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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from wor.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
From Everywhere USA. It's Fox Across America with Jimmy Fayala.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Welcome. Hey, I'm welcome. I'm Jason Chafits. I'm filling in
for Jimmy. Jimmy's doing the vacation thing. And maybe you
are too. Maybe you're on the way to a vacation,
maybe you're wrapping up work, maybe you're already on vacation,
hanging out, laying on the beach, or doing something fun.
This is one of my favorite times of the year.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You combine the warm, nice weather with Yeah, in some
places it's raining and pretty tumultuous, but you combine that
with the patriotism of the red, white, and blue. I
love it when it falls on a Friday, whether you're
going to a concert or parade or.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Something.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I hope you're having a good time in loving America.
You know, there was a there was a poll out recently,
a Fox poll, and Republicans generally were feeling great about
the country. They love the there's a surge of patriotism.
And but for the Democrats, there's like this drawing in patriotism.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I wonder why if you don't love your country.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
If you have a trouble with the red, white, and blue, yeah,
you're probably feeling pretty grumpy. But my message to you is, yeah,
you can leave. You can go somewhere else. If you
have to wave another country's flag, go there. Well up,
you get there, and that's probably where you belong. If
you can't love the country and all the service and
all the sacrifice and all the freedoms that we enjoy.
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This is the greatest country on the face of the planet.
And one of the reasons is the greatest country on
the face of the planet are people like my next guest,
Mike Cirelli. He's a retired US Naval Seal officer. Sir Mike,
thanks so much for joining us on Fox across America.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, dude, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, no, listen, you're joining us. Also, for those of
you watching on Fox Nation or can see the video
of this, Mike Cirelli's got this beautifully decorated place that
he's located himself.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I really like the way you've decorated.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
You're talking about my background. We just moved into your
headquarters office. We are still in transition. I'll get some
more work up there shortly.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Well, loosen up the tie a little bit. Fox across
the Waka Jimmy would never handle a tie like that.
I appreciate the respect, but I'm just telling you on
this show, with this radio show, yeah, they don't do
ties very well.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Now we're.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
We're gonna have a good conversation here.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
First, I want to talk about this new show you have,
and this is really important because I think our kids
grow up they don't understand the service, the sacrifice, the.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Wealth of.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Patriotism that surged through so many people through our two
hundred and forty nine year history. And you have this
brand news series, The Unsung of Arlington, you host. Tell
us about what we're going to see if we watch
this on Fox Nation.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, Jason, let me let me go a different way
about this one. You know, I'm most like most Gen xers.
Their their grandfather served in World War Two, didn't really
have any ties to the military, grew up in the
Bay Area of California, randomly joined the military, and you're
exposed to just some of the most amazing Americans I
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mean characters did I mean some of the stories I
have probably some unfit for media I couldn't imagine a
life without the military. It's like part of my DNA
now and mainly the men and the women. And I
often say, I don't miss the circus. I missed the clowns,
and that was one of the clowns, the men and
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women I served with. But you also, especially during the
Global War on Terror, in my experience, you know, we
lost a lot of brothers and sisters and arms. And
what's hard to swallow is that a lot of them
go unmentioned. And the Unsung of Arlington is a small
but beautiful attempt to tell some of those stories, five
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in total, because these are legacies that should not remain
buried with those who gave their lives for our country.
And Fox Nation, we know Fox Nation. Fox Nation puts
out pro American, very beautiful, well well orchestrated content, and
I could not have been happier to tell these five stories.
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What bothers me is that we can't tell more. And
that's my ultimate goal. I can make a living off
of telling the stories of our fallen because within these
stories you just get all these lessons that they left
behind on how to live just a beautifully impactful life.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, if you haven't been to Arlington National Cemetery. You
need to either yourself, your family, whatever you should take,
take the hour that it takes and walk through. It's
a very somber place. It's very uplifting, it's very patriotic,
and you look at the sea of people who have
given their lives and read some of those names on
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those crosses, and you go see the tomb of the
unknown soldier. And I've been to some of the military cemeteries.
I went to Tunisia, visited the one in tunis I've
been to France. You go outside of Normandy and visit
that facility. It's just it's amazing how many people And
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if you really let it sink in, particularly younger generation,
they need to be taught this. They need to experience
it and feel it and understand that a lot of
these people go in and serving their country. They're young,
they're seventeen years old, some of them sixteen years old,
and some of them were a little bit older, but
they put their lives online and it gave the ultimate
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sacrifice serving their nation. Again, tell us about your tour
of duty, and again, if you can give us any
more insight into these five that would be great.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, absolutely so. One. You know, you talk about stepping
on these national cemeteries, it's like you feel the weight
of sacrifice on your shoulders. It puts things into perspective.
They quite literally died for our freedoms. And you know diplomacy,
and you know diplomacy, giving your career, it only goes
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so far, and sometimes you've got to utilize force to
secure peace. And these men and women did not shrink
from the duty that their nation put upon them, and
they gave their lives for it. You know, you talk
about these individuals on the unset of Arlington. Chaplain Charles Pierce,
again a name that is relatively anonymous to the public.
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He is the individual who created the grave registration system
to make sure that the families of our fallen have
closure by repatriot repatriating their remains in burying them properly.
At Arlington. Where this hit me so hard was even
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when we were filming, I went to go visit some
brothers who were laid to rest. Uniquely, some of those
brothers are buried together in one tombstone called the Extortion
seventeen tombstone. It says, here live the men of Extortion, seventeen.
They all got individual tombstones, but some of their remains
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couldn't be identified, so they put all of them. Because
thirty one Americans were killed on board a helicopter that
was shot down in Afghanistan, they put the remains they
couldn't identify in one grave site labeled Extortion seventeen. And
that's all because of Charles Peers. And I didn't know
that name stepping into this series, and I consider myself
a student of military history, and you learned so much.
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We covered Medgar Evers, which is a perfect example that
sometimes the true battles are not fought on the battlefield,
but here at home. He was a civil rights warrior
who was unfortunately gunned down in his own driveway fighting
for you know, civil rights for the African American community.
And hearing his story and about how he decided to
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make that his life was he saw the French free soldiers,
black french men fighting alongside white french men considered equals.
So it goes into stories I got and it's just
as you dive in. And again I didn't know all
the people we cover. John Glenn, he's the goat. We
all know that he's a name that we recognize. You learn.
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You learned so much. I mean that's student students of history.
