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You're listening to a Moment of Zen right here on
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I'm your host, Zen Sam's this week on a Moment
of Zen and the Hydration with Heart segment brought to
you by one Spawn a Coconut. We're diving into the
world of college football with a coach who knows exactly
how to turn programs into powerhouses. Dan Mullen, the new

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head coach of UNLB football, brings nearly three decades of experience,
one hundred and three career wins, and a legacy that
includes grooming NFL greats like Tim Tebow and Alex Smith.
He's led teams to top ten national finishes, an SEC
championship game appearance in eight straight bowl games.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
That's a ton.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Now he's bringing the same championship mindset to the Rebels
with a focus on culture, recruiting, and building a team
that thrives not only on.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
The field but in life.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
And as NFL a legend Vince Lombardi once said, leaders
aren't born, They are made, and they are made just
like anything else, through hard work. That can be more
fitting as coach Maulin ushers in a new era for UNLV,
the Rebel renaissance. We're gonna chat how there's a new
era for UNLV football, how he's redefining culture, recruiting, and

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expectations for the team.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Welcome to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 7 (04:37):
It's great to be with you. It's a beautiful day
here in Las Vegas.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
It is a beautiful day everywhere.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
And let's chat about the culture shift.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Okay, So culture isn't just a buzzword, right, coach, It's
the backbone, I believe of every successful program we've seen.
How you transformed Florida from unranked to a top ten
program in just one season and missus Be stayed into
a number one ranking during your tenure. So what's the
cultural reset you're instilling at UNLV and how do you

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get players to buy into a new vision right from
day one?

Speaker 7 (05:12):
Well, I think one of the most important things when
you take over a program you have to have a
great understanding of where the program is. And UNLV, when
I took over in December, is coming off an eleven
win season. UNLV was successful last year and their coach
moved on and so I think one of the things
I met with all the players when I got here
and the guys that we retained, we brought a lot

(05:33):
of new faces and over I think sixty percent of
our roster's brand new players, either from recruiting or transfer portal.
But the guys that were here, I said, hey, I
have my culture, my thoughts, my way of doing things.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
I'm going to install. I know how to do it.

Speaker 7 (05:48):
I've been successful at a lot of places, but I
also want you to share what you've done here well
that you want me to incorporate in how I do things.
And I know people think they're on national TV. They're
getting paid now. There a lot of them are celebrities,
but they're still young college kids. You know, they're eighteen
to twenty two years old most of them, and you

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have to sit there and figure out how you're going
to motivate them into becoming successful and if they think
that you care about them and you can help them accomplish.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
Their goals, they're going to believe in what you're doing.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
And that's one of the things I wanted to make
sure we brought in is our new way of doing
things is going to merge with how they've been.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
Successful here in the past. To get everyone to buy
in and believe in the culture that we're trying to build,
which that culture is how to be successful.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
That's right, and that's so powerful, especially in today's college
football landscape where culture often determines whether a team can
sustain success, which brings me to recruiting is the lifeblood
of college football. With these and with these nil deals,
coach and the transfer portal reshaping the landscape. You NLV
is in the perfect city to attract top tier athletes, right,

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So how do you plan to leverage Las Vegas a
recruiting tool and bring sec level talent and mentality to UNLV.

Speaker 7 (07:05):
Well, you know, we're the sports and entertainment capital of
the world, and right here, I think in the transfer
portal world, it kind of helps us. There's a lot
of these guys have gone out, they've played at a
lot of different schools and they look and they say, hey,
the development within our program. We take a lot of
pride in development. That's one thing that gets lost in
the transfer portal world is a lot of guys are

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going in and they say, hey, I got to play
right now, I need this, I need stats. And I
sit down with everybody and I say, listen, if you
if you're not worried about your development, you're not going
to improve. You're not going to become the player you
need to be. So if you come here to u
n LB, we are going to develop you as a
football player on the field.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
We're also going to help you off the field.

Speaker 7 (07:47):
But you know a lot of the guys in today's
world they want to hear, how can you help me
be a better football player? Yeah, you have unbelievable facilities
here you get to do it. We played a Legion
stadium which we share with the Raiders, So you're doing
the top in one of the best stadium in all
of the country. Ed, you have the lifestyle of Las
Vegas with you. We're the only school in the country.
We're now in the age of nil where part of

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the nil deals are. Our guys are ringsided. UFC and
championship boxing fights. You have the Vegas Knights in talent.
Guys are at Raiders games, They're at every Las Vegas
show you could want. We have every restaurant, every type
of whatever you're interested in. Las Vegas offers it for you.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Vegas really does sell itself.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
And I'm reminded of I keep going back to these
quotes Dion Sanders at Colorado who said, if.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
You look good, you feel good, and if you feel good,
you play good.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
And that's Vegas in a nutshell. And you're giving players
a stage that's.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Hard to match.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
So really, really, Now, you've coached some of the greatest
quarterbacks of our time, from Tim Tebow to Alex Smith,
and quarterbacks are often the heartbeat of a program.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
So what's your philosophy on quarterback development?

