October 13, 2025 • 27 mins
🎙️ Breakfast Club Interview with BIA!
BIA stops by The Breakfast Club to break down her new album Bianca, sharing the vibe and creative vision behind the project. She also addresses Cardi B’s recent song “Pretty and Petty”, which threw shots her way — and BIA responds with confidence and clarity!
Plus, she opens up about the promo grind and what fans can expect from her new album self titled: Bianca.Tune in for real talk, bold energy, and all the inside scoop on BIA’s latest moves!
Follow the WJLB 979's Rewind Podcast for more!
BIA stops by The Breakfast Club to break down her new album Bianca, sharing the vibe and creative vision behind the project. She also addresses Cardi B’s recent song “Pretty and Petty”, which threw shots her way — and BIA responds with confidence and clarity!
Plus, she opens up about the promo grind and what fans can expect from her new album self titled: Bianca.Tune in for real talk, bold energy, and all the inside scoop on BIA’s latest moves!
Follow the WJLB 979's Rewind Podcast for more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Out the Breakfast Club wanting everybody's d J n V.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Just hilarious.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Charlamagne the Guy. We are the breakfast Club. Lona Rosa
is here as well, and we got a special guest
in the building.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
What's going on? Yeah, I love that. None of the
songs sound the sound. Yeah, none of them. You got
like a yo listen to it.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Yeah, I love that, and it's like pop yo.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's like a cross over time like all of that.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Some of the tracks, I'm like, all right, I can
see me shopping and Burgdorfs and Norum all the way
down to h and then you know, you got you
got some good some good music, car Ride music, got.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Do your make up music, Birthday, birthday song, Birthday Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
And then you got a little bit of biggie vibe
going on.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, a lot of biggies. That's what she said.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We were listening together. She was like, it's heavy biggie vibes, like.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Baby Biggie going on the floor.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Everything that you want to come on.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, my favorite song with the album is the Bad Guy.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Own.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's how she coming even biggie inspiration at all. Yeah,
Biggie Sean Fox, little Kim like that. We were listening
mainly like Foxy and Biggie Records that day and just
trying to like, that's.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
How I want to come on the song, even the
beginning of which was a trifle when she was screaming.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Like a big yeah, yeah, that was trifling.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I pray from my downfall like you screaming on the
beginning of that was trifling.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Right, Yeah, we can tell.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
How intentional are you about representing all sides.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Of your identity through your music, Super.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm glad you asked that question. I'm very intentional, Like
when it comes to the music, I just feel like
I'm a student of music. I love rap, I love
just the whole process of making music. And I started
with people that were really like you know, I started
with like Pharrell and people family that there's a really
there's like a really intense studio culture. So that's what
(01:53):
I came up on. And I really wanted this to
be a reflection of my years in music, not just
like one sound. And I didn't want you to be
able to expect what was going to come next on
the track list what.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I Can Wait for Real and fam because you were
signed with them at one point I think in twenty fourteen.
That's when I first heard it. Beer and you're not
with them anymore? What another business relationship?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I think like that that journey just like ran its
course and it was time for me to kind of
like go and do my own thing and step into
more of like a business woman entrepreneur mind of like
might run my own program. But I'm so grateful for
them for life, because that's where I think a lot
of my collectiveness when it comes to music comes from.
It's like just that whole artist development period, which a
(02:33):
lot of artists don't really have right now.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I also wanted to know what you being Puerto Rican
and Italian. When we were listening to the album it
finally did come up, I was like that, I wonder
how come she didn't dive into the Latino side more,
especially because it's.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
One of the biggest right now.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
When you talk about Spanish music, you see what bad
Boddy's doing, you see what all the Spanish artists are doing.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
How can we didn't dive into that more?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
That's a good question. I feel like when I'm make music,
I'm very like I'm a feeling artist, So like, whatever
is my feeling at that time or whatever I'm trying
to get off is what I'm going to, like intentionally
get off. But I do want to work on like
a Latin project on the side, because there's like a
lot of things I want to do with different sounds
and like merging and fusion fusion in them together. But
(03:18):
I got a song with Becky G that I'm really
excited about Hardway and that's like to me, like you know,
and with Young Miko, and they're like two of my
favorite girls, like on the Latin side, especially too.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
This is your official debut album.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
How do you approach this project different than other projects?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Like how do you say this is my album?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
This is my album? They you know what they say,
you have your whole life to like work on your
first album. And I always didn't feel like I was
ready up until I would say, like maybe a year
or two ago. I started to be a lot more
intentional with the music that I'm putting out, and they
were like, you know, of course people call for you
to have an album at different times, and I'm like,
I'm not ready. I'm not ready, but that's because I
(03:58):
don't think personally I was ready to like check my
frequency and what I'm putting out into the world.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Why why didn't you think you was ready? It was
just a personal thing, like you had to do some
in the work.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, Like I think I didn't. I didn't. I didn't
go through enough. And I think like when you're a
new artist, like people are like, Okay, cool, this is new,
this is cool. But I think people have to see
the growth and people have to see you like go
through in order to be like, Okay, let me take
a listen and let me let me give this person
a different a different eye.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Then you almost forgive me. Then you ast die what
the motorcycle.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Motorcycle crash.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Just like wow, you said you was ten or.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Twenty of y'all on bikes. You was a pastor that
junk driver with a U turn. You flew twenty to
thirty feet in the air. You fell on the floor.
You hit the floor like, oh my god, in my alive.
You look down, your leg was split open. You didn't
know if he was going to keep your leg or not.
It was bad. I did surviving that motor cycle accent
and changed just the way you approached your life and everything.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I think at that time I was just living so
fast and I was so excited to be doing music.
I just signed my deal with for Real, like maybe
two weeks before that, so I thought like my life
was about to change, like oh yeah, we on yeah,
and then it was like.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
But I was still in the studio at that time,
like on crutches, just because I wanted people to see like, oh,
I'm serious about this, Like it made me a lot
more grateful and realized like don't play with your time here,
you know, and don't play with people like because you
don't know when you're going to lose somebody very quick.
