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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to a Moment of Zen. Time to sit back
and relax. As model, actress, mentor and super mom, Zen
SAMs takes you on a sexy and wild ride covering
the latest in film, fashion, pop culture, cryptocurrency, fintech, cannabis,
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(00:29):
Zen SAMs.

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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area. You're listening to a
Moment of Zen right here on seven to ten. Woar
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Sam's celebrating six incredible years on air and marking episode
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segment brought to you by One's fon a Coconut. We're
joined by Kevin Lionel, clothing designer for the NHL, and
Gabe Ihorn, entrepreneur, founder of the faith based brand Praise
and creator of the platform Verified. We're chatting the faith frequency,
how staying connected to a higher power unlocks creativity, discipline

(01:55):
and destiny in our brand new Sculpting the Future segment
brought to you by Tiger Esthetics, a global leader in
regenitive medicine. Were joined by Carolyn Vanhove, President of Tiger Aesthetics.
Today we're diving into adding volume and restoring confidence as
we explore the breakthrough fat allograph filler that's transforming breasts, bodies,

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Speaker 3 (03:50):
Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area and beyond. You're listening
to a moment of Zen right here on seven ten
WR the voice of neurik iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zense.
Welcome back to the Hydration with Heart segment, brought to
you by Once Upon a Coconut, because true hydration nourishes
the body, mind and of course our spirit. Right now,
we're diving into something that underpins elite performance and entrepreneurial success,

(04:14):
alike faith alignment and connection to a higher power. Not religion,
but that inner frequency, that higher vibration, that sense of
purpose guiding you when the lights are brightest and when
you're in the dark. Did you know that recent research
found student athletes report higher levels of belief, behaviors, and
identity relating to faith the non athletes. Interesting and another

(04:37):
study found that among athletes, religious psychological factors explained roughly
twenty one percent of the variance in self perceived performance.
That tells us belief isn't soft, it's actually showing up
in results with us. Right now, are two creators who
live at the intersection of discipline and purpose. First we
have Kevin Lionel, clothing designer for the NHL, whose reimagining

(05:00):
sports memorabilia through luxury design using rare fabrics, archival materials,
and handcrafted techniques. And second we have the amazing Gabe Einhorn,
twenty three year old entrepreneur, founder of the faith based
brand Praise, creator of the platform Verified, moving with purpose
across business and belief. We're going to be chatting faith frequency.

(05:21):
How staying connected to a higher power unlocks creativity, discipline,
and destiny. Welcome, Thank you, thank you, Kevin. All right,
let's chat career and faith in that foundation. So you've
operated at the highest levels in sport and now in design,
but both actually require relentless discipline and a strong mindset.
So I want to begin by exploring how you tapped

(05:42):
into something beyond yourself very early on. So can you
take us back to an early moment in your athlete
or design journey when you recognized, well, this is meant
for me, the timing is right, and explain how your
belief for connection to that higher power help you recognize
that path.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
So to take it back, I want to go back
to when I was like six years old and the
first spot I grew up playing was baseball, and at
the time, I knew something was there was a calling
for me there because when we were playing t ball,
I was the only kid on the team that was
actually able to hit the ball really well and just
run the base as well. And at that moment, I
realized there was something more that I couldn't explain that

(06:24):
I was just meant to do. So growing up playing
baseball and just really tapping into my creativity through sports,
it really allowed me to really understand that there's more
to them just being a great player. There's something that's
tapped There's a frequency you got to tap into that
allows you to be successful in what you do. And
I feel like as the years went on and the

(06:46):
career choices I was going towards. I've always tapped into
the frequency of what felt best when I was either
playing a sport or designing, and I have to say
that as the years went on and I really started
to figure things out, frequency, or I like to say flow,
state of allowing myself to do what comes to me
naturally is the best way to tap into it. Like

(07:07):
with me right now and designing me being able to
just pick up a sewing machine and trying out a
new skill I've never tried before. That was my north start.
I didn't know where it was going to lead me to,
but it allowed me to take a direction that I've
never done just because it came naturally. Like when you
know that something's meant for you, now only would you

(07:29):
perform at it really easily, but the enjoyment of doing
it just skyrockets, and you know you're doing something right
when you're just fully tapped into the emotional side of
it and it's allowing you to be the best version
of yourself.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Beautiful.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
I'm going to pivot to you, Gabe, because I know
that this is right along everything that you and I
have talked about, So I want to dig into what
separated you So in your venture with praise and verified,
what's one moment you look back at and said that
wasn't luck, that was a frequency shift, a sign from
something higher, And how did your faith lead you to

(08:05):
lean into that moment? For sure?

Speaker 6 (08:07):
Yeah, I mean thanks for having me on. So the
first time I went to go film content in Times Square,
I went out with a friend. I wrote on a sign,
did you pray today? And then I said, let's pray together.
I held up the sign there for about thirty minutes
and nobody stopped. They kept asking people, they said no, no,
thank you. And I looked at my sister she was
recording me, and I was like, should we just go home?
Like maybe this is not what we're supposed to do.

