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Upon a Coconut. Today, we're featuring Brian Kordovitch. He's a
powerhouse in the world of sports and entertainment. He's best
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known as the founder of Aces, a brand that's rapidly
rewriting the script on what it means to connect sports, music,
and culture. His journey from Cleveland to playing basketball professionally
around the Globe and ultimately founding ACES is one of
pure grit and relentless vision, from street courts to partnering
with icons like Nike and NBA. Two K Brian is
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more than just a businessman. He's a game changer with
a message of ambition and universal connection. Welcoming now to
the show is the amazing founder of ASS Brian.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Welcome, superstar, Thank you, Zan. I appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I'm gonna have to have you introduce me every time
I come out on a platform.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, listen, this is exciting to have you on.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I'm going to go into some statistics here, but according
to recent studies, over seventy percent of Americans report struggling
to find purpose in their daily lives. So with that
kind of existential struggle, the concept of hustle and heart
speaks to a huge audience in a very profound way. Now,
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your brand ACES champions this idea of hustle and heart.
It's an ethol that's touched millions. How did that philosophy
become so central to your story? And what message are
you hoping resonates most with people facing inversity.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
Sure, I have to take a few steps back. I
think in life it's all ball purpose and finding your
inner piece. So with that you have to chase your
passion and dreams. So before Brand Aces, there was Smoking Aces.
You know, playing professional basketball. I did the best I could.
Always had big dreams and not visions of one day
playing in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
It wasn't a straight forward path. It was not linear.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
You know, got a chance to play professionally Kuwait, Italy, Israel, France,
the Dominican Republic, got drafted in the NBA G League.
I had a couple try out to the New York
Knicks and Brooklyn Nets. But really set me apart was
playing at Rutger Park up in harle And that's where
the nickname Smoking Aces came about. You don't have that
storybook division one career. You have to figure out somewhere somehow.
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So what did was I used the streets of New
York City, especially the legendary ebc Rucker Park, and after
one summer of not playing, went back there. So from
every racial white nickname you could think of to Nicholas
Shade in ninety eight degrees, I dropped up fifty points
one game and it went to Smoking Aces, and I
remember after I asked the guys why and the mic,
I'm like, why smoking Aces? They said, the Ace is
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the best car in the deck and you were smoking
the brothers. It's legendary to me growing up in Cleveland,
I knew what playing at that park meant. So that
got me all my tryouts in the league, and then
from that come back that following summer give my own
team end up leading the Rucker and scoring first time
a person of the stature has done that. And what
came with that was shoe deals from and one K
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one X and kind of storytelling throughout New York City
rooted in the origin of Rucker Park. What happened was
the day before Summer League twenty sixteen, I go back
to the bend my scoring title. What happens, I rupture
my achilles, So again setbacks right. I saw the impact
that my story had in basketball, so I dropped smoking Aces,
turn it into brand Aces, and started building this brand
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platform backwards in basketball, sports and music through events, collaborations
and with athletes and in major brands.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Wow, that's amazing. What were the key moments that made
you realize that basketball could be more than just a
game and that it could be a lifelong career and
even a way to impact communities on a larger scale.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
I think the people a few things. The people you
meet through the game, you know, relationships, network, getting connections,
and just the disciplines that you meet through the game
right the daily you know, Brian working out, keeping your
body in shape, you know, physically, spiritually, mentally, it transforms
into what I'm doing now.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
So it's a big ecosystem.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
I think it's the biggest marketable sport in the world
because you know, people are wearing helmets or hats, so
it's the most successible for any you know, person up
in Harlem, in Cleveland, Ohio, in Miami, or in North Dakota.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
So it's a.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Universal game where anybody can go pick them and play
a ball. So I think being blessed to be able
to play the game and stay rooted in.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Basketball has been a universal connectivity. Ya ass. You know
is kind of taken off in the.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Space influencer marketing. Let's shift a little bit because that
seems to be at the heart of a lot of
what you're doing, especially in sports. So influencer marketing in
sports is projected to each twenty two and a half
billion dollars by twenty twenty five. Brian, So it's big business,
but authenticity is key, and you seem to capture that
with aces. So you collaborate with iconic athletes and celebrities
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from PJ. Tucker to Justin Bieber. How do you choose
partnerships that align with your brand's ethos of hustle and
heart and what's the secret to keeping that authenticity?
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Great question.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
I think you got this. Disney came to Flip from
playing basketball. Like I said, the way it was built,
it wasn't forced. We didn't pay anybody to ever be
a part of our stuff. I think it's number one,
people like to play basketball, and number two, I had
a lot of personal relations to the athletes started rocking
the brand slowly over the year, from PJ. Tucker to
Justin Bieber, to KD to Sue Bird to Asia Wilson.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
And once they start seeing what that logo.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
They may not knew what the brand was and they
saw the logo, but they saw the logo everywhere, and
then once they saw the storytelling behind it. I think
my background I may have not made it to the NBA,
but I think the impact and the platform that we
give these athletes to tell their stories is resonating not
only the athletes, but the culture and the space. And
most recently be tapped into music and created a track
with Dave easton Maino. So RUST be able to bridge
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out and reach all diboital touch points of culture.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
It has been special and we'll just have to keep
this going.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
There's an estimated three point five million kids playing high
school basketball in the US dreaming of going pro. Though
less than zero points zero two percent make it okay,
So the odds are stacked. But programs like ace's Elite
Classic and Hustle Heart they offer crucial opportunities. And for
these young athletes facing staggering odds, how does ACES aim
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to provide not just a showcase but also a pathway
to something bigger.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
It's more than a game.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
I'm I'm glad you asked that the AC League class
which is our McDonald's type All American Games individual All Stars.
And the unique one about that is not just seniors
like most of these All American Games, it's freshmen two seniors.
The cold bar about this is they only when they
become McDonald's All Americans they come back to ACES because
our media reach, our exposure are our streaming deals with
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Amazon and the NBA app it It just puts these
guys in places that they may not have been seen
as freshmen. So for them to not only come up
this ranks and for ACES to get in the platform
means a lot of will continue to do so.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
It's not just about the top guys, that the underdogs
as well.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
So we reach we think all spectrums with now the
ACES League Classic, but most recently, which you guys attended
the Hospital Hart Classic, which features the top teams in
the country on the boys and girls side as well.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You're doing something amazing. Now let's look at some statistics.
Seventy percent of people say they would buy from a
brand they feel aligns with their values, and ACES has
created a brand that resonates deeply with values of ambition, resilience,
and connectivity. I know for a fact that your brand
is built on storytelling. What narrative are you most committed
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to sharing through Aces and how does it reflect your
personal journey from basketball courts to boardrooms?
Speaker 6 (10:53):
No great question.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
I think people buy by the related and they connect
the story. So if you can tell that in authentic way,
which we have over the years. Everyone's like, why didn't
you start with the peril?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Right, because I'm answering your statistical question.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
I'm like, let me build the story, let me build
the community, let me build the social equity in the
marketplace and online. And once people feel that that's storytelling
of there want to they want to touch the physical products.
So that's why we built this brand platform back wheres
most brands, you know, start with the peril and then
go do other stuff. We're like, now, let's build a community,
let's build strong IP, Let's create the strong narrative and
stay authentic to what we're doing in align with global
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brand partners. And from then, I think the consumers of
buy anything because they really believe in the founder, with
the brand and what the product stands for.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Oh, I love everything you said. Well, we are officially
at the end of our time. I want to thank
you so much for joining us today and your story
of resilience, grit and the unstoppable drive to turn adversity
into opportunity is inspiring and aces, my dear, It's a
testament to what can be built with hustle and heart.
So for those listening, let Brian's journey. Be a reminder
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no matter where you start the impact, the impact you
make is different by the ambition and authenticity you bring
along the way. Brian, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Zen, I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Thank you Until next time, Keep striving, keep dreaming, and
stay hydrated with heart. This is Zen. Sam's on A
Moment of Zen's on seven to ten WOI, the Voice
of New york iHeartRadio. Definitely check out Brian on the
Gram at Smokin' Aces number one and you could head
to brandaces dot com and definitely check out Aces on
Instagram at Aces a Cess. We'll be right back after this.
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of New York. Today, we're going to be covering top
trends in women's health, cosmetic surgery, and empowerment with a
focus on what's resonating most with women today. Interestingly enough,
a currently trending and somewhat controversial procedure making waves in
twenty twenty four is post ozembic plastic surgery, which has
been highly publicized, especially amongst celebrities. This particular trend emerged
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as many high profile and individuals and regular patients started
using ozembic and other GLP one medications for rapid weight loss.
You guys remember seeing this all over the tabloids. The
dramatic weight loss caused by these medications often leads to
excess skin and volume loss in areas like the face
and body, prompting this increased demand for procedures like facial
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rejuvenation and body conjuring to tighten that skin and restore
loss volume. Doctor daisy Iim is here to pipe in
on what is trending, So we're going to kick off
a question, Doctor Daisiime. Welcome to the show, Superstar.
