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Influencer segment, brought to you by the New Jersey field House,
where champions are built and futures are shaped, Today, we're
diving into the high stakes world of competition, strategy and
resilience with none other than Chris Allen, one of the

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breakout stars of Million Dollar Secret, which is Netflix's latest
reality sensation. We're going to break down the mindset of
an overachiever, the role of discipline in success, and how
competition can be a powerful force in shaping our lives.
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They're going to join me to discuss their latest venture,
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I'm your host, Zenzam's Welcome back to the Influencer segment
brought to you by the New Jersey Field House, where
champions are built and futures are shaped. To the day,
We're diving into the high stakes world of competition, strategy,

(04:03):
and resilience with none other than Chris Allen, one of
the breakout stars of Million Dollars Secret, Netflix's latest reality
sensation it's a game of wit, deception, and endurance. This
shows throws twelve strangers into a luxurious state where one
of them secretly holds a million dollars. Their mission keep

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it hidden at all costs. But Chris wasn't just another contestant.
His background in corporate finance, combined with an IVY League
education and a deep commitment to mental and physical wellness
made him uniquely prepared for the psychological warfare of the game.
Beyond the reality TV drama, Chris is passionate about helping
others achieve success, whether it's in business, personal growth, or

(04:47):
staying mentally and physically sharp under pressure. Today, we're breaking
down the mindset of an overachiever, the role of discipline
in success, and how competition can be a powerful force
in shaping our lives. We're chatting mass during the mind Game,
high stakes competition, and winning in life. Welcoming now to
the show is New Jersey's very own Chris Allen. Welcome

(05:09):
to the show, Superstar, great to be here, so excited
to have you on. So let's dive right in because
I know people are just eager to really understand the
motivation behind everything you do. Let's chat adapting to high
stakes environments, which seems to be exactly what you've done.
So from going from the structured world of finance and
academia to the unpredictable landscape of reality TV, that's no

(05:32):
small leap. Studies show that high achievers who embrace unpredictability
are about forty percent more likely to develop advanced problem
solving skills. And Million Dollar Secret is nothing if not unpredictable.
So how did your background and finance and business strategy
prepare you for the mind games of Million Dollar Secret?

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Well, I think I was really blessed to have gotten
the opportunity to be on Million Dollar Secret because the
game was sort of the ultimate test of all of
the things that I learned in the business world up
until that point. Entrepreneurship was sort of the ultimate battlefield.
I think every single day is an entrepreneur you deal
with the highest of highs and the lowest of lows.
You wake up every single morning not necessarily knowing what

(06:12):
that day has, You know that day has to be
ahead of you. And then going into Million Dollar Secret,
every possible high stakes, high stress situation was something that
was presented to us on an hour to our basis.
So I think being an entrepreneur really tested me and
trained me to be agile, to think in different ways,
to be analytical, to read people, to influence others, And

(06:35):
it was really fun to have applied the lessons of
being an entrepreneur to playing this high stakes, high stress
game that now the world is.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Getting has gotten to be able to see that.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Makes total sense. It's like playing chess in real time,
anticipating moves, controlling perception, and staying one step ahead. So
your ability to adapt under pressure must have been a
huge advantage. Right now, Let's chat the psychology of competition
and over achievers. So some people shy away from competition
and others thrive in it. Studies show that overachievers tend

(07:06):
to view competition as a form of self improvement rather
than just winning or losing. What was a driving force,
per se behind that competitive mindset? Have you always been
like that? How has that drive helped you both in
business and even in Million Dollar Secret?

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah? I actually draw.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
A lot of parallels to how I felt and how
I played the game A Million Dollar Secret to how
I felt as an athlete growing up, And for me,
my competitive mindset was honed on the athletic field.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
I was the son of a college athlete.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
I played all sorts of sports growing up, and obviously,
you know, was very competitive in doing so. I think
I felt competitive from an early age and that was
really the environment that I had that in, you know,
as an adult and as an entrepreneur as a business person,
I think a lot of times you do have to
kind of curb that natural competition and sort of be
collaborative and work with others and you know, find healthy

(07:59):
ways channel your competitiveness because a lot of times it's
not necessarily received.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
So well.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
In Million Dollar Secret, I felt the competitive juice is
flowing the way I hadn't felt them since I had
been an athlete as a child because of such a
competitive environment, such a competitive field, and we competed on
a daily basis. So it was exciting to feel those
feelings again and also track the arc of how I've
developed and changed, and frankly, watching the series back, I

(08:24):
look at it as an example of ways that I
can continue to grow the way that the competition, the
competitiveness came out, I'm like, yeah, I think that there's
still growth for me as a person having seen how
that sort of high stakes environment brought out different characteristics.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
That's such an important perspective. First of all, we never
stop growing, right. We always know enough to know that
we don't know everything. And competition isn't just about beating others.
It's about pushing yourself to being better, stronger, and sharper,
and in a game like this, that mindset could make
or break your success. So let's chat discipline consistence and
see that winning formula.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Right.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Studies do show that people who stick to their disciplined
routines are like forty five percent more likely to achieve
their goals than those who rely solely on motivation, and
that applies to fitness to business and even reality TV strategy.
So what role did discipline and consistency play in preparing
you for the pressures of both entrepreneurship and being on