Speaker 4 (08:54):
And how do you plan to shape you in all
these offense around the talent you inherit.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
And recruit Josh Hairs, a Bowling Green and Alex Smith,
Tim Tebow all the way up to Dak Press got
at Misissippi State, who's now the Cowboys, and Anthony Kalandjard
quarterback here. If you lined all my quarterbacks up, you'd
say there's no way that all of these guys were
successful running the same offense. Some are big, some are small,
some are fast, some are slow, some can really throw

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the ball, some are much better runners.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
And the h I get through.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
With what's important at the quarterback position starts with mental
and physical toughness because they are inherently the leaders of
the team. I would say this, if you if you
miss one class, that tells everybody else they can miss five.
If you know, if you miss one run, everybody else
can miss five. So you have got to have the
mental and physical toughness to do it right.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
At all times.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
I love the scenario.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
They have to have great leadership, all right.

Speaker 7 (09:53):
They have to have the ability that the team believes,
as long as we have this guy at our quarterback,
we can win the game, no matter what the situation,
what the scenario. We have our quarterback, and if we
have him, we have the opportunity to win the game.
I think that is so if you have metal, physical
toughness leadership. The third one that people miss a lot

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is how you process information. And if you look at
great quarterbacks, you know I in life there's not a
lot of things. Again, we get into human nature where
I need you to take the ball, drop back, stand still.
Why a three hundred pounds man is trying to come
and hit you as hard as they possibly can, But
you don't pay attention to that. You just process information

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down the field. There's about thirty things we ask our
quarterbacks to process within about a lot of times within
about three seconds. The fourth one is intelligence. Right, the
smarter they are, the more we can do. If they
have those four things.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
They have what's.

Speaker 7 (10:49):
Called the it, and you take that Tom Brady's of
the world, everybody. Those are guys that had the it.
Now the coach's job is then take how well do
you throw? What throws?

Speaker 6 (10:58):
Can you do well? Right? How fast are you? Can
you run? Can you do these things? And design the
offense and the plays. We're going to run around that.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
As long as they have those other trades, which are
the important in factor trades.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Which brings me to competing on the national stage.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
So you've proven you can lead teams to national prominence,
and we have Florida climb back the top ten and
Mississippi State reach number one under your leadership, What will
it take for UNLV to not only compete for Mountain
West titles? But also earn national respect on the bigger
college football stage.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
The goal for us, as always and when you look
at things, is worry about what you can control. If
we can get better every single day as a team,
if we can reach our potential every day, just be
the best we can be today, We'll put ourselves in
the opportunity to win them Out West Championship. If we
win the Mount West Championship, we've put ourselves on the

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raidar for that radar, for that committee to give us
the opportunity to go vote for the playoffs. If we
get for the playoffs, let's just worry about being the
best we can be in that game. And if we
can find a way to do that, all of a sudden,
UNLV is going to be back on the national stage,
which you know, probably the school in athletics hasn't been
since the running Rebels of the early nineties with the

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basketball program.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
But you know, I.

Speaker 7 (12:13):
Think that that build up for us, you know, we
we kind of have a model. I want to try
to play. There's a lot of people say, hey, how
do you set up schedules? I want to try to
play as the toughest schedule we can schedule, play you know,
we're out there, we're college schools. Please come play us,
We'll play you, And a lot of bigger conference schools
are kind of saying no, we're okay, thanks, we don't

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want to play to you right now. But you know,
I mean, that's that's kind of part of the deal
is how do we get ourselves that way? We'll play anyone, anywhere, anytime,
and if we can win them out lest championship, get
into college football playoffs, we have the name. We have
the opportunity then to make a statement on the national stage.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
And that's what you need, you know.

Speaker 7 (12:53):
We I've talked about it to our guys in certain games. Right,
you want to have these great moments in life, which
is winning football games. But to have that, you have
to have the opportunity to present itself. But the shame
is you also have to be prepared when that opportunity
presents itself, you know, I mean, you know, if you
want to have great moments in life, you have to
have opportunity. But not just have opportunity, you have to

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be prepared when that opportunity presents itself. And if you're
completely prepared for that opportunity, you get to create a
great moment for yourself.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Preach, there you go.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
And Bill, and Bill Belichick is going to tell you
right onto the next game.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Success comes.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
It comes when those little wins add up into something historic.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
And I love I love that.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
It's about taking the long view and building a foundation
brick by brick, and that's what you seem.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
To be doing. So let's chat leadership beyond football.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
So, seventy six of your players have been drafted into
the NFL, but your legacy also extends to shaping men
of character.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Way beyond who succeed beyond football.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Right, So how do you balance preparing athletes for the
NFL with prepared them for life after football?

