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Segment, we're joined by doctor Robert Mililo, world renowned expert
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Sam's Today's Hydration with Heart segment is brought to you
by Once Upon a Coconut, and it's a homage to
the women who have built modern media, the storytellers who
weren't just behind the camera but shaping what America saw
and felt. My guest today is one of those visionaries.
Amy Rosenbloom, founder of Wanna Be on TV. She's an

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Emmy award winning producer, an executive, and media trailblazer whose
fingerprints are on some of the most defining moments in
daytime television, from CBS News and The Joan Rivers Show
to Maury and NBC's Today Show. Amy's career bridges every era,
from analog broadcast to broadband streaming, and as we trace

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the evolution of media through her lens, We're gonna explore
what's been gained, what's been lost, and what it takes
to remain relevant when the entire world becomes the audience.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Welcome to the show. Thank you so much so, Amy,
you began.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
When producing the broadcast, the landscape was in its prime
back in nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Back in the Stone Age, we were like hitting rocks, right.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
There were just three major networks.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
There was ABC, CBS and NBC and the average viewer
watched over seven hours of TV per day. Now, every
minute of programming was in fact deliberate, you know, this
edited on tape time to the second and really consumed collectively.
There was no skip button, no algorithm, just appointment television.
So what was it like producing in that world and

(06:37):
what unique challenges do you face as one of the
few women in the control room.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Okay, well, first of all, I started, I think like
eighty one. I started a Good Morning America, and then
my on air talent, Pat Collins, who was the arts
and entertainment editor, got fired. So I quit, which is
like at twenty one years old, you know, I'm going
to be loyal. And the executive producers said, come work
with me. I'm starting a new show called CBS This
Morning with Diane Sawyer. So I went there and I

(07:03):
spent seven years in live television broadcast and became a
full producer at CBS News. And it was also very hard.
They called me a video kitten at CBS. That's when
I first realized about women. Like I didn't get it
that it was going to be like that. It was
like I sat in a newsroom with men who were
smoking pipes and cigars and I was all of like
twenty two, twenty three years old, and I was a

(07:24):
booker and these men were like hardcore CBS people CBS
News when it was like really like the Tiffany Station,
and I was a booker, which I thought was like
so exciting, But I was the only female that sat
at the table, a big long table with a bunch
of men, and the people there like didn't want things
to change.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
It's very much an old boys club.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Yes it was, it always was. I was minimized. I
was like this young girl, like one guy who was
like executive and executive that once said hey, you got
nice legs for a midget, because I'm like five to one,
and I mean, no one could get away with that now.
And so I was sent to Germany to work on
the hostage crisis, and like I said, I used my

(08:07):
like inner feelings, and like I said, I'm telling you,
they're not gonna come to the Hilton at Frankfurt Airport.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
I think the.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Hostage families are gonna come to this very expensive hotel,
which is right where the army base was that we
were coming out of in Viisbat. So I went over
to this very expensive hotel and I walked in and
I said, no, man will do this. I'm a pr
I'm a PR agent with like twa and I just
need to know the hostage families are coming here, right,
And the woman said, yes, you know, it was the

(08:33):
old days where like you just could get away with
much more. So I left notes underneath each one of
the doors, and I said, so they're definitely coming here.
They're not going to the Frankfort Airport. No, it's like
all the men that were in charge, and I said,
listen to me, bring the Dan Rather here, bring the
camera crews here. The hostage families are coming to this hotel,
not to the hill, not to the airport. Sure enough,
they said, if you amy are wrong, you're gonna get

(08:54):
fired and you're gonna look like a schmuck because Dan
Rather is coming there. Sure enough, Dan Rather came. They
brought the cameras and the bus rolled in like the
trails way man came in with all the families, and
it was like, okay, you know what I knew. I
just went with my femle gut instinct that I know
what I was doing. So but like what I wanted
to say was I was a video kiten. I was
constantly proving myself. I always felt like I was. People

(09:16):
could never say that I wasn't a good producer. When
I went to Joan Rivers and I worked with a female,
it was so different because look at her. I mean,
Joan was always reinventing herself. It was a fantastic experience.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Okay, I want to touch on Joan. Okay, this is
a good topic.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
So I want to build I want to build that
on the women of daytime.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
So you were part of a rare sisterhood.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Of female producers who really helped architect daytime talk. That's
without a doubt, right, and that's a format really that
if you look at it now, it's dismissed as light,
but it did drive some of the highest engagement in
TV history.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
Right.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
So at one point, shows like Sally Jesse Rafael or
the Joan River show that you're.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Referring to, they reached millions of daily viewers.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
And when you look at that in contrast, that outpaces
many primetime slots. Oh god, but let's talk about beyond ratings.
Because these shows gave a voice to women's stories. How
did you approach producing women led talk shows during a
time when female hosts were really expected to smile through
controversy and how did that era do you think redefined

(10:18):
authenticity in today's media?