(09:25):
million Dollar Secret.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
I think that there's a lot of similarities between the two.
Entrepreneurship and then being in a high stakes reality competition.
Both of them are really high variance emotional environments. So
being an entrepreneur, obviously you have the highest of highs
and the lowest of lows. Right, What I think discipline
and consistency plays into that is that you need to
find some way to bring it back to level. And
for me, those things would be, you know, mindfulness, physical fitness,

(09:51):
and then obviously things that I enjoy hobbies outside of
my entrepreneurial pursuits. So those things would ground me, they
would bring me back to level, and they would sort
of allowed sort of the variability of being an entrepreneur.
In Million Dollar Secret, we were filming most of the day, right,
so it was really hard to build in discipline or consistency.
What I found to help bring me back to level

(10:12):
was writing. I kept copious notes of what I was doing,
and that became sort of a nighttime routine for me
to kind of wind out for a really high stress day.
And it's also served as a nice memento for me
to look back and think what was I was thinking
during the sort of defining life experience.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's so true, and whether it's training for a marathon
or running a business or competing on a reality show,
discipline is what separates the contenders from the champions, right,
absolutely so, mental toughness in high stress situations. Okay, so
one thing that separates top performers in any field is
their ability to stay mentally strong when things get tough.

(10:48):
We know that elite competitors trained their minds just as
much as their skills, building resilience to handle that high
pressure situation. So what were some of the most mentally
challenging moments on Million Dollars Secret and how did you
keep your emotions in check?

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (11:05):
I think coming into the house a million dollar Secret,
I thought that my experience as an entrepreneur would really
help me develop, you know, portray and exhibit mental toughness.
But the game stretch just beyond the limits of what
I was prepared for. So looking back on it, I
don't know that I necessarily did the best job, and
I think that there's a lot of ways I can
continue to improve from this experience. But what I will

(11:26):
say is the scar tissue of having been through high
stress situations, been in the boardroom, been in difficult conversations
with investors, vcs, things like that really helped me because
ultimately I've developed the sort of mental rigor of what
do I do when I feel a certain way, how
do I bring it back to level? How do I
continue to portray calmness and you know, stability when you're

(11:50):
in a difficult situation. With that said, looking back on
the experience, I still have more to learn. I think
that that will continue to benefit me as I go forward.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Now, let's I want to move on to physical way
and performance. When you look at people who exercise regularly,
who commit to a sport that improves cognitive function alone
by up to thirty percent, it boosts decision making, reaction time.
There's stress management involved in all this, which is essential
in both business and high stakes competition. So how has

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your dedication to fitness and wellness helped you maintain that
peak performance. I know you said your dad was an athlete,
but whether in business or reality TV or even everyday life,
I'm sure it all ties together for you.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
I mean, if fitness is physical wellness is a way
of training your mind for the sport of business, I
think that that's something that anybody who tries to balance
those two things we'd agree with.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well, what I really liked about.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Maintaining a physical wellness regimen while being an entrepreneur is
that there is no way to cheat physical wellness, right.
The results are the results the work that you put in.
The inputs equal the outputs, and a lot of times
in srepreneurship. It's not a fair game. Sometimes in million
dollar Secret it's not a fair game. But in physical
wellness a lot of times it is a fair game. Right.

(13:07):
You're the inputs that you put in equally output. So
I really like that if I want results in my
physical and mental wellness, I have to put in the
work in order to achieve them. There's no way for
me to skirt around it or gia.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, success is holistic. You can't perform at your best
mentally if you're not taking care of yourself physically. I
mean it's common sense. Now, let's chat lessons from this
reality TV for real life. So it's come on. I
mean like it's a lot of pressure, very quick thrust
into the spotlight. Reality TV is often seen as just entertainment,

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but there are real world lessons hidden in the chaos
and the ability to read people, to think on your
feet and adapt to unexpected challenges. Those are skills that
really translate far beyond the screen. So what was the
biggest lesson you took away from a million dollars secret
that you think applies to everyday life.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
My biggest lesson and takeaway for a million dollars secret
is actually a really positive one because our game is
a brutal game and it requires you to lie in
order to succeed. So I thought I was going to
come away with the lessons of Wow, people can be
really devs, people can be really backstepping. But it actually
encouraged me to look for the good in people because
but I look at this, this is a game where
we had to lie in order to succeed. But for

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the most part, what I saw is that we actually
wanted to play honestly.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
We wanted to play with integrity. We wanted to win
while maintaining our personal.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Values for the most part, and those who did have
to lie in order to win really struggled with it.
So it's encouraged me to sort of look for the
good in people, and you know, maybe you have a
bit more of a positive outlook then maybe you would
have thought.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
So if you read the lagline of the show, that's
such a powerful takeaway. So let's chat what's next. You've
conquered the world of finance, built businesses, and now made
a name for yourself in reality TV. Your journey proves
that success isn't a straight line. It's about taking bold chances.
And testing the process. So what's next? Are you looking
to stay in entertainment or are there any other cool

(15:01):
projects on the horizon.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
I absolutely would love to stay in entertainment. The process
and experience of going on and sharing million dollars secret
with the world has been for me the honor of
a lifetime. But one of the great things about being
on reality television is that it allows you a platform
to connect with like my individuals and oftentimes those that
follow you and want to follow your journey are doing

