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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's jet out the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Morning.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Everybody is KJA MV Jesse hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We
are to breakfast club loan rules and see it as well.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We got a.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Special guest in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yes, indeed we have a comedian, Jordan's Clepper. Welcome. I'm
feeling good. How you guys doing He's doing well, doing well.
You always keep the project. Last time you was here
with your last field teach right with time, it's we're
not fuel peace. You got a whole documentary documentary. Yeah,
now you're here for.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Your special Jordan clipper fingers. The polls give demand a prize.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Let me tell you it's nothing about projects. You how
hard it is to keep health insurance in this country.
You have to keep working constantly and contractually. I'm obligated
to go out in the field and do special after
special after special.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
So that could make you sick. So you go need
all that healthcare. I need that healthcare. Trust me.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I'm getting old too. I got bad feats, I got
weird shoulders. I wake up now my hip doesn't work.
So yeah, I need to keep I need to keep
out there talking to people about politics.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Are you really a people person. Do you like the people?
Do I like the people? I know? Not not like
the people? Do you like the people? I call it
people in you're using that as a verb. Yes, Do
I like to people? I do. I feel comfortable peopling.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I think it's my Midwest nice that that makes me
like jump into spaces, try to find commonality. I've met
a lot of people, though, I definitely have I have
a love hate relationship with people as a general idea.
I've seen they're good, I've seen they're bad. There's a
lot of them live somewhere in the middle. But I
like getting getting to know them a little bit. I'll
(01:32):
tell you people off camera are so interesting to me,
and those are the people that I like the most.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You know, I go into these Mogel worlds.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I go into these these strange spaces, and the camera
shifts the way in which everybody talks about stuff, makes
them more certain, makes them more argumentative, makes them versions
of themselves that they see online. And then that camera
goes off and they got they got music interests, they
got wives they have had issues with, they have food interests,
they have peccadillos that you just sort of gravitate towards
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so people without a camera on their face, those people,
those are the best people.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
What about when you walk in a room and the
camera's not on and somebody says, make me laugh.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yes, well you're just a gesture. You know what. Sometimes
that happens.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Sometimes you want to come on the breakfast club, you
want to have a nice conversation, and then you walk.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Into a room and I say, you make me laugh.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The bar is set. Yeah, you get nervous.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Because he said, do I look good?
Speaker 7 (02:22):
And I was like, you look great, just make us
laughing because I thought, as a comedian, when you're making
people laugh, it makes you feel good. I wanted you
to feel comfortable and welcome. You did, yes and happy.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well, here's the problem.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
As a comedian, you complimenting the way I look made
me feel uncomfortable because my expectation. My expectation is I look,
I look strange, I'm ill fitting clothes. I think that's
how I see myself. So you set me off my
game by making me feel good about myself.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's on you.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
I'm sorry if you look if you want me to
walk it?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
What's wrong? Talk about the fit? Where did I go wrong?
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Really?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Really do that.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
No, you don't have to know this is it's a
new jacket, is it okay?
Speaker 6 (02:57):
I like the jacket. I just wouldn't have put it
with that shirt.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
There it is. She's wearing a full leather onesie and.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
You're going to I just don't know what jacket though.
And I thought the hair was a good compliment to
the jacket. But but if you want me to talk bad,
I just I felt you could want with a lighter shirt.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Lighter shirt. Thermal. It is a thermal because it's cold.
It is cold, but it's texture. There's a texture on texture.
You don't like that.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
The texture is just very different to wear a white
T shirt. I mean, do you do a unique well,
I see I know your friends. Yeah, they have really
great T shirts that you could have put the thermal under,
put the white T shirt and it would have with
the sneakers. I looked at your shoes when you talked
about your feet, and I just thought, why are you
doing it?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Me to do it?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I respect it, I respect it, I need it's just
the part of people that you like right on the
line right now. I gotta tell you this. You know
I do specials. I do specials because I get health insurance.
I do publicity so I get fashion tips.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I can't pay for a publicist. You're helping me here.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Do you feel comfortable? You told me to do it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You know I like it. I respect that.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Now you don't want a graphic t you're saying a
plain tea is the way to gothing like this?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Yeah, I think a plan would have been wrote too.
Like you seem like effortless.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Oh that's what you're getting out of this.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yeah, good thing.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I'll take effortless. She said, you see efforless, but you
actually tried this morning. I'm trying.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
There was so much effort put into this moment. Here,
you can see it. It's bled into the interview last night.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I can tell you did it last night.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I'm gonna kill with this, like put it in school.
Do you know I ironed this corduroy jackets? Damn, I don't
even know if you was supposed to iron a corduroy jacket.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Jesus show, that's up the jacket. This is good. This
is good intel. I didn't know you. Yeah, you steam
corduroy instead of ironing corduroys. This is helpful. I had
a towel over in the steam through the tower. You
can do that too.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Did you put the tower?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I did not put the towel doves?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
But you know Jordan's real comedian because soon Laurence said,
make me laugh, and Jordan was like, type five.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I got it, airline food, I got I got thoughts
on that. Let's got it.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
No special type of fingers the poles.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Give the man a prize.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Fingers the pole sounds crazy, but let's talking about his name.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Have you met Figers of the balls that gout? Oh boy,
it's a bit handsy. Okay, stay away, all right, he's
got a rap sheet. Don't look into him, don't google
the guy.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Are you messed with Macca people? Aget man? What's wrong
with you? You just like just you know what? I
like getting out there? See, I like getting out there.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
This one was wild because we're trying to figure out
what to do a special on and two things were
happening simultaneously, Like Trump was sending troops into cities because
he said it was World War two in Portland and Chicago,
and at the same time he wanted the Nobel Peace
Prize because he said it was the most peaceful guy
on the planet crazy. So we're like, all right, that's
that's a hypocrisy. That makes for comedy and a special.
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So it's like, let's go after this Nobel Peace Prize
desire and let's talk to people about like what's actually
happening in these cities, which is chaotic, absolutely, And.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It's interesting because the special blend stand up with what
you do in the field. What did you want audiences
to understand about America that you couldn't capture just through
field pieces and just well, I.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Mean, I think when you look at something like this,
what piece looks like in America, what it feels like?