Speaker 8 (14:31):
Hi Zen, I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Hello everyone, Oh my goodness, it's so fabulous to have
you at iHeart Headquarters. I know that you made your
way all the way here to talk to us about
some of the more important topics that women are faced
with today and one of the most talked about celebrity
trends this year. We just covered this in the intro
is post ozepic plastic surgery. I would like to know
what your take on this trend is and how do
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you guide your patients who want to balance health benefits
with the physical changes that come from such medications. What
do you advise them?
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Well, you know o zimbiic craze came and just took
over the nation like a storm. Trends are not for everyone.
Just because it's trendy, and just because celebrities are doing
it and everyone is on top of it does not
mean it's for you. I would like for everyone to
kind of stop when this year trend and ask themselves, Okay,
I want to be part of this trend, but how
do I do it wisely? How do I do it healthy?
(15:25):
Let me ask more questions. Let me talk to my
physician or my surgeon to find out. So, now that
you have all this post zembic bodies that have caused
muscle wasting, cacactic looking excessive skin, you're stuck with this
appearance and you need something to kind of reverse it
or to help you get back to where you were.
I would have advised any patient. As a disclaimer, by
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the way, I don't offer exempic in my office or
any of those trendy stuff because I'm very big on
pursuing things in a healthy, natural way. Then once you
have the life time plays, then we do cosmetic.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Procedures or surgery.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
So if you're one of those people that have this
post ozembic results and you need solution, we have to
look at your muscle. How do we stimulate the muscle
to get it toned? And the excessive skin need to
be taken off, so you have to look at surgical
revision or radiofrequency to help tighten contract the skin so
you can kind of look like you were before. So
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all of that is available to you. However, like I said,
trend or not for everyone.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It's a double edged short. You take it, you lose
all kinds of weight. Now you have to spend all
kinds of money to fix yourself up again. Got it?
Really evaluate the fact, so kudos to you for not
offering it. And it's not within the scope of your
field now. Interestingly enough, in twenty twenty three, almost ten
million minimally invasive procedures were performed in the US. That
means a lot of people are looking for little tweaks
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that make them feel great. With the rise in minimally
invasive cosmetic procedures, how do you see these treatments impacting
women's self esteem and confidence, especially in professional environments.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Oh, I think is huge. It's huge. Not because women
are not confident. Women are very confident and comfortable with
what they are and what they're doing. It's just a
nice tweak to look and feel better. Right, Wrinkles are
going to happen, you know, Pigmentation is going to happen
as we age, So these nonsurgical procedures are available to
kind of restore that. So it's not taken away from
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your natural self or look an authentic self. It's just
enhancing the journey and that makes anyone feel great.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Now, let's chat mental wellness meets aesthetics. Okay, so your
podcast emphasizes the connection between mental health and beauty. How
does improving physical appearance through cosmetic surgery influence mental wellbeing
for your patients? And we're talking about truly influencing their
mental wellbeing, not just making them feel pretty in front
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of the mirror.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
You know. I think it's one of those things where
cosmetic surgery sometimes can be perceived as you know, you
should not get this done, you should do it in
a natural way. I feel that if you're pursuing things
the natural way, sometimes cosmetic surgery is part of that journey.
You know. Obviously start with just regular diete, eating well, exercising,
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and yes, there are sometimes you may not get the
results and you may need an extra assistance in the process.
So that's where cosmetic surgery comes in and just help alone.
If you have a mental illness or mental case that
should not be negated from just getting cosmetic surgery, you
may actually need assistance in that department separate from cosmetic surgery.
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So it's one of those things that during consultation as
a responsible surgeon, you look at the patient and make
sure that it's not something where it's only surgery if
she may need more than that, or he may need
more than that.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, and the term mommy makeover has spiked in Google
searches by thirty five percent over the past year, and
it seems more moms are looking to take care of
themselves post baby, balancing the joys of motherhood with feeling
their best. And I truly believe that postpartum is not
a joke. And a lot of these cosmetic procedures, whether
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minimally invasive or even you know, more more invasive, like
on the heavier side, if they're helping a woman get
back on her feet, feel good about herself, and helping
her in her self perception, I say go for it.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Yeah, I agree, mommy makeover is is a very personal,
endearing term. It can be very variable. What does mummy
makeover mean? I mean a woman. It could be addressed
in her breast postpartum, after breastfeeding, having multiple kids, the
breast is sagged and you know it's droopy and that
can happen. It could also be address in the abdomen
because postpartum, after you've had one multiple kids, you may
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have excessive skin that just doesn't retract back. And then
also the feminine era, you know, the LaBier era. Multiple
vaginal birth can cause that erar to change. So mummy
makeover is a very personal thing. You know, are we
talking about face, breast, body, or female genital as?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You do it all.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
I do it all. You e vagineoplasts as well. Absolutely,
I do it all. Yes, And it's very customizable. So
it's a general term, but when it comes down to
that woman, we have to get specific to what her
needs are, what her concern is, and then we kind
of craft up a plan from there.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
That's great, you are so multifaceted. Now let's shift to menopause.
So menopause affects roughly one and a half million women
in the US each year. But what's even more surprising
is that, like over ninety five percent of women feel
it's still not talked about enough, so especially in the workplace,
so we need more open conversations with menopause hitting headlines.
(20:37):
What are your top recommendations for women approaching the stage
in their life, particularly when it comes to balancing hormone
therapy with holistic approaches.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
Oh, my top three for women is number one, acceptance, Amen, right,
Then number two, do something if you have a symptom. Right.
I don't want you to feel like you're stuck and
you're alone, because no, the millions of women go and
through this, you know, talking to your female friends, talking
to your doctor, go online looking for resources. There are
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resources out there that can guide you and assist you
if you need it. Okay, so do something And then
the third one, have fun. You know, this part of
your life should not be something where you feel like
you were shrivel away and washed off and you're out
of the picture. No, this is you probably have another
forty years of your life now.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Empowering women in business is critical. I know that you
and I share a very similar ethos with our ecosystem
of women. But your podcast blends business and beauty, so seamlessly.
What advice would you give to women juggling high powered
careers all while maintaining that personal health and beauty routine.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
Yes, my number one advice to any woman is always
put yourself first. One of the things that I've seen
as a gynecologist in women's health space for over twenty
years is that women, especially when they're very busy, sometimes
don't put themselves first because you're needed in so many
different spaces and you're committed in those spaces because you
like to do well and excel in the craft that
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you are assigned. However, don't forget yourself along the way.
If it's motherhood you're raising your children, do not lose
yourself in that journey. If you're a career woman and
you're excelling the corporate leather, or you're a businesswoman, do
not lose yourself in that journey. So that's my number
one advice is to always put yourself first. And that's
going to look different for every woman. You know that
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woman first means that I take time to go to
the gym frequently, or first may mean that I take
time to just go away on a vacation, or first,
maybe I take time to just cook because I love
to cook and I will cook for myself in the family.
Whatever that first looks like for you, really protect it
because that's what you have the most.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Grad's great advice. Let's shift to the next topic, facial rejuvenation.
So last year twenty twenty three, botox and dermal fill
saw a twenty five percent jump. Now, these small but
impactful treatments can make a huge difference, as we said,
and the best part you can get them done over lunch.
So facial rejuvenation for professionals. So many women seek facial
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rejuvenation to remain competitive in high stakes careers. Right, what
are some trending procedures you recommend for that woman who
wants subtle but impactful changes. Because they're always in the
public eye. They are either keynote speakers, authors in front
of the camera. What do you say to them?
Speaker 8 (23:34):
I say, less is more, So some of the things
I consider less is more is like a chemical pill,
nothing harsh. You know, you can do a chemical pill
that's very superficial and you can get some grit results
with it, with pigmentation wrinkles if it does bother you.
You can also look into micronidolin like radiofrequency base. That's
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also a nice way to improve texture, complexion and just
overall skin tightening with it. And then you know, Filler's
is something that I say, if you use it, be
very mindful of it so that is not very noticeable
or overdone.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Thank you, doctor Daisy. It was a pleasure chatting with
you today and it was such a treat to have
you in the studio.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
My pleasure. Thank you for having me without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
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Zenzam's up next in the Phoenix Rising segment, highlighting transformational journeys,
brought to you by Chicago's Chicken Shack, nonprofit providing food
to the homeless. We're joined by regular contributor Anna Devere
and today she's joined by the incredible Lisa Kinselberg, a
fine artist based in Chicago. Her work is at Virgil
(25:52):
Catherine Gallery and is part of private collections across the US.
Her latest series, Cities of the World, pay homage to
the incredible cities that hold special meaning to her. Her
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at Scope Art Fair during Art Bosl Week in Miami
this upcoming December third to the eighth. With a mission
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to show people the world and reveal something deeper about ourselves.
They're going to join me today to chat all about
her mission as an artist, her upcoming gallery at Art Bosl,
and how she takes her viewers on.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
A transformational journey through her art.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Welcoming now to the show is the amazing Lisa Kinselberg
and Anna Deavere.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Welcome superstars.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
Thank you, thank you for having us.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
So excited to have you on. Lisa, I'm going to
dive right in, so let's start with your mission statement.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I'm an artist that takes my viewers on a transformational
journey to see our world as one humanity and experience
the awe of human beings.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Can you tell us how this became your core mission
as an artist?