(15:23):
so because they're interested in what you're interested in. So
for me, as a creator that now has a bit
more of a platform, I'm excited to help bring others
along on the journey of business ownership. It's really hard,
and I think a lot of times it can be
very isolating experience. My passion is around creating communities to
help people pursue entrepreneurship in a sustainable way for their

(15:44):
physical and mental wellness, and I'm going to use my
platform to do that.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
That's exciting and so humble of you. Whether I mean
whether it's reality TV or your business mindset or your
wellness mindset, whatever you take on next, I have no
doubt you'll approach it with the same strategic mind and
competitive drive that's gotten you this far.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
So kudos to you, my friend. Here's a pleasure.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
And so for those of you that want to follow him,
you definitely want to check him out on Instagram. He's
very active. Check out his social at callen n DCA
double l E N n D. Thank you for joining us.
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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area. You're listening to a
moment of Zen right here on seven to ten. Woar
the voice of New york iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zenzam's
up next in the Going Deep segment, brought to you
by Co two Lift. In our Expert on the Microphone series. Today,
we're joined by the Powerhouse husband wife duo doctor Stephen
Diane and doctor Sabrina Faby. Doctor Dian is a facial

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plastic surgeon, clinical assistant, professor, researcher, and bestselling author with
top doc recognition by numerous organizations. Doctor Faby is a
renowned Bird certified dermatologist, ranking in the top five of
Newsweek's twenty twenty three list of America's best cosmetic dermatologists.
She's also an associate research director has authored over two

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hundred and ten publications and lectures across the world on
aesthetic dermatology advancements. They're quite the impressive pair together. They're
going to join me to discuss their latest venture on
XOMD Skincare, the first moodceutical skincare line. They're here to
discuss the mind skin connection and break down the most
exciting technologies and advancements in the esthetic industry today. Welcome

(18:04):
to the Shadow Superstars.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Hi that.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
So we're gonna dive right in. Studies show a strong
link between the mind emotions and overall skin health. For example,
stress hormones like cortisol worsen dryness, sprinkles, and acne. And
on the other hand, as a plastic surgeon, you offer
esthetic procedures which cannot only transform your patient's appearance, but
also how they feel. Now, after an esthetic procedure, a

(18:28):
patient's confidence has the ability to lower inflammation in the
body by decreasing those cortisol levels and in turn decreasing
the inflammatory process. Now, doctor Diane, I know this is
your area of expertise. Tell me what inspired you to
explore the psychosocial thermal axis and can you tell us
more about the transformative effects of understanding that mind skin connection.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
Zen's a great question, and it's really been mine and
Serena's north star as we developed this mood suticle, because
we've always recognized that when we're in the clinic, you
can give a person a perfect you can make them
physically beautiful, but they may not be satisfied, they may
not be completely happy, So what else is it? And
early on in my career, I realized there's something more
to beauty, and that's the ability to feel beautiful, which

(19:11):
is more important than looking beautiful. And as we move
forward and creating a skincare product line, we wanted to
make sure we were addressing that component.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
It's very symbiotic, this relationship that not only that you
have between the mind body connection, but between the two
of you. So I'm going to pivot to doctor Faby.
You and doctor Diane founded XOMD, which focuses on exactly
what we're talking about and is the first mood sceutical
skincare line to hit the markets. And I read that
the idea for XOMD first took shape when you were
pregnant with your son Matteo, trying to bottle up that

(19:42):
pregnancy glow. I love the story. Can you tell us
more about the science behind Xomd's mood suticals and how
oxytocin is at its core?

Speaker 8 (19:51):
Well, oxytocin is actually then our number one antioxidant at
the level of the skin. You really rely on oxytocin.
This is the reason why when some one's pregnant. When
someone's in love, you can see that they're glowing, that
they look almost a little bit more youthful, that they
look their skin looks a little bit more supple. People
may comment, gosh, you know, what are you doing? Or

(20:13):
have you met someone?

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Or are you in love? It's like that look of love.

Speaker 8 (20:18):
And I definitely noticed in my personal experience when I
was pregnant, like I almost looked a little bit younger.
And so that really made us both, you know, explore
this hormone that we naturally secrete and to see why
hasn't anyone come up with something like this. Now, historically
you could get it from a drug, but can there
be something topically that we can apply through botanical axtracts

(20:40):
like jasmine that can naturally make this product be excreted
in our skin. And we were able to formulate something
that in a double blinded placebo control trial, was able
to prove that it could be done.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
But people don't realize, and even doctors don't realize that.

Speaker 7 (20:56):
Is that your skin communicates with your environment, and your
skin and your brain had this access that goes back
and forth, all at a subconscious level. Oxytocin is very
unique because when it goes up in your skin, when
you hug someone, when you cuddle someone, when a mother
and baby bond, the oxytocin levels go up in the skin,
but then it causes a positive biofeedback loop with your brain,
and your brain then releases more oxytocin. Your plasma levels

(21:19):
that go up of oxytocin, and overall you get this euphoria,
You feel better, and we capture that in a bottle.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
And I understand that these products are clinically proven, and
you conducted these double blind, placebo controlled, randomized crossover trials
that you just mentioned to further validate their effectiveness. So
I love that things are clinically verified in research. Now,
doctor Dian, can you share some of the key findings
from the trial and explain why it's so important to
offer products that are not only dermatologists developed, but also

(21:48):
backed by rigorous clinical research.

