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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from wor from Everywhere USA. It's
Fox Across America with Jimmy Falow.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Jimmy back in action, Fired Up, Read it a Go.
Third and final hour of Fox Across America with Jimmy Fallis.
We're gonna be hanging out if I can get the
words out of my mouth. I'm so excited about the
possibility this man could be the next governor of the
state of California. I am talking about Steve Hilton, and
he's gonna join us in this hour eight at eight
seven eight, eight nine nine one zero. California gubernatorial race
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seems a ways off right now, because we are, of course,
just eight days away from the New York City mayor's
race where Zoran mom Donnie's still in the lead.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
That can't be good.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And we've got a neck and neck dog fight down
in Jersey between Jack Chiarelli and Mikey Cheryl, and of
course down in Virginia where Obama was out campaigning for
Abigail's Spanberger. The white lady means nothing to me, but
I only pointed out because Barack Obama famously was chiding
black men a year ago, telling they had to vote
for the black lady in Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Kamala is awful. What's her weird laugh haha.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
A lot of people feel that way. But regardless of
whether or not you're one of them, you are welcome
on the show.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We do a lot of goofy things here, but above
all else we're just a good old fashioned talk show
and you are all welcome. Eighty eight seven eight eight
nine nine one zero. And it's the same rule every day.
Be a Republican, be a Democrat, just don't be a bang.
As we get into way and I number three, so
much going on in our politics, nothing going on in
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our government. The government still shut down. There's nothing going
on right now other than the fact that they're racking
up interest that you'll eventually have to pay for all
of this nonsense.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Thanks the government witnesses.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So for that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
A little bit of frustration if you're a person like
myself who cares about the people directly affected by this.
But the president is out making peace deals on the
other side of the world. We're being told there could
be a TikTok deal announced this week. He has broken
what he says is eighth or ninth peace deal, and
the latest attempt to gin up controversy in the face
of all of these deliverables. You know, last week it
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was the White House ballroom. Wow, we've got a ballroom.
You can't be built at a ballroom.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
What's with the knocking down the East Wing? And to
be clear, the East Wing is one hundred and twenty
three years old, which is the same age as all
of the No King's protesters. But the point is the
Democrats are jetting up a fake controversy when they run
in that direction because donors are paying for it. And yes,
the presidents are going to use ballrooms. Nobody cares. They
can tell you they care. But let's be clear, Barack
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Obama did not do the two hundred million dollar renovation
Donald Trump is engaging in right now.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Barack Obama did a.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Three hundred and seventy six million dollar renovation. And were
any of the Democrats howling about it at the time,
answer would be no, you know, the construction nance be nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, the knockdown wall, the rubble dance or.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Metis would be known. They didn't care. He was renovating
the White House, and you do that from time to time,
as we know. So many presidents before Trump got there
have done the very same thing. So it's all performative outrage,
no differently than President Trump.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
So it's funny.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Last week, Steve Bannon was doing his show I believe
it's on over it's serious. I don't have the answer
to that, but Steve Bannon was talking about how Trump
could technically speaking, run for a third term as vice president.
He wouldn't be eligible to run as president, but he
could run as somebody else's vice president and then ultimately
get into office that way. Now, Trump was directly asked
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about that and said, no, okay, I wouldn't do that.
It's too cute. I don't think people would like it.
But the article I read this morning was Trump doesn't
rule out running for a third term.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
The media is a bunch of losers.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
That's gonna be one of the biggest, Like last day
fearmongerings of the Trump era is that he's going to
run again and he's not going to leave office. Guys,
I'm just telling you because I care. Local appellate court
judges have blocked every word out of Trump's mouth.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'm going to deport people.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Oh no, no deportations yet, Judge just granted an injunction
you can't deport it, and then they have to go
to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court goes, okay,
of course he can support people, at which point he
starts deporting people. Okay, well, I'm going to cut government
spend and no, no, you're not. Local appellate court judge
somewhere up in Maine just said you can't do that.