(08:27):
Then a guy came up to me, a younger kid,
and he's like, I love what you're doing, Like, let's
say a quick prayer, and we set a prayer together
in the middle of Times Square and he said, you know,
thanks for what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Keep it up.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
And at that moment I knew like there's a deeper
purpose for this, and God was showing me that it's
powerful that I can inspire people pray with them, talk
about faith and there's one quote that sticks with me
since then is God is never late. He's always on time.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Amazon. That's some heavy stuff, Gabe. That insight is gold
because most people wait for permission. You recognize the pulse
right and you went right where you had to go
when you felt it, and that's where the true differentiator
lies for sure. Now let's chat about the hidden struggle
and that reveal moment, Kevin. So. Success is glamorous on

(09:14):
social media right, but behind the scenes, the story is
always more interesting. It's the collapse, the doubt, the moment
you're alone with yourself that often berths your breakthrough. Can
you share a moment, maybe off camera, unseen, when your
career felt like it was slipping away? Injury, defeat, identity shift.
How did you lean into faith when you couldn't rely

(09:37):
solely on your talent and what changed after that? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I feel like the moment for me was when I
dislocated my shoulder playing of baseball. Actually, because for all
my life I thought injuries just weren't a thing, because
I've been fortunate enough to never really experience it till
that moment, and it slowed me down as a ballplayer
because it was like, wow, I'm not invincible in that degree.

(10:01):
Like there's hurdles sometimes in life. So for me, it
was it was understanding that, like, all right, now that
I'm hurt, what's something I could do right, So allowing
the healing process of my body to get back to shape,
but not letting my motivation get destroyed because of this hurdle.
So like tapping back into faith, it was allowing me

(10:22):
to just understand what I need to do right in
life to not only improve my recovery, but improve my mindset.
And you know, like getting hurt, like going back to frequency,
it's a low vibrational thing to experience. But as in life,
you got you gotta have ebbs and flows, and you
gotta understand how to elevate yourself in situations that you're in.

(10:42):
And at that moment, it was just more about all right,
this is temporary. Success is still on the other side
of the hill. I need to climb this hill be
the best person that I can potentially be, really follow
God's step of allowing myself to reset potential and with
time like oh no, Like you know, sometimes setbacks usually

(11:03):
they're usually temporary, So you got to remember that and
allow your faith, your faith to really really amplify yourself
to get to the next level.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, setbacks are blessings in disguise. That's a fact. So, Gabe,
you're already giving today's entrepreneurs permission to believe differently just
by what you've accomplished at twenty three and your drive.
But I want to bring it down into the practical
Faith is feeling but also action. So in your experience,
what's one specific mindset shift or faith driven action you

(11:33):
took that turned into a business advantage, something you tell
young athletes or entrepreneurs they can do tomorrow for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
What one mindset shift that I made was that prayer
is not something you have to do, It's something you
get to do right, It's a privilege. So I try
to start every morning when I wake up, first thing
I do is I talk to God. I thank Him
for blessing me with another day, because every day, every
day is a blessing, and you know not every day
is given. If you're going to try one thing tomorrow,
try to wake up tomorrow morning and thank God and

(12:01):
try to talk to him throughout the day. Because if
you talk to God throughout the day and you realize
that God is with you. You'll realize that you're you're
really never alone and there's always somewhere there with.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
You that's actionable, and that's exactly what our audience, what
the audience wants, because belief becomes real when we see
how to use it. Now, let's let's chat career vision
and alignment forward for you, Kevin. So you've already transformed
your identity from athlete to designer. That was no easy feat.
As you look ahead, how are you ensuring you stay
connected to that higher frequency that you've tapped into.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, I for me staying staying connected with the higher frequency.
It's just it's just allowing the like going back to
what we were saying, the north Star, God you the
right place, right and the only way to get to
these levels, to the next frequency is to take the
proper steps, not just spiritually but also you know in
real life, like a lot like just being an amazing

(12:50):
human being, uh, doing all the little steps that make
you now any just mentally health healthier, but also physically healthier.
And you got to just keep doing that to keep
yourself alive because because as a designer now I want
to create like something bigger than sports, right, Like I
want to be able to have the licenses for MBA,
MLB and other sports leagues, but I also want to
create like a creative world kind of how like Roth Lauren,

(13:13):
he's not just clothing anymore. He has home decore, he
does a lot of everything. So I want to be
in that level where my brand is sustainable and long
lasting as much as possible. But I only could get
to that if I'm on the proper frequency to get
me to those levels. So that's where I'm at, just
being the best human being I could be. Every single day.
It's happening with God and taking the steps forwards to

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create that reality.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Everything worth it is built for tomorrow, right And when
you stay aligned, when you stay tuned to your frequency,
that next chapter becomes the strongest one. Yes, Gabe, we
started this conversation talking about identity and belief, move through
strategy and step back.

