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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from wor from Everywhere USA. It's
Fox Across America with Jimmy Falo.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh hot, damn, Here we go, Here we go back
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They're deporting people who can't. Fox across America fired up
to bring you an absolute embarrassment of radio riches in
this hour. Paul Morrow, retired in YPD inspector, Fox News contributor.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
He's going to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Curtis Sliwa, the man who could stop zoron Mom Donnie
from implementing socialism in City Hall here in New York City,
also going to join us as well. And that is
a story that has implications for you across the country,
because if the Democrats can elect a socialism in New
York City, you damn well better believe they're going to
be doing it all around the country.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
That is correct.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So yes, we're going to focus on it eight at
eight seven eight, eight, nine, nine one zero if you
want a piece of the conversation, a conversation that's going
to delve quite heavily into the Epstein list and the
lack thereof in this hour, because there's no one more
up to speed on the goings on inside the DOJ
than Paul Morrow, And as luck would have it, I
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a man who prides himself on knowing very little. I
am a community college graduate who spent most of my
adult life driving in New York City taxi. But I
know human instinct really well, and I happen to know
why there's a civil war going on inside the DOJ. So,
assuming there's not a red dot on my forehead by
the end of this segment, I'm gonna tell you what
I know in this hour eight of eight seven, eight,
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nine to nine to one zero. If you'd like to
provide me with some secret service. It's also the number
of you just don't like me and you want to
see me go out in a blaze of glory. We
know we have plenty of those people out there. Jimmy,
you're a pathological Why shout out to my mom for
calling in that time. But you know the rules. As
we get underway, it's an American talk show. I am
not an activist. I am an inactivist. You are all welcome,
(01:53):
e pluribus unham out of many one.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I don't care where you come from. I don't care
what car are you. I don't care as much, y'all.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I've done y'all, no, ma'am. As it pertains to the
Epstein thing. We covered this on Fox New Saturday Night
this weekend, and it was a really funny moment. Because
I will tell you this. Lara Trump, who was the
first guest we've ever had on Fox across America, we
became good buddies when she was, you know, making appearances
here on the channel, and I was writing for TV
and getting on from time to time. If I could
sneak past security and walk on to a live shot.
(02:24):
Me and Lara Trump are homies. I love talking to
her on the air, off the air, anything in between.
She's just happens to be a really, really cool gal.
The fact that she's currently the lead in on Fox
New Saturday Night. I know there's rumors that she could
run for Senate in North Carolina. I don't know that
she's gonna, but I will promise you, because I care,
I will support her in any you know way she
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you know, sees fit. Okay, she's phenomenal. She comes on
the show and talks about wrapping and drinking natty lights.
There's a candor to her, that doesn't exist too many
places in politics.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Her father in law has it. Donald Trump. I think
everybody would agree with that.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And this past Saturday night, Lara is interviewing the President
of the United States before I come on the air
in another sport code from my overweight figure skater collection
and bust out my son for a bunch of dirty jokes.
We've got to follow the president of the United States
of America.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
This could be a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But it was so funny to me because you're sitting
there telling jokes about everything that went on in the news.
Some of them are pro Trump, some of them are
anta not necessarily anti, but they make fun of, you know,
the way he does things, because that's what comedy is.
Nobody's supposed to be safe. Comedy doesn't have a political party.
Comedy is a party, okay. But as it pertains to
where we find ourselves now, which is sitting here on
the radio on Monday, talking about what went on over
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the weekend, the President issued a very I guess i'd
call it.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's like a red meat tweet about the Epstein list,
saying we've just got to get over it and move on.
This is a client list that was protected by Joe Biden.
You know other people that you know started the Russia thing.