If you truly are a student of history, you learn
lessons that even apply to modern day life.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So this Fourth of July, again, as I've said, it's
one of my favorite holidays. It's just a great time
of year for the for the country and the red,
white and blue and the flag and.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And all that it symbolizes.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And there's nothing better being somewhere, and they do a
flyover and it's just like wow, you just you know,
you just feel the chill down your spine. It just
makes you proud to be an American and and you
know it's just for me, it's just an amazing time
and I love it. But then I read stories about
these people that are going to want to protest because
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they've got some political agenda. Now there's nothing more American
than protesting and doing it in a civil way. But
it does bother me that they try to take away,
you know, Flag Day, Fourth of July, these other holidays
and try to make them into their own because they've
got a political agenda.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You can't hear stupid. Yeah, it's just pure, it's pure
ignorance based off a lack of perspective. And again I
credit the military for show me different cultures, Third world cultures,
war torn cultures where oppression is a real thing. Anyone
who says they feel oppressed in the United States, they're
They're entitled to their opinion, but they truly used usually
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from my perspective or my opinion, they lack perspective on
how good we have it. You know, I always ask
myself why am I never around when these people are
burning flags, Like why are why aren't I and my
friends around? Because we would handle that really quickly. I
do agree with you a First Amendment right, freedom to speech,
freedom to protest, to fight for what you believe in
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in a respectful professional manner. But we see what's going
on in LA. You know, I would love to start
a group of veterans that just deploy to these these
protests to handle things that doesn't probably build well. And
my mom would would probably schoold me for saying this,
But sometimes you just need to to bring the force
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on these people and not allow them to get this
social denancy, which which is becoming a rampant across our
nation to destroy other people's property. Or to assault our officers,
like we sometimes need to go back to the days
where the police pulled out their batons and beat them back.
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That's my opinion. I'm just you know, I'm a Californian.
I hate to see what's happening in LA I hate
to see some of these protests and I think at
the end of the day, it's just a lack of
ignorance and perspective.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, I think a group of former seals could probably
take care of business pretty pretty quickly there. And you know,
you keep pushing and spitting on people, there's going to
be some pushback and they shouldn't be surprised by that.
I'm not advocating for any sort of violence in any way,
shape or form, but if you're going to be committing
violence and I then you know somebody needs to step up.
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And anyway, Mike Sirelli, former Navy Seal, You've got this
great special on Fox Nation, the Unsung of Arlington. I
encourage everybody check it out and thank you. Thank you
for your service, to your sacrifice and the people that
you know that lost their lives serve in our country.
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That's a special time of year. Fourth of July are
two hundred and forty ninth, Wait till two hundred and
fifty next year. Oh my goodness, gonna be a big one.
Mike Sirelli, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
All Right, go crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Thanks Jason, thank you. We'll be right back. Stay with us.
He's the show that tells climate crazies the truth.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
We cannot run the greatest economy by putting Ferry, Dush
and unicorn.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You're all right, welcome back to Fox Across America.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I'm Jason Chief. It's feeling it for Jimmy. And joining
us right now is Jonathan Fahe. He's the former acting
Ice director. Sir, thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate it,
Thank you, Thanks for having me. Hey, you're during your time,
they never had alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
What do you think of this new place of it.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
It's such a great idea, and there's so many things
that are that are interesting about this one is just
sort of the democratic apoplectic reaction to it has always
worth a lot of entertainment value, but it really just
shows that one Donald Trump is taking this issue seriously
and illegal aliens are going to be deported, and you
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know they are using all the resources.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Available to do so and to do so efficiently.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
So I think this is not only a good way
to hold people to remove them, but it's also another
thing that Donald Trump is doing that he's been the
most effective at with this administration has been the deterrent
aspect of this. Nobody's coming across the border, and the
much of that is because we have the border patrol
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securing the border, but the messaging from Trump President Trump
and the Trump administration has been so strong that people
aren't even trying to come in anymore, and people are
starting his self deport So everything about this is a positive.
And again the high entertainment value of democratic reaction to
everything Trump says and does is certainly worked a lot
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as well.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Well.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Certainly there's some things you know in jokes and you
can see all the memes showing up on the internet.
But the reality is we need the beds, right, I mean,
because exactly the deportation the ro of this portion of
this equation is really important because if you're going to deport,
they're not going to self deport.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
They're part of the criminal element.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
You've got to be able to house them in order
to get them together, get them on a plane. And
get them back to wherever they came from.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Yeah, exactly right. You have to make the most of
the resources we have and.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Be creative and be willing to be creative.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
To maximize bed space and other things. Because we have
the you know, the build that looks like it's passing
and it's going to add a lot more resources for ice,
but even before they get implemented, there's a lot of
time that will be in that point. So this is
a creative way to use resource and they're going to
use all of them, and that just shows the commitment
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to this. And you really go back to you know,
you see all the reaction of the Democrats to some
of these things, but the reality is the only reason
he has to do so much of this is because
Joe Biden and Alejandra Mayorcis opened up the border and
encouraged people to come in to break our laws with
the you know, impl implication that they would get essentially
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citizenship or amnesty in which they tried to give them in.
Democrats still want to give all the illegals for here amnesty,
at least it seems like from you know, the way
they're reacting to everything Donald Trump was doing.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, they brought him in by the millions. What do
you think of this?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
You know, now there's this app that's been developed to
give people heads up that there may be an ICE operation.
I can't even imagine you put your life on the line.
It's hard enough job, you're the former acting ICE director.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
What does this do?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I mean, this is so anti law enforcement stunning to
me that Apple even allows that to be an app
on their on their platform.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Yeah, that's a really good point about being on the
platform because the sole purpose of this app is the
thort and essentially obstruct ICE from doing their job, which
is their.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Job that they're required to do.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
And it's pretty amazing to me that there isn't more
outcry really on the democratic tide, because you do think
at this at very least makes it, you know, easy
for people to get away from ICE and get away
from being deported when they're supposed to be deported. But
the worst part about it is we have these ICE
ages that the assault rates on ICE agents. I'm sure
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you've talked about it a lot. They're up about five
hundred percent. This shows they're far greater danger and I
think a lot of it is because of the rhetoric
that's coming out of the Democratic Party, but they're already
facing higher degrees of assaults, and this puts them at
greater danger because you know, if they're trying to arrest
somebody or anything else, is eliminates the you know, element
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of surprise and other things. So they're they're going to
be putting nice agents in danger by doing this.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's really disgraceful.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
And you know, there's nobody on that that could even
claim at this point that the Democratic Party is anything
but an open border's amnesty party because you haven't heard
one Democrat that I know of speaking out against this.
And the other thing is, I don't think there's a
single Democrat that's spoken up in favor of Donald Trump
on this as far as the border security, because they
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all claimed before the election they were in favor of
border security. Well, it's unquestionably true. He's given us that.
Why isn't there any praise for him, because we know
the truth is they never wanted it. They wanted mass
illegal immigration and mass amnesty, and that's that's been.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Their play all along.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
But it really is revealing these last few months.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Jonathan fayhe former acting ice director on Fox across America.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Stay with us. We'll be right now.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Nothing like getting a little Duran durand to kids you
kicked off. I'm Jason Chief. It's filling in for Jimmy.