So they asked to go to the Supreme Court and
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they go, oh, of course you can. You can do that,
you can, you know, you cut the spending, and that's
what they do. They've had to do this with foreign aid.
They've had to do this with funding endowments to anti
Semitic colleges like Harvard and Columbia.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Some of those battles.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Every single thing Trump has tried to do and appellate
court judge has blocked. The only way he's maintained his
ability to keep doing them is by appealing to the
Supreme Court. Now, one thing you need to understand about
the Supreme Court and the people who oppose Trump is
that if he were to announced he was running for
a third term, it would immediately get challenged in court.
The Supreme Court would then have to rule based on
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what's in the Constitution, and Trump would have zero chance
of running a third time. He is judicially blocked from
running as a president. The reason Steve Bannon, to his credit,
had the foresight to find the whole he could run
as a VP and work it as an end around
is technically that is true, and he's trying to shake
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the pot up, and you kick the old hornet's nest
and get the media ginned up and paying attention to
these clips. But understand, he has to go that route
because there is no chance for Trump to run for
a third term for president. That is a fact. Local
courts will block it. The Constitution blocks it, which means
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the Supreme Court blocks it. But you're never going to
let the facts get in the way of a good
manufactured hysteria. Like you understand what the Democrats are talking
about right now. It's all pretends toff. A president can't
knock down a ballroom, of course he can. Okay, no
king's protest. We don't have a king. Shut up. He's
going to run for a third term. But you know
what they're not protesting, like the things people voted for
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that are happening. Gas hovering around three bucks a gallon.
Now it's hit its lowest point since it was when
he got into office last once. Since he left office
last time, inflation cool to the point that they're expected
to cut interest rates. The stock market breaking forty seven
thousand for the first time ever. Do you remember when
this tariff thing started Liberation Day all the way back
in April, and they said he would destroy the economy
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and the stock market would never recover. Wrong, Okay, the
stock market from that day to today is up about
five thousand points. The people who get on TV and
scare you for a living, okay, they have been wrong
about everything. And one of the reasons they've been wrong
about everything is there's no accountability when it happens. They
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don't get fired, they don't get suspended, they don't get fined.
They just go on TV the next day, make up
a new hysteria and pretend the first one never happened,
or the second one or the third one.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Like do you remember when we thought the world.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Was going to end because the Mayan calendar said, like
a meteorite would hit us on a Tuesday, and that
was that. Well, all of those doomsday preachers at least
had the decency to disappear for six months after the
media didn't strike the earth. They took all your donations
and went to an all inclusive with one of their
mistresses and got drunk at the swim up bar and
shagged one of their side chicks. Well that's what a
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lot of those dirt bags do, those grift and evangelists people.
But understand this, Okay, They at least had the good
sense to disappear. They didn't show up the next day
and be like, actually, I was holding the calendar upside down.
Turns out we're all gonna die tomorrow. That's what the
Democrats do with everything. He's Hitler, Well he hasn't where
when's the Hitler in going to start? Okay, Hitler did
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not run for office, win, run for office, lose, get
indeted ninety one times, get shot, run for office again,
and then start with the hit stuff. Yeah, the point
is they're all full of Okay, it's all a manufactured hysteria.
So the third term thing is the latest manufactured hysteria.
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Forget that your groceries might be a little cheaper, forget
that your gas might be a little cheaper. Forget that
your streets might be a little the cheaper. What you
need to focus on is the ballroom and the parties
he's gonna want to have. Look, he's already building a ballroom. Guys,
he knows he's sticking around. That's what they're doing on
cable news right now. It's so embarrassing. But here's Trump
talking about it. Okay, he has asked about himself running again,
and he pivots to my cabine would be great. Am
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I ruling it out? You'd have to tell me, which
is kind of an ambivalent statement, but he's flat out
I'm going to give you both clips ruling it out here.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
It is clip ten.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Oh. We have great people. I don't have to get
into them, but we have one of them standing right here.
