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July 16, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from wo R from Everywhere, USA.
It's Fox Across America with Jimmy Falo.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh you're damn right it is, and we are fired
up in this hour to bring you just an absolute
embarrassment of radio riches.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's Fox Across America with Jimmy Fayla.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
And in the interest of full disclosure, we would normally
have our guest on maybe halfway through the hour, but
every once in a while you get someone of such
significance that you have to break those rules, not so
much for their significance, but because of the expletive lading
tirade you will get from them directly if they're not
on at the top of the hour. None of this
is true, but we are thrilled to have Steve Hilton

(00:38):
back on the show.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yo, Steve Hilton, Okay, so can I start the tirade now?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Let's get it go with dosh, fire up the dumb button,
Governor Hilton that I don't want to refer to you
as just beep away. Here we go. I will have
you know. It's a great obviously to have you back
in New York. We get on just fine. But I
was just in York State I was in California. I
know how bad we go. Yeah, if you think you
have some pointers to give out, I've got a few.

(01:02):
But no, it was actually now we were in northern California.
We were in Carmel, and then we went, yeah, you can't,
you can't Carmel. Yeah, Carmel is actually so nice that
like every restaurant I went into was like, sorry, sir,
we're not hiring.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I was like, no, no, I swear I'm here. I'm
on vacation. Can I just tell you this story?

Speaker 4 (01:18):
How long?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I gay very quickly, so I when I'm on the
road in California. Now we have an official campaign truck,
Steve Hilton for governor and all that, but I used
to always rent trucks. I was invited to a very
fancy dinner in bel Air in Los Angeles, and I
was late because I was doing Trace Gallagher's show. And

(01:40):
I arrived late and I drive up in my truck
and they look at me and say, you're a bit late,
but you just head on round the back.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
And they literally thought that this was like the caterer exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I go in, there's all these no bit wait, now
I go in, there's all these fancy people. And I
was explaining that the reason I had the truck, and
I was just telling this story, joky story, and I
I just mentioned that I rented the truck from Avis.
And then this lady, this, this very elegant ladies in
this very classic French action. Guy, I'm so eppy you
are renting from Avis, I said, why would you care?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
My late husband, he is the founder of Avis. Stop. Yes,
I said, I am Jana Avis. I said what.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
First of all, I didn't know that a guy.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I mean, there's a guy named Jim Enterprise right.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
And then because this is the wind, and like the
whole thing was like, okay, only in America does that
kind of thing happened?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Love it well, something that might even renew your faith
and fancy Carmel by the Sea, California, which is a
gorgeous place. Clinice would, of course, was the mayor there
once by Bolhemian Artie Vibe. We were staying at the
Carmel Beach Hotel. The house directly behind it had a
huge banner on the balcony with an American flag and
a sign that said Newsome sucks.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Everywhere you go.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
It's getting louder the voices of sanity in California.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
It is weird. It's like it's its own maga out there.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
He throws on a Newsome sucks thing, And what's crazy
about it to me is that he has He's really
you talk about dumping gasoline on a fire for a
guy who doesn't like gasoline and fossil fuels, he's really
leaning into this defensive Ice thing.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Is incredible.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
It's you know that politically they think it's a lifeline.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Just think about what's going on in California, Like for Newsome, statewide,
we have the worst results of any state, the worst
run state, highest taxes, poverty, homeless or everything going wrong
right Karen Bass in La total disaster. The city is
a mess, both of them on the fires, total disaster.
And for them this is like finally something that they

(03:41):
can grab onto attacking Trump, attacking Ice to make themselves
feel better with their base politically. But I don't think
long term it's going to play because most people are
sick of all this uncontrolled illegal immigration. I speak to
legal immigrants the whole time, East La, very strong Latino
can unity.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
They're sick of it.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I say, we're here doing it the right way, paying taxes,
and we are sick of seeing these people.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
This is how they took is that in the.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Grocery store, EBT cards from the government, free cell phones,
housing that's free, on and on, Like, we don't get that.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
What's this all about?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Now, imagine though you live out in LA and you're paying,
they're not even considered taxes like the taxes in LA.
It's like a dominatrix like you just like the beating.
They're just taking your money, calling your names. There might
not necessarily be enough water to fight a fire for
breaks out, but now you're watching Karen Bass propose a
cash benefits to illegal immigrants. We're scared of going to work.