He's already doing the vacation thing. The guy works as
hard as anybody here at Fox. So I'm glad to
get it. Get him out west, get him a little
fresh air, or get a little rest those bones a
little bit, and just be with his family.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Good for him.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I hope you are too. Hope you're going to have
a wonderful Fourth of July. Two hundred and forty nine
years this country. It'll be a great year this year,
but imagine next year, two hundred and fifty years. Oh,
that's just gonna be so great. We've got Victoria Sparts
who's joining us. She's a congresswoman, and boy, we got
a lot happening still in Congress. Normally they want to
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be out on vacation, I know, because they used to
be in Congress.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
But you know, they still got work to do.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Because now the United States Senate has passed the big
beautiful bill. They did it with one vote, getting the
Vice President JD. Vance over there to break the fifty
to fifty die, but Congresswoman sparts, thanks for joining us
on Fox across America.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Now it's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Thank you Jason for having me. As you know, that
was the original plan. I mean, the closer the Senate,
for the Senate to jam the House before the fourth
of that life.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So that's as a road net that works in Congress
and works very well. Now we're going to see if
the House will be willing to hold the ground, to
hold the Senate to the minimum framework, or the House
is going to fold. And that's going to be a discussion.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Well that's interesting. You got you. You're a little more
I don't want to say pessimistic, but.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Maybe foreshadowing that they may not just swallow this because
that term it's not an official in the in the dictionary.
But I can tell you members of Congress and their
staff understand what a jam is if if you want
to jam the House or jam the Senate, you basically
pass the bill, leave town and dare them to not
do anything while you're already out on vacation. They just
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kind of jam it and say, now our vote was
strong enough. But you're telling me that you think there's
going to be a pretty vibrant discussion before they put
that bill up to vote. What's that, what's that going
to look like? And where are you on this?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Alison Jason. I think everyone is agreed. There are a
lot of good things, and the text cuts are good
for the economy and border security, supporting the militaries. There
is no disagreement about that the challenges will have, how
we're going to be paying for it, that the text
cuts actually lost, that we have the money and the
funds are going to insolvent, and everything else, how we
at least can break even so we don't add to
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the deficits. And I think the House created the framework
that the Speaker committed, he committed actually not to put
them on the floor violate the framework, and this bill
will the roughly at least half a tally short of
this minimum framework, you know where it assumes grows, but
it cannot do the more than two and a half
trillion attributed to gross and right now, I mean I
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haven't seen all of the final amendments. I think it's
gotten a little bit worse, probably not mine, but it
will be at least half a trillion short of that framework,
So that discussion is right now, Speaker is going to
still put it on the floor in spite of you
promised he wouldn't do it. And then Republicans that you
know what part of that are they going to be
vote known this rule and that's going to be you know,
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very challenging thas. But I think, you know, looking at that,
we're going to pass this bill. If it's not this week,
it's going to pass late in July. I know the
President wanted before the course of July. And if we
can make it work, that's great. If not, we can
wait a little bit. But it's going to pass. It's
going to be a good bill and we'll make it
more beautiful.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So process wise, it's going to pass a rule. Then
that rule's got to be brought up I my am,
assuming leadership doesn't want any amendments, and so that rule
vote is going to be an interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
One, right. The one on the floor is going to
be very interested though, because there are a lot of
buss that I thought we needed to do even more
I felt, you know, that that was the many requirement
didn't really look into a lot of fraud in the
system that you know, we have to deal with or
we go bankrupt in the country. But that was the
minimum requirement. A lot of House members signed the latter
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you've seen that overtuity members, and now they will have
to make a decision, and the Speaker has to make
a decision is he going to bring to the floor
because him and Leader will committed not to bring it
to the floor. If they're doing that, they're violating an agreement.
And they will have to decide. All of us will
have to decide how we're going to be voting, you know.
So that's going to be a tough one.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Interesting so that happens in plays out on Wednesday. I
don't think many constituents, if the bill has not passed,
are going to understand when the river at Congress comes
home for the fourth of July. I think they're going
to say, you haven't done your work yet. You're going
to have to stay there. And it's painful that that
is away from people's family. That's usually the compulsion that
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gets a whole lot of people to reconsider. And also
the President of the United States when he starts leaning
into this and making calls. It's amazing how persuasive Donald
Trump could be at that very moment. Is are you
going to have to be on that call list or
are we got these same usual suspects.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Well, listen, I think there are a lot of They've
been invited. How has been making calls and they have
good discussions with them. I shure it with President and
my thoughts, and I think it's important for us to
have communications and the President, I understand he would like
to have it before the course of July, but it's
not a mass or is not The wall is not
going to end, and not much is going to change
if it's not. So I think we need to understand
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that it's going to pass in July. It's going to
be very good bill. I think it's going to be
important bill. But if we have to work out a
few things, we can make it work. And I think
it's important to understand this is going to be really
the only major bills that are going to pass this Congress,
and I think it's important to make it right even
if we wait a week or two. I mean, text
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cuts are not expiring till the end of the years,
or is nothing there as urgent. We have some still
room with that ceiling, which another conversation, so we still
have a room. It doesn't have to be the only
reason they try to push us on July Force. And
we don't even have to be there. We can all
go July Force and come back. You know. There is
only reason it's pushed because there is a you know,
the Senate wants to jam us, you know, and for
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the House boat before the July Force. That's the only
reason that it works like that. There is no other
legitimate reason to do it before July Force.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
You're on the House Judiciary Committee. I was on the
House Judiciary Committee, and Judiciary has jurisdiction on homeland security.
Even though there's a Homeland Security Committee, they're really the
jurisdiction particular, and immigration falls with House Judiciary. What the
President's been down in Florida visiting the so called Alligator Alcatraz.
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What's your take on the move there? It did open
up five thousand beds. I think people start occupying that
starting tomorrow. What's your take on it?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Well, listen, I think it's important for us to not
to enforce the law and to secure our country and
secure our border and make sure that we don't have
illegal criminals here coming here legally destabilizing the kind of
roaming around. So I think President was being making some
tough stance. I think President was supporting and a lot
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of these decisions by Supreme Court because we cannot have
this slawlessness. We're the rule of law country and that's
what we differentiated from anarchists, and we cannot let cartels
run our country, which is really unfortunately it's been happening
under last administration and control our border. So I think
it's important what he's doing. It's important to support border security,
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which Bill actually will do, and give more funding to
proper causes. We just need to make sure that we
come after bad staff, that we have money for the
good staff, and I think that's extremely important. And the
law enforcement and the president doing is the border. It's great,
and unfortunately we have this law so broad that the
Committee never dealt with them to tighten them. That allows
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them administrations to abuse it like what happened in the
previous one. That is actually failure of Congress not to
pass battle laws. And I think last Congress we had
missed opportunity to tighten them. So it will improve under
this president, but hopefully at some point Congress will step
up and actually pass battle laws that we cannot have
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next president abuse them again.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
We're talking to Congresswoman Victorious Sparts from Indiana's fifth congressional district.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Congresswoman, when you we were.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Talking about this with the former ICE director, you see
that there's an app out there now that gives warning
for when there's an ICE operation or ICE officers around.
What's your take on that? What do you what do
you think should be done? I mean Apple's putting this
out there on their platform for goodness sake.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well, I think, you know, we need a start really
common and a lot of this big tech company so
been have a lot of political power. They collect a
lot of data and they abuse data. So I think
that's another issue that Congress, you know, they're not dealt with.
How do we need to make sure that we don't
have powerhouses of data collections that are able to use
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even if they want and their own judgment, we thought
that how they did a lot of censoring, how they
did a lot of abuses, less Congress and less presidency,
and right now they actually intervening in law enforcement operations.