We have JD obviously, the vice president is great. I
think Marco is great. I think I'm not sure if
anybody would run against us. I think if they ever
formed a group would be unstoppa. Do I believe that
I would.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I would.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I would love to do it. I have my best numbers. Ever,
it's very terrible. I have my best numbers. You if
you read it, Am I not ruling it out and
you'll have to tell me. All I can tell you
is that we have a great a great group of
people would stay done.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
So it's kind of dunking on the Democrats. But here's
the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Clip eleven one period on how you you might try
to serve their term?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Is it you the vice president? Yeah, i'd be allowed to.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Do that the US.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Position, you'd be allowed to.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Do that, but I would I would do I think
it's it's too cute. Yeah, I would rule that up
because it's too cute.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I think that people wouldn't like that.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
It's too cute.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's not it would be right.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So that's Trump. I wouldn't do that. It's too cute.
I think the people wouldn't like that. It's too cute.
It would not be right. So that's Trump saying I'm
not gonna be someone's vice presidential candidate as a way
of becoming the president that way, flat out saying that.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The media is like he's gonna run again. We're in
big trouble.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Now. Forget that the country is doing better. Imagine it's
doing worse because we said so. And that's the biggest problem.
The reason I go on the road, do as much
stand up as I do when I can. Is I
like talking to real people because I'm a real person.
It's just what I come from, you know. I spent
the weekend doing for real. Spent my Saturday watching Lincoln
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play football. That was an eleven am game. Then I
went to Activate with my nieces and nephews who were
in town from Ohio, and we crawled around and dodged lasers.
Then I hosted a TV show ten o'clock Saturday night,
and I came home and made breakfast for my family,
watched football and played with a ball. And by the way,
I finally beat Lincoln in a home run derby yesterday.
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Oh my god, forgot about that. The streak is over.
I have I'm not even kidding. I have lost seven
seven game series to my son in a row. Oh
and I beat him yesterday in the driveway. Straight up,
shut your mouth. I should have led the show with this.
What am I even talking about? But the point is,
these are the things I'm doing with my life. That
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I went to Maria's, my cousin, for dinner yesterday, that
we came home and we watched the Steelers get their
ass handed to them by the.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Packers, very normal stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I hung out my family all week, and a normal person,
I like meeting you some a normal person. But part
of being a normal person means, you know what normal
people prioritize. No one is sitting down at the family
dinner table tonight, going, you know about this ballroom, honey,
about the king, Honey, we can't have a king in
this country. And one of the kids is like, hey,
we don't have one, you idiot. Okay, But the point is,
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if you're in a no king's house, I mean, you
probably don't have kids, But even if you do, you
probably have kids that have been forced into your own ideology.
That's how trans five year olds happen. No five year
old is trans unless they were surrounded by a parent
and a teacher going, you.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Might be in the wrong body. You might be in
the wrong body. Are you in the wrong body? Do
you ever think about maybe being in the wrong body.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You don't even get surgery if you think you're in
the wrong body, at which point of kid goes, oh,
maybe I'm in the wrong body.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Any five year old, any three year old who thinks
they're trapped in the wrong body is actually trapped in
the wrong house.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
He's a lousy dead but he's right.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But the biggest problem for Democrats, and that lack of
self awareness for everybody, is they don't realize the hysteria
doesn't play anymore. People don't care, They don't No one's
sitting around thinking a ballroom is authoritarianism. No one is
sitting around listening to Trump say I won't run again
as a VP candidate, going all that means he's gonna
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run again. He's not going to run again. Okay, he
got one. As far as he's concerned, he's three and
zero because of the twenty twenty election. Have you never
seen him count that in a lost column? No, he
was tweeting over the weekend. I won three elections by
a lot, and I've got my best pull numbers ever.
