John Mgbemena; Shawn Dougherty; Amanda Ake; Dr. Kamakshi; Dr. Karan Lal

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Welcome to a Moment of Zen. Time to sit back
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Welcome to episode two hundred and twenty three, celebrating.

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Five and a half years on the air.

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pain behind the perfect photo. We're also going to chat
about the evolution of male modeling in the digital age
and what it's costing behind the scenes. In the premier
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Society Brands, Let's get real for a second. We brush
our teeth twice a day, every day, and yet most

(01:49):
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Today's headline says it all no fluoride, no paravins, no chemtrails.
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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area.

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I'm your host Zen Sam's.

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Just like our guest.

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Today, we're putting back the curtain on an industry that
seems all glitz and glam from the outside, But behind
every flawless photo is a human being navigating pressures most
of us never see. Joining me now is someone who's
not only walking runways from New York to Paris, but
walking the line between digital perfection and real life identity.
From Nova Men to New York Fashion Week, John Emmomena

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gets real about the pressures, perks, and pain behind the
perfect photo. He's an international Nigerian model and his work
is a force. It spans commercial, fitness and fashion modeling
for global powerhouses like Nova Men, Boohoo, Man, Bevel, Nike Alo.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
That's just to name a few.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
He's graced the pages of Hollywood Men, Magazine, Style Cruise,
and Dubai Magazine. He's become the face of major fragrance
campaigns from Ralph Lauren to Valentino and Azaro. But beyond
the brand is John's discipline, charisma and honesty that sets
him apart. So today he's here to talk about the
truth behind the industry. We're chatting the evolution of male

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modeling in the digital age and what it's costing behind
the scenes.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Welcome to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Thank you, thank you, Thank you guys for having me.
Is a pleasure to be on your platform.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Let's chat the evolution of modeling.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
So you've walked for Paris Fashion Week and fronted campaigns
for some of the biggest names in grooming and men's wear.
So let's go back to the beginning. How has the
modeling industry changed since you started, especially for men, and
how has the rise of social media shaped what means
to be a bookable model in today's world.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Yeah, so to ask you a question, the modeling the
industry has evolved since I last started, Especially for models.
In the past, it was very narrow standards, you know,
like the Abercrombie and Fitch type of model. Now there's
more diversity in body types, you know what, the initiation
of plus sized models, backgrounds and even personal styles. Brands

(06:15):
are prioritized authenticity and looking for models who bring more personality,
a store and influence, not just the look. So whether
it is like if they do like reality TV such
as Love Island, which is popular right now other entities,
it's basically picking up more than the status quo. Social
media has also changed the game. It's no longer just

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about being in front of the camera. It's about being
your own personal brand as a male model. That means
showing more than just a straw drawn line. But the
people want to connect more with you who you are
behind the image that back in the time I was
starting having a full beer wasn't enormous, more so clean shaven,
like the perfect Abercrombie and Fitch type of model. But

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now the ship has open doors for people like me
who bring more to the table, whether it's dough fitness,
contant creation, or even brand and basstorship.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Now let's chat fitness and skin routine.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Because you your body is I mean, your body is
your temple and it looks amazing and.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Your skin is flawless.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's your look is obviously a big part of your brand,
but behind the grooming and glamour is real commitment. Can
you walk us through your fitness and skincare regimen? I mean,
what keeps you runway ready and what brands or routines
do you swear by, especially when it comes to thing
fresh under all those lights and cameras.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yeah, definitely, and the keywords you're pointing out is really disciplined.
Even me creating my ebooks six pack and forty five
Days is disciplined. My fitness routine is built around consistency
and a variety. I usually train five to six days
a week, focused on it on strength, hit and core workouts.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
Morning starts with.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Fast cardio or mobility work and our prioritize functional movements
that keep me leaning as out for shoots. Whenever you
hop in the photo shoots, you want to always be
ready as well as even in a runway, so I
prioritize these movements as well as give equal importance to recovery, stretching,
bomb rolling and sleep is very, very essential. And the

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skincare routine I use is simple but effective. I stick
to a clean regiment cleansers Toner's Vitamin C serum in
the morning and a moisturizer with SPF and not at
cleans again using retinole based products and tha car hydration
moisturizers to repair overnight.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Right, this is what I love.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
We see the final product, but people forget just how
much discipline and planning goes into keeping that standard every
single days. It's not just genetics, it's strategy and like
you said, consistency. Now, let's chat mental health and pressure.
So in twenty twenty two, a study by the Model
Alliance revealed that over sixty eight percent of models reported

(08:54):
suffering from anxiety or depression due to body image expectations
and inconsistent work. So for male models, the pressure can
sometimes go underacknowledged. You know, it's not something that we
talk about from men. So what has your mental health
journey been like in this industry and how do you
stay grounded when the job demands constant perfection.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
For me, it starts to reminding myself that my value
isn't based on how look or how many likes I get.
Especially with the social media culture, it's rooted in who
I am off the camera too, what type of personality,
what type of integrity I have, and how I just
move around the industry as well as interact with other individuals.