Speaker 5 (10:20):
I just think that women think differently than men. I mean,
when I was, you know, at CBS News, it was
such a boys club, like pipe smoking some Mark cigar
and they called me video kitten. But when I went
to work with Joan. She like loved me from the
day we met, like we bonded, and she trust me
and she wanted me to be the executive producer. And
I said, I'm not ready. I'm like afraid, he goes Amy,
you can do it? Are you kidding me? And I
was like, I don't want to ruin the show. And

(10:41):
in retrospect, I wasn't ready to be executive producer. But
she had such faith and she saw that I had
the gut instincts of what women wanted to watch. When
I went to Sally, which was the next show, and
I executive produced Sally Jesse Raphael in the Good Old
Days for seven years. My first show when I got there,
and we didn't really talk about ratings. I mean, I
was at CBS News and it's even at John Rivers,

(11:02):
Like the show did okay, it didn't do great, But
Sally was a one hour format. I had never done
a one hour format. Yeah, and I did my first show.
It was a reunion show. You remember in the old
days when people didn't have to find relatives, and we
had one company that would find families that they hadn't
seen in you know, twenty five years and I got
back to my desk the next morning and my friend

(11:22):
Barry Posnik left me a message on my desk. Oh
my god, congratulations your show got a seven to two
with a twenty five share. And I'm like, is that good?
A twenty five share is like unheard of. Now. This
was at nine am on NBC in New York, so
I think the show was on at ten am twenty
five share over a reunion show. And it continued and

(11:43):
like every day you would like wait for the ratings
to come in, and they were crazy. I mean, if
you got under like a seven, it was a bad number.
And this is morning television and the thing so I stated,
So what happened was I ended up becoming the executive
producer at Sally and the show became more controversial, but
it really was the beginning of the real reality TV.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Now I want to move on from broadcast to broad bad.
So today the entire ecosystem MAMI has shifted. It's what
we've been saying. You know, when you look at the
Routers' Institute twenty twenty five Digital News.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Report, they have over seventy five percent.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Of US adults now get their news through a mix
of social media and.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Video clips rather than traditional networks.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Right right, and the production cycle that once took weeks
now happens in like minutes by individuals with like ring
lights and smartphones instead of studios.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
And control rooms.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
So do you view this evolution as a democratization of
storytelling if you will, where everyone can be a broadcaster, or.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
As the or do you feel as the.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Dilution of professional journalism and production craft that people like
you have helped build.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
It's kind of not so much the norm these days.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Well, I wouldn't give up what I went through and
had and what I learned and being on the studio
of floor and like being with people and meeting people
for anything.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Right.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
I think that people that are just going out don't
have like the grit of what I went through and
what I learned, and what people that were in my
industry were in the industry of day time television learned.
I mean, you can't just turn on a light and
feel what we felt for these people, you know, I
had all these experiences at the moriy Show also that
people's lives were changed, And I just think putting up

(13:25):
a ring light or whatever, I mean, everybody calls themselves
an expert. It's like a life coach. I mean, yah,
you know what makes you a life coach? And I
always say to people, they're not going to book you
if just saying you're a life coach. I mean you
really have to live it, you know, to understand it
and have gone through the emotions of it.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Well, we are officially out of time, but we could
continue on another segment. It was so much fun chatting
with you. What an extraordinary journey through truly time, truth
and television. I mean, from broadcast to broadband. You've shown
that platforms might evolve, but the purpose of storytelling and
to connect and to reflect and to heal, truly that
remains timeless.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
So thank you so much, Amy.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Thank you, it was great experience here.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Thank you and to our listeners letting me story be
your reminder that authenticity is truly ageless, relevance is earned,
and reinvention well that's the power. And you can follow
Amy directly on the Gram at Amy rosenbloom Tv, and
you can learn more about her legacy at wannabe on
tv dot com. And of course, today's Hydration with Heart

