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Segment, brought to you by Co two Lift, we're exploring
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zones are beauty aisles and TikTok, putting your child at
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under thirteen year olds. Our experts on the mic include
trailblazer and co founder of CO two Lift Lanaker, and
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York City double Board certified facial plastic surgeon and the
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I'm your host, Zenzam's welcome back to the Going Deep segment,
brought to you by CO two Lift the medical grade
skincare technology that helps your skin breathe without breaking it down. Today,
we're exploring a trend that's gone from playful to quite
frankly problematic and may now require a legal response. We're
diving into skincare hazard zones are beauty aisles and TikTok
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putting your child at risk. And this is more than
a cultural critique, It's now a matter of public policy.
California lawmakers have introduced Assembly Bill two four nine to one,
widely known as the Sephora Kids Bill after a viral
CBS headline. The bill proposes to restrict how active ingredient
skincare is marketed to children under thirteen years old. That
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includes ingredients like retinol, celsilic acid, glycolic acid, and even
vitamin C potent actives designed to target aging, acne and
hyperpigmentation in adults. This comes in response to a surge
in preteen skincare obsession, and according to Common Sense Media,
fifty eight percent of kids under thirteen are using multi
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step skincare routines, and mckensey reports that gen Alpha is
now driving five hundred million dollars in beauty related spending
each year. But dermatologists and pediatricians are waving red flags,
citing premature barrier damage, ingredient overload, and risky anxiety around
self image. So where do we draw the line between
self care and self sabotage? While to help us navigate
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this crucial moment, our two respected voices shaping the future
of ethical beauty. Line Occur is the founder of Lumisk
Skincare and visionary behind co two lift dot com. She's
redefining skincare through regenerative science, not trendy confusion. Her brand
is trusted both by clinics and consumers, and she's here
to offer clarity, not fear. Doctor Masut Simon is a
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double board certified facial plastic surgeon and the force behind
at Simon Plastic Surgery. He trends extremely well on social media.
He's also known as the rhino plastic Guy. Doctor Simon's
practice is rooted in harmony, ethics, and surgical excellence.
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He's also a father of three daughters and a fierce.
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Advocate for protecting youth from aesthetic harm disguised as yes
self care. Now let's go deep and help parents, brands,
and young minds find a healthier path forward. Welcome to
the show Superstars. Is theen great to be here, so excited.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
To have you back, Lana. Welcome, Doctor Simon.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Excited to be here.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
All right, Lana, let's chat between skincare Surge. So you've
built a brand rooted in science and skin health. What's
your take on this sudden explosion of preteens layering adult
great actives and how do parents need to understand? More importantly,
what do parents need to understand about the biological risks?
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Yeah, it's kind of scaryes and what's happening today Because
those products which you mentioned are those ingredients retinols, you know,
Ha's alpha hydroxies, those are meant for more mature skin,
so you know, when they're used by younger people, it
can create damages to the skin barrier, increase sensitivity, it
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can even provide you know, long term damage to the skin.
So parents really need to walk through that path in
a very different way. They need to think about protection
rather than correction.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I love that, so doctor salmon. Let's chat.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
When filters shape surgery, So you're seeing the long term
results in your practice. How has this early exposure to
filtered aesthetics and skincare routines affected what young adults expect
from their faces and from surgeons like yourself.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Well, we're now seeing more and more young adults or
even before that, twains and teens that come in requesting
to look like a particular filter or a particular celebrity,
kind of signaling that they're no longer happy with how
they look with their self image, which then explains why
there's so much depression and anxiety in this age group.