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I stay grounded by keeping a follow routine, regular workout,
the clean diet prayer, journalism and time away for social
media when I need to reset. And I also surround
myself with people who know me beyond the industry, family
and friends who remind me of my purpose. Sometimes you
can get colluded a lot of what's going on, but
when you speak to family, speaks to friends, they keep

(10:01):
you definitely ground. They're reminded of your purpose. And therapy
and talking to openly about what I'm going through has
awful help. Whether it's talking with friends, talking to family,
There's no shame in admitting when you're feeling. The pressures
are burnt out. The industry is changing, and I think
being honest and prioritize the mental health makes you stronger,

(10:21):
make you a stronger modern creator and a man. So yeah, yeah,
encompass everything. It just keeps everything flowing and keeps your
mental health intact.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah. Now, social media and brand power is a real thing.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I mean, you've built your image both in front of
the camera and online. So for aspiring models listening, how
much of staying booked today is about your digital presence?

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Is Instagram your modern day agent? If you will?

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Nowadays, with agencies they will still BOOKI Central gigs, but
with Instagram many brand deals such as Fashionova or such
as Bebel will just reach out to me through social
media based on the following as following I have, as
well as the type of photos and the type of

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content that I'm posted. Really in this day and age,
because everything is based on cend your Instagram, cen, your TikTok, CeNSE,
your YouTube, So they're basically, I'm not saying judging you,
but it's an add of value. So most of the
time you can skip the middle man, which can be
your agent or you're even your manager, and they'll just

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go straight to you.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
And it's so main opportunities based on.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Promoting promoting quality content on your social media and making
sure that if anyone clicks on your social media they
kind of know what type of niche or type of
industry you're in, whether it's act and whether it's midling
or whether like for example, you're doing real.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Estate, it's mighty clicker Instagram.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
You want them to know, like the first couple of
photos they see is what type of industry you're in,
and everything will fall into place.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, that's such a great perspective and so true. I mean,
the hustle has.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Expanded beyond castings now let's talk about biggest insecurity. So
you've become a poster boy for confidence and charisma, but
every model, every human.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Has their vulnerable spots.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
What's your biggest insecurity and how have you learned to
work through it?

Speaker 5 (12:21):
I would say my biggest insecurity, honestly, was pretty much
the way I looked like. People will be, yeah, it's shocking,
but growing up, I'll tell you, when I was in.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
The high school, middle school, I was this market.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Many people really didn't gravitate to the type of person
that I was. So I remember like, well, my brothers
are have five brothers, so I was the middle child,
and I remember was.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
Like eating to get that stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
And then it was a discussion they was talking about
who get more girls than, who would get more girls than,
who would be in a relationships soon, who licked the
bets and stuff like that. I was ranked lass out
of fire O. No, so this is back. So I
was like really more so like athlete. I love sports,
But in terms of Milon, I was like because I

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had to like grow into my features. So in terms
of my insecurity, everything was really my security. So when
I got introduced to Milin, did the audition, they told
me to walk again. I was taking it for granted.
I didn't know the trajectory it was going to lead
me into. And they finally accepted me. They said, oh,

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I think you can work, and they said just work
out and stuff like that. And after that they my
first Runway show. The rest is history.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
And now I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you
the very important question. This is the Hydration with Heart segment,
brought to you by Once Upon a Coconut. I personally
can't live without my coconut water. It's part of my
pre workout routine. It's part of my every day. Talk
to me about hydration. What's your hydration hack and what
are your thoughts on coconut water?

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Going back back in the day, my dad used to
always eat coconut and corn Brandon. He will always cut
the coconut them eat the corn and stuff.

Speaker 6 (14:07):
But I never so.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
I always was drinking coconut water at a childhood, but
I never really like enjoyed it or not enjoyed it.
But it was always something. But when I really actually draws, oh,
this is good, was when I went to cuous. I
like to to thirty weeks two to thirty months my
bad ago, but my hydration hack is always drink water,

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especially on spring water.

Speaker 6 (14:33):
I always try to drink water water daily.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Just try to be consistent because the more I work
out five of six days a week, and I do
like great cardios, I sweat a lot. But the more
you drink water, the more it helps your skin, the
more it helps your hair. Growth is very very essential
when you drink water.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Weather is Oh, we are sixty percent water, so we
definitely have to keep replenishing. Thank you so much for
coming on. I mean, I love hearing these stories. I
love the evolution. I love having you back and checking
in with your career and all your success.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
So proud of you.

