Dr. Nathan Bryan; Dr. Jen Fraboni; Dr. Grant Stevens; Tilly Lockey

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of The Ultimate Body Podcast. We're chatting tension, breath and pain.
With nearly seventy percent of adults experiencing jaw clenching or
grinding unconsciously, We're gonna uncover what your job might be
telling you about the rest of your body, and we're
diving into the real connection between jaw tension, dysfunctional breathing patterns,
and stemic physical breakdown.

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that uplifts bold solutions and breakthroughs in the fight against Alzheimer's,
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we're spotlighting a story that's making international headlines. Can FDA
approved cancer drugs actually reverse Alzheimer's? Here to break it
all down is doctor Nathan Bryan, founder and CEO of

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Brian Therapeutics. We're chatting nitric oxide meets repurposed cancer drugs,
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To the WePlay It Forward Series, the one that uplifts
bold solutions and breakthroughs in the fight against Alzheimer's, brought
to you by the We Play It Forward Foundation, where community,
passion and research collide to move us one step closer
to a cure. Scientists at u CSF and the Gladstone
Institutes have discovered that two already FDA approved cancer drugs,

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Letrozol and Ironautican, can actually reverse Alzheimer's disease in mice,
including restoring lost memory. Yes, you heard that right, restored memory,
not just slowed decline. Now, this is a powerful departure
from what we've come to expect in a disease where
ninety nine percent.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Of drug trials have failed and current treatments only delayed
the inevitable.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
But joining us today is someone who has dedicated over
twenty five years to one of the most overlooked yet
critical molecular pathways in Alzheimer's disease, nitric oxide. Doctor Nathan
Bryan earned his PhD from LSU Health Shreveport and conducted
his postdoctoral fellowship at Boston University's Whittaker Cardiovascular Institute before
joining faculty at the University of Texas Health Science Center

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at Houston under Nobel Laureate Ferid Murad. Now he's the
founder and CEO of Brian Therapeutics, which is a clinical
stage biotech company advancing nitric oxide based therapies and heart disease,
chronic wounds, and now Alzheimer's. His work has shaped the
molecular framework through which we understand vascular dementia and neurodegeneration. Today,

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we're going to be chatting how nitric oxide meets repurposed
cancer drugs and are we finally reversing Alzheimer's. Let's break down,
the science, the hope, and the urgency.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Welcome to the show, superstar Zan, great to be with you,
Thanks for having me so excited. So let's start with
the news that has everyone buzzing.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
This UCSF Gladstone study look that nearly thirteen hundred FDA
approved drugs and found a surprising duo, the letrozol and
ironautic can that didn't just slow Alzheimer's progression in mice,
but actually reversed it. So I have to read that
twice even memory was restored. We don't often hear the
words reversal and Alzheimer's together, and yet here we are.

(06:55):
So from your scientific perspective, how significant is this breakthrough
and what does it tell us about the future of
Alzheimer's therapy.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Well, I think, as you mentioned, we have to put
it in the proper perspective. This study was done in
mice that are genetically engineered to develop symptoms of all
Alzheimer's and so again these are old repurposed drugs that
are targeted toward anti cancer. So these are what we
call a romatase inhibitors and type of type assomme race
inhibitor DNA asom race inhibitors. So I don't think this

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is a big step forward because again, these are in mice,
and honestly, we've cured every human disease in mice that
we know of. The problem is the translation of that
science in the real human medicine and clinical trials. But
because Alzheimer's is not caused from an over expression of
aromatase enzyme or some type of cellular replication, I don't

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believe these drugs are going to have any clinical utility
at reversing Alzheimer's. Mice are not humans, I mean, and again,
we have to understand the totality of the disease and
the environmental factors, the genetic predispositions, the vascular metabolic aspects
of an individual that may be predisposing them to wrap
it onset of Alzheimer's, And once we understand that, then

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and only then can we develop rational therapies that are
not only safe but effective and address the root cause.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Wow, that's a bold that's a bold take on breakthrough headliners,
and I love the transparency and I like that you
tied it back to science. So where do you see
nitric oxide fitting into this conversation?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I mean, could it act logistically with repurposed drugs.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Then to enhance their impact or even potentially serve as
its own neurovascular therapy.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
We've tried to do is understand the root cause. Today
we understand that Ozheimer's and dementia is a vascular disease
and it's a metabolic disease.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
So whether we look at.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
This through cerebral blood flow, through spec scans, or we
look at the you know what's been called diabetes type three.
It's insign resistance in the brain. It's a lack of
the ability for the cells to bring in glucose, and
nitric oxide dilates the blood vessels perfuse the brains and
proves glucose subtake. When you deliver oxide and nutrients to
the cells and you maintain the normal function, you don't

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get misfolding of proteins, you don't get the amyloid plaque,
and you don't get the tall tangles. So nitric oxide
address this rude cause of dimention Alzheimer's.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Now, one fascinating aspect of this study, which you could debunk,
was the method. So researchers used big data, gene expression maps,
AI patterning, and real world patient data to find these
two drugs. They even noticed that patients who had taken
letrozol or ironautic can for cancer had.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Lower rates of Alzheimer's later in life. So what do
you think about that? What do you think this data
driven repurposing.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
First model is how do you think it's how we'll
crack nor degeneration or how might nitric oxide research benefit
from the same AI hands discovery approach If not, well.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
I think AI is extremely important because it can crunch
so much data. But again, genes respond to the environment,
and unless you're born with an inborn a metabolism, a
genetic defect, then you know, Alzheimer's isn't caused by some
genetic disorder. So when we look at the associations of
you know, certain genes or proteins and then looking at
drugs that may affect that, again we're not addressing root cause.