Speaker 7 (21:50):
Many doctors have skincare lines, but very few actually formulate
their own and then study it and test it to
such rigorous standards. And I believe that that's really something
we should all do, and that was ours we had
to do in order to put our name on it.
So we did that strict trial and afterwards what we
find out, well, it was really interesting because we showed
improvement in skin quality and we could prove that in
things like radiant radiance, doiness, better hydration, less redness, more

(22:14):
skin tone, eveness, and that was against placebo which had
no improvement.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
We also looked at confidence.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
Confidence went up sixty percent at four weeks, eighty six
percent improvement in confidence at eight weeks. Then we looked
at things like first impressions. If you wear this pride,
do you project a better first impression, and things such
as people look more attractive, they look more financially successful,
they looked three years younger. And then the last thing
we looked at we put a pheromone type product in there.
So I'm like, Serena, let's measure sexual satisfaction. She's like, no,

(22:40):
we can't do that. I'm like, please, let's measure sexual satisfaction.
So we put in a valid data scale, which is
a very rigorous benchmark. And what we find yes, people
who were in our clinical trial statistically significant improvement and
sexual satisfaction eighteen out of twenty categories.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
The cboat zero.

Speaker 7 (22:57):
That was so we went back to the statistation, like
you sure you to make a mistake because we both
do clinical trust to seize data.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
That's so different between placebo. We're like, we got to.

Speaker 8 (23:06):
Well, abways have a placebo effect, but in this particular case,
there was zero.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Wow, this is so impressive. Look at you little dynamic
do over there, changing the face of clinical research. I
love this. Now, many people use skincare as a self
care ritual, so I love how not only are these
moodseuticles scientifically built to improve your mood, but the very
act of using them is transformative in and of itself. Right,

(23:31):
So I'll also bring up another clinically proven product, CO
two Lift, which I know you are both familiar with.
It's a non invasive, medical grade carboxy gel mask that
offers both monotherapy and combo therapy benefits. Similar to XOMD products,
The CO two Lift mask improves texture, tone and helps
reverse the skin's aging process. Doctor Faby, as a renowned
cosmetic therm at the top of your field, how do

(23:54):
you see the CO two lift mask revolutionizing skincare and
how can it complement the science behind mood stuticles in
the mind skin connection Well?

Speaker 8 (24:02):
In fact, you know, I do a lot of laser
resurfacing as a dermatologist living in southern California, so this
is the only way really sometimes to get rid of
all those pesky lines and wrinkles, like the deep setted
lines and wrinkles. But a limitation with something that's so
affected is that there's so much downtime. And the wonderful
thing about CO two lift that actually took from Stephen
is that it's able to reduce that downtime so that

(24:24):
it gets patients back out there and more confident because
they were actually able to embark on the treatment that
was going to give them the best result.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
And so you did the clinical trial, maybe you want
to share that, Yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (24:35):
Did clinical trials and this I think this is an
old science that we have that the COEO twift has
found a way to harness it and allow us to
use it in the topical mass CO two. When your
carbonax levels go up, it actually causes what's called a
bore effect, and a bore effect means the hemid lobe
and your blood cells want to are more attracted to
this carbon dioxide. It picks up the carbonax and it
drops off oxygen in your tissues, so it increases oxygen

(24:59):
in your tissues. When you increase oxygen in your tissues,
you get more angiogenesis or more blood vessels. You get
better flow of blood vessels, greater density of these vessels,
and then you start to get improvement. Growth factors are
release and you also get better porty like cancer, and
they're building blocks of your skin get reproduced and regenerated.
So all these wonderful things happen, and it's nothing new.
In the nineteen thirties in France, people who had ulcers

(25:22):
and they had open wounds with sit in carboxy bass
bass filled with water. So of course, thank you to
the French again to give us some great idea that
we now have in CO two lift that we can
put onto our patients topically and they can wear it
before and after undergoing procedures.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Now we're going to talk a little bit more about
this clinical trial. So eighty seven percent of XOMD users
found the opposite sex more attracted and ninety percent reported
greater sexual satisfaction. You alluded to this earlier, but not
to mention in two cases users conceived while using it.
Is this accurate. It's like I'm reading these.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Stouts and wait on Zam, we're not going to finish
there because another way.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
An anecdote on this on Hanning, I've We've been doing
studies for years and I do many many stays, thousands
of patients to incling the crosse. I've never had it
where two people dropped out of a study because they
got pregnant for four weeks and within four weeks and they're
supposed to be wearing double protection.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
So what is going on here? Now?