Speaker 6 (15:08):
I really appreciate it. Thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
You can follow him on the Gram at John and
Boumena and catch his latest campaigns and runways on billboards worldwide.
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Speaker 4 (16:09):
I'm your host, Zen Zams.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Welcome back to the Clean Collective segment, brought to you
by Society Brands, a purpose driven platform investing in founder
led wellness companies that are changing the way we live,
shop and self care. And today's headline says it all
no fluoride, no parabens, no chemtrails. How this oral care
brand is leading the clean smile revolution. That's what we're

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going to get down to talking about. So let's get
let's get real for a second. We brush our teeth
twice a day, every day, and yet most of us
have no idea what's actually in our toothpaste.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
The truth it's shocking.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Over eighty percent of mainstream oral care brands contain ingredients
banned in other countries. Fluoride still pushed as essential, has
been linked to neurotoxicity and children in repeated studies, and
those so called whitening strips oof most rely on peroxide,
which can damage an amal and cause long term sensitivity.
It's one of the most routine parts of our wellness

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ritual and one of the most overlooked, but a growing
number of women, especially moms, are waking up and opting out.
And today we're meeting the two powerhouse women leading that
very charge, one from a desire to fill a gap
and the other from.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
The legacy building boardroom.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Amanda Ak is the president of Primal Life Organics, a
clean oral care brand trusted by families and wellness forward
women alike. She's a single mom and fierce advocate for
special needs families. She doesn't just develop products, she tests
them at home, formulating clay based toothpowders, detox rinses and
peroxide free whiteners that put results and safety on equal footing.

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She's rid offining what it means to smile clean and
proving that performance doesn't have to come with a chemical
warning label. She's going to be joined today by one
of the most respective operators in consumer product innovation. Sean
Doherty is the co founder of Mophi Yes, the battery
case that saved millions of iPhones, which she grew from
a barn in Michigan into a two hundred and fifty

(18:04):
million dollar global brand. Now is co founder and CEO
of Society Brands. She's building a portfolio of wellness for
his companies like Primal Life Organics, giving mission driven founders
the infrastructure to scale without losing their soul. Amanda, Sean, Welcome.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
To the show, Superstars. Very exciting times.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
So Amanda, Well, I'm going to chat. I'm gonna chat
the wake up call because this is really what got me.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
With your story.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
The oral care industry is on track to hit like
sixty billion dollars globally, and yet most of that growth
is tied to synthetic ingredients and chemical based solutions.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
It's mind blowing when you do the research.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
What was your personal wake up call that made you say,
all right, there has to be a better way, and
I'm going to help pave that way.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
So I'm a mom and becoming a mom having kids
of my own always made me far more aware of
the things we're putting in our body, on our body,
around our bodies. But the moment I realized that my
kids toothpaste has a warning label, a poison control warningly,
it was just this massive wake up moments. You shouldn't
have a poison control warning label on something I'm asking
my kids to put in their mouth twice a day,
every day. So I was determined we had to have

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a better option.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, and that kind of clarity when wellness and motherhood collide, right,
it creates movements. You didn't just find a gap, you
filled it with purpose and performance, which brings me to you, Sean,
the founder instinct. I really want to talk about that.
You've been pitched by hundreds of brands, but only if
you truly align with the society brand's philosophy, and fewer

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still make it through the door.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
So what was it.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
About Amanda and about the primal life organics that made
you lean in and how do you recognize when a
brand has what it takes to scale without compromise.

Speaker 8 (19:41):
She's just full of life and she lives and brees
the brand. And that's how the best brands are created,
is for an internal need, whether it's back in the
day when my iPhone died and I knew the rest
of the world's iPhone was dying, or you know, just
waking up to the toxins that are being put in

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our body and needing to find a better solution. So
Amanda just lives in Breeze Primal Life Organics, and she
invents a lot of the products herself and does all
the jobs, really, and that's what an entrepreneur is. Just
someone that listens to the consumer and is near and
dear to the brand and is doing it for something

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much bigger than than I mean, what's bigger than your
kids and everyone else's kids. There's just so much doing
good that happens with some of these amazing brand founders
that we come upon, and Amanda's one of them.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Now, Amanda, let's chat about ingredients to watch right.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
So fluoride, sls, chickle sand, artificial dies ingredients still common
in mainstream products, even though many have been linked to endocrime, disruption, sensitivity,
and even gut imbalance. So what is the biggest red
flag ingredients women should look out for in their toothpaste
and whitening kids, and how does your formula tackle those issues?

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Naturally, let's talk about fluoride.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
We live in the country unfortunately that still tells us
that fluoride is key, but that's what we use to
keep our teeth strong, to keep our mouth healthy. Except
fluoride is absolutely linked to all of those things. It's
linked to fertility issues, gut issues, it is linked to
so many problems that are mainstream issues, thyroid issues. I mean,
how many people do you know with hyroid issues? Yet
we still we are still going out and we're buying

(21:23):
tubes of toothpaste, rushing our teeth with it twice a
day at least, and we're putting that fluoride in our
bodies and whole of your health and your entire body
is linked to your mouth, your gut health, your heart health,
your brain health. So everything you put in your mouth
is going to affect all of those different systems. And
we're still putting fluoride in all of these products and
telling people that that's safe and effective and that's what

(21:44):
you should use. So instead we switched over to nano hydroxyapetite.
So hydroxy appetite is absolutely the substance that is naturally
found within your teeth to enamel. So we added it
to the products so that it could help to remineralize
those teeth and restore that enamel as it's lost. And
then we paired it with the obromine, which is going
to help to strengthen that enamel. So we're going to
remineralize it, and then we're going to go ahead and

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help to strengthen it to make your teeth more cavity resistant.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
It's wild how.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Something so routine like brushing our teeth can be such
a hidden threat. I mean, you're empowering us to ask
better questions. So thank you now, Sean. Let's talk about
scaling without selling out right. It's no secret that clean
brands often get watered down as they grow. We've seen
it happen. Society brand seems to do things differently. How
do you help Primal Life Organics and their team keep

(22:32):
their formulas pure, their messaging tight, and their community trust
intact as they scale.

