Billy Quarantillo, Lana Kerr, Susana Damouni, Paul Caldwell, and John Kraski

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Quarintello, an American mixed martial artistwho currently competes in the featherweight division of
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back, beautiful Tri State area.You're listening to a Moment of Zen right
here on seven ten, wore thevoice of New york iHeartRadio. I'm your
host, Zen. Sam's up nextin our Hydration with Heart segment brought to
you by Once Upon a Coconut.We're featuring UFC fighter Billy Quarentello, an
American mixed martial artist who currently competesin the featherweight division. Of the Ultimate

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Fighting Championship, winning six fights inthe UFC and two performance bonuses. His
goal is to become a world championand to give back as much as possible.
Today, he's here to chat careerand to talk to me about his
incredible brand partnership with Once Upon aCoconut and how they are revolutionizing the beverage

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industry, but also how they areleveraging the position and power to give back.
It all started with an inspiration tocreate Once Upon a Coconut because people
should create their own narrative around thebrands they consume, not the other way
around. Their goal is simple.They want to tell a story that we
can all be part of while hydratingthe world with next level, legendary tasting,

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premium coconut water. Welcoming down tothe show is the incredible Billy Quarantillo.
Welcome, Welcome, superstar. Ah, thank you so much. That
was a beautiful introduction, probably thebest one I've ever heard. Thank you
so much. I've been following yourshow now for the last few weeks and
it's really cool what you're doing,so it's great to be here. Absolutely,

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congrats on all your success. I'mso excited that you're here to chat
with me today and thanks for helpingus kick this off. You are a
public figure, and one can argueeven an expert when it comes to fitness
and health. Given your career andas a mom, I absolutely love coconut
water because it's truly proprietary in itshealth benefits. I mean potassium, calcium,

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and magnesium. Those are all electrolytes. They play important roles in helping
maintain heart health, liver and kidneyhealth, digestive functions, health, healthy
blood sugar levels, muscle and nervefunctions, and just so much more so.
I specifically started drinking it after myradiation while I was battling thyroid disease,
and typically I use it as acure all for hangovers. What was

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your first reaction when you tasted onceupon a coconut and what health benefits do
you love it for? Also,is there specific time that you generally like
to drink it? Yeah? Absolutely, and all those things you mentioned.
It's I think it's one of those. Uh, it's one of the biggest
super foods in the world. Andnot only is it a super food,
but it really aids with hydration.So even before I was approached from Once

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Upon a Coconut I read about andI consume coconut water on my own,
and I know that I trained ata Gracie gym, so you know,
the Gracie's basically began Brazilian jiu jitsu, and they would always talk about all
these super foods and they would putcoconut coconut water at the top of their
list. So that's what got meearly on in the coconut water game.

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And then my good friend John approachedme with this, uh, this once
Upon a Coconut and man, thefirst time I tried it, I absolutely
loved it. It's uh, it'sone of those acquired taste that you have
that you just know you're doing theright thing. You're putting the right stuff
into your body and being an athleteand being a performer. It's just such
a big, big part of whatI have to do. So it was

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it was a perfect fit for us. It's absolutely delicious. They got the
new flavors now that I absolutely loveand I'm just super happy to be a
part of this whole thing. Yeah, it's a perfect fit for you because
not only are you an athlete constantin need of rehydrating, your body.
But to your point, this isa brand that loves to give back and
they're doing something great. And ifyou want to go one step further talking

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about chem trails everywhere, I lovethat One's pont of coconut cans are PBA
free and PBA for those that don'tknow, can seep into food or beverages
from containers that are made with BPA, and exposure to this is a concern
because of the possible health effects onthe brain and prosty land of fetuses,
infants, and children, and itcan also affect children's behavior. So making

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sure that those cans are in fact, you know, BPA free art is
extremely important to me. I knowit's minuscule, but to me, it's
an important thing. Now, howdoes proper hydration impact your performance specifically?
And can you share any instances wherecoconut water has made a significant impact on
your training or recovery. Yeah,definitely, so a big part of my

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you know, my training schedule,and of course I live in Tampa where
and especially if you've been here thissummer, it's been one of the hottest
summers ever and it was the firstyear that I was in training camp.
The whole summer, so I didn'tget a chance to go back up north
where I grew up. It wasa very hot summer where right after my
workouts, I would go either havejust a straight up coconut water or I

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would make it into a protein shake, and it gives you the extra hydration
that you don't get with water,and it also doesn't have all those preservatives
and the other stuff that comes in, like the Gatorades and the sports drinks
and those type of drinks. Soit's a big part of my training.
And then the last part is beforethe fight. Like a lot of people

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know, like a lot of boxersand MMA fighters cut a lot of cut
a lot of weight to prepare themselvesand to make wait for the fight.
So right after I make weight,after you know, losing ten to fifteen
pounds of water weight, it's oneof the first things I have right after,
and I just like how it rehydratesme and replenishes all that sweat that
I got rid of, and itprepares me for that battle the day before