So what is it that you wanted to go through
(05:38):
to be able to do this album? Because I mean
that's a life changing experience. You are signed at that point.
I'm sure you've had life before that, Like is it
like heartbreak or like what did you think you needed
to experience? I just don't think I had experienced enough,
and like in terms of just life, experience, love music,
whatever the case. Maybe like I don't think I don't
(06:00):
think I was ready, and I don't think that I
cared about the frequency that I was putting into the universe.
Like even now I'm a lot more conscious of like
what I'm saying online, what I'm doing online, what I'm
doing like in general, just because it's like it's all
a universe, it comes back to you.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Well, a lot of that sounds like that.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
That sounds like impostera syndrome, a little bit like you
had to deal with Pharrell, but you just weren't sure
who you were in that.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Moment on maybe not sure if the position you were in.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, I think I always knew who I was, but
I think at that time, like Pharrel was trying to
help me develop and fam was trying to teach me
how to be a real artist. So for them, they
were like, Okay, do this beat, do that beat, do
this beat. And I didn't know what my sound was
when I knew deep down the side like oh I
want to come like this, but they're trying to like
help me widen my palette and like be a better artist.
(06:50):
So I don't think I fully grasp that at that time.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And then you were just trusting them because these are
successful creators that came before you, so you just putting
it in their hands, just trusting it, right.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Not really, I think you just don't know enough about
the business at that time.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Oh down for be it right, because you had a
trajectory to go through the roof. At one point, right,
a whole lot of money came out and then remix
with with Nikki, You have records with J Cole, you
had records with artists, and you was all over the place,
and then it just seemed like it just stopped or
it just slowed down.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Was it business? Was it label? Was it personal?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
It was never business label personal. It was more so
like trying to balance like touring and creating because I'm
a real I'm a real creator. Like my favorite part
about this is going to the studio and making songs
and then going and performing them. But like I love
being in the studio. Like they'll tell you could lock
me in the studio for a week, I will not leave,
(07:45):
Like I'll sleep there, like wake up there, brush my
teeth and record there. Like I love being there. That's
my hash place.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So like that's the only whole reason why I got
into this. And so at that time, it was so busy.
It was like show, show, show, show, show, and I
was like I missed be in the studio, Like I
really want to go back to the studio. So it
was like finding that balance at that time and also
making new music and figuring out like Okay, what do
I how do I want to come and what do
I don't want to just make bops like I just
(08:14):
I got to that point where I'm like, I can
make cool songs, but like, I want intentional songs that's
going to mean something that's going to be here after
I'm gone. That's gonna reflect my legacy and what I'm
putting out into the universe.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So did you like a Whole Lot of Money because
it popped off TikTok viral right.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I loved it and it was one of my favorites.
When everybody else didn't get it, I got it. So
they didn't get it. People didn't get it before at first.
A Whole Lot of Money was out for like six
months before people and at the time they were like, oh,
it's a monotone ors flow, like she's wrapping in that
low tone. They didn't really get it. Now there's so
many people rapping in low tone, monotone voices, like girls everything.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
So we'll be back with more bill when we come back.
It's the world's most dangerous mornings short of breakfast club.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I don't know when my nags, heame so complicated, can't
recall my money.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
To have us and it's badi. Maybe this is called
my DeFi you know, I'm chady mom. Pistis on my mind.
Pistis on my mother, trying to pull her mother. I know,
my pasty feeling the woman and I'm clothing in the
next tripping and no way somebody doings so she don't
(09:36):
desert it or.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
It's still on my mind.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
She's still on my mind. And we built it up,
build it up. Just still love it all. Shut let
me eat it ill they show up. Please you up,
just do what you know?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Wait, help me, Yes, it's the one you just want
to show.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
The breakfast club we're talking to be her new album,
BEYONCEI is out right now. What moment in your career
thus far has tested your confidence more?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I would say getting out of my first deal, because
when you leave a situation that's so big and it's
not what you envision it to be, you think like,
oh my god, what's next? Or like am I going
to be able to top this? But I feel like
I've always had so like every everything that came next
(10:30):
was always bigger and better than I could have predicted
and like, you know it's a cliche, but God's plan
is literally like way better than our plan. Like we
could show up and write it out, but how it
goes it is like it's never up to us. Who
is the person that was playing at the Sofi Stadium
that was taking you through with y'all? On the album
(10:51):
you mentioned you said you had shows and he had
something that Sofi and I'm like, well, that's the NFL
team that play at the Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Dig into No.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It was just like a no, no. You said this
is your most personal, vulnerable album or.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, you could have said any other studium. You could
have said met life. That was very.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Specific that gave Okay, I just at that time, like
I had been to the Soulfi, so I went there
and then there was an NFL team playing, and then
you had met a person no, Like I had just
been to the Soulfi, So it was just stuck out
to me like, oh, this is one of those places
that I was at. But on this album, on Bianca,
(11:35):
I feel like it's very very personal for me. It's
the most vulnerable I've ever been on the album. Yeah,
because there's another song too, the girl I was along
the ride with you in the beginning of the album, right,
it seems like whoever this person is or people different experiences,
you're going through it, and then you get to I
think it's like sad party or one of the party
or one of the songs, and you realize who you are.
(11:56):
You like, you can't take back. I mean, I want
nothing because you can't take it back from me. And
I'm like, okay, So whoever he was? She realized, No,
I'm the prize, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Who was the going through Its interesting when you say
that long because you went you're the prize to talk
about that being in that moment.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I'm so glad you said this, Lauren, you are tea
because when I talk about the track list, like I
literally take people through the track list and it's like
I'm like, Okay, don't turn me to the bad guy,
because I don't want to play for you, but like
I want to, Like it's like it's taking you through
like the day in the life almost of me and
kind of just like finding my way and like dealing
with different people, whether that be relationships, friendships, and and
(12:39):
I'm just like finding my way and you and y'all
are just coming with me on the journey throughout that project.