What is so night We went to Portland, which was
supposed to World War two, and if you're watching Fox News,
if you're watching the right wing political sphere, all you're
seeing is this is a war zone.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
This is chaos. You never want to visit.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
We went there on the Naked Bike Ride, which was
a comical experience full of people dressed as some people
who were naked, some people who were dressed as cartoon characters,
all of them going outside an ice facility to protest
what they saw is inhumane treatment. It was comical, it
was absurd, And then We saw ice agents shoot pepper
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balls at these people dressed as cartoon characters. And for me,
that's what America feels like right now. It's this absurdity,
it's this violence. It's two different worlds clashing into one another.
And so that's why we go out and do these
field pieces. That's why we go into these specials. Is
it's one thing to sit behind a desk and talk
about what you see on camera. It's the other thing
(07:01):
to get out there and and and see it up close.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
How do you measure the success of your pieces that
you do? Because it's it's comedy, but there's also like
a deeper conversation that you want to start, Like, I
know you want to in me for your last one.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
So is it okay?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Got congratulation, thank you, thank you, Emmy wise I I
had a couple at home.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
That's pretty nice. Pretty nice. Yeah, And even with all
of that, I'm still so nervous about what I wear.
You know exactly that you can't you can't get you.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
You got me, you think so, but you still care.
I measure success with clicks. That's all that matters. Just clicks.
Who is watching? How many clicks? Yeah, I'm healthy. I'm
a supportive snort.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
I wish I didn't look at it, and I can't say.
I mean, you know what, there's truth in that comedy.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I'd like to know. I I what I tried.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Our intention in this is to find we're comedians in
this crazy, strange world.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I came up and improv comedy.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Guy, a comedy dude who suddenly thrust on the Daily Show,
and I love it, and then the world sort of explodes.
And our job is to find comedy in these chaotic times.
And I think using comedy as a way to add
context to a moment, and for people who aren't necessarily
paying attention and watching Comedy Central at eleven o'clock, who
might not be interested in politics suddenly to be paying
attention to the Nobel Peace Prize race and what's happening
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in Portland. Like that's that's our intention. It's like engage
in that conversation. I'm then late at night, when I
feel good about my intentions and what I've done, I
go on YouTube and I see how many people have
watched it, and if it's not enough, and I compare
to what else is out there that I feel bad
about myself, and then I talk to my agent and
they're like, well, your contract's gonna be dependent on how
successful the show is. And then you watch CNN and
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it talks about what's happening in the late night sphere,
and then you worry about eyeballs and the attention economy,
and suddenly you have a breakdown when you come on
a show like this and you're wearing something that's not
exactly I'm just I can't get out of it, you know,
I can't get my head outside of it.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
We got more with Jordan Klipa when we come back.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Is the breakfast club?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Every day?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Some new people with my right now, but life still
lick ring down the streak, half a million dollars, Whip
five ms for the kid's ice, like this, everything I
want to hit, I've crossed them off.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
The list asks about me, word around the town. I'm
a pillow. I won't get my heart. I'm putting it
at I'm not a sell. They go gee, I'm hip
park the back.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
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catching lamb. Drick Gameween and like this, oh you know
that rap comes to the rack, no cake, I forgot
the rack back man, my party stack will lick all
blue like Flackjacks that it's a tougher let my knapsack.
I don't back check my track wreck out of us.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
We clapped back eighteen.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I was the seven figures after text top flat ticket
on book stop wiping. That was facts, don't put it,
don't believe the hype up put my life on west.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Man, Everybody EJ n V Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, the guy.
We are to Breakfast Club, lawng the Roses here as well.
We're still kicking with comedian Jordan Klepper.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Charlamagne. This is the only way to make special special?
Is this the only way to make special special? For me?
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yes, there's something improvisational about it. Uh. We we knew
we were gonna do a special three months ago, and
the stuff that we do is current, you know, we
were we were editing it up until yesterday. We were
filming up until like a week ago. And for me,
I've done specials that take a year. I've worked in
the stand up world, and you craft something over the
(10:48):
course of years to put that special out for the
Daily Show. For fingers the pulse. What we do is
we're like, what's the conversation right now? How do we
make a larger argument about that conversation, and how do
we keep but evolving up until the moment it goes out.
So for me that that retains the improv spirit of
keeping it, keeping it in the moment.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I always wanted, when you go out and you're talking
to these people, how does your wife feel like?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I know, what's a lot of nervous, but how is
it on her?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
She she gets a little stressed when we go into
some hairy situations, Like you know, she knows me, I
trust me. When I bring that argumentative stance back home,
she is not as excited. Like it's one thing to
see the guy who goes out there and argues about
politics on the road trying to find hypiocracy, But to
bring that guy home and in the house is a
(11:38):
tough thing for a wife and a loved one.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So I feel for her in that position.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
As of the last few years, though she is earnestly
worried about what happens out there.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You know, it's crazy. People are crazy.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
And I started going out there with no security, and
now I go out there with four security guards, and
there are threats that take place on the show on
the family, and again when the camera's off, when you're
talking to people face to face, people are lovely. People
are not as bold and emboldened as they are online.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But when you.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Step back from that, there's hate, there's anger out there,
and she fears for that. You know, we think about that,
and I think this last six months, with some of
the violent activities that we've all seen, like Late Night,
chose people who are public, forward facing and have to
sort of reevaluate what that looks like. And it's it's real,
and it's it's scary, and you try not to think
(12:32):
too much about it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
What was the incident that made you get for security guards?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Because you just don't go from having nobody to all
of a sudden four something had to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It was I was.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I think the big moment for us was right before
Trump's when Trump lost his re election campaign in twenty twenty,
and to stop the steal campaign, he had a giant
event in the Capitol and there were fifty thousand people
there and I would interacting with people and the Trump
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crew had gone from being in power and successful to
having lost an election, something they couldn't accept at the time,
and so they were angry, and I think there was
a shift from like, oh, this is playful. We don't
like the media, but we will be playful with them.