Speaker 7 (26:16):
You know, we are surmising that improved relationships because the
men who were in the men who were married or
partnered with women who were in the study also reported
greater sexual satisfaction. We don't talk about that much, but
I gotta tell you for Valentine's Day, guys, it's the flowers.
Get them EXOMD because you're gonna have your sexual satisfaction
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(26:37):
And we did interviews afterwards and they told us there
was greater intimacy. And now since we've launched, we have.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Another Yes, my assistant is now pregnant. Just to get
improves intimate relationships with two people, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
It differs from couple to couple because studies have shown
sex to be beneficial to our health. It lowers blood pressure,
boosts the immune system, improves sleep, even decreases depression and anxiety.
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They also have a volt evolva rejuvenation product called the
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(27:13):
of intimacy, Doctor Dian Let's let's chat this. I know
you authored the book Subliminally Exposed, which details the how
and why behind our actions when it comes to mating, dating,
and communicating, and you often speak about attraction maintaining intimacy.
So given your expertise, how do you see intimacy playing
a role in overall well being? And how do products
like xomds, moodseuticles and CO two Lift V contribute to

(27:36):
enhancing both that desire and connection between partners. I mean,
I know it got people feeling sexier, but what's really
at the heart of it all?

Speaker 7 (27:44):
These are great questions, and you know for many years
this is somewhat taboo, especially in our professional medical field,
but the reality is that sex is good for us.
It's great for us.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
It releases the doorphins, It brings us close together.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
When these oxytocin levels go up, you feel better about yourself,
but just feel closer to your partner.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
You stand close, there's greater fidelity. It's better for the offspring.

Speaker 7 (28:04):
At some core level, we're animalistic and we can't help
we have primal urges, and while we can fight them,
they're there, and I think we have to accept those
primal urges. And when we recognize them, when we're attracting someone,
there's something so much more that's going on than just
the way they look. We're physically attracted them and exploring
that and developing, and of course it has to be healthy,
but it's really good for you for you overall. Now

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both XOMD and Co two Lift are are opening up
and pioneering this field.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
From our aesthetic world.

Speaker 7 (28:31):
There's a whole sexual health and wellness world, but we're
not generally part of it, but not together. We're merging
and things like CO two Lift and US are saying, hey,
wait a second.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Beauty, aesthetics, sexual health, they all kind of inter relate.
Where is that connection? And that's what we're fighting with
these products right.

Speaker 8 (28:45):
Now, because sex ultimately allows you to feel good, right,
and so for a woman that vulva region as we age,
you know you can have more pain with intercourse. You
may not be as comfortable. You may then start disengaging,
which ultimately has an effect not just in the pleasure
of that moment, but also just how you conduct yourself
with that relationship day to day. And so if you're

(29:07):
able to improve the vulgar area and rejuvenate it to
a certain degree.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
You enjoy intercourse more frequently.

Speaker 8 (29:16):
You are closer to your partner because of the oxytocin
that you're able to release during that intimacy, and that
just ends up.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
If you end up feeling good, you end up looking good.

Speaker 8 (29:24):
We're historically in esthetics we focus more on looking good
and that resulting and feeling good. But I think that
through your work, through your that's ultimately what you talked
about in your book too, right.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
It's those that sometimes have that inner feel.

Speaker 8 (29:35):
Good that actually look good, and then they may not
need the products that we do every single day in
our practice to necessarily help them look even better.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
And these are such easy at home modalities that you
can be proactive with your life about and I love
that you guys are at the forefront of sexual wellness
and demystifying the stigmas that surround both women and men
because these products are used both women and men. So
I love that. So lastly, we're out of time. I
could talk to you all day about this, but you

(30:06):
have a conference to get to. I'd love to get
both your perspectives, not just as top practicing professionals in
your field, but also as educators. Why do you believe
education is crucial in the aesthetic industry, not only for
students and fellow professionals like yourselves, but also for your patients.

Speaker 7 (30:21):
Breaks down barriers, defeats prejudice, and it makes us all
better for our patients.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Ultimately, today, that's our job. We pass it on.

Speaker 7 (30:28):
We're just a vehicle, a vessel that takes knowledge from
those before us and pastiene to those after us.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
And it's really a privilege to have people who learn
from us.

Speaker 7 (30:35):
And Saren and I have been teaching, We've published over
four hundred articles, We've been in conference all around the world,
and it's a passion for us.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
And I think you know, when they rise, we all rise.

Speaker 8 (30:44):
I think education is extremely important because it empowers people
about what's possible, about what they can do based on
things that others our ancestors have studied. And then it
also gives us a vehicle in which we can better
and advance medicine so that you're empowered through it. All Right,
I can't thank both of you enough for coming on.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
I mean, this has been such an inspiring, very transparent
and very informational session. I love having the two of
you on. You guys are not just amazing as a couple,
husband and wife, but just incredible professionals. Thank you so much.
Great to be with you.

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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area. You're listening to a
moment of Zen right here on seven to ten WR
the Voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen
Sam's welcome back to another polished beauty segment and as always,
were joined by my brilliant co contributor, doctor Daisy aim.

(32:40):
She's a triple board certified cosmetic surgeon and obgyn who
brings her medical expertise to the forefront of beauty, wellness,
health and brains today. The topic is one that many
of us experience, but just rarely talk about. High functioning depression.
You know the feeling you're juggling a successful career, social life,
for responsibilities, yet something feels off. You're exhausted, emotionally drained,

(33:05):
maybe even just disconnected, but on the outside you look
like you have it all together well. Our guest today
has put a name to the silent struggle and is
giving people the tools to reclaim their joy. She's a
board certified psychiatrist, researcher, and award winning mental health advocate.
Her book High Functioning Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim
Your Joy hitshelves April eighth, and it's already making waves.