But the polls aren't showing me, you know, fair read
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on where people stay at Like, he's very delicate about
that stuff. He's not running again, But you gotta do
something besides manufactured hysteria. I'm making this point a lot
on the show lately. If your outreach to voters is
that you'll stop a pretend thing from happening, it is undoubted,
unquestionable there will be people that will vote for any
vote you anyway because they have the luxury of being like, yeah,
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I want to stop the pretend thing because what the
government does doesn't affect them. But it's only a matter
of time if you get elected on nothing that you
do encounter that where's the beef moment in your party?
I have been playing you this clip of Charles Barkley
for a year and a half now where Charles Barkley,
the NBA legend goes, well, the reason Democrats are losing
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support is they only care about black people every four years.
Black people know that now they don't sit around going yeah,
I just absolutely cannot vote Republican because these Democrats they
show up every four years, they say they like me,
They say everybody else is racist, but they're going to
protect me. To remember Joe Biden saying that Mitt Romney
was going to put black people back in chains like insanity.
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But he said that when he was campaigning with Obama.
I mean not as I guess as bad or as demeaning,
is what he said when he was campaigning for himself.
If you have a problem figuring out whether you're pre
me or Trump, and you ain't Black, remember that doozy.
But the point is there's so many pretend things the
Democrats are trying to vanquish right now. Okay, Trump's gonna
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charent so he's gonna run again. He's not, though, So
you can't really ask people to mobilize behind stomping things
that isn't that are already happening. Same time with the
Kings thing, that's the scam of right now. So I
watch this, it gives it makes it very easy to
do my job as an entertainer, as a talk show host,
as a TV host. But in terms of them doing
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their job in Washington, is that happening?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Not even close the show that leaves you with it's so.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Many phone calls in the last three weeks from people
who operate radio stations around the country.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Some of them operate radio stations.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Locally here in the Tri State area, and they're like,
why does your show sound so different? What are you doing?
Sounds like you're on TV. The pace is weird. You're
bringing on people and doing segments and stuff like what
in the you know, do you remember the old SoundBite.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Wide wide worldless ports isn't going on here?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
No, I've been telling everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Part of the challenge of the news cycle because it's
been so like militant bad. You know, we had the shutdown,
which is still going on, these anti ice protests, people
are getting shot at all these disingenuous rallies and stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
We really do.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Get on the air here and try to take the
edge off. Radio is a very intimate medium, and you
usually you know, they say you're always talking to one
guy in radio. Uh, you know, and that's You've got
to look at it like it's an intimate conversation. Somebody's
listening to you in a pair of headphones. Somebody's listening
to you in the car while they're driving alone. Somebody's
listening to you at work and they're not supposed to be.
I've met so many of you out there doing stand up.
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They keep my headphones into work. Nobody knows that whole thing. Okay,
you're broadcasting the one person. It's so much different than
you know, the way that works on TV. But the
is when I picture myself talking to one person at heart,
I'm always picturing a guy who's at Burger King getting
a whopper, but he's got a lap full of McDonald's fries.
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He's going to two different fast food places at once
to build the most whatever he thinks the most complete
meal is.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You know, it could be a what a Burger.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Guy if you're down in Texas or an in and
out guy if you're on the West Got it doesn't
matter to me.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I don't play favorites. I like it all. You've seen
what I look like.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
But it's always like a very into the conversation, and
I'm trying to make sure that I'm not besieging you
with so much negativity, because we really pride ourselves on
this show of being like a port in the storm,
you know what I'm saying, where you can, you know,
listen to the program day in and day out and
kind of know what's going on in the world, but
not be ready to punch somebody in the face at
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the end of three hours of a conversation. You know
that never hit anyone in anger unless you're absolutely sure
you can get away with it exactly. So we try
at times to really downshift hard and make you make
the news cycle a little more platable. This week, as
I'm looking ahead, you got Halloween, you got the New
York City Marathon. Locally, New York should be okay. Then
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next week they elect a socialist and then everybody just
runs for their lives. It's not good. But at least
we've got a good week this week. So uh, that's
what you need to know. If you've been calling in,
I've got yo. Last week we got so many fricking calls.