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Speaker 4 (15:13):
I'm your host, Zen.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Sam's and Today's Right Brain segment is one that every parent, educator,
and mental health advocate needs to hear. Our headliner when
a high functioning child breaks a father daughter conversation about OCD, anxiety,
and the brain's hidden imbalances.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Today, I'm joined by two very special guests.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Co contributor doctor Robert Milillo, world renowned expert in brain development,
founder of the Mililo Centers, author of Disconnected Kids, and
co host of the Right Brain Podcast, Joined by his daughter,
Ellis Milillo, researcher, educator, content creator, singer, songwriter, and the
emotional voice of the Right Brain movement.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Together they've created a powerful new.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Platform blending science, vulnerability and lived experience parents.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Here's a statistic that stopped me in my tracks.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Nearly one in three high functioning adolescents report anxiety or
depressive symptoms that go completely unnoticed by adults, and studies
show that internalizers, the kids who seem fine, are the
least likely to be identified until a major breakdown occurs. Today,
Ellis and doctor Malilo open up about her childhood, her

(16:25):
hidden OCD, the panic she've hid for years, the anxiety,
and the breakthrough moment when science and vulnerability collided.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Let's go deep. Welcome to the show, Superstars.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
Hi uh, thanks for having us, great interesting, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Thank you so much for joining us again. Ellis, I
love this topic. You are a superstar, doctor Mililo. Wow,
this is the irony right treating your own child in
many respects. So let's talk about Let's talk about why
you started the Right Brain podcast. So before we dive
into Elis's story, this podcast you both built didn't come
out of nowhere. There was a spark, reason, a moment,

(17:01):
and parents don't usually get this level of access to
a father daughter dynamic grounded in both science and lived experience.
So I'm really excited about this conversation, doctor Milillo. What
was the true catalyst behind starting the Right Brain podcast?
Whose idea was it originally? And what made you realize
that your story with Ellis could help other families.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
Yeah, she was actually the catalyst behind the podcast. And
you know was I've spent my career, you know, as
a clinician in neurology and rehabilitation, and all three of
my kids were very special and talented, but all of
them had their own unique challenges and so as a parent,

(17:44):
I appreciated that from the very beginning, you know, with
doctors throwing out labels like ADHD and not really explaining
what that meant. But you know, my two boys were
more in the forefront of challenges, and Ellis never really was.
As a child, she was really almost perfect. I mean

(18:05):
she just was, you know, great, and you know, and
her talent, her musical talent was evident from the time
she was born. I mean literally, I think she could
sing before she could speak. And then her songwriting ability emerged,
which was just phenomenal. But a lot of the challenges,
as you said, you know, the idea of describing it

(18:26):
is internalization. She internalized everything and it wasn't until later
on that we really understood the challenges and the OCD
and the anxiety that she was going through. And she
has taught me so much about that so that I've
been able to help other people, and there's so many
other people, as you said, especially anxiety right now is

(18:48):
such probably the most prominent thing that we see in
this in these more younger generations. And so, you know,
when she approached me about doing the podcast for her community,
I was like, this is a great idea, and this.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Brings me full circle to you.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Ellis, Let's talk about what it felt like to share
this your story publicly. So something you're doing that I
think is incredibly brave and honestly, Rare is speaking publicly
about anxiety and OCD and depression from the lens of
someone who masked her symptoms flawlessly. Like your dad said,
you were perfect, and girls especially are conditioned to perform

(19:27):
to be perfect. So what made you finally feel ready
to share this story publicly and why with your father
on a podcast for everyone to hear.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
I think that I think moving to Nashville really helped
because I started working with all these people that I
admired so much, and I kind of like noticed all
these things in them that I struggled with, and I
thought that was just like fascinating that, like the people
that in my head I would think would have it
all together because they like were successful or whatever, they

(20:02):
still were struggling, maybe even worse.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Than me at many times.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
And I think it just made me realize that, like,
this is something that everyone needs to talk about, because
we're all masking our symptoms and we're all just pretending
we're okay, and that's not good.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Doctor Mililo.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Let's talk about what she was like as a child,
because you said she was close to perfect so many parents, Well, no.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
He's right, because in contrast, to your brothers.