You know the people who lied about everything we did.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
And I'm just telling you. I read it and I go, oh, yeah, no,
that's what's going on. The guy got a tweet out
there telling his whole base we need to move on
from Epstein.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's no big deal. Why does anybody care?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
But the reason people care, Number one is they talked
about this story every day for five years. Number Two,
there's kids involved, and a lot of people are not
willing to move on if they've been led to believe
there's some like elite pedophile ring that's been shagging underage
chicks on Epstein Island, which we do know is the
case now. Trump unfortunately got ratioed in social media. Getting
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ratioed means more people reply to your.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Post than like it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Like if you post something and one hundred people click like,
but five thousand people reply, that means no one liked
what you said. Maybe one hundred people did, but the
other five thousand people are like, screw you. And that's
what happened in the Trump It's never happened to him
once in his career on truth social because he owns
the platform. Here's the Trump tweet really quick. What's going
on with my boys and in some cases gals. They're
all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who was doing
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a fantast bastic job. We're on one team MAGA, and
I don't like what's happening. We have a perfect administration,
the talk of the world, and selfish people are trying
to hurt it all over a guy who never dies,
Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it's Epstein over and over again.
Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama,
Crooked Hillary Comy Brennan and the losers and criminals of
the Biden administration who conned the world with the Russia
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Russia Russia hoapes, fifty one intelligence agents, the laptop from
Helen Moore. They created the Epstein files just like they
created the fake Hillary Clinton Christopher Steele dossier that they
used on me. And now my so called friends are
playing right into their hands. Why didn't these radical left
lunatics release the Epstein files? If there was anything in
there that could have hurt the MAGA movement, why didn't
they use it? They haven't even given up on the
John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King Junior files. No
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matter how much success we've had securing the border, deporting criminals,
fixing the economy, energy dominance, a safer world where a
ram will not have nuclear weapons, it's never enough for
some people.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
We're about to achieve.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
More in six months than any other administration has achieved
in over one hundred years, and we have so much
more to do. We are saving our country and making
America great again, which will continue to be our top priority.
The left is imploding, cash Betell in the FBI must
be focused on investigating voter fraud, political corruption at blue,
the rigged and stolen election of twenty twenty, and arresting
thugs and criminals, instead of spending month after month looking
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at nothing but the same old radical left inspired documents
on Jeffrey Epstein. Let Pam Bondi do her job. She's great.
The twenty twenty election was rigged and stolen, and they
tried to do the same in twenty twenty four. That's
what she's looking into his ag and much more. One
year ago, our country was dead. Now it's the hottest
country anywhere in the world. Let's keep it that way
and not waste time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody
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that nobody cares about. Thank you for your attention to
this matter, except all of Trump's followers said, in my opinion,
that suck.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I don't doubt there's a lot of Trump supporters are like, yeah,
we're supposed to move on. And I respect your opinion,
of course I do. But the reason it's not sitting
right with a lot of people, including members of Trump's
don't doj as they were told for five years this
list existed. They were told as recently as February that
the list was on Pam Bondi's desk. Now they're being
told that there's no list at all, and who cares?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
What why worldless ports isn't going on here?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
The reason Bongino's pissed, The reason I don't know if
Cash Betel is his man is Bongino. But Bongino made
his name by being a guy, very passionate and painfully
honest with his audience. He didn't always say popular things,
but he said things he meant, He said things he believed.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I worked with the guy here.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
He's a very passionate dude, and it was explained to me, Okay,
this could be wrong. I'm not telling you. I'm not
a journalist. I'm a talk show host. I'm just giving
you my opinions. Okay, I host a comedy show on
Saturday night. These are jokes marinated in some of my opinions.
Sometimes the joke isn't my opinion, it's just this would
be a funny commentary on an issue, and that's where
your loyalty has to lie as a comedian. So I'm
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talking to you right now as a comedian and an
opinion host, not as a guy who has this on fact.
But the Bongino situation reads like he thought Epstein was
killed by the deep state. He went along and came
on TV and said no, no, oh, Epstein definitely killed himself.
And he told that lie or at least compromised his
own beliefs at the behest of people who told him, Hey,
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you can't win that battle. However, don't worry about it,
because we are going to come back in a few
months with the list, at which point we'll be exposing
the scumbags at the very least, and you'll look exonerated. Well,
Lo and behold, he went on TV and said, yeah, no,
I trust me. He killed himself. I didn't believe it either,
but he killed himself, and he did that thinking a
few months later he'd at least be able to release
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the list and wash that taste out of his mouth.