So there is like love moments in their heartbreak moments
and yeah, sad party girl, take a couple of shots.
Oh n w f A is for the you know
what that's for because they will, they will do it.
(13:00):
That's about the men's the man we will.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
The person know that you're talking about them, the one
that you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I don't know if he'll know, and I don't know
if it if it's for him, I think it's just
like that's like a therapeutic for me. I'm gonna get
off whatever I got to get off at the studio.
If you offended body it that's on you. But likes,
I'm here for me.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You really feel like anything? Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Absolutely what the Homeboys?
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You ain't anything.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Like anything at one point anything else?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You are?
Speaker 5 (13:35):
You are anything to somebody.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Everything to the right person.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Don't but it is playing anyway you.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Think that, Yeah, I think a lot of them will,
not everyone, but I think a lot of them will.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
What experience made you feel like that? Who? What did
she look like? That? Like that damnthing?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
It's so true? Girl, Like if you really if you
go through some of these phones, you'll see what's going on.
I'm not saying do that, but I'm just saying like
they will, they will do anything anything.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Damn damn.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Nobody hurt me. I trust me. I'm superheled, Like yeah, no,
for sure, I'm happy. I know my work. Like, I'm
not that girl that's gonna be up like crying over
a man's like or like even begging him to like
get it right, Like.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
What's the wireless thing you did? Be you have to
do something? Wilder?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Man?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Kid?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Call?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And what's the wildless thing you did when you laughing? Now,
at least pulled the knife that's Spanish.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, I can't remember really honestly, truly, that would be
like incriminating myself.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I started smiless.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So you remember something something perto Rican and Italian?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Well what does peace look like for you in an
industry that thrives on chaos and competition?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
You you asking such great questions today. I was a
little worried about you, But I like how you coming
all right. Pieces like is a is a me thing?
Like like the piece comes from me all across the board.
When it comes to like my career, my relationships, I
(15:26):
seek balance and I just seek to be intentional with
everything I do. In that way, I don't feel no
type of way when anything happens, because I'm coming how
I need to come every time. If you get me
what I mean by that. The piece for me is
like a I go to sleep every night. I could
look myself in the mirror with what I've done, and
I have integrity. I have like I have who I
(15:49):
still am when I came here, Like I'm not a
different person than when you met me five years ago.
Other than success or different money I've made, or like
different experiences I've had, I'm the same person.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Like, well, what does piece look like in the industry
that thrives off comparison?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What does piece look like? You got to be a
peaceful peace with yourself.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
In this industry that you know that thrives off comparison.
It like to compare people to everybody, like, oh, yeah,
this person reminds me of this person. That person reminds
me of that person.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
True, you got to make a song like this person
because this song is popping.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, I don't. I don't really feed into that. I'm
not really that Like, I'm not one of those people
who are like shaken up by what people say, Like
I have tough skin. Maybe that's what it is. Like
I love competition. I'm a leo, so I'm bark bark
like you want it, I'm coming, Like I will say
(16:42):
I was expecting because I know we just we saw
some step on piece and you choose a piece. There
are some piece chose on this album because I didn't
get a straight Cardi disc on the album. Why would
be I don't know, I don't even know, Like why
would you think that? Because when Cardi dropped her song
pretty and Petty asf you posted in the studio and said, well,
now I have sixteen songs that you can name, so
the fans thought we would get a response on the project.
(17:05):
It's not to say I don't have a response, but
I think, like where I'm at right now, like that
was a year ago, Like and what am I going
to do? Like keep keep beefing with partisans like over
and over again, Like why would I? I don't want
to do that? You, I don't want to do that,
Like I know what it started from, she knows where
it started from. Like the only thing I'm here to
(17:27):
do right now is to like make people pay attention
to my album, and like, if I decide to address
it six months from now, two weeks from now, a
year from now, who I can address it. But I
could address it on wax. That's what I did the
first time I went to the she said my name,
I went to the studio and addressed it in twenty
four hours. And then you made me weigh a whole year.
So what I'm supposed to do bring myself back to
(17:48):
a lower frequency when I'm already up here?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Be it? Which want he out? What you want to play?
I want to hear a bad guy, bad guy?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
All right, Yeah, let's play bad guys.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Let's get in the bad guy right now?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Her new album, Beyoncia, is out right now. Now, where
did the beef start?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Somebody help?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I don't know you, okay. So there was like something
about you supposed to have like a sex tape or
something like that that she Cardi said this when she
was here too, that there was like a sex tape
that she had heard that was circulating and it was
from you. And then there was but before that, it
was like you make the video that she made. Uh,
there was like subliminals online with you saying she's like
(18:31):
stealing your style with the video and like that whole thing.
Then it led into y'all back and forth. Yeah, like
that on the right.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Path, you're a master manifesto in order exactly where you're going.
Alignment at its finest, you can choose where to go.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Now, that's so funny? Are you? Are you so you know?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I'm I'm done.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
So where it started was there were fans that were
like bringing up similarities between like a video, a couple
of songs. I'm I'm an artist. I write all my stuff.
I don't have the resources like that maybe an artist
or a bigger platform would have. So when something like
that it's brought to my attention, it's disheartening for like
an artist that do everything on their own. So when
(19:11):
you see something like that, I'm like, Okay, I set
my piece. I liked the tweet she called my phone
screaming like trying to like bully me or hold me
out of how I feel like. You can't hold me
out of how I feel like. That's just what it is.
So that's where it all started. It has nothing to
do with sex age. I don't even know what sex
age they I don't even know what that's about. Like
(19:32):
there was a lot of people also too that at
that time that when I was going to the studio
to make my disc because she dissed me first. So
when I went to the studio to go, okay, I'm
going to the studio Ra Rah. It was in Atlanta,
So there was a lot of different people that was
inting out the studio hearing what I was saying on
the records, going back saying stuff to her offset whoever
they were saying it to. But that had like the
(19:55):
stuff that she was saying that I was saying I
was not saying. Like they even called, like she even
called me multiple times with like managers on the phone,
my friends on the phone, like trying to get me
on three way to record me do all this weird stuff.
