Kehlani sits down with The Breakfast Club

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ninety w J you checking out the breakfast club wanting
everybody it's dj NV, just hilarious, charlamage the guy we
are the breakfast club, Lawnla Roses here as well.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
We got a special guest in the building. Indeed number
one record. The record is flying on the Chelsea Player
what every hour on the hour? Damn there one of
my wife's favorite records. Right now, ladies and gentlemen, Kalani welcome.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hey guys, I'm really good.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Are you bla black naugh?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
How's your energy?

Speaker 4 (00:28):
It's good?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Can can I tell you guys something before we started?
Of course, it's very important that during this era of
my life, I let everyone know that my name.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Is pronounced ka Lannie.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Otherwise, you, guys, good morning.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
I'm really good.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
This might be like a stupid question, but like, why
this right right now? Why have you been correcting people?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I feel like I have here and there, but then
like it just blows under, like nobody cares. Nobody just
says out there. I want to say, it's not that
big of a deal. I have family members who say,
Kilani got you? But do you know, I'm like I'm
thirty now, I'm feeling a little like, let's just get
you know, it's been ten years, my.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Name wrong for ten years.

Speaker 6 (01:11):
Yeah, you know, we all like to create safe spaces
for ourselves. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
I don't think you can create.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
A safe space of people calling you out your wrong name,
because I think if I was doing an interview with somebody,
say Kilana, and the whole interview, you might be thinking
I should have corrected it.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
I should have corrected, I should have corrected.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
But no one wants to be that person as like
sour as the moment. It's like by the way, scratch
that you know, well, here we are now now you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Know yes, Kaylin, how does it feel fold the number one?
How is that feeling?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
It feels really good. It's been a long time coming.
I've been getting told for the last eight years of
my life. You know, you're always one song away. You're
one song away or one song away, we see it
for you. And so to have the song and everything
be changing in this way, it's really nice.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
You know that was the record. When y'all did it,
did you know that was going to be it?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
No, it was the most accidental thing in the world.
Even making it was accidental. It came about accidentally. I'm
in la I get a call to come finish this feature.
But the guy's like, I'm out to go on this
massive tour, like, so you have to come finish it
with me in person. Bring the producers, Come to Miami,
Bring the producers. We go to Miami and for two
days we just can't figure out this song that we're

(02:15):
supposed to finish, and we don't want we didn't want
to waste the time, so we went to a studio
house with Don Mills, who actually plays a guitar on
the song, and Dre Harris came and the first beat
he played was the folded beat from his boy DKA
the Punisher, and I bring it in the other room
and I just keep singing this hook and everybody's like,
that's really cool, Like let's build on it.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
And we stayed there for a week.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
But every single day after, you know, we made that song,
it'd be the one song from the like the camp
that we just kept replaying. And I hit my label
and I was like, I don't know, like, I know
you guys are looking for what is it. It's like
as a Juni or July at this time, I'm not sure.
I know you guys are looking for like the club
single the banger. This is not that, Like, this isn't

(02:56):
really song of the Summer, I don't, but this feels
like an introduction to like where I'm at mentally musically,
my you know, maturation in my like my sonic journey.
And let me just tease it, like, let me put
it out. You guys don't have to, you know, don't
freak out. But it feels good and it just kind
of like took its own life.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
And there we are.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
There's a lot of emotional intelligence to fold the man's
clothes and tell him come and get him instead of just.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Throwing them all over the lawn.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, I mean, I'm definitely not voting a man's clothes.
Oh well, anyone's close. Yeah, But I think it's a
very nuanced perspective, and I'm watching a lot of people
be on this, you know, really extreme side of it,
either like Carolin is way better than me, You're clothes
of being a trash can, or.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
I'm not taking time for that, right or.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
They're like, yeah, I'm folding instantly, I'm folding the clothes
and ascid who cares if they did wrong in the
song I verbade them say, like I probably should have
asked for space, but I kind of told you to
walk away, which means I probably jumped the gun and
I overreacted, and I need to express to you that
you did hurt me, but also maybe come over.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
So we can talk about it.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
So it's more of like a nuance her conversation existing.
That's kind of like, both, you did hurt me, but
we also need to speak and I also might have
not you know, handled this the right way. And let's
just get in the same place and get in each
other's face and come talk about it.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I'm gonna use your clothes bait.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
Guys like accountability, Yeah, no, ghos, I think you're choosing
vulnerability over wearing emotional armor.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
So, So what shifted in your real life that allowed
that change?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think something happens when you you know you're turning thirty,
I mean, astrologically, something major happens, you go through a
side and return and outside of that, I just I've
been through a lot in the last couple of years.
I've really spent, you know, making the changes I needed
to make. I know I saw you guys last time
we talked about mental health and all those you know,
it's been a year since then. I think when I