So I think we need to come and start investigating that.
But also how Congress can do better data protection and
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privacy that they don't collect as much data as on
all of us. And I think that's something that you know,
we haven't dealt with. And actually, that is one of
the issues that I was disappointed that we haven't addressed
it as judiciary when I served the net.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Well, that's why I wrote this book. It's out today.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
It's called They're Coming for You, and it is all
about the data and how the data is going to
be weaponized to come after us. And and you're right,
this is an example of that. And and I think
people are very naive to how much data is flowing
in and out of government, how the government is collecting data.
Then they're selling the data, but then they're also buying
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the data, which is just crazy because that's how they
get around the need for warrants and surveillance and other
things that we limit law enforcement from doing. But then
then they can just go buy it and they say, oh, well,
that's not an invasion of privacy.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
We bought it on the open market.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
But on the other hand, it can be used for
nefarious intent like oh, I don't know, targeting ice officers,
doxing them. You have video now of these people just
taunting these people in Portland saying that they're going to
dox their federal employees, and you know, these are law
enforcement officers just trying to do their jobs for goodness sake.
(28:49):
I hear Democrats are just crickets on this, But I
do think Congress should and could do more on this
very topic.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, and I think would rob the bone dec issue.
That's the biggest issue because data is actually property and
kind of supposed to protect people's rights to life, liberty,
and property, and it's a new type of property. We
never define it, We never really did proper protections, and
we have to so we're actually abandon our job protecting
the people and their property. We still want to make
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sure that we have innovations and AI working way it
needs to be, but also stop up of users and
prevents the data collection that with AI and quantity computers
will allow to some of the companies and governments, to
and including foreign governments, to manipulate people and it's very dangerous.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Absolutely, We're going to talk a little bit more about
that again. My book is They're coming for you Today's
day one of those sales and uh, Congresswoman Victorious sports,
I'm glad to hear you talking about it, because those
are the types of things that really should be deal
dealt with. When I was in on the House Judiciary,
in the House Oversight Committee, boy, we tried to deal
with facial recognition and data collection and whatnot. But boy,
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it's hard because very few members of Congress actually have
a background in this, and it's tough to deal with.
But listen, we appreciate Fox across America you share in
your perspective. Hope you have a wonderful fourth of July,
and we're looking in great fascination as to what happens
tomorrow with that one big beautiful Bill victorious parts Indiana's
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fifth Congressional District.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Congresswoman, thanks for joining.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Us, Thank you for having me. Jason, Happy Independence Day.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, yes, stay with us. We'll be right back and
speak to Jimmy now. Triple eight seven eight ninety nine ten.
You're listening to Fox Across America with Jimmy Taylor.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
You're listening to Fox Jason Chafe. It's filling it for Jimmy.
And we're going to take some calls right now if
you can. I think we got Freddy down in Florida. Freddy,
what's happening.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Hello, Hello, and I want to say I'm sorry you
caught me a little up.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Gray.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Well, you've been waiting a little while. I appreciate you
waiting because we had a couple of guests. But Freddie,
you're up now, all right.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I'm a former New Yorker in Florida now many years.
But what I wanted to do was a little bit
concerned about that election or potential up there for mum Donnie.
I think if the election were more binary, we'd have
a much better chance of squelching his attempt to become
mayor Eric Robert Eric Adams mayor. Adams has to become
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a Republican and then have a primary for that position
with Curtis Sliwa, who I grew up with, by the way,
or vice versa. Maybe Curtis takes the range and Adams
bows out, but you need one against the other. I
think if you have all three, you increase the odds
of this fellow, the socialist, getting the rains.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
No, I think they're there's a lot.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Of a mechanism.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, look, you know, each state in the city gets
to kind of do things their own way. I think
there's beauty and smart in that system. But I do
not like rank choice voting. And it's true when you
diversify and you have so many people at the final
it's not a choice between one, two or three people you.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Get you.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Spread people out to then that they start dividing the vote,
and you know, Cuomo stay in the race, he'll take
some Democrats who instead of voting against Mom Donny would
vote for somebody like that as opposed to say and
Eric Adams. So I don't know how it's going to
sort itself out, but you make a just a keen observation,
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which is, yeah, there's got to be a more solid way.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Of doing that.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
But you know, he did get what is it, fifty
six percent of the vote is pretty impressive actually on
the Democratic side of the aisle, but it's been taken
over by the Socialists, and I think that's happening nationwide.
I don't think that's a New York only phenomenon.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
What do you think, Well, I agree wholeheartedly with what
you're saying, but I think there's more a closet Republicans
up in New York than of years past.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, I mean, look how well Lee Zelden, Look how
well Donald Trump did I mean Zelden, you know, was
starting to become really viable there, and I think that's true.
I don't know if it's as true, you know, right
in the heart of New York City as opposed to
upstate and other parts of the of the state that smoothed.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
It out a little bit.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
But Freddie, I'm going to try to get one more
call from Florida and before we go to break here,
So thanks for sharing that, thanks for holding on for it.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
That does.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Let's try Wally, he's also in Florida. What you're what
are you thinking about, Wally, Hey.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Jason, I think the election of zoke On Momdani as
a mayor would be a great thing for the country.
And my observation is that he will show the liberals
and progress and what poor leadership and financial mismanagement can
do to even a great economy like New York. And
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I just think it'd be a great lesson for the
country to let him, let him do his thing, and
he'll return New York City to the nineteen seventies, and
then we can also see with good leadership, how great,
how quickly you can turn that around.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Well, it's amazing because I think the principles of our country,
just basic capitalism, which he says he's opposed to the
idea that he wants to, you know, go after the
white neighborhoods, that he wants to have government run grocery stores. Yeah,
they're very you see how.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
That's what But that's that's actually what people need to
see in reality.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, I heard, I've read this post by Charlie Kirk,
who I really follow and admire and one of the
smarter people out there, and always I don't know if
you follow her, we're watch him what he does. But
he'll answer any question from anyone, and he has a nice,
good debate back. And Charlie Kirk said, you know what,
but I love America too much. I love New York,
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and it's worth saving and fighting for rather than just
letting it be an experiment. And I think there's probably
a little there's a lot more truth to that. So
I think I probably personally I follow a little bit
more into the Charlie Kirk camp.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
But Wally, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Some people say, hey, let it fail, let us show it.
But you know what, people are going to flee this city.
They can't do business in this city if you're Jewish.
I don't know why you would reside here. It's just unbelievable,
how radical left. But I think this is a bigger,
broader problem for Democrats because I think he personifies with
AOC and some others how radical left the Democrats of
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today have been. I'm Jason Chafits filling in for Jimmy.
This is Fox across America. Thanks so much for sharing
part of your.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Day with us. This has been a podcast from w
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From Everywhere USA. It's Fox Across America with Jimmy Fayala.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Welcome. Hey, I'm welcome. I'm Jason Chafits. I'm filling in
for Jimmy. Jimmy's doing the vacation thing. And maybe you
are too. Maybe you're on the way to a vacation,
maybe you're wrapping up work, maybe you're already on vacation,
hanging out, laying on the beach, or doing something fun.