(04:38):
And to be clear, if anybody's scared, it's because she's
not cooperating.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
That exactly.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I'm so glad you said that is the why they
scared number one, because she's running around doing the fear
mung green. Number two. You wouldn't even have to have
any of that going on if she cooperated, which is
by the way, part of the California sanctuary state law. Yeah,
everyone's got to understand it. They hide behind and there's oh,
nothing we can do. Sanctuary state. Even within the sanctuary

(05:03):
state law, there's a section which I've read and I
would enforce, that says, for a long list of crimes
that if an illegal immigrant has been convicted of in
the last fifteen years, you've got discretion to cooperate with ice.
Of course, they're not doing that. That's why you have
these kinds of operations, because they won't go. You don't
see this in Florida, yep, because DeSantis, quite rightly is

(05:23):
working very closely with the administration to enforce the law.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean, you think about it. We're talking to Steve Hilton,
the man who very well should be the next governor
of California. There's a basic compass that's inherent everyone who
grew up in this country. If you were a little kid,
you played two games in your backyard. Okay, you played
Cops and Robbers. The other game was called Cowboys and
Elizabeth Warrens.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
That was the game.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Okay, But in Cops and Robbers, cops good, robbers bad.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Only in California. My goodness.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh, we're debating whether or not this is a thing.
And I bring this up because you know how Donald
Trump obviously found so much traction and deserved traction and
saying I'm going to put America first.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yes, Okay, does.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
It ever occur to you in your brain that California
does need a governor that for all intents and purposes
puts cat paying California citizens first in its own state?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
And that very simple.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I was going to say. It is an idea.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
It's just like an expectation enforce the law because it's
not just on this issue. On every issue, they just
completely ignore it. Homelessness right, that's illegal. Street encampments is illegal,
has been illegal for decades.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
They just ignore it.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
The shoplifting, retail theft, let it just happen on and
on right through the system. And this is the thing
I hear from all the time from people like it
feels like and it's the truth. If you do the
right thing in California, you're punished, yep. If you do
the wrong thing, you're rewarded. And that's got to be changed.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, it's almost a broken compass.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
And what you really have going for you more than
anything else beyond your stunning good looks and oh they
you know, I'm reading it right off the card the
way you wrote it down. I hope it sounded goods out.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's a email got through. I spent the whole commercial
break and I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
But the truth is, I think there is a reset
taking place in that state because I talked to so
many people who I've been I've been hanging out in
California probably about you know, eight or ten years. And
you know, maybe so let's say eight years ago, someone
might see me at the airport and say like, hey man,
I watch Fox. It ain't like that now now they're like,
we love Fox, And.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Really, you're exactly right. I'm feeling it the whole time.
I see exactly that kind of reaction and that kind
of change, and you know, it's it's it's early days,
but it's feeling good to me. Just today, newpole came out.
I'm leading, I'm leading all the Democrats in a situation
where they put Kamala Harris in there. She's she clears
the field for the Democrats pretty much. But I'm right

(07:47):
there with her as the real challenger, and I think
we've got a shot because for a long time, I
think there's been this sort of assumption that a Republican.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Can never win.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
It's too democratic. I'm total that's not true. There's play
tent of Republican votes. Here's a simple way of putting it.
If everybody who voted for Trump in California last year
votes for me next year, I'll win. I'll be the governor.
So we just got to five people up and say
this time we can do it. Here's a positive alternas
if it doesn't have to be like this, you don't
have to put up with this nonsense.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Let's go for it.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
And honestly, we're talking to Steve Hilton, the managship bit
of the next governor in great state of California. I
think they're having it's almost like a COVID moment. You know,
most people around the country saw how much damage a
government can do when responding to a crisis. I think
anybody trying to rebuild a house right now or exactly,
or you know, are being told they're rezoning the palisades
and they're not rebuilding a house, sees what kind of