But lo and behold, they told him there's no more list.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
That's just how white folks will do you.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Nobody in their right mind believes they don't know. Bill
Gates's wife is on TV saying she divorced him because
he wouldn't stop going to Epstein Island, and everybody who
keeps giving me the old, well, if Trump's on the list,
then the Democrats definitely would have hit him with it
by now that the answer would be no, answer would
be no, no, they wouldn't have because what if, oh
my goodness, gracious, what if.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
They're on it too?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Ah? Wow, like Trump's truth social post doesn't ring true
to me. You know, the Clintons wrote the Epstein lists.
You know that file. Those radical people who wrote Russian
Collusion wrote the Epstein list. The Clintons wrote the Russian
collusion story. Okay, these files were not written by Obama
and Crooked Hillary. Believe me she as much as she
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hates Bill, she did not put him on the Epstein list.
I mean, I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.
So none of it rings true to anybody. And yes,
you can make an argument that maybe securing the border
protects kids in the long run, and we just have to,
you know, so much for these kids. I was gonna say,
screw these kids, but sadly that's already been done. I mean, sick,
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it's gross. I'm not happy, But understand this, this move on,
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Why are we still doing this? Because we know none
of it rings true? None of it.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And I get Trump likes to cajole people, but a
lot of people don't feel like Donald Trump is making
his call. They feel like he's either a making it
based on false intelligence, or heaven forbid, he's making it
at the behest of some invisible power within our government
or multiple governments. That's why the story won't go away.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Listen, I don't believe Epstein killed himself. And one of
the reasons I feel that way more than ever is
because the video Pam Bondi divulged didn't even show us
the inside of his cell before during or after the hanging.
It's like, here's a video of him walking through the
pantry with a prison guard. Are we good here? No? No,
As a matter of fact, we're not good here. And
(10:35):
when you're telling me, we don't have the video of
him hanging himself because the way the prison system is
calibrated every night at eleven fifty nine am. Okay, when
the handoff comes from PM to A every night at
eleven fifty nine, right before midnight strikes, the system is
calibrated to delete that minute of footage.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It stops filming so.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It can reset for the next twenty three hours and
fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Well, wouldn't you know it, In.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
That one minute, the guy happened to kill himself.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Soll crazy someplace else. We're all sucked up here, zero chance.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And if that's the case, give us the video the
minute before when he's setting up the suicide. Maybe give
us the video a minute later where he's clearly dead
of a suicide. Okay, but we don't get that video.
And after five years of telling us, hey, the guy
definitely didn't kill himself, Dan Bongino is now out there
saying he did, and now being forced to part a
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company line that they don't know who he hung out
with or what they were up to, or how he
made his money, or whether or not he was embedded
with other intelligence agencies. I don't have these answers. I
do not have them. I'm being very responsible as a
broadcaster right now. I'm just giving you my opinion. The
situation reads like they all went on TV, sucked it up,
held their nose, and were like, yeah, yeah, he killed himself.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I know, I'm shocked too.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I know.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I said for five years he didn't, but it turns
out he did, and they might have known that.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Was a lie.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But you run the play put into the huddle. You're
here to serve your government. You're not here to go rogue.
But they ran it under the auspices that they get
to tell the truth about other things like who was
involved and how we could nail their balls to the wall,
because if people were knowingly getting on a plane called
the Lolita Express and flying down to Pedophile Island, promised
they weren't going there for benevolent intentions. Okay, but you
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understand when they came down with the edict that, oh,
by the way, you don't get to tell anybody anything.
Now they all look like a bunch of circus clowns.
I'm not saying they are, I'm saying it's how they looked. Okay,
Pam BONDI remember this. We talked about it on Fox
New Saturday Night. Gave out binders that said Epstein Files
phase one. You don't title something phase one if you
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don't have other phases coming up. I mean, you're right,
and when you're right, you're right, and you you're always right. Guys,
if you saw a trailer for Star Wars episode one,
you'd assume there's gonna be an episode two, maybe a three.
I mean, in Star Wars, it's gonna go on infinitum. Okay,
I believe the latest Star Wars is called Star Wars
Episode ten. Screw you give me the money, Like they
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don't either, just horn it out. But the point is,
Pam BONDI got out there in February probably thinking, oh, yay,
I can out all these dirt bags. We can find
out these losers that were trafficking children. This is great,
Come get your binder. I think in February she believed
she'd be able to tell the story. I think in February,
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you know the Bonginos, the cash Betel's, the Trump's believed
they could tell this story and whether they were fed
bogus information or somebody you and I don't know whispered
to them. By the way, you don't tell the story.