This is one of my favorite times of the year.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You combine the warm, nice weather with Yeah, in some
places it's raining and pretty tumultuous, but you combine that
with the patriotism of the red, white, and blue. I
love it when it falls on a Friday, whether you're
going to a concert or parade or.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Something.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I hope you're having a good time in loving America.
You know, there was a there was a poll out recently,
a Fox poll, and Republicans generally were feeling great about
the country. They love the there's a surge of patriotism.
And but for the Democrats, there's like this drawing in patriotism.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I wonder why if you don't love your country.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
If you have a trouble with the red, white, and blue, yeah,
you're probably feeling pretty grumpy. But my message to you is, yeah,
you can leave. You can go somewhere else. If you
have to wave another country's flag, go there. Well up,
you get there, and that's probably where you belong. If
you can't love the country and all the service and
all the sacrifice and all the freedoms that we enjoy.
(01:26):
This is the greatest country on the face of the planet.
And one of the reasons is the greatest country on
the face of the planet are people like my next guest,
Mike Cirelli. He's a retired US Naval Seal officer. Sir Mike,
thanks so much for joining us on Fox across America.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, dude, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, no, listen, you're joining us. Also, for those of
you watching on Fox Nation or can see the video
of this, Mike Cirelli's got this beautifully decorated place that
he's located himself.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I really like the way you've decorated.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
You're talking about my background. We just moved into your
headquarters office. We are still in transition. I'll get some
more work up there shortly.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Well, loosen up the tie a little bit. Fox across
the Waka Jimmy would never handle a tie like that.
I appreciate the respect, but I'm just telling you on
this show, with this radio show, yeah, they don't do
ties very well.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Now we're.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
We're gonna have a good conversation here.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
First, I want to talk about this new show you have,
and this is really important because I think our kids
grow up they don't understand the service, the sacrifice, the.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Wealth of.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Patriotism that surged through so many people through our two
hundred and forty nine year history. And you have this
brand news series, The Unsung of Arlington, you host. Tell
us about what we're going to see if we watch
this on Fox Nation.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, Jason, let me let me go a different way
about this one. You know, I'm most like most Gen xers.
Their their grandfather served in World War Two, didn't really
have any ties to the military, grew up in the
Bay Area of California, randomly joined the military, and you're
exposed to just some of the most amazing Americans I
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mean characters did I mean some of the stories I
have probably some unfit for media I couldn't imagine a
life without the military. It's like part of my DNA
now and mainly the men and the women. And I
often say, I don't miss the circus. I missed the clowns,
and that was one of the clowns, the men and
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women I served with. But you also, especially during the
Global War on Terror, in my experience, you know, we
lost a lot of brothers and sisters and arms. And
what's hard to swallow is that a lot of them
go unmentioned. And the Unsung of Arlington is a small
but beautiful attempt to tell some of those stories, five
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in total, because these are legacies that should not remain
buried with those who gave their lives for our country.
And Fox Nation, we know Fox Nation. Fox Nation puts
out pro American, very beautiful, well well orchestrated content, and
I could not have been happier to tell these five stories.
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What bothers me is that we can't tell more. And
that's my ultimate goal. I can make a living off
of telling the stories of our fallen because within these
stories you just get all these lessons that they left
behind on how to live just a beautifully impactful life.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, if you haven't been to Arlington National Cemetery. You
need to either yourself, your family, whatever you should take,
take the hour that it takes and walk through. It's
a very somber place. It's very uplifting, it's very patriotic,
and you look at the sea of people who have
given their lives and read some of those names on
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those crosses, and you go see the tomb of the
unknown soldier. And I've been to some of the military cemeteries.
I went to Tunisia, visited the one in tunis I've
been to France. You go outside of Normandy and visit
that facility. It's just it's amazing how many people And
(05:35):
if you really let it sink in, particularly younger generation,
they need to be taught this. They need to experience
it and feel it and understand that a lot of
these people go in and serving their country. They're young,
they're seventeen years old, some of them sixteen years old,
and some of them were a little bit older, but
they put their lives online and it gave the ultimate
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sacrifice serving their nation. Again, tell us about your tour
of duty, and again, if you can give us any
more insight into these five that would be great.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, absolutely so. One. You know, you talk about stepping
on these national cemeteries, it's like you feel the weight
of sacrifice on your shoulders. It puts things into perspective.
They quite literally died for our freedoms. And you know diplomacy,
and you know diplomacy, giving your career, it only goes
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so far, and sometimes you've got to utilize force to
secure peace. And these men and women did not shrink
from the duty that their nation put upon them, and
they gave their lives for it. You know, you talk
about these individuals on the unset of Arlington. Chaplain Charles Pierce,
again a name that is relatively anonymous to the public.
(06:50):
He is the individual who created the grave registration system
to make sure that the families of our fallen have
closure by repatriot repatriating their remains in burying them properly.
At Arlington. Where this hit me so hard was even
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when we were filming, I went to go visit some
brothers who were laid to rest. Uniquely, some of those
brothers are buried together in one tombstone called the Extortion
seventeen tombstone. It says, here live the men of Extortion, seventeen.
They all got individual tombstones, but some of their remains
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couldn't be identified, so they put all of them. Because
thirty one Americans were killed on board a helicopter that
was shot down in Afghanistan, they put the remains they
couldn't identify in one grave site labeled Extortion seventeen. And
that's all because of Charles Peers. And I didn't know
that name stepping into this series, and I consider myself
a student of military history, and you learned so much.
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We covered Medgar Evers, which is a perfect example that
sometimes the true battles are not fought on the battlefield,
but here at home. He was a civil rights warrior
who was unfortunately gunned down in his own driveway fighting
for you know, civil rights for the African American community.
And hearing his story and about how he decided to
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make that his life was he saw the French free soldiers,
black french men fighting alongside white french men considered equals.
So it goes into stories I got and it's just
as you dive in. And again I didn't know all
the people we cover. John Glenn, he's the goat. We
all know that he's a name that we recognize. You learn.
(08:44):
You learned so much. I mean that's student students of history.