(08:39):
damage government can do. And if anybody has earned a
middle finger from the voters after decades of one party rule,
it is the current Democratic Party exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
And there's no.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Way you could look at say Kamala Harris if she
becomes that standard bearer on that side. There's no way
you could draw any distinction between her policies and the
ones that are currently there exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
And she's you know, she's the architect.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Remember, she's been knocking around in maybe not used that,
you know, in California.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Politics for a long somebody made a Willie Brown joke somewhere,
but I know where you were going for.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I know you're running a classic a long time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
And you know, she was the state attorney general when
the insane Prop forty seven was passed that basically decriminalized crime,
but also Prop fifty seven, which is still an operation,
which downgraded a whole bunch of crimes. So that's why,
and led and part of the prison closure program. So
I have so many dangerous, violent criminals on the streets.
She's an architect of the failure. And here's the way

(09:34):
I put it. Next year in California is going to
be a change election. Over sixty percent of the voters
now say the state's going in the wrong direction. So
the candidate who's going to win is the candidate for change.
How can she be that she's like the opposite of change?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Now, I asked me this would a governor Steve Hilton
be concerned that if the Republicans take power, thousands of
underage marijuana farmers are going to lose their jobs.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I mean exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I mean it's going to be very tough to take
on the Democrats, the party of child slave labor, and
that's gonna be a tough one.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Everything I say to you in seriousness, I feel like
as a joke we could have wrote in preparation for
the interview. But you see Newsom on TV defending a
raid on underraged marijuana farmers, like, that's crazy to me.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
It is, But there's so many things like that you
just think, like, how do they Here's another one. Okay,
we're talking about the Senate bill and Putin right and
that whole thing, and Trump saying, yeah, we've got to
get behind that. We've got to stop the war sanction
putin all these countries that are helping Putin's war machine
by buying his or guess who you could put on
that list, Yeah, Gavin Newsom's California, because he's shutting down

(10:39):
our own oil and gas industry in California, driving out
the refineries because of the regulations and the insane climate extremism.
So we are now importing finished gasoline from countries including India.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Guess where they get it. Russia.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
So we in California, because of their climate extremism, are
helping Putin's war machine.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, it's insane. It's insane think about all these attacks.
But we're basically, you can't wage these attacks if you
don't have the money to do it. And that's been
the offshoot of the whole Biden presidency because that's where
that started. It's like they doubled Putin's allowance exactly, and
he was like, Ukraine, here we come. And it is
a mess. But listen, man, I was there and I
was very heartened. I was several neighborhoods I was in

(11:19):
had a Monterey had them on houses. The newsom sucks,
So a lot of a lot of things, a lot
of American flags, some people defiantly, one or two people
had Kamalas signs up, but they were bars.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I mean, they make a lot of.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Money off comony, you know, whether you whether it's her
or somebody who donated. They're drinking right now. They're still
drinking off that election. But I love the direction that's trending.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
In.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
It reminds me a lot of what I saw in
New York in terms of progress you used to four
years ago or eight years ago. You know, get a
lot of people on the street. I told you they
watched Fox, but they'd use a lot of discretion to
do so.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
It ain't like that.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's not you know, people just feel happy they can
tell the truth. They're gonna be counseled, common sensus coming back.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's a real revolution.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yes, And the idea that you've said I can perform
at your inauguration if you win means a lot to me.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean I didn't. I wasn't necessary.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
It is basically the reason I'm doing this whole thing now.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
To be clear, you said I could be dishing out
food at the catering trade. But the point is I
consider that a performance. I'll have some jokes to tell
that the.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
GENERALTI tossking, and I think we're gonna need it when.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I'll be working the rolling bar, make America gin again.
That'll be Jimmy Fail. That's good to me, the great
Steve Hilton, best of luck to you, my man.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Good to be Vincy, the host who always has gifts
for his listeners.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Take some grass, a few efforts, little nose, candy, no candy.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
It's Fox Across America with Jimmy Faylot, Fox Across America
with Jimmy Fayle.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
A shout out to Steve hilton Man, who should be
the next governor of the great state of California. If
they know what's good for them, Why California First. Maybe
I coined the policy. I don't know if people are
out there using it, but it's the same process that
makes Trump appealing to so many people. When Trump says
America First, you know, they try to tell you in
the media that's like white nationalism or racism or something