Speaker 8 (20:30):
You were not presenting with symptoms, right, So so hold on.
Many parents listening look back with guilt, asking themselves, how
did I not see it? And what's so compelling here
is that even you, a world leader in brain development,
has a daughter or had you know your daughter was
silently suffering under your roof.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
So doctor Mililo, take us back.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
What was Ellis like as a child from your perspective,
What early signs were there in hindsight, and what slipped
past even you from.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
The beginning she was her nonverbal communication was phenomenal, like
eye contact smiling, which now I realize is that right
brain ability was so evident early on. But you know,
from an early age, she also suffered from really bad
motion sickness, and her eyes were you know, not even

(21:24):
and she had some problems with her oculomotor system, so
her basic vestibular system. She had a little bit of
a tremor as a child. And these were things I
saw early on. But again I was just developing a
lot of my work, and there wasn't a lot of
other research out there to put it into context. But
I knew something was a little off there. But you know, she,

(21:47):
like I said, she sang. She was very very bright
early on. She you know, was a really great athlete
and you know, started playing soccer at a really high
level at a young age. She never got in trouble
in school. No one ever really said she had a
learning disability, even though she was really struggling with reading
and spelling. I mean, her handwriting was never great and

(22:09):
her room was always a little messy. But you know,
these were like fairly you know, she hid all of
this stuff and it was just really amazing. And it
wasn't until later on when she really revealed what was
going on and she couldn't really hold it in anymore,
that you know, I was able to really understand what
was going on with her this whole time.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
I think every parent just exhaled hearing that, because it
shows even the experts can miss the internalizers, like Ellis right,
because she was an internalizer.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
She still is probably now.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Ellis, Let's talk about how symptoms manifested through your adolescence.
So you've talked about being a classic high functioning kid, straightforward, responsible,
on top of things, but internally, like your dad said,
things were spiraling. So how did your anxiety, your OCD,
or your depressive tendencies actually show up in adolescence, and

(23:01):
how did you manage to hide it until college?

Speaker 4 (23:04):
You know?

Speaker 9 (23:05):
I mean with OCDA, was like randomly jump and like
if I didn't jump the right way, then I don't
have to redo it and do it over again, and
it would like and I would convince myself that like
my family was going to die if I didn't do
it the right way, and it would it would put
me into this like spiral where I would freak out.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
And I think I had a lot of social anxiety.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
Like I'm a pretty outgoing person, but I think on
the inside, even in sports and things like that, like
going to practice, sometimes I would just have so much anxiety,
like just going to be around all these people and
overthinking things I say and that.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
That type of stuff.

Speaker 7 (23:43):
So I don't know, I think it kind of all
was something I was sort of able to manage. But
then when I got to college, I think all the
pressure kind of also made me start having a pretty
bad eating disorder, and then everything kind of just I
don't know, came to light.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
I guess it wasn't that easy to hide anymore.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
It wasn't easy to hide, and that's such an important
framework for parents listening, because those behaviors look so subtle
on the outside, right, but internally you're suffering. And when
you admit it and when you put it out there,
there's no shame.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
Now, it's just about now, just about healing.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
So when people here rewiring the brain, they think it's overnight,
but healing is messy.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
It's emotional and without a doubt layered.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
So what did the actual healing process look like for
you once your dad stepped in from both the emotional
and scientific side. What was, if you could put it
into words, the hardest part and.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
What was the most relieving.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
I mean, I think I'm still like healing. You know,
everyone always is still working on themselves. But I think, yeah,
I think the biggest step was kind of like laying
it out all on the table. It's been very helpful
doing this podcast because I feel like every time we
do an episode, there's like more that we understand about
each other and that he can help me with. You know,

(25:00):
when I go to his office and use the brain
driver and red light lenses and red lasers and sound
therapy and light therapy and all of that is very helpful.
Like when you and I leave, I feel so much better.
And it's mixed with a little bit of chiropractic in it.
And yeah, the consistency of doing that mixed with you know,

(25:24):
being able to be honest with yourself and open about
what you're feeling, which is something that I'm still working on.
But it's like every time I kind of open up
a new door, you kind of start to heal that
a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Well, Ellis, doctor Mililo, thank you for this truly intimate
Right Brain conversation and I've learned a lot. And for
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and they hear about it from their wives and girl friends.
That's where they I don't make a big to do
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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area.