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I see it every day, and we have to turn
down more patients than we accept simply because the requests
are unrealistic. They come from the wrong place. Look, the
entire industry of plastic surgery should be, and for a
long time has been, based on ethical plastic surgery. And
if we now try to accept requests that are based
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on things that are not achievable, then we've lost our minds.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, that's a sobering reality check. We're not just dealing
with surface damage, We're dealing with distorted expectations baked in
by age fifteen. It's really really unsettling as a parent
to watch this unfold. And I'm sure for you on
the receiving end, who's getting all of these requests. As
a father, it's probably making your blood boil.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Absolutely. Look, what's happening is that patients are after these
perfect symmetries that are not attainable. They want absolute glass skin.
Nature disagrees. There's hormonal changes. There's changes that skin is
naturally supposed to go through. When the hormones hit, you're
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supposed to produce more sebum, which then protects your skin
during that time. To for example, expose a child's skin,
which has a very thin stratum coranium, the superficial layer
of that skin, to glycolic acids, for example, would have
an extremely drying effect because they don't produce as much
sebum as a twenty year old. So there is a
lot of nuances that we need to talk about. And
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I know these days we as parents really want to
be best friends with our kids, and I get that
it's very difficult as a father too, but sometimes we
just need to step it up and parents.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yep, yep, all right, Lana, let's get practical a little
bit of a breakdown from parents here. For parents walking
through the mainstream beauty stores, what ingredients should they steer
their kid away from entirely and what are some more
safe supportive alternatives.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Definitely the retinals, the AHA's like the glycolic acid that
was just mentioned, lactic acid, the salicylic acid, even strong
ingredients for acne, they should unless it's prescribed by their dermatologists.
That's not what they want to be looking at right now. Again,
we talk about protection, so think of a parent should
think more of, you know, gentle cleansers. They should think
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about sunscreen protection, mineral sunscreen based protection. They should think
about hydration. I like the cetophils, they're mild, so think mild,
think think on the safe. Those are the things that
a parent wants to to to buy.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
For their their children.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Yeah, that's great, points doctor someone anything you want to
add in that.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Well, I completely agree. We need to stick to not
talk about prevention so much because there's nothing happening there. Protection.
Just like it was mentioned earlier, we need to protect
and you need a moisturizer, a basic gentle moisturizer, you
need sunscreen, you need hydrated skin, and then the rest
of it comes down to go out and play, go
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meet people, go have fun, and let kids be kids.
And beyond that, let's not introduce adult insecurities in children
who don't need to be insecure about their skin. I mean,
we all want to look good. We know this is
thousands and thousands of years of humanity. Whether it was
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piercings or tattoos or whatever it was, there was some
effort we made always to look good. But to introduce
that at such a young age, I think it's just unethical.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Agreed.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Now, let's chat the medical view on the bill. So
California's proposed bill is a major move, but.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
It also has critics.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
So from your perspective, doctor, someone does restricting skincare marketing
to kids makes sense?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
And where should regulation begin and end?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Well?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
I think yes, it's a nice starting point, but I
think parenting matters more because who's to say that the
mom's not going to give in to the pressure, And
that pressure is real. Trust me, I have three daughters
and I deal with that every day and I'm trying.
I'm figuring it out all myself and far from having
figured it out, but the pressure is real, and they
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don't want to be isolated and as kids being banished,
being isolated.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Is social death.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
And so they want what their friend or their influencer,
kid influencers said they should get. So if we introduce
the law, it's a nice starting point, but what's to
say that the parent won't buy it for them anyway?
I think the most important thing is to empower parents
to step up and parents, it's like the.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Cell phone band absolutely ridiculous, or the social media ban, Like,
who's actually enforcing this stuff?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Now that's a grounded response.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
It's not about panic, it's about boundaries and protecting young
minds before they become adult. Patience is extremely critical. Now, Alana,
your brand educates versus markets, so it's trusted by doctors
around the world, clinically researched, clinically verified, trusted by consumers
alike pre and post surgery. How do you continue to
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grow while making sure you're educating, not exploiting, young consumers
in this influencer heavy climate.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Well thanks for that, Zen, I think you know, as
you mentioned, you know our brand really is grounded by science,
but most importantly safety, And you said the right thing
is education. Education is necessary for people to understand what
to use on their skin. And every phase of life
has different challenges that we need to address, and skin
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has challenges depending on your age. So I think it's
about education. I know that in our brand, we really
are about addressing the fundamental skin health. So hydration is
a big factor for us, and so our Co two
left product is something that we're at every age. I
mean a lot of dermatologists recommended for very young children,
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whereas our moose which has retinals and all these actives,
it's not something that I would promote to a young teenager.