Speaker 8 (22:37):
I mean, we amplify the founder's vision.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
We don't dilute it.

Speaker 8 (22:43):
They all come in and they have these special sauces,
and so we really like to figure out what those
special sauces are and then you know, put the rest
of the ingredients on the table. We bring smart sourcing, supply,
Chaine support, finance, great partnerships.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
This one big shout out, big.

Speaker 8 (23:02):
Shout out to I Art, But the founder's voice stays
central and we just give it a bigger mic.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Now the whitening myth, and then I want to come
back to this.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Many women are afraid to whiten, especially those pregnant, breastfeeding,
or with sensitive guns. And like the quote unquote clean
options really don't work and the effective ones feel well risky.
So can you explain how your peroxide free system works
and why it's different from what's on the market today.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
So unfortunately, everybody's still using peroxide and it's a type
of bleach. Who wants to pull bleach in their mouth
and then it causes sensitivity, it's eating away at your enamel.
You know, we're not actually we're not actually whitening teeth
in the way that we think that we are when
we're using those products. We're stripping away the enamel and
we're causing damage to our teeth to make them whiter,
and it's not permanent, it's not going to stay.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
So instead we switched over to PAP.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
So PAP is a alternative that's going to gently and
safely whiten that enamel. So it's going to oxidize those
stains and help lift them. So it works together with
those other ingredients that we just talked abouts that night.
Nanohydroxy appetite is going to help remineralize that, the obromine
is going to make the enamel stronger, and then that
PAP is going to help lift those stains and keep

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them away without causing sensitivity, without causing pain, without causing
gum recession. We're not going to hurt our teeth and
we're going to cause lasting results.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
They're safe.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
That's powerful, a whitening system that doesn't force you to
choose between safety and results. And you've made Smilecare something
we can trust again. It's so sweet, absolutely no pun intended. Now,
Sean women are leading the clean economy, as you could
see here in this room. Here we go, so over
eighty percent of households purchase decisions are made by women, right,
and moms in particular. We're driving the demand for clean

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alternatives across every category.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Why do you think.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Female CEOs, leaders, founders, and presidents, especially moms are uniquely
equipped And I see that uniquely Sorry for the guys
out there, but we are uniquely equipped to build lasting
brands in the clean wellness space.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Tell me, they're on the front line.

Speaker 8 (25:03):
You know, they're breeding the labels, they're they're protecting their families,
they're they're listening to others are doing and you know,
once you hear it, I think knowledge is power, it's
hard to unhear it. And I don't think that there's
any anyone's going to disagree that that. You know, we're
a little bit behind the times over here in the
United States and it's time for us to catch up.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
But they don't need research, They live the need. They
have empathy, they have execution.

Speaker 8 (25:31):
They're superstars and they're creating these products, right because if
they can't find them, they're going out and creating it
like that, and that's even amazing more amazing, right, So
we're finding a whole new clan of superstar entrepreneurs out there.
And if they can't find what they're looking for, they're
creating it now.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Mandel, I'm going to go back to the feedback loop.
Whether you're building Primal Life Organix, whether Sean, you're building
society brands, you're breeding a community. And the testimonials from women,
from moms, from even dentists certainly are pouring in. So
what are some of the most surprising or meaningful things
customers have told you about your products and how has

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that shaped what you're building next.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
Amanda Shan and I were an event not too long
ago that was for retail expansion, and I had vendors
and customers coming up to us saying, I use your products,
I know your brand, I love it. We actually had
a booth next to us where the ladies that were
sitting there said that it changed her life. She said
she had always had awful oral care, that she had
had to have lots of procedures, really invasive, painful procedures.

(26:34):
She hated going to the dentists. She feared those visits.
And she came across our products and using our products
change that game for her. And I can't tell you
how many times I've heard that. You know, people say
that they look forward to brushing now and I love
hearing that. But further than that, they get really excited
about that first dentist appointment after they've switched to our products.
And I'll tell you, honestly, my oldest son is autistic,

(26:55):
and oral care was always this massive issue for us.
He didn't want to brush his teeth, didn't like the
mint toothpaste, he didn't like normal toothpaste, and I could
not get him to brush his teeth. Now he's excited.
He loves brushing his teeth, and he gets excited about
the flavors. So every single month he asked me, Okay,
what's this flavor? Can I try it? What's the next flavor?
Can I try it? And you know what fun that

(27:16):
is to see this child that I couldn't get to
brush his teeth excited about his oral care.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
That warms my heart absolutely, all right, So let's move
on here to sean right. Legacy as a metric. You've
built one legacy brand with Mophi. Society Brands feels like
your second act, but this time focused on health, women
and longevity, which I love.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Beautiful tagline. What kind of legacy do you want?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Society Brands and even Primal Life organics by extension to
leave behind in this wellness wave.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
That's a great question.