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You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten WR the voice of New york iHeartRadio.
I'm your host, Zen Sam's Today's Elevated Experiences segment is
brought to you by MTK Group and Y and the
Travel Club and of course our partners at Classic Travel,
the gold standard for curated concierge level journeys. Right now,
we're going to dive straight into the heart of white glove, wonderlust,

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the new rules of elevated Travel coming in twenty twenty six,
because luxury travel has officially evolved. Today's elite traveler isn't
chasing splashy, instagrammable moments. They're craving privacy, personalization, and presence.
In fact, global luxury travel is expect to rise more
than six percent in twenty twenty six. And the new

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status symbol isn't the penthouse suite. Its seclusion, deep cultural
immersion and beastpoke planning. And no one understands that better than.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
My two guests. First up, we have Camilla Zevaios.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
She is a powerhouse mother of two young, beautiful girls,
owner of Freedom Midtown, one of Manhattan's most vibrant Peruvian
Mexican restaurants, and the MVP Travel Concierge designer at Classic Travel.
And joining her is the amazing Land Stamps, the vice
president of Marketing at classictravel dot Com.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
LANs oversees the strategic.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Curation of one of the world's most exclusive luxury hotel collections,
offering elite travelers VIP status, exclusive amenities, and unmatched access. Together,
these two represent the future of elevated concierge level travel.
Welcome to the show, Superstars. Thank you all right, Camilla,
I'm going to start with you. So one of the

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biggest shifts Camilla and luxury travel is that Virtualso call
is what Virtuoso calls quiet luxury in motion and privacy
has become the new status symbol, and families are really
choosing curated, concierge led journeys instead of mass market luxury.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
So what are the new rules.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Of elevated travel for twenty twenty six and what are families,
especially moms asking for right now?

Speaker 13 (33:20):
In twenty twenty six, elevated luxury travel has shifted from
access to intentionality. Families, especially moms, aren't asking for let's say,
more amenities. They're asking for more ease. It's reducing the
mental load. And I feel like we can you know,
the best thing that we can offer moms nowaday is

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not having to think.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
So that's when we come on board. This is when
we give.

Speaker 13 (33:46):
Them that like break and just design everything about family rhythms,
give that support, you know, all those experiences that they're
expecting without having to be exhausting.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Beautifully said, Exhausting is the word. And yes, it feels
like luxury is.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Becoming more intimate and more intentional and more importantly more human.
So what you said is extremely important, and that's what
moms are looking for now. Lance Virtuoso's twenty twenty four
to twenty twenty five forecast shows a surge and demand
for no worries journeys, meaning the trip feels seamless from
the moment the traveler walks out their front door. So,
from your vantage point designing bestpoke itineraries, how have expectations

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fundamentally changed amongst elite travelers and what defines true white
glove travel today?

Speaker 6 (34:36):
Well, white glove service today.

Speaker 14 (34:38):
I think the most important is really knowing your clients
and building a relationship with your clients, because you have
to know their needs in order to provide the service right.
And one of those is for us is solving the
problems before they even exist, curating those experiences that are
impossible to get online, whether it's visiting a family winery

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where you're actually meeting the owners.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
Of the winery.

Speaker 14 (35:03):
These are things that you can't access online. So our
personal relationships that we built over the years allows us
to provide this level of service to our clients, and
that's really one of the most important things that we provide.
And then the clients should really never really see or
feel all the hard work that we do behind the scenes.

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They should just all they should see is the final
results of a flawless trip, and.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
There's a lot of hard work that goes on behind
the scenes. I know this for a fact, But what
you just said, that level of seamlessness is exactly what
today's travel craves.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
You captured it perfectly.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Now, Camilla stats are showing right now that seventy eight
percent of parents and seventy seven percent of moms say
trip planning is extremely stressful, and nearly seventy percent of
moms handle all the logistics alone. That's a full time
job before the vacation even begins. So, as a working
mom and a travel designer and an incredible one at that,

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what pain points do high achieving moms and families face
today and how does conscious travel solve those challenges?