(04:46):
came to you guys last time, I was a week
into being diagnosed. I just started medication. I'm not a
year into like that journey. Very settled in, very in
my routine, very very healthy, and being able to assess
myself and assess my situation and you know, just be
on top of my stuff. Honestly, that allowed me to
be able to come to a place to write from

(05:06):
the perspective I'm able to write from.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Now when you have it on the other side, meaning
where you have the person to throw the clothes in
the bag and then throw the closes out the window.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Course, Yeah, I've been like a twenty five year old
girl before. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
What has your journey been like since you said last
time they saw you it was like first week of Yeah,
you know, what has your personal journey been like? You know,
using your medicines now and kind of understanding you know
your body and your mental that what is that up
and down or consistency been like?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
It has been different?

Speaker 7 (05:36):
Free?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, I mean bipolar disorder is a really layered thing
that also because it's so stigmatized in the world, and
there's so many jokes about it that I think people
get really confused. You know, they think, Okay, I will
up with attitude, and then later on I felt better
than I had an attitude again, so I'm bipolar. It's a
way bigger, deeper thing than that. And I think medicine

(05:58):
and my therapy journey gave me the opportunity to have
thought applied to my mood and thought applied to situations
when you like, in other ways, I wouldn't have had
the thought. I would have just felt it and it
would have just left, and next thing you know, there's
episodical things happening, and next thing you know, I'm just gone.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
With the wind. But this, I wouldn't say it stops it.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Completely, but it really allows you to have a process.
And I think that that's been the biggest difference is
I have so much, so much option for process now.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
And I can go through these things and take them.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Slowly and think about them and like have a second
where I'm like, you know, I have the tools now.
I have a tool belt of things I can apply,
like do I go this way, do I take a walk?
Do I like, this is not the reaction that I
want to This is not the version of myself that
I want to show up in this situation.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
So things like that, I think.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I would say it's difficult being vulnerable, right for all this,
How difficult is that because it's showing aside of yourself
that I'm sure you think that maybe people are laugh
But then on the other side, I'm sure as the
side that says there's so many people dealing with and
I love the fact artists are doing more. We've seen
it with Gucci the same thing. So when did you
realize I could be that vulnerable? And was it a
hard line to draw to be like? Do I want

(07:08):
to be this vulnerable? Do I want to share this experience?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I think I've always been messally vulnerable, but I grew
up in front of the world. You know, everybody's been
seeing me doing interviews like this since I was nineteen
years old, and I think when you're viewing it on
the outside, you kind of timestamp people like artists get
timestamped and whatever version of themselves stuck out to the fan.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
So there's people who still view.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Me as something I went through when I was twenty
four and like, that's who they'll see me as forever.
And when you're twenty four at that time, you're also
confidently speaking in these interviews because you're like, this is
who I am right.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Now, and I get it. Then ten years later you're like.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh my god, I don't know who that person.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
I mean, it hasn't been ten years for me. But
I'm thirty now and I'm looking back at things I
said when I was twenty four to twenty five, even
twenty seven, and I'm like, yikes, even a year ago,
I'm like, okay, like growth, I'm different now.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
It's good though, you have your self awareness to So.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
It was supposed to go, yeah, we got more with
Kay Lottie.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
When we come back, don't move. It's to breakfast club,
good morning.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
It is so silly and mead and that's that lead
you back went up a l. I can think about it,
says A say you least I know.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
I didn't have to walk away.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
All I had to do was ask for space.

Speaker 7 (08:46):
I'm telling you beyond your way.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
When I told Juph fall back, So can you come
back up?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Your house?