And like I have real when I get on the
phone with somebody, I'm genuine. So my first intention is
not like when cour this is like can use it
those a receipt. Like when I get on the phone
(20:16):
and I speak to you, it's genuine. I have no
ill intentions. I know everything I said on that phone call.
I know everything I said to her about her. That's
just not how I rote. So like we could have
even had a conversation about it if you inspired by
somebody or you think somebody is tight, like it's nothing
wrong to be Like if the fans pull out that similarity,
you to be like, oh, yeah, I think she's fired,
but while you got a downplay and be like, no,
(20:38):
I didn't do that's that's not what I would have
with that, Like that's not true. You know that's not
true because it's receipts. So that was my issue. This
isn't even about her. This is really about real artists,
like the artists that get up and go to the
studio and care about the creative and do their work
and have limited resources. I'm speaking for them. This is
not even about her anymore. Like it's like I'm anti machine, Like.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
You know, you talked about the machine, and it seems
like you've moved from being like just under major labeled
to carving out your your own lane. Like what did
the industry teach you about ownership and self work?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Well, I own my masters and like so I care
about like you know, I have my publishing, my masters,
all that stuff I care about, like the business side
of things, because I didn't know about that coming in
so when I did understand like what all this is about.
My goal is to like teach younger artists and kind
of like mentor and feel that space of like what
I didn't have when I came into this industry. So
(21:38):
that's really what's important to me. Like I just want
to focus on that, be an example to that, and
just keep growing my business on an entrepreneurial side, not
just like an artist on the front side.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
And you started on to the hip hop right, Wow,
So that showed would you say that helped you?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Absolutely? I think that a lot of people can look
back in my journey and be like, oh wow, like
this is a real thing. I started with like three
thousand followers I started with, like people saw my grind
go to the studio. So I care about the music
for real, Like I love music, I love doing it.
It's not really about I never care to be so famous.
I don't like date and put my business out in
(22:16):
the world. Like there's so much about me that's private,
because I want people to with the music and I
want people to pay attention to like what I'm doing
in the world philanthropy, like community outreach like that, And
was there a.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Lot of one, that show, another one show. It's interesting
that they actually made those shows for female rappers. I
guess to you know, have a platform and get seen,
and you actually have people who came from those shows
and had success. How hard was it to keep a
response record off?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Though? I'm sure people on your team was like, yo,
you should respond for the fans.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I'm sure well, especially because how fast you responded when
everything was happening. I got a studio in my house,
so like I read just for me to go and
get it all. I didn't want to have the same
like mentality as I did the first time, because I
did learn like the energy you put out into the
world is the energy you will receive. So I was like,
(23:10):
how do I want to go about this? I could
say something nasty again, but it's like okay, and then
what you know?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So you did a record.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I'm just saying, like I'm always doing records. I have
a studio in my house, I record myself.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So how do we make peace?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
We got bad Bunny at the super Bowl in February, Like,
we want to see that Bunnie.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Bunnie this, but Bunny, Yeah, what do I have.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
To do with I want to see.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
But she had a allience, so that's probably won't. Yeah,
I honestly, I don't know. Man, this is life. Like
you let it go how it goes, and it works
yourself out. I just show up with good energy and
good vibes and everything will come back. Do you really
do your own? Sometimes? Okay, yeah, they're jel x. Sometimes
(24:03):
I have a nail a nail studio like at my house.
Yeah house, that photo you took in front of the
b A sign when you put posted that, that was
in your house. That's the studio in your house. Which
one when you talk about you got the sixteen songs
we can name no No, No No in the studio
that wasn't in my house. That wasn't a different But yeah,
(24:24):
I do, I got a nice house studio, Like I
love my house. Like I'm glad too. You said something
earlier about you said you made these songs a while ago.
Like you just focused on that because you know, even
though it's not a shot, but the mention of Stefan Diggs,
that line, people won't take that. Girl, You're speeling a
lot and this you gotta let people listen to this thing. Well,
I'm just asking because when people see this interview and
(24:46):
they started talking about it. They're gonna make it seem
like it was something that it's not. Yeah, No, I
recorded that. It was just a bar like I do,
bars and metaphors. I could rap, so it's bars and
metaphors and bars and all through my songs. But the
line is not you wrote it down. Yeah, just like stephone,
(25:10):
I don't know it was plus for it for I
actually have a TikTok when I when I recorded that,
the day I recorded it was long before this, So
I'll show you. I'll show you. I got receipts for
everything for real. I'm not a liar, Like.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, I want to ask you whose decision was it
not to go back and beef right, because I'm thinking
about it now. The sad thing is is the album,
which is a dope alblem we listen to it will
get overshadowed by the beef and the fact that there's
no beef there. I'm hoping that people actually get to
see who be it is and not just somebody online
beef and so whose idea was?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's like, you know what, I'm not gonna do.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I want people to see me, especially for my debut album.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I say it was my idea, the hard decision as
a rapper.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Absolutely, I've even been going back in U until yesterday,
Like I going back and forth with it every day.
It's like, do I want to respond to this right now?
Because but at the same time, I would be doing
a disservice to myself with everything I put into this
album making it about her, you know, like when I
could just go and I could drop something at any time,
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like that came a year ago. I dropped that record
a year ago, Like it's I would be doing a
disservice to myself. I would say that, like there's so
much more importance to like my message and like what
I'm here for than to rap beef. I've been out
for over ten years. I've never got into a rap beef.
That says a lot about me, Like I have great
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relationships in this business because I carry myself a certain way,
So why would I ruin that? Like I can address
it at any time, but I'm just here for a
bigger mission right now.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
I like the fact that Cardy waited though only because
I just feel like this is still a business at
the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, why not respond if you're going to respond on
your album.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You know that's from that school of biggie and whole.