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And the other thing we have to consider are the
side effects of these drugs. I mean, these are really
toxic drugs with a laundry list of side effects. So
for me, coming you know, being in basic science for
twenty five years now, in the clinical translation of that science,
it's always risk benefit. What clinical benefit does it provide
and at what risk? And if there's a little benefit
and it's all risk, then that's an easy quot it's

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not a good drug target and it's not a good drug.
If there's a little risk and enormous benefit, which is
how we're seeing our nitrocoxide translate into clinical medicine, then
it's a no brainer.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Now, with your deep experience in these clinical dry in
these clinical trials and drug development, what are the biggest
obstacles between this kind of mouse model breakthrough an actual
FDA approved treatment meant for humans.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Well, it's time and money. I mean, just like anything else.
On average, it takes about ten years or eight to
ten years and about eight hundred million dollars to get
a drug to market. And that's going from kind of
understanding or discovery of basic mechanism into drug therapy, clinical
trials and FDA approval. So cost is the major hurdle
and the development of getting this in there. But going

(11:23):
back to your issue of all major you know, drugs
towards Alzheimer's have failed, it's because all target drug targets
or drug therapies are targeted towards the amyloid plaque. On
the taul tangles. Those are the consequence of the disease.
They're not causing the disease. So to me, it's very simple.
These drugs and all modalities and all treatment and therapeutic
strategies targeted toward the toward the amyloid plaque and the

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top protein won't work because they can't work because it's
not causing the disease. It's a consequence of disease. And
nine out of ten Americans are metabolically unfit. You know,
most people have poor vascular function. Cardiovasc disease remains the
number one killer of men and women worldwide. And when
you combine the vascular dysfunction with the metabolic dysfunction, there's

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your roadmap for Alzheimer's. So if we can address the
vascular aspects of dimension Alzheimer's and improve insulent sensitivity glucose subtake,
and correct the metabolic phenotypes and bascular phenotypes of Alzheimer's,
you completely arrest the disease.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Now, we know that even the most promising scientific breakthroughs
can take years to reach patients. Meanwhile, caregivers and families
and advocacy organizations are fighting this disease every single day,
and foundations like we Played Forward are trying to bridge
the gap by funding research, supporting patients, and providing that hope.
So what role can philanthropy and grassroots awareness type of

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campaigns play in accelerating progress, doctor Brian, And what advice
would you give to everyday people who want to help
move the needle?

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Well, at number one, I encourage everyone to get educated
and informed on the importance of micrococide. You know, there
are things that we do that are inhibiting the natural
production fluoride, for example, antiseptic mouthwash and acids.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
All of these.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Rapidly decline the natural production of nitrocoxide and accelerate the disease.
But look, most basic science and even clinical translational funding
comes from the National Institutes of Health, and you know
that's dependent upon the budget from each administration. And so
these philanthropic activities, you know that fund money from private donors,
from philanthropists, you know, are key to advancing the science,

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not just the basic science, but translating that into clinical
medicine is absolutely essential.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
So well said, I mean science can't move forward without support.
I mean this is a movement that requires both molecular
innovation and moral urgency, if you will, and every listener
and viewer can be part of that.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
It's such a simple thing. Well, we are officially out
of time, doctor Brian. Thank you for lending your voice
and your decades of research to this incredibly important conversation.
And the possibility of memory restoration is no longer just
science fiction.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's slowly, slowly science unfolding, if you will.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
And of course it was such a pleasure learning from
you today.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
This has been the We.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Played forward segment where science meets soul and where every
memory matters. You're listening to a moment of Zen right
here on seven to ten wor the voice of New
york iHeartRadio. You could head to Briantherapeutics dot com and
you could definitely check him out on the ground. He's
very active and he does respond to your comments at
doctor Nathan Sbrian.

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That's Brian with a Y, and we played Forward Foundation.
We'll be right back after this.