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Food got so compact of yo coat.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
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A new single, out the Window is out now. Charlamagne,
you know this. This haves to feel good to you too.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
The success of folded because vocally you were one of
the first artists I saw publicly showing support for Palestine,
and I mean you spoke out when a lot of
people weren't. I know, you lost shows because of it,
you were barred from things. How does it feel having
a success and you have it for being on the
right side of history.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
I think if we have the courage to do things,
and then so we see people have success after doing
the things that we deem scary, we might be more
courageous to do them. And I think it's important that
other artists see that I've been able to thrive after
all those things happen. I mean there's still things that
I will never be allowed to do, or things that
are not getting picked up or oh yeah, for sure,

(10:10):
but probably forever. I don't think people realize how deep
it goes. I didn't even at the time realize how
deep it goes. Also, to be really frank, I was
incredibly manic. So a lot of the routes that I went,
the yelling and the you if all you guys, if
you guys don't want to stand and da da dad,
and you know what, have my team could go if
y'all don't speak, just these different routes versus like, hey,
let me calm down and be strategic about this, because

(10:30):
in every single movement and every single political yeah movement
across the board, there's more strategy involved in the way
that you communicated, the way that you choose to organize
the things that you engage with, And at the time,
I didn't really have those resources.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
To think in that way.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
So yeah, there's still things that I'm experiencing that I
probably will experience for a really long time. But I
think this other side of it is speaking to the
fact that when there's great music, there's great music, and
when people love the music and they love the art,
then you can can't really be taken.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Out in that way.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
I'm a stern believe that you should always move off
strategy over emotion, but you can understand the emotion when you're.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yes, it's so understand well.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
I was so much grace for how I handled it
because I was really just passionate and upset. I was angry.
We should have all been angry. It was really terrible
to watch and treacherous to feel some kind of like
a part of because like our country is such a
big part of it. But I definitely wish that I
was able to call myself to be smarter about the
way that I went about it for my own sake

(11:29):
and for being a leader in front of a camera
for other people.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
And how do you feel when other artists don't speak
about it when they have the opportunity do you look?
How does that feel to you? Because you jumped out
the window and yeah, you got banned from things.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
And I think it's really easy to say, like I
want to be very clear with my words, Like it
is really easy to say that I hate them for
it or I really blame them. But after experiencing everything
I went through, which went way deeper than just being
banned from things that you know, got into my safety,
my family, dynamics, my friendships.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
I had to move.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
It put me into a really bad paranoia. Every time
I left the house, it was everybody out to get me.
And did I need security to sit in front of
my house and was anybody plotting on me?

Speaker 4 (12:13):
And the death threats?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I got it.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
My show was like highly organized, typed out, detailed death threats.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
It's easy to.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Say like that shouldn't matter because we should all be,
you know, up in arms, and part of me is like, yeah,
we should. But also I wish there was it wasn't
so sinister, like the lashings behind the scene. I wish
it wasn't so sinister, and I wish it wasn't something
to be afraid of. I think if we all spoken
numbers and there was so many of us, it wouldn't

(12:42):
be so easy to just come after one person. I
think when you leave it to be one or two people,
it's easy to just get them out of here. We've
seen it historically. But if it's a lot of people,
who can they get there's a.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Bunch of us.

Speaker 6 (12:52):
Didn't make you speak out even more because you did
the red carpet on the as you voiced support for Palistine,
So when you were getting back lives behind the things,
You're like, now I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Go out there even more.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I just like I was like I'm already here, Like
I'm already experiencing every time I'm experiencing, and it hasn't.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Stopped, like it hasn't stopped.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Like it's still you know, cease fire and all still
hasn't stopped. And if even if you know, the genocide
itself does stop, there's a much larger thing at hand there,
which is, you know, ending the apartheid. So I don't know,
I don't think it was ever like an intentional I'm
gonna choose to speak. I was asked a question on
the carpet, and I answered it, and my stance remains

(13:33):
the same.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
So it's just interesting that.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
You would still be getting back like because even the
UN Chief said there are strong reasons to believe that
war crimes have been committed.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, but we're dealing we're dealing with a very delusional
other side. It's a very delusional side where you have
shown videos and you've shown facts and they've seen things
and the response is literally, that's not even real, Like
y'all made this up, you know, like you kind of
at some point have to be like, oh, Okay, there's
a game here, and I'm not going to play this

(14:02):
game with you guys, because you know what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
I'm not gonna I'm not going to play it.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
I saw the comments about you know, you speaking out
on ICE and them going into schools and things, and
that I know you're a mom as well, but like,
has there have you experienced any similar pushback from the
other side or wherever because of those comments?