So you came from the school. You're gonna get my
album and happy balls.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
She came to the school.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You listen to the album, you can tell.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, I'm just I'm just like on a different vibe.
I have like way. I don't know, maybe I'm so
happy and peaceful in life right now, Like I'm so
happy and so peaceful.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Why you're in the album saying well.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Because that song I did a couple of months ago.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yaka is out today, ladies. It's the breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It's people, can you make your.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I can make your.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Can make She got that club to she Michael Jackson bad,
I'm attracted to her attractive and that we murders because
we killed time.
Out the Breakfast Club wanting everybody's d J n V.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Just hilarious.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Charlamagne the Guy. We are the breakfast Club. Lona Rosa
is here as well, and we got a special guest
in the building.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
What's going on? Yeah, I love that. None of the
songs sound the sound. Yeah, none of them. You got
like a yo listen to it.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Yeah, I love that, and it's like pop yo.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's like a cross over time like all of that.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Some of the tracks, I'm like, all right, I can
see me shopping and Burgdorfs and Norum all the way
down to h and then you know, you got you
got some good some good music, car Ride music, got.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Do your make up music, Birthday, birthday song, Birthday Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
And then you got a little bit of biggie vibe
going on.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, a lot of biggies. That's what she said.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We were listening together. She was like, it's heavy biggie vibes, like.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Baby Biggie going on the floor.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Everything that you want to come on.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, my favorite song with the album is the Bad Guy.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Own.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's how she coming even biggie inspiration at all. Yeah,
Biggie Sean Fox, little Kim like that. We were listening
mainly like Foxy and Biggie Records that day and just
trying to like, that's.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
How I want to come on the song, even the
beginning of which was a trifle when she was screaming.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Like a big yeah, yeah, that was trifling.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I pray from my downfall like you screaming on the
beginning of that was trifling.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Right, Yeah, we can tell.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
How intentional are you about representing all sides.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Of your identity through your music, Super.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm glad you asked that question. I'm very intentional, Like
when it comes to the music, I just feel like
I'm a student of music. I love rap, I love
just the whole process of making music. And I started
with people that were really like you know, I started
with like Pharrell and people family that there's a really
there's like a really intense studio culture. So that's what
(01:53):
I came up on. And I really wanted this to
be a reflection of my years in music, not just
like one sound. And I didn't want you to be
able to expect what was going to come next on
the track list what.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I Can Wait for Real and fam because you were
signed with them at one point I think in twenty fourteen.
That's when I first heard it. Beer and you're not
with them anymore? What another business relationship?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I think like that that journey just like ran its
course and it was time for me to kind of
like go and do my own thing and step into
more of like a business woman entrepreneur mind of like
might run my own program. But I'm so grateful for
them for life, because that's where I think a lot
of my collectiveness when it comes to music comes from.
It's like just that whole artist development period, which a
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lot of artists don't really have right now.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I also wanted to know what you being Puerto Rican
and Italian. When we were listening to the album it
finally did come up, I was like that, I wonder
how come she didn't dive into the Latino side more,
especially because it's.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
One of the biggest right now.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
When you talk about Spanish music, you see what bad
Boddy's doing, you see what all the Spanish artists are doing.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
How can we didn't dive into that more?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
That's a good question. I feel like when I'm make music,
I'm very like I'm a feeling artist, So like, whatever
is my feeling at that time or whatever I'm trying
to get off is what I'm going to, like intentionally
get off. But I do want to work on like
a Latin project on the side, because there's like a
lot of things I want to do with different sounds
and like merging and fusion fusion in them together. But
(03:18):
I got a song with Becky G that I'm really
excited about Hardway and that's like to me, like you know,
and with Young Miko, and they're like two of my
favorite girls, like on the Latin side, especially too.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
This is your official debut album.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
How do you approach this project different than other projects?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Like how do you say this is my album?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
This is my album? They you know what they say,
you have your whole life to like work on your
first album. And I always didn't feel like I was
ready up until I would say, like maybe a year
or two ago. I started to be a lot more
intentional with the music that I'm putting out, and they
were like, you know, of course people call for you
to have an album at different times, and I'm like,
I'm not ready. I'm not ready, but that's because I
(03:58):
don't think personally I was ready to like check my
frequency and what I'm putting out into the world.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Why why didn't you think you was ready? It was
just a personal thing, like you had to do some
in the work.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, Like I think I didn't. I didn't. I didn't
go through enough. And I think like when you're a
new artist, like people are like, Okay, cool, this is new,
this is cool. But I think people have to see
the growth and people have to see you like go
through in order to be like, Okay, let me take
a listen and let me let me give this person
a different a different eye.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Then you almost forgive me. Then you ast die what
the motorcycle.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Motorcycle crash.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Just like wow, you said you was ten or.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Twenty of y'all on bikes. You was a pastor that
junk driver with a U turn. You flew twenty to
thirty feet in the air. You fell on the floor.
You hit the floor like, oh my god, in my alive.
You look down, your leg was split open. You didn't
know if he was going to keep your leg or not.
It was bad. I did surviving that motor cycle accent
and changed just the way you approached your life and everything.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I think at that time I was just living so
fast and I was so excited to be doing music.
I just signed my deal with for Real, like maybe
two weeks before that, so I thought like my life
was about to change, like oh yeah, we on yeah,
and then it was like.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
But I was still in the studio at that time,
like on crutches, just because I wanted people to see like, oh,
I'm serious about this, Like it made me a lot
more grateful and realized like don't play with your time here,
you know, and don't play with people like because you
don't know when you're going to lose somebody very quick.
So what is it that you wanted to go through
(05:38):
to be able to do this album? Because I mean
that's a life changing experience. You are signed at that point.
I'm sure you've had life before that, Like is it
like heartbreak or like what did you think you needed
to experience? I just don't think I had experienced enough,
and like in terms of just life, experience, love music,
whatever the case. Maybe like I don't think I don't
(06:00):
think I was ready, and I don't think that I
cared about the frequency that I was putting into the universe.