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Now here's something to chew on. Literally.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Nearly seventy percent of adults experience jaw clenching or grinding,
often unconsciously, and I'm one of them.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
According to the American Dental Association. That is. But what
if I told.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
You that the seemingly minor habit could ripple through your
entire muscular skeletal system, impacting your posture, your breath, even
your ability to recover from injury or manage chronic pain.
Today's headliner is all about tension, breath, and pain. What
your jaw might be telling you about the rest of
your body. We're going to dive into the real connection

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between jaw tension, dysfunctional breathing patterns, and systemic physical breakdown.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
It's all correlated and no one, no one.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Is more qualified to walk us through this than doctor
Jen Fraboni. She's a PT and she has a doctor
written in physical therapy. She's an internationally renowned physical therapist
and founder of the gen dot health platform and app,
and co host of the Optimal Body podcast alongside her
brilliant husband.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
She's been featured in Shape Self, Men's Fitness, and even
lineded the cover of Oxygen magazine.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Her holistic, evidence based approach has helped millions they move smarter,
breathe better, and finally living pain free.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Now, if you've.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Ever clenched your teeth during a stressful zoom call or
woken up with next stiffness and had no idea why,
this was definitely for you. Welcoming now to the show
is the amazing doctor Jen. Welcome, superstar. Thank you so
much for having me. I really appreciate it. I'm very honored,
so excited. So I'm going to dive right in waste
no time here. Thank you for being our expert on

(16:48):
the microphone series. Now I'm going to dive into something
that's really personal to me. This is affecting me currently.
So and we're conditioned to think of pain as isolated, right,
like a shoulder issue, a back tweak, a hip, a
tight hip. But as you often teach, the body is
incredibly interconnected.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
So from a physical therapy perspective, where does the.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Jaw fit into that whole body map and what makes
it such a key player in alignment and tension.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Well, first of all, we have to talk about pain
in general, and a lot of times we don't like
to think about that, but pain is a messenger. So
say that I am dealing with a lot of Ford
head posture and I'm never getting out of this position.
Ford head posture itself is not a bad thing, and
we actually have research that shows that your head coming
forward isn't necessarily a reason for pain. However, we have

(17:37):
to address that if we're always staying here, we're never
coming out of this position. We don't know how to
find our head over our body. That's going to affect
our entire airflow. So now, if my head's always forward,
my rib cages down, I'm putting pressure down onto my diet,
my respiratory diaphragm. Now I might be pooching out my stomach.
I'm going to put pressure down into my public floor.

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So now I'm getting tension at the jaw, tension into
my rib cage, and I'm not allowing my respiratory diaphragm
to expand tension into my public floor. I might be
experiencing leaking. I might be experiencing some other symptoms that
you have no idea even relate all the way back
up to how I'm breathing and where my jaw is.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Wow, Wow, you're blowing my mind right now.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
And in fact, women are disproportionately affected by jaw dysfunction.
Sometimes estimates say up to ninety percent of TMJ suffers
are women, right, So, like that that should signal something.
So what are some of the signs of jaw dysfunction
or TMD that may not scream jaw issue at that
first glance, like what you're talking about, And how might
those symptoms show up elsewhere in the body.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
So, like I said, we could experience leaking within the body,
pelvic floor tension, maybe difficulty going to the restroom, or
you notice after you go to the restroom you're still
leaking a little bit. You're like, well, I didn't my
bladder completely relax. Right, Well, it's not necessarily the ladder.
What it could be the public floor that's holding a
lot of tension. So how we breathe is affecting everything

(19:04):
that we're filling up into the jaw, even how I'm
moving from my upper back, my thoracic spine, how I'm
expanding from my ribcage. If I'm not expanding laterally from
my ribcage, then I could be affecting the movement of
my respiratory diaphragm. And a lot of times when I say, hey,
take a deep breath in, what is the first thing
everyone does? When when I say take a deep breath in,

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everyone raises their shoulders up into their ears. If you
look into the mirror, your neck is going to be tensioning.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
When you do that.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
Right, So, if that is the breath pattern that is
getting me in that sympathetic stressful state, why would I
be doing that breath pattern when I'm trying to relax
and take a deep.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Relaxed breath.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
God, do you know it's such a powerful reframing what
you just said right there?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
So breath work, which that subject you cover so beautifully
on your platform.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
What you just said was a little bit of so
much more insight that people could find there.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
But what's the difference biomechanically between mouth breathing and nasal breathing.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
And how does that impact our posture, our mobility, or
even our energy levels throughout the day.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
So when we're nasal breathing, first of all, we're filtering
out a lot more of the air. So if we
don't want to be breathing in a lot of the
air that we're walking around in in pollution, then we
want to be shutting our mouth more throughout the day.
When we're breathing, we're also it's causing a little bit
of restriction in how much oxygen can get in, So
it forces the diaphgm to have to work a little
bit harder to get that breath, which increases the strength

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of our diaphragm, which is going to help to improve
our intra abdominal pressure. We're going to start lifting better,
we're going to start having better coursability just by breathing
from our noes. Not only that, but with that restriction,
we're going to increase our nitric oxide. Nitric Oxide is
amazing because it's going to help to oxygenate of our
all of our body. So if I can increase the

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oxygen to my brain, increase the oxygen to my muscles,
then I'm going to feel better throughout the day as well.
I'm going to feel more alert. I'm not going to
be reaching for those extra cups of coffee. So just
by nasal breathing, we also turn on our parasympathetic system,
our rest relaxed digest and again, most of the people
who are living in pain, especially when it comes to
chronic pain, you're having current pain. We are stuck in