The other problem is this show is so accessible because
we come to your markets and we meet you and
we hang out that everybody thinks they're like a de
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facto producer of the show, and you kind of are.
I'm not saying you are it. You guys have a
lot to say. We're like the packers. Everybody owns a
little brick. But you can't keep asking me or I'm
gonna start throwing those bricks back at you. Steve Hilton,
he's gonna be the next governor of California. With any luck,
he will stop I to end this ruckus once and
for all. Halo, And I'm going to tell you something
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about this next guest. He very well may be the
next governor of California, and he will be if the
state knows what's good for them. But he would normally
be joining me in studio, but he can't be here
today because he's starting a gofund me for Gavin Newsom
since Gavin grew up as poor as he did. According
to this weekend's podcast appearance, Steve Hilton is here to
shake the cop.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Hey man, So how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
By the way, I'm definitely going to be the next
govern of California.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Did you see the latest poll came out on Friday?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I'm leading in the polls. Were excited. I high fived
Kennedy in a green room. We saw this side on
the TV. We got excited. But do you fear that
there's some empathy for Newsom now that he's telling people
he grew up poor?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Oh my goodness. It's like, okay, so let's get into
it this way. So the other thing that popped out
this week we get from Kevin Newsom was his his
big announcement that he might be thinking of running for president.
Oh wow, we didn't guess that. It's like the only
thing he's been doing the last twenty years basically anyway.
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So and in the course of that, he's asked this
question about run for president and he says, oh, maybe,
you know, yes, I should be honest about it, you know,
of course I'm considering it because if I didn't, that
would be a lie. And wait, he says, and you
can't do that, you know, like lying almost every single
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thing he says. By you, I mean just big ones
and little ones, you know, when he says, I've never
said Latin next, and then within an hour, there's like
someone's put together like ten clips of him saying Latin next. Anyway,
So that's the context where he says, I'm so poor.
What is it wonder bread or whatever? We like, within
an hour, someone's got, you know, on social media.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
We love it so much.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Have found this profile of him, not even some kind
of profile piece in the San Francisco Chronicle from decades ago,
with a photo of him, the two.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Gettys and someone else and it's literally the children of.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
The rich in San Francisco and he's and he's one
of them. Like that's like within an hour, it's so unbelievable.
And I can't figure out what's actually going on with him.
But is he aware that and he's just cynical and
just lying and thinks he can get away with it.
Is it that he truly believes what he's saying? Is
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it some weird pathological. I just can't decide what it is.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It is a tricky spot.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
We're talking to the great Steve Hilton, the people I
feel bad for, just given the current moment we're living in.
Is anyone going to his Halloween costume a party hoping
to win best Costume? Because this guy will pretend to
be anything. You know, it's a it's a very high
bar this Friday at the News Halloween. I mean, you
couldn't rule out anything. He's been a poor guy, as
you said with the Latin next thing. This is my
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problem and I wanted to comment about this as a
guy who's been pretty successful in life himself.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I don't know why Democrats run.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Away from areas where they've been successful, like he obviously
hasn't been successful as a governor.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
No one could argue that he could.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
But if you are from an Athlin family or you
are yourself affluent, it's actually an attribute. I think Donald
Trump kind of, you know, laid the ground off for this.