And for further follow up, feel free to watch the
Zuppruder film. Like, I don't have an answer, I'm just
giving you an opinion, okay, straight opinion. I have no idea. Okay,
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but this isn't what I do for a living on
the radio. I'm not a shock jock. I'm not a sensationalist.
I just know we're reading credible report after credible report
that Bongino lost his mind and wants Trump to choose
between him and Bondi Okay, And if he lost its mind,
it's because he feels like his integrity was compromised. And
I don't doubt there's a billion people on Twitter right
now that feel that way about him, because they're saying
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this thing.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Think about Trump.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Trump's truth social post at the time I read it, okay,
had like forty thousand likes and like fifty thousand replies,
meaning more people said you suck than I agree, mister president.
Let's move on And these are not radical liberals, these
are not CNN reporters. These are died in the will
Trump people who thought he was the one guy that
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could shine a light on all this disgusting pedophilia that
the elites were engaged in. He couldn't. He wasn't allowed to,
which tells me it's not going to happen anytime soon,
because if it does, that invisible hand of God is
coming after everybody else.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So y'all need to had your kids, had a wife,
and hedgehood because they raping anybody out here. That's a
show that's standing up to get those words.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Oh girl Across America with Jimmy Fla Paul Mora joining
us in the next segment to talk about the Epstein Files,
the ongoing war against Ice out in Los Angeles, and yes,
a man by the name of doctor Anthony Fauci.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Fauci's just pulling stuff out of his butt.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Well, the word on the street is they might pull
that pardon for Fauci out of somebody's butt. After this
scandal broke in the New York Times today that they
were using auto pen for all of those late stage
pardons and Biden wasn't even aware it was going on. Guys,
if that's the truth, that.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Is balder dash and hogwash and m is it ever?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And I'll let Paul give it to you in more
elegant terms than Dagan McDowell just did. But a shout
out to her because we love her, and a shout
out to you. Okay, we're gonna ask Paul about the
legality of the ice thing, and we're gonna get into
the Epstein stuff just the same. One guy whose take
I wanted really quickly was Mike's. He's been on the
line out. He's in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yo, Mike, Yo, how we doing today? I hope you're
not too hot.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
No, they got the ac on in here because they
have to put the acon for me in December because
I'm too chubby.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, I'm in the same boat, bro. I just want
to get off my chest. If you think we had
HAKEM and AOC and we could get them all in
one room and make them ask answer questions like if
your child died the fetanoyl, would you change your mind
about the border and how the border has been treated.
There's none of them that will talk about our talking
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points on the other side or even in the middle,
that people are coming over here committing crimes per capita
in the Latino portion, they are more likely to commit
a crime than a lot of other races, and that
those are facts. Those are things I don't understand other
than them wanting to vote, why they wanted to leave
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the border open. We are making America great again, meaning
US voting for Trump, him holding his promises, none of
his stuff that he's doing. And then why won't they
talk about giving money to illegal aliens and not taking
care of the people in California, the mountains in North
Carolina where I am close to. I don't understand it.
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And am I right or wrong? That it has to
almost bail down to them staying in office and wanting
to vote. Why else would.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
They leave the border open?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Well, and if you'll leave me on to hear what
you got to say, have a great date, all right?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Amen? Guessed up by Mike.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I mean a point I make a lot on this
show is there is a political motivation to keep the
border open. If you count illegal immigrants in the census,
you get more dollars from Congress for your state and
your locale. And in some instances it results in redistricting,
which means they get additional congressional seats, and most analysis
concludes that the last census gifted the Democrats of additional
seventeen seats in Congress, so there'd be a motivation there,
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But there's all kinds of different financial motivations as well.
But the one takeaway is just people who live here
and pay taxes don't feel like the top priority of
the Democratic Party, and they shouldn't because they're not in
the top twenty five. I mean, forget the metal podium.