(21:14):
the sympathetic system and our brain is on neuro is
on overdrive and can no longer filter out the signals
that it should be filtering out throughout the day. And
that's why our pain response is so elevated and so high.
So if we want that to drop down at all,
we have to start thinking about how we're breathing, particularly
nasal breathing, shutting our mouth more throughout the day. And

(21:36):
really we're breathing from our mouth when we're talking and
when we're exercising hard. That's the only times that we
should be using our mouth.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Wow, So it's not just how we breathe it's where
we breathe from, and that really challenges how many of
us move through through our daily lives, especially under stress.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Right, So let's layer into stress conversation.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
So we're all walking around in this low grade fight
or flight mode, whether we want to believe it or not,
especially here in the city. What happens to the physical body,
nervous system, muscles posture when we're constantly clenching our jaw
or breathing shallowly under.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
Stress, We're constantly telling our body that it needs to
be on high alert, and so those pain signals are
going to be higher. The what we feel throughout the
day is going to be higher. That tension is going
to be higher. No matter how much you foam roll,
no matter how much you massage, gun it out or
trying to stretch it, you are going to fill a
little bit more tense within the body. And the way
to help to reduce that is to start to get

(22:34):
into that parasympathetic breath. Place your hands on your low ribcage,
give it a little squeeze. Tell me can you expand
from that rib cage? Laterally, you could do this again
when you're driving. You could do it before you step
into your house. You know you gonna have a crazy
busy house. You can do it before a work meeting.
Taking two to five intentional slow breath from your nose,

(22:55):
placing your hands on your rib cage, tongue at the
roof of the mouth, and lips closed. This is going
to help to reduce everything. Now let's think about the
length of the breath, because again, if I'm thinking someone's
chasing me, something's really stressful, I'm in this inhaled state.
But if I go to get a massage, if I'm relaxed,

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it's an automatic Uh, it's a long exhale. So the
easiest hack as well is not just box breathing or
what but people might think about, but literally extending your
exhale longer than your inhale will help to switch you
into that parasympathetic, rest relaxed system rather than being in
that stressful state. That's all we have to do. Breathe

(23:37):
from your nose, take a long relaxed inhale, and then
a longer relaxed exhale, and you're going to see how
that automatically starts to shift that pain response.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, now we're almost out of time, But is there
one myth or misunderstanding about chronic pain or movement that
you wish more people knew, and what would it be?

Speaker 6 (23:59):
You know, I just manipulations, can and manual work are
all so passionate. It's so great to provide some down
regulation to the system because touch is valuable and I
will never disagree with that. However, it's not a fix.
We are the fix for our own bodies, not someone else.
I can help guide you into what I'm seeing can
be neglected, but I cannot magically fix you. I'm not

(24:21):
a surgeon who's cutting something and changing something. So when
I put my hands on you, whether it's an adjustment,
whether it is a massage, whether it's a manual technique,
it is literally adjusting the nervous system for that moment.
But it's not putting a bone back into place. It's
not moving back. It's not literally adjusting a joint. It's

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creating a pocket of change in that joint. It stretches
the joint, which causes what's called the cavitation, and it
creates that noise that we hear, and that is that
releases a lot of happy hormones into our bodies, so
we feel really good. We think we made change, but
it's literally just adjusting the nervous system. So if we
continue to remember there's no one magical fix from someone else,

(25:03):
but it's what you do with your own body on
a day to day basis that's going to make the
biggest impact and give you the power back into your
own hands to make.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
The change that you need.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
It's a hopeful and empowering note to end on that
pain isn't punishment, it's information and I've learned so much.
With the right tools, we can respond because it's a signal.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
So I love what you just said. Thank you all right.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
For those ready to move better, breathe deeper, and finally
ditch that pain, you could head to Gen dot health
and follow her on the gram at doc gen fit
for daily tools, demos and doses of mobility motivation, and
of course you can stream the Optimal Body Podcast for
even deeper dives with Gen and her husband as they
decode the science of movement for everyday life.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
It's a great, great, great podcast.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
This has been the Clean Collective segment brought to you
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Speaker 4 (26:44):
Welcome back to the Going Deep segment brought to you
by CO two Lift. Today in the Expert on the
Microphone series, we're joined by doctor Grant Stevens. He's a
board certified plastic surgeon and founder and medical director of
Marina Plastic surgery and Marina Medsbach and founder of Sun
Valley Aesthetics.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
He has an impressive career that spans decades.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
He's been consistently recognized as a top plastic surgeon for
his renowned expertise and innovation in aesthetic surgery. Now beyond
his clinical practice, he's also a Professor of plastic Surgery
at the University of Southern California, chair and CMIO of
Clarity Technologies, and the past President of the Aesthetic Society.
He's going to join me right now to chat all