So it's about education, and as was mentioned by doctor SimAnt,
it's about empowerment through education.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yes, And you're also not misleading, right because your packaging
is not fruity and bubbly and misleading and geared towards
a child. Right, that instant gratification of all of the
things that graphically speak to them. And these brands are
guilty of that. They're saying, we're not marketing to kids,
and we have all these you know, retinals and acids
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in our ingredients, and yet we have these fruity, bubbly,
cute packages that are one hundred percent marketed to kids.
So they are complicit and I think it does begin
with integrity behind the brand's CEO. And so I take
my hat off to you because you keep your packaging
marketed to a very specific demographic, not insinuating that this
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should be used by anyone other than the demographic that
it clinically should.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Be used by and verified by.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
So, yeah, it comes full circle now, doctor Simon, speaking
to your daughters. You've said before that being a surgeon
is only part of your job. Being a father is
what keeps you centered. How do you talk to your
daughters about beauty and confidence in the noise online?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
It's hard. It's the hardest job I've ever had. It's
much harder than any surgery I performed.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
That.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
It's for sure. I have three daughters and they're all
in different phases. One is ten, one is eight, the
other's five. But the ten year old and the eight
year old, for sure keep me on my toes. And
you know, we try to stay honest. We try to
have conversations. I try to model the behavior that you
are worthy and you are accepted, regardless of how your
skin shines today or what product you're using today. We
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try to keep them grounded and realize that self worth
comes from within and not just the reflection on this
ever scrolling window and mirror that will always tell you
you're not pretty enough. We keep them away from social media.
We try to keep them away from these kinds of influences,
but it's really really hard. And those parents your listeners
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right now might be listening to me and saying that
on the one hand that their children are never on
the screens, or on the other hand, that they let
them use screens all the time. We need to strike
a balance. We need to figure out what works. But
one thing is for sure. This anxiety that this generation
is experiencing has to do with the fact that they're
always being presented with something that they feel if they
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don't have it, they're left out, and they're left out
of social circles. The ethics of this lies not only
with the parents, with me, with other parents, with my
wife and all fathers and mothers, but also with the CEOs,
also with the society at large, with the government to
some extent, with the stores that carry these products, with
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social media companies. All of us have lost our minds.
We need to just come back to realize that children
need to be on their bikes and go and have
a smoothie.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, n Alanna safe picks for the curious tweens.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
So, if a tween insists on buying something from the
beauty aisle, what categories or types you mentioned it earlier?
Do you have like a specific brand that you love
or certain categories or types of products you feel comfortable
recommending that won't harm your skin?
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Again, you know you're talking about for young girls, and
I don't have any daughters, but for my nieces they like,
you know, I would get botanical masks, yes, you know
something like that. I mean, you know, we talk about sunscreen,
we talk about light oystrises. Again, I'm not that type
of shopper, but I know like laroche Pose, they have
a nice line that has safe things for young people,
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young girls, young boys. You know, even though I'm a
boy mom and my kids are older now, I was
really introducing them to skincare and taking care of their
skin from there were nine and ten. So but again
it's about skin health, which is very different from the
fads and the craze that you're going to see on TikTok,
which wasn't herron when they were younger.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And the message needs to be on mirrors,
phones and in every household that like, you know, you
truly have to look within. You can't just yeah, compare
yourself to what you see on social media. Right, it's
truly at a tipping point.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Now.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
If you could erase the top three myths younger patients
believe about beauty, what would they be? And how can
we help parents reframe those ideas at home?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Good questions? Then I think the number one myth that
I see is that patients are in search of perfect symmetry.