Speaker 7 (13:53):
Now.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I want us to land on legacy. What you're building
isn't just for you, it's for everyone listening. So when
you think about your legacy for your brand, your faith,
your community, what do you want the younger generation, young athletes, creators,
and entrepreneurs listening right now? To take away about connection
and alignment and purpose. I mean, what message do you

(14:13):
hope echoes in their lives.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
That's a great question. So I'm Jewish, my family's from Israel,
but my message is for everyone. I want to make
faith cool again. I want to make believing in God
cool again. I want people to be proud of their faith,
no matter what religion you are, no matter where you're from.
I want people to be proud of that, to talk
about it, to realize God is with you when things
get tough, when push comes to shove, God is always
with you. And you know there there's one quote from

(14:37):
the Tora that I always like to quote.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
It's God is with you wherever you go.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
And if you remember that one line, I promise your
whole life will change.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
That's beautifully said. And we are at the end of
our date. My friends. Thank you so much for coming
on and inspiring.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Us for sure, thanks for having us absolutely.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
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Keeps keep believing, keep aligning your heart with your hustle.
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Tri State area. You're listening to a moment of Zen
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New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host. Zenzan's. Debuting right now
is our brand new segment, Sculpting the Future, brought to
you by Tiger Aesthetics, a global leader in regenerative medicine.

(15:56):
Today we're exploring a breakthrough that is transforming both aesthetics
and women's health. Our headliner Well, it says it all.
Add volume, restore confidence, the breakthrough fat, allographed filler, transforming breasts, bodies,
and aesthetics. Their platform advances regenitive medicine with scientific precision,
innovation and profound respect for the gift of tissue donation.

(16:19):
Their aesthetics division delivers precision engineer technologies spanning facial rejuvenation,
breast aesthetics, and body conjuring, all rooted in advanced biomaterials
in real clinical outcomes. And I can speak to this firsthand.
In September, I personally underwent an allocate treatment and gained
a full cup size naturally, no implants, no general anesthesia,

(16:40):
no synthetic material, and the feel is organic and structurally
supportive in a way women have been longing for. And
the women who stand to benefit the most include explant patients,
BII survivors, double mistectomy with esthetic flat closures, autoimmune sensitive women,
and anyone really seeking natural volume without surgery. Leading the
chart jet Tiger Aesthetics is a woman whose expertise is

(17:03):
shaping the future of regenitive medicine. Carolyn van Hove is
the president of Tiger Aesthetics and a globally respected leader
with more than two decades across aesthetics, pharmaceuticals and medical devices.
She's held senior roles at Allergan, Ciantra and Siena Biopharmaceuticals,
served as CEO at Revel, and now leads one of

(17:23):
the most innovative portfolios in regenitive aesthetics. She also serves
on the board of Mission Plasticos, providing reconstructive care to
underserve patients worldwide. Welcome to the show, superstar.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Ah, thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's a pleasure, so excited to have this conversation with you.
So I'm going to dive right in, Caro. Tiger Esthetics
is advancing regenitive medicine with innovation, integrity, and that deep
respect for the donor families who make this possible, and
with tissue based therapies helping over one and a half
million patients every year. Your mission is rooted in both

(17:58):
science and humanity basically, so for listeners discovering Tiger for
the first time, how do you describe the company's core
mission and how does tissue donation shape the impact you're
making in regeneritive esthetics.

Speaker 7 (18:12):
Yeah, Well, the mission for Tiger Biosciences is pretty simple,
which is human health physically mentally, so more specifically Tiger Biosciences.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
At the core, it's a group and.

Speaker 7 (18:23):
An expert of tissue engineers, and our whole focus is
advancing regenerative medicine, like you said, and the way we
do that is through groundbreaking science, proprietary processing methods while
truly honoring that gift of tissue donation to save thousands
of lives.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
So what we.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
Have in our portfolio essentially is a product group that
are proprietary, non viable acellular human tissue based products that
support repair, reconstruction, replacement, and also supplementation of essential what
we call recipients, sell and tissue. So we lead with
very cool tissue engineered products that respect DFD regulation around it,

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which means that we want to preserve the intrinsic nature
of the tissue that we process. So all that just
to say, regenerative aesthetics and regenerative medicine, it's our passion.
Our technology platforms are really designed to support the body's
ability to heal itself.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Wow, I mean that purpose driven foundation is so powerful
the statement you just gave me, I mean it gives
women confidence that this isn't just aesthetics, it's healing, it's
ethics and innovation really working together.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
What you have is so proprietary, yes it is.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
And one thing that truly differentiates Tiger to my understanding,
is your vertical integration. Because few companies oversee every step
from donor screening to tissue collection, R and D, manufacturing
and distribution. So this is truly a beautiful roadmap. How
does Tigers fully integrate and model elevate SA and quality

(20:00):
control and the and more importantly the trusted clinicians and patients.
I mean, how can all of this come together in
your technology?

Speaker 7 (20:11):
Yeah, so when our owners got together, So Tuger Bioscience
is a privately owned company, two individuals that essentially came
together over two decades ago. Truly they created a business
model that was vertically integrated, meaning that the operations that
they own that they oversee encompasses anything from tissue recovery
to tissue processing all the way to compliant distribution of

(20:33):
those technologies. So essentially that formula they replicated them to
create an aesthetics division. So that means that we essentially
sourced the tissue from essentially tissue banks that are heavily
regulated here in the United States. We own the manufacturing,
we owned the processing of the tissue, We own the

(20:53):
commercialization and the distribution of the tissue.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
So all of those.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
Elements in this sort of you know, processing and commercial
cycle are owned by Tiger Biosciences.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
And what does that do for us? That means that essentially,
we can.