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about the rising male interest in aesthetic procedures and trending treatments.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
You definitely want to stick around for this conversation. Welcome
to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 8 (27:33):
Hey, thank you very much, San, It's great to be
on your program.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Let's dive right in.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
So while women still largely outnumber men seeking aesthetic procedures,
according to recent stats from the American Society of Esthetic
Plastic Surgery, male plastic surgerys are up a staggering forty
three percent over the last five years alone. Now I
know you even created that something that plays directly into this.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Marina Manland. I love this concept.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
It's a man cave catered towards men seeking aesthetic enhancements
and adopting the slogan great slogan by the way, where
a man can feel good about looking great.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
I think this is a.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Genius way to open up, to open up specifically what
we're talking about, the more female in the more female
dominated space, and make it more inviting for men. I mean,
doctor Stevens, what you've done is very, very proprietary. What
inspires you to take the special focus and cater more
towards the male patients? And why do you think the
percentage of men seeking aesthetic treatments is on the rise?

Speaker 8 (28:33):
Guys they don't want to sit on couches, they want
to sit on chairs. They love leather. They didn't like
the colors I was using or the smell that I
was piping in for my Marina Plastic Surgery Associates, my
Marine office, and so I decide, I'm going to build
a place that's a cross between a a cigar lounge
and a sports bar, you know, like wood paneling, leather chairs,

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televisions and screens everywhere, monitors. I even built the restroom
for the men that I put a urinal in it,
which I'd never seen in the doctor's office. I put
a monitor above the urnal so when the guys are
doing their business there at the urnal, they can see
the monitor. And I piped in the Sports Illustrated Bathing

(29:18):
Suit Edition twenty four to seven. Wow, And they loved
it and they tell their friends and guys were coming
in like crazy. Larry King came in and did a
piece on it, and a bunch of other people in
the local the local news station did and it was
crazy good and it took off.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Well, that's such a refreshing perspective, and it sounds like
you didn't there was no detail that was overlooked. And
I think that the way you've normalized and rebranded the
experience for men is quite brilliant, and more so, it's
empowering to see that aesthetics is no longer just a
woman's world and the data backs it up right.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
So, ye, what are the most popular.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Procedures bothgical and non surgical, and that men are currently
seeking in Why do you think they're trending?

Speaker 8 (30:04):
They definitely want to lose fat non surgically. They want
to have thicker hair. They prefer not to have surgery
to do it. So we have a number of options
with our Get Hair MD program. And then finally skin.
Everybody knows about lasers, perhaps true facial. Your listeners know
about various in office modalities, but a lot of these

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guys and gals want to have a home based approach
to optimizing their skincare. Besides, you know soap and water
in the shower, and so a lot of them are
moving towards something called true facial. I don't know if
you've heard of it. It's tru fac I l for
surgical number one, leptroplasty, eyelids, getting rid of this stuff,

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face lifting, and a lot of guys want their nose
fixed if they've broken it, and so forth.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Now let's bring CO two lift into the picture.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
So while patients can achieve great results through there and
treatments you just spoke of, the recovery process is rarely easy,
but there are things you can do to make it easier,
like CO two lift, And we know CO two lift
is non invasive and other buzzword men love, and it's
clinically proven and a medical grade carboxy jail that not
only offers monotherapy benefits, but can significantly improve a patient's

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results in comfort post procedure. So, doctor Stevens, I know
you've used the product and even interviewed the founder, Lonaker
on your podcast, The Technology of Beauty.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
What is your experience with CO two lift? What results
have you witnessed?

Speaker 8 (31:34):
Sure? Well, the carboxy, as you know, the carboxy therapy
increases the oxygen and the oxygenation of skin. It also
increases the blood supply and the hydration. In other words,
it makes the skin more plump, more hydrated water. It's
like the difference of a say, a raisin and a grape.

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So a raisin is just a grape that's dehydrated. Well,
our skin can become kind of like a raisin, and
when we use the carboxy, we actually increase the auction
and the hydration. So there's an immediate effect right then
and there, even if you use it at home by yourself,
or use it like with true facial I was mentioning. Now,
on the other hand, we're doing it on patients before

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and after procedures. So let's say they're having a skin
pin or a hydrofacial or even some lasers and energy
based technologies that we could run through, but we'll treat
them before like ever once a week and then after
once a week with the carboxy therapy, and.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
I love the cerio.

Speaker 8 (32:42):
It accelerates the recovery. The patients feel better, they look better,
it shortens the recovery. It's a wonderful addition.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
You know.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Hearing this from experts like yourself really reinforces the science
and clinical integrity behind CO two lift and it's really exciting.
But it's not just a complementary option. It's often a
game changing one from what I'm hearing every I've heard
it being compared to a hyperbaric oxygen chamber.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Some doctors post procedures. So even going.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Beyond this, I mean COEO two lift has a product
that I personally tried for vaginal rejuvenation, right the COEO
two lift feed. But something many men don't realize is
that they can actually use the CO two lift pro
on their penis.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Can even help with irrectile dysfunction.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
So this product really seems that it has many versatile
use case.