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the fight. Well, you soldme, and I'm a huge fan because
you're preaching to the choir, buteven just from my health perspective, you
hit it right on. Now,how did you get started in MMA and
what do you attribute all your successto? So it actually it started off
when I was always a fan ofcombat. It wasn't really that popular when

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I was growing up. I grewup watching boxing and other you know,
I would watch hockey and I would, you know, get get the most
excited when they would start fighting.So it basically came down to I got
my I graduated from high school.I went to a community college where I
could just pay it out right like. While I was going there, I
didn't want to take a huge studentloan when I didn't know exactly what I

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wanted to be. While I wasat that community college, I started training
in martial arts. I had somesome incidences where I thought it was important
to start learning how to train.And when I graduated, I didn't know
what was going to be next forme. I still didn't know what I
wanted to do. But that's whenI moved to Tampa Bay and I decided

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to give it a shot where Iwould train part time and then I would
go to school part time. Andthe school didn't really work out right away,
and I basically told myself, youhave a year until you have residency
to go to school here. Solet's take a year off, let's train
martial arts, and if it worksout, we'll just keep doing this and

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if it doesn't, we'll go backto school. And that was thirteen years
ago, so it's still working outfor me, the mm A path.
I haven't gone back yet, butI could still keep that option open.
But for now, you know,being in the UFC and and following my
dreams, that has been a muchbigger part than finishing up my bachelor's degree.
So incredible, what a great journey. I mean, listen, you

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go where there is no path andyou leave a trail, right, and
so going back and looking at allthe fights you've had, what was your
most memorable fight? And I'd alsolove to know what your training routine looks
like. Yeah, man, there'sbeen so many memorable ones. From my
first fight ever that I took inWestern New York when I didn't even know

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what I was doing, and Ilike walking out, I was like,
I don't know if I should evenbe here too. Probably the most,
you know, the most significant fightfor me was when because I've had so
many ups and downs. Like mostpeople, it's never as easy as you
think it's gonna be, but it'salways worth it. So probably the biggest
fight for me was when I wason Dana White's Contender Series. This was

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after years and years and years oftrying to get in the UFC, coming
up short, just a little bitshort, and part of me not knowing
if I would ever get a chanceto get in the UFC. And that
was a fight where if I lost, I don't even know if I'd be
here talking to you right now.That was in twenty nineteen and it was
pretty much a must win fight forme, and I went out there and

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I want a big, huge fight, and I got the UFC contract.
It was probably the best day ofmy career because it meant the most.
It was the biggest goal of mycareer up until that point, and I
finally broke through that wall of gettinginto the big leagues. So that one
definitely sticks out to me. ForIn terms of training, it's pretty much

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six days a week, I'm eitherI'm training at my Jim Gracie Tampa South,
where I do all my mixed martialarts training, or I'm at a
place called Driven where I'm doing mystrengthening conditioning, my recovery sessions over there,
and then a lot of the trainingis in my kitchen when I'm eating
the right foods, you know,drinking the right stuff, putting the right

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stuff in my body so that Icould I could execute at the highest level.
This is great stuff, great greatadvice. I love how you laid
it there. So now we haveabout three minutes and three questions left.
So number one of the last threequestions, is MMA a profitable career?
And what is the most important pieceof ice you can give to aspiring fighters?
Man? That is a great question. So when I first started,

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you know, when I was goingthrough that college process and I didn't know
what I wanted to do. Youknow, I wanted to be a big
businessman or something that was successful.Uh, Mixed martial artists really weren't making
that type of money there was Therewasn't like the Connor McGregor and these huge
stars at the time. So toanswer your question, it is profitable nowadays,
it's still very you know, thepercentage of people that actually get out

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there and get to the UFC andmake real money. It's definitely not easy.
But if you're like me and youyou have a strong desire and for
me, it was just go outthere and win. Go out there and
win. Just you know, don'tcelebrate too much. Now, keep waiting
until you get to that point.And finally, for me, after being

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you know, not having a lotof money from like twenty ten, eleven,
twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, you know, just grinding my
way to the UFC the last fouryears, it's really paid off for me.
And it's it's made up for allthose years where I didn't have a
lot to be able to capitalize iton those last few years. Uh,
it's it's definitely possible, and I'ma great example of that being possible.

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Yeah, and nobody gets to makingsix figures without putting in the work.
So you put in a decade worthof work. So you know, you
have endorsements now lined up and peopleare you know, sponsoring you, and
you have contracts and that's exactly whereyou should be. But you did put
in a decade worth of sweat fightand and your own personal time and equity.
Now, why do you think onceupon a coconut brand has taken off

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as quickly and successfully as it has, And why are all these VIPs and
celebrities like yourself major endorsers. Thatis another really good question. And and
for me, I think when Ifirst started talking to John, you know,
like the head hancho over there,who is a great friend. Now
I think I think what they dodifferently is they just everything right. They're

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not all about profits for themselves,I think, and that's relatable to anything
in life. I think if youhelp out other people and you give back,
it always comes back to you tenfold. And one of their biggest missions
was when when they first start whenyou know, when I when I got
to know what they're about, isthat they donate ten percent of every single
thing that they every single candid theysell. They're always donating a little bit.