Speaker 9 (26:53):
Thank you for asking. You know, so, when I say transformational,
I really believe great art should be something that you
can't unsee, so it kind of gets under your skin
and changes something about you. Also, I believe that great
art should take you out of your day to day
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and help you see the world a little bit differently.
And it might be the artist's world, it might be
something the artist is trying to portray. So I studied
philosophy in college. My thesis was Martin Heidegger's view of Art,
and he talked about van Go's shoes. It's a pair
of peasant shoes that van Go rendered, and you can
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just see, you know, the soil of the farmer. You
can see how deruct destructive all that labor was on
the shoes, and you get a glimpse into that person's
world and you take that back and think about your
own world. So it has to be profound in that way.
And when I say the awe of human being, I
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think that great art makes you feel awe and like
literally you feel something wash over you and almost like
an insight about who we are as people. The first
time I ever experienced that as an artist was actually
in high school. My art teacher had me submit work
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into a state wide art program and they portrayed on
a huge screen and a big auditorium a portrait of
one of my classmates, and I remember doing that portrait
and just kind of letting it flow, kind of accessing
my subconscious.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
If you will.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
I kind of turned my brain off and just did it.
And as an artist, when you do that, it transmits
into your work. And when they put that on the screen,
I'll never forget. I heard the audience gasp, and I
was eighteen years old, and I just kind of like
hid and slid down my scene. I said, I can't
believe you know, something I created in the world gave
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that reaction, and I knew then this is something I
need to continue to do.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That's beautiful. Clearly you understand the power and significance of art,
just even through that story, and you channel that into
your pieces. And art is so important not only for
your own self expression, right, but as you said, for
the purpose of unifying its viewers. And when you look
at the statistics, seventy two percent of Americans in fact
believe the arts unify our communities, regardless of age, race,
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and ethnicity, and seventy three percent believe the arts help
understand other cultures better. So I love that what you're
doing and more importantly, you're doing it with intention, and
intention matters because that's where the passion comes from. Now,
I know Anna has some questions, so I'll hand it
off to you.
Speaker 10 (29:49):
Yeah. I love this conversation ladies, and thank you Zen
for bringing that in about intention. And I know you
intend to go to art Basil. How exciting right as
it should be. But tell us a little bit about
the world. What is your what is your philosophy behind
your showing there?
Speaker 9 (30:04):
Thank you? Yes, My new series Cities of the World
really celebrates places we live, work, travel to. You know,
we're living in such like a rich, advanced, interconnected world.
Sometimes things can feel very much the same with technology,
no matter where you live or work. In these pieces
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that I do, each painting is of a particular city,
I really try to capture more of the history and
the character because each city kind of has a life
of its own. So and the awe of human being
comes in when you realize that, isn't it amazing the
metropolisies we've formed over the years, and how the places
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that we live work kind of take on a life
of their own. Like when you say Chicago or New
York or London, Tokyo, it has a meaning to you,
whether you've been there or want to go there. And
I think that's really incredible. The concept, the idea of
places we inhabit have that almost beingness, that otherness, and
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that's what I try to capture and paint.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Wow.
Speaker 10 (31:16):
And I have a little bit more information about you, Lisa,
but I want to share this as a Phoenix Rising
story because I know your journey. Would you just share
the turning point for you because you went from businesswomen
to parent to celebrated artist. What was that catalyst?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Thank you?
Speaker 9 (31:31):
I mean, I actually remember the moment. I was a
stay at home mom full time and I was doing
the dishes, thinking I am just not happy is my
I didn't really have anything to look forward to. I
wasn't feeling challenged. There's nothing wrong with what I was doing.
I enjoyed it for so long, but I was really
feeling my relationships were suffering within my family. I think,
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you know, you can just tell when something's just not
igniting you inside. I was always creative and artistic in
my life, and I had secondary outlets, you know, decorating
my home or cooking. I try to find other ways,
but I knew I really needed to get back to
kind of what made me tick and really what my
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purpose was in the world, all the way back to
in high school when people were affected by my art.
I knew that was kind of the main what I
could do best in the world. And I kind of
told my husband, I'm getting a studio. I kind of
don't care what you think or feel. I have to
do this, and I just did it. I went on
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the road, found a space within like maybe a few weeks,
and that's been a complete game changer because I don't
have any distractions. I can focus on my practice. It's
in a very diverse, cool area that's inspiring to me.
In downtown Chicago. I'm meeting interesting people. I'm there five
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to six days a week. I bring collector and you know,
hotel design firms coming, different people are able to see
my work. So it's enabled me to level up my
career in so many ways.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
That's a great journey. And I'm sure lots of people
and when I see when I see people, I mean
lots of women feel that it's not easy to reinvent
when you're a mother or a certain age, but you've
broken down that stereotype completely. So congratulations now I'd love
to know what advice would you give to those who
are feeling empty, trapped, maybe even that the wheels are
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coming off of their life.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
You know, first of all, I think age is an
advantage because you have more skills and resources, you have
more confidence to make things happen. It's funny you ask that,
because a lot of people in my community ask or
tell me it's so easy for you. You have a talent.
I wish I had a talent, But really, at the
end of the day, I think it goes back to
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again that story of affecting others. I think if people
think about where you've helped others, you've made an impact.
I think we all have an ability to do that
in some way just being who you are. I think
that's where you start. My mom, for example, she's like
my hero. She was a stay home mom and then
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she ended up going into technology sales. She hates technology,
she knows nothing about it.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
She would throw a computer at.
Speaker 9 (34:26):
The wall if she could, and she's really not a
salesy type person. But she is a nurturer. That's her
fundamental gift to the world. And she built this rock
star team that was able to hit these amazing financial targets,
and she's helped so many people in their careers because
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she's a nurturer. That is her gift. And then I
also think about my nephew. I mean, he's younger in
his life. He's in college now. He found a field
that really resonated with him, which is biomedical engineering. He
wants to help people who you know, need prosthetics or
have some other medical issue, so he's studying engineerings. So
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he found a field where he can help others. So
I think when you start with where you can make
a difference, it all falls into place.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Well we are officially officially at a time, but you
are so transparent and inspiring. I can't thank you enough
for coming on. And it went from an art session
to a therapy session.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
I love great advice.
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Thank you, you go together.
Speaker 9 (35:32):
Thank you for having me.
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That was the incredible.
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Lisa Kinselberg fine artist based in Chicago. Definitely head to
her website at Lisa Kinselberg art dot com and check
her out on the ground at Lisa Kinselberg to stay
up to date with her latest collections like Cities of
the World, and you don't want to miss her artwork
at art Boslweek in Miami this upcoming December through the eighth,
and of course, check out Anna on the Ground at
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Sam's up next in the Hydration with Heart segment, brought
to you by Once Upon a Coconut. In the Expert
on the Microphone series, we have two incredibly inspiring guests
who are here to shed light on a condition many
of us may have never heard of, but is considered
one of the most painful medical conditions, trigeminal neualgia, otherwise
referred to as the suicide disease. First joining us is
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the incredible doctor Mark Linsky. He's a renowned neurosurgeon and
advocate for facial pain disorders. He has dedicated his career
to helping those suffering from conditions like ten and has
performed life changing surgeries to alleviate the suffering of his patients.
We're honored to have his expertise today as we explore
this condition and the complexities surrounding it. We're also joined
by Kathleen Klein. She's an advocate for trigeminal neualgia and
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founder of Face Forward, an organization dedicated to raising awareness
for TEN and other facial pain disorders. Kathleen's story is
nothing short of inspiring. She's lived with this excruciating condition
for over eleven years and has turned her personal battle
into a mission to advocate for others who face the
same silent, deadly struggle. Today, we'll be hearing about her
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expertise and her experience and the work that she's doing
to bring awareness to this silent crisis. Welcoming now to
the show is the incredible doctor Mark Lynsky and TN
advocate Kathleen Klein. Welcome, superstars. Thank you so much for
having me.
Speaker 11 (38:19):
Great to be here.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Thank you so much, Doctor Linsky. It's hard to fathom
the kind of pain described by TEN sufferers like Kathleen,
the fact that a misfire of the trigeminal nerve can
cause such agony staggering. So can you explain to our
listeners what exactly causes trigeminal neuralgia? Why is it that
this nerve pain in particular can cast such intense pain.