Speaker 4 (14:18):
No? Yeah, yeah, Zionism is a much.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Larger, deeper, darker, sinister thing than good old regular American racism,
even though they're very intertwined and they walk hand in
hand with each other a little bit. But yeah, no,
I haven't experienced any pushback from that. I think we're
all more comfortable talking about that in general than you know,
anything else.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
So I was gonna ask you know, we also see
you speak out about AI in the industry, and the
crazy part about it is, uh, I agree with you,
but I think it's crazy for an artist. We had
Tank and they they were talk about they think it's
a good thing and that you know, artist and the
industry needs to adapt to it. I think it kind
of hurts. The fact of the creativity is not better

(15:05):
than Kilina you executive, right, Yes, would you either sign
and artist that you got to deal with makeup, hair, manages, security,
all that, or AI person that you ain't got to
deal with nothing. You cut a check and just let
the money come. But if you tell me that person
you just said, it's kay Lane, I'm taking Kaylaney work.
They're going to see her drive, You're going to see

(15:26):
how hard she goes. And oh, so, what's your thoughts
on it?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I think there's so many layers to it. One we're
gonna put out there that you know, it's not good
for the environment. It's affecting communities everywhere, but especially disparage
Black communities in Americas, messing with the waters, messing with
the air like it's going to make people sick in
the long run. We move on from that and get
into all these aspects of music.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
That are being in jobs. Let's forget music, right.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I'm speaking to music because I'm being asked about music,
you know, but I'm not. I think there's a much
larger thing of like, all these little jobs that people
are employed to do that is keeping their families going,
that is literally feeding everyone around them, are just gone
and we don't realize we're training, you know, these systems
to do those things.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
There's things that I understand. I think I was told.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
About how it is working for surgeries, like these robots
are helping in surgery precise you know, more precise surgeries.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
And then there's you know, like the disabled community and
being able to get things done in that way.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
And I've experienced producers and writers be stuck on something
and use it to help or like finish something and
then get it replayed or get it remade.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
And like, those aren't exactly things that I'm super mad about.
Like I'm not going to bark at them the same way,
but overall as a whole.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
But a fake person, a fake art, as a fake singer.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
It's just unfortunate because I think music is such a
God given thing. It's it's it's the highest gift, you know,
God gave to Earth's used in every single religion across
the board to connect with God. It's it's it's a
very powerful thing. And for it to be generated in
that way and also be what it's what it's using
to be generated is a combination of real people's stories
and real people's voices and real people's.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Feelings and emotion.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
And for all that to happen even deeper than oh,
it's going to take our jobs, because there's this sensationalized
sentence of mind.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
That's like, why do I have to compete with a computer.
But it's not about competing.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
It's more like, this is a disruption of something that
God gave us, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (17:30):
And that feels wrong to me. Like it's music is
such a it comes from.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Here, it's given here, and to have that generated through
a computer just feels like it just feels wrong.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
I like this argument, l I like this because I
feel the same way. It is a downistad from God,
downloaded from a computer, and but you not have you know,
they have Jesus Ai. You can log on and have
meaningful conversations with Jesus and Jesus a message and then yeah,
that a biblical verse.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
I think it's gonna go so far. I think it's
gonna go so far.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I don't think people are thinking about the negative implications,
like being able to be framed for things, being able
to have images created of your children that are inappropriate.
That lives on people's computers and they can do whatever
they want to it. When you're when you wake up
one day and somebody has a sex tape of you
that never happened.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
If they can make that's happening. Now. Have you heard
about the people getting the phone calls ago?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
They call you and you hit your kids and somebody.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
I need a X amount of money because my kid
got kidding, Like I don't think people are. It's just
cute and fun and games now and you want to
make videos of Malcolm X eating and seafood boil with
Martin Luther King and and Michael Jackson and Prince have
an argument about whose funeral was more lit, Like I've
seen them all. You know it's it's but there comes
a point when you have to realize that where there's
always light and fun, there's always going to be the

(18:55):
extreme of that existing somewhere that we can't access it.
And I also think something is real, Senator about the
White House using.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
So much aih.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
This election is gonna be crazy.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Yeah, it's gonna be nice. How are they gonna be
able to say anything was real or false?

Speaker 2 (19:08):
We got when we come back, it's the breakfast club,
good morning.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Who know a silent treatment be so bloud? I built
attention even too. You're not a band. One night a
mistake you raised.