Speaker 7 (14:01):
Well, I think you know. I mean, you say, and
that's so great. I've had seventy six, but I've coached
so many more than seven. I've coached thousands of guys,
which means major A lot don't make it to the NFL.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
And I think you know.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
One of the things that you look, I think football
can teach you so many great lessons in life. And
I tell our guys, if you just take the lesson
you learn in our program and you apply it to
other facets of life, it's going to work for you
the path to success.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
And I try to do this for all of our.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
Guys and again and trying to keep things simple, you know,
and as you see when you do interviews, right or
anybody that's listening, what's one thing they can take away
from this? Even if so if I get you get
too in depth and too complicated. They it's too complicated
to take things with you. I share with all our guys.
Just let's keep it simple. The path to success in life,

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whether you're on the football field, whether you want to
go to med school, whether you want to media career, okay,
you want to get into law enforcement, or you want
to open your own restaurant, And it starts with one.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Hard work. You have to be.

Speaker 7 (15:03):
Willing to put in hard work, okay, And that is
a lot of people are scared of hard work. A
lot of people don't want to work hard because just
because you work hard, there's no guarantee of success. But
if you don't work hard, there is guarantee that you
won't succeed. So you have to work hard one and
be willing to do it. Two, you have to make sacrifices. Okay,

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you don't get what you want in life, you just don't, okay,
But if you work hard, you can get what you need.
So if you're willing to make work hard and you're
willing to put in the sacrifices next, which in today's
world we live in this instant gratification society, most people
they don't want to do it. Most people are going
to give up right before the end, which gets you

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to the third step, which is commitment.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
So if I can work hard, I'm willing to.

Speaker 7 (15:52):
Make sacrifices and I'm committed to accomplishing my goal, you
can really accomplish. And I think you want okay in
this life and in this world, but that's not easy
to do.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
It's really easy to say, really hard to do.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Coach, this has been such an energizing conversation and your
vision for UNLB football is nothing short of inspiring, and
it's clear that a rebel renaissance is.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
On the horizon.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Let's hope.

Speaker 7 (16:17):
Soeer, we've got to keep a win and keep finding
ways to win every league, but more importantly, keep.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Finding ways to get better every single week. That's the
most important thing we can control.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
You said it.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
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program on UNLV Rebels dot Com and across social media
at UNLV football and at coach Dan Mullen.

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chatting neuroscience meets Hollywood, The Actor's Mind and right Brain Resilience.
Jonathan Check, Doctor Robert Malillo, and the incredible Ellismlillo a
groundbreaking conversation at the intersection of science and storytelling, exploring
how right brain dominance fuels artistry, how brain balance shapes
mental health and resilience, and why understanding the neurological roots

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of creativity matters now more than ever in the entertainment industry.
Jonathan Check is an actor, writer, and producer with over
one hundred and sixty credits, from That Thing You Do
to his.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Current role in Blue Ridge on Prime.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Jonathan's career reflects both resilience and reinvention. Doctor Milillo, one
of the world's top brain researchers and authors, author of
Disconnected Kids, is pioneering work and brain balance. He's transformed
the way we understand neurological and mental health conditions.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
And Ellis Milillo.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
She's an incredible singer songwriter whose raw storytelling and powerful
vocals are carving out her own space in the music world,
bringing a peer artist's lens to mental health and creativity.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
We're going to kick off a powerful explanation right.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Now on how that creativity and logic colliding.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Welcome to the show, superstars, Thank you for having us.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
Great to be here again, happy to be back, happy
to see you.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Okay, so let's dive right in, Jonathan.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Research shows actors are twice as likely to report depression
compared to the general workforce. And when you think about
your career, have there been any moments where mental health
struggled were a part of your journey or had?

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Did you navigate them itself?

Speaker 8 (19:01):
I think I navigated them by using drugs and alcohol
to ease the pain of it, get away from it.
It's pretty constant, the judging yourself, comparing yourself.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
The failure rate.

Speaker 8 (19:15):
You know, you have to learn how to have resilience
because you get turned down more than anything. So yeah,
I found I found alcohol and I found drugs to
get through most of it until I decided not to
do that.

Speaker 9 (19:27):
Thank you for sharing that.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
I mean, it's so important right now for people listening
and watching to hear the human side behind the Hollywood image.

Speaker 9 (19:34):
So thank you for that, Doctor Milltle. I'll hand it
off to you.