Speaker 8 (33:32):
Totally, we have biopsies to show the improvement in the
lubrication and the hydration of the vaginal mucosa and also
the outside of the vaginant, the perineum, the labya and
so forth. The overall appearance is plumper, and I don't
mean bigger, but it looks healthier, looks younger, and we
have women of all ages asking for it and doing

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it back to men. A number of men have asked
me about it. I'm not a spec list and erectile
dysfunction by any by any means. However, men have been
taking home the product that's for the penis and reporting
to me heightened sex, longer erections, faster erections, and all
sorts of things.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Now, you're also an educator, and I want to talk
about this because there is a lot of misinformation and
disinformation out there.

Speaker 8 (34:23):
Right.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
So, you're an educator serving as.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
A clinical professor of plastic surgery at the University of
Southern California, and you lecture at numerous international and national
and regional meetings, and you've you've authored more than sixty
articles and chapters on esthetic plastic surgery.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
This is quite impressive, my friend. Not to mention that's
not enough.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Not to mention you are the host of the Technology
of Beauty podcasts, which it takes a lot to now
have a podcast on top of everything else you're doing.
So whether you're interviewing doctors, founders, inventors, and scientists who
are shaping the future of esthetics. You're you're clearly on
that on the on the beat of it, all right,
at the.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
What we call your ears to the streets, if you will.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
So, why do you believe education is so crucial in
the field of plastic surgery for both students and practicing
health professionals, especially in this area of such rapid advancement.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
I mean, things are changing overnight.

Speaker 8 (35:16):
Well, thank you very much. You're very kind. I'm going
to have to for sure to have my mother listen
to this. Having said that, you know, I believe strongly
in many of you've heard this, it's not original that
we are. I am certainly no better than the giants
upon whose shoulders I stand. And when I think of
my mentors and my educators that got me to where

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I'm at and I went into Bress, I know I
am who I am as a result of their generosity,
and they're teaching me and challenging me. I was fortunate
enough to start the Esthetic Fellowship program at SC twenty seven,
twenty eight years ago. I was the chairman and also founder,
and I have to tell you when I go through

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my daily activities and all my teaching of my fellows
and thus then sub the residents and students, but the
fellows especially. It's the most worthwhile valuable thing I do professionally.
I've had the opportunity to educate over forty one fellows
just in my fellowship, and then hundreds of hundreds. I
was also the visiting professor for the United States for

(36:21):
the Aesthetic Society, also a visiting professor for the International Society.
I know this sounds braggadocia's I don't mean it that
what I'm saying. I flew around the world, and I
flew all around the country, and I had a chance
to meet residents and fellows and other docs, and as
before I became president, I was also involved in a
lot of education and so forth. And I continue doing it.
And I have to tell you I love it. I

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don't get paid a penny to do it. I do
it because of the love of it. And it reminds
me of my chairman, doctor Weeks, who taught me so much,
and it gives me a great sense of satisfaction. And
you mentioned something else, and that is all of this
crazy disinformation and missing. And I can't tell you how

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many times I have patients quoting doctor Google to me
and I tell them, listen, we're friends, we whatever, no
hard feelings, but please don't make me debate Doctor Google.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
And that brings us at the end of our date,
we finally have wrapped up this segment.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
I can't believe it. It's taken us like six hours.

Speaker 8 (37:21):
Don't believe it hasn't take in six hours. It's been wonderful.
I just wish you could go on for another hour.
There's so many fun things.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
That was our going Deep segment, brought to you by
co two left, and that was the incredible Doctor Grant Stevens.
He's a renowned Board certified plastic surgeon and founder and
medical director of Marina Plastic Surgery.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
You can definitely check them out directly on their.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Website at Marinaplasticsurgery dot com, and to learn more about
his practice, you could follow him on the Gram at
doctor Grant Stevens. You can check out his podcast, The
Technology of Beauty. It's on YouTube and on Instagram at
the Technology of Beauty, and do check out his latest
innovation at Sun Valley Esthetics. You can head directly to

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What if I told you the future of human potential
is already here and her name is Tilly Lockey. In
the Hydration with Heart segment brought to you by once
paonic Oconut, we're spotlighting an extraordinary young woman who isn't
just navigating the world of disability.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
She's actually redefining it.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
According to the World Health Organization, over one point three
billion people globally live with some form of disability, representing
sixteen percent of the world's population. But what if we
stopped seeing disability as a limitation and started seeing it
as a launchpad for innovation.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Tilly Lockey lost both of.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Her hands to meningitis as a baby, but that was
only the beginning of her story. Since the age of nine,
she's been working with Open Bionics to co create state
of the art bionic arms, pioneering a world where tech
and humanity aren't at odds but partners. Her work is
redefining public perception around prosthetics, beauty, and what it means

(41:47):
to be abled. Tilly is a bionic trailblazer, a motivational speaker,
a creative technologist, and.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
A fierce voice for inclusion.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
She's been featured on global platforms from BBC to Wired
and continues to use her platform to empower others, especially
the next generation of disabled youth. And today, this bionic
Beauty is going to join me to talk all about
that journey, the tech that's shaped her, and changing disability forever,
and why inclusion isn't just a buzz isn't just a buzzword,

(42:18):
it's a human right.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Welcome to the show, Superstar. Hello, thank you for having me.