Suddenly I was pushing somebody in an interview and it
was getting a little bit contentious, and the people around it,
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who had nothing to do, eyed on that started to
create two to three to ten to fifteen to thirty people,
and it became a mob of angry people, and security
had to extricate me from the situation and run out,
throw me in a van kind of a situation, and.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
They chase me.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
They chased me, And it's that mob mentality that you
saw a month and a half later at January sixth,
where it is a bunch of people with nothing to do,
emboldened by a president who told him the europe Patriot
and that the media is the enemy of all people,
and they see that and literally, I don't think a
lot of the people who chased me had that intention.
But a minute and a half earlier, bored people walking
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around and boldened by a president see something that they
can do and their brain turns off and they just
they just chase, and so when we encountered with that,
it was like, all right, we have to be prepared
for this. And quite frankly, when we go to rallies
and events, now we have to be tactical about where
we are because we're a space where we can't get
out of and that mob again, you do it close
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to the car. Now, now I do it close to
the car.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
We'll the car.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
And you know what, I'm gonna amend my comment about people.
I think person person is easy. People is tough, and
that's that was the case on the road. I can
talk one on one to that person. When they become people,
they start to lose accountability and that's what you can't rationalize.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
With like group think. Group think all the way. You
have to think about keeping like a MAGA hat in
your back pocket. Just going on, Yes, I.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Will say our producers have uh specific colored hats and
apparel to wear so that we blend in really yeah
for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Like red hat? Do you mean not the mag just hat?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Our producer Ian Berger wears a red hockey hat from
some some minor league hockey team in Canada. It's got
it's a red hat with like a mustang on it
that looks like looks like it's part of the team,
because that's what it's tribalism out there, right you walk
out there, if you're wearing the red, you're wearing that
you're on the team and people there are not.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Do you feel like it's worth it?
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Like what you do when putting yourself kind of like
in the mix of these people who could have that
mentality and having a beef up security.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And I do.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I I love engaging with people and I do. For me,
what is most effective or interesting about what I do
is when like I feel like I'm stressed testing propaganda
the stuff that you hear being fed to people on
all these uh on all these news shows, like where
does it? Where does it actually land with the American public?
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And if I can go out there and I can
find that hypocrisy, if I can, like it's it's most
revealing moments I'm having a conversation with somebody on the
road who has not had a conversation and thought through
their point of view until this very moment, Like we
all just accept these points of view, these opinions, these
certainties that are fed us without like friends and cohorts
(16:14):
who push you on it. Like we're in these bubbles.
A lot of the people I talk to are in
media bubbles. They're in friend bubbles, they're in Facebook bubbles.
And when I come out here and I ask you,
why do you think that thing? They haven't thought through it,
And in that moment they have to articulate that my
job is to find comedy in it, some context in it,
but hopefully there's a little moment of revelation where you
see that person be that person again and you see
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the BS and so so. Yeah, for me, with that
and a little bit of health insurance, it feels like
it's worth it.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
So for you, at what point does comedy stop being
funny and start becoming like a public service.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And start being a public service? That's a great question.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
I mean, you know, with The Daily Show, like John
always talks, we are a comedy show.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That is our bias.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
And I think that's what is compelling about people when
they watch a show like that, they know are biased.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
All these shows have biased.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
The Daily Show has a bias towards comedy, calling out
the BS where they see it. So we're always approaching
it from that. And also, I am not a journalist.
I rely on the work of good journalists to tell
these stories to get good information, and that we want
to keep that cleared, and I don't want to get
over my skis in doing that.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And in some of these.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Situations, comedy has very little space to be and maybe
shouldn't be there. So for us, again with this special,
we wanted to go to Portland, we wanted to go
to Chicago because I've seen images of what's happening with
ice raids and they're heartbreaking and they're terrifying. And when
you have a microphone and a camera, you're like, how
do I point it at these things I think are
really important to talk about? But also what me going
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in there making jokes? When is that helping a situation?
When is that becoming more activist and more comedian? And
how do I like take what I want to say
but still add the thing that I can do, which
is comedy. Quite literally, for this special, there was a
naked bike ride and so for us, we're like, all right,
here's a comedic take on what is happening in this
chaotic space, So let's use that.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So we can tell a story.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Because at that point, if I'm just getting out there
and just becoming an activist on television trying to tell
you what I think like, I don't serve a purpose.
I'm not speaking the language that I'm most fluent in,
and I'm not being effected to an audience space who
who who understands I'm going after comedy and BS.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So I try to keep that as my north star.
So the naked bike rind was like nakid.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
It was naked naked. They were all there, My friend,
they were all there. We thought nobody would show up.
Ten minutes beforehand. There's like one or two naked dudes
there all out. By the end there were hundreds getting
on bikes on cold, cold Portland day hoping.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
On the A lot of shrinkage. There's a lot of shrinkage.
I gotta tell you, I you stop riding bikes too soon.
You did. Would would you have gone, Nathan for the cost?
But for the costs you would have gone?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
And I don't want to be behind anybody that rid
vike a little weird and see an asshole.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
It is not my favor.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
It's what's interesting is it's shocking for the first twenty minutes,
but when you're around two hundred naked people for an
hour or so.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You get comfy.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
You too, I stripped down to an uncomfortable degree, got
on a bike, rode that bike.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Does my asshert Yes? But I mostly think I mean
the ass doesn't feel good. The ego feels poor. No, no,
because the seat is hard.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
This seat's very hard, right, but usually if you have
closed it's more padding.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So if there's no padding, this.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Is right up your You're thinking more about what's happening
up front, though you're worried about that.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
How it's being.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Preecause you got you gotta put it on the left
fot the right side.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Of the seat.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
You choose, You choose, although if it's I'm talking about
the the I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
About a little bit of everything.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Although here's that is a benefit of the cold is
you don't necessarily have to choose if it's cold enough,
o you. There's a recession that takes place with everything,
which makes choice irrelevant.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You have a small penis, is what I'm saying. At
this point. We don't Okay, you got it, We don't
a picture. Stereotypes aren't true. Okay, this is good to hell,
let's do alright.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
We got more with comedian Jordan Klepper. When we come back,
it's the Breakfast Club the morning, thank me.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
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Speaker 2 (20:58):
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Speaker 3 (20:59):
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Speaker 8 (21:06):
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Speaker 2 (21:07):
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Speaker 3 (21:16):
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Speaker 4 (21:27):
Charlemagne, do you feel like Donald Trump? Overlooks the Daily Show.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yes, yeah, I wonder why, Thank God, thank you. I
don't think he has cable. I think that man.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I think that man, that man, he's got NBC. He
still watches the channels he watched thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
He watches Fox. He definitely watches Fox.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
But I don't think he's He's like the grandparents who's
got those few channels, knows how to get through those
few channels and doesn't know how to get to the
other channels. And so, thank the Lord, he's not paying
attention to the Daily Show.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
He's got his own fish to fry.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I wonder though, with his influence that he clearly had
that paramount. Well he you know, maybe flex's muscle behind us.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
I just don't want him to pay any attention to us. Well,
there's different rules with the FCC and cable TV, and
so I think that may play into it as well.