Like even now I'm a lot more conscious of like
what I'm saying online, what I'm doing online, what I'm
doing like in general, just because it's like it's all
a universe, it comes back to you.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Well, a lot of that sounds like that.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
That sounds like impostera syndrome, a little bit like you
had to deal with Pharrell, but you just weren't sure
who you were in that.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Moment on maybe not sure if the position you were in.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, I think I always knew who I was, but
I think at that time, like Pharrel was trying to
help me develop and fam was trying to teach me
how to be a real artist. So for them, they
were like, Okay, do this beat, do that beat, do
this beat. And I didn't know what my sound was
when I knew deep down the side like oh I
want to come like this, but they're trying to like
help me widen my palette and like be a better artist.
(06:50):
So I don't think I fully grasp that at that time.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And then you were just trusting them because these are
successful creators that came before you, so you just putting
it in their hands, just trusting it, right.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Not really, I think you just don't know enough about
the business at that time.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Oh down for be it right, because you had a
trajectory to go through the roof. At one point, right,
a whole lot of money came out and then remix
with with Nikki, You have records with J Cole, you
had records with artists, and you was all over the place,
and then it just seemed like it just stopped or
it just slowed down.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Was it business? Was it label? Was it personal?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
It was never business label personal. It was more so
like trying to balance like touring and creating because I'm
a real I'm a real creator. Like my favorite part
about this is going to the studio and making songs
and then going and performing them. But like I love
being in the studio. Like they'll tell you could lock
me in the studio for a week, I will not leave,
(07:45):
Like I'll sleep there, like wake up there, brush my
teeth and record there. Like I love being there. That's
my hash place.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So like that's the only whole reason why I got
into this. And so at that time, it was so busy.
It was like show, show, show, show, show, and I
was like I missed be in the studio, Like I
really want to go back to the studio. So it
was like finding that balance at that time and also
making new music and figuring out like Okay, what do
I how do I want to come and what do
I don't want to just make bops like I just
(08:14):
I got to that point where I'm like, I can
make cool songs, but like, I want intentional songs that's
going to mean something that's going to be here after
I'm gone. That's gonna reflect my legacy and what I'm
putting out into the universe.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So did you like a Whole Lot of Money because
it popped off TikTok viral right.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I loved it and it was one of my favorites.
When everybody else didn't get it, I got it. So
they didn't get it. People didn't get it before at first.
A Whole Lot of Money was out for like six
months before people and at the time they were like, oh,
it's a monotone ors flow, like she's wrapping in that
low tone. They didn't really get it. Now there's so
many people rapping in low tone, monotone voices, like girls everything.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
So we'll be back with more bill when we come back.
It's the world's most dangerous mornings short of breakfast club.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I don't know when my nags, heame so complicated, can't
recall my money.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
To have us and it's badi. Maybe this is called
my DeFi you know, I'm chady mom. Pistis on my mind.
Pistis on my mother, trying to pull her mother. I know,
my pasty feeling the woman and I'm clothing in the
next tripping and no way somebody doings so she don't
(09:36):
desert it or.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
It's still on my mind.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
She's still on my mind. And we built it up,
build it up. Just still love it all. Shut let
me eat it ill they show up. Please you up,
just do what you know?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Wait, help me, Yes, it's the one you just want
to show.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
The breakfast club we're talking to be her new album,
BEYONCEI is out right now. What moment in your career
thus far has tested your confidence more?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I would say getting out of my first deal, because
when you leave a situation that's so big and it's
not what you envision it to be, you think like,
oh my god, what's next? Or like am I going
to be able to top this? But I feel like
I've always had so like every everything that came next
(10:30):
was always bigger and better than I could have predicted
and like, you know it's a cliche, but God's plan
is literally like way better than our plan. Like we
could show up and write it out, but how it
goes it is like it's never up to us. Who
is the person that was playing at the Sofi Stadium
that was taking you through with y'all? On the album
(10:51):
you mentioned you said you had shows and he had
something that Sofi and I'm like, well, that's the NFL
team that play at the Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Dig into No.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It was just like a no, no. You said this
is your most personal, vulnerable album or.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, you could have said any other studium. You could
have said met life. That was very.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Specific that gave Okay, I just at that time, like
I had been to the Soulfi, so I went there
and then there was an NFL team playing, and then
you had met a person no, Like I had just
been to the Soulfi, So it was just stuck out
to me like, oh, this is one of those places
that I was at. But on this album, on Bianca,
(11:35):
I feel like it's very very personal for me. It's
the most vulnerable I've ever been on the album. Yeah,
because there's another song too, the girl I was along
the ride with you in the beginning of the album, right,
it seems like whoever this person is or people different experiences,
you're going through it, and then you get to I
think it's like sad party or one of the party
or one of the songs, and you realize who you are.
(11:56):
You like, you can't take back. I mean, I want
nothing because you can't take it back from me. And
I'm like, okay, So whoever he was? She realized, No,
I'm the prize, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Who was the going through Its interesting when you say
that long because you went you're the prize to talk
about that being in that moment.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I'm so glad you said this, Lauren, you are tea
because when I talk about the track list, like I
literally take people through the track list and it's like
I'm like, Okay, don't turn me to the bad guy,
because I don't want to play for you, but like
I want to, Like it's like it's taking you through
like the day in the life almost of me and
kind of just like finding my way and like dealing
with different people, whether that be relationships, friendships, and and
(12:39):
I'm just like finding my way and you and y'all
are just coming with me on the journey throughout that project.
So there is like love moments in their heartbreak moments
and yeah, sad party girl, take a couple of shots.
Oh n w f A is for the you know
what that's for because they will, they will do it.
(13:00):
That's about the men's the man we will.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
The person know that you're talking about them, the one
that you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I don't know if he'll know, and I don't know
if it if it's for him, I think it's just
like that's like a therapeutic for me. I'm gonna get
off whatever I got to get off at the studio.
If you offended body it that's on you. But likes,
I'm here for me.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You really feel like anything? Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Absolutely what the Homeboys?