(13:09):
like that.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's what they'll say. That is a fact check false.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Now, America first means every tax paying citizen in this country,
which is the most inclusive country in the world. It's
the most diverse and inclusive country in the world. There's
not even a comparable close second to what we have
in America in terms of religious tolerance, sexual tolerance, and yes,
multicultural diversity. And this is a country built on immigration,

(13:33):
but it is legal. What they're fighting for out in
California is specifically a legal immigration, like specifically imagine if
you paid the highest taxes in America, your house burnt
down because the fire department was like, yeah, we don't
have any water because we had this woke climate change policy,
so we sent all the water out into the ocean.
The fire hydrants are empty, and oh, by the way, yeah,

(13:55):
we don't have a lot of firefighters. We fired two
thousand of them because of the vaccine and implemented a
DEI program that put a lesbian in charge of the
fire department. Which is fine if he wants to fight fires,
that's great if that's the number one priority. But how
many videos did we watch in the aftermath of those
fires talking to us about how much diversity forced them
to lower some of the hiring standards just the same

(14:18):
and prioritize the identity of the firefighter instead of the
aptitude of the firefighter. Guys, if your house is on fire,
you do not call nine one one and say send
me a lesbian. Okay, trust there are numbers you can
dial and say send me a lesbian. Believe we've Mikey
calls them all the time when we're on the road.
I kid, But the point is they're fighting a lot
of the wrong battles. And with Steve Hilton, who is

(14:39):
an all around brilliant guy, really brings to the table.
Is not like this, You know, you've really got a
study to get what he's saying. It's so profound and
out there. It's actually just basic fundamental baseball, Basic fundamental baseball.
You put the tax paying citizens first, You enforce the laws,
and if the government's going to take everybody's tax, they're

(15:00):
going to spend it on things that pursue the interest
of American citizens, not people coming to this country illegally
demanding free stuff and telling us we're a bunch of
racist dirt bags. You know, is there anything crazier than
an anti ICE rally where they're lighting the American flag
on fire and waving the Mexican flag as a means
of saying they don't want to come back to Mexico.

(15:25):
Think about how dumb that is. You're not sending us
back to Mexico. We're gonna wave our Mexican flag. Wait,
if it's so great, why don't you want to go back?
If America is so bad, why to just sneak in?
Do you get it? These are not people thinking about citizenship.
These are people who came in here illegally at the
behest of the last administration. Doesn't value their lives or

(15:45):
their prosperity, just seize them as a way to get
counted in the census, get more money out of Washington,
and oh yeah, draw up a few additional congressional districts
based on the increased migration population, which allows them to
gain additional seats in Congress.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
That's what went on.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Illegal immigrants being caught counted in the last census increased
the Democrat congressional representation by seventeen seats. So when you
think about these bills, Trump passes okay by one vote
in the Senate, by three votes in the House. Those
bills might be fifteen points. You know, the gap might
be fifteen votes wider if they weren't counting illegal immigrants.

(16:21):
So imagine that's what the Democrats have to do to
make this close because they can't sell their ideas. And again,
I'm gonna settle it in the ring. Guy, I got
into comedy when I was twenty seven. You've already aged
out of showbiz. You know how old people are going
to get cast a Saturday Night Live and big comedy shows.
Eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one, me and my buddy Dean Imperial.
On the day we met, we were handing out flyers
in Times Square. He said, I'm gimmmge, you know, I'm

(16:43):
Jimmy Mdan and all that, and I said, I just
want to congratulate you and entering showbiz six years after
the sell by date, Like we've decided to pursue this
after we've already completely aged out of the industry, and
we had, but we understood if we were ever going
to close that gap someday and get to what we
wanted to be as kid kids, we're just gonna have
to settle it in the ring. Just do better work
than everybody else, and keep doing better work than anybody else,