If you truly are a student of history, you learn
lessons that even apply to modern day life.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So this Fourth of July, again, as I've said, it's
one of my favorite holidays. It's just a great time
of year for the for the country and the red,
white and blue and the flag and.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And all that it symbolizes.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And there's nothing better being somewhere, and they do a
flyover and it's just like wow, you just you know,
you just feel the chill down your spine. It just
makes you proud to be an American and and you
know it's just for me, it's just an amazing time
and I love it. But then I read stories about
these people that are going to want to protest because
(09:29):
they've got some political agenda. Now there's nothing more American
than protesting and doing it in a civil way. But
it does bother me that they try to take away,
you know, Flag Day, Fourth of July, these other holidays
and try to make them into their own because they've
got a political agenda.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You can't hear stupid. Yeah, it's just pure, it's pure
ignorance based off a lack of perspective. And again I
credit the military for show me different cultures, Third world cultures,
war torn cultures where oppression is a real thing. Anyone
who says they feel oppressed in the United States, they're
They're entitled to their opinion, but they truly used usually
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from my perspective or my opinion, they lack perspective on
how good we have it. You know, I always ask
myself why am I never around when these people are
burning flags, Like why are why aren't I and my
friends around? Because we would handle that really quickly. I
do agree with you a First Amendment right, freedom to speech,
freedom to protest, to fight for what you believe in
(10:35):
in a respectful professional manner. But we see what's going
on in LA. You know, I would love to start
a group of veterans that just deploy to these these
protests to handle things that doesn't probably build well. And
my mom would would probably schoold me for saying this,
But sometimes you just need to to bring the force
(10:56):
on these people and not allow them to get this
social denancy, which which is becoming a rampant across our
nation to destroy other people's property. Or to assault our officers,
like we sometimes need to go back to the days
where the police pulled out their batons and beat them back.
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That's my opinion. I'm just you know, I'm a Californian.
I hate to see what's happening in LA I hate
to see some of these protests and I think at
the end of the day, it's just a lack of
ignorance and perspective.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, I think a group of former seals could probably
take care of business pretty pretty quickly there. And you know,
you keep pushing and spitting on people, there's going to
be some pushback and they shouldn't be surprised by that.
I'm not advocating for any sort of violence in any way,
shape or form, but if you're going to be committing
violence and I then you know somebody needs to step up.
(11:53):
And anyway, Mike Sirelli, former Navy Seal, You've got this
great special on Fox Nation, the Unsung of Arlington. I
encourage everybody check it out and thank you. Thank you
for your service, to your sacrifice and the people that
you know that lost their lives serve in our country.
(12:13):
That's a special time of year. Fourth of July are
two hundred and forty ninth, Wait till two hundred and
fifty next year. Oh my goodness, gonna be a big one.
Mike Sirelli, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
All Right, go crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Thanks Jason, thank you. We'll be right back. Stay with us.
He's the show that tells climate crazies the truth.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
We cannot run the greatest economy by putting Ferry, Dush
and unicorn.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You're all right, welcome back to Fox Across America.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I'm Jason Chief. It's feeling it for Jimmy. And joining
us right now is Jonathan Fahe. He's the former acting
Ice director. Sir, thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate it,
Thank you, Thanks for having me. Hey, you're during your time,
they never had alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
What do you think of this new place of it.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
It's such a great idea, and there's so many things
that are that are interesting about this one is just
sort of the democratic apoplectic reaction to it has always
worth a lot of entertainment value, but it really just
shows that one Donald Trump is taking this issue seriously
and illegal aliens are going to be deported, and you
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know they are using all the resources.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Available to do so and to do so efficiently.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
So I think this is not only a good way
to hold people to remove them, but it's also another
thing that Donald Trump is doing that he's been the
most effective at with this administration has been the deterrent
aspect of this. Nobody's coming across the border, and the
much of that is because we have the border patrol
(13:46):
securing the border, but the messaging from Trump President Trump
and the Trump administration has been so strong that people
aren't even trying to come in anymore, and people are
starting his self deport So everything about this is a positive.
And again the high entertainment value of democratic reaction to
everything Trump says and does is certainly worked a lot
(14:07):
as well.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Well.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Certainly there's some things you know in jokes and you
can see all the memes showing up on the internet.
But the reality is we need the beds, right, I mean,
because exactly the deportation the ro of this portion of
this equation is really important because if you're going to deport,
they're not going to self deport.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
They're part of the criminal element.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
You've got to be able to house them in order
to get them together, get them on a plane. And
get them back to wherever they came from.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Yeah, exactly right. You have to make the most of
the resources we have and.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Be creative and be willing to be creative.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
To maximize bed space and other things. Because we have
the you know, the build that looks like it's passing
and it's going to add a lot more resources for ice,
but even before they get implemented, there's a lot of
time that will be in that point. So this is
a creative way to use resource and they're going to
use all of them, and that just shows the commitment
(15:03):
to this. And you really go back to you know,
you see all the reaction of the Democrats to some
of these things, but the reality is the only reason
he has to do so much of this is because
Joe Biden and Alejandra Mayorcis opened up the border and
encouraged people to come in to break our laws with
the you know, impl implication that they would get essentially
(15:26):
citizenship or amnesty in which they tried to give them in.
Democrats still want to give all the illegals for here amnesty,
at least it seems like from you know, the way
they're reacting to everything Donald Trump was doing.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, they brought him in by the millions. What do
you think of this?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
You know, now there's this app that's been developed to
give people heads up that there may be an ICE operation.
I can't even imagine you put your life on the line.
It's hard enough job, you're the former acting ICE director.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
What does this do?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I mean, this is so anti law enforcement stunning to
me that Apple even allows that to be an app
on their on their platform.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Yeah, that's a really good point about being on the
platform because the sole purpose of this app is the
thort and essentially obstruct ICE from doing their job, which
is their.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Job that they're required to do.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
And it's pretty amazing to me that there isn't more
outcry really on the democratic tide, because you do think
at this at very least makes it, you know, easy
for people to get away from ICE and get away
from being deported when they're supposed to be deported. But
the worst part about it is we have these ICE
ages that the assault rates on ICE agents. I'm sure
(16:42):
you've talked about it a lot. They're up about five
hundred percent. This shows they're far greater danger and I
think a lot of it is because of the rhetoric
that's coming out of the Democratic Party, but they're already
facing higher degrees of assaults, and this puts them at
greater danger because you know, if they're trying to arrest
somebody or anything else, is eliminates the you know, element
(17:03):
of surprise and other things. So they're they're going to
be putting nice agents in danger by doing this.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's really disgraceful.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
And you know, there's nobody on that that could even
claim at this point that the Democratic Party is anything
but an open border's amnesty party because you haven't heard
one Democrat that I know of speaking out against this.
And the other thing is, I don't think there's a
single Democrat that's spoken up in favor of Donald Trump
on this as far as the border security, because they
(17:33):
all claimed before the election they were in favor of
border security. Well, it's unquestionably true. He's given us that.
Why isn't there any praise for him, because we know
the truth is they never wanted it. They wanted mass
illegal immigration and mass amnesty, and that's that's been.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Their play all along.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
But it really is revealing these last few months.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Jonathan fayhe former acting ice director on Fox across America.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Stay with us. We'll be right now.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Nothing like getting a little Duran durand to kids you
kicked off. I'm Jason Chief. It's filling in for Jimmy.