There is no such thing. There's no human, animal, leaf, mountain,
or anything that is perfectly symmetric. And we have just
found this obsession with perfect symmetry. And a lot of
it is because a lot of the assets online are
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digitally manipulated. They are made to represent that. In fact,
just a few years ago, I started an artistic social,
artistic project called face by Face New York where we met.
Myself and my team would go to Central Park and
we would photograph thousands of individuals and they would tell
us a little bit about their background, and we published
this and we look and where are these tens? Where
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are these bombshells we see on social media? They do
not exist. Yeah, and our children just think that. You know,
everybody's doing something, maybe it's this this product, or this
nose clip or this thing that pulls the hair or whatever.
I assure you most others are also just like you,
just scrolling along. Nobody's doing anything. Stop falling for these things.
Live your life, take it easy. I don't know if
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it was three, but I think that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
No, we need more surgeons who reshape minds as well
as faces. So thank you, No, Alana. What's new at
SOEO two Lift? Your product line continues to evolve. What
new launches or breakthroughs are you most excited about? And
where is SOO two Lift expanding next?
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Well, you know, we're coming up with a new vitamin
C not for not for your daughters yet, but I
love it. It's it's really going to be. It's a
top grade. There's no Walton included in there. But our
focus still is on the car boxy. You know, that's
something that can be used really through any age. I'm
really excited about what's happening internationally for us, what's happening
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post surgically for us. One of our biggest focus right
now is really helping surgeons and we're quickly becoming the
goal standard in post care in that in that arena,
but it requires a lot of education. I foresee for
the next three to five years, that's really our focus
on educating and then also in the women's health, you know,
in terms of intimacy, that's still a big passion project
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for me that women recognize that, you know, aging is
more than what we see on our face and our neck.
It affects our intimate skin, it affects our quality of life.
And so that's still a big part of what we're
doing in educating women in that area and show what
are the solutions that they can do to feel good
in their skin, regardless of their age.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Now, doctor salmon surgery, what's what's advancing and face facial surgery?
So in your world technology.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Moves so fast.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Are there any are there any innovations in rhinoplasty or
even facial surgery that are improving outcomes and really truly
reshaping your field.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
When I first started facial plastic surgery, I was doing
it all. I was doing cancer surgery, reconstructive surgery, trauma surgery,
and aesthetic surgery. Very quickly I realized to be able
to stay at the forefront of all of this. I
had to bring it down to a few things that
it was excellent at and just lego of the other ones,
and that was rhinoplasty and face left surgery, facial rejuvenation
in general. In our world now things are different. I
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have to say you that most of our patients, despite
this conversation, are completely grounded, normal individuals who are very
happy with themselves, successful individuals who just have a little
hump they want to remove, or they have a little
bit of sign of jowling that they want to improve.
And we do the surgery now based on the advances
in technology and advances and techniques and our own artistic
understanding of the face and beauty that's very very important.
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We now get better results than we ever have. Was
one of the first surgeons in the United States to
bring ultrasonic rhinoplasty to this country. I learned the methods
in Europe, in France from one of the pioneers, and
it allows us to no longer break the bones, to
have the downtime to be much more precise. Now, if
you imagine that window we have over there, I can
throw a rock into it and break that glass, which
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is the old school rhinoplasty, or I can use a
glass cutter to precisely shape that glass, and the outcomes
are not the same, and that allows for just a
much more precise outcome, much more better results. Same with facelifting.
We do deep plane facelift surgery. Now different types, different approaches.
The artistic vision of the surgeon is what matters. We
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are so focused on technique oftentimes that we forget that
the operator matters too. If you buy a pair of scissors,
I promise YOURU that the hairstylists with that same scissors
can do one thing, and other hair stylists will do
another thing. So it comes down to the artistic vision,
to the technology, and to the technique, all three combined together.