But that man fixes his eyes on the stuff that's
right in front of him at all times. And it's
pretty clear the things that he watches and gets angry about.
So so as I promote this, I pray to God
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he's not listening to the Breakfast Club because.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Again, oh no, he lists.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I know he's not been super happy with Charlotte, but
that's because I was on Laura Trump's show.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
That's what it was, right, Yes, yes, yes, did you
did you get blowback from the MAGA circle?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Did you have any interaction with people? Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
You know what's so interesting when I did that conversation
with Laura Trump and my business partner said this to me.
He was like, there's a lot of people that are
agreeing with the thing that you're saying. I'm I'm not
on there talking right or left, or even black or white.
I'm just talking about affordability in keeping people safe in
this country.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And I don't feel like he's doing a good job
with that right now.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
It's a simple conversation. We often connect over the economy.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's it's amazing to see
like Zorin in the Oval office and how like, yeah,
the economy and affordability that that speaks to the right.
If people can get on those spaces and talk about that,
I think there's an effective lane for a lot of
those Fox viewers or what have you, are in that
bubble to be like, oh no, this is a conversation
that's happening in across party lines.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, I like, I love people like you joined because
you actually be out in the field talking to people.
When you're out in the field from your vantage point.
Does America feel more divided? Are are just more recorded?
Can I say both? We are more divided. We are
one hundred percent more divided. We are pushed to that space.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
But like I said, it's the recording of the divisiveness
that that takes away our autonomy of thoughts. I think
you can break through people, but people are angry. And
there are less people who are excited about the MAGA
machine than there ever were beforehand. There were less people
excited about the democratic machine than there ever were beforehand.
I think that's what happened in this last election. And
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so you go out there now and yeah, people are
People are pissed off, They're angry, and they're more certain
than they've ever been because there's recording devices on them.
But there's still a glimmer of hope of like they
want to talk about affordability. I went to Mississippi and
I talked to a bunch of MAGA supporters. What was
curious is they're all afraid of places like Portland and
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Chicago because of what the magosphere has told them about
these big cities.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Afraid of all big cities.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
And the older people were afraid of Antifa because that's
the narrative that Trump pushes. The younger people every time
I ask them about things like Antifa, no interest, didn't
care and realized in that moment, You're like, oh, some
of these narratives that are being ginned up to be
divisive and push people apart.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
The boogeyman, the Antifa boogeyman.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
The old people buy in hook line and Sneaker, and
they love it, and they're afraid, and they're changing the
way they think because that the young people are too
smart for that, and they don't they they're not as
deep in as some of these other folks who are
are in it to win it. And so I see
those moments I have, I have optimism. We're like, oh,
these kids, these kids are easily swaying, but are not
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but are not. I haven't been watching the show for
twenty years. Like like the old folks who are making
some of these decisions, this younger generation is just tuning in.
They're not buying some of these these boogeymen. That the
Trump administration is putting out and there's there is a
space to have conversation with those folks about things that
they care about. Maybe we see that in the midterms,
Maybe we see that in the next year. But not
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everybody's completely all in on that Trump train.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So that's that's a great point.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
What's scarier to you people who believe these wild conspiracy theories?
Speaker 5 (25:43):
That are people who knowingly weaponized with the people who
knowingly weaponize them.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I think it's the people who wield it.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I think that's where there's like no moral core where
you know you it's one thing to be afraid of
stuff and then out of self preservation, which, hey, that's
that's how most of us move through life. What is
the next thing I need to do to pay my rent,
to have health insurance for my kids, to keep food
on the table.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
What do I need to do?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Is there a way I can believe the things I
need to believe to sustain that. I get that, I
empathize with that. That makes you human. It's the people
who know better. Those are the folks that are real
scary here. And I wish our elected officials would stand
up and be the people who know better, but you know,
I've been around long enough not to have that faith
in those institutions anymore. Yeah, you hope a little bit
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some of that morality we always talked about in schools
and the Declaration of Independence talks about. You hope that
sort of makes its way back into political discourse again.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, that's a pretty good one, I gotta tell you.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
And hearing all this religious talk on the right too,
it's like, yeah, there's a lot of good ideals there
that you wish we believed in, and I think a
lot of people do. There's just more focus on putting
food on the table to actually engage in that larger conversation.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So what gives you hope about it? Erica? Right now?
You want me to find hope and all of this.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
You know what what gives me hope about America is
a naked guy protesting out front of an ice facility,
Like you're wondering if people have tuned out apathy. That's
what That's what the right, that's what the far right was.
They want apathy. They don't want you to care if
you show up with your balls out. It's out in
a rainy Portland day to like go outside of an
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ice facility and be like, I don't want them to
use my image to be painted as a bad guy,
so much so that I'm willing to be naked in
front of all these folks to look like a fool
because I think what's happening inside is inhumane.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Like that that is helpful to me, let's say literally.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Ladies and gentlemen, Definitely check out the special and next
Monday on Comedy Central, and thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Thanks did he make you as Lauren Hey? The Breakfast
Cling
It's jet out the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Morning.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Everybody is KJA MV Jesse hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We
are to breakfast club loan rules and see it as well.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We got a.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Special guest in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yes, indeed we have a comedian, Jordan's Clepper. Welcome. I'm
feeling good. How you guys doing He's doing well, doing well.