Speaker 8 (27:47):
I mean, legacy to me equals lasting impact, not just hype.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
So we want to educate.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
Primal Life is about oral health education and that needs
to be a thing because our teeth will be important
to us for our our entire life. And florid free
options because we know that florid is not good for
the mouth. And like I said earlier, you know, at

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Society Brands, we don't just grow brands, but we protect them,
and similar to Mophi, you know, we help them attempt
to become you know, brands that are loved by consumers
and respected by consumers and trusted by consumers, but eventually
household names.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
We need change.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
Success is measured, but the lives we improve, you know,
not about necessarily the number of units we sell. And
so it's time for change.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
All right, Amanda.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Before we sign off, I heard there's something spicy launching
in the lineup this month.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Tell me more so.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
Our next line is a cinnamon line. So we decided
to take the power, with the really amazing power of
cinnamon essential oil and take it and put it in
all of these amazing products that we have. So cinnamon
essential oil has this amazing antibacterial property, So you need
to stop that acid attack.

Speaker 9 (29:05):
In your mouth.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
Anytime we have an overabundance of bacteria in our mouths,
it causes that acid that eats away at our enamel.
So anytime we can find something that will help to
do away with that bad bacteria in our mouths without
harming the good bacteria that our oral microbiome absolutely needs,
we want to add that into these products. So we're
going to take those down a boost and the activated

(29:28):
charcoal and all of those clays, and we're going to
add cinnamon essential oil to it to make this amazing,
delicious product that makes people want to brush again. You know,
there's a lot of people in the world that don't
like mince or don't like the fruity flavors, but cinnamon
is just this awesome, spicy concept that also is really
really healthy for you.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
While we're at the end of our date, my dear girls,
thank you so much for joining me today.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
It was so much fun.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Amanda Sean, you guys are powerhouses and I'm so wanted
to walk this journey with you.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Thank you Veran had to be walking in with you too.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
To learn more, visit Primal Life Organics dot com and
you can also follow a man that at primal Life org.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
To follow Shawn's portfolio of purpose.

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Driven brands, you get head to Society Underscore Brands and
the Clean Collective segment is brought to you by Society Brands,
purpose driven platform investing in founder led wellness companies that
are changing the way we live, shop and self care.
Until next time, Brush clean, scale smart, and never underestimate
the power of a mom's mission.

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You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
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I'm your host, Zen Sam's Welcome back to the Going
Deep segment, brought to you by Co two Lift in
our Expert on the Microphone series. Today, we're joined by
doctor Kamakshi Zeidler. She's a Board certified plastic surgeon and
founder of Esthetics, the premier plastic surgery and dermatology practice

(31:26):
in Silicon Valley, California. In her early medical career, doctor
Zeidler personally witnessed many women in her family, from ants,
to cousins to even her sisters, struggle with the effects
of the brakagene mutation and breast cancer, giving her a
motivation to seek out additional training for breast esthetic and
reconstructive surgery. Today, she's an expert in the field, and

(31:46):
she excels in sophisticated procedures like revision cosmetic surgery, making
her renown not only in the heart of Silicon Valley,
but around the world. Today, She's going to join me
to break down everything there is to know about breast implants,
from s sizing, to placement to surgical technique. With Kylie
Jenner recently divulging the details of her breast implants, She's

(32:07):
got the internet talking, and doctor Z is going to
weigh in right now with her expert opinion.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Welcome to the show, Superstar, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
So. After an inquiring fan posted a TikTok about Kylie
Jenner's flattering boob job, Kylie casually replied coming clean with
the specifics four hundred and forty five cc, moderate profile,
half under the muscle silicone and even naming her surgeon,
Garth Fisher. Naturally, this sparked discussions about both implant sizing

(32:36):
and surgical technique, So I'd love to get your.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Thoughts on this. Let's start with sizing.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Four hundred and forty five cc is generally considered a
larger implant, especially for someone with a smaller frame like hers,
and some plastic surgeons have shared their thoughts online, calling
Jenner's implants too big. So when it comes to choosing
the right implant size, how do you help patients find
what's best for their body versus what's trending online. I

(33:01):
mean in today's age, is there still a common misconception
that bigger is always better or do you find that
proportion is becoming the priority.

Speaker 10 (33:10):
I think you're really hitting the nail on the head
saying that proportion is really where we're going for you know,
rewinding a little bit, you know, the reason why women
get breast augmentation is to feel confident in their bodies, right.
That's really the ultimate goal, not to look a certain
way in a photo. And so hitting it right is
really about getting the patient to the aesthetic.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Work that they want.