You guys aren't even in that honorable mention montage. They
play at the end of the year a tournament. Paul Morrow,
though he's a trophy winner, he joins us next, Oh girl,
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It is Fox Across America with Jimmy Fala. A lot
of experts consider this next guest to be the pre
eminent legal mind here at Fox News, which is why
I'm shorting the stock.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I Kenny is the founder.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Of Pop's Desk dot Org, a Fox News contributor. Paul
Morrow in the house, the crowd goes wise, I'm not
even introduced yet, and speaking of legal expertise, that was
sporderline defamatory, but I'll give you this all right, So
I'll take a settlement.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Now if you got to run, Let's say, was I
not wrong for beating you to the punch?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Have I ever introduced you and not immediately been gunned
down In a hail.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Of rhetorical bullets. Iver declined to answer, on the ground
that you might incriminate yourself.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Exactly morow here I was on the out numbered couch today.
I was a good, juicy Monday in the news. God
help us, it's sure, is man? The old adagant horse racing.
I say this a lot in radios. They used to say,
you know, if you want to and horse racing, you
got to be a mutter. You got to be able
to run in a slapper track. That is so applicable
to media. Now, what was the last day you got
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on a television set with a clean track?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
That never I know. I said, well, it's just slow.
Was the list of you heard that? Well, it's a
slow news day. You want to do some human interest? Yeah,
it doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I think it's just it comes down to the fact
that we are all an extension of Donald Trump's central
nervous system. Yes, realistically, he's the assignment desk. Yeah, he
gets out a desk and writes the story.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Man, Well he's been writing a story over the weekend
called stop talking about Epstein. But no one's following the
lead of the assignment desk right now.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Uh So, let me give you this is just my
crack pot analysis. This does not come on any authority. No,
we do that part ahead. I wanted to compliment you
at the end of this interview because you guest hosted
last week and the person I consider to be like
the ultimate thought leader in radio was like, by the way,
Morol did a.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Great job on your show.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I heard that the ratings were like triple Yeah. We
actually were written a black You know, I'm gonna let you.
I'm just gonna let you have that one. I like
you enough to respawn factory. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But here we go.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So the Epstein thing, and I've heard about this, you know,
meltdown that might have taken place between Bongino and Bondie
and everybody along the way. I think Bongino and Patel
obviously wrote into these positions under the auspices that Epstein
did not kill himself. And they might have seen contradictory
evidence once they got into office.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I think we could agree there.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I don't know if it was good intel or bad,
and I don't have an answer to that, but I
think they went on TV, specifically on our air, and said, oh, no,
you know, I'm perversing my position. I've seen the evidence
the guy killed himself. As crazy as that might sound
contrasted against previous statements, but I believe they might have
given that sort of public testimony under the auspices that
they thought they'd at least be able to pursue other
(20:47):
avenues of this case. And it sounds like they're not
handling that shutdown. Well, can you true to that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, I think that's an accurate reader. So let's dispell
a couple of myths. First of all, Epstein did kill himself. Okay,
say he did. I mean the idea that, and I'm
gonna do something I don't know if and do. I'm
gonna plug the OPS desk myself. You should because I
wrote about this yesterday and a short piece of just
essentially saying, look, if you think that entire Civil Service
shift of Federal Corrections officers, their bosses, the NYPD detectives
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who likely showed up for because it's a potential homicide.
They're going to show up in the jurisdiction of New
York City, their bosses, the warden, the Doha, and the
inspector general, people who then investigated this fellow inmates, on
and on and on. If you think that someplace out
there there's a guy who killed Epstein and all of
these people were in on it, planning on it, and
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then planning it and then covering it up, then I'm sorry,
you know you're gonna believe anything. It didn't go that way,
especially when you consider that if somebody here were willing
to actually step up and say, okay, I'm going to
tell you a true story. They're an instant star and
an instant's millionaire. So he killed himself, Okay, give me that.
Is it possible? Don't an answer to this?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Is it possible that all of those people wouldn't have
to be in on a cover up if like one
guy did it and somebody from a far new.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
At the very least the Corrections Shift would have to
be in on it. They would because you have to
have you would have to have moved the killer, whoever
you always here, it's that wise guy that was stereoid
steroid it up. You would have had to have moved
him into the cell at the right time on camera.