Speaker 10 (42:23):
I'm so excited, Tilly.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
You are a force to be reckoned with.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
You are a trailblazer and I'm so honored to be
chatting with you today. So I want to cover from
survival to superhuman, which is essentially what you've done. And
you've said before that you don't just want to survive,
you want to thrive and I love this mantra. So
from your earliest experiences with meningitis to being fitted for

(42:48):
your first bionic arm, your story is nothing short of phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Can you take.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Us back to that moment you first realized you had
no hands? And what was that adjustment? Like, both emotionally
and physically, it's been a.

Speaker 11 (43:02):
Journey, to say the least, And it starts like right
at the beginning, because when I was born, I had
like all four limbs. I was completely happy, healthy baby,
like nothing seemed wrong at all. And it wasn't until
I was fifteen months old that I ended up contracting
a terrible disease called manager cock called septa semia strain
B in its full name, I was rushed to the

(43:24):
hospital immediately. It was like no chance of survival, literally
zero percent is what my family were given, like.

Speaker 10 (43:30):
They were practically told to say their goodbyes.

Speaker 11 (43:32):
But obviously I'm here today and my little tiny body
was somehow able to fight it. It was after one
week in intensive care, three weeks in recovery, a second
gear infection which I later contracted, and ten good transfusions
that I had to have.

Speaker 10 (43:47):
But somehow I managed to pull through.

Speaker 11 (43:49):
I survived and I'm here today.

Speaker 10 (43:51):
But the septus semia that's blood poisoning.

Speaker 11 (43:54):
And you could see like it well and truly just
devastated my hands. They were all curled over and black
like scapped, and they were just truly dead. And there
was even a point when I had the hands still
attached where I was adapting to them being dead and
like them like the inevitable feature of them not being there,
Like I had my hands still attached and I was
starting to pick things up with my wrists. So one

(44:16):
thing that's been a constant in my life is like adaptation,
even when the hands are still attached. It's like I'm
a tiny baby, little girl, and I realized that are
no good for me, you know. So, yeah, it's been
from I was the time I was one years old.
I lost my hands and that changed everything.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
So let's talk about design.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
You've co created bionic arms with open bionics that are
not only functional, but look at you fashionable. We're talking
about superhero grade limbs inspired by Iron Man in Star Wars.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
It doesn't get better than this.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
So why was it important for you to be part
of the design process and how does the look and
feel of your bionic arms impact the way you moved
through the world.

Speaker 10 (45:01):
It was so important.

Speaker 11 (45:03):
It all came about because the first time we were
exploring like prosthetics and things like that, and we were
given this device. First of all, it was given to
us in a brown paper bag as if something to
be like really discrete about, and the whole reception was
kind of weird.

Speaker 10 (45:18):
But then also pulled out.

Speaker 11 (45:20):
This like device and it was like not a device
at all. We were like, how does it work? Like
how do I make it move? And they were like, oh, no,
it doesn't do anything. You just like stick on the
end of your arm to make it look more normal,
get less stares in public. So it really was like
my entire childhood, like being drilled into me that prosthetics
was something that were like realistic and something that like

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tried to blend and like replace what you lost in
the way as close to it as possible. But I
don't feel like that had all the best benefits to
me growing up. I feel like it definitely had an
impact on me. You know, you're in your prime years
where your brain's developing, and all you're being told is
like to makin hide this difference. So that sort of

(46:03):
triggered like this whole journey of making proseetics useful for
a star, but also trying to get away from the
whole idea that this is something we need to hide,
Like why was that the standard? We talk about physical benefits,
but also the mental benefits of like wearing these bonacolums
and what they've given me in my life has been
like so amazing, and I just realized it's not something

(46:26):
that should be left behind, and we should right ferment.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Celebrate we should celebrate this. And how old are you
right now?

Speaker 10 (46:33):
I'm nineteen, Right now, you're.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Nineteen, So this has truly shaped you in the most
profound way. And for those of you listening and haven't
tuned in to watch, yet you are hearing her hands
move with a mechanism.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Every time she does move them.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
So there is there is a sound that the prosthetic
bionic limbs do make.

Speaker 11 (46:53):
Correct, Yes, there is, and I can keep it down,
but I always think it sounds kind of cool.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
So, in your opinion, what does the future of bionics
look like? And how close are we to a world
where every child who needs a bionic limb can actually
access one.

Speaker 11 (47:08):
The right at which technology is advancing and the people
that it's helping, it's just going to open open up,
which is the best thing in the world, And that
is my vision for the future. Like, I think the
tech is going to get better and better inevitably, Like
it's going to get so good to the point where
it's going to be sci.