Speaker 7 (21:07):
Really vouch for the quality of the tissue, we can
vouch for the processing of the tissue. We can vouch
for the safety and the efficacy of obviously the products
that we make available to patients.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
And that's why the trust that clinicians and patients place
in your technology, that is the reason it makes so
much sense. When every step is controlled with precision, the
outcomes feel consistent, predictable, and incredibly natural. And that's essentially
what you're doing. Now, let's talk about aloclay because this
is the innovation everyone is buzzing about. Immediate volume, natural structure,

(21:40):
long lasting results, no general anesthesia, no implant, and no
need to harvest a patient's own fact these are key.
So for those hearing about it for the very first time,
what exactly is ALLOCLEI and what makes it such a breakthrough?
Natural volume restoration and body conjuring.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
Yeah, so Alika is truly disruption to the medical six market.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Right.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
Truly, what we have done is take essentially at a
post tissue fat and we have learned the process it
in a way where we retain the very best of
that fat. So it is a structural fat alligraph that
is made from minimally processed, purified at a post tissue
or fats. And essentially what it allows you to do
is really contour scope the body, give a targeted reinjection

(22:25):
of fat where you may have lost it, whether it
is the breast, whether it is the booty area, and
so on, in a way that is non surgical, doesn't
require general anesthesia, and essentially is with very little downtime.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
So I'm going to go one step further. You mentioned
a little bit on the use cases, but let's talk
about where alocli can be used. So structural volume loss
happens everywhere, Like you said, breast hips, glutes, post light,
boar irregularities. Now everyone is coming off of the or
on GLP ones, right, Alokle is giving women and men
that targeted natural options. So where in the body can

(23:00):
alloclaate be used specifically and which patients or esthetic goals,
if you will, is it best suited for.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
Yeah, So essentially alikle is appropriate.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
For homologous use, and what that means is it can
be administered anywhere in the body where fat exists. So
the most suited patient for alikle is someone who is
really looking for a targeted kind of volume enhancement. And
so think about the breast area. So perhaps you have

(23:31):
been on a medical weight loss drug and you have
some deflated sort of fatty tissue in the breast area.
It's an opportunity to add some volume back in. Some
women with implants have some rippling, wrinkling over time or
perhaps some separation of the implants. That again, when you
are able to kind of add some additional sort of

(23:51):
fat back to it, it sort of corrects that.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Look also a great use of alikle.

Speaker 7 (23:57):
Then if we look at the lower extremities below the waist,
so women oftentimes have sort of these divots, if you will,
that happen.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
In sort of the lateral hip sort of arena. We
call them hip dips.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
So again that is an opportunity to kind of reinject
some of that fat to contour it.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Out again. When you've been on a GLP one or
other medical weight.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
Loss drugs, you might have essentially desired weight loss, but
maybe a deflated booty.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
Again. Another opportunity for ali Clay.

Speaker 7 (24:26):
Other areas that we see some great work in is,
for example, some women who've had liposuction. Liposuction is a
difficult procedure and sometimes post LiPo section you can have
this unevenness of the skin. So alokle is a great
opportunity in that sort of fatty layer. So many many opportunities,
lots of versatile use. But think anywhere in the body

(24:49):
where fat already exists, it's an opportunity to cushion and
to structure that a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Now, let's talk about what aloclay is made from. You
touched on it a little bit. But patients today want transparency,
especially BII survivors, flat closure patients, and autoimmune sensitive women.
Those are three pillars of categories that are hyper sensitive.
So can you break down what aloclay is made of
and explain how this structural atipose matrix functions once it's

(25:17):
placed in the body.

Speaker 7 (25:18):
Yeah, so ali clay is truly coming from donated tissue.
So these are sort of obviously individuals that have deceased
and that prior to have consented to essentially donate their
tissue for a variety of medical purposes such.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
As what we use aliklay for. And so it is
donated tissue.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
It we take essentially the tissue from the abdominal area
because that is very kind of powerful tissue or at
a post tissue that has all the components that we want,
which is that at a post structure, the membrane and
then obviously strong connective tissue. So donate tissue comes from
the abdominal area and then we process it in a

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very rigorous manner so that it is obviously safe and
effective for use for homologous use.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
And what I love, Carol, and what women need to
hear is that this isn't just passive volume because the
matrix preserves the extracellular structure. It acts like a scaffold
that encourages the body' zone owned fat cells to migrate, stabilize,
and really integrate. And there are clinical papers showing natrices
can support neo adipogenesis, meaning that the body actually begins