My practice were laser focused on rhinoplasty and and facial
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plastics or facial rejuvenation. Rather, so you do something over
and over and over. I used this suture, I did this,
I use this technique.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
It did this.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
You look at it self critically and you'll come down
to Okay, now I need to improve that. I need
to improve that as opposed to you know, here and
there doing rhinoplasty and overtime just repeating the same thing
over and over, we evolve as opposed to repeat.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Oh that was fascinating.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
It's a beautiful reminder that true aesthetic work is both
an art and a science and when done right, it
uplifts the whole person.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
So kudos to that.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
While we are officially out of time, thank you both
so much for coming on today. It was I've learned
so much and a lot of transparency and insights in
this conversation, and of course, educating moms and dads out
there about what's say further kiddos is extremely important to
me as a host, so thank you so much for helping.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Me do that today.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Thank you, Zen, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
To explore skincare rooted in science and self respect, visit
co two lift dot com and font and definitely follow
Latta at the and occur on social media and at
CO two lift.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
And to learn more about.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Doctor Masutaman, you could approach the ethical bespoke facial surgery
now with pride by following him on Instagram, at Simon
Plastic Surgery or at semonmd dot com. That was the
Going Deep segment brought to you by Co two Lift.
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truly lives at the intersection of grit race and groundbreaking representation.
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At the heart of it is a new film in
production called The Thrift Store. It's a tender story of resilience,
young love, and hope set against the gritty backdrop of
the nineteen thirties dust bowl.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
But what makes this film.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Especially noteworthy is its leading cast member, Abigail Adams. She's
a model, a triathlete, and an actress who happens to
have down syndrome. We're joined today by the film's revolutionary
director Surich Cedric Pereira, Abigail herself, also known to her
one and a half billion followers as Abigail the Advocate
all over social media and her devoted father who has
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stood beside her every step of the way. Today we're
chatting from diagnoses to dust Bowl Star, how Abigail Adams
is redefining disability on the silver screen. But first, let's
begin with the man who first imagined this story and
knew it had to be told. Okay, Surich Sedgric Pereira
is the director. He's a Toronto based filmmaker, an animal advocate,
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and an entrepreneur. He's known from blending empathy and aesthetics
and his storytelling. A longtime supporter of global film festivals
and humanitarian causes, He's passionate about creating films that reflect dignity, perseverance,
and underrepresentative perspectives.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Welcome to the show, Superstars.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Oh yeah, we're so glad to be here.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yes we are, Welcome back, Abigail. All right, sirach, let's
get to it.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
So the dust Bowl era was one of America's most
horroring environmental and emotional collapses, and yet you found.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
A story of hope buried in that despair.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
So what inspired the thrift store and what made Abigail
the right person to carry the story on screen?
Speaker 10 (28:39):
I discovered one evening when I was at a film
festival last year, a bunch of photographs by a fellow
named Arthur Rothstein, who was hired by a ministry or
a government at the time in Cimarron County in Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
To take pictures of the devastation.
Speaker 10 (28:55):
And there's a very iconic image which is him, you know,
taking picture of a family, young family, a father, a son,
and a younger son behind him, and they're kind of
leaning into the wind in front of their home that's
covered with sand, and I just I imagined a fictionalized account
of what that conversation was. So it's a real image,
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and I licensed a bunch of images from the Rothstein
Foundation and some historic video and decided that there's a
really good story here, which is, you know, fictionalized, but
it has this true element to it. Amongst this devastation.