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But on top of that, justfrom knowing John and seeing how much
he does outside of you know,the ones upon a coconut brand, I
think that was the biggest thing forme, just stuff that I wanted to
get involved in. He's got theDown Syndrome Foundation, he's got Charlie Rockett
on board now, who they're justalways giving back. They're just people that
you feel good about hanging out with, you feel good about talking to,

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because they'll go the extra mile.To give back to the unfortunate, and
you don't see that a lot withmultimillion dollar companies like they're working. Wow.
Yeah, that's a great endorsement.I echo your sentiment. That's why
I'm one of their ambassadors. Theyare one of our platinum sponsors, John
Ray, Mark Allen, Salt ofthe Earth. Kind of group, kind

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of people, and you definitely wantto get on board with good people because
good people make good things happen inthe world. Well, we are out
of time officially, Billy, thankyou so much for chatting with me.
Was an absolute pleasure. Oh it'smy pleasure. Thanks for having me.
I'm gonna keep following watching all yourshows. I really appreciate it. That
was our Hydration with Heart segment broughtto you by Once Upon a Coconut,

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and that was the incredible Billy QuarantelloUFC Fighter. You can check him out
directly on the Gram at Billy qMMA. Now imagine a drink that's nutrient
rich, powerfully refreshing, and naturallysweet, with no added sugars, not
from concentrate, zero additives, lowin calories, absolutely no artificial flavors,
and is so tasty that it willbecome your new favorite beverage. Once Upon

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a Coconut is available in four refreshingflavors, pure chocolate, pineapple, and
sparkling with energy. Do your tastebuds of favor and pick some today at
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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area. You're listening to a moment of
zen right here on seven ten wR the Voice of New York. Eyheart
Radio. I'm your host, ZenSam's up in just a few minutes in
our Going Deep segment brought to youby CO two Lift. Today we're featuring
beauty industry trailblazer Laniker, CEO andfounder of CEO two lists Lift and Lumisk

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Skincare. She's joined by beauty influencerSusanna Damuni. Now. Susannah has a
very large social media platform and fanbase. She's known as the Barbie Doll
of Instagram with millions of followers.Today, she's coming on to chat about
her Barbie Doll skincare routine, whycarbon dock side therapy for the skin is
the new trend, and the resultsafter using CEO to lift products. Welcoming

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down to the show are my amazingfriends Alannaker and Susannah DAMOUNI welcome Stannards to
beyonds Then, nice to see youladies again. Nice to see you too.
I'm so excited to be chatting myfavorite topic, skincare, with two
of my favorite people, Susanna asa fashion influencer who empowers women. How
important is self care to you?And being authentic with the products you endorse?

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Self care is very important to me, especially clean good products that work
because a lot of people are followingme and they want to know what I'm
using on my skin. So tryingto be the best that I can be
in trying to make everybody else thebest version of themselves by telling them the
products that actually really work, andalways being in the light, trying to

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always look my best. Like Isaid earlier, is very important to me.
Self care. I spent a lotof time maintaining my impauty. I
can see and it shows you arequite quite the stopper now, Lana as
the founder of the misk skincaren CEOto lift many women. I know this
for a fact look to you forempowerment and perhaps even inspiration. How important

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is your self care routine to you? Very important? You know, I
believe in practicing what I preach andreally everything that I've ever recommended or stood
behind is something that I personally use, and I believe self care is more
than just you know, taking careof the skin on your face, your
body, and as you know,I've talked a lot about the skin between

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our laser intimate skin, but itreally helps to keep us confident and helps
us when I think and a womanor a man, anyone really is their
best. They invest in their selfand invest in their skin, they're going
to really perform better in every areaof their life. So definitely, self
care is very important to me.I couldn't agree more. You echo my
sentiment. I have a routine.I stick to it. I don't miss

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a beat. I take my makeupoff every night, I replenish and rehydrate
my skin in my body. I'mright there with you. But it is
a routine and it has to beconsistent, and you can't do it just
when you feel like it. Youhave to incorporate it into your every day
and make it part of the ethos. So everything that you believe in.
So using products that are clean,that are sustainable, that are non invasive
is at the top of the lifelist. Now, Suzanna, you trend

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as the Barbie Dollar of Instagram andalways look flawless. What does your very
routine look like. I use anelectric brush to wash my faith. I
don't know if you've ever seen them, but I use that every single day
because I need to make sure thatall my makeup is off. So I
start with that with a soft cleanser, like cleansing milk because I don't want
to dry out my skin. Iuse a rose water turner alcohol free,