Speaker 13 (36:12):
Yeah, so, just like you said, high achieving moms are
juggling careers, home logistics, emotional labor, scheduling for everyone, so
planning often feels like a second job. The biggest challenges
are for moms are decision fatigue and feeling that things
are gonna go wrong without backup lamp. We remove all

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of that, you know, we handle every detail with design
around family dynamics. We build in those safety in it,
and we ensure that the trip supports every need, especially
her still because she's like the brain behind it, right,
So it's not just the kids, is the mom and
giving her that piece to continue to make that trip
exceptional for the family when they go on. So we

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take a lot of what used to be stressed and
we turn it into actual care for her and the family.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
And that's exactly the emotional labor most families never talk about, right,
And your solution sounds like a life saver.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Now, lands travelers at the high end aren't buying hotels anymore, right,
They're buying access and after hours and after hours of
cultural experiences and private villas and yacht charters. Michelin level
dining in secret locations is a real thing, And all
the things money alone can't secure is what you have
access to. So why are conciers, travel design and membership

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models like MTK groups travel club exploding?

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Right now? What gap in the luxury market are you solving?

Speaker 14 (37:41):
It's really building a relationship with someone that knows all
the entry. You know, all the different components of the family,
the likes, dislikes, the even the personal relationships between the
family members is important because we'll have an extended family
going and the system law. We know, the system law
can't be next to the mother in law, so even

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though they're on a trip, it's no way all of
those details that really make the trips rememberable. And sometimes
we're putting out fires between family members. So it's all
of those different components and having access to the advisor
basically for seven and that's a trend, whether it's in

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travel a doctor. You know, people have a concierge doctor now,
So that's really the trend in the luxury market is
to have a group of advisors that are handling every
aspect of that part of your life exactly.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
You're bringing clarity, trust and access to a world that
became far too complicated now.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Camilla, the data shocked me.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
The fastest rising elite destinations for twenty twenty six. They
include Iceland, Antarctica, Norway, Egypt, and even Japan. So what
destinations or trip styles Camilla are trending most with your
loveury clients and why are they gravitating to these new locations?

Speaker 13 (39:03):
Okay, you're so spot on for twenty twenty six. A
lot of what I'm saying right now is so families
are really I feel like now are choosing those destinations
are that feel restorative, culturally rich, like you said Japan,
and not logistically simple. All of our travelers, at least,
like well travel clients have already done all the usual

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suspects you know South, the France and you know Italy
all that. So I feel like, for example, Japan offers
that like structure, serenity and unforgettable family experience. You have
New Zealand it offers that like nature and wellness into it.

Speaker 15 (39:41):
I was just in Patagonia, and then you.

Speaker 13 (39:44):
Have a lot of like let's say Africa, which is
multi generational, once in a lifetime bucket list. People are
not really looking for that very elevated you know, top
tier hotels, which are great, but I feel like they're
looking for the new luxury, which is nature.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
For reconnecting with themselves and families.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Now, Lance, what travel styles are defining the twenty twenty
six year that's coming in for your elite clientele.

Speaker 14 (40:10):
I've got clients, a lot of clients going to Bhutan
where they really want to just disconnect from the world
and you know, get a different perspective on life. Wellness is,
like I said, it is huge going forward. If you
can get a client into a wellness retreat, they nine
times out of ten that becomes part of.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
The yearly routine.

Speaker 14 (40:27):
They'll go back to Shah Wellness and they'll get the treatments,
they kind of.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
Reset their bodies for the year.

Speaker 14 (40:33):
Multi gen travel, that's that's always been a big part
of travel, but I think now it's a little bit
less than People love to stay in luxury hotels and
that's not going to go away, but they really like
to be immersed in the destination. So you see a
lot more parents taking their kids on trips where they're
actually going into the communities and doing you know, volunteer

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work when they're on vacation. So I think really the
trend is, yes, we're traveling, we're staying in luxury accommodations,
but then they want to bring something home that's meaningful
that's kind of elevated their their personal life as well,
whether it's you know, restoring themselves at a spa or
bringing home something from you know, an experience that they

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experience in the destination that's maybe made them a better
person when they return.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
And with that, we are at the end of our date.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
My dear friends Camilla and Lance, thank you both for
elevating us right now and that was masterful.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Thank you, thank you for having us. This was great.
Thank you very much for everyone listening.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
If you're craving a curated, effortless concierge design journey, definitely visit.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Classictravel dot com. You can check them out on the
gram at Classic.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Travel Service, Classic Travel, Lance at Camilla's Valos, and of
course a huge thank you to the MTK Group New
York and their Travel Club your passport to private aviation,
white glove services, and elevated experiences designed for the extraordinary traveler.
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Speaker 4 (45:24):
Welcome to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 15 (45:25):
Thank you, thank you so much you are here.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
I'm so excited to chat with you.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
You are our expert on the microphone today and I
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Speaker 4 (45:33):
So doctor you.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Your practice sits at the intersection of high level clinical
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of skin behavior across ethnicities, lifestyles, and even genetics. You
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research practices in the city.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
What conditions do you treat most often?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
And how does the diversity of your patient population shape
your approach?