All the cameras weren't working. That's part of the conspiracy
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as well. And then everybody has to come in.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Look, you've got doctor Boden saying, well, you know, it
looks more consistent with a homicide than but that's I'm sorry,
you know, is.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
There money for him and saying that.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I mean, look, you know, it's just it's always hyoid bone,
hyoid bone, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
But look, he killed himself. Okay, pull more, el says
Epstein definitely did.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Now that doesn't mean that there wasn't isn't skulduggery here,
want to be clear. Furthermore, as far as a list goes,
there is no list per se. You know, he didn't
write out these are the people on black at all
and tape it to his refrigerators.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Just a history of him interacting with certain people.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
And that's out already because it's been released from the
civil trial and the criminal trials as well. Len Maxwell's
criminal trial. The manifests from the plane. We all know
the names. You've heard them.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Bill Gates's wife said she left him because of it.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Precisely, so we all know the Hollywood names and other
names that are implicated. The list is out as much
as there's a list. The thing that's not clear. That
is what we I think, if people take a step
back and think about it, what we want is what
was recovered from the houses relative to the search warrants
that were conducted in the videotapes, because we all know
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his houses were wired up. His ample testimony to the
fact that there was a room that had the camera,
all of the screens, all of the houses were wired
for with hidden video. And if Pam Bondi says it's
all child porn that we're not going to release, the
question becomes who else is.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
There would be a digital footprint? That's the question. And
did he kill himself? Did he not kill himself?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Where's the list? What would a binder's supposed to These
were all red herrings. What I just said is the question.
Now to resolve that question a bit, what you could
get is the search warrant returns when you do a
search bar and as a cop, federal officer, anything, you
have to go back to the judge that gave you
a search warrant and say this is what we found,
and you file it with the court.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's a list.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
So the search barrant returns would tell us what they found.
And even if it's as vague as because sometimes they're vague,
it may say one hundred and thirty two videotapes of
various lengths something like that, at least then we'd know
what stuff exists, what's going on, and we could say
that's what we want what was on those Those are
the questions that I think are more informed, more penetrative,
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and unfortunately in the cacophony, it's all getting lost in
the sauce. We're talking to poll Moral, founder of opsdesk
dot org, two women playing a prominent role in today's conversation.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So Pam Bondi has to start with her. She released
those binders that said Epstein Files Phase one. Okay, if
someone puts a movie out that says Star Wars episode one,
you do expect an episode two? You do in the
case of Star Wars, you expect an episode fifty three.
Whether they're all gay and black. Now, Okay, it's gonna
go on for a while. It's gonna get very woke.
But did she put perhaps publish Phase one under the
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auspices that she'd be allowed to publish Phase two and
then the rules changed.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That could very well.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Be you know, maybe they said, okay, we're going to
do Phase two. We got in there, we dug around
in it, and then it was like, you know, do
we want this out? Is just the kind of thing,
and you know, look, you hear these theories. Oh, Trump's
somebody that Trump knows is implication. I don't buy anything.
But it's well established that Trump in fact barred Epstein
from maroolago, So I don't buy that.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
But that said, this story is like, well, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
There are congressional people implicated, and if this comes out,
they're gonna have to resign and the Republicans will lose
the House.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Like he get these theories?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, and look, this is what happens when you don't
get answers that people expect, you fill the vacuum with
conspiracy theories. The other thing you hear is that she
just got out over her skis a little bit, a
little bit of a publicity stunt. New very caught up
in the idea of the new administration, and she just
kind of over promised, but undeniably, undeniably taking a step
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back and even putting the happiest face on it. It
has been a little bit more than a little bit,
I would say at this point of blown messaging, self
inflicted wound, and at a time I think when the
Trump administration is actually making a lot of headway, they're
good fronts.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's an unfortunate distruction fair and I will agree with
you there.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I mean Trump in terms of the overall, like if
we were judging this like a gymnastics routine, like he
really is having a phenomenal way.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, he's going He's like at an eight point five.
And if you know he got the bill through. The
stuff with Russia today I think is just step forward.
He's got NATO spending money. The TIERFF stuff seems to
be not affecting inflation, which was the big risk. So
I don't understand what the big whoop is like people
on the left or the tireffs are just an undeclared text.