Speaker 10 (19:37):
You know a lot of people get confused, Jonathan, by
by anxiety and depression because it's all lumped together as
words and it doesn't mean anything from a neuroscience perspective.
They're completely different areas of the brain. Depression really involves
more of a left brain deficit. Anxiety is more of
a you know, could be a right brain deficit or
right brain over activity. So that's why it gets confusing,

(19:58):
like what am I feeling? Is it or is it depressed?
So that left brain right brain dichotomy. In acting, like,
we had a singer songwriter who was telling us how,
you know, his ability to read words and memorize the
words was so hard because he was dyslexic that it
affected and impacted is is you know when he went

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to sing and they get frustrated with him. So in
acting you have to use the right brain creative, emotional,
but then there's the left brain of memorizing lines and reading.
And do you find that that's a struggle and has
that ever triggered any issues or anxiety for you?

Speaker 8 (20:35):
Yeah, so I'm dyslexic. I didn't know that until I
was older, in my forties.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
So I struggled a great deal.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
Because I just thought I was stupid and I couldn't
do things that other people were doing easily.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
People could look at the words.

Speaker 8 (20:48):
And memorize them right away and just regurgitate them. But
I did find the gifts in it that though the
struggle of me trying to memorize it made me really
understand it really deeply.

Speaker 10 (21:00):
Just so you know, like half of the artists in
all different creative fields that we talk with are basically dyslexic,
and that is a left brain delay, but it's because
they're so gifted in the right brain and.

Speaker 11 (21:12):
That's what can hold that back. So that's your gift
is also related to that. So that's yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 12 (21:19):
Yeah I'm I'm dyslexic as well, So that's that's a
lot of why we started all this because also I
relate to what you're saying. I stopped drinking forty seven
days ago, but it's normally something that I feel like
I use for my anxiety. You know, like once I
had like two drinks then I feel like I could
have normal conversations with people and kind of calm down

(21:41):
a little bit. So I've been trying to just stay
consistent with that and navigate it in other ways. But yeah,
that's why I was wondering if you've ever used like
your craft of acting or writing or producing as an
outlet for your mental health challenges.

Speaker 8 (21:57):
I have, you know, I had an acting teacher who
named Roy London that put in in my brain that
the roles will come to you and there's going to
be something in them that you have to work through
to get closer to your true self and your truth.
So I found myself like, you know what, after a breakup,

(22:17):
I play a guy. It was heartbroken, you know, so
I would I felt like I was living that life,
that's what you mean, Like, I felt like it was
meant for me as an artist to play.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
The role and coming full circle? Who are you playing now?

Speaker 9 (22:31):
If you think of it, right, I'm well, my father
right right?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
But how fitting is that because that you stepped into
that role?

Speaker 6 (22:39):
Right?

Speaker 4 (22:39):
And which brings me to when you look at the
reports the CDC reports that one in five adults live
with a mental illness or mental health distorted. But stigma
often keeps people silent, right, So have you personally faced.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
That stigma in Hollywood?

Speaker 9 (22:53):
And what would you say to break it for the
next generation of actors.

Speaker 8 (22:56):
I did have something that I spoke out about was
I was sexually abused by a director in the early
my very first screen test, and I never truly understood
what had happened until the Me Too movement happened and
Rose McGowan spoke out about what happened to her with
Harvey Weinstein. It was exactly my life, and I was sober,
so I was able to hear it and accept it.

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And then there was a lot of work on it,
and then I spoke out and I shared with my
experience because I thought there's not many men talking about this,
and I had enough faith and conviction that I could
get through. But I was scienced. After I did, it
felt like I was scienced. I don't know if I
were sence.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Well, yeah, and you were twenty two when that happened, right,
you were a boy.

Speaker 9 (23:41):
I mean, sure you were a man, but you were
still little.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
And that director, you know, we could say his name,
Franco Zepharelli, cast you as the lead in his movie Sparrow,
and that was in nineteen ninety two. So being sexually
abused by him during that, that's trauma that you kept
quiet for twenty five years, Jonathan, I mean, and coming
out and saying it and really empowering yourself and others

(24:05):
and learning to deal with that.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
That's no easy feat.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
And number one, thank you for being transparent, but thank
you for coping with it in a way where you've
showed grace and humility throughout your entire career without making
that the focal point of your demise.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
Right, it's right, yeah, yeah, no, wow, thank you.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (24:28):
Was there a roll or project where you felt most
vulnerable and what did that vulnerability teach you about yourself?