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Well, that's a great question.

Speaker 15 (46:05):
First of all, New York gives me an incredibly diverse
range of patients. So I see every type of pigmentation,
from elasma to pih to sun damage. And because everyone's
skin behaves differently, I customize treatments pretty carefully. So what
works for one skin type might not work for another
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may irritate another. So focusing on a lot of gentle,
evidence based approaches and long term plans are essential for treatment.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
That makes a lot of.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Sense because New York diversity requires New York dermatology.

Speaker 15 (46:39):
Yes, very personalized care too.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Yeah, and it's not a one size fits all And
you're clearly yes, you're clearly tailoring care on a whole
different level. Now we're also watching a cultural moment unfold.
Social media, filters, heat exposure, stress, perimenopause, and even pollution
are fueling an epidemic of pigmentation concerns, and dermatologists across

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the country are reporting record numbers. So what trends your
patterns are you seeing right now around pigment concerns, malasma,
post inflammatory hyperpigmentation, or general skin health changes, particularly in
such a divers city.

Speaker 15 (47:17):
I think you just really hit the nail on the
head because we're looking not only at internal factors, we're
looking at external stressors as well. You mentioned the perimenopause,
you mentioned you know, the UV, but lately I'm seeing
a lot more post inflammatory hyper pigmentation or pH especially
from acne and cosmetic procedures done outside dermatology offices. People

(47:38):
are so much more aware of pigment thanks to the
makeup free trend.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Right, Patients want more non.

Speaker 15 (47:45):
Hydroquinone options that they can use for the long term,
and they're realizing that skin health and pigment are connected.
So you talk about like you know, bearer skin barrier
issues and inflammation that always makes the discoloration worse, and
you try to think of strategies to be to overcome those.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
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know that this particular company is to Spare is clinically
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Which puts my mind at ease.

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And what you just said is powerful and honestly reassuring
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And the other thing is that it's such a gentle
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And malassma especially is emotionally taxing. It's chronic, hormonally driven
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the condition that controls them, not.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
The other way around.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
So what is your overall treatment philosophy when approaching malassma
and complex pigmentation disorders that.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Tend to be chronic and difficult to manage.

Speaker 15 (48:59):
Well, when it comes to melasma or any other chronic pigment,
it's like a long term relationship. It's a long term condition.
It's all about controlling the inflammation so there is redness underneath,
repairing the skin barrier, and keeping the skin calm. I
avoid anything really too aggressive, so like lasers and peels
can actually backfire on these patients, So you have to

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be really careful that you don't get post inflammatory hyperpigmentation,
especially on your patients who are a little bit darker skinned.
So slow and steady progress is always better. Sometimes you backtrack,
sometimes you move forward. So it's always a lot of
handholding with these patients.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Now, Suspara has gained a global following because it works differently.
Systeamine is incredibly powerful, but in the right hands, it's
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Speaker 4 (49:48):
How have you incorporated the Sispara system into your pigment
protocols and what types of patients have you seen respond
best well.

Speaker 15 (49:56):
I use the SPAA a lot in my pigment protocols
because it's both gentle and really effective. Again, use it
for men and women of all ages. As the steaming
plus isibiotic amid fits well into long term pigment management.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
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Speaker 15 (50:11):
Melasma, for PIH and especially patients for which hydercronone didn't work,
or people who are too scared to use hydercroonone. It's
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rebound pigment, and so I think it's a gentle enough
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It's science meeting precision really, and the fact that it's
suitable for all skin tones makes it a true game changer. Yes,
now we are at the end, and I can't thank
you enough because this has been incredible. I learned so much.
Thank you for sharing your expertise and really giving our
audience a truly elevated understanding of pigmentation and modern dermatology.
You are quite the expert on the microphone.

Speaker 15 (50:50):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
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I'm going to repeat that one.

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