He's already doing the vacation thing. The guy works as
hard as anybody here at Fox. So I'm glad to
get it. Get him out west, get him a little
fresh air, or get a little rest those bones a
little bit, and just be with his family.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Good for him.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I hope you are too. Hope you're going to have
a wonderful Fourth of July. Two hundred and forty nine
years this country. It'll be a great year this year,
but imagine next year, two hundred and fifty years. Oh,
that's just gonna be so great. We've got Victoria Sparts
who's joining us. She's a congresswoman, and boy, we got
a lot happening still in Congress. Normally they want to
(18:43):
be out on vacation, I know, because they used to
be in Congress.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
But you know, they still got work to do.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Because now the United States Senate has passed the big
beautiful bill. They did it with one vote, getting the
Vice President JD. Vance over there to break the fifty
to fifty die, but Congresswoman sparts, thanks for joining us
on Fox across America.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Now it's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Thank you Jason for having me. As you know, that
was the original plan. I mean, the closer the Senate,
for the Senate to jam the House before the fourth
of that life.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So that's as a road net that works in Congress
and works very well. Now we're going to see if
the House will be willing to hold the ground, to
hold the Senate to the minimum framework, or the House
is going to fold. And that's going to be a discussion.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Well that's interesting. You got you. You're a little more
I don't want to say pessimistic, but.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Maybe foreshadowing that they may not just swallow this because
that term it's not an official in the in the dictionary.
But I can tell you members of Congress and their
staff understand what a jam is if if you want
to jam the House or jam the Senate, you basically
pass the bill, leave town and dare them to not
do anything while you're already out on vacation. They just
(19:59):
kind of jam it and say, now our vote was
strong enough. But you're telling me that you think there's
going to be a pretty vibrant discussion before they put
that bill up to vote. What's that, what's that going
to look like? And where are you on this?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Alison Jason. I think everyone is agreed. There are a
lot of good things, and the text cuts are good
for the economy and border security, supporting the militaries. There
is no disagreement about that the challenges will have, how
we're going to be paying for it, that the text
cuts actually lost, that we have the money and the
funds are going to insolvent, and everything else, how we
at least can break even so we don't add to
(20:34):
the deficits. And I think the House created the framework
that the Speaker committed, he committed actually not to put
them on the floor violate the framework, and this bill
will the roughly at least half a tally short of
this minimum framework, you know where it assumes grows, but
it cannot do the more than two and a half
trillion attributed to gross and right now, I mean I
(20:55):
haven't seen all of the final amendments. I think it's
gotten a little bit worse, probably not mine, but it
will be at least half a trillion short of that framework,
So that discussion is right now, Speaker is going to
still put it on the floor in spite of you
promised he wouldn't do it. And then Republicans that you
know what part of that are they going to be
vote known this rule and that's going to be you know,
(21:17):
very challenging thas. But I think, you know, looking at that,
we're going to pass this bill. If it's not this week,
it's going to pass late in July. I know the
President wanted before the course of July. And if we
can make it work, that's great. If not, we can
wait a little bit. But it's going to pass. It's
going to be a good bill and we'll make it
more beautiful.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So process wise, it's going to pass a rule. Then
that rule's got to be brought up I my am,
assuming leadership doesn't want any amendments, and so that rule
vote is going to be an interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
One, right. The one on the floor is going to
be very interested though, because there are a lot of
buss that I thought we needed to do even more
I felt, you know, that that was the many requirement
didn't really look into a lot of fraud in the
system that you know, we have to deal with or
we go bankrupt in the country. But that was the
minimum requirement. A lot of House members signed the latter
(22:12):
you've seen that overtuity members, and now they will have
to make a decision, and the Speaker has to make
a decision is he going to bring to the floor
because him and Leader will committed not to bring it
to the floor. If they're doing that, they're violating an agreement.
And they will have to decide. All of us will
have to decide how we're going to be voting, you know.
So that's going to be a tough one.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Interesting so that happens in plays out on Wednesday. I
don't think many constituents, if the bill has not passed,
are going to understand when the river at Congress comes
home for the fourth of July. I think they're going
to say, you haven't done your work yet. You're going
to have to stay there. And it's painful that that
is away from people's family. That's usually the compulsion that
(22:53):
gets a whole lot of people to reconsider. And also
the President of the United States when he starts leaning
into this and making calls. It's amazing how persuasive Donald
Trump could be at that very moment. Is are you
going to have to be on that call list or
are we got these same usual suspects.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Well, listen, I think there are a lot of They've
been invited. How has been making calls and they have
good discussions with them. I shure it with President and
my thoughts, and I think it's important for us to
have communications and the President, I understand he would like
to have it before the course of July, but it's
not a mass or is not The wall is not
going to end, and not much is going to change
if it's not. So I think we need to understand
(23:34):
that it's going to pass in July. It's going to
be very good bill. I think it's going to be
important bill. But if we have to work out a
few things, we can make it work. And I think
it's important to understand this is going to be really
the only major bills that are going to pass this Congress,
and I think it's important to make it right even
if we wait a week or two. I mean, text
(23:54):
cuts are not expiring till the end of the years,
or is nothing there as urgent. We have some still
room with that ceiling, which another conversation, so we still
have a room. It doesn't have to be the only
reason they try to push us on July Force. And
we don't even have to be there. We can all
go July Force and come back. You know. There is
only reason it's pushed because there is a you know,
the Senate wants to jam us, you know, and for
(24:16):
the House boat before the July Force. That's the only
reason that it works like that. There is no other
legitimate reason to do it before July Force.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
You're on the House Judiciary Committee. I was on the
House Judiciary Committee, and Judiciary has jurisdiction on homeland security.
Even though there's a Homeland Security Committee, they're really the
jurisdiction particular, and immigration falls with House Judiciary. What the
President's been down in Florida visiting the so called Alligator Alcatraz.
(24:48):
What's your take on the move there? It did open
up five thousand beds. I think people start occupying that
starting tomorrow. What's your take on it?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Well, listen, I think it's important for us to not
to enforce the law and to secure our country and
secure our border and make sure that we don't have
illegal criminals here coming here legally destabilizing the kind of
roaming around. So I think President was being making some
tough stance. I think President was supporting and a lot
(25:18):
of these decisions by Supreme Court because we cannot have
this slawlessness. We're the rule of law country and that's
what we differentiated from anarchists, and we cannot let cartels
run our country, which is really unfortunately it's been happening
under last administration and control our border. So I think
it's important what he's doing. It's important to support border security,
(25:39):
which Bill actually will do, and give more funding to
proper causes. We just need to make sure that we
come after bad staff, that we have money for the
good staff, and I think that's extremely important. And the
law enforcement and the president doing is the border. It's great,
and unfortunately we have this law so broad that the
Committee never dealt with them to tighten them. That allows
(26:00):
them administrations to abuse it like what happened in the
previous one. That is actually failure of Congress not to
pass battle laws. And I think last Congress we had
missed opportunity to tighten them. So it will improve under
this president, but hopefully at some point Congress will step
up and actually pass battle laws that we cannot have
(26:21):
next president abuse them again.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
We're talking to Congresswoman Victorious Sparts from Indiana's fifth congressional district.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Congresswoman, when you we were.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Talking about this with the former ICE director, you see
that there's an app out there now that gives warning
for when there's an ICE operation or ICE officers around.
What's your take on that? What do you what do
you think should be done? I mean Apple's putting this
out there on their platform for goodness sake.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well, I think, you know, we need a start really
common and a lot of this big tech company so
been have a lot of political power. They collect a
lot of data and they abuse data. So I think
that's another issue that Congress, you know, they're not dealt with.