(33:28):
Welcoming now to the show is the incredible doctor Judith Joseph. Welcome, superstar,
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
I'm so excited to be here.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Doctor Daisy, so excited to have you back on.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Of course, Welcome doctor Judith.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
I can't wait to hear so much about this book.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
It's nice to meet your book.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
This is a hard topic for memy, but let's talk
about the glorification of overwork. Hustle culture trains us to
believe that exhaustion is the price of success, and because
of that, so many people overlook their mental health struggles.
Nearly one in ten adults in the US US experience depression,
maybe even more, but many just don't seek treatment because

(34:04):
they don't recognize their symptoms as depression. They chalk it
up to stress, burnout, or just pushing through. So let's
start with the basics. How do we differentiate between regular
stress and what you define as high functioning depression? And
why do so many high achievers fall into this category.

Speaker 10 (34:23):
That's a great question. Stress is actually a part of
the typical human experience.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
We need stress.

Speaker 10 (34:29):
Without stress, healthy stress, we wouldn't get up in the morning,
we wouldn't go to work, we wouldn't do things that
we need to do to survive. However, unhealthy stress is
when this worrying and the pressures of life start to
wear and tear on our mind, on our body, on
our quality of life. So when healthy stress crosses over

(34:52):
to unhealthy stress, that could lead to things like depression, anxiety, burnout,
substance abuse. But high functioning depression is different than typical
depression because in high functioning people, they have all of
the symptoms of depression, but instead of breaking down or

(35:13):
exhibiting significant distress, they actually overfunction. They cope by busying themselves.
So when they're sitting still, they feel restless. When they're
not busy, they feel empty, and they don't know what
this unpleasant feeling is, which is an hodonia, So they
just keep moving and being busy, and before you know it,
you're a human doing not a human being.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Wow, that distinction right there is so crucial because that
between burnout and high functioning depression, that's so critical. We've
all been conditioned to believe that exhaustion is just the
price of ambition. But what you're saying is that it's
actually a warning sign that something deeper, much deeper, is
going on. And that's a total paradigm shift. And I

(35:55):
love that you're addressing this in a way that makes
mental health more nuanced. It's not black or white. It's
about recognizing the gray areas where we can make changes
before things escalate. So brava to you.

Speaker 10 (36:07):
Look, you know, burnout wasn't added into the diagnostic manual
only until recently. Right, it only got added about ten
fifteen years ago. But none of us would ever say, oh,
it didn't exist before you put it in the coding book. Right,
We knew it always existed, but people weren't recognizing it.
And burnout by definition is an occupational hazard. So the

(36:28):
situation at work, the work environment that's causing the overwhelm,
the lack of concentration, the irritability, the exhaustion. But technically,
if it's true burnout, once you leave that environment, you
should feel better, right, You should be refreshed, you should
be restored and made whole. The difference between burnout and
high function depression is that when you remove the person
who has high function depression out of the work situation,

(36:51):
they still can't be still. They still find other things
to do. They'll busy themselves with their church, they'll busy
themselves with their kids, they'll take on all these responsibilities
out of side hustle. They just can't sit still. They
have this inner restlessness and a lot of them experience
something called anne hendonia, which is a lack of pleasure

(37:11):
and interest in things. So, for example, if you used
to really enjoy your favorite food. Let's say sushi and
you're eating sushi and you're like, eh, you just eat
it just to survive. Or you used to really enjoy
your favorite music, your song and you dance to it,
but now you're like, uh huh, that's all right. That's
an hondonia, and it is the silent red flag that

(37:32):
you may have high function depression and you don't realize
it because most people when they think depression, they think crying,
not get out of bed. They're not thinking busy, productive
person who walks around feeling dull or mute.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
They say, oh, that's not a problem.

Speaker 10 (37:46):
The only people who are really issues are people we
have to take care of who are in crisis. But
we're missing the majority of us we have some depression.
If we wait for us to break down, then we're
missing out on a whole host of people that we
could potentially vent a breakdown.

Speaker 11 (38:02):
So your book introduces the five v's, which I love, Validation, venting, values, vitals,
and vision. Which one do people struggle with the most
and how can they start implementing it today to improve.

Speaker 10 (38:17):
Doctor Daisy, I think that validation is the hardest, the
most difficult one for people who are high functioning.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
Why, you know, I spoke at a conference recently.

Speaker 10 (38:28):
With all these high powered women, and they women who
have it all, And I asked, these women who have
it all, how many of you have sat through meetings
and you really had to pee but you didn't, And they.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
All started laughing.

Speaker 10 (38:40):
There was not one person in that room who didn't
do that, right, Because why they invalidate their bodies all
the time. You know, how many of us have been
sitting at a desk and our neck hurts and our
wrist tracts, but we keep typing away, or our eyes
really hurt and we don't want to be on that meeting,
but we.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
Still press it.

Speaker 10 (38:56):
Right, We invalidate how we feel all the time. Validation
tends to be the hardest one, and it's because a
lot of people with high function and depression have learned
early in their lives to just push down how they're
feeling and not accept any knowledge how they feel, to
just get through to just continue being pathologically productive. So
I spend a lot of time helping people with validation,

(39:18):
and I liken it too.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
What if you're in this.