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because again I don't want to dryout my skin. I use spray my
face with a mist to hydrate itagain, and then I follow it up
with vitamin C hyaluronic theorem hyaloronic acidserum, and I'm really really hydrating moisturizer
and I repeat it the same thingat night, and I use a really
good makeup remover. I make sureeverything is completely off my face every single

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night. I cannot go to bedwith anything clean out a trace. And
what about non invasive procedures? Whatdo you recommend right now? For noninvasive
procedures? My routine includes microderm abrasion, micro needling, Morpheus, eight hydrofacials.
Oh what else? Have I co? Two lasers Clear Brilliant. It

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is definitely maintenance. I definitely Ispend a lot of time maintaining my skin.
And you know, because we're aging, and it's not that it's going
to reverse twenty years off of myselfor others, but it's that I'm trying
to prevent myself from getting older.The prevention is key always. It's not
just for skincare. For everything now, Lana, carbon dioxide therapy treatment that

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has been around since the nineteen thirtiesis no new news to you, though
the method of delivery has improved sincethen with a non invasive gel delivery system,
it's quite evident that it's working.Wonders because when I first met you,
the first thing that caught my attentionwas your incredible skin. Then you
told me how old you were,and I was completely shocked because you look

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at least a decade younger than youtruly are. And I mean that I
know it's extremely difficult to manage skinof color with hydration issues, hyperpigmentation and
scars at the forefront of most darkerskin concerns. As a Jamaican woman,
What does your beauty routine look like? Well, thank you for that compliments,
And I mean, obviously I meanthe skin business. I need to
reflect what I preach. But I'mabout simplicity. One of the things that

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I loved what Susannah said was definitelycleansing is super important and even for me,
but as you mentioned, hyper pigmentation, hydration, I think those two
things, especially for darker skin,is super important and really for any skin
hydration mottles because it's going to helpto keep the skin barrier healthy. And
so you know, again I COOtwo lift. I know it sounds like

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I'm promoting something that I sell,but that's really what I do. I
think that that has been the secretin my skincare routine. I do every
two weeks, I do co twolifts, carboxy mask and it's you know,
people who know me seven years agoand know me no, they have
always said to me that my skinlooks better. And one of the things
is the COO two lift because itis increasing hydration. There's really nothing else

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in on the market that brings yourhydration level up. And it's all about
looking like that perfectly smooth grape ratherthan a raisin, which all of us
are turning into. We can justslow that down. And so I think
that is my secret. But likeSusannah, I mean, I do you
know, I cleanse, you know, I moisturize, I use h A,
I use a skin glow oil onmy skin. I'm a big fan

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of retina. But again a lotof people do those things. I think
one of the missing ingredients. Andas we go tinue to hear more about
skincare developments, we'll see that carbondiox that is being a big rule in
terms of anti aging because of absorptionlevel of products. But again the hydration
factor is a big thing. Loveall this proprietary information. Thank you so

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much for sharing that. And Susannahthrough your point, you know you have
to do it consistently, Lana,you send the same thing. We're all
saying the same things. It's notso much necessarily what you're using, but
that you are sticking to a routinethat works for you. Now, Susannah's
a lot less need to wear alot of makeup for shoots. Does this
affect your skin? It definitely drivesmy skin out, And that's why it's

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like Lana was think, it's veryimportant to hydrate. And I also do
use an oil and the retina theretinald a sorry Reynold. It kind of
takes off a few of skin,like you know, it's like microderverbrasion,
So that's also important. I tryto incorporate that in my skin care routine
also twice a week because the makeupdoes stick on your you know, it

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goes into your pores and you wantto just open them up and like get
rid of that layer skin not skin, but you know what I mean,
exfoliate, So I think it isimportant for sure. And yeah, I
noticed that my skin is very drywhen I wash my face and that's why
it's important to have that maintenance programthat Yes, this is another great reason
to start using sew to Lift consistently. And I can't wait to hear you

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report back after you've used it forat least a month now. A Landa
carboxy therapy has many proprietary uses.This non basic procedure involves, as we've
been talking about the therapeutic use ofcarbon dioxide for skin regeneration, and it
is as we've seen through studies,this is extremely effective for skin rejuvenation.
But why is specifically seal to Lifteffective for monels, influencers and public fingers.

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I think, just to what Susannahwas saying, typically they're in front
of the camera, so they're wearinga lot of makeup, the lights are
on them, rise out their skin, they're doing a lot of red carpet
events. I think what's also importanttoo is the amount of makeup that you
that you can use left backup.Because your skin is healthier. People want

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to see your skin. Really,the purpose of makeup is to enhance your
results, not to cover over yourskin. And I feel that for people
like Susannah, they would benefit alot because by keeping their skin healthy,
they can wear less makeup. Peoplecan see their healthy glow, They'll be
able even the makeup that they usewill last longer, and certainly for the
lights and for the hard hitting thingsthat they're doing to their skin, it's