Speaker 11 (38:41):
Well, absolutely, in less than five percent of cases that
trigobleurologica can be caused by something pathologic that you would
see on magnetic resonance image such as multiple sclerosis or
a tumor or assist or an abnormal blood vessel or
collection of blood vessels. But in ninety five percent of
the time it is caused by one or more normal
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bloods coming in contact with the nerve root in the
crawl space between the brain stem and the skull and
causing compression, erosion of the insulation of the nerve, and
triggering of the pain finders. The reason it's so severe
and so difficult in the face is that the trigeminal nerve,
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which provides sensation to the face on each side, is
the largest sensory nerve in the human body, and it's
exquisitely sensitive to facial pain disorders.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Wow, that sounds very complex, especially to diagnose and more importantly,
to address. Kathleen, You've described trigeminal neuraja as being akin
to lightening strikes to the face, and I can't imagine
how living with this daily impacts your life. What's more
remarkable is that despite this you have managed to become
a powerful advocate for others. You've built Face Forward to
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help raise awareness and support, turning your personal pain into
a public mission. What is inspired you to start Face forward,
and how has the support that you've received from the
community shape your vision to be honest.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
When I was first diagnosed with tragiamomorologia, I faced some
very dark and scary times. I was newly remarried, I.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Was a mom of four young children.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
I was eighteen years into a career that I absolutely loved,
and now I was struck with this new condition, and
it was it was life changing, and I really lost
myself in that, and I just kept wanting to go back,
and I spent a lot of years alone in that.
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Then I realized, through my faith mostly that I needed
to stop looking back and face forward. I needed to
find purpose and I still had that passion of helping
others burning inside of me. So I learned to pivot
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and that's how Face Forward was born. Because you know,
living in today's world, whether you're dealing with chronic pain,
mental health issues, lost, you know, there's a myriad of
challenges we face every day. There are so many people
that suffer alone in silence.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
You're right now, Kathleen. You've spoken about the immense financial
and emotional burdens that ten suffers face, and it's something
that many chronic patients endure. You've been through two brain
surgeries yourself and countless procedures and an overwhelming number of treatments. So,
given the challenges you have faced and seeking relief, can
you talk about your experiences with surgery and treatment and
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how you've balanced the mental and emotional hurdles with this condition.
Speaker 11 (41:47):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
So luckily I was diagnosed quickly, and I say that
because it does take sometimes people years to get diagnosed,
and I had gone through many medications, different treatments.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
I had my first brain surgery. It did not work.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
It brought on more pain, more chronic migraines. I did
a lot of research. I found doctor Lynsky. I quickly
realized that he was my doctor and I would not
want to put my brain in anyone else's hands. So
I had gotten a second brain surgery was him, but
my case was a little more complicated. I had other
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neurologies as well, so he did a redo and it
was very extensive.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
It was a very complicated case.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
So he did help take away that electrocution type pain,
but I still have the constant pain where you feel
that you have I liken it to like an iron
on your face you feel.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
So my pain level.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Is around a five every day and it will just
vary depending on the weather, if I'm talking too much,
if I'm not sleeping, the food I'm eating.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
So it sounds like it's hard to really manage, and
I want to ask doctor Linsky. This ten, to my research,
doesn't just come with its intense pain. It's also one
of the most difficult conditions to treat, and especially after
sharing both of you speak right now. So current treatments,
including surgeries like microvascularity compression, are not always permanent solutions,
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and many patients like Kathleen still suffer to her point
despite these multiple interventions. And historically there have been many
limitations in current treatments for TAN, but there are emerging
therapies that offer hope. So what advancements in your medical
research or emerging treatments offer the most promise for patients
with TAN and how do they differ from the traditional
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surgical approaches.
Speaker 11 (43:50):
Well, initial therapy for this condition is usually medical in
terms of therapy medications and convulsant medications, anti seizure medications,
and there are new ones coming all the time. The
problem is that they only temporize and this is a
progressive syndrome. The most effective treatment, and by and large,
I mean without question, is addressing the cause of the syndrome,
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the vascular compression on the nerve, and that's the microvascular
decompression the MBD that you just described, and it is
potentially de surative, not just a long term solution, but
potentially a forever solution in proper surgical hands. The occurrence
rate is only ten percent ten to twenty years. But
there are other procedures that can be done on it,
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but they're generally palliative. That means that they address the symptom,
not the cause of the problem, and as a result,
they tend to have a high recurrence rate in a
progressive syndrome. There are also other procedures that implant electrodes
to try and stimulate the Perferle branches or the motor
cortex or the deep brain to try and fool the
brain into thinking you're not in pain, but those also
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are not permanent solutions. By far and away, the best
solution is a well done MBD done by a surgeon
very experienced and skilled in it as the first intervention
that gives your best chance of not having a typical
neurologic pain and having a permanent solution going through.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
It sounds like if you do it wrong from the onset,
you've opened up Pandora's box and then it's hard to
reseal that. So the first, the first intervention is key.
And unfortunately, to my understanding, she was your second beacon
of hope. Right, well, you're in good hands now now
you have become a beacon of hope for many people
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facing similar conditions despite your ongoing struggle, and we know
that this past October seventh was International Tribegeminal Neurology Awareness Day,
and your efforts to awareness have been tremendous. Kathleen, I
commend you. What do you hope to accomplish on a
larger scale as an advocate for TAN sufferers? I guess
I just.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
Really I want the world to know more about trigeminal
neurologia because it is so very rare, and as with
any other invisible illness, you look like you are okay,
and people often say, well, you look good, but they
don't realize the pain, the excruciating pain that you can feel.
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So and unless you do feel it, or you witness
someone who has felt it. You don't believe that a
pain can truly exist and not kill you. So most
days are filled with uncertainty because you don't know what's
going to happen from day to day, from hour to hour,
and the pain is unpredictable.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
So you may be able to.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
Do something you know at one time, but you'll suffer
for days after, or if you're able to do that
one thing, you may not be able to do it again.
So I just I really want to encourage people to
be patient and compassion passionate, show kindness to us because
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we really are trying our best with something that is
very rare and is very scary to us.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Sounds like you're dealing with a rollercoaster of emotions, symptoms,
and even consequences. Kathleen, you're doing a great job at
managing it all, doctor Linsky. Given the fact that TN
can be misdiagnosed for years, and as you mentioned earlier,
finding the right treatment early on is critical. What are
some of the early signs of TN that patients and
primary care physicians more importantly might overlook, and how can
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we improve the diagnostic process to reduce the number of
misdiagnosed or undiagnosed cases.
Speaker 11 (47:38):
The vast majority of trajungle around to patients when they
have the problem think they have a problem with their teeth,
and they go to denis first. In fact, fifty percent
of trijungle RAULDA patients have unnecessary dental procedures, including root
canals and dental extractions trying to get rid of the
pain because the primary care doctor thinks us a dental issue.
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The denist thinks it's a dental issue, but it's not.
That's the biggest mistaken issue out there in terms of
getting people to correct diagnosis. It is such an orphan
disease affecting only six point five patients per one hundred
thousand per year that most primary tear physicians, most denis,
even most neurologists have never seen a case, and so
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getting it diagnosed properly and getting it treated properly with
the right ani CONVULCIONT medication at least initially takes a
long time, and the patients are horribly suffering until that
diagnosis is finally made, and then the delay to get
to a neurosurgeon. The average Board certified neurosurgencies only one
to two of these patients every three years. Wow, that
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is not going to lead to expertise, it's not going
to lead to correct diagnosis, it's not even going to
lead to a significant experience with the surgeries for this condition.
That means that even the neurosurgeons who have a lot
of experience with this very few in number. We're maybe
six to twelve in the whole US, And trying to
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get to those neurosurgeons in modern healthcare situations where your
panel of providers is strictly limited is extremely hard. Wow.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
And Kathleen, I mean, your personal experience and advocacy work
have shown just how isolating and devastating ten can be. However,
through Face Forward, you've helped build a community of support
and that should be so rewarding for you. So what
advice would you give to others who are going through this,
Not how the community should be treating them, but the
ones who are actually going through this and feel like
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they're alone in their pain? How can Face Forward help
them find support and hope.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
So, to go off of what doctor Lynsky had said,
you really need to do your research and be your
own advocate. And that is why I went all the
way to California from New York to see him because
he was he is an expert, but just as someone
who's suffering, you just you need to learn to give
you self praise and because the fear and failure and
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despair and guilt can really take.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Grip of you.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
And I it took me a long time to realize this,
that we don't need to sit in silence alone with this.
I think the biggest thing is embracing your journey trying
to spread positivity because the world desperately needs that. And
it's more of a platform where we can connect with
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others and we might be facing different challenges, but the
bottom line is we're better together and if we're together,
we can get through anything, no matter what we're facing.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
And with that, we are officially out of time. I
want to thank you both as we wrap up today's segment.
I thank you both doctor Linsky and Kathleen for sharing
your time, your expertise, and your powerful story with us today.
Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 11 (50:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
That was a good doctor, doctor Mark, and that was
the incredible Kathleen Klein, trigeminal neuralgia advocate and founder of
Face Forward, an organization dedicated to raising awareness for TN
and other facial pain disorders. You could head to always
Faceforward dot com and check her out on the ground
at always Face FWD. You're listening to a Moment of
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Upon a Coconut. Today, we're featuring Brian Kordovitch. He's a
powerhouse in the world of sports and entertainment. He's best
(03:53):
known as the founder of Aces, a brand that's rapidly
rewriting the script on what it means to connect sports, music,
and culture. His journey from Cleveland to playing basketball professionally
around the Globe and ultimately founding ACES is one of
pure grit and relentless vision, from street courts to partnering
with icons like Nike and NBA. Two K Brian is
(04:15):
more than just a businessman. He's a game changer with
a message of ambition and universal connection. Welcoming now to
the show is the amazing founder of ASS Brian.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Welcome, superstar, Thank you, Zan. I appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I'm gonna have to have you introduce me every time
I come out on a platform.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, listen, this is exciting to have you on.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I'm going to go into some statistics here, but according
to recent studies, over seventy percent of Americans report struggling
to find purpose in their daily lives. So with that
kind of existential struggle, the concept of hustle and heart
speaks to a huge audience in a very profound way. Now,
(04:55):
your brand ACES champions this idea of hustle and heart.
It's an ethol that's touched millions. How did that philosophy
become so central to your story? And what message are
you hoping resonates most with people facing inversity.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
Sure, I have to take a few steps back. I
think in life it's all ball purpose and finding your
inner piece. So with that you have to chase your
passion and dreams. So before Brand Aces, there was Smoking Aces.
You know, playing professional basketball. I did the best I could.
Always had big dreams and not visions of one day
playing in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
It wasn't a straight forward path. It was not linear.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
You know, got a chance to play professionally Kuwait, Italy, Israel, France,
the Dominican Republic, got drafted in the NBA G League.
I had a couple try out to the New York
Knicks and Brooklyn Nets. But really set me apart was
playing at Rutger Park up in harle And that's where
the nickname Smoking Aces came about. You don't have that
storybook division one career. You have to figure out somewhere somehow.
(05:47):
So what did was I used the streets of New
York City, especially the legendary ebc Rucker Park, and after
one summer of not playing, went back there. So from
every racial white nickname you could think of to Nicholas
Shade in ninety eight degrees, I dropped up fifty points
one game and it went to Smoking Aces, and I
remember after I asked the guys why and the mic,
I'm like, why smoking Aces? They said, the Ace is
(06:09):
the best car in the deck and you were smoking
the brothers. It's legendary to me growing up in Cleveland,
I knew what playing at that park meant. So that
got me all my tryouts in the league, and then
from that come back that following summer give my own
team end up leading the Rucker and scoring first time
a person of the stature has done that. And what
came with that was shoe deals from and one K
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one X and kind of storytelling throughout New York City
rooted in the origin of Rucker Park. What happened was
the day before Summer League twenty sixteen, I go back
to the bend my scoring title. What happens, I rupture
my achilles, So again setbacks right. I saw the impact
that my story had in basketball, so I dropped smoking Aces,
turn it into brand Aces, and started building this brand
(06:51):
platform backwards in basketball, sports and music through events, collaborations
and with athletes and in major brands.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Wow, that's amazing. What were the key moments that made
you realize that basketball could be more than just a
game and that it could be a lifelong career and
even a way to impact communities on a larger scale.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
I think the people a few things. The people you
meet through the game, you know, relationships, network, getting connections,
and just the disciplines that you meet through the game
right the daily you know, Brian working out, keeping your
body in shape, you know, physically, spiritually, mentally, it transforms
into what I'm doing now.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
So it's a big ecosystem.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
I think it's the biggest marketable sport in the world
because you know, people are wearing helmets or hats, so
it's the most successible for any you know, person up
in Harlem, in Cleveland, Ohio, in Miami, or in North Dakota.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
So it's a.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Universal game where anybody can go pick them and play
a ball. So I think being blessed to be able
to play the game and stay rooted in.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Basketball has been a universal connectivity. Ya ass. You know
is kind of taken off in the.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Space influencer marketing. Let's shift a little bit because that
seems to be at the heart of a lot of
what you're doing, especially in sports. So influencer marketing in
sports is projected to each twenty two and a half
billion dollars by twenty twenty five. Brian, So it's big business,
but authenticity is key, and you seem to capture that
with aces. So you collaborate with iconic athletes and celebrities
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from PJ. Tucker to Justin Bieber. How do you choose
partnerships that align with your brand's ethos of hustle and
heart and what's the secret to keeping that authenticity?
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Great question.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
I think you got this. Disney came to Flip from
playing basketball. Like I said, the way it was built,
it wasn't forced. We didn't pay anybody to ever be
a part of our stuff. I think it's number one,
people like to play basketball, and number two, I had
a lot of personal relations to the athletes started rocking
the brand slowly over the year, from PJ. Tucker to
Justin Bieber, to KD to Sue Bird to Asia Wilson.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
And once they start seeing what that logo.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
They may not knew what the brand was and they
saw the logo, but they saw the logo everywhere, and
then once they saw the storytelling behind it. I think
my background I may have not made it to the NBA,
but I think the impact and the platform that we
give these athletes to tell their stories is resonating not
only the athletes, but the culture and the space. And
most recently be tapped into music and created a track
with Dave easton Maino. So RUST be able to bridge
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out and reach all diboital touch points of culture.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
It has been special and we'll just have to keep
this going.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
There's an estimated three point five million kids playing high
school basketball in the US dreaming of going pro. Though
less than zero points zero two percent make it okay,
So the odds are stacked. But programs like ace's Elite
Classic and Hustle Heart they offer crucial opportunities. And for
these young athletes facing staggering odds, how does ACES aim
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to provide not just a showcase but also a pathway
to something bigger.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
It's more than a game.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
I'm I'm glad you asked that the AC League class
which is our McDonald's type All American Games individual All Stars.
And the unique one about that is not just seniors
like most of these All American Games, it's freshmen two seniors.
The cold bar about this is they only when they
become McDonald's All Americans they come back to ACES because
our media reach, our exposure are our streaming deals with
(10:01):
Amazon and the NBA app it It just puts these
guys in places that they may not have been seen
as freshmen. So for them to not only come up
this ranks and for ACES to get in the platform
means a lot of will continue to do so.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
It's not just about the top guys, that the underdogs
as well.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
So we reach we think all spectrums with now the
ACES League Classic, but most recently, which you guys attended
the Hospital Hart Classic, which features the top teams in
the country on the boys and girls side as well.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You're doing something amazing. Now let's look at some statistics.
Seventy percent of people say they would buy from a
brand they feel aligns with their values, and ACES has
created a brand that resonates deeply with values of ambition, resilience,
and connectivity. I know for a fact that your brand
is built on storytelling. What narrative are you most committed
(10:46):
to sharing through Aces and how does it reflect your
personal journey from basketball courts to boardrooms?
Speaker 6 (10:53):
No great question.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
I think people buy by the related and they connect
the story. So if you can tell that in authentic way,
which we have over the years. Everyone's like, why didn't
you start with the peril?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Right, because I'm answering your statistical question.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
I'm like, let me build the story, let me build
the community, let me build the social equity in the
marketplace and online. And once people feel that that's storytelling
of there want to they want to touch the physical products.
So that's why we built this brand platform back wheres
most brands, you know, start with the peril and then
go do other stuff. We're like, now, let's build a community,
let's build strong IP, Let's create the strong narrative and
stay authentic to what we're doing in align with global
(11:26):
brand partners. And from then, I think the consumers of
buy anything because they really believe in the founder, with
the brand and what the product stands for.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Oh, I love everything you said. Well, we are officially
at the end of our time. I want to thank
you so much for joining us today and your story
of resilience, grit and the unstoppable drive to turn adversity
into opportunity is inspiring and aces, my dear, It's a
testament to what can be built with hustle and heart.
So for those listening, let Brian's journey. Be a reminder
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no matter where you start the impact, the impact you
make is different by the ambition and authenticity you bring
along the way. Brian, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Zen, I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Thank you Until next time, Keep striving, keep dreaming, and
stay hydrated with heart. This is Zen. Sam's on A
Moment of Zen's on seven to ten WOI, the Voice
of New york iHeartRadio. Definitely check out Brian on the
Gram at Smokin' Aces number one and you could head
to brandaces dot com and definitely check out Aces on
Instagram at Aces a Cess. We'll be right back after this.
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She brings a wealth of knowledge from her Polished Beauty podcast,
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of New York. Today, we're going to be covering top
trends in women's health, cosmetic surgery, and empowerment with a
focus on what's resonating most with women today. Interestingly enough,
a currently trending and somewhat controversial procedure making waves in
twenty twenty four is post ozembic plastic surgery, which has
been highly publicized, especially amongst celebrities. This particular trend emerged
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as many high profile and individuals and regular patients started
using ozembic and other GLP one medications for rapid weight loss.
You guys remember seeing this all over the tabloids. The
dramatic weight loss caused by these medications often leads to
excess skin and volume loss in areas like the face
and body, prompting this increased demand for procedures like facial
(14:19):
rejuvenation and body conjuring to tighten that skin and restore
loss volume. Doctor daisy Iim is here to pipe in
on what is trending, So we're going to kick off
a question, Doctor Daisiime. Welcome to the show, Superstar.