Speaker 10 (39:21):
Room and you hear a big crash, right, and you're
looking around, but it's dark that no one had turned
the lights on. You're just Some of people will go running,
some people start swinging. You turn the light on and
you see, oh, that was just a vase that fall.
You're like, I feel better when we identify our feelings
and accept our feelings. It's like turning the light on,
and it's like feeling better and feeling less stressed. Because

(39:43):
humans don't like uncertainty. So if we can pinpoint how
we feel and accept how we feel, that act as
therapeutic and anti anxiety provoking in itself.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Wow, some thought provoking answers there. So, doctor Judus, we've
all I heard the phrase listen to your body, but
what I love about your work is that you take
it a step further helping people listen to their emotions too.
That's for me. That's everything you talk about, the six vitals,
the work life balance, the sleep relationship, diet, movement, and

(40:16):
technology use. Now, let's be honest, half of us are
guilty of doom scrolling at two and three, I'm when
we should be sleeping. And that brings me to my
next question. What are some of the biggest warning signs
that are vitals are off. And what's one small but
powerful change we can make today to start reclaiming our joy.

Speaker 10 (40:34):
Well, you know, the vitals that most doctors will tell
you to look out for, and doctor Dais will agree,
are getting good movement, getting you know, good nutrition, less
inflammatory foods, less artificial foods, getting good sleep. But there
are three vile signs that most healthy care providers neglect,
and I'm going to teach you how to identify them.
The first is the quality of your relationships. The longevity

(40:57):
science these days says that the quality of your relationships
is the number one predictor of your longevity. That means,
if you're with someone toxic or in a toxic relationship,
they are literally draining your life force.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
So think about that.

Speaker 10 (41:10):
Number two is your relationship with technology. I truly believe
that in the future there's gonna be a whole category
of conditions in mental health dedicated to how technology impacts
are bring They're already studying it. And the third uncommon
vital sign is work like boundaries. You know, people with
high functioning depression have very a healthy relationship with work.

(41:32):
Their identity is all tied up in their role. They
don't know who they are without their role.

Speaker 6 (41:36):
You ask some what do you do?

Speaker 3 (41:38):
You know?

Speaker 6 (41:38):
Who are you?

Speaker 10 (41:39):
They talk about their work, they don't talk about their values.
So there's this real identity shift that needs to happen.

Speaker 12 (41:44):
Yeah, I mean I one hundred percent agree with you, you know, Doug.
With more people turning to social media, it's everywhere. It's
who doesn't have social media? And you know some people
are using it as advice. You know, they go there
and they take information. What would you recommend or have
them be mindful of when they log on on THEO

(42:06):
social media.

Speaker 10 (42:07):
Platforms to receive health mental health advice? Well, you know,
I'm a part of this team with the WHO, the
oral health organization called the Fights Influencers, where we are
all people who are licensed. You have to they have
to prove your license and they have to vet you
and look at all your training.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
And the reason they recruited us. I felt like I
was being recruited to like the six or something.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
It's all international super vetted and you're like, what is this?

Speaker 10 (42:32):
But really to make sure that you're able to provide
information to counter misinformation. There's just so much misinformation out
there and so as a team, you know, we all
talk about how to combat misinformation to make sure that
the relevant information gets the platform, but it's it's sad
because the misinformation tends to be more fun to watch, right,

(42:57):
And and there's nothing wrong.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
With people sharing their stories.

Speaker 10 (43:00):
I truly believe that when people share their personal stories
about their conditions and provide their experiences, it can decrease stigma.
And we need people who are not you know, healthcare
professionals to do that. But it becomes very, very dangerous
when people start to use their story as the gold standard,
which is like, this is what you should do because

(43:22):
I did it.

Speaker 13 (43:22):
That is an excellent point, and I think it really
drives in the fact that you have some of these
large voices on this platform, but when you dig deeper,
there's no actual interactional clinical experience or anything like Google
review or health grid or anything to really back who
they are.

Speaker 10 (43:39):
That they claim to be with such a huge platform.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
So thank you for bringing that up. Yeah, of course, now,
doctor Jus. One thing that really struck me about your
book is how often people mistake productivity for emotional wellbeing.
I mean, think about it, right, if someone is hitting
all their professional goals and managing a social life and
keeping up appearances. It's easy to assume they're fine, But

(44:01):
what you're saying is that high functioning depression hides behind
that illusion of success. So my question is what are
some of the most surprising symptoms of high functioning depression
that people tend to overlook?

Speaker 10 (44:13):
In my research because I published the only peer reviewed
clinical study on high functioning depression in the world. In
my research, I found that there was a correlation between
trauma and HFD. So one of the common trauma responses
is avoidance, but not in the classic way that you
think of, like a combat veteran not wanting to go
to a certain area, because the triggerism avoiding can be

(44:35):
busying yourself, you know, jamming your schedule so you don't
have to think about anything painful, so you don't have
to reflect.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
And a lot of.

Speaker 10 (44:43):
People they can't sit still because they're running from something
that they haven't processed. And I've seen this in my
clinical practice. You know a lot of people who on
the outside look very successful. They come to me and
they're like, I have everything. I have the family, I
have the home, I have the career. I should be happy,
but something's off and they have aunt hodonia, they don't

(45:03):
enjoy things, and then we work our way back, so
we find out that there was an unprocessed trauma and
they just forgot how to actually tap into joy.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
They have this different definition.