I imagined this boy's trying to convince his father's irrationally
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and improbably to let him spend some money that he
has on a gift for a sweetie that he's got
in his class. And it's more complicated than that, but
that's essentially how it happened. And I've been following Abigail
for a couple of years on a couple of social
media programs, and I talked to Steve last night about,
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you know, looking through the window where you know I'm
She doesn't know who I am, but I'm looking through
the window at her and and seeing this wonderful person
with all this capability. And so I wrote it. I
decided to write a part to depict a person with
a disability as being the enabler, not the enabled, and so,
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and I didn't want it to be contrived. So I
worked hard at that at the at the dialogue there,
and went back and forth with Steve to to make
sure that it wasn't, you know, something that was you know,
artificial to the condition, and it had to be realistically
written and within the capacity. And he came back with
all this warrant that you know what, you've written something
really very touching and it really does fit her personality.
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So I knew right away that she was the person
we wanted.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Wow, that's such a poetic collision, an old photograph meeting
a new voice. And your decision to cast Abigail says
so much about where you believe the future of storytelling
is headed.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
So thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Now I'm going to pivot to the beautiful Abigail. Abigail actress, advocate, athlete.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I mean, come on, you are defining all odds, my dear.
You've completed fifteen triathlons, you walked in York Fashion Week,
you appeared in major media campaigns, and now you're starring
in a cinema, in a cinematic role that redefines disability
from the inside out.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
So abby.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
So many people still hold outdated ideas of what someone
with Down syndrome.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Canner can't do.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
You and I both know the truth, and you've shattered
every mold and even helped rewrite the film industries casting playbook.
How did it feel to get the call from Suri
for this movie and what excites you most about playing
a character who isn't defined by her disability.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I love this role.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
I wanted to be an actress I was sixteen. What
I really love is the chance to play the role
of a person who is kind and helped, helpful. The
fact that she has Down doesn't affect a plot, So
it is an opportunity to show that people with disabilities
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are more alike than different. My character is not a
person with a disability who happens to do something good.
She is a good person who happens to have a disability.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
You're giving young girls everywhere a new kind of role models.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
So I love that about you. Now, Dad, I'm gonna
pivot to you.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You're such an advocate and lifelong supporter of Abigail's.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
And the quiet force behind a lot of her accomplishments.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I mean, you've been her trainer, her champion, and her
constant believer. And it's your hands on parenting and that
unwavering belief and inclusion that have helped shape Abigail's unstoppable spirit.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
So raising a child your dad is amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Raising a child with a disability comes with a host
of unknown but you seem to always know who Abigail
could become, even before the world caught on. What were
some of the early moments where you realized she was
going to break every limitation placed on her.
Speaker 11 (33:10):
Well, when Avigail was born and she was obviously diagnosed
with Down syndrome, she had a host of other issues
that came with that she had physical and cognitive disabilities,
there was a lot of very low expectations, and I
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think more importantly than overcoming the expectations is to realize
that we should not let other people determine what the
expectations can be. And our goal is to never let
anyone's low expectations limiture success.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
And that's really been the.
Speaker 11 (33:53):
Way that my wife and I have approached this, is
that we want to know what Abigail can do heard
any times what people with down center cannot do. And
it's really a question of opportunity. Abigail is a very
determined thing. I have helped her, as have many people, teachers, coaches,
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people like yourself, offering your platform to help share this message.
These are all and of course to reach with this movie.
It's all wonderful opportunities to promote inclusion and acceptance. And
so I am amazed on a regular basis at Abigail's determination.
I mean, she comes to me. People will say to us,
why do you make her exercise? If anybody's ever had
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a daughter, they know you can't make them do anything,
and I want to do And so I can assure
you that she comes to me and says, let's exercise.
We were having a conversation just before this where if
she wants to make sure we get her run.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
In today, yes I do.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (34:56):
So it's these are the hope to portray through our
message in social media, and I'm sure that it's going
to be apparent in the movie that Shish has written
in and will be directing.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
That's the definition of vision believing before there's proof, and
you clearly poured that belief into her every single day now, Sarach.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Many films featuring.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Disabled characters tend to lean on pity or tragedy, but
in the Thrift Store, Abigail's character actually helps facilitate a romance.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
That's a big shift.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Why was it so important to you to flip the
narrative and cast someone with a disability.