(26:34):
to deposit and maintain its own fat in that area.
So you're not just getting volume. You're getting a foundation
in my opinion, that helps your body preserve it naturally,
and that's extremely important. And with that we are at
the end of our date. My friend. I appreciate you
coming on. I learned so much today and I know
our listeners and viewers did too. But you are you
are a scientist.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Thank you very much for having me.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
If you're listening and curious about natural breast shaping, gluteal enhancement,
or body conjuring without implants, without synthetic materials, and without
major surgery, you definitely want to head to Tiger Dashesthetics
dot com. That's Tiger dash Esthetics dot com where you
can check them out directly on the gram at Tiger
Esthetics Medical and at alloclay. That was Sculpting the Future,

(27:15):
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Speaker 3 (27:53):
Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area. You're listening to a
moment of Zen right here on seven ten WR the
of New york iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen Sam's Welcome
Back to the Better Brighter You segment brought to you
by Cispera, the leader in science back pigment correction. Today,
we're diving into a topic affecting millions worldwide. Hyperpigmentation one

(28:15):
of the most stubborn and emotionally taxing skin concerns. Studies
show that nearly forty percent of women of all skin
tones struggle with some form of pigment disorder. And as
we know, pigmentation is multifactorial, hormonal, inflammatory, environmental, which is
why solutions must be both science based and strategic. And
no one understands that better than today's guest doctor David

(28:37):
Goldberg is a board certified dermatologist, international lecture researcher, and
a true pioneer in energy based aesthetics. Since nineteen eighty five,
he has treated patients across the world while training thousands
of physicians and cutting edge laser and cosmetic technologies. In
twenty twenty, he merged with Schweiger Dermatology Group, now the
fourth largest dermatology group in the United States, where he

(28:58):
serves as the director of Cosmetic Dermatology and Clinical Research.
And if that weren't impressive enough, he's also an attorney,
a Ford log graduate right here from the hard of
New York City, bringing a rare legal lens to the
future of esthetic medicine. Welcome to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
It's great to be here.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
So before we get into the treatment landscape, I want
to start with a science because people often underestimate how
complex pigmentation really is. And we know from published dermatology
research that malasma is driven by hormones and UV exposure
and inflammation and vascular changes and even genetics, which is
why recurrence rates can be as high as fifty to

(29:35):
eighty percent, not without proper management. Right. So the complexity
directly impacts patients' expectations and timelines. So, but from your
vantage point, which is a very very unique and astute
one as a researcher and clinician, what does the latest
science tell us about why hyper pigmentations and conditions like
malasma are so complex and how should patients think about

(29:58):
realistic timelines for improvement.

Speaker 8 (30:01):
So high prementation is basically an umbrella that covers all
sources of excess pigment in the skin. It could be
age spots, it could be falling off a bike and
scraping your knee and the pigment is there. But as
you alluded to, melasma is the most complicated version of it,
and it does affect so many people and mostly women.
And so it's complicated because one it is hormonally based
and it's hard to really change that. You see it

(30:23):
in women on both control pills, you see it on
women who get who are around menopause. It's always worsened by
sun exposure. There's a genetic tendency, so a lot of
different factors, and if you don't treat it correctly and conservatively,
and you don't treat it over the long term, you
can potentially make things worse, and our goal is always
to make things better and not worse.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Now, one of the biggest shifts we've seen recently is
the move toward hydrokrinone free pigment solutions, driven by both
safety considerations and the need for long term maintenance right
something sustainable, and Sispara has emerged as one of those
standout products with cysteami as its star ingredient, which really
offers results without the limitation of those traditional bleaching agents.

(31:06):
And of course you know this better than anyone else.
But the recent clinical studies show meaningful improvement in stubborn
pigmentation with consistent use overall and over several weeks, of course,
and it's another one of those companies that we say
clinically research, clinically verified. So where does the Sparra fit
within a comprehensive pigmentation protocol, whether as a standalone formulation

(31:28):
or as a compliment to in office procedure. Break it
down for me.

Speaker 8 (31:31):
Yeah, as you alluded to, you know, hydroquinones are bleaching agents.
They've been around for almost forty years already, but they
have their own issues. There are some concerns about them.
They tend not to want to be used in Europe.
Often they're combined with topical cortizons those can thin the skin.
They're combined with topical retin a like products, which can
irritate the skin, and the last thing you want to
do with molasm is irritate the skin. So oncome cissiamine.

(31:54):
That's what suspha is all about. And in fact, it's
not only just cystiamine. That's since the spare, it's also isopianic.
Gay mind, they are both agents that can lessen pigmentation
without using hydrocanons, without using retine, without using steroids, and
sometimes we combine with laser technology. We can talk about
that a little bit, and sometimes we use them alone.

(32:14):
But in both situations, to spare with those two products
is safe. In patients with malasma, it can help to
lessen pigment.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Mild beautifully said like a stute professor would deliver. And
I love that you emphasize synergy rather than replacement because
it really reinforces that true lasting results come from a
balanced approach, right because those two ingredients are key right
there now, the treatments like chemical peels and lasers and
energy devices can deliver without a doubt tremendous results, but

(32:44):
they're also only as safe as the provider holding the device.
Right now, with today's aesthetic technologies, doctor Goldberg being more
advanced and accessible than ever, what should patients look for
when selecting an experienced physician.