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You ain't anything.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Like anything at one point anything else?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You are?
Speaker 5 (13:35):
You are anything to somebody.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Everything to the right person.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Don't but it is playing anyway you.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Think that, Yeah, I think a lot of them will,
not everyone, but I think a lot of them will.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
What experience made you feel like that? Who? What did
she look like? That? Like that damnthing?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
It's so true? Girl, Like if you really if you
go through some of these phones, you'll see what's going on.
I'm not saying do that, but I'm just saying like
they will, they will do anything anything.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Damn damn.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Nobody hurt me. I trust me. I'm superheled, Like yeah, no,
for sure, I'm happy. I know my work. Like, I'm
not that girl that's gonna be up like crying over
a man's like or like even begging him to like
get it right, Like.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
What's the wireless thing you did? Be you have to
do something? Wilder?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Man?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Kid?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Call?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And what's the wildless thing you did when you laughing? Now,
at least pulled the knife that's Spanish.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, I can't remember really honestly, truly, that would be
like incriminating myself.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I started smiless.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So you remember something something perto Rican and Italian?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Well what does peace look like for you in an
industry that thrives on chaos and competition?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
You you asking such great questions today. I was a
little worried about you, But I like how you coming
all right. Pieces like is a is a me thing?
Like like the piece comes from me all across the board.
When it comes to like my career, my relationships, I
(15:26):
seek balance and I just seek to be intentional with
everything I do. In that way, I don't feel no
type of way when anything happens, because I'm coming how
I need to come every time. If you get me
what I mean by that. The piece for me is
like a I go to sleep every night. I could
look myself in the mirror with what I've done, and
I have integrity. I have like I have who I
(15:49):
still am when I came here, Like I'm not a
different person than when you met me five years ago.
Other than success or different money I've made, or like
different experiences I've had, I'm the same person.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Like, well, what does piece look like in the industry
that thrives off comparison?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What does piece look like? You got to be a
peaceful peace with yourself.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
In this industry that you know that thrives off comparison.
It like to compare people to everybody, like, oh, yeah,
this person reminds me of this person. That person reminds
me of that person.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
True, you got to make a song like this person
because this song is popping.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, I don't. I don't really feed into that. I'm
not really that Like, I'm not one of those people
who are like shaken up by what people say, Like
I have tough skin. Maybe that's what it is. Like
I love competition. I'm a leo, so I'm bark bark
like you want it, I'm coming, Like I will say
(16:42):
I was expecting because I know we just we saw
some step on piece and you choose a piece. There
are some piece chose on this album because I didn't
get a straight Cardi disc on the album. Why would
be I don't know, I don't even know, Like why
would you think that? Because when Cardi dropped her song
pretty and Petty asf you posted in the studio and said, well,
now I have sixteen songs that you can name, so
the fans thought we would get a response on the project.
(17:05):
It's not to say I don't have a response, but
I think, like where I'm at right now, like that
was a year ago, Like and what am I going
to do? Like keep keep beefing with partisans like over
and over again, Like why would I? I don't want
to do that? You, I don't want to do that,
Like I know what it started from, she knows where
it started from. Like the only thing I'm here to
(17:27):
do right now is to like make people pay attention
to my album, and like, if I decide to address
it six months from now, two weeks from now, a
year from now, who I can address it. But I
could address it on wax. That's what I did the
first time I went to the she said my name,
I went to the studio and addressed it in twenty
four hours. And then you made me weigh a whole year.
So what I'm supposed to do bring myself back to
(17:48):
a lower frequency when I'm already up here?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Be it? Which want he out? What you want to play?
I want to hear a bad guy, bad guy?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
All right, Yeah, let's play bad guys.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Let's get in the bad guy right now?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Her new album, Beyoncia, is out right now. Now, where
did the beef start?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Somebody help?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I don't know you, okay. So there was like something
about you supposed to have like a sex tape or
something like that that she Cardi said this when she
was here too, that there was like a sex tape
that she had heard that was circulating and it was
from you. And then there was but before that, it
was like you make the video that she made. Uh,
there was like subliminals online with you saying she's like
(18:31):
stealing your style with the video and like that whole thing.
Then it led into y'all back and forth. Yeah, like
that on the right.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Path, you're a master manifesto in order exactly where you're going.
Alignment at its finest, you can choose where to go.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Now, that's so funny? Are you? Are you so you know?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I'm I'm done.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
So where it started was there were fans that were
like bringing up similarities between like a video, a couple
of songs. I'm I'm an artist. I write all my stuff.
I don't have the resources like that maybe an artist
or a bigger platform would have. So when something like
that it's brought to my attention, it's disheartening for like
an artist that do everything on their own. So when
(19:11):
you see something like that, I'm like, Okay, I set
my piece. I liked the tweet she called my phone
screaming like trying to like bully me or hold me
out of how I feel like. You can't hold me
out of how I feel like. That's just what it is.
So that's where it all started. It has nothing to
do with sex age. I don't even know what sex
age they I don't even know what that's about. Like
(19:32):
there was a lot of people also too that at
that time that when I was going to the studio
to make my disc because she dissed me first. So
when I went to the studio to go, okay, I'm
going to the studio Ra Rah. It was in Atlanta,
So there was a lot of different people that was
inting out the studio hearing what I was saying on
the records, going back saying stuff to her offset whoever
they were saying it to. But that had like the
(19:55):
stuff that she was saying that I was saying I
was not saying. Like they even called, like she even
called me multiple times with like managers on the phone,
my friends on the phone, like trying to get me
on three way to record me do all this weird stuff.
And like I have real when I get on the
phone with somebody, I'm genuine. So my first intention is
not like when cour this is like can use it
those a receipt. Like when I get on the phone
(20:16):
and I speak to you, it's genuine. I have no
ill intentions. I know everything I said on that phone call.