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a way to regenerate it and recuperateit so that they can feel they can
still feel good and look good andlook young, useful. Yes, yeah,
it's extremely important. Now, Susanna, you've received the suit to Lift
package and what was your initial reactionto the packaging, the box, the
crime boxing therapy concept in general asa non invasive proceger. Is this something

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you're excited about? Yes? Sowhat I like the most is how easy
it was to use. I thoughtit was going to be a lot more
complicated just because it is a cootwo lips. So I'm thinking about when
I go to the SPAW and I'mgonna get the two laser, you know,
which I usually do once a year. So I was like, oh
my gosh, I'm gonna have somuch downtime. What am I gonna do?
And what I really liked about itis just mixing two packets inside a

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bowl and mixing it for sixty secondsand then applying a thick layer of that
gel in my face. I leftit on. I did it twice.
Now I left it on for anhour, and what I noticed is the
texture of my skin is a lotsmoother, and I was like, wow,
I look really smooth, like justlike somebody iron my face. Though
that was one benefit that I noticed. The other benefit that I noticed was

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I was glowing. My skin isglowing. I look hydrated. I feel
hydrated, and that's what you know, you want to look like that,
you want to look like you havehealthy we Like Lena was saying earlier,
it's not about covering up your wholeface and masking it. It's about,
you know, giving it a littlebit of a lift. And exactly what
that is as a theostal lift,so exactly what it's saying. And for

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myself. The other thing that Ifound really interesting, which I was so
scared to do. I thought Iwas gonna feel like a burning sensation and
there was none of that. Itwas very soothing and I like that I
could put it over my eyelids,right to my eyelash line, over my
lips. I was like skeptical,up erst of, like you hope,
but that I didn't. I waslike, oh my gosh, it actually
hydrated my lips and my eyelids likeno, I beers like smoothed out,

(28:37):
my crow's feet smoothed out. SoI was just like, Wow, this
is really this is a really reallygood product. So I will tell us
what you don't like about it.I can't say that right now. I
love I love the endorsement. Thankyou. I was I even sure if
you had tried it, But Iwant to be mindful of the time,
so I have one working to sayabout it. Had oh man. So
I've had firy cancer and I havestap in my neck, so I can

(29:02):
never do laser treatments on my neck. So the great thing about the CEO
two lift was I could put itall over my neck and I did a
little bit of my definite sea aswell, but whatever was left over.
But that's really important because I've alwayssaid, what about my pigmentation on my
neck? I'm afraid that staples aregonna melt you know what I mean.
So now, so now we knowhow you you can't repair your skin from

(29:22):
all the lights and makeup, andwhy non invasive treatments are extremely important.
Now you have a best friend torely on called Zo to lift. Now
I'm gonna shift to Lana. Thisis our last question, and this is
actually a questions from both of you. So, Lana, what is the
biggest misconception people have about you?I think the biggest thing when I when

(29:45):
I meet people, is is reallymy age? I don't know if that's
a good answer, but you know, generally people I mean, I'm fifty
three, are going to be fiftythree soon, and they think I'm younger.
I don't know if that's a misclansugit, you know, but yeah,
I think I think that's it.Your age is a good one and
I would definitely not get it right. Zana, what about you? I'm

(30:08):
sure you get a lot of commentsand dms. I knew, so I
would have to agree with lad ofmy age. Nobody knows my age and
stuff for you then, so filledthat and on bord and also a lot
of people think that I've had likefillers done boat talks and that is a
big no no for me. Solike the CEO two lifts, since it's
like something that you know not inyour talk, then going into my bloodstream,

(30:30):
it's very important for me. Sothat is a huge misconception. Everybody
thinks that I've into fillers and boattalks, and I absolutely am not got
it. Okay, well, listen, this was a great session. I
love CEO two lift. It's alllove here. I mean, listen,
I've tried the product. Lana knowsthis. I'm a huge fan. Lana
said something very smart at the beginningof the interview. She said, She's

(30:51):
all about simplicity, and when youthink about this product, it's exactly that.
It's so simple when it chews intothe skin seal to immediately diffuses at
the cutaneous and lescular microcirculatory levels,and this results in higher tissue oxygenation and
neo andiogenesis and the blood vessels widened, increasing the transport of oxygen body tissues

(31:12):
for cellular regeneration and anti inflammatory effects. That concept right there is so simple,
and that's because of the carboxy therapy. It's actually there's nothing in between
the lines, and so for meit's extremely important. That's why you see
and feel that lift. So Ijust wanted to end that parton for my
circle of love in this and nowwe are officially out of time. Lana,

(31:34):
thank you so much for all theinformation that you've provided with us today.
Clearly this product is something that isnot just the trend, but people
are really trying it and seeing results. And I think when you have a
sustainable, authentic product, the sky'sthe limits. So congratulations, thank you,
thank you so much, and thankyou Susana for trying it. Thank

