
They're just you know, I was just talking about do
emotions better, you know, I mean, I think, you know,
we can get into the political reasoning.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
No, I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I was just talking about this like there's a subconscious,
unspoken chemistry between Australians and Canadians.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
There really is.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And man, all my fucking bestie's a Canadian.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That is what it is. I don't know I accepted it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
But those that's where your heart string is threaded through.
Like the beautiful necklace that you constantly wear, dude, that's
where the heart string is threaded. To have those friends
be people who you, maybe at one point in time
in your career looked up to. How important is that?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Man? It's just a privilege, you know what I'm saying.
I think being able to learn from your peers who
have been in this for fifteen years longer than you
is the most special thing. But absolutely, I remember watching
Justin perform his first live show when I was seven.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I remember getting in.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
The car looking at Sean touring in my hometown when
I was like fourteen, you know what I'm saying. And
I just have always respected artists who are fearless and
who are themselves? And I think to be learning from
my brothers and sisters is just the most.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Humbling thing ever.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And to have people you can really lean on and
be like, yo, I'm crashing the fuck out, what do
I do?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, They're like, yo, I got you, I got you
in those in the three that I can and truly
with a four le ROI that justin Alessia Sean, I've
been blessed to be able to call them friends as well.
I mean, you know, Sean has invited me into his
inner circle at times, and the hug it hits differently
when you know it's from a genuine person. So creating
with another human who really just allows you to be
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your truest self. Is that how the music is? That
how the magic happens within the music?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah? Man, I think the only way music can happen
is if you're being truthful and vulnerable with each other.
And I think that is created outside of the music
making room. I think you can look I just said this,
I think you can hear when music is being made
to make music, it's like the true space for the
truth to come through in the medium of music.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Happens away outside of the room. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying. So it's a bit of a back to
front thing.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It's like you're not gonna get a truthful result if
you just focus on the result.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You have to be in discovery with your people, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And those are some folks who have based their career
off of discovering not only their own sound, but growing
into and maturing and finding their way. When I think
about Alessia's most recent album, and then I rewind back
and I remember seeing you two hit the stage on
what it was, the TV pro Jimmy Kimme Alive and
just watching just that vibe just go off, watching Sean
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navigate this insane, you know, scrutiny that he had to
go through, but have it on the other side when
he steps through, be this powerful musician, and knowing that
you guys are finding ways to wrap each other's arms around,
you know, one another, to be there. It's it's powerful.
It's bigger than you know. Just stepping out on stage. Man,
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you're doing something that I don't know if it's resonated
with you, but I can tell by this smile that
it definitely is. Yeah, let's focus in on some of
this music here Driving is a special song.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You get out there and you see fans sing along
to it, did you ever imagine that?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I mean, yeah, I've definitely had visions of playing that
song and it being experienced in a in a beautiful
present moment for sure, But I think getting to see
it it was really special. I think we played that
song in Boston and it just kind of set off
the rest of the show.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
It was a really special moment. You know.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And we're talking about the show is it's opening on
the tour with with Sean and and I mean, we
got a song with the two of you together that's
quite powerful. It's is this a second or third that
you guys, because we have we have a song that
sparked a lot of conversation about what is it really about?
You know what I mean the Orange cover what we
Wait Wait you and Sean song? The was it about
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global warming?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Or was it about Oh what the hell are we
fighting for?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Fighting for?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Oh? Yeah, I forgot about that song.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So but this whole but home here about that song.
It's that's what It's been a growth, it's been a
continuous but it's still it was a moment where you
connected in and now here we are connecting again with
this song. How powerful is it to make this song
and video in watching this come to life?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I mean, look, man, I think like we experienced life
together and the music just comes together pretty naturally, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
That it was a full moon the night we recorded it. Okay,
it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I remember that night man Sean came in and did
his thing in just intensity of a full moon.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
It was really funny and beautiful.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But yeah, I think again we were experiencing relationship things
and we were able to express it through a medium
and we just loved it. Got to film a little
creative video, and I think that's what is fun about
creating with your friends, is getting to explore, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I don't think that was an outcome.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Ever necessarily perceived with like this is what we want
to do, just kind of happened.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
When things are so effortless, you know, as we start
to put a bow on the conversation here, when things
are so effortless, does it leave your heart or does
leave the studio with that of I think we nailed
this one.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I think you just it's an unspoken feeling, you know,
you know, if it resonates your body, if it gives
you energy. Yeah, the song that you just made, it's like,
that's the best feeling in the world.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And I feel like I recall you also speaking on
the beautiful production and writing work that you've done for
other artists. It's not about giving a song to anyone.
It's about what connects this upcoming body of work, the
debut album. These are songs that connect to you. And
you said this early in the conversation. I want to
leave with this, man, how proud are you to know
that you are connecting with who you are enough to
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call these songs the ones that I'm going to make
sure are right for me and my fans to get
to know more about who Eddie is.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I think, man, it's just a beautiful process to continuously
align yourself every day, you know what I'm saying. And
I think these songs mean so much to me. They
help me get me through my day, and that's the
function of them that you know, that for me to
help process my experience in my life. And I'm just
grateful to be able to share it because we're all
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gonna die, We're gonna share what we're going through. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I'll tell you, dude, why is beyond your years? Who
was not it is? I'm looking dead into the girl
who was not influenced by Prince. I mean, you know
who who did not feel the energy that you know
that you felt there that you are now creating for others. Man,
you're doing something again, so bigger than you and the
way that you're walking in it is thank you, super
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super powerful dog.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's why I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Gassed to be able to be there to witness it
all come together live. I'm telling you. I sent the
text message super fast. When I realized, I was like, Yo,
Eddie's gonna be there. This is you know. I need
to see the show, and I want to thank you
for welcoming not only me but us all as fans,
to thank your world for a little bit as we
continue to march this journey kind of you know, take
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off bank you all right? Well yeah, you all just
keep me all the way abuck man. This right here,
ladies and gentlemen, is Eddie Bitch.