Speaker 10 (33:31):
Of course, as doctors were here to make sure they
do that safely right and get really long lasting results.
So there's a lot that goes into picking the right implant.
And I think that most of us as surgeons have
our own methods. You know, for me and many of
my colleagues, we do have patients bring in inspiration photos
and a lot of people do bring in photos of

(33:53):
Kylie Jenner and and there are people who you know,
bring in different photos. And what it's doing is it's
patients doing their homework to kind of come up with
the aesthetic that they really feel is right for them.
It doesn't necessarily mean that they know this is the
exact implant and style and profile and the way the

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surgery needs to be done, because everyone's anatomy is different.
So but back to that fact, you know, a celebrity
who has a well known body and an aesthetic is
a great way for patients to be able to understand
and communicate what they want.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Now, let's chat about both placement and surgical techniques.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
So I'm going to pivot back to Kylie.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
So Kylie shared that her implants were inserted half under
the muscle. So can you break down what this means
and how it compares to other placement options and in
general what surgical techniques you're seeing is the most popular.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Or in demand right now?

Speaker 6 (34:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Absolutely, So.

Speaker 10 (34:48):
I think implants can be placed over the muscle, under
the muscle, or this part under the muscle, which we call.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
A dual plane.

Speaker 10 (34:54):
Dual plane meaning you know two things, a little bit
of this, a little bit of that, and dual plane
sickly means that you lift the muscle up a little
bit to get a little bit of lifts. So when
you lift the muscle up and allow it to window
shade up. It actually pulls the breast tissue up. So
it's a way of doing a little bit of an
internal lift if the breast tissue is a little bit

(35:15):
loose and a patient doesn't want to get a full
surgical lift with scars on the breast.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
And that's what that part under the muscle means.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Wow, all right, I didn't even know. See, I learned
something new every day on the show. I love it now.
At the end of the day, A lot of aesthetic
surgery trends and beauty standards are driven by celebrities. But
as we know, plastic surgery is never a one size
fits all. So with so many celebrities and influencers sharing
their implant details publicly and coming in with those photos,

(35:44):
how do you guide patients towards an implant that fits
their anatomy and lifestyle rather than chasing after exactly what
their favorite star has had done.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Right again, I think it's reframing.

Speaker 10 (35:54):
The photos are really excellent to communicate a look like
as surgeons, I can look at someone's body, I know
what the surgery can do, but a patient may not,
and so the photos help us communicate that. Being said,
when you come in for a consultation, you really need
to look at your anatomy. Measure the width of your chest.
Implants that sit too wide can give like too much

(36:15):
side boob or too much cleavage.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
You know.

Speaker 10 (36:17):
Sometimes patients call it credit card cleavage where the breasts
are always touching, and sometimes that's not the desired look.
Sometimes it is. So when I'm having a consultation with patients,
I'm looking at the anatomy and saying, for the look
that you want, this is the implant that can work.
This is the anatomy you have. Trends definitely change over time,

(36:38):
but again with that under over the muscle issue, what
we're seeing much more is a new generation of implants,
you know, the motiva smooth silk surface that does not
create capsular contraction. It's one that can be more safely
placed above the muscle without.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Fear of capsular contracture. And then the.

Speaker 10 (36:56):
Feeling of the silicone gel and implants now even a
next generation's sailing implant, they're such that patients don't get
lots of visibility and rippling. So again there's lots of techniques,
lots of anatomy is ways to get great results, but
the trend is definitely towards a less invasive and a
more preservative approach over the muscle.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Great information.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Now, the silicone versus saline debate has been ongoing for years,
but in recent years, in recent conversations, we're hearing more
buzz around newer options, like you just mentioned the motiva implants,
which many patients are gravitating towards because of its natural
feel and movement. Doctor Z, I know you're experienced with

(37:40):
these implants and you offer them at your practice. Do
you find your patients today to be more concerned with
how their implants look or how they feel or a
balance of both, And how does motiva fit into all
of this?

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Absolutely, I think it's a balance of both.

Speaker 10 (37:56):
I think as surgeons and we are seeing patients more
in movement when people are looking at before and after results.
We have Instagram now and then the video component of
this is significant what looks good and just the static
before and after is not enough. The way that people
look in motion when it comes to exercise, when it
comes to intimacy, you know, breasts move and the way

(38:18):
that they look when they move is a big part
of things, and that does go similarly to the way
that they feel, you know, and the feel I think
is twofold. The actual feel of the implants and the
softness of them, but also where they're placed in the
body is how they feel. The mind body connection of implants,
you know, I think a lot. I definitely favor above

(38:40):
the muscle, just because you know, breasts are not under
your muscles, and so the feeling of movement when you're exercising,
when you're enjoying your body with intimacy, it's important, and
so I think that equal balance of both.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Now again with more celebrities pulling back the curtain on
their surgeries instead of the superc and then of the past,
do you find that the added level of transparency, added
level of transparency is helping patients ask better and healthier
questions or have you seen an impact on patient beauty
standards and expectations.

Speaker 10 (39:13):
I think the transparency is amazing and I'm like, I'm
all for it. I'm really grateful that, you know, some
celebrities have led the way, and I think, you know, yes,
Kylie shared hers and then people are sharing their thing,
and what it does is it brings up the conversation
around There's many different ways that great results can be achieved,
and I think it takes away some of the stigma.