(31:55):
bloving it right. I'm Vanna,thank you so much for coming on.
You know, we always love havingyou on as our health influencer when it
comes to skin and beauty. Thankyou for having me on this show.
It's only the pleasure should be onwith you. Then that was our Going
Deep segment brought to you by Cotwo Lift. That was a beauty industry
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Welcome back, beautiful Tristate area.You're listening to a moment of Zen
right here on seven ten w rthe voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm
your host, Zen. Sam's upnext. In our Innovation and Tech segment,
brought to you by Caldwell Solmes andogpa dot Com, we have our
returning contributor, Paul Caldwell, Chairmanand CEO of Caldwell Solmes, and today

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he's joined by John Krasky, Directorof strategic partnership at landvolt dot io.
He's a Web three influencer on LinkedInwith over sixty thousand followers. He's an
executive and creator for some of thetop Web three companies worldwide. He's also
the author of the upcoming book TheFuture of Community. He's passionate about educating

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brands and consumers about the world ofWeb three. Now I've said this before,
but imagine a world where billions ofpeople live, work, shop,
learn and interact with each other,all from the comfort of their couches in
the physical world. In this world, the computer screens we use today to
connect to a worldwide web of informationhave become portals to a three D virtual

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realm that's palpable like real life,only bigger and better. Digital facimiles of
ourselves or avatars, move freely fromone experience to another, taking our identities
and our money with us. Todaythey joined me to chat Web three,
the metaverse, and how fintech that'sfinancial technology, will be adapting, fueling

(34:31):
and powering at all. So wheredoes this nascent technology revolution stand today and
where is it headed? Let's findout. Welcoming now to the show,
are my experts at hand? PaulCaldwell and John Kraski. Welcome to the
show, Superstars. Hi Hi Zen. Excited to be here, Excited to

(34:51):
have you both back on. SoJohn, I'll start with you. You're
the founder of future Proof, aWeb three technology firm dedicated to creating top
tier solutions across multiple disciplines to basicallyensure your business remains relevant today in future
Proof for tomorrow Now. Web threerefers to the third generation of the Internet,
which aims to decentralize and reconfigure theWeb's infrastructure and services. Unlike Web

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two, where centralized corporations controlled dataand platforms, Web three is built on
blockchain and decentralized technologies. But whyshould people even be thinking about moving their
business model to Web three? What'swrong with Web two? And if so,
what's the best way to make thetransition? Wow, that's a load
of question. I love it.This is obviously where the future has headed

(35:37):
the Internet. It's it's becoming threeD, more immersive. Creators are going
to be able to own and monetizetheir assets better as well as brands.
So we're here really to help themwith this transition. It's we're still very
very early. It's still very nascentstage. I think brands are trying to
figure out where where they are interms of entering this new space. We

(36:02):
help them figure out what is thebest sort of initial entry point. So
obviously I'm working for Landball. We'reone of the world's largest metaverse builders.
We have one hundred and twenty developers. We've done almost two hundred builds in
platforms such as decentral Land, Sandbox. Now we're moving more into hyper realistic
environments like Unity, Unreal also Roadblocksand Fortnite. A lot of brands are

(36:27):
showing interest in so we're trying tofigure out, like what is that initial
platform that they should start to exploreand then kind of on board them building
experience to start to help them bettermonetize and own their assets. But the
creator economy is going nowhere. Obviouslyyou just saw that Amazon now is working
with TikTok there they want to startpaying influencers to promote their products. Brands

(36:51):
need to be involved because the creatorsthey're going towards this decentralized universe where they
can own and monetize their assets better. So brands better figure outs for them
later because if not, there's gonnabe nobody there to promote their products and
services, so obviously, and youalso see with former Twitter now X they're
now starting to give creators better royalty. So the creator like, the creators

(37:13):
are starting to have the power nowin this new immersive internet. So you
as a brand need to figure itout. Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
So. It's like the boats leaving. We're on our way out the
scene and you better hop on board, or we're leaving without you. And
you're right, the only thing thatpeople should be fearing is not being part
of it now, Paul, Webthree, the metaverse, and the evolution
of fintech are all interconnected trends thathave the potential to reshape the way we

(37:37):
interact with the digital world and financialservices. And Web three introduces the concept
of true digital ownership, allowing individualsto have ownership and control over their digital
assets and data. And cryptocurrencies andblockchain tech are integral to the metaverse.
Now, fintech companies are developed developingcrypto wallets and payment solutions that allow users

(38:00):
to make transactions within virtual worlds.How is the ogpay fintech app proprietary for
Web three? And can you talkto us about some of its unique applications,
both on the consumer and merchant side. Sure, And I think,
just as a follow on to whatwas you said earlier, if people think

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about web three, first of all, most people don't even know what web
three is, even in companies,they don't know. If they just would
think about it as the Internet onblockchain, just think about it's the Internet
on blockchain, as simple as thatat the beginning. I think that's the
most fundamental explanation. But what Iwould say in answer to your direct answer
to your question is that every companyin our portfolio, whether they're consumer brands,