Speaker 8 (14:31):
Hi Zen, I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Hello everyone, Oh my goodness, it's so fabulous to have
you at iHeart Headquarters. I know that you made your
way all the way here to talk to us about
some of the more important topics that women are faced
with today and one of the most talked about celebrity
trends this year. We just covered this in the intro
is post ozepic plastic surgery. I would like to know
what your take on this trend is and how do
(14:55):
you guide your patients who want to balance health benefits
with the physical changes that come from such medications. What
do you advise them?
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Well, you know o zimbiic craze came and just took
over the nation like a storm. Trends are not for everyone.
Just because it's trendy, and just because celebrities are doing
it and everyone is on top of it does not
mean it's for you. I would like for everyone to
kind of stop when this year trend and ask themselves, Okay,
I want to be part of this trend, but how
do I do it wisely? How do I do it healthy?
(15:25):
Let me ask more questions. Let me talk to my
physician or my surgeon to find out. So, now that
you have all this post zembic bodies that have caused
muscle wasting, cacactic looking excessive skin, you're stuck with this
appearance and you need something to kind of reverse it
or to help you get back to where you were.
I would have advised any patient. As a disclaimer, by
(15:48):
the way, I don't offer exempic in my office or
any of those trendy stuff because I'm very big on
pursuing things in a healthy, natural way. Then once you
have the life time plays, then we do cosmetic.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Procedures or surgery.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
So if you're one of those people that have this
post ozembic results and you need solution, we have to
look at your muscle. How do we stimulate the muscle
to get it toned? And the excessive skin need to
be taken off, so you have to look at surgical
revision or radiofrequency to help tighten contract the skin so
you can kind of look like you were before. So
(16:25):
all of that is available to you. However, like I said,
trend or not for everyone.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It's a double edged short. You take it, you lose
all kinds of weight. Now you have to spend all
kinds of money to fix yourself up again. Got it?
Really evaluate the fact, so kudos to you for not
offering it. And it's not within the scope of your
field now. Interestingly enough, in twenty twenty three, almost ten
million minimally invasive procedures were performed in the US. That
means a lot of people are looking for little tweaks
(16:52):
that make them feel great. With the rise in minimally
invasive cosmetic procedures, how do you see these treatments impacting
women's self esteem and confidence, especially in professional environments.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Oh, I think is huge. It's huge. Not because women
are not confident. Women are very confident and comfortable with
what they are and what they're doing. It's just a
nice tweak to look and feel better. Right, Wrinkles are
going to happen, you know, Pigmentation is going to happen
as we age, So these nonsurgical procedures are available to
kind of restore that. So it's not taken away from
(17:27):
your natural self or look an authentic self. It's just
enhancing the journey and that makes anyone feel great.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Now, let's chat mental wellness meets aesthetics. Okay, so your
podcast emphasizes the connection between mental health and beauty. How
does improving physical appearance through cosmetic surgery influence mental wellbeing
for your patients? And we're talking about truly influencing their
mental wellbeing, not just making them feel pretty in front
(17:54):
of the mirror.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
You know. I think it's one of those things where
cosmetic surgery sometimes can be perceived as you know, you
should not get this done, you should do it in
a natural way. I feel that if you're pursuing things
the natural way, sometimes cosmetic surgery is part of that journey.
You know. Obviously start with just regular diete, eating well, exercising,
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and yes, there are sometimes you may not get the
results and you may need an extra assistance in the process.
So that's where cosmetic surgery comes in and just help alone.
If you have a mental illness or mental case that
should not be negated from just getting cosmetic surgery, you
may actually need assistance in that department separate from cosmetic surgery.
(18:37):
So it's one of those things that during consultation as
a responsible surgeon, you look at the patient and make
sure that it's not something where it's only surgery if
she may need more than that, or he may need
more than that.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, and the term mommy makeover has spiked in Google
searches by thirty five percent over the past year, and
it seems more moms are looking to take care of
themselves post baby, balancing the joys of motherhood with feeling
their best. And I truly believe that postpartum is not
a joke. And a lot of these cosmetic procedures, whether
(19:08):
minimally invasive or even you know, more more invasive, like
on the heavier side, if they're helping a woman get
back on her feet, feel good about herself, and helping
her in her self perception, I say go for it.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Yeah, I agree, mommy makeover is is a very personal,
endearing term. It can be very variable. What does mummy
makeover mean? I mean a woman. It could be addressed
in her breast postpartum, after breastfeeding, having multiple kids, the
breast is sagged and you know it's droopy and that
can happen. It could also be address in the abdomen
because postpartum, after you've had one multiple kids, you may
(19:43):
have excessive skin that just doesn't retract back. And then
also the feminine era, you know, the LaBier era. Multiple
vaginal birth can cause that erar to change. So mummy
makeover is a very personal thing. You know, are we
talking about face, breast, body, or female genital as?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You do it all.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
I do it all. You e vagineoplasts as well. Absolutely,
I do it all. Yes, And it's very customizable. So
it's a general term, but when it comes down to
that woman, we have to get specific to what her
needs are, what her concern is, and then we kind
of craft up a plan from there.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
That's great, you are so multifaceted. Now let's shift to menopause.
So menopause affects roughly one and a half million women
in the US each year. But what's even more surprising
is that, like over ninety five percent of women feel
it's still not talked about enough, so especially in the workplace,
so we need more open conversations with menopause hitting headlines.
(20:37):
What are your top recommendations for women approaching the stage
in their life, particularly when it comes to balancing hormone
therapy with holistic approaches.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
Oh, my top three for women is number one, acceptance, Amen, right,
Then number two, do something if you have a symptom. Right.
I don't want you to feel like you're stuck and
you're alone, because no, the millions of women go and
through this, you know, talking to your female friends, talking
to your doctor, go online looking for resources. There are
(21:07):
resources out there that can guide you and assist you
if you need it. Okay, so do something And then
the third one, have fun. You know, this part of
your life should not be something where you feel like
you were shrivel away and washed off and you're out
of the picture. No, this is you probably have another
forty years of your life now.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Empowering women in business is critical. I know that you
and I share a very similar ethos with our ecosystem
of women. But your podcast blends business and beauty, so seamlessly.
What advice would you give to women juggling high powered
careers all while maintaining that personal health and beauty routine.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
Yes, my number one advice to any woman is always
put yourself first. One of the things that I've seen
as a gynecologist in women's health space for over twenty
years is that women, especially when they're very busy, sometimes
don't put themselves first because you're needed in so many
different spaces and you're committed in those spaces because you
like to do well and excel in the craft that
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you are assigned. However, don't forget yourself along the way.
If it's motherhood you're raising your children, do not lose
yourself in that journey. If you're a career woman and
you're excelling the corporate leather, or you're a businesswoman, do
not lose yourself in that journey. So that's my number
one advice is to always put yourself first. And that's
going to look different for every woman. You know that
(22:31):
woman first means that I take time to go to
the gym frequently, or first may mean that I take
time to just go away on a vacation, or first,
maybe I take time to just cook because I love
to cook and I will cook for myself in the family.
Whatever that first looks like for you, really protect it
because that's what you have the most.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Grad's great advice. Let's shift to the next topic, facial rejuvenation.
So last year twenty twenty three, botox and dermal fill
saw a twenty five percent jump. Now, these small but
impactful treatments can make a huge difference, as we said,
and the best part you can get them done over lunch.
So facial rejuvenation for professionals. So many women seek facial
(23:13):
rejuvenation to remain competitive in high stakes careers. Right, what
are some trending procedures you recommend for that woman who
wants subtle but impactful changes. Because they're always in the
public eye. They are either keynote speakers, authors in front
of the camera. What do you say to them?
Speaker 8 (23:34):
I say, less is more, So some of the things
I consider less is more is like a chemical pill,
nothing harsh. You know, you can do a chemical pill
that's very superficial and you can get some grit results
with it, with pigmentation wrinkles if it does bother you.
You can also look into micronidolin like radiofrequency base. That's
(23:54):
also a nice way to improve texture, complexion and just
overall skin tightening with it. And then you know, Filler's
is something that I say, if you use it, be
very mindful of it so that is not very noticeable
or overdone.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Thank you, doctor Daisy. It was a pleasure chatting with
you today and it was such a treat to have
you in the studio.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
My pleasure. Thank you for having me without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
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and today she's joined by the incredible Lisa Kinselberg, a
fine artist based in Chicago. Her work is at Virgil
(25:52):
Catherine Gallery and is part of private collections across the US.
Her latest series, Cities of the World, pay homage to
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They're going to join me today to chat all about
her mission as an artist, her upcoming gallery at Art Bosl,
and how she takes her viewers on.
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A transformational journey through her art.
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Thank you, thank you for having us.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
So excited to have you on. Lisa, I'm going to
dive right in, so let's start with your mission statement.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I'm an artist that takes my viewers on a transformational
journey to see our world as one humanity and experience
the awe of human beings.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Can you tell us how this became your core mission
as an artist?