(39:36):
I mean, breast aesthetics in particular has been clauda with
so much stigma outside of all of the medical components
to concerns around safety and longevity, but the desire to
enhance your body a certain way has been something that
a lot of women feel that they need to keep
a secret. And then we see the transparency is transcending

(39:58):
beyond breasts aesthetics. People are talking about what they do
for their face and you know, having facelifts and feeling
confident about it. And so I've talked to some of
my patients and they say, it's it's not that it's
opening the door to this is exactly what I want,
but it's more this general era of an acceptance of
you know, doing procedures to feel confident in your own

(40:19):
body and erasing that stigma.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
So I think it's wonderful. I agree. We are at
the end of our date, my dear, Thank you so
much for coming on.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
It's always a blast having you and I learned so
much and I just I now want to just come
to you for like all my proceivers, mach you know
how to find me.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
That was the incredible doctor.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Come back to Zeidler, board certified plastic surgeon and founder
of Esthetics Definitely check out her practice online at esthetics
dot com and follow her and on the gram at
Esthetics MD or at doctor Zeidler. You're listening to a
moment of Zen right here on seven ten WR the
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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area.

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I'm your host.

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Is Zenzam's Welcome back to the Better Brighter You segment
brought to you by Sispera.

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Today we're featuring doctor Kurn Low.

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He's a double board certified cosmetic and pediatric dermatologist currently
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and managing complex skin conditions across the lifespan.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
He's going to join me right.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Now to take a peek behind the curtain at the
ingredients in popular pigment correctors, the role of clinical research
and balancing safety and efficacy. Welcome to the show, superstar.

Speaker 9 (42:21):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
It's nice to be back, So excited to have you back.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
So before we dive into breaking down some popular ingredients
in pigment addressing skincare, let's talk a bit about what
goes on behind the scenes, specifically clinically backing.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
So we often hear the term medical grade.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
It's thrown around in the skincare world making a product
sound elevated in both quality and safety, but in reality
it's primarily a marketing term because, as we know, not
all skincare products are created equal, and while some companies
invest heavily in clinical research and backing, others rely more
on trends and marketing. So, with this in mind, how

(42:59):
much waste good we give to clinical data when choosing products?
And do you believe certain brands stand out because of
their substantial clinical data beyond trending, branding and influencer hYP
You know, the.

Speaker 9 (43:11):
Term medical grade has become very popular and patients come
in all the time asking about it. It's very popular
in social media. And the thing is, you're right, it
is a primarily marketing term. There are some brands, like
you said, that do invest a lot of money into
research and development and create skincare that is sold in
a medical office that's not accessible to the general public,
which tells us that they probably have studies in data

(43:33):
issue that this has to be prescribed or used under
the guidance of a dermatologist or a skincare provider, So
it's a little different, you know, and I think the
term is misused.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Now when we talk about ingredients.

Speaker 9 (43:46):
There's a lot of ingredients that are very common, So
things like seal, silic acid, retinol, hyaluronic acid. These are
very cheap ingredients that a lot of companies have leveraged,
and so you'll see a lot of brands actually own
multiple brands.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
So one large.

Speaker 9 (43:58):
Company can own a lug brand, they can own a
regular store brand, and you know, a lot of these
ingredients are sourced from the same place. So I think
it kind of depends on what you're looking at, the
ingredients you're looking at, So rather than focusing on a
product in marketing, it might be better to look at
the difference in the ingredients because that's probably what dictates
whether something is a medical grade sold in the office,

(44:19):
has scientific data versus something that seems really fancy but
has the basic skincare ingredients that you can get over
the counter.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah, and that's where the store brand skincare comes in,
and that's where you have to really look and read
and educate yourself.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Now, let's talk a little bit about hydroquinone.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
It's a common topical skin lightning agent used to treat
conditions like malastma and hyperpigmentation. Despite its popularity, I know
it comes with some serious concerns. Can you break down
some of the concerns associated with hydroquinone and in your
expert opinion, why do you think it continues to be
used and remain available on the market.

Speaker 9 (44:57):
So, hydroquinone is actually one of the oldest ingredients that
we have for hyperpigmentation, molasm and pigmentary disorders. It works
very well. We know that the FTA actually removed hydroquinon
over the counter. It used to be available in a
two percent formulation over the counter. It's no longer available
because of the risks. And the biggest risk is we
know that there have been reports of patients that has

(45:18):
been you know a people using over the counter hydroquinone
for long periods of time with other medications and it
has led to some side effects, particularly one which is
really rare called okrhdosis, where instead of your skin getting
a lightning, you know, lighter, when you're using the topical hydroquinone,
it actually gets darker and it's an ensmatic process and

(45:40):
that pigment is very hard to treat, so hydroquinon currently
is only available as a prescription. Hydroquinone is extremely effective.
We still use it because even with all the available options,
it's still one of the best. The problem is you
want to use it for short periods of time, So
you want to use it under the guidance you know
of your skincare provider and use it for three months
at a time and then take a break. And so

(46:01):
we all need non hydroquinone products to also manage hyperpigmentation,
to give our skin a break, to reduce the risks
of okrahonosis and other side effects like irritation. What hydroquinon
does it reduces the activity of an enzyme called tyrosinase.
Tyrosinase is an enzyme that helps make pigment in the skin.
When you have hyperpigmentation or malasma, you have excess a