I know everything I said to her about her. That's
just not how I rote. So like we could have
even had a conversation about it if you inspired by
somebody or you think somebody is tight, like it's nothing
wrong to be Like if the fans pull out that similarity,
you to be like, oh, yeah, I think she's fired,
but while you got a downplay and be like, no,
(20:38):
I didn't do that's that's not what I would have
with that, Like that's not true. You know that's not
true because it's receipts. So that was my issue. This
isn't even about her. This is really about real artists,
like the artists that get up and go to the
studio and care about the creative and do their work
and have limited resources. I'm speaking for them. This is
not even about her anymore. Like it's like I'm anti machine, Like.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
You know, you talked about the machine, and it seems
like you've moved from being like just under major labeled
to carving out your your own lane. Like what did
the industry teach you about ownership and self work?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Well, I own my masters and like so I care
about like you know, I have my publishing, my masters,
all that stuff I care about, like the business side
of things, because I didn't know about that coming in
so when I did understand like what all this is about.
My goal is to like teach younger artists and kind
of like mentor and feel that space of like what
I didn't have when I came into this industry. So
(21:38):
that's really what's important to me. Like I just want
to focus on that, be an example to that, and
just keep growing my business on an entrepreneurial side, not
just like an artist on the front side.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
And you started on to the hip hop right, Wow,
So that showed would you say that helped you?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Absolutely? I think that a lot of people can look
back in my journey and be like, oh wow, like
this is a real thing. I started with like three
thousand followers I started with, like people saw my grind
go to the studio. So I care about the music
for real, Like I love music, I love doing it.
It's not really about I never care to be so famous.
I don't like date and put my business out in
(22:16):
the world. Like there's so much about me that's private,
because I want people to with the music and I
want people to pay attention to like what I'm doing
in the world philanthropy, like community outreach like that, And
was there a.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Lot of one, that show, another one show. It's interesting
that they actually made those shows for female rappers. I
guess to you know, have a platform and get seen,
and you actually have people who came from those shows
and had success. How hard was it to keep a
response record off?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Though? I'm sure people on your team was like, yo,
you should respond for the fans.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I'm sure well, especially because how fast you responded when
everything was happening. I got a studio in my house,
so like I read just for me to go and
get it all. I didn't want to have the same
like mentality as I did the first time, because I
did learn like the energy you put out into the
world is the energy you will receive. So I was like,
(23:10):
how do I want to go about this? I could
say something nasty again, but it's like okay, and then
what you know?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So you did a record.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I'm just saying, like I'm always doing records. I have
a studio in my house, I record myself.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So how do we make peace?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
We got bad Bunny at the super Bowl in February, Like,
we want to see that Bunnie.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Bunnie this, but Bunny, Yeah, what do I have.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
To do with I want to see.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
But she had a allience, so that's probably won't. Yeah,
I honestly, I don't know. Man, this is life. Like
you let it go how it goes, and it works
yourself out. I just show up with good energy and
good vibes and everything will come back. Do you really
do your own? Sometimes? Okay, yeah, they're jel x. Sometimes
(24:03):
I have a nail a nail studio like at my house.
Yeah house, that photo you took in front of the
b A sign when you put posted that, that was
in your house. That's the studio in your house. Which
one when you talk about you got the sixteen songs
we can name no No, No No in the studio
that wasn't in my house. That wasn't a different But yeah,
(24:24):
I do, I got a nice house studio, Like I
love my house. Like I'm glad too. You said something
earlier about you said you made these songs a while ago.
Like you just focused on that because you know, even
though it's not a shot, but the mention of Stefan Diggs,
that line, people won't take that. Girl, You're speeling a
lot and this you gotta let people listen to this thing. Well,
I'm just asking because when people see this interview and
(24:46):
they started talking about it. They're gonna make it seem
like it was something that it's not. Yeah, No, I
recorded that. It was just a bar like I do,
bars and metaphors. I could rap, so it's bars and
metaphors and bars and all through my songs. But the
line is not you wrote it down. Yeah, just like stephone,
(25:10):
I don't know it was plus for it for I
actually have a TikTok when I when I recorded that,
the day I recorded it was long before this, So
I'll show you. I'll show you. I got receipts for
everything for real. I'm not a liar, Like.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, I want to ask you whose decision was it
not to go back and beef right, because I'm thinking
about it now. The sad thing is is the album,
which is a dope alblem we listen to it will
get overshadowed by the beef and the fact that there's
no beef there. I'm hoping that people actually get to
see who be it is and not just somebody online
beef and so whose idea was?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's like, you know what, I'm not gonna do.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I want people to see me, especially for my debut album.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I say it was my idea, the hard decision as
a rapper.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Absolutely, I've even been going back in U until yesterday,
Like I going back and forth with it every day.
It's like, do I want to respond to this right now?
Because but at the same time, I would be doing
a disservice to myself with everything I put into this
album making it about her, you know, like when I
could just go and I could drop something at any time,
(26:20):
like that came a year ago. I dropped that record
a year ago, Like it's I would be doing a
disservice to myself. I would say that, like there's so
much more importance to like my message and like what
I'm here for than to rap beef. I've been out
for over ten years. I've never got into a rap beef.
That says a lot about me, Like I have great
(26:42):
relationships in this business because I carry myself a certain way,
So why would I ruin that? Like I can address
it at any time, but I'm just here for a
bigger mission right now.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
I like the fact that Cardy waited though only because
I just feel like this is still a business at
the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, why not respond if you're going to respond on
your album.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You know that's from that school of biggie and whole.
So you came from the school. You're gonna get my
album and happy balls.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
She came to the school.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You listen to the album, you can tell.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, I'm just I'm just like on a different vibe.
I have like way. I don't know, maybe I'm so
happy and peaceful in life right now, Like I'm so
happy and so peaceful.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Why you're in the album saying well.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Because that song I did a couple of months ago.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yaka is out today, ladies. It's the breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It's people, can you make your.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I can make your.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Can make She got that club to she Michael Jackson bad,
I'm attracted to her attractive and that we murders because
we killed time.
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