You always keep the project. Last time you was here
with your last field teach right with time, it's we're
not fuel peace. You got a whole documentary documentary. Yeah,
now you're here for.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Your special Jordan clipper fingers. The polls give demand a prize.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Let me tell you it's nothing about projects. You how
hard it is to keep health insurance in this country.
You have to keep working constantly and contractually. I'm obligated
to go out in the field and do special after
special after special.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
So that could make you sick. So you go need
all that healthcare. I need that healthcare. Trust me.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I'm getting old too. I got bad feats, I got
weird shoulders. I wake up now my hip doesn't work.
So yeah, I need to keep I need to keep
out there talking to people about politics.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Are you really a people person. Do you like the people?
Do I like the people? I know? Not not like
the people? Do you like the people? I call it
people in you're using that as a verb. Yes, Do
I like to people? I do. I feel comfortable peopling.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I think it's my Midwest nice that that makes me
like jump into spaces, try to find commonality. I've met
a lot of people, though, I definitely have I have
a love hate relationship with people as a general idea.
I've seen they're good, I've seen they're bad. There's a
lot of them live somewhere in the middle. But I
like getting getting to know them a little bit. I'll
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tell you people off camera are so interesting to me,
and those are the people that I like the most.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You know, I go into these Mogel worlds.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I go into these these strange spaces, and the camera
shifts the way in which everybody talks about stuff, makes
them more certain, makes them more argumentative, makes them versions
of themselves that they see online. And then that camera
goes off and they got they got music interests, they
got wives they have had issues with, they have food interests,
they have peccadillos that you just sort of gravitate towards
(02:01):
so people without a camera on their face, those people,
those are the best people.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
What about when you walk in a room and the
camera's not on and somebody says, make me laugh.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yes, well you're just a gesture. You know what. Sometimes
that happens.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Sometimes you want to come on the breakfast club, you
want to have a nice conversation, and then you walk.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Into a room and I say, you make me laugh.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The bar is set. Yeah, you get nervous.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Because he said, do I look good?
Speaker 7 (02:22):
And I was like, you look great, just make us
laughing because I thought, as a comedian, when you're making
people laugh, it makes you feel good. I wanted you
to feel comfortable and welcome. You did, yes and happy.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well, here's the problem.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
As a comedian, you complimenting the way I look made
me feel uncomfortable because my expectation. My expectation is I look,
I look strange, I'm ill fitting clothes. I think that's
how I see myself. So you set me off my
game by making me feel good about myself.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's on you.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
I'm sorry if you look if you want me to
walk it?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
What's wrong? Talk about the fit? Where did I go wrong?
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Really?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Really do that.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
No, you don't have to know this is it's a
new jacket, is it okay?
Speaker 6 (02:57):
I like the jacket. I just wouldn't have put it
with that shirt.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
There it is. She's wearing a full leather onesie and.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
You're going to I just don't know what jacket though.
And I thought the hair was a good compliment to
the jacket. But but if you want me to talk bad,
I just I felt you could want with a lighter shirt.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Lighter shirt. Thermal. It is a thermal because it's cold.
It is cold, but it's texture. There's a texture on texture.
You don't like that.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
The texture is just very different to wear a white
T shirt. I mean, do you do a unique well,
I see I know your friends. Yeah, they have really
great T shirts that you could have put the thermal under,
put the white T shirt and it would have with
the sneakers. I looked at your shoes when you talked
about your feet, and I just thought, why are you
doing it?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Me to do it?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I respect it, I respect it, I need it's just
the part of people that you like right on the
line right now. I gotta tell you this. You know
I do specials. I do specials because I get health insurance.
I do publicity so I get fashion tips.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I can't pay for a publicist. You're helping me here.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Do you feel comfortable? You told me to do it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You know I like it. I respect that.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Now you don't want a graphic t you're saying a
plain tea is the way to gothing like this?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Yeah, I think a plan would have been wrote too.
Like you seem like effortless.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Oh that's what you're getting out of this.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yeah, good thing.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I'll take effortless. She said, you see efforless, but you
actually tried this morning. I'm trying.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
There was so much effort put into this moment. Here,
you can see it. It's bled into the interview last night.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I can tell you did it last night.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I'm gonna kill with this, like put it in school.
Do you know I ironed this corduroy jackets? Damn, I don't
even know if you was supposed to iron a corduroy jacket.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Jesus show, that's up the jacket. This is good. This
is good intel. I didn't know you. Yeah, you steam
corduroy instead of ironing corduroys. This is helpful. I had
a towel over in the steam through the tower. You
can do that too.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Did you put the tower?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I did not put the towel doves?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
But you know Jordan's real comedian because soon Laurence said,
make me laugh, and Jordan was like, type five.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I got it, airline food, I got I got thoughts
on that. Let's got it.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
No special type of fingers the poles.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Give the man a prize.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Fingers the pole sounds crazy, but let's talking about his name.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Have you met Figers of the balls that gout? Oh boy,
it's a bit handsy. Okay, stay away, all right, he's
got a rap sheet. Don't look into him, don't google
the guy.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Are you messed with Macca people? Aget man? What's wrong
with you? You just like just you know what? I
like getting out there? See, I like getting out there.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
This one was wild because we're trying to figure out
what to do a special on and two things were
happening simultaneously, Like Trump was sending troops into cities because
he said it was World War two in Portland and Chicago,
and at the same time he wanted the Nobel Peace
Prize because he said it was the most peaceful guy
on the planet crazy. So we're like, all right, that's
that's a hypocrisy. That makes for comedy and a special.
(05:40):
So it's like, let's go after this Nobel Peace Prize
desire and let's talk to people about like what's actually
happening in these cities, which is chaotic, absolutely, And.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It's interesting because the special blend stand up with what
you do in the field. What did you want audiences
to understand about America that you couldn't capture just through
field pieces and just well, I.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Mean, I think when you look at something like this,
what piece looks like in America, what it feels like?
What is so night We went to Portland, which was
supposed to World War two, and if you're watching Fox News,
if you're watching the right wing political sphere, all you're
seeing is this is a war zone.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
This is chaos. You never want to visit.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
We went there on the Naked Bike Ride, which was
a comical experience full of people dressed as some people
who were naked, some people who were dressed as cartoon characters,
all of them going outside an ice facility to protest
what they saw is inhumane treatment. It was comical, it
was absurd, And then We saw ice agents shoot pepper
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balls at these people dressed as cartoon characters. And for me,
that's what America feels like right now. It's this absurdity,
it's this violence. It's two different worlds clashing into one another.