They're supposed to embrace and say to people, Hey, wouldn't
you like to do this too?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Someday?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
No one and you just think, you know what, why
do you have to kind of come out with this
endless kind of fake propaganda and this image, I mean
the Halloween costume. I mean someone was just saying I
saw on social media. Again, you know that's the problem
when because the other thing he said in the interview
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about his poverty was, oh, how is you know how
being being anti.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Woke is racist? Like, I don't know. Not that long
ago he was.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
On with had Charlie Kirk on his podcast agreeing how
terrible the wok agenda wasn't it was destroying the thing anyway,
So on pointed out, this is the problem when you
have you know, you're basically lizard. You can't remember what
skin you've got on at any one time.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
So maybe that's the costume.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I don't know. Steve Hilton, let me just give him
a note here.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
The book is called calip Failure, Reversing the Ruin of
America's Worst run State and all of the things he
points to, and I want you to elaborate on this too.
He always talks about the size of the economy. Yeah,
but he has nothing to do with the economy being
as big as it is. If anything, he's shrinking it, no,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
So here's exactly he keeps going on about how we're
the fourth biggest economy in the world.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
That is statistically true.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
But number one, that's nothing to do with him. Number two,
it's actually despite him, because we have, at the same
time as all of that, the worst business climate in America.
Chief Executive magazine. They run a survey every year chief
executives across the country best and worst states to do business.
For the last ten years, California has been fiftieth out
of fifty states for business climate. So my argument is,
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when I get in there as governor and I get
rid of all the insane regulations and.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Taxes, yeah, we'll do it.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
We'll be you know, we'll lift all that burden, will
be the third biggest. But here's the other point that
the deep point about this, which is this economy that
he bragged, which has nothing to do with him, Despite
of him, it doesn't even help regular people. It's a
it's an economy where the rich get richer, regular working
people gets screwed.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
So as well as the.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Fourth biggest economy, we also have today the highest unemployment
rate in America and the highest poverty rate in America.
So this is not an economy that works for people.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
That's why.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
And everything you look at, gas price, is housing costs, mortgage,
you know, rent, whatever it is, electric, water, insurance, everything
is the most expensive in the country, and we pay
the highest taxes. He's a total failure. I keep saying
he's the most I have this little thing I do
on the on the road, I talk about, you know,
President Trump ran as maga nuisance, is going to run
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as mugger, the most useless governor in America.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
That fits on the hat, bits on the hat. It's perfect.
And then I think, actually, that doesn't do justice to it.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I just wonder whether given that he's literally made California
fifty out of fifty on absolutely every I mean, we
haven't even talked to, you know, on the school result
of third grade reading with the worst homelessness whatever, is
he the most useless governor in American history?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Being able to pull this off the worst.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
On everything all at the same time, it's kind of
an amazing achievement.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well, you know what, man, that's the funny thing. Gavin
Newsom may not become president, but he'll be a answer
to a trivia question.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That's the good news. We're talking to Steve Hilton, the book.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
It really is a mush read because it's such a
case study and how big government fails pretty much everybody.
And the problem is that people fronting big government usually
escape the wreckage by nationalizing their own plight. Meaning Newsom
is not out there day in and day out trying
to fix California right now, is just trying to pick
fights with the president, hoping to fail upwards towards the presidency, Like.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Is a guy running for governor?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Do you see an effort being made legitimate and a
legitimate effort out of Newsom to help rebound from these wildfires?
I don't see.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
No. The opposite, right, it's literally the opposite.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
It's on the wildfires. You've got a situation where you're
still you know, it's now, I don't know, it's soon.
It'll be a year, and they still haven't figured out
the basics of how to help people in La with
I talked to people the whole time in Palisades Alteradan
that they're still telling me horror stories. I went to
the building department. I went to try and get my permit.
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They couldn't give me the permit because they said I
don't have the insurance. I go to the insurance. I
can't get insurance because I don't have the permit. I mean,
all this is still going on months afterwards after Newsom
said he's another kind of complete, you know, example of
his ridiculous nonsense. He said in January he said, We're
going to have this is a quote a Marshall plan.
Marshall plan to rebuild the Palisades. He just says these
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things and then nothing happens. And that's the true point
about all these people, him, Karen Bath, Karmala Harris is
the same all these Democrats, is that they're just machine politicians.