Speaker 10 (47:23):
Fi vibes, you know what I mean. But there is
no point.

Speaker 11 (47:26):
Of all this advancement and amazing stuff in the tech
world if people don't have access to it. So, like
I talk a lot about how the accessibility is so important.
I bridging the gap you know between you know, the
you know, just the people who are can to afford
it and people who can't. Like it shouldn't be like that,
if you want it and you would benefit from it,
you should have it. Like my mottol is that having

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four limbs is a human right. Like that's something I
absolutely stand by. So yeah, my version for the future
is that it gets better and better, but also while
it's getting better and better, with working on the accessibility
just as much and like everybody can benefit from it.
And I don't know how far off that is, but
all we can do in the moment is look at
it as an absolute priority and in everything I do,

(48:11):
that's not the full from You're so.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Well spoken, my dear, and you're right, accessibility is absolutely everything.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
You can't spark change if.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Only a few can afford to experience it, right, And
I really hope more companies follow Open Bionics's lead in
democratizing this kind of life changing technology because it's truly needed.
So which brings me to confidence and your identity, because
you are very confident, but many people struggle with confidence,
especially during their teenage years, and yet here you are

(48:41):
rocking red carpets, given keynote talks and redefining what beauty
and confidence can look like with bionics. So was there
a specific moment you stopped feeling say different, and started
owning your power.

Speaker 11 (48:55):
Well, I've read something recently and I really resonate with that.
It's just that you should find your pain, like because
my life is like I love my life, like I'm fribrant,
like genuinely it's great at the minute, and like, but
it hasn't always been that way, do you know what
I mean. I've had my own ups and pounds, like.

Speaker 10 (49:13):
Everyone goes through that.

Speaker 11 (49:15):
I think when I was like thirteen years old, that's
when it kind of like was the worst.

Speaker 10 (49:19):
Like I was rolling sleeves down.

Speaker 11 (49:21):
I just couldn't be bothered with like all the stairs
and like it is just a constant thing of like
you look different, you feel different, you just don't like
you don't feel like you fit in. Some days when
I just wanted to be treated like everybody else, that's
when I'd roll the sleeves down.

Speaker 10 (49:36):
But at the same time, you shouldn't have to do that,
do you know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (49:38):
And I see little kids now in the same position,
and I'm like, you think.

Speaker 10 (49:43):
Like this is awful now, but I promise.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
You you will get over it.

Speaker 11 (49:46):
I generally feel like it was one day where I
literally just woke up and I was like, I just
felt like I'd wasted so many summers, particularly, I think
it was like summertime, and I was like, or anticipate
in summer, and I was like, I've wasted so much
time just like sweating away in the summer, trying to
wear as many layers as possible, trying to hide this
away when it shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Have to be like that.

Speaker 11 (50:06):
How many some of them are I going to waste
before I like get the memo?

Speaker 10 (50:10):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (50:10):
There was a twenty twenty three report from the Center
for Talent Innovation, and it showed that seventy five percent
of disabled individuals hide to your point their disability at
work or school had of fear of being treated differently,
which tells us inclusion still has a long way to go.
What do you wish more people understood about disability and

(50:31):
what real inclusion actually looks like.

Speaker 10 (50:34):
I think real occlusion is the lack of assumption.

Speaker 11 (50:37):
I think that's the biggest thing like people with disabilities
deal with and why they want to hide the difference.
Sometimes it's not a personal issue where like they just
hated about them, like you say, like they're doing it
at work and that, And I can tell you right
now it's because they don't want their abilities to be
judged by the disability that they present.

Speaker 10 (50:55):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (50:56):
Because you would look at somebody with no hands and
be like, well, they can't play the piano. Like there
was a long list of things where somebody came into
my house and told my family when I was a baby,
they were like, well, she's not gonna do this.

Speaker 10 (51:08):
She's not gonna do that.

Speaker 11 (51:09):
Piano was on our list, and my parents were like, well,
who are you to tell us what our child kind
of can't do. Like, we're gonna find a decreptit piano
on eBay, literally falling apart. We're gonna stick it in
the kitchen, and if she wants to try it, regardless,
if she has the hands, she can try it, do
you know what I mean? And it got to the
age of like when I was like seven, started to
tinker with it because in my head I didn't think, oh,

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I've got no hands, I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I just don't.

Speaker 10 (51:31):
There's a piano, do you know what I mean? So
let me try.

Speaker 11 (51:34):
So.

Speaker 10 (51:35):
Yeah, I just feel like to be.

Speaker 11 (51:37):
More inclusive, people should just not draw so many conclusions
so quick, like give the person the opportunity to actually
like show what they can do. I think that would
go like a really really long way.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
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my friend. I'm gonna let you get back to your campground.
But thank you for being here.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Again, for showing us that the future is just bright.
It's bionic. You're not just giving people a hand, You're
giving them hope.

Speaker 10 (52:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (52:05):
No, I know it's I'd try them my vest, And like,
I just hope the next generation sees it like the
beautiful thing is.

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