And so that's why we go out and do these
field pieces. That's why we go into these specials. Is
it's one thing to sit behind a desk and talk
about what you see on camera. It's the other thing
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to get out there and and and see it up close.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
How do you measure the success of your pieces that
you do? Because it's it's comedy, but there's also like
a deeper conversation that you want to start, Like, I
know you want to in me for your last one.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
So is it okay?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Got congratulation, thank you, thank you, Emmy wise I I
had a couple at home.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
That's pretty nice. Pretty nice. Yeah, And even with all
of that, I'm still so nervous about what I wear.
You know exactly that you can't you can't get you.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
You got me, you think so, but you still care.
I measure success with clicks. That's all that matters. Just clicks.
Who is watching? How many clicks? Yeah, I'm healthy. I'm
a supportive snort.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
I wish I didn't look at it, and I can't say.
I mean, you know what, there's truth in that comedy.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I'd like to know. I I what I tried.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Our intention in this is to find we're comedians in
this crazy, strange world.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I came up and improv comedy.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Guy, a comedy dude who suddenly thrust on the Daily Show,
and I love it, and then the world sort of explodes.
And our job is to find comedy in these chaotic times.
And I think using comedy as a way to add
context to a moment, and for people who aren't necessarily
paying attention and watching Comedy Central at eleven o'clock, who
might not be interested in politics suddenly to be paying
attention to the Nobel Peace Prize race and what's happening
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in Portland. Like that's that's our intention. It's like engage
in that conversation. I'm then late at night, when I
feel good about my intentions and what I've done, I
go on YouTube and I see how many people have
watched it, and if it's not enough, and I compare
to what else is out there that I feel bad
about myself, and then I talk to my agent and
they're like, well, your contract's gonna be dependent on how
successful the show is. And then you watch CNN and
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it talks about what's happening in the late night sphere,
and then you worry about eyeballs and the attention economy,
and suddenly you have a breakdown when you come on
a show like this and you're wearing something that's not
exactly I'm just I can't get out of it, you know,
I can't get my head outside of it.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
We got more with Jordan Klipa when we come back.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Is the breakfast club?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Every day?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Some new people with my right now, but life still
lick ring down the streak, half a million dollars, Whip
five ms for the kid's ice, like this, everything I
want to hit, I've crossed them off.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
The list asks about me, word around the town. I'm
a pillow. I won't get my heart. I'm putting it
at I'm not a sell. They go gee, I'm hip
park the back.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
The Lamb and then go g l E, I'm tripped
catching lamb. Drick Gameween and like this, oh you know
that rap comes to the rack, no cake, I forgot
the rack back man, my party stack will lick all
blue like Flackjacks that it's a tougher let my knapsack.
I don't back check my track wreck out of us.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
We clapped back eighteen.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I was the seven figures after text top flat ticket
on book stop wiping. That was facts, don't put it,
don't believe the hype up put my life on west.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Man, Everybody EJ n V Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, the guy.
We are to Breakfast Club, lawng the Roses here as well.
We're still kicking with comedian Jordan Klepper.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Charlamagne. This is the only way to make special special?
Is this the only way to make special special? For me?
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yes, there's something improvisational about it. Uh. We we knew
we were gonna do a special three months ago, and
the stuff that we do is current, you know, we
were we were editing it up until yesterday. We were
filming up until like a week ago. And for me,
I've done specials that take a year. I've worked in
the stand up world, and you craft something over the
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course of years to put that special out for the
Daily Show. For fingers the pulse. What we do is
we're like, what's the conversation right now? How do we
make a larger argument about that conversation, and how do
we keep but evolving up until the moment it goes out.
So for me that that retains the improv spirit of
keeping it, keeping it in the moment.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I always wanted, when you go out and you're talking
to these people, how does your wife feel like?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I know, what's a lot of nervous, but how is
it on her?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
She she gets a little stressed when we go into
some hairy situations, Like you know, she knows me, I
trust me. When I bring that argumentative stance back home,
she is not as excited. Like it's one thing to
see the guy who goes out there and argues about
politics on the road trying to find hypiocracy, But to
bring that guy home and in the house is a
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tough thing for a wife and a loved one.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So I feel for her in that position.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
As of the last few years, though she is earnestly
worried about what happens out there.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You know, it's crazy. People are crazy.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
And I started going out there with no security, and
now I go out there with four security guards, and
there are threats that take place on the show on
the family, and again when the camera's off, when you're
talking to people face to face, people are lovely. People
are not as bold and emboldened as they are online.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But when you.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Step back from that, there's hate, there's anger out there,
and she fears for that. You know, we think about that,
and I think this last six months, with some of
the violent activities that we've all seen, like Late Night,
chose people who are public, forward facing and have to
sort of reevaluate what that looks like. And it's it's real,
and it's it's scary, and you try not to think
(12:32):
too much about it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
What was the incident that made you get for security guards?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Because you just don't go from having nobody to all
of a sudden four something had to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It was I was.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I think the big moment for us was right before
Trump's when Trump lost his re election campaign in twenty twenty,
and to stop the steal campaign, he had a giant
event in the Capitol and there were fifty thousand people
there and I would interacting with people and the Trump
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crew had gone from being in power and successful to
having lost an election, something they couldn't accept at the time,
and so they were angry, and I think there was
a shift from like, oh, this is playful. We don't
like the media, but we will be playful with them.
Suddenly I was pushing somebody in an interview and it
was getting a little bit contentious, and the people around it,
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who had nothing to do, eyed on that started to
create two to three to ten to fifteen to thirty people,
and it became a mob of angry people, and security
had to extricate me from the situation and run out,
throw me in a van kind of a situation, and.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
They chase me.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
They chased me, And it's that mob mentality that you
saw a month and a half later at January sixth,
where it is a bunch of people with nothing to do,
emboldened by a president who told him the europe Patriot
and that the media is the enemy of all people,
and they see that and literally, I don't think a
lot of the people who chased me had that intention.