Speaker 7 (19:33):
All the days that's beending building up with you damn
get anything for you to pick up when I talk,
So I do it, just say I'm talking to the world.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
I no want to blame. I'm playing face. It's too little,
too late, but.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I won't you.

Speaker 8 (19:55):
I focus, it's so much, don't throw it? How right?

Speaker 6 (20:14):
I told.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Good morning everybody at dj NV, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the
gud we are the breakfast club. It's still kicking with
Kate Lani Laurie.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
What do you say to the people, because I know
one of the conversations that you were having was specifically
about the three million dollar deal, the reported three million
dollars Zanaya, the Ai, the thing I don't even.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Know how to compute it.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yeah, the artist that I'm on a guide Right. There
are people that will say all of that is true,
but there's good and bad with everything. But on the
other hand, you have this black woman who is using
her poetry to write lyrics and now it's three million
dollars wealthier.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
And able to do for her family and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
I mean, I said, even in the times I've spoken
about her, I'm not mad at her ability to have
done that for herself.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
I think it's dishonest. The way we're speaking about.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
It, because I think it's a very interesting thing to
be responding to particular comments and saying certain things but
not telling the truth.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Tell the truth.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
You wrote a couple lines, you said a couple words,
then you framed I might want it to sound like this,
and go like this, and take from this and make
it sound like this and make it appeal in this
way and make me look like this, and dah da da,
and it did all of that. You're doing fifteen percent
of the job. Let's just be honest about what the
fifteen percent of the job is. If you write poetry,
I would love to write with a poet. I've written
with poets before they come in. We write together. I

(21:38):
turn their words into a song. I use my songwriter
brain to apply to their poetry brain, and we make a.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Really beautiful product.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
But I'm watching her answer these questions, and I'm watching
the lies accumulate and take together in her head to
try to figure out what to say. And we could
just tell the truth and say what the tool is
being used for, and then maybe it can have its
separate charts, or it cannot, because you're right, there is
no stopping yet. I could get you know, for being
said it should have its own charge.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
But at this point.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Something has to be done with AI artists.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
Yeah, I mean I had created something called a guaranteed human.
I saw that at least we're going to be human
like the personalities and music. But if one day they
do decide to play AI music, it'll still you know,
this is a music.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
So yeah, it's less about I want everybody to feed
their families and be successful at the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
That like, that's my wish. If I had one wish
in the world, it would be for everybody to have
their needs met. So I'm never mad at that.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
I like you said, because I was going to ask you,
what does authentic music have that AI generated music could have.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
God? Yeah, that's it. I don't. I don't. I don't
play with things like that. You know.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
It's it's it's it's such a deep thing, and I
feel like not us being able to I watched the
A artists even.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Talk about God. Is it is insane? The AI gospel
that is insane.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I'm looking in zenaia Mon's Yeah, I'm looking at Zanaimon's
comments and they're saying, since you're anointed that's kind of crazy.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
I mean, I'm gonna go look at the comments right now,
but I will say when I first heard the song,
when everybody was up in arms, I had listened to
the music and I went and listened and I was like.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Oh, this is actually like it's good music because you
know what it's doing though.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's analyzing the community that she's trying to appeal to,
which means it's studying black women, saying what do black women.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Want to hear?

Speaker 3 (23:29):
What perspectives, what type of voices, what kind of stories,
what kind of emotions, and then accumulating all of that
and going I'm going to give you a package deal
of exactly what you want, even down to what I
look like.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
It's an artificial annointing, artificial. I don't know if that
girls on it. I don't know if that goes on
the same.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Sentence, but you know, hey, are you a guesst the
chat GPT stuff as well.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
I'm against people putting it in place of very human things.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Look, we are entering.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
It makes life easier for a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
It does, and that's the argument. It does because kids
go to school.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
You can type it a pay I have to do
a report on this type in chat GBT that you have.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
The argument of, like people who can't afford English classes
that moved here, I need English classes?