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companies and are publicly traded enterprise fundor whether they're privately held in our
privately held Companies fund, all havethis on their mind. And I completely
agree brands have to either get onboard. Companies have to get on board,
or they're going to get simply leftbehind the naming conventions. I really
two companies in our portfolio that arereally in the process of basically doing land

(39:09):
grabs right now around naming conventions.I find very interesting because there is an
internick of the future, and it'snot internick. Basically, if you can
think of when you had h ur l's or IP addresses. Let's say
that it was one zero one,dot two four, dot free, zero

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six, dot one, and youcould have that and work with the Internet
with your arch server or your Veronicaserver or wide area information servers, or
you could create something that came afterthat was the urel dot com, dot
gov, dot dot net, dotdot whatever, now dot anything, basically
right, And when it gets todot anything, you have to ask yourself

(39:52):
what's next, because a u RLis just that, but the urel is
already it's just waiting to be replacedat this particular time by really unique and
very interesting naming conventions where the urel, where the person's identity in the
company's identity, follows it no matterwhat. So think of dollar sign or

(40:15):
think of carrot. In my world, Carrot Paul calledwell, that's my u
r L, that's my unique identifier, and that follows me wherever I go.
So if I leave a company,I no longer have to have my
name at my company calledwell office dotcom, I don't have to have that
anymore. I would just have mycarrot in my name and that's all that

(40:37):
needs to be there. So nomatter what company I work for, My
identity goes with me. It doesn'tget lost in the companies are It's extremely
important and I think I think that'sjust a degree of ubiquity. But from
a business point of view, whenyou get into fintech and og pay really
what you have is something that ogpays up is a payments platform, a

(40:58):
payments technology that is a service thatpeople can subscribe to, and it transforms
how people think, how they abouthow they use their money because you really
have things like edge liquidity provisioning.You really have features there that allow people
to have all of it in oneplace and have settlements of digital assets,

(41:22):
sales settling onto FIAT based wallets,and these sorts of things in real time.
But the wallet to wallet feature leveragingthe new ISO two hundred and twenty
two, that's all built into atechnology like that. I think those types
of technologies in the payment space arenow and are in the future, yes,

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but they're now, they're right now, yeah, and Ogpa is just
exactly that. It's a superfintech appand I love it for that. Now,
let's chat metaverse, John. Theconcept is not new. The term
metaverse was coined in nineteen ninety twoby author Neil Stay Stevenson and his sci
find all will snow Crash and workon the technologies that inderpend a virtual reality

(42:04):
based on Internet date back decades,but because the metaverse is largely unbuilt,
there's little agreement on how it willactually work. But broadly speaking, however,
the metaverse is a digital ecosystem builton various kinds of three D technology,
real time collaboration software, and blockchainbased decentralized finance tools. You recently

(42:25):
claimed in a post that the oldterm metaverse is dead. However, the
new term three D Internet is not. Please explain. We've sort of seen
this evolution of what brands and consumersare ready for in terms of the metaverse
over the last few years. Weobviously, early on in our infacy as
a metaverse company, leaned into Sandboxin decential and super decentralized platforms. Unfortunately,

(42:49):
very clunky, not a lot ofusers, really terrible user experience,
and we did close to two hundredbuilds in those platforms. Unfortunately, just
nobody's there. So brands and consumersnow, whether you love it or not,
they believe that the metaverse is Platformslike roadblocks in Fortnite, which are
super super centralized, but that's wherethe data and the users are. There's

(43:15):
there's over sixty million people daily activeusers in both those platforms. So that's
that's where brands like Nike, LVMH, the list goes on and on that
that's where they're putting their dollars andthat's where they're building. And what we
do believe is going to happen isthat eventually those platforms will turn on the
Web three switch. It's just wheneverbrands are ready and the technology is ready.

(43:37):
I think the technology there's still there'sstill a lot of catching up.
I mean, I think I thinkPaul, would you know also agree,
I think that you know, there'sjust a lot of infrastructure that still needs
to be built out. It takesa while to onboard billions and billions of
users. It's really about mac adoptionat this point. It's mass adoption.
It's about regulation, and it's aboutfollowing protocols. And we'll speak about protocols.

(44:00):
This brings me to a great point, Paul, decentralized finance. So
defy protocols and platforms are being integratedinto Web three and the metaverse allowing users
to access financial services like lending,borrowing, and yield farming directly from virtual
worlds. So for the one pointseven billion people that are unbanked and or

(44:20):
underbanked, this version of fintech feelslike a game changer. How do you
envision the metaverse or to John's point, three D internet reshaping the financial services
industry and the way we interact withdigital assets in the long term, I
mean, can the right fintech appssolve real world issues? I believe absolutely.
I think they are today. Ithink a lot of the features and

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functionality that you get from your existingbanking app on your phone is driven by
fintech that someone created at some pointthat allows that new feature to come about.
Look at Zell for examples, agreat example of a technology looking for
a home and it founded in bankingand and and it's a great success.