Speaker 8 (24:34):
Well, that thing you do. I had to be a
singer in it, and I knew that they weren't going
to use my voice. So one thing that happened was ZEPHYRELLI.
So after he came into my room that night of
the screen test, and then I had to make a
movie with him, and I've you know, I couldn't avoid him.
I was with them all throughout filming. You tried to

(24:55):
come back in my room and I wouldn't let him,
and he d is another actor's voice to dub my voice.
So I had this great fear that my all the
hard work that I had done as an artist was
going to be taken away from me. Because when my
first movie comes out, it's not going to be my voice.
I worked really hard, and so when I was playing
that thing you do and they took my voice, they

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didn't take my voice away. They told me before I
started that I wasn't going to have my voice. I
had this disconnect between my character and the singing part,
and I just so personal and it wasn't that. And
so I really I've struggled a great deal with that,
and that was the hardest thing, that it wasn't my voice.

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But they took great care of me, and they told
me it wasn't because of my voice. But you can
imagine I was the one had this hidden secret. You know,
you dubbed my voice in the movie because all of
this stuff, it was just layered.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
So how have you built this resilience that I'm seeing
right now and kept your passion alive after decades in
such a demanding industry both mentally, physically and emotionally.

Speaker 8 (26:02):
My mother my father instilled a great deal of faith
in me. And my father, you know, he knew he
didn't know how to help me.

Speaker 11 (26:10):
With my careers.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
He's a cop.

Speaker 8 (26:11):
He would pray for me, and all he get doing
was trying to give me a faith, so because he
knew that the faith I could carry in the darkest
of times, and that was true. I think I held
on to my faith through these dark times even though
I couldn't understand what had happened to me, well what
was happening, I still had a love for power greater

(26:32):
than myself. And you know, once I was able to,
I got through everything.

Speaker 11 (26:38):
Through my faith.

Speaker 8 (26:38):
I got everything through my faith.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
I was a bider because of my.

Speaker 11 (26:42):
Faith and resilience.

Speaker 10 (26:43):
By the way, is a right brain function is literally
networks in the brain and it is nurtured by parents,
especially in early childhood. So you know your parents had
something to do with nurturing that part of your brain.
But also you were born with this natural creativity that's
your trait. But I know that, you know, raising a
creative right bring daughter and having other children that are

(27:06):
incredibly talented, that family, fatherhood mentorship has always provided balance
for me in my life, and especially during difficult times
when you're focusing on your children.

Speaker 11 (27:18):
Do you feel that way as well as it helped
you during those times?

Speaker 8 (27:22):
Oh? My God, Absolutely, having children balances everything and it
makes me really take pause a lot more and I'm
very grateful for the presence that I have with them
that I didn't have when I was younger. They definitely
make me want to be a better human being and
to protect them from the things that you were talking

(27:42):
about earlier.

Speaker 11 (27:43):
But that's me.

Speaker 8 (27:44):
My father, very creative, credible artist, and he gifted me
all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
So this has been a very deeply moving conversation. Jonathan.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
I want to thank you for your honesty and your vulnerability,
and to doctor Robert Malilo and Elililo.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
For guiding us through the science and artistry of the
right and left brains. Thank you so much, and of
course to our listeners.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
To check out Jonathan Sheck in Blue Ridge, you can
find him directly on Prime Video, and you can check
him out directly on the Gram at John Check that's
j O H N sc H A E c H.
And to learn more about doctor Robert Mililo, you can
check him out on his website at doctor Robertmlilo dot
com and on the Gram at doctor Robert Mililo. And

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to check out Ellis, you can check her out on
ig at Velvet, Ellis Underscore, and at the Right Brain Podcast.
This has been the Right Brain segment on a Moment
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Speaker 5 (29:30):
Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
You're listening to a Moment of Zen right here on
seven ten WAR The Voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm
your host, Zen SAMs, Welcome back. To the Going Deep segment,
brought to you by Co two Lift. We're joined by
Christina Menisov. She's a singer, a songwriter, an international model.
She's graced the covers of Vogue, Latam La Fam l Arabia.

(29:53):
She's walked the runways of New York Fashion Week, Los
Angeles Fashion Week, and Miami Swim Week. On the music side,
blends her classical opera training with contemporary pop, releasing charting
singles with powerhouse producers like Andrew Layne. Her latest single,
Gayshap entered the iTunes charts at number ninety four, and
her soulful cover of Smooth Operator has surpassed one million

(30:17):
YouTube views. She's been named Best Music Influencer and a
rising star in music. She's bridging the worlds of fashion
and global music, all while being a devoted mama.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
That's right. Welcome to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 13 (30:30):
Thank you so much, Zen, I'm so happy to be here.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
iHeart, I'm so excited to have you.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
So let's take it back growing up. Did you always
see yourself pursuing both music and modeling or did one
passion come first? And how did you break into both industries?