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Is teaching them English? Like? There are there's.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Always gonna be this thing that's like, there are things
that it is good for, and there are things that
it is bad for outside of you know, what's it doing,
what it's doing to the environment, But we become gluttonous
with it, and it's there is not regulated, guys. That's
really the problem is that it's not regulated. Did you
not see the moments where people were telling their g

(24:36):
or CHADGBT to cancel itself and then it hops servers
to avoid getting.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Deleted like eye robot. Yes, it hot. I promise you
can look this up right now.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
It jumped servers because it didn't want to get If
it can observe all of our emotions, why couldn't it
be able to think of something as sinister as we
could think of and not want to get canceled or
not want to get deleted, or not want to be
gone or want to.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
It's studying us twenty four to seven.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Yeah, it's something, I mean, I totally agree with you
with the god thing, because there's something to be in
a spiritual being living in human existence, right, Like we're
supposed to make mistakes, We're supposed to try to figure
things out like us, like through prayer and meditation and
just and therapy.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Community. Being a community member is really important.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Talking to people, having other people talk to you back,
sharing experience, messing up together, being held accountable, being called in, growing,
getting applause from other humans, getting love from other humans.
If we're all just going to be alone, getting all
those things from a robot, like we're gonna stunt ourselves
as a world, as a species. I agree, then what
happens to love and what happens to art and what

(25:37):
happens to music?

Speaker 8 (25:38):
I just had.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I've been having this conversation for weeks, Like you know that,
paired with how the internet's obsessed with destroying each other
and calling and completely ruining people's lives and doing all
these kind of things, We're entering a very individualistic, let's
kill community for people kind of world, like we're isolating
everyone from every side, technology and each other. Is becoming

(25:59):
this huge isolaate. He's some isolation party and it's really sad.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
How does that make you as a mom now because
you have a daughter. Hell, are you raising your child
in this type of world that you just named? You
know what I mean? Because these other kids, when they
go to these colleges and schools, they're gonna be using chat, GPT.
You know, these other kids are gonna be using things
that necessarily you don't agree with, you know, So how
do you raise that daughter in this crazy world with information?

Speaker 4 (26:22):
I think I give her all the information possible.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
I don't lie to my kid, I don't, you know,
obviously you don't just outright tell her terrible things, but
like you give her all the information so she knows
what's out there, and I tell her why this, I
don't agree with this, Why I think this is bad?
Why you know, I'm not going to say no to this,
but I'm going to give you another option and explain
why that option is probably the better option to do,
and let her decide. Ultimately, I can't protect her from

(26:46):
what she learns at school and what her friends share
and things like that. But at home, we're very like
human focused, and I'm very communal.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Like.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
She has a big extended family. She's a million aunties
and uncles and cousins, and she lives a very I
have community and people around me kind of life. She's
not sitting in the corner on her iPad alone all day.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
That's just my life.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Did she see the How does she feel about the
evolved version of Kaylanie?

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Right?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Because you said you've.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
She's six, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Between three and six and four and six, and like,
Mommy's cool now.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
I mean, I've been her mom the whole time. I've
just been my daughter's mom the whole time. How everyone
else gets to see me is never going to be
how she sees me, because I'm just her mommy. I
always have been, I always will be. I don't fall
apart in front of her. I don't put it. I
don't put her in any adult situation. And she doesn't
have a clue if anything is going on with me.

(27:39):
I've just been her happy mom this whole time. And
I take pride in that you switching gears. You said
Brandy was on your Mount Rushmore? Yes, who else, Stevie
Wonder is the head of the Mount Rushmore?

Speaker 4 (27:51):
What is it? Vocals are just I think artistreet okay, okay, okay, and.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
This for everybody, or you said every artist, every singer
should have this Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I think every singer should have different kinds of Mount Rushmore's.
Like I said, she should be on the vocal Mount Rushmore,
but also artistry like in general, but she should be
on everyone's vocal Mount Rushmore on. I want to vocal
my vocal Mount rushm Okay, Brandy.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Can't put them next to each other.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Have a beautiful tour. They're having a beautiful tour, please,
I'm sorry. Yeah, Beyonce, Whitney Houston.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Honestly, yeah, definitely what I wanted.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
To make sure it was.

Speaker 8 (28:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
I mean that's a lineage, right, there's no Brandy without you.
Last one Brandy, I'm gonna say, Mariah.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, we're talking about like freaky level like channel talent
of like Okay, well, will anybody be able to ever
do that again?

Speaker 4 (29:03):
No type people.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Well, if you want to see Kaylan and she's going
to be performing at our jingle Ball in Miami and
our jingle Ball in Atlanta, And we appreciate you for
joining us.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Thank you. We always get real deep in here.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
One time Kaylane didn't want to come up and she's like,
I ain't with the breakfast. I was scared of you guys,
scared of his mother. But we got through it.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
We were having different conversations then, Yes, I was look
at us growth.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,