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There are opportunities abound, basically,and I think there are also roadblocks.
I think there are hurdles. Iagree with John completely that it's it's not
there yet. The vision is there, but there's always a vision. It's
just somebody just needs to have oneand write a sci fi movie. I
write you a book or something.But then there's then it's it's coined and

(45:24):
names are everywhere there's been metaverse,universe, omniverse, verse verse. I
mean, so for me, wherethe rubber meets the road, which is
what I have to focus on isreturn in two portfolios. Is that it's
very important to find real tangible valueand how that value is going to get
grown and delivered to the marketplace.And that's not easy to do in this

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space because there's a lot of noise. I think it's embryonic right now,
but I think yes, in answerto your question, absolutely is the answer,
and I believe that as we goforward, we're going to see more
and more coming out of venture.If you look at what's in venture right
now, and then coming out ofventure, which is where we play,
we get to look at a lotof that stuff. And I think that

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Web three is certainly or the Interneton blockchain is certainly a thing. It
is a meaningful thing now if you'reif you're willing to be in now.
But when you talk start talking aboutfinance and defy the regulatory environment is such.
If you if you look recently,three platforms that just got you know,

(46:30):
found themselves in hot water with hotwater. Yeah, you know you
have that commodities. Yeah, wellyou have to you have to be careful
and you have to be smart aswell. I mean, this is why
law firms, really well established lawfirms have forty fifty people in their in
their digital group right now doing nothingbut working on things like this to keep

(46:53):
those companies out of hot water.And it's interesting because I'm going to segue
to we have to last question butless than two minutes. But smart contracts
are a great example. I mean, fintech is driving the adoption of smart
contracts, which automate financial transactions andagreements within the metaverse, right, ensuring
trustless and efficient transactions. So it'sextremely important that we focus on that infrastructure

(47:15):
and mass adoption. But regulation.Now, John, what trends or innovations
do you anticipate in the coming yearsthat will further integrate Web three, the
metaverse and fintech. What we're findinghere in Dubai in the Middle East,
they're really leading heavily into Web threein the metaverse. But we're starting to
create custom, bespoke metaverse experiences thatbasically can be done on mobile and basically

(47:38):
it's almost like basically a three Dwebsite. I mean, that's basically what
we're building. So they're leaning intothe unity and real hyper realistic experiences.
We're doing something for the Formula onetrack for the upcoming race in Abudabi.
We're working with a large bank inthe Middle East to basically create a metaverse

(47:58):
experience for their their customer. Soa lot of really interesting use cases we're
seeing governments, tourism, those seemto be the two big areas in the
Middle they're specifically leveraging this technology andit makes a ton of sense. Obviously,
tourism is probably behind oil is likethe second biggest industry in Dubai in
the Middle East, so they're stilltrying to get more and more people experiences.

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And what better way then if youcan't physically get on an airplane and
spend all that money come and experience. Imagine seeing the pyramids and the metaverse.
I mean, it would be incredible. Now, you're hundred percent right,
and those industries are emerging and weshould definitely be eyeing them even from
an investment perspective. Now, Paul, less than a minute, what advice
would you give to fintech professionals lookingto explore opportunities in Web three. I

(48:42):
would say, have some really goodfilters in place to understand what really matters
and what doesn't. I remember whenthe Internet when it really got into the
websites, and every company had awebsite or everybody was jumping on the bandwagon,
get a website, get a webthat's back when a website would cost
you fifty thousand dollars to have developed. And why why do you want to
invest with thief because you've got tobe you have to have a website.

(49:02):
Well you don't, you know,people think you just have to be part
of the metaverse. They don't evenknow what it is, or you have
to be part of web three.They don't even know what it is.
And so I think people should askthemselves why, and I think they should
look at golden circle, golden circlethe whole thing. Why do I want
to do this? Or why doesit matter to us? What are we
going to do? And then howare we going to do it? It's
basically a simple three phase approach todecision making. But if you approach things

(49:27):
that way, you typically don't getcaught up in all kinds of the noise.
And there is a tremendous amount ofnoise. And I think the regulatory
environment's getting better and better. Ithink it's getting more and more you know,
constructed, but it's still being builtout as well. You know,
you have to be careful. Iwould just caution people and have great advisors,
have really great advisors, experienced,knowledgeable track record, you know,

(49:53):
advisors, Yes, because we needto know that we I mean, I'm
smart enough to know that I don'tknow everything's I'm always looking to others for
that. But thank you. Weare out of time, Paul, Thank
you so much for joining us.John, what a pleasure to have you
back on. Thank you. Thisis appreciate z. That was our innovation
and Tech segment, brought you byOgpay and Caldwell Solms Web three. The

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metaverse and fintech are definitely interconnected inshaping the future of the digital world.
Fintech is not only adapting to thesetrends, but also fueling them by providing
the necessary financial infrastructure and services.Now, as these trends continue to evolve,
they will likely create new opportunities andchallenges for businesses, individuals, and
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