But a minute and a half earlier, bored people walking
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around and boldened by a president see something that they
can do and their brain turns off and they just
they just chase, and so when we encountered with that,
it was like, all right, we have to be prepared
for this. And quite frankly, when we go to rallies
and events, now we have to be tactical about where
we are because we're a space where we can't get
out of and that mob again, you do it close
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to the car. Now, now I do it close to
the car.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
We'll the car.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
And you know what, I'm gonna amend my comment about people.
I think person person is easy. People is tough, and
that's that was the case on the road. I can
talk one on one to that person. When they become people,
they start to lose accountability and that's what you can't rationalize.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
With like group think. Group think all the way. You
have to think about keeping like a MAGA hat in
your back pocket. Just going on, Yes, I.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Will say our producers have uh specific colored hats and
apparel to wear so that we blend in really yeah
for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Like red hat? Do you mean not the mag just hat?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Our producer Ian Berger wears a red hockey hat from
some some minor league hockey team in Canada. It's got
it's a red hat with like a mustang on it
that looks like looks like it's part of the team,
because that's what it's tribalism out there, right you walk
out there, if you're wearing the red, you're wearing that
you're on the team and people there are not.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Do you feel like it's worth it?
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Like what you do when putting yourself kind of like
in the mix of these people who could have that
mentality and having a beef up security.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And I do.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I I love engaging with people and I do. For me,
what is most effective or interesting about what I do
is when like I feel like I'm stressed testing propaganda
the stuff that you hear being fed to people on
all these uh on all these news shows, like where
does it? Where does it actually land with the American public?
(15:51):
And if I can go out there and I can
find that hypocrisy, if I can, like it's it's most
revealing moments I'm having a conversation with somebody on the
road who has not had a conversation and thought through
their point of view until this very moment, Like we
all just accept these points of view, these opinions, these
certainties that are fed us without like friends and cohorts
(16:14):
who push you on it. Like we're in these bubbles.
A lot of the people I talk to are in
media bubbles. They're in friend bubbles, they're in Facebook bubbles.
And when I come out here and I ask you,
why do you think that thing? They haven't thought through it,
And in that moment they have to articulate that my
job is to find comedy in it, some context in it,
but hopefully there's a little moment of revelation where you
see that person be that person again and you see
(16:36):
the BS and so so. Yeah, for me, with that
and a little bit of health insurance, it feels like
it's worth it.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
So for you, at what point does comedy stop being
funny and start becoming like a public service.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And start being a public service? That's a great question.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
I mean, you know, with The Daily Show, like John
always talks, we are a comedy show.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That is our bias.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
And I think that's what is compelling about people when
they watch a show like that, they know are biased.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
All these shows have biased.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
The Daily Show has a bias towards comedy, calling out
the BS where they see it. So we're always approaching
it from that. And also, I am not a journalist.
I rely on the work of good journalists to tell
these stories to get good information, and that we want
to keep that cleared, and I don't want to get
over my skis in doing that.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And in some of these.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Situations, comedy has very little space to be and maybe
shouldn't be there. So for us, again with this special,
we wanted to go to Portland, we wanted to go
to Chicago because I've seen images of what's happening with
ice raids and they're heartbreaking and they're terrifying. And when
you have a microphone and a camera, you're like, how
do I point it at these things I think are
really important to talk about? But also what me going
(17:45):
in there making jokes? When is that helping a situation?
When is that becoming more activist and more comedian? And
how do I like take what I want to say
but still add the thing that I can do, which
is comedy. Quite literally, for this special, there was a
naked bike ride and so for us, we're like, all right,
here's a comedic take on what is happening in this
chaotic space, So let's use that.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So we can tell a story.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Because at that point, if I'm just getting out there
and just becoming an activist on television trying to tell
you what I think like, I don't serve a purpose.
I'm not speaking the language that I'm most fluent in,
and I'm not being effected to an audience space who
who who understands I'm going after comedy and BS.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So I try to keep that as my north star.
So the naked bike rind was like nakid.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
It was naked naked. They were all there, My friend,
they were all there. We thought nobody would show up.
Ten minutes beforehand. There's like one or two naked dudes
there all out. By the end there were hundreds getting
on bikes on cold, cold Portland day hoping.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
On the A lot of shrinkage. There's a lot of shrinkage.
I gotta tell you, I you stop riding bikes too soon.
You did. Would would you have gone, Nathan for the cost?
But for the costs you would have gone?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
And I don't want to be behind anybody that rid
vike a little weird and see an asshole.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
It is not my favor.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
It's what's interesting is it's shocking for the first twenty minutes,
but when you're around two hundred naked people for an
hour or so.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You get comfy.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
You too, I stripped down to an uncomfortable degree, got
on a bike, rode that bike.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Does my asshert Yes? But I mostly think I mean
the ass doesn't feel good. The ego feels poor. No, no,
because the seat is hard.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
This seat's very hard, right, but usually if you have
closed it's more padding.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So if there's no padding, this.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Is right up your You're thinking more about what's happening
up front, though you're worried about that.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
How it's being.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Preecause you got you gotta put it on the left
fot the right side.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Of the seat.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
You choose, You choose, although if it's I'm talking about
the the I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
About a little bit of everything.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Although here's that is a benefit of the cold is
you don't necessarily have to choose if it's cold enough,
o you. There's a recession that takes place with everything,
which makes choice irrelevant.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You have a small penis, is what I'm saying. At
this point. We don't Okay, you got it, We don't
a picture. Stereotypes aren't true. Okay, this is good to hell,
let's do alright.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
We got more with comedian Jordan Klepper. When we come back,
it's the Breakfast Club the morning, thank me.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Don't know that I missed you. I want to wake you,
but I cannot. Baby, accounting that they justssed you, don't
even know I'm missed you. I'm just wanting to.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Kiss you, but I can't right now.
Speaker 8 (20:25):
So baby, just guse me doing the phone.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
See, baby, I know that you like me. You're my
future wife.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I was a boy telling them you can be my bun.