Speaker 5 (30:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (30:47):
So originally I'm from Kazakhstan and that's where I went
to the music Conservatory to be an opera singer. For
the longest time, I didn't want to be just a
pretty face. I wanted to be more, to leave a
mark in a history, and I kept proving and proving
to all my teachers that I'm not just a pretty face.
I went to Italy after that to continue my classical training,

(31:12):
but then.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Oh well, I fell in.

Speaker 13 (31:14):
Love, got pregnant and had to take a break from music. Eventually,
modeling came into my life as a way to provide,
but it opened so many doors and built my confidence
at the right time, and during COVID, that's when I
came back to music. I started writing and expressing all
my emotions and here I am. That's an exciting both

(31:39):
worlds that I love now and I accepted all of me.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
And you combined it so eloquently with being a mother
and embracing that better version of yourself.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
And the fashion industry is often seen as surface level
what we call but in reality it's incredibly demanding, both
mentally and physically. I was signed to Elite New York
when I was seven. I lived that world.

Speaker 13 (32:02):
I can tell gorgeous.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
Yes, so you know what it's about.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
You've represented Chapard, Michael Costello, Javenshi, Yaseli.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
I read so many Balmin and Cardier.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
That's my favorite.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
So you've said your diverse appearance has been both a
challenge and an ascid.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
In your Instagram bio, you probably.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
State that you're making ethnically ambiguous a trend. So can
you share a moment when your appearance was a challenge
and a moment when it was a clear advantage.

Speaker 13 (32:33):
So my mom is Kazakhstani Asian and my dad is
Ethiopian black, and growing up I kept hearing that it's
going to be my asset right. But then when I
entered the modeling ward world, I started going to castings,
but it was hard for people to process where should
we put her with?

Speaker 5 (32:51):
Right.

Speaker 13 (32:51):
I would arrive to castings when it says Asian and
they'll be like, well, sorry, not Asian enough. Then there
would be like this scription we're looking for black models.
I arrive and they're like, well, your light skinned. And
I kept doubting myself. I was like, is it true
or I'm kind of like in between, and it's yes,
it's cool. I could be versatile and I could manage.

(33:14):
But honestly, if they're looking for something, why would they
have met who is half instead of just actually having
person who represents But then I had I guess to
change my mindset and that helped. I decided that I
will turn it into my superpower.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
And instead of trying to fit.

Speaker 13 (33:34):
Into a box, I started building my own brand, my
own label just for people, not to for like brands.
If they want to connect with me, it's because Christina
Miniso right, It's not necessarily because I need to fit
in that box or into another or that audition. It's
because they want to work with me. And I think

(33:54):
that helped. And now eventually I think I'm representing all
the mixed kids who aren't.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
You're there everywhere.

Speaker 13 (34:01):
But in the meantime, nowhere so we can have we
can be everything. We don't have to fit into box.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Now, this past July, you released your single Gisha with
a video on the way.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
It's going to be out any moment now.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
But when it comes to your music, what inspires your
songwriting and creative process, and beyond your own artistic expression,
what do you hope listeners take away from your songs.

Speaker 13 (34:22):
Gisha was inspired by memoirs of Geisha that I was
a child when I watched it, and that's how I
opened up the whole new world for myself and I
started reading about it. It was fascinating. Giche is an
artists and also being from Muslim country, I had these
stigmas that being sexy and intimate is not good and

(34:45):
it's not right, and maybe it could be something to
be ashamed of.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
But learning more about.

Speaker 13 (34:51):
This culture and I realized that there's nothing to be
ashamed of being beautiful, sexual, intimate, because it actually helps
to discover yourself in her and outside world as well.
And that's how I started working. I went to the
studio with Dendre Lane and I told him the idea.
We started working in the process, and I distributed it

(35:11):
with Universal Music Group, with my n R, with Held Out,
my Amazing an R, LU Channel Lane, and Alpha Recordings Group.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
That resonates because streaming platforms.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Really show that listeners are more likely to connect with
music when they identify a personal story and in the lyrics. Now,
whether it's Fashion Week or Vogue Covers, Soul Dot Concert,
or the Blue Carpet premiere of Smurfs.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
With your son.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
I mean, you're constantly in the public eye and with
so much focused on your appearance, how do you prioritize
skincare because your skin is flawless? And where do treatments
like CO two Lift fit into your beauty routine to
keep your complexion runway or blue carpet ready.

Speaker 13 (35:53):
Okay, THEO to lift fits into my purse. That's how
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Speaker 9 (36:04):
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Speaker 5 (36:05):
Okay, pulled it right out of her bag. I know
because I have it with me.