(17:06):
and maybe someday they'll call your number. Well, in my case,
someday took another twenty years, but we got there. And
I say that because I'm on board with losing to
the Democrats in every election. If we do this based
on ideas, and they're good ideas that help the country,
but if they're going to continue to run for office
on we're racist. If we want to enforce the law,
we're racist. If we want to protect the identity of

(17:26):
Ice who's tasked with deporting rapists and murderers. Okay, then
there's no world where they deserve to be in charge
of the country. You shouldn't be in charge of something
you openly express hatred for. That is straight up okay.
If you've got a daughter and a guy shows up
to the door tonight and you're like, hey, what are
your plans with my daughter? And he goes, I don't know,
I can't stand this. You're probably not letting her go

(17:47):
to the movies with that guy? Straight up okay. I
mean the only dad in history who let it happen
was Hillary Clinton's dad.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
What do you do with my daughter? Feels like, I
don't know. She was like my third option, but I'll
figure out a way to make it work.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
This is not okay, Well, the jokes on him. She
put hot sauce on his nuts.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
That's us. Yes, it's all slacktivism. It's not real. Like
I'll give you an example.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I love when you go to the mall and Lululemon
has that big sign up outside the store that goes
in this store, we don't tolerate racism or bigotry or homophobia.
I'm like, I love how they say that, as if
there's this other store on.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
The other side of the mall.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's like, we are your racism and bigotry headquarters. Come
for the low prices, state of drink from a separate
water fountain. Bad credit, no credit, You're probably Mexican.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Wow, it is Fox Across America with Jimmy Fayler. They're
playing clips from Punchlines and Patriots, myself and Sean Hannity.
It is streaming now on Fire Nation. You better go
check it out. They're advertising it on the channel. That's
a big deal. They throw it on the channel like, Hey,
this is the thing we're doing over on Fox Nation.
You got to come by. That's not really how the
announcer sounds. But the point is, I'm really proud of

(19:12):
this one. It was great. Hannity was great, The Q
and a Wase insane, The meet and greet was fantastic.
Everybody at the Ruth hackerd Hall was a top notch,
and of course the Fox Nation team is the best
of the absolute best. They also shot my stand up special,
They're Just Jokes, which is also streaming on Fox Nation.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
But that new one premiered today.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
We're really proud of it, and we do want you
to go check it out because it's kind of just
a celebration of America. I mean, that's the whole hook
of Hannity myself and the whole Fox platform is we're
in on the jokes, greatest country in the world, and
you'll all have American privilege, and it doesn't mean our
politics need to be divided in the sense that we
hate people or we want to fight with people. We

(19:53):
want to make fun of political differences, and that's what
Punchlines and Patriots is. It's a celebration of our political
differences in a way that I think all of you
will find great joy in consuming. With that said, let's
get the promo out of the way. We got some
radio to do, all right, So what the hell is

(20:13):
going on, Jimmy with this frickin' Epstein list? Wo r
Do you listen to me every night on that station?
You hear me every Tuesday morning on with Larry MENTI
in the Morning. This was my first day back on
his show since vacation, and he wanted to know about
you know, what do you think of the Epstein List?
And as you've been following the story from Afar. I

(20:36):
keep telling you, I believe Jeffrey Epstein's death is proof
that our two political parties can still work together if
they want it badly enough. Do I know that they
killed him? No, And everybody has convincingly told me he
killed himself. But every time, you know, the Godfather, whatever
I didn't got out, they just reeled me back in. Okay,

(20:57):
here is Michael Franzis. He is the criminal that was
in Epstein's cell at one point. Here he is on
News Nation last night talking about Epstein.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Clip ten.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
There's no way you are able to commit suicide. There's
just no way. There's no way to hang yourself. There's
nothing from the ceiling, there's nothing from the You'd have
to be a midget and work really hard to try
to hang yourself, and I don't think you can accomplish
it at that point. You know. As far as the
cameras being off, I haven't experienced that. I did eight
years in prison, and I haven't experienced cameras being broken

(21:31):
and the perfect storm of correctional officers not walking those cells.
They walk in and they look in on you all
the time. As a matter of fact, you know, sometimes
it's embarrassing to go to the toilet because they're walking
past you and looking in the cell constantly. So I've
said this from day one. I do not believe it
was suicide. I can't talk about what happened to him,