I can be your play you can be my wife.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Takes me count me.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
I need you in my life.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, how old dad? Every day I need your time.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
I see y'all, my tellers get tea.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
But I missed you.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I mean, I really wanted to kiss you, but I can't.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
I know doubt I'm missed you.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I want to get with you, but I cannot.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Baby, kill the issue. You don't I'm kissed you. I
just want to kiss you.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I can't, No, baby want Everybody is j V Jess
Hilaris Charlemagne the guy we are to Breakfast Club along
the Roses here as well, we're still kicking him with
comedian Jordan Klepper.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Charlemagne, do you feel like Donald Trump? Overlooks the Daily Show.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yes, yeah, I wonder why, Thank God, thank you. I
don't think he has cable. I think that man.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I think that man, that man, he's got NBC. He
still watches the channels he watched thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
He watches Fox. He definitely watches Fox.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
But I don't think he's He's like the grandparents who's
got those few channels, knows how to get through those
few channels and doesn't know how to get to the
other channels. And so, thank the Lord, he's not paying
attention to the Daily Show.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
He's got his own fish to fry.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I wonder though, with his influence that he clearly had
that paramount. Well he you know, maybe flex's muscle behind us.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
I just don't want him to pay any attention to us. Well,
there's different rules with the FCC and cable TV, and
so I think that may play into it as well.
But that man fixes his eyes on the stuff that's
right in front of him at all times. And it's
pretty clear the things that he watches and gets angry about.
So so as I promote this, I pray to God
(22:29):
he's not listening to the Breakfast Club because.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Again, oh no, he lists.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I know he's not been super happy with Charlotte, but
that's because I was on Laura Trump's show.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
That's what it was, right, Yes, yes, yes, did you
did you get blowback from the MAGA circle?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Did you have any interaction with people? Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
You know what's so interesting when I did that conversation
with Laura Trump and my business partner said this to me.
He was like, there's a lot of people that are
agreeing with the thing that you're saying. I'm I'm not
on there talking right or left, or even black or white.
I'm just talking about affordability in keeping people safe in
this country.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And I don't feel like he's doing a good job
with that right now.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
It's a simple conversation. We often connect over the economy.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's it's amazing to see
like Zorin in the Oval office and how like, yeah,
the economy and affordability that that speaks to the right.
If people can get on those spaces and talk about that,
I think there's an effective lane for a lot of
those Fox viewers or what have you, are in that
bubble to be like, oh no, this is a conversation
that's happening in across party lines.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, I like, I love people like you joined because
you actually be out in the field talking to people.
When you're out in the field from your vantage point.
Does America feel more divided? Are are just more recorded?
Can I say both? We are more divided. We are
one hundred percent more divided. We are pushed to that space.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
But like I said, it's the recording of the divisiveness
that that takes away our autonomy of thoughts. I think
you can break through people, but people are angry. And
there are less people who are excited about the MAGA
machine than there ever were beforehand. There were less people
excited about the democratic machine than there ever were beforehand.
I think that's what happened in this last election. And
(24:10):
so you go out there now and yeah, people are
People are pissed off, They're angry, and they're more certain
than they've ever been because there's recording devices on them.
But there's still a glimmer of hope of like they
want to talk about affordability. I went to Mississippi and
I talked to a bunch of MAGA supporters. What was
curious is they're all afraid of places like Portland and
(24:30):
Chicago because of what the magosphere has told them about
these big cities.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Afraid of all big cities.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
And the older people were afraid of Antifa because that's
the narrative that Trump pushes. The younger people every time
I ask them about things like Antifa, no interest, didn't
care and realized in that moment, You're like, oh, some
of these narratives that are being ginned up to be
divisive and push people apart.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
The boogeyman, the Antifa boogeyman.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
The old people buy in hook line and Sneaker, and
they love it, and they're afraid, and they're changing the
way they think because that the young people are too
smart for that, and they don't they they're not as
deep in as some of these other folks who are
are in it to win it. And so I see
those moments I have, I have optimism. We're like, oh,
these kids, these kids are easily swaying, but are not
(25:15):
but are not. I haven't been watching the show for
twenty years. Like like the old folks who are making
some of these decisions, this younger generation is just tuning in.
They're not buying some of these these boogeymen. That the
Trump administration is putting out and there's there is a
space to have conversation with those folks about things that
they care about. Maybe we see that in the midterms,
Maybe we see that in the next year. But not
(25:35):
everybody's completely all in on that Trump train.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So that's that's a great point.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
What's scarier to you people who believe these wild conspiracy theories?
Speaker 5 (25:43):
That are people who knowingly weaponized with the people who
knowingly weaponize them.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I think it's the people who wield it.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I think that's where there's like no moral core where
you know you it's one thing to be afraid of
stuff and then out of self preservation, which, hey, that's
that's how most of us move through life. What is
the next thing I need to do to pay my rent,
to have health insurance for my kids, to keep food
on the table.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
What do I need to do?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Is there a way I can believe the things I
need to believe to sustain that. I get that, I
empathize with that. That makes you human. It's the people
who know better. Those are the folks that are real
scary here. And I wish our elected officials would stand
up and be the people who know better, but you know,
I've been around long enough not to have that faith
in those institutions anymore. Yeah, you hope a little bit
(26:33):
some of that morality we always talked about in schools
and the Declaration of Independence talks about. You hope that
sort of makes its way back into political discourse again.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, that's a pretty good one, I gotta tell you.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
And hearing all this religious talk on the right too,
it's like, yeah, there's a lot of good ideals there
that you wish we believed in, and I think a
lot of people do. There's just more focus on putting
food on the table to actually engage in that larger conversation.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So what gives you hope about it? Erica? Right now?
You want me to find hope and all of this.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
You know what what gives me hope about America is
a naked guy protesting out front of an ice facility,
Like you're wondering if people have tuned out apathy. That's
what That's what the right, that's what the far right was.
They want apathy. They don't want you to care if
you show up with your balls out. It's out in
a rainy Portland day to like go outside of an
(27:24):
ice facility and be like, I don't want them to
use my image to be painted as a bad guy,
so much so that I'm willing to be naked in
front of all these folks to look like a fool
because I think what's happening inside is inhumane.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Like that that is helpful to me, let's say literally.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Ladies and gentlemen, Definitely check out the special and next
Monday on Comedy Central, and thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Thanks did he make you as Lauren Hey? The Breakfast
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