Speaker 8 (32:58):
So, the way we approach malasma from a perspective is
to use a laser that lessens pigment but doesn't create
any wound. You cannot have inflammation, you cannot have a wound,
or you make things worse. So we tend to use
lasers they're known as YAG lasers, which don't produce any
wound at all, and then we often combine that with
what's known as a red level red bow level light
source or an LED source, which suppresses inflammation. The goal

(33:21):
of malasma is to lessen the pigment and stop inflammation.
And when you do those together and you combine them
with suspera, oh my god, the results are terrific and frankly,
it can be done at any time of year. The
problem you run into, as you alluded to, is when
it's not physician supervised, you know, and that doesn't mean
they're on pas and nps that aren't great at this
there are many that are I run a meeting who

(33:42):
trains them. But when you have a situation where these
people are not supervised, and often they're using what are
known as IPLs in tense pulse lights. They're the cheapest
light based device. Many spots have them. Those devices notoriously
burn patients with malasma. They create more hyperpiglication and the
legal side of these I see those complications all the time.

(34:02):
So a YAG laser plus low level light combined with
s spara, you're not going to run its problems and
you're going to make malassma better.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Boom. There you go. That's an empowering checklist, empowering guidance
right there. And when you break it down like that,
it can truly save patients from irreversible complications.

Speaker 8 (34:21):
No doubt, a lot of happiness is prevented.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
There you go. And of course, even with the best precautions,
complications can occasionally occur. Right, So, post inflammatory hyperpigmentation, like
you said earlier, PIH is particularly common in darker skin tones,
where melanocytes are more reactive to heat or trauma. So
what matters most is how quickly and responsibly it's managed. Right,

(34:45):
But when complications like PIH do arise, What are the
most effective and responsible next steps a physician should take
to manage and treat those issues.

Speaker 8 (34:55):
So you allude to PIH that's supposed in thumptory hyperpigmentation,
and of course ideally that should and occur, but you're right,
it can occur no matter who does something. That's where
SISPA is terrific. If you're concerned about that kind of problem,
that PIH, that hypeer invitation, Oh my gosh, you know,
put someone on sispera immediately in a lesson that from happening.
The other part with milasma also is you know, in

(35:16):
addition to sispera is malasma is always worse than by
sun exposure. And so you can do all you want
and make people better with sispera and with any lasers.
And then if they sit out and you know they're
in Florida, they're on the West coast, on the beaches,
in California, they're on the Jersey Shore. If they sit
out there in the summer and they don't wear their sunscreens, boom,
it's all coming right back. And so sunscreens and subspa

(35:37):
are the long term maintenance lasers are the way to
get them better quicker.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Well, there you go, Doctor Goldberg. Thank you for sharing
your wisdom with us today, and truly you're my expert
on the microphone. You're my go to I text you
every time I need you.

Speaker 8 (35:51):
Happy Holidays and.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
For everyone listening. You can learn more about his work
and schedule a consultation by visiting Schwegerderm dot com and
you can follow him directly on the ground at doctor
David Goldberg. And of course, today's Better Brighter Youth segment
is brought to you by Sispera, the Science backsystem trusted
worldwide for pigment correction. To explore their full formulation and
educational resources, you can go directly on their website at

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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area. You're listening to a
Moment of Zen right here on seven to ten WAR,
the Voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zenzam's
today's We Plate Forward Foundation segment goes to the heart
of why this platform exists to amplify voices and missions
that can literally save lives. We're talking about childhood dementia,

(37:28):
medically known as San Filippo syndrome, often referred to as
childhood Alzheimer's. Here's what listeners need to know. San Filipo
affects an estimated one in seventy thousand births. It's a
progressive neurodegenerative disorder caused by a missing enzyme that prevents
the brain from breaking down certain sugars. Now, this build
up leads to severe brain damage, regression, loss of speech,

(37:50):
loss of mobility, and ultimately a fatal outcome. Most children
don't survive into their teen years. There is no cure,
There is no FDA approved treatment just yet. But here
is the part that matters today right now. Childhood dementia
is fatal, but hope is very real, and that hope
exists because of parents who refuse to accept there's nothing

(38:12):
we can do. Two of those extraordinary parents and global
leaders in this space are here with us right now.
Glen O'Neill, father of Eliza and President of the Cure
San Filippo Foundation, and doctor Kara O'Neill. She's a pediatrician,
chief science officer, and fierce advocate for families affected by
childhood dementia. In twenty thirteen, their daughter Eliza was diagnosed

(38:33):
at age three. Instead of collapsing, they mobilized, and since then,
the Cure San Filippo Foundation has helped fund over sixty
research projects around the world, three clinical trials, treatment access
for more than seventy children. Now, this conversation follows one roadmap,
the truth, the hope, and the way forward. Glen O'Neill

(38:54):
is co founder and president of Kurir san Filippo. As
I mentioned earlier, he's a father turned global advocate who
has reshaped the research landscape for childhood dementia through urgency,
community mobilization, and unwavering determination. As for Cara, while pediatrician
and Chief Science Officer, her title says it all. A
physician whose rare disease leadership is rooted in both medical

(39:15):
expertise and lived experience. She collaborates with world leading researchers,
federal agencies, and clinical teams to accelerate treatment pathways for
San Filippo's syndrome. Welcome to the show, Superstars. Thank you
all right, Glenn. The diagnosis I'm going to start with you.
The diagnosis moment is something families never forget. Right with
san Filipo. It often comes after years of searching for

(39:38):
answers and then suddenly life divides into before and after.
So take us back to the day you learned Eliza
had San Filipo. What did that moment sound like and
how did you begin processing the reality of a fatal
childhood dementia.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
Right.