Speaker 10 (45:14):
They're chasing this idea of happy, right, I will be
happy when I have the house, I have the car,
I have the man, I have the family, but.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
They're still not happy.

Speaker 10 (45:22):
They keep chasing it versus missing out on joy because
they're so busy. Joy is the experience in the daily moments.
It's if you're tired getting rest, if you're hungry, feeling satisfied,
if you're lonely, feeling connected, right, if you're uninspired, feeling
like motivated. All of those are basic points of joy,

(45:42):
and when you add them up, that leads to what
in research we call happiness. But most people who come
to you in private practice, they're like, I just want
to be happy, and we're like, no, we're just trying
to get you more points of joy. And another point
of joy people neglect is feeling relaxed. On all of
our depression research skills will ask you, are you soothed?

Speaker 6 (46:01):
Are you tense?

Speaker 10 (46:02):
And people get, oh, well, isn't that anxiety. Well, actually
being relaxed and not stress is a point of joy.
But many of us are so busy and overwhelmed. We
can't access joy because we're so tense, we're so anxious.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah, that's eye opening, because we've been trained to believe
that as long as we're getting things done, we must
be okay. Right, But what you're showing us is that
feeling disconnected, emotionally detached, or even just constantly exhausted can
be major red flags. And I love how you highlight
that these aren't just feelings, they're actual symptoms that deserve attention.

(46:36):
That's a really powerful shift in perspective.

Speaker 10 (46:38):
Yeah, we chase the price tags, but the things that
make us really joyful are the things that are priceless.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Right.

Speaker 10 (46:44):
The price tags are the bag, the shoes, which are
all nice to have, the home. But at the end
of the day, on your deathbed, you're not going to
be like I wish I had another burkin. You're gonna
be like I wish I had five minutes with the
ones I love. That's what I want to snuggle with.
Nobody's going to be snuggling with their burkin, right.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Wow, this conversation is I opening and I love I
love this interview. We could go on for another thirty minutes,
but we are officially out of time. It's been great
chatting with you with both of you today, You both
brought such incredible energy and insight and value and it
is my privilege to learn from you today.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
I was plagues sticking with you both.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
For anyone listening and watching, you can grab your copy
of High Functioning Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy.
It was out April eighth, but it's directly available on
the website at High Functioning book dot com, or you
can also head to doctor Judith Joseph dot com and
do check her out on the gram at doctor Judith Joseph.
And of course, a huge thanks to my incredible, brilliant

(47:41):
co contributor, doctor dais Aim. Thank you so much for
always bringing your expertise in insight. Definitely check out doctor
Daisy at the Polish Beauty podcast. And that's a wrap
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Stock Exchange, at least on Fintech TV. I know you're
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but I am thrilled to welcome you to the show today.

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Speaker 15 (49:23):
I'm really glad to be on watching what.

Speaker 14 (49:25):
You've created in the media space, endured the entrepreneurial growth pains,
all the things that we experience, and to be doing
it in media and pioneered the way you do. You've
really been an inspiration and a model for us here
at Fintech TV.

Speaker 15 (49:39):
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You on today.

Speaker 7 (49:41):
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Speaker 15 (49:43):
You know you're reporting stuff that the rest of the
media are and reporting. And I think the Newsmax story
is really a great story that just is not getting
the Financial Times to the story. Yesterday, we have a
link on newsmax dot com to it where they said,
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very credible company. It's going to make lots of money.
It's got a lot of way to make money with

(50:03):
the way cable license fees work and everything else. But
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Speaker 14 (50:11):
Well, let's get into that a little bit, right, when
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giving you that seal of approval saying hey, done right,
there's a lot here. What do we have to do
differently here Stateside? How do we get media out there
to continue to grow and get messaging out that's important
to communities.

Speaker 15 (50:29):
Well, what's great is the old gate keepers are going
right the distribution points. Now, we love cable. It's been
a market. We're growing too. It's constricting, but we believe
live news and sports will still do really well and
we're part of that. People will be very robust for
at least ten years. But we're in the streaming side.
We're in the OTT platforms, the digit nets on broadcasts,

(50:50):
all of that's going to be the future. And so
we're doing both and you're doing this as well. So
it's great and I think there'll be other technologies coming
up too that will be impacting broadcasting and the way
information is disseminated, and we want to be there on
we're reaching about forty million Americans right now. Wow, that's
a big number.

Speaker 14 (51:11):
That's a huge number, and I think, you know, maybe
the fourth largest in the country where we look.

Speaker 15 (51:16):
At it, well, of cable channels, and according to the
Nielsen Cover training, we're number seven of all cable channels,
which is amazing, I mean, out of hundreds of cable channels.
The other thing is the Rutgers Institute came out with
a study last year which said that there are only
twelve top US news media brands, and news Max was
one of them, and they're all billion dollar companies for
the most part. And now we're now joining that club,

(51:38):
and it's I think appropriate. We came out with a
market cap of one point one billion the market saying
we value Newsmas, we see its potential. The shares have
gone up, they're settling down a little bit, which is good,
but you know, my focus is going to be on
the company results, not the share price.

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