But it hasn't hit the bottom line. It hasn't hit inflation.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
So what's fascinating is even car commercials will say that
these prices are independent of the new tariffs.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I saw a MASTA commercial with that over the weeks.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, so give me one more because I am reading
that just Slaine Maxwell is offering a testify before Congress.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Republicans won't let her. I don't know if that's true
or not. That was in the Daily Mail.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I mean the Daily Mail also has a piece next
to it called seven exercises That'll make your side boob
look bigger on camera, you know what I mean, the
side boob Gazette. With all due respect to them, but
is there you know, have you heard anything about her
wanting to testify? And I don't know if she's just
doing that for the notoriety and possibly a way out of.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Prison, because yeah, I mean, look, if that were true,
why didn't she do it in a criminal trial?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah? You know what I mean. I know he was
dead old, right, but you know.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
The idea that you would get potentially to the bottom
of a lot of what is alleged here during the
criminal trial.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Or when he was alive.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
What I keep coming back to is like if they
did kill him, if they did, Okay, you're saying they didn't. Now,
I'm fine, you know this better than I do. Okay,
So let's assume that that's true. They killed him, how
the hell would she still be alive? Right, throw to
the level of he's got to go. Yeah, guess whose
else is going?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I mean there is these you know, this is a
very sort of Q and any kind of thing that
there's you know, five people in a room someplace who
are making all these big decisions and you hear various
iterations of it. It's the CIA, it's the mecade, it's
the Council off I'm a member of the Council on
Fugal Relations.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I wish I was that powerful.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
It's just not the overrate the efficiency of government. It's
a miracle that they managed to get up in the morning,
get to work and make what's supposed to happen happened
even halfway. Trust me what I tell you, have been
somebody who security clearist everything else.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
We're not that.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Clever tucking to Paul Morrow or efficient self proclaimed non
clever guy. He has retired and ypedi Incepactor, Fox News contributor,
founder of opsdesk dot org.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
We all read it every day. So think give me this.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Because Trump is you can clearly see a calculated effort
being made to move on from this story very much,
and everyone seems willing to go, but the Internet doesn't.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
The Internet is there. You know, we say this all
the time.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Everyone's trying to win the race to the top of
Mount clickmore and you get a lot more clicks being
like Trump's letting Israel run the country and protecting up. It's,
you know, a prevailing sentiment out there in web world. Uh.
My guess is he can move on independently of some
of that right wing Twitter support because the bigger issues
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you spoke to probably matter more to the average voter.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Is that where we are on this thing? Yeah, it
seems that way. It does.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
And I think they fall into the trap. When I
say that, I mean the administration. They do fall into
the trap with paying too much attention to the people
who are at the top of Mount clickmore, who are
driving a lot of these conversations. But they have influence
and they are proxies for the administration.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You don't want to lose them. You don't want to
lose it.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
But at the same time, what I always laugh about
when you think of things like that, okay, because they
would say that about Biden. You know, they'd be like, well,
you know, some of these liberal influence Joejoe from jurs
or Brooklyn, Dad, you don't upset her. Why is there
any where where she's going to vote for the Republican option?
And that's the same thing if you're clicking on some
of these right wing influences. There's no version of this
that ends with you voting for Pete Booty Judge in
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twenty twenty eight. So I just don't know, all right,
give me this though, since it's under the purview of
legal legality. Trump spoke earlier about the autopen scandal. Is
it common for a president to kind of outline a
curriculum for pardons but not be involved with the individual cases,
as Biden appears to have been according to this New
York Times report.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You know, if nothing else, as a guy who knew
that his mental capacity here was going to be child right,
if you were going to do Because they're falling back
now on the idea that I was in the loop
on it. Of course I didn't know all forty six
hundred apparently is the total of some place in there.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But I did categorical pardons.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Okay, If that's the case, and he was in the
loop on it, then where's where is the paperwork supporting that? Yeah,
because that's their fallback, right, So if you're thinking adversarial,
in an adversarial way, almost as a litigator, you would say, oh, okay,
so that's your defense. Where's the proof of that? This
should have been an executive order, an email, something that
directs them. Okay, anybody who is in thirty to life
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on a narcotics charge, we're going to let those person
people out, We're going to pardon those people.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
They would have to be some sort of.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
A paper trail here that would demonstrate he did categorical stuff.