Speaker 10 (35:31):
I've seen a number photo of films that have people
with disabilities in them, and going back a long time,
I've been a centophile for many years and attended a
lot of film vessels, and you watch them sort of
being the person that's being cared for and maybe you know,
in a less than a kind way, And I wanted
to just turn that into something that was completely a flip,
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which was that she without Abigail and her character, this
story doesn't happen because she enables without revealing too much
of what happens in the film, and she basically facilitates
a transaction that wouldn't happen without her involvement, and and
her involvement in the shop she's she's in the thrift
store and she's running the front of the house, which
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maybe atypical, but it's evolved naturally because mother's been cast.
She happens to be also disabled, but in a wheelchair,
and so it's evolved over time where she's which you
haven't seen, where she's kind of evolved to running it.
So I think the dialogue the perspective that I believe
that these sort of depictions now, particularly more than than
any other time.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
It's, you know, where.
Speaker 10 (36:35):
We're we're facing a lot of weird things in our
world and very sad things.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
You know.
Speaker 10 (36:39):
It was kind of a nice thing, and honestly it
was done from that perspective. It was, you know, I
think she would be the exact person I wanted, and
I went out and and made it happen through you know,
just kind of approaching and and you know, we did.
There was a you know, other options, obviously, but but
I definitely wanted that characterization. I wanted to depict her,
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and I just after watching I just thought she was
perfect and I still I believe she's going to be
completely perfect.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
And that's how real change happens, not by making the
story about disability, but by allowing people with disabilities to
simply exist as full characters. It's a very simple thing,
and Hollywood can't seem to get it right. But thank
you for doing that and paving the way for friends
like Abigail.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Abigail, Now I'm going to pivot to you.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Whether it's the Disney Parade or now a feature film,
you show up with so much heart and fearlessness, and
you always have a message for your fans. So if
there's one thing you want people to take away from
watching this film and your journey, what would it be.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
I want to inspire people with disabilities and those without disabilities.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Well that's a huge takeaway and I love that about
you because you want to inspire everybody, and that's at
the heart of it all.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You're not just you're not just acting.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
You're activating something in people. And you remind me and
I think everyone else that that determination doesn't have a limit.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
So thank you now, Steve. As parents, our.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Job is to build a life where our children feel
capable and seen.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
But with Abigail's platform growing, the world is watching now too.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Okay, what has it been like to see her evolve
from your daughter to a global advocate with like Saraich
said one and a half million followers.
Speaker 11 (38:28):
Well, it's really been awesome. You know, I'd say I
can't minimize that Abigail has been the driving you know.
My role is her parent, like all parents, is to
give our kids whatever opportunities we can, and I think
that's something particularly if you have a child with the disability.
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It's a lot of us get caught up in what
the world thinks, and we're afraid.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
We want to.
Speaker 11 (38:57):
Protect our children, and so too often parents of a
child with a disability will try to protect them and
keep them from participating because they don't want them to
be bullied, they don't want them to fail. And I
think that's they need to get away from. We need
to get away from worrying so much about what other
people think. Let's focus on the opportunities, because if you
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don't try, then you can't succeed. And this is what
is really the beauty. I've got to underline what Surich
and you both said. This movie is a story about
a girl who is a good person and she happens
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to have a disability. It's not about a person with
a disability who happens to do something good. And that's
I really asked a ton of Seiche. I think he's
typecast Abigail because she is just this is her personality
is to help people. And this is why she's instantly
able to make friends in in any situation, is because
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she is genuine and sincere, extremely friendly.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yeah, and to think it started with it, It all
started with just that one belief that she could do more.
And it's proof that belief is a superpower because you
pour that into her. And the truth is is that
she's become so much more than she can never expect.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Now, SIIs, filmmaking is more than just directing.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
It's producing, it's writing, it's casting, it's managing people.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
But for you, it's also advocacy.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
So how does your background as an animal rights supporter
and a humanitarian shape the way you tell human stories
on screen?