(21:52):
but I don't believe it was a suicide because you
just couldn't physically do it. It's almost it would be
almost impossible.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Found dead moments later, that guy's still very much alive.
But I mean the candor, he's a man who spent
time in that very same cell and said there's no
way to kill himself. Now, Poul Morrow was here yesterday
and Paul Morrow told me that he absolutely positively believes

(22:22):
there'd be no way to kill him in there unless
there were, you know, fifty to one hundred people who
were in on it, and at which point they'd all
be keeping that secret. And I said, well, what if
it's like the moon landing, Because people always say, you know,
if we fake the moon landing, and I'm not telling
you we fake the moon landing. But the argument I
always get is, well, two hundred thousand people worked on
the moon landing. You expect that many people to keep
a secret no, I expect them all to believe it's real,

(22:44):
and the four guys in the capsule and the one
guy in Houston to know it's fake. That's what I
would believe, and everybody else would just be watching the monitors, going, well,
they did it. Meanwhile, they're landed, and if you squint,
you can see an in and out sign behind the
sound stage in Burbank where they filmed the landing. I'm
not saying we fake the moonling. I'm just saying when
people present an argument of hey, there's so many people involved,

(23:05):
they wouldn't all keep a secret. Yeah, that's why you
wouldn't let them all in on it. But I don't
know the answer. Okay, but who the people sparking interest now?
I mean you can talk about the people on Twitter
and the right wing guys who won't take this at
face value, but the people sparking the most interests are
liberals because now they see this Epstein thing as an
opening against them to go after Trump. And it really

(23:28):
speaks to how transactional the Democrats are. The Democrats just
had Joe Biden in power for four years.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I don't remember that ever happening, but it did.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
The Democrats controlled the Senate and the House. Was they
a single solitary Democrat calling for the release of the
Epstein list.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
So what changed, you guys?

Speaker 5 (23:53):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, they know Trump's basis mad at him for how
this thing has gotten handled. I don't mean the entirety
of the base, because most people are prioritizing inflation and
jobs and the border and taxes and things like that.
I'm not saying this is nearly the boondoggle for Trump
that people are saying it is. You know, is he
going to catch heat on Twitter or x or whatever
Elon gets stoned and calls it next? Absolutely, But is

(24:17):
it something in the real world that's going to set
him back, you know, ten or fifteen points with a
base of voter answer would be no, it's not.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
I mean, that's just reality. It's not.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
But that being said, people are upset and the Democrats
are suddenly trying to prey upon and you know, maybe
weaponize that anti Trumps sentiment on the far far right.
But what they get wrong about the transactional nature of
how they attack Trump for doing something they also did.
They didn't release the Epstein list. If it's out there,
If this information is known, here's the news flash, guys.

(24:53):
Epstein's plea deal is fifteen years old, So that information
has been sitting around ever since. And they didn't do
it on Obama, they didn't do it under Trump when
he was president, they didn't do it when Biden was president,
and they're now suddenly calling for it during this second
Trump term. The information's been out there fifteen years. So
what changed? Oh yeah, the desperation of that political party.

(25:15):
So here's kit Keem Jeffries saying Americans deserve to know
the truth.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
This is embarrassing. Clip six.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
The American people deserve to know the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth as it relates to this whole,
sordid Jeffrey Epstein matter. Democrats didn't put the Jeffrey Epstein
thing into the public domain. This was a conspiracy that
Donald Trump, Pam Bondi, and these Macca extremists have been
fanning the flames of for the last several years, and

(25:44):
now the chickens are coming home to roost. The American
people deserve to know the truth. What if anything is
a Trump administration and the Department of Justice.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Hiding Oh wow, that was embarrassing. I mean, if there's
something being hidden. Shouldn't the Democrats have surfaced it when
they held the majority in both houses?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
The point is it Keeme Jeffries is full of Here's
Alan Dershowitz. I played you as clip on Friday, and
he had sat on Friday. He knows for a fact
as the attorney who negotiated the plea deal. There are
specific names being protected. That was in March. That clip
I played you from this past Friday was in March.
Now that the list hasn't come out, he has slightly

(26:28):
adjusted his analysis. I don't know his motivation, but he's
saying there is not and has never been a client list.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Clip eight.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Is the government hiding a client list or anything.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
That the Trump administration could release tonight. No, there is
no client list. There never has been a client list.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
A client list suggests that Jeffrey Epstein made a list
of people to whom he trafficked women. What there is
is a redacted FBIF today from accusers, and there are
several of them from accusers that accuse Jeffrey, that accused
various people of having improper sex, and that has been redacted.