Speaker 9 (26:53):
Thank you for asking. You know, so, when I say transformational,
I really believe great art should be something that you
can't unsee, so it kind of gets under your skin
and changes something about you. Also, I believe that great
art should take you out of your day to day
(27:15):
and help you see the world a little bit differently.
And it might be the artist's world, it might be
something the artist is trying to portray. So I studied
philosophy in college. My thesis was Martin Heidegger's view of Art,
and he talked about van Go's shoes. It's a pair
of peasant shoes that van Go rendered, and you can
(27:37):
just see, you know, the soil of the farmer. You
can see how deruct destructive all that labor was on
the shoes, and you get a glimpse into that person's
world and you take that back and think about your
own world. So it has to be profound in that way.
And when I say the awe of human being, I
(27:59):
think that great art makes you feel awe and like
literally you feel something wash over you and almost like
an insight about who we are as people. The first
time I ever experienced that as an artist was actually
in high school. My art teacher had me submit work
(28:22):
into a state wide art program and they portrayed on
a huge screen and a big auditorium a portrait of
one of my classmates, and I remember doing that portrait
and just kind of letting it flow, kind of accessing
my subconscious.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
If you will.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
I kind of turned my brain off and just did it.
And as an artist, when you do that, it transmits
into your work. And when they put that on the screen,
I'll never forget. I heard the audience gasp, and I
was eighteen years old, and I just kind of like
hid and slid down my scene. I said, I can't
believe you know, something I created in the world gave
(29:02):
that reaction, and I knew then this is something I
need to continue to do.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That's beautiful. Clearly you understand the power and significance of art,
just even through that story, and you channel that into
your pieces. And art is so important not only for
your own self expression, right, but as you said, for
the purpose of unifying its viewers. And when you look
at the statistics, seventy two percent of Americans in fact
believe the arts unify our communities, regardless of age, race,
(29:33):
and ethnicity, and seventy three percent believe the arts help
understand other cultures better. So I love that what you're
doing and more importantly, you're doing it with intention, and
intention matters because that's where the passion comes from. Now,
I know Anna has some questions, so I'll hand it
off to you.
Speaker 10 (29:49):
Yeah. I love this conversation ladies, and thank you Zen
for bringing that in about intention. And I know you
intend to go to art Basil. How exciting right as
it should be. But tell us a little bit about
the world. What is your what is your philosophy behind
your showing there?
Speaker 9 (30:04):
Thank you? Yes, My new series Cities of the World
really celebrates places we live, work, travel to. You know,
we're living in such like a rich, advanced, interconnected world.
Sometimes things can feel very much the same with technology,
no matter where you live or work. In these pieces
(30:26):
that I do, each painting is of a particular city,
I really try to capture more of the history and
the character because each city kind of has a life
of its own. So and the awe of human being
comes in when you realize that, isn't it amazing the
metropolisies we've formed over the years, and how the places
(30:51):
that we live work kind of take on a life
of their own. Like when you say Chicago or New
York or London, Tokyo, it has a meaning to you,
whether you've been there or want to go there. And
I think that's really incredible. The concept, the idea of
places we inhabit have that almost beingness, that otherness, and
(31:13):
that's what I try to capture and paint.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Wow.
Speaker 10 (31:16):
And I have a little bit more information about you, Lisa,
but I want to share this as a Phoenix Rising
story because I know your journey. Would you just share
the turning point for you because you went from businesswomen
to parent to celebrated artist. What was that catalyst?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Thank you?
Speaker 9 (31:31):
I mean, I actually remember the moment. I was a
stay at home mom full time and I was doing
the dishes, thinking I am just not happy is my
I didn't really have anything to look forward to. I
wasn't feeling challenged. There's nothing wrong with what I was doing.
I enjoyed it for so long, but I was really
feeling my relationships were suffering within my family. I think,
(31:54):
you know, you can just tell when something's just not
igniting you inside. I was always creative and artistic in
my life, and I had secondary outlets, you know, decorating
my home or cooking. I try to find other ways,
but I knew I really needed to get back to
kind of what made me tick and really what my
(32:15):
purpose was in the world, all the way back to
in high school when people were affected by my art.
I knew that was kind of the main what I
could do best in the world. And I kind of
told my husband, I'm getting a studio. I kind of
don't care what you think or feel. I have to
do this, and I just did it. I went on
(32:36):
the road, found a space within like maybe a few weeks,
and that's been a complete game changer because I don't
have any distractions. I can focus on my practice. It's
in a very diverse, cool area that's inspiring to me.
In downtown Chicago. I'm meeting interesting people. I'm there five
(32:56):
to six days a week. I bring collector and you know,
hotel design firms coming, different people are able to see
my work. So it's enabled me to level up my
career in so many ways.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
That's a great journey. And I'm sure lots of people
and when I see when I see people, I mean
lots of women feel that it's not easy to reinvent
when you're a mother or a certain age, but you've
broken down that stereotype completely. So congratulations now I'd love
to know what advice would you give to those who
are feeling empty, trapped, maybe even that the wheels are
(33:33):
coming off of their life.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
You know, first of all, I think age is an
advantage because you have more skills and resources, you have
more confidence to make things happen. It's funny you ask that,
because a lot of people in my community ask or
tell me it's so easy for you. You have a talent.
I wish I had a talent, But really, at the
end of the day, I think it goes back to
(33:57):
again that story of affecting others. I think if people
think about where you've helped others, you've made an impact.
I think we all have an ability to do that
in some way just being who you are. I think
that's where you start. My mom, for example, she's like
my hero. She was a stay home mom and then
(34:18):
she ended up going into technology sales. She hates technology,
she knows nothing about it.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
She would throw a computer at.
Speaker 9 (34:26):
The wall if she could, and she's really not a
salesy type person. But she is a nurturer. That's her
fundamental gift to the world. And she built this rock
star team that was able to hit these amazing financial targets,
and she's helped so many people in their careers because
(34:46):
she's a nurturer. That is her gift. And then I
also think about my nephew. I mean, he's younger in
his life. He's in college now. He found a field
that really resonated with him, which is biomedical engineering. He
wants to help people who you know, need prosthetics or
have some other medical issue, so he's studying engineerings. So
(35:09):
he found a field where he can help others. So
I think when you start with where you can make
a difference, it all falls into place.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Well we are officially officially at a time, but you
are so transparent and inspiring. I can't thank you enough
for coming on. And it went from an art session
to a therapy session.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
I love great advice.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Thank you, you go together.
Speaker 9 (35:32):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
That was the incredible.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Lisa Kinselberg fine artist based in Chicago. Definitely head to
her website at Lisa Kinselberg art dot com and check
her out on the ground at Lisa Kinselberg to stay
up to date with her latest collections like Cities of
the World, and you don't want to miss her artwork
at art Boslweek in Miami this upcoming December through the eighth,
and of course, check out Anna on the Ground at
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Anna Underscored de Vere.
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Sam's up next in the Hydration with Heart segment, brought
to you by Once Upon a Coconut. In the Expert
on the Microphone series, we have two incredibly inspiring guests
who are here to shed light on a condition many
of us may have never heard of, but is considered
one of the most painful medical conditions, trigeminal neualgia, otherwise
referred to as the suicide disease. First joining us is
(37:20):
the incredible doctor Mark Linsky. He's a renowned neurosurgeon and
advocate for facial pain disorders. He has dedicated his career
to helping those suffering from conditions like ten and has
performed life changing surgeries to alleviate the suffering of his patients.
We're honored to have his expertise today as we explore
this condition and the complexities surrounding it. We're also joined
by Kathleen Klein. She's an advocate for trigeminal neualgia and
(37:44):
founder of Face Forward, an organization dedicated to raising awareness
for TEN and other facial pain disorders. Kathleen's story is
nothing short of inspiring. She's lived with this excruciating condition
for over eleven years and has turned her personal battle
into a mission to advocate for others who face the
same silent, deadly struggle. Today, we'll be hearing about her
(38:04):
expertise and her experience and the work that she's doing
to bring awareness to this silent crisis. Welcoming now to
the show is the incredible doctor Mark Lynsky and TN
advocate Kathleen Klein. Welcome, superstars. Thank you so much for
having me.
Speaker 11 (38:19):
Great to be here.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Thank you so much, Doctor Linsky. It's hard to fathom
the kind of pain described by TEN sufferers like Kathleen,
the fact that a misfire of the trigeminal nerve can
cause such agony staggering. So can you explain to our
listeners what exactly causes trigeminal neuralgia? Why is it that
this nerve pain in particular can cast such intense pain.