Speaker 10 (40:39):
I think when you grow up and you look at
the value of life and you have these things, you
watch them, it changes who you are. And I happen
to run a consulting business in Canada and I won't
go down that road at all, but you know, I've
kind of believe I've run the business that way as well.
It's with an element of humanity and kindness. It's not
you know, I believe that if you enjoy what you do,
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you you you deal with you know, with with credibility
and ethics and morality. You know what, the the prosperity
will follow you. The number number one isn't the money.
It's it's down the line in your decision process. So
I think, I, you know, when I went into this
and and trying to decide what you know, because there's
limited time when you're doing these things, you know, they
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take a lot of time, and uh, you know what
what do you want to tell?
Speaker 4 (41:28):
So?
Speaker 10 (41:28):
Is it is it something innocuous that has a you know,
uh that's a good story, or is it something that
actually has meaning and and uh and value? And you know,
I couldn't think of a better thing to do with
my time than than than this type of a project.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Now, Abigail from Sprint triathlons to brand campaigns with Nike
and Google. I mean, you've partnered with some of the
biggest names out there, but now you're you're stepping into storytelling,
which is what you've always dreamed of doing full time.
Do you see acting as as your new chapter right
now and your advocacy And if you do see it
as that new chapter, what kind of stories would you
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like to tell next or be part of?
Speaker 8 (42:08):
Yes it is, And to answer that question, it's marvel.
I wanted to expand my horizons and maybe a villain drama.
Speaker 11 (42:21):
Is definitely a part of her future.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Yes it is. Yes it is.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Your vision is magnetic and you're not just breaking ground,
you're building the stage for others to follow.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
So there's a lot of people cheering you on, Steve.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
So many families navigating disability feel isolated or just uncertain
in those early years, but your story offers them something
rare proof that thriving is in fact, very real and
very possible. So what message would you give to other
parents who make who might feel overwhelmed after a diagnosis?
Speaker 11 (42:50):
You know, would you get a diagnosis of a child
that's going to have a disability. Yet I think there
is a lot of very dark message that comes with it.
I think people in the medical field are the first
ones that you speak to, and they have often a
lot of gloom and doom. But here's my advice is
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that don't give all the cretens in the world to
the experts. They know a lot about a lot of things,
but they don't know everything about everything. So your role
as a parent is to give your child every opportunity
they can that you can for them to be successful.
That's really the point is, don't be focused on what
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other people will think. Don't be concerned about other people's opinions.
You need to push forward and know that it may
take a little bit longer, and just plan on that.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
And there's something else that you said in one of
the other interviews.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
You said community. You said community is key for you
and Abigail. I remember in one of our what you've
been on many times, but you remind me of community,
and I think that that's also something important because you
do have a huge community of friends and family and
the down syndrome community all advocating for Abigail and for
you and for others in similar situations. And having that
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ability to rely on others or to even get an
applause from others is so so meaningful.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
It's the little things that.
Speaker 11 (44:24):
You're absolutely right having the support of other people. There's
a world full of good people just waiting for an
opportunity to do something good. And if you get out
there and you show that you're trying to do something constructive,
you're trying to do something positive, people will come to
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your help, come to your aid, come and help you.
And that's not just people who have loved ones with disabilities.
That's coaches, that's teachers, that's movie directors, that's people with
wonderful podcasts. So there's a lot of good people. You
just need to let them know where they can find you.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
It was a pleasure having you both on Abigail. You're
not just a triathlete and a model and an actress.
You're a symbol of what happens when belief meets opportunity
and thanks to the creative lens of Surish Thrift Store
is going to help redefine what inclusion can look like
in cinema. So I thank you both for coming, and Steve,
thank you always for being there for her.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Thank you Zin. Thank you, thank you so much. Rava
really appreciate it. Thank you so very