Speaker 9 (39:55):
Yeah, the moment we received the diagnosis about a little
over twelve years ago now was is the worst moment
of our lives. I heard the words terminal, I heard degenerative,
I heard life limiting. In the teen years, it was
just the worst. And we went outside after the appointment,

(40:15):
after the and stood by our minivan and cried. My
wife and myself just just cried. Eliza was in the
back seat of our minivan watching door the explorer, completely
unaware of the sentence and the results that we've just
been given. So it was it was a very emotional,
very very hard time. Hard to talk about still, but

(40:37):
but we know we have to talk about it to
spread this awareness. We actually called off work right away.
It was a Thursday, and we said we're going to
go to the beach and take a trip to the beach.
So that was Eliza's favorite place to go to run
in the water and be in the sand. And we
did that and it was almost as if we were
going away and we didn't really talk about it much

(40:58):
that weekend to have one more somewhat typical weekend before
having to face the reality and Eliza used to run
down the beach. She was in a very hyperactive stage
of the disease, so she would run down the beach
and just keep going, and she wouldn't turn around and
come back. And she must have been a half a
mile away, and I caught up her and was holding
her hand, and I knew we had to come back.

(41:20):
I knew we had to turn around. I didn't want
to because I knew I knew turning around meant facing
the reality of the diagnosis we've been given.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
But we did.

Speaker 9 (41:31):
And when we got back, my wife and I talked
it over and we immediately said and agree together, we're
going to fight this in any way we can. And
it was just a couple short months after that that
we decided to create Kira san Felipa Foundation.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Well, Glenn, I mean your willingness to revisit that moment
helps listeners understand not just the diagnoses, but the emotional
magnitude families are hit with. So thank you for your vulnerability.
It does not go unnoticed. Cara. The term childhood dementia
shifts perception instantly because we now understand san filipo is
a form of rapid early neurodegeneration. Right, So from both

(42:10):
a physician's perspective and a mother's perspective, can you explain
what san filipo childhood dementia actually does to a child's
brain and body.

Speaker 7 (42:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (42:20):
Yeah, And it's called this because, like you said, there
is this progressive, relentless degeneration that happens, and in the
case of san Felipo, it actually affects every cell in
the body. But what we see is that some of
the most severe effects really happen in those sensitive cells
of the brain. And children appear healthy at birth really,

(42:42):
but because they are missing a key enzyme, over time,
toxic amounts of something called heperin sulfate build up in
the cells, causing more and more damage. And hepron sulfate
is interesting because actually it plays a key role in
early childhood neurodevelopment and how brain cells communicate throughout the lifetime.
So it's really an important kind of molecule to have

(43:05):
in a proper balance. But you know, kind of in reality,
what do doctors see, what do parents see happening in
the kiddos, and it is they begin to have some
developmental delays, usually in those early toddler years. Preschool ages,
particularly around milestones with speech and communication. That's one of
the earliest signs developmentally, they'll reach their peak cognition kind

(43:29):
of right before or around kindergarten age in learning physical abilities,
and then you see this progressive, relentless loss of the
skills that they've learned, even the ability to talk, walk, swallow. Commonly,
we also see things like very intense behaviors, a diagnosis
of autism, hearing loss, severe sleep problems that go along

(43:52):
with San Filipo, And you know, as a mom, it
just it feels like there couldn't be anything worse, and
you imagine what their life's going to be like, and
yet you see bit by bit pieces of your child
being stolen away, and it is probably hard to express
kind of how painstaking that is, but I can only
imagine what our kids are facing. Like it's bad for us,

(44:14):
but the suffering that our kids undergo through this process
is something that doesn't need to happen. You know, we
have scientific advances and we need we need.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
To take action on them.

Speaker 10 (44:27):
And that's why finding treatments and advancing research is so
important and urgent, so.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Important, and behind the science and statistics is the day
to day reality. Families live inside therapies, regressions, fatigue, and
moments of profound resilience. So I really I think that
it ties into the bigger picture. And so this brings
me full circle to you, Glenn. I mean, behind the

(44:55):
science and the statistics that we just talked about, let's
go to that day a day emotional and physical reality
of raising a child with a progressive condition. How do
you find strength on the hardest days.

Speaker 9 (45:08):
Yeah, it's it's not easy some days, you know, after
you get this diagnosis, you want to kind of you know,
pull the covers over your head and hide in the
closet and and and cry, and which there's a lot
of that. But but at the same time you realize
you have to pull yourself up and and live and
live again, and maybe in a different way. And certainly

(45:30):
there's been physical and emotional challenges. The physical, you know,
as as Eliza gets bigger. She our daughter sixteen.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Now, she requires a lot of help.