How do we need to make sure that we don't
have powerhouses of data collections that are able to use
(27:12):
even if they want and their own judgment, we thought
that how they did a lot of censoring, how they
did a lot of abuses, less Congress and less presidency,
and right now they actually intervening in law enforcement operations.
So I think we need to come and start investigating that.
But also how Congress can do better data protection and
(27:33):
privacy that they don't collect as much data as on
all of us. And I think that's something that you know,
we haven't dealt with. And actually, that is one of
the issues that I was disappointed that we haven't addressed
it as judiciary when I served the net.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Well, that's why I wrote this book. It's out today.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
It's called They're Coming for You, and it is all
about the data and how the data is going to
be weaponized to come after us. And and you're right,
this is an example of that. And and I think
people are very naive to how much data is flowing
in and out of government, how the government is collecting data.
Then they're selling the data, but then they're also buying
(28:09):
the data, which is just crazy because that's how they
get around the need for warrants and surveillance and other
things that we limit law enforcement from doing. But then
then they can just go buy it and they say, oh, well,
that's not an invasion of privacy.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
We bought it on the open market.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
But on the other hand, it can be used for
nefarious intent like oh, I don't know, targeting ice officers,
doxing them. You have video now of these people just
taunting these people in Portland saying that they're going to
dox their federal employees, and you know, these are law
enforcement officers just trying to do their jobs for goodness sake.
(28:49):
I hear Democrats are just crickets on this, But I
do think Congress should and could do more on this
very topic.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, and I think would rob the bone dec issue.
That's the biggest issue because data is actually property and
kind of supposed to protect people's rights to life, liberty,
and property, and it's a new type of property. We
never define it, We never really did proper protections, and
we have to so we're actually abandon our job protecting
the people and their property. We still want to make
(29:19):
sure that we have innovations and AI working way it
needs to be, but also stop up of users and
prevents the data collection that with AI and quantity computers
will allow to some of the companies and governments, to
and including foreign governments, to manipulate people and it's very dangerous.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Absolutely, We're going to talk a little bit more about
that again. My book is They're coming for you Today's
day one of those sales and uh, Congresswoman Victorious sports,
I'm glad to hear you talking about it, because those
are the types of things that really should be deal
dealt with. When I was in on the House Judiciary,
in the House Oversight Committee, boy, we tried to deal
with facial recognition and data collection and whatnot. But boy,
(30:00):
it's hard because very few members of Congress actually have
a background in this, and it's tough to deal with.
But listen, we appreciate Fox across America you share in
your perspective. Hope you have a wonderful fourth of July,
and we're looking in great fascination as to what happens
tomorrow with that one big beautiful Bill victorious parts Indiana's
(30:23):
fifth Congressional District.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Congresswoman, thanks for joining.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Us, Thank you for having me. Jason, Happy Independence Day.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, yes, stay with us. We'll be right back and
speak to Jimmy now. Triple eight seven eight ninety nine ten.
You're listening to Fox Across America with Jimmy Taylor.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
You're listening to Fox Jason Chafe. It's filling it for Jimmy.
And we're going to take some calls right now if
you can. I think we got Freddy down in Florida. Freddy,
what's happening.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Hello, Hello, and I want to say I'm sorry you
caught me a little up.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Gray.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Well, you've been waiting a little while. I appreciate you
waiting because we had a couple of guests. But Freddie,
you're up now, all right.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I'm a former New Yorker in Florida now many years.
But what I wanted to do was a little bit
concerned about that election or potential up there for mum Donnie.
I think if the election were more binary, we'd have
a much better chance of squelching his attempt to become
mayor Eric Robert Eric Adams mayor. Adams has to become
(31:36):
a Republican and then have a primary for that position
with Curtis Sliwa, who I grew up with, by the way,
or vice versa. Maybe Curtis takes the range and Adams
bows out, but you need one against the other. I
think if you have all three, you increase the odds
of this fellow, the socialist, getting the rains.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
No, I think they're there's a lot.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Of a mechanism.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, look, you know, each state in the city gets
to kind of do things their own way. I think
there's beauty and smart in that system. But I do
not like rank choice voting. And it's true when you
diversify and you have so many people at the final
it's not a choice between one, two or three people you.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Get you.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Spread people out to then that they start dividing the vote,
and you know, Cuomo stay in the race, he'll take
some Democrats who instead of voting against Mom Donny would
vote for somebody like that as opposed to say and
Eric Adams. So I don't know how it's going to
sort itself out, but you make a just a keen observation,
(32:48):
which is, yeah, there's got to be a more solid way.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Of doing that.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
But you know, he did get what is it, fifty
six percent of the vote is pretty impressive actually on
the Democratic side of the aisle, but it's been taken
over by the Socialists, and I think that's happening nationwide.
I don't think that's a New York only phenomenon.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
What do you think, Well, I agree wholeheartedly with what
you're saying, but I think there's more a closet Republicans
up in New York than of years past.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, I mean, look how well Lee Zelden, Look how
well Donald Trump did I mean Zelden, you know, was
starting to become really viable there, and I think that's true.
I don't know if it's as true, you know, right
in the heart of New York City as opposed to
upstate and other parts of the of the state that smoothed.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
It out a little bit.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
But Freddie, I'm going to try to get one more
call from Florida and before we go to break here,
So thanks for sharing that, thanks for holding on for it.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
That does.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Let's try Wally, he's also in Florida. What you're what
are you thinking about, Wally, Hey.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Jason, I think the election of zoke On Momdani as
a mayor would be a great thing for the country.
And my observation is that he will show the liberals
and progress and what poor leadership and financial mismanagement can
do to even a great economy like New York. And
(34:17):
I just think it'd be a great lesson for the
country to let him, let him do his thing, and
he'll return New York City to the nineteen seventies, and
then we can also see with good leadership, how great,
how quickly you can turn that around.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Well, it's amazing because I think the principles of our country,
just basic capitalism, which he says he's opposed to the
idea that he wants to, you know, go after the
white neighborhoods, that he wants to have government run grocery stores. Yeah,
they're very you see how.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
That's what But that's that's actually what people need to
see in reality.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, I heard, I've read this post by Charlie Kirk,
who I really follow and admire and one of the
smarter people out there, and always I don't know if
you follow her, we're watch him what he does. But
he'll answer any question from anyone, and he has a nice,
good debate back. And Charlie Kirk said, you know what,
but I love America too much. I love New York,
(35:17):
and it's worth saving and fighting for rather than just
letting it be an experiment. And I think there's probably
a little there's a lot more truth to that. So
I think I probably personally I follow a little bit
more into the Charlie Kirk camp.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
But Wally, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Some people say, hey, let it fail, let us show it.
But you know what, people are going to flee this city.
They can't do business in this city if you're Jewish.
I don't know why you would reside here. It's just unbelievable,
how radical left. But I think this is a bigger,
broader problem for Democrats because I think he personifies with
AOC and some others how radical left the Democrats of
(35:56):
today have been. I'm Jason Chafits filling in for Jimmy.
This is Fox across America. Thanks so much for sharing
part of your.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
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