Speaker 11 (38:41):
Well, absolutely, in less than five percent of cases that
trigobleurologica can be caused by something pathologic that you would
see on magnetic resonance image such as multiple sclerosis or
a tumor or assist or an abnormal blood vessel or
collection of blood vessels. But in ninety five percent of
the time it is caused by one or more normal
(39:03):
bloods coming in contact with the nerve root in the
crawl space between the brain stem and the skull and
causing compression, erosion of the insulation of the nerve, and
triggering of the pain finders. The reason it's so severe
and so difficult in the face is that the trigeminal nerve,
(39:23):
which provides sensation to the face on each side, is
the largest sensory nerve in the human body, and it's
exquisitely sensitive to facial pain disorders.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Wow, that sounds very complex, especially to diagnose and more importantly,
to address. Kathleen, You've described trigeminal neuraja as being akin
to lightening strikes to the face, and I can't imagine
how living with this daily impacts your life. What's more
remarkable is that despite this you have managed to become
a powerful advocate for others. You've built Face Forward to
(39:55):
help raise awareness and support, turning your personal pain into
a public mission. What is inspired you to start Face forward,
and how has the support that you've received from the
community shape your vision to be honest.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
When I was first diagnosed with tragiamomorologia, I faced some
very dark and scary times. I was newly remarried, I.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Was a mom of four young children.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
I was eighteen years into a career that I absolutely loved,
and now I was struck with this new condition, and
it was it was life changing, and I really lost
myself in that, and I just kept wanting to go back,
and I spent a lot of years alone in that.
(40:40):
Then I realized, through my faith mostly that I needed
to stop looking back and face forward. I needed to
find purpose and I still had that passion of helping
others burning inside of me. So I learned to pivot
(41:01):
and that's how Face Forward was born. Because you know,
living in today's world, whether you're dealing with chronic pain,
mental health issues, lost, you know, there's a myriad of
challenges we face every day. There are so many people
that suffer alone in silence.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
You're right now, Kathleen. You've spoken about the immense financial
and emotional burdens that ten suffers face, and it's something
that many chronic patients endure. You've been through two brain
surgeries yourself and countless procedures and an overwhelming number of treatments. So,
given the challenges you have faced and seeking relief, can
you talk about your experiences with surgery and treatment and
(41:43):
how you've balanced the mental and emotional hurdles with this condition.
Speaker 11 (41:47):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
So luckily I was diagnosed quickly, and I say that
because it does take sometimes people years to get diagnosed,
and I had gone through many medications, different treatments.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
I had my first brain surgery. It did not work.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
It brought on more pain, more chronic migraines. I did
a lot of research. I found doctor Lynsky. I quickly
realized that he was my doctor and I would not
want to put my brain in anyone else's hands. So
I had gotten a second brain surgery was him, but
my case was a little more complicated. I had other
(42:27):
neurologies as well, so he did a redo and it
was very extensive.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
It was a very complicated case.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
So he did help take away that electrocution type pain,
but I still have the constant pain where you feel
that you have I liken it to like an iron
on your face you feel.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
So my pain level.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Is around a five every day and it will just
vary depending on the weather, if I'm talking too much,
if I'm not sleeping, the food I'm eating.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
So it sounds like it's hard to really manage, and
I want to ask doctor Linsky. This ten, to my research,
doesn't just come with its intense pain. It's also one
of the most difficult conditions to treat, and especially after
sharing both of you speak right now. So current treatments,
including surgeries like microvascularity compression, are not always permanent solutions,
(43:29):
and many patients like Kathleen still suffer to her point
despite these multiple interventions. And historically there have been many
limitations in current treatments for TAN, but there are emerging
therapies that offer hope. So what advancements in your medical
research or emerging treatments offer the most promise for patients
with TAN and how do they differ from the traditional
(43:49):
surgical approaches.
Speaker 11 (43:50):
Well, initial therapy for this condition is usually medical in
terms of therapy medications and convulsant medications, anti seizure medications,
and there are new ones coming all the time. The
problem is that they only temporize and this is a
progressive syndrome. The most effective treatment, and by and large,
I mean without question, is addressing the cause of the syndrome,
(44:14):
the vascular compression on the nerve, and that's the microvascular
decompression the MBD that you just described, and it is
potentially de surative, not just a long term solution, but
potentially a forever solution in proper surgical hands. The occurrence
rate is only ten percent ten to twenty years. But
there are other procedures that can be done on it,
(44:34):
but they're generally palliative. That means that they address the symptom,
not the cause of the problem, and as a result,
they tend to have a high recurrence rate in a
progressive syndrome. There are also other procedures that implant electrodes
to try and stimulate the Perferle branches or the motor
cortex or the deep brain to try and fool the
brain into thinking you're not in pain, but those also
(44:56):
are not permanent solutions. By far and away, the best
solution is a well done MBD done by a surgeon
very experienced and skilled in it as the first intervention
that gives your best chance of not having a typical
neurologic pain and having a permanent solution going through.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
It sounds like if you do it wrong from the onset,
you've opened up Pandora's box and then it's hard to
reseal that. So the first, the first intervention is key.
And unfortunately, to my understanding, she was your second beacon
of hope. Right, well, you're in good hands now now
you have become a beacon of hope for many people
(45:35):
facing similar conditions despite your ongoing struggle, and we know
that this past October seventh was International Tribegeminal Neurology Awareness Day,
and your efforts to awareness have been tremendous. Kathleen, I
commend you. What do you hope to accomplish on a
larger scale as an advocate for TAN sufferers? I guess
I just.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
Really I want the world to know more about trigeminal
neurologia because it is so very rare, and as with
any other invisible illness, you look like you are okay,
and people often say, well, you look good, but they
don't realize the pain, the excruciating pain that you can feel.
(46:16):
So and unless you do feel it, or you witness
someone who has felt it. You don't believe that a
pain can truly exist and not kill you. So most
days are filled with uncertainty because you don't know what's
going to happen from day to day, from hour to hour,
and the pain is unpredictable.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
So you may be able to.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
Do something you know at one time, but you'll suffer
for days after, or if you're able to do that
one thing, you may not be able to do it again.
So I just I really want to encourage people to
be patient and compassion passionate, show kindness to us because
(47:02):
we really are trying our best with something that is
very rare and is very scary to us.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Sounds like you're dealing with a rollercoaster of emotions, symptoms,
and even consequences. Kathleen, you're doing a great job at
managing it all, doctor Linsky. Given the fact that TN
can be misdiagnosed for years, and as you mentioned earlier,
finding the right treatment early on is critical. What are
some of the early signs of TN that patients and
primary care physicians more importantly might overlook, and how can
(47:32):
we improve the diagnostic process to reduce the number of
misdiagnosed or undiagnosed cases.
Speaker 11 (47:38):
The vast majority of trajungle around to patients when they
have the problem think they have a problem with their teeth,
and they go to denis first. In fact, fifty percent
of trijungle RAULDA patients have unnecessary dental procedures, including root
canals and dental extractions trying to get rid of the
pain because the primary care doctor thinks us a dental issue.
(48:00):
The denist thinks it's a dental issue, but it's not.
That's the biggest mistaken issue out there in terms of
getting people to correct diagnosis. It is such an orphan
disease affecting only six point five patients per one hundred
thousand per year that most primary tear physicians, most denis,
even most neurologists have never seen a case, and so
(48:22):
getting it diagnosed properly and getting it treated properly with
the right ani CONVULCIONT medication at least initially takes a
long time, and the patients are horribly suffering until that
diagnosis is finally made, and then the delay to get
to a neurosurgeon. The average Board certified neurosurgencies only one
to two of these patients every three years. Wow, that
(48:43):
is not going to lead to expertise, it's not going
to lead to correct diagnosis, it's not even going to
lead to a significant experience with the surgeries for this condition.
That means that even the neurosurgeons who have a lot
of experience with this very few in number. We're maybe
six to twelve in the whole US, And trying to
(49:04):
get to those neurosurgeons in modern healthcare situations where your
panel of providers is strictly limited is extremely hard. Wow.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
And Kathleen, I mean, your personal experience and advocacy work
have shown just how isolating and devastating ten can be. However,
through Face Forward, you've helped build a community of support
and that should be so rewarding for you. So what
advice would you give to others who are going through this,
Not how the community should be treating them, but the
ones who are actually going through this and feel like
(49:36):
they're alone in their pain? How can Face Forward help
them find support and hope.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
So, to go off of what doctor Lynsky had said,
you really need to do your research and be your
own advocate. And that is why I went all the
way to California from New York to see him because
he was he is an expert, but just as someone
who's suffering, you just you need to learn to give
you self praise and because the fear and failure and
(50:03):
despair and guilt can really take.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Grip of you.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
And I it took me a long time to realize this,
that we don't need to sit in silence alone with this.
I think the biggest thing is embracing your journey trying
to spread positivity because the world desperately needs that. And
it's more of a platform where we can connect with
(50:29):
others and we might be facing different challenges, but the
bottom line is we're better together and if we're together,
we can get through anything, no matter what we're facing.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
And with that, we are officially out of time. I
want to thank you both as we wrap up today's segment.
I thank you both doctor Linsky and Kathleen for sharing
your time, your expertise, and your powerful story with us today.
Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 11 (50:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
That was a good doctor, doctor Mark, and that was
the incredible Kathleen Klein, trigeminal neuralgia advocate and founder of
Face Forward, an organization dedicated to raising awareness for TN
and other facial pain disorders. You could head to always
Faceforward dot com and check her out on the ground
at always Face FWD. You're listening to a Moment of
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