Speaker 13 (36:09):
If I have an hour and I feel like, for example,
yesterday I took a red eye and then I have
a casting after that, and I have a premiere of
Downtown Abbey, so and my skin didn't look as good
and I was like, okay, which is gonna Like, I
have help. We're just gonna make those two things. It's
gonna become a jelly you put on your skin. It's
better if you can have it in your on your

(36:30):
skin for forty five to an out for forty five
minutes to an hour. It looks so funny when it's on,
but you can make a bunch of tiktoks.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
So we're keep going. We're working while hydrating.

Speaker 13 (36:41):
And then eventually you peel it off and my skin
looked glowing. SE made it today, and I'm gonna do
it after that, because in between, I'll have to change
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Speaker 3 (37:00):
You and me are speaking the same language. Now let's
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Speaker 4 (37:03):
You're juggling to demanding careers but also your single mom.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
So how do you balance it all?

Speaker 3 (37:08):
How do you personally recharge?

Speaker 5 (37:11):
The secret is I don't I'm joking. Yeah, no, I
I am.

Speaker 13 (37:14):
I'm trying to juggling at all, and I think the
most important thing is to stay at the moment. If
I'm going to a casting, I'm gonna focus on that.
But if I'm coming home, I'm gonna be focused on
my son. I'm just gonna like move everything away and
sometimes not attentive mom, it could be even worse than
absent person. So if if like, if I'm so tired

(37:37):
that I just think I need an app then I
just I'd rather go and take a nap and feel
myself recharged. Philip steinsleeve bracelet helps me with that sleep
beautifully right. But then eventually I come fully recharged. I
can go singing, sing the songs to my son, to myself,
the lalladvis.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
And soothing moments.

Speaker 13 (37:56):
With the people I love help me to continue juggling
at all.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Yeah, that's inspiring. We all have a purpose. You clearly
have yours. It's been very inspiring interviewing you, and I
wish you nothing but success.

Speaker 13 (38:08):
Thank you so much, Zen, I'm so happy to be here,
and thank you Cio to livet while.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
That was the incredible powerhouse Christina Manisov. Follow her on
Instagram at Christina Manisov and at Christinamnislov dot com and
keep up with her latest music and campaigns.

Speaker 5 (38:22):
She's all over social.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
You definitely want to tune into her inspiring music, incredible
music videos and more importantly, incredible voice.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
We're talking opera trained here.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area. You're listening to a
moment of zen right here on seven to ten, wore
the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your hosts Zenzam's
welcome back to the Better Brighter You segment brought to
you by Spera. From the Stadium to the skincare clinic,
Doctor Leah Mack is here to break it all down
on winning against sun, sweat, and skin stress. Doctor Mac

(41:39):
is a board certified dermatologist and founder of Glamderm with
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Speaker 5 (41:45):
She's widely recognized.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
For her expertise in both medical and cosmetic dermatology, with
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a mentor to countless young women pursuing careers in medicine. Today,
we're chatting how athletes extreme environments reveal lessons that every

(42:10):
New Yorker can use for healthier, brighter skin with solutions
that highlight the role of advanced treatments like sispera.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
We're going to break it all down.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Dr Mac Welcome to the show, Superstar. Hi, thank you, Zan,
thanks for having me.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
So this athlete analogy is a lot is an analogy
that feels close to a lot of New Yorkers because
New York athletes are no strangers to environmental extremes. The
Yankees and Mets under blazing summer sun, the Giants and
Jets battling freezing December winds, and in many ways, those
same forces impact the skin of everyday New Yorkers who walk, commute,

(42:49):
and live in these climates year round. So, from a
dermatology standpoint, what unique skin challenges do we New Yorkers
and the New York athletes mostant face compared to those
in milder climates, and how do those challenges mirror what
everyday New Yorkers deal with in their own routines.

Speaker 15 (43:09):
We New Yorkers and New York athletes definitely face unique
challenges in our environment, primarily because of seasonal variation.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
So we have these.

Speaker 15 (43:20):
Extremely cold, dry winters and these excruciatingly hot, dry or
humid rather summers, and so during the winter months, athletes
struggle with dry skin or zerosis, as well as chapped lips, windburn,
and frostbite. People think that the UV index during the

(43:42):
winter months is extremely low, and while that is true, skiers,
for example, are extremely at extremely high risk for you
the exposure and or photo damage because of the reflection
of the sun off of the ice and the snow.
In the same way, during the summer months they're the youth,
the index shoots up and we are at risk for

(44:02):
photo damage and which increases ultimately our risk of skin cancer.
But also because we live in an urban environment, right,
so there are tons of allergens and pollutants, people are
at a higher risk for let's say, contact allergens as
well as flares in egziba. Right, So let's not forget

(44:23):
that we live in a city and there are tons
of allergens and pollutants in our environment that we come
to contact with day to day.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
Oh yeah, so much toxicity.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
And you're right, and that perspective reminds us that skin
stress isn't just about age or beauty, but really about
the environments we push through every single day.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
So thank you for that reminder. Now, let's chat.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Skin is the defensive line in football, the defensive line
protects the quarterback.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
It's literally the first shield.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Our skin plays the same role for our body, protecting
us against those pollutants that you've talked about, those that bacteria,
those UV rays, and so much more. But just like
in sports, when that defense weakens, performance suffers. So how
does our skin serve as the body's first line of
defense and what are the key factors that can compromise
that barrier.