(46:22):
melanin in the skin and that is due to overactivity
of tyrosinase. Now, malasma is a little bit more complicated
because malasma is a disease that involves hormones, sun exposure,
pigment vessels, so it's a little bit more complicated. Hydroquinone
only really addresses one of those concerns, which is the
pigment process. And we know conditions like malasma often involve

(46:43):
multiple pillars in pathways. So for example, in the summertime,
when you know for the three months in New York
that there's really high UV index, that's the best time
to use hydroquinone because that's when your malasma is likely
to flare. After the three months, we really want you
to switch to something like sistamine and sispera or other
non hydroquinone agents so you can maintain the safety and

(47:03):
efficacy of hydroquinone while still benefiting from a product that
can help maintain your results. So it's balance. I think
it's all about balance and the appropriate use.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
And I love that you brought sispara into the picture.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
I want to get to that in just a sec
but I have I want to come back to something
you mentioned earlier about the okrnosis. So do you think
exogenous okrinosis is underreported? If you will, because not any
many people are not talking about it. And if you
do believe that it is underreported, what should both providers
and patients be on the lookout for to catch it

(47:36):
early or prevent it altogether, because this sounds very damaging.

Speaker 9 (47:40):
I definitely think it's underreported because I think it's very
hard to diagnose, so sometimes you really can't tell it
that during the biopsye We think of it being really
bad when we see it as worse. But there are
cases that are probably less severe that we're just not
reporting or thinking about and still treating as hyperpigmentation. And
I think the other issue is, I think there's not

(48:01):
a lot of great diagnostic criteria other than doing the biopsy,
and we don't really want to biopc sometimes our skin
of color patients because it could leave a scar. So
now we have this really bad pigmentary condition and a scar,
so it's almost better to treat, you know, when we
see it aggressively and treated early. The problem is, I
think for people who are looking for okunosis, if you
have a patient with hyperpigmentation and they're just not responding

(48:24):
to what you're giving them, things are getting worse. If
you see papules, which are little bumps in the hyperpigmented areas,
that's when you need to start being concerned about potentially
exogynous oquinosis and you want to think about the common sights.
So it really likes the cheeks, it really likes the temples,
it really likes the areas where there's a lot of
sun exposure. And the key to differentiating hyperpigmentation from okunosis is,

(48:45):
like I said, the skin in ochronosis is going to
be rough textured and bumpy. There are going to be
bumps in there as opposed to flat pigmentation, which is
what we see with malasma.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Okay, So now, given the concerns with hydroqunona, you've we've
been told talking about it now, so many patients and
providers are looking for safer yet still effective alternatives.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Right.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
So one product that's been gaining a lot of attention
you mentioned it earlier is Sispara. It's a non hydroquinone
option utilizing system as its key ingredient. Not to mention,
it's back by rigorous clinical research with over twenty published
clinical cases and trials.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
I'd love to hear your thoughts on Sispera.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
As an alternative and in your experience, how does it
compare in terms of efficacy, safety, and patient satisfaction.

Speaker 9 (49:29):
More importantly, those the spair is a really cool ingredient.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
You know.

Speaker 9 (49:32):
Sispera also we know is a very potent deepigmenting agent,
so it works really well for pigmentation, very similarly to hydroquinone.
It has a very unique mechanism of action and usually
the you know, the product has been combined with other
ingredients now in its new formulation to help improve the
impact that it has on pigmentation. Studies have shown that
this day, I mean, is just as effective as the

(49:54):
four percent hydroquinone, which is typically the standard of care
when we're starting to treat hyperpigmentation without the risks of
exogenis opradosis. It is a really strong product, so it's
not like hydroquinone where you apply it on the skin
and you leave it on overnight. This is something you
want to leave on for short periods of time, also
known as a short contact therapy, because it is so strong.

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I think it's a great product to use in your
you know, for me, it's one of the malasma pigmentary essentials.
And you know that's because like I said, we can
we still use hydroquinon, but we can't use it forever,
so we need something so for three months of the summer,
we're using our hydroquinone for six to nine months when
things are stable, and at bay we use this despair
to prevent it from coming back. Also, Suspa is safer

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to use in areas that are a little bit more sensitive,
like on the upper lip where people often get irritation
from hydroquinone, or if people have pigmentation around their eyes,
or if people have pigmentation on their body. Hydroquinone, while
a great agent, can also be irritating and drying. I've
even seen patients that have gotten contact dermatitis or irritation
from hydroquinone, and that can make your pigmentation worse.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
So no one how to use these new products. I
think this is key.

Speaker 6 (50:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Oh, thanks so much for all of this information. I
love having you on.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
You're so full of knowledge, You're so easy to talk
to and fund to interview.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
You are a plethora of knowledge. So thank you so
much for coming on.

Speaker 9 (51:08):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
That was the incredible doctor Kuran Lole, double board certified
cosmetic and pediatric dermatologists. Definitely follow him on Instagram at
sir Dermsalot, where.

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He continues to educate to help you stay informed. And
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