(27:14):
The names of the people accused have been blacked out now.
Of course, because I was the lawyer and I did
only investigations. I know who all these people are. I
could figure out based on everything that I saw who
mister X's, mister Wyare's, and mister Z.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I can tell you right now.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
None of them are public figures who are currently in office,
some of them were previously in office, some of them
are dead.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
But there is no client lists. So that's him saying
there's no client list. Okay, it's just you know, accusers
and people like him who were accused, and he sued
one of his accusers and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
But it sounds a little different from.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
March is like I know who they are, I know
who's being covered up and when communication has handled this poorly.
If you're someone who takes this as an opportunity to
fill the void with your own speculation, it actually makes
this get worse.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Here is Dershowitz. The rest of the clip clip nine.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
The redactions could be undone if you go to court.
So many of the things that are being suppressed or
being suppressed by two judges in Manhattan, and they're doing
it largely to protect the alleged accusers who are in
the view of the judge's victims, even though we don't
know what their actual status is. But the judges have

(28:41):
issued orders, which is why I can't disclose things I'd
love to disclose.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Saying that you can't disclose this information.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
But Pam Bondi and the Justice Department and Donald Trump
are not responsible for that. I don't know of any
information that they could disclose that they haven't disclosed. Now
maybe they're there are some, but I'm simply not aware
of it. And so I think it's important to place
the blame where the blame deserves to be placed.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
So that's Dershowitz, And now he's saying the blame deserves
to be placed on who. I guess Epstein. I don't know, man,
I listen. I just I pride myself on being as
honest with you guys as I can, and I don't
know as honest.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Because I completely totally get why they'd want to move
on from this, because there's no if there's truly no
deliverable you know, as much as you want the Epstein
stuff out and if there's stuff to out, there's this
other reality that if you're the president of the United States,
and you're prioritizing this big box agenda of prosperity and

(29:46):
a greater good for all Americans. You don't necessarily find
the salacious Epstein stuff is something that can get put
on people's kitchen table.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
It isn't it's Giano Coldwell treated this this morning. He's like,
it's not a kitchen table issue. I'm like, yeah, no,
right about that. It's actually a massage table issue. I mean,
if we're gonna be honest, but what's fascinating to me.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Because they're moving on.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
There's no version of this, like if Bongino quits the
Dojack it, that does not end with you getting your
hands on the list. Okay, I know there's a lot
of posturing. Do you remember when Dan was gonna quit
radio because of the vaccine mandate and he was like,
and if they don't change their policy. They didn't change
the policy. They work something out for him. He was
able to stay on radio, but have that tough guy
I'm taking a stand street credit, which is good and

(30:31):
it's admirable if that's what you stand for. But it's
the same thing with the Epstein stuff. He went on
TV and said something that was the polar opposite of
what he'd been saying for five years, which to a
lot of people made him look like he was a
part of the very cover up he told us was
going on when he wasn't a part of the government.
Now he may have just seen contradictory evidence and was like, wow,
you know, son of a he actually killed himself. He

(30:55):
might feel that way, but he might actually feel that
way knowing that there's more information that can be shared,
and it's now being explained to him that it can't
be shared. Okay, when Pam Bondi put a binder out
that said phase one, you don't call it phase one
if you're not making a phase two or a three
or a four. You just put out the binder Epstein Files.

(31:16):
Epstein Files. Phase one implies that there are more phases,
and it's wild to watch like the Joe Scarborough's of
the world, guys who would shoot down any Epstein conspiracy, Okay,
Guys that were in no rush to get any documentation
that might be out there out there because they knew
how heavily involved. Guys like the Clintons were in this
sort of thing. But this is where we find ourselves now.