They think that's kind of announcing something, doing a press
release or whatever, is the same as doing something in
the real world. That's why Trump is so different. He
just doesn't think like that. It's like, that's bs. That
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doesn't mean anything what you announced, it's what you do,
it's what your results. So that's why I always say
that I'm not a career politician. I've worked most of
my career in business. My first job was project manager
for a construction company.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
That you've got to focus on. You know, if you
don't focus.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
On getting things done, the building doesn't get built. And
everyone can see that and that's the world that is
just alien to these machine politicians.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Well give you this, Steve Hilton, since you invoked your
past as a project matter, as a construction company, isn't
that really why Trump just you know, he had told
people he was going to build a ballroom, but last
Monday they just kind of, you know, decided to do
it to it because if he had given them a
projected start day down the road, they were just going
to sue him and block him in court for the
next year and a half.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Were they not?
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Exactly exactly?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And you just got to get it done, by the way,
on that point, the last thing we moved here twenty
twelve with my wife and my two sons, and the
last roub I had before moving he was senior advisor
to the Prime Minister, to David Cameron, and the last
thing I did in that role was a tend with him.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
A state visit was.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
The official visit from the Prime Minister to the US.
There was a state banquet in the White House. I
was super excited and never been to the White House.
Amazing and I couldn't believe it when we all sort
of traps outside it was raining and walk across the
grass to this plastic tent in the ground that's where
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they have these events, and you have the rain dripping down?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Is that what this is?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
America? Come on, it's so embarrassing. Of course, we need
to get this done and everyone will agree with that
once it's built.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, and they'll all use it. We're talking to Steve Hilton,
the next governor of California. I mean, you should not
be coming to America for a big state event and
hearing things like be careful with your high heels in
the grass. Exactly, nobody's heels should be sinking in mud.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
But you know why, it's delicate.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
The East the east wing of the White House is
one hundred and twenty three years old, and that is
the same age as every No King's protester in the
Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
So they're sentimental.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I thought you were going with Biden there, you know,
I thought that was the direction.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
No, No, we've got age just jokes for everybody on
the show that anyone could be the victim. That's the point.
You got to modernize the material. Steve, the show's on
every Saturday night. You can't do last Saturday exactly.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Very very good. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Well, that's why you're winning in the rating. Great rating,
thanks buddy, exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Well, this is the last question and then I'll let
you get back to it. You have this one issue.
It's like you're running, You're winning in the polls. Everybody
loves you, but we've never seen you demonstrate the warmth
of say a Katie Porter.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Are you gonna what?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Are you going to open up and show the softer
side that Katie's him.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I need to work on my people skills, It's very true.
I need to definitely show some show some of that
same kind of empathy for my team. We need to
find ways of doing that. It is my favorite thing
to do now. Basically, I'm on the road. I'm doing
these events, you know, two three a day or whatever,
and I turn round on stage and I love you know,
I'm a very polite person.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
So I don't do the full Katie Porter.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
But I have the crowd behind me and I just
yell into the microphone, get out of my effing shot.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
It's a classic.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
It'll be with us for a long time, that one.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, it will.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I just hope you don't wind up getting tackled in
a gubernatorial debate a year from now. Be careful out there, okay, exactly,
you're the man, the great Steve Hilp will do it
again sooner, brothers.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Thank you, fantastic good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
There he goes the great Steve Hilton, man who is
leading in the polls to be the next governor of California.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Imagine that Katie Porter didn't.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Do herself any favors with that whole I mean, that
will be viral forever to get the f out of
my shot. And they're doing everything they can the round
up staff videos and make them go away so they
don't wind up all over the TV again. But there's
nobody running against Hilton right now. That isn't just another
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round of newsom. That's the problem big government. Here's what
you need to know about this. The argument against big
government is we always talk about it at twenty thousand feet. Well,
big government's gonna cost a lot of money. It's going
to cost more taxes, okay, and those are valid reasons
not to want big government. What's funny is everybody who
tells you Trump's an authoritarian is a Democrat who actually
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supports a bigger, more powerful government. Trump is doing the
opposite of that, doze was meant to rein in the
size and scale of the government. So again that was
a classic exercise and projection. But getting past the fact
that it will cost you more on the tax side,
and oftentimes the government is there to spend money because
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it's not theirs, it's yours, And the government is there
to spend money in the direction the lobbyists prefer, because
that big government needs to get reelected, and the way
they get reelected is by raising money fundraising. So a
lot of times these guys come off like NASCAR drivers.