Speaker 9 (45:39):
With day to day activity, so that has been more
difficult as she's gotten bigger. But I think comparing the two,
the emotional is by heart far the harder part of
dealing with San Felipo from a parent perspective, you know,
finding the strength to get through has really changed for
me over the past twelve years. I think one of

(46:01):
the struggles that I had was I would constantly, and
it's kind of normal, think about the past and the
things she used to be able to do when she
could talk, when she could sing, and she no longer
does those things, unfortunately, and I used to dwell on them,
probably a little too much, or then let your mind
drift to the future, where all the terrible things that
could happen in the future with this disease progression. And

(46:23):
I really kind of got away from that and realized,
I feel like I'm missing this beautiful, wonderful child that's
right in front of me within the present moment. So
it's provided me strength along the way to kind of
change that type of thinking and to stay in the
present moment. And as well as honestly knowing that there's
so many supporters for this cure San Felipo mission for
these children around the world, I draw on strength for them.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
Also.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Thank you for saying that, because you're that explanation along
with Caro, what you just you know, frame the science
of it all is important because It gives families a
framework for understanding both the science and the urgency of
advancing research and really putting the funds to finding the
cure now Carat despite the fatal prognosis, there is scientific progress.

(47:10):
That's what I'm banking on, real breakthroughs, real hope back
by measurable advancements, and they're there. They are there, So
I almost don't like the fatal prognosis. That's not although
the research and the literature leads up to that kind
of vocabulary. I would like to reframe it. And despite
this fatal prognosis, you've helped feel meaningful scientific progress, and

(47:35):
that's what we're going to focus on. So what breakthroughs
give you the most hope right now?

Speaker 10 (47:40):
There's more hope in sapeleiba research today than there ever
has been. One that gives a lot of optimism is
progress in gene therapy and other approaches that target the
root cause of the disease, really replacing the missing enzyme
or allowing the body to make the missing enzyme. And
there are two there's a gene therapy and another enzyme

(48:00):
replacement therapy that are in late stages of development drug development,
and that we're hoping the FDA will be reviewing over
this next year, and hoping the FDA will really review
these in an urgent manner and with a lot of
flexibility given the devastating condition. And we're proud that Custan
Felipo donors actually were instrumental in helping to get that

(48:23):
one of those gene therapies off the ground, and so
we're proud to see how that's making an impact. The
Foundation is also funding some work by really amazing, brilliant scientists.
You're testing these new strategies around second generation gene therapies
with enhanced brain delivery and better safety profiles, and an

(48:45):
exciting new way to deliver gene therapy that actually is
totally non invasive and could be taken as a pill
or liquid. There are so many things, but those are
just a few that give me real hope that we
are closing in on some real active strategies and treatments
for our kids now.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Glenn Action is really the heart of what we're talking about,
and listeners want to help, They want direction, they want impact.
For thousands listening who want to help, what actions make
the most immediate and meaningful impact for children fighting childhood
dementia right now.

Speaker 9 (49:16):
Yeah, So there's several ways that people can can help
and make immediate impact. First is supporting the research, as
we kind of talked about, and you know, san felipe
research is severely underfunded. Every donation, large or small helps
move these promising therapies from the lab into clinical trials
and into children then for hopeful treatment. The second, as
we also talked about, is awareness. You know, if you

(49:38):
don't know that about this at all, you don't even
know what to fight. So simply sharing a child's story
with san Felipo syndrome, hearing this segment and telling your
neighbor about it the visibility for these families that you
know sometimes can feel isolated. Basically, we urgently need these
stories to be shared. And third is you know, standing

(49:59):
if you know a fan only with san Felipo or
with childhood dementia and with really any special needs, it's
understanding and standing with them and understanding that they're carrying
a severe emotional strain, and whether it's supporting through volunteering
or just giving them a call and saying how's things going. Again,

(50:22):
it can be very isolating this life and to know
to know that others are caring about you and checking in.
That means means the world. And you know, whether it's
a whole community or one one person that decides to
act on this, it can. It can make a big
difference for a family when people when people show up.
The last thing a family wants is when when people

(50:44):
don't talk and they get quiet and you don't hear
from them any longer. That that cuts deep.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Thank you for that. That's clear, actionable and empowering, exactly
what people need when their hearts are activated. If you will,
thank you so much for coming on. I believe that
it's just a matter of turning this corner two three
years and if we can all just hang in there,
the cure is there. And once it's there, I mean,
this remaps everything, and I truly think that we're right,

(51:11):
we're about to have that remap. So thank you so
much for coming on. But I've learned so much today.

Speaker 9 (51:17):
Absolutely, thank you so much for having us, and thank
you for the platform and sharing this. This means the
world does, so thank you.

Speaker 11 (51:23):
And if this conversation moved you, if you believe and
no child should lose their future before it begins, and
if you want to be part of the solution, you
should visit Cure Sanfilipofoundation dot org.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Check them out on the gram at Cure San Filipo
fn D and you can donate, you can share, you
can advocate because awareness, my friends, fuels research and research
saves lives. You're listening to a moment of Zen right
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