They haven't proffered that. Instead, they set them up with
a disastrous interview of my estimation with the New York Times,
and it just you know, Harris Faulkner said last hour,
and I think she's very very right. She said that
he's reminding us of why we wanted so desperately to
get rid of them. Yes, I agree, But.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
When you talk about those outlined protocols and parameters, was
there any email that says a purported Chinese spy with
ten thousand alleged instances of kitty porn and his possession
should be led Like what would that fall under I know,
and that might fall under the we have to make
sure that nobody looks too far into Hunter category.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Wow, that's funny because that's really the case. I mean, look,
I don't have to guess here, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Hunter Biden and Joe Biden were in an oil deal
relative to CEFC, which is a stone Chinese Communist Party
linked external oil company. And that's the infamous instance in
which Hunter Biden said, I'm dealing here with the thing
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leader of the Chinese spy agency. Hunter believed he was
dealing with Chinese intel. Well, it's not an allegation, he
believed it. So the idea that and then if you
look at it, that guy gets arrested it.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, he goes to jail.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
He should have taken a hit of I think it
was three to five in about a year. And this
is not widely reported, and I don't know why he
was released and summarily exported home.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
They zoomed them right out of the country. And anybody
wants to look into that, you can find it on
the internet. The guy was called and then they zoomed
them right out. And you have to say to yourself,
how much cover up backtracking were and it was.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
An enterprise white. Yeah, you can't even imagine, So they were.
The point is they would read like there was a
motivation for a lot of these That's that's my point. Now,
you know, not all of them. But when you bring
up things like that, yeah, you say that might have
been part of the calculus. They might have said, hey,
look we got it. We got three, four five guys here.
We got to pardon them and get them the hell
out of here, because God forbid, they decided they're going
to talk to the National Review. So you know what,
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pardon four thousand people. Sprinkle these guys throughout.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Nobody will notice the fact that the guy who's holding
the luggage for the Hunt to Biden oil deal is
going to be shipped right back to Shanghai.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
But I'll tell you who did notice, the folks at
opsdsk dot org that's shut out to them.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
We did. We wrote, I wrote this all up.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
And it's just when you know, you write these things
as a journalist sometimes and you think, why is this
going to be a really big deal?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Because we got the receipts here.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
And we did you know, we linked and everything else,
and it was to drop in the bucket, and it
just shows you part of what is driving the news
is what you can get people's attention on, and it
goes to a little bit of the click more thing. Unfortunately,
it is the truth if I had gotten some You know,
a friend of mine billion clicks at.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
A friend of mine, Sam.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Antar, is the one who dug out the stuff about
Tis James.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
So is that why you it became a story? But
is that why you titled Tomorrow's blog entry Taylor Swift
sex tape?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I did, and I also put in there Jimmy fail
it didn't kill himself?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
The great Paul Morrow with the show that sees through
the bullet My response is right.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
You know, on the stripper Row, we're doing a Mom
Donnie minute with Paul Morrow, who's stuck around and was
gracious enough to give us the skinny on the New
York City Mayor because you locked the door. Well I did,
I did, But I have Curtis Leebare coming up in
the next hour, Sliwa're making a seventh and tenth of
the Mayor. So I don't know the answer on that,
but I always get a kick out of Curtis. But
Mom Donnie, you had told me off the air. Yeah,
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has a good amount of money.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Oh yeah, he does social media savvy and that's not nothing.
So I look at the.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Latest reporting, Mom, Donnie's funding comes from super packs and
he got matching funds. He got far more money from
the super packs than he did from any great you
know this this canard that he is a populist and
everybody is funding him from the ground up, and that's
not accurate. He got all the usual suspects, money to
Working Families party, funded by Soros.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Et cetera.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
And of course he is a TikTok candidate and left
fright center. Everybody agrees TikTok is a Chinese influence. So
is it any shock that his electorate tracks closer to
Beijing and Washington?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Oh gosh, dang it, Mom Donnie, this is why we
can't have nice things.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Great minute, Thank.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
You, buddy.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
This has been a podcast from WR