Speaker 15 (45:11):
Our epidermis, which is the outermost layer of the skin,
serves to protect our skin from physical trauma like scratches
or abrasions. But in addition, it also has acts as
a chemical barrier, So through our sweat, we're able to
release antimicrobial properties that protect us against bacteria and other organisms.

(45:33):
In addition, our skin has an immune defense, right, so
we're able to protect ourselves from viruses and bacteria in
the environment, and some people don't really understand that our
skin helps to prevent dehydration. Our skin barrier is a
very important part of the skin that helps us to
hold onto moisture, preventing us from becoming dehydrated. And lastly,

(45:58):
our skin the melanin in our skin. So the darker
your skin type, the more your skin protects you against
UV radiation and the oxidative stress that comes along with
photo damage.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Yeah, and now let's chat sun and hyperpigmentation. So hyperpigmentation
is one of the top concerns in dermatology and athletes.
Athletes face constant triggers saun exposure, friction from gear, even
skin injuries. So for patients of color these effects can
be especially stubborn and very frustrating. So what role do

(46:30):
sun friction and injury plan in the development of hyperpigmentation
and where do clinically proven options like suspara fit into
prevention and treatment strategies.

Speaker 15 (46:40):
I mean, we know that sun exposure is the number
one driving force in melanin production from our melanocytes. So
if you're having tons of sun exposure, you're putting yourself
at higher risk for things like malasma, post inflammatory hyperpigmentation,
and h spots. So you want to minimize sun exposure,

(47:01):
but friction. For example, I had a patient who's wearing
a very tight hat on a very sunny day and
that hat kept rubbing on her forehead. She ended up
getting these massive hyperpigmented patches because the hat just didn't
fit her head. And then lastly, if your skin is injured,
like let's say you're constantly getting nicks and cuts, it
creates an environment of inflammation and so part of the

(47:24):
skin's natural healing process is to produce melanin, and so
with injury you have increased melanin production and thus hyperpigmentation.
There are a number of things that we can do,
but cispara is definitely one of my first line treatments.
I love the fact that you're able to apply it
to a very broad area without essentially bleaching the skin.

(47:47):
It contains a molecule call systumine that is an antioxidant
that basically helps to digest pigment or melanin in the
skin and also reduce pigment production. In addition to sispara,
we do all for a number of chemical peels and
laser treatments.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
I love that because hyperpigmentation affects so many people and
it's empowering to know that there are safe, evidence based
options that actually work.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Now, let's chat designing a skin training program.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
So athletes and people who exercise a lot follow rigorous
training regiments to perform at their best, and I imagine
our skin would benefit from that same kind of disciplined,
structured care, something more intentional than just a random collection
of products. So to say, so, if you were designing
a simple skin training program for New Yorkers, what daily

(48:38):
habits and treatments would be essential for keeping skin brighter, stronger,
and more resilient.

Speaker 15 (48:44):
As a native New Yorker, I'm always in a rush,
So for New Yorkers, I think that creating a regimen
that is simple is best. You do not need a
twelve step skincare routine. You just need the right products. So,
for example, if you're suffering from hyper pigmentation, you could
use a product like Cispera before starting your actual skincare regimen.

(49:05):
So Sispa, for example, is applied to dirty skin in
the morning. I have preferred to it in the morning dirty, dirty,
so you need a little bit of oil. The studies
showed that if it was applied to clean skin, it
was more irritating. So when I apply it to my
molasm on my upper lip, I'm waking up, not washing
my phase, applying it and then getting ready for my day.

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So very simply after I use my SISTERA and for
New Yorkers, other New Yorkers, I would recommend a very
simple skin he routine. When I think about skincare, I
simply think during the day, protect, At night you repair.
So during the day you want to protect with something
that's an antioxidant like vitamin C and an SPF thirty
or higher. At night to repair, you want to use

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a retinoid or a vitamin A derivative coupled with a moisturizer.

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Simple, effective and to the point.

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Just like New Yorkers, Just like New Yorkers.

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incredible insights. I mean, from stadium sidelines to city sidewalks.
I know our skin is working over time, and hearing
your strategies for keeping it strong and bright was truly inspiring.

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