You know the old joke where everybody always tweets you know,
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we should make these politicians. Where are the patches like Nascar?
So we know who owns these people. And you've been
hearing that joke for thirty years, forty to fifty year,
and it's true, it's a real joke. I mean, they
are wholly owned subsidiaries in a lot of cases by
outside interests. But getting past all of that, all of
that is every time you increase the size of the government,
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there are more people standing between you and what you
need to happen.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Okay, so take California.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
They lose three thousand homes four thousand homes depending on
the estimate. It okay, these homes need to get rebuilt.
But in a big government, heavy regulation state like California,
that means you now have to go through ten different
permitting processes and all you need is one person in
one process that doesn't do their job, doesn't want to
do their job, and gets off by power tripping and
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telling you no because they can. How many times have
you gotten into a business, whether it's the Department of
Motor Vehicles, whether it's somebody at a post office where
it's someone in a position behind a counter to tell you, Nope,
not doing that today. Sorry, you didn't check this box.
All right, we'll have a pen. I'll check it right now.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Sorry, that's not how it works. Nick, What do you
mean you said I checked it? I checked the box.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
You gotta have all your paperwork.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Hey, folks, if you're gonna come up here, you gotta
fill out your paperwork ahead of time. We're not here
and you're like what I was in. I was here
for three hours. I want to kill somebody. That's the
argument against big government. That's the biggest argument you need
to know is every time you put another person between
you and what you want done, you increase the odds
of you running into the person that was never going
to help anybody to begin with, and that actually cost
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you more money because in the big government, you've got
to pay the big extra salaries. You've got to pay
for the big people who aren't going to help you
to begin with. That's why it was a former California
government who's saw a governor who summed it up best.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is
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Speaker 2 (33:30):
This one flew. I am off the radio here in
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Speaker 1 (34:09):
We're going to be back out in Reno. I believe
in March or May. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Williams got a lot going on over there. But you
can always get tickets to see me live. You can
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at foxacross America dot com. Okay, that's what's going on.
Bill Hammer's on the show tomorrow. He's one half of
America's Newsroom. He is a guy I kind of bond
with a lot over sports on the air because that's
a way for us to bridge the intellectual gap.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
He's obviously a lot smarter than I am.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And we want to get back into this big NBA
gambling scandal a little bit tomorrow because we had a
revelation today. I was on America's Newsroom this morning, and
I had a revelation of what the future holds for
all of us based on what we already know. This
isn't like a prediction like I think this is going
to happen next No, Okay. I grew up around gambling,
(34:56):
big gambling, cash, gambling, bookies, casinos. If you saw me
on Larry Cudlow last week, this is the joke of
the day, maybe the joke of the week. Larry Cudlow,
the day this NBA story broke, asked me to come
on to his show last Thursday. So I came on
and talked to him about gambling in the underworld and
proposition bets and marketing and everything like that. Well, Friday,
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Cudlow drags me into his office and he goes, hey,
I just want to thank you for coming on the show.
And as you know, Larry has struggled with several addictions.
He went to I Believe drug treatment and alcohol treatment.
He goes, I've been to addicted to a couple of
different things, but I've never heard an addict talk about
advice the way you did with Gambler. And I go, well,
I've actually not going to Gamble's Anonymous and he goes, oh, well,
(35:38):
maybe you should.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
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