(31:38):
Here is Scarborough dunking on all the podcasters Clip twelve.

Speaker 7 (31:43):
These podcasters who built their careers, who made millions of dollars, telling.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
You that there was this Jeffrey Epstein list and they
were going to get to the bottom of it. They
were going to tell the truth about it.

Speaker 7 (31:54):
They were going to make the government tell the And
then they go to the White House holding up these files,
the Epstein files, you know, inside they were like Bazook
and Jael cartoons, like it was absolutely crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
And then the Attorney General gets some peop where this
is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
You it's disgusting what these people did, and we're gonna
release it all.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
What happened I don't understand what happened in twenty four hours.

Speaker 7 (32:26):
What happened in twenty by the way Epstein's I.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Mean, that was absolutely dreadful.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Only because deep down at their core, they you know,
they don't care about the kids. If they cared about
the kids, they would have been calling on Biden to
do something. They would have been calling on Obama to
do something. They just care about making political hay MSNBC
broadcast exclusively to a vast majority of the audience is
self hating white people who just get out of bed

(32:54):
every day wake up to the reality that they're paying
thirty five thousand dollars a month or a two bedroom
apartment on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, and they
can't walk to kid the school in the morning without
seeing some pantless hobbit going to the bathroom on the sidewalk.
And they need the reinforcement to tell them they're making
the right decisions in life, so they turn on MSNBC,
and MSNBC goes, well, at least you're not a racist

(33:16):
idiot like those Trump supporters. At least you're not a
conspiracy lunatic like those right wingers who said Hunter Biden
had a laptop and the vaccine didn't block transmission and
Russia didn't collude with Donald Trump. You understand, every conspiracy
on the right in the last five years has turned
out to be true. We were told Hunter Biden's laptop

(33:36):
is Russian disinformation, but as it turns out, Hunter Biden
and his entire family were pardoned because of what went
on on that very real laptop.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Are you the big man, Joe?

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Every one of his business partners said yes. So the
I don't know of it. All is I do not
love the way Trump handled this. I don't. I don't
know what there is to offer us in the way
of Epstein docs or who knew what about who? Because
in my estimation, the richest people in the world are
a little more discreet than exposing themselves to this degree

(34:11):
of risk. So I just genuinely don't know the answer.
It doesn't sit right with me, and you can't tell
me I'm a conspiracy buff or a lunatic. If every
single conspiracy the last five years has pretty much turned
out to be true and this fits the pattern with
every other one, why are we even talking about this?

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Shut up? It's a conspirat What are your nuts?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
And that's where I find myself at the end of
this conversation, is back where I was at the beginning.
You're not a bad guy for having questions about the
fact that the most powerful people in the world got
on a plane called the Lolita Express and flew down
to a place called Pedophile Island.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Okay, they weren't. It wasn't a boys getaway where they were.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Playing around the golf, you understand, And you're not a
bad guy for seeing through that. Where we go from here,
in the words of Axle Grows, where do we go
now to commercial?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
It's the show that's crashing the establishment Party.

Speaker 7 (35:07):
I don't recall seeing your name on the guest list.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
I think it'd be embarrassed about. There is Fox Across
America with Jimmy Faylo. We got Brian Bremberg coming up
in the next hour.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
To talk about the standoff between Trump and FED chair
Jay Powell.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
This guy will say anything.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Trump wants those interest rates down. The inflation didn't quite lower,
was almost the same, maybe even up a tenth of
a point. Is it way off the high of when
he took office. Yeah, but Powell does not. They do
not want to lower interest rates. It's turning into like
a no Ah, but no, I don't care. It's getting

(35:48):
very petty. Trump didn't have a lot to say today,
but Brenburg will, and we're going to talk about this
actually matters. The Major League All Star Game is back
down in Georgia, four years after they move it because
of what they said was a racist voter id law. Well,
lo and behold, that was a charade. The law hasn't changed,
and the game is back in town. Why because Democrats.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Are so full of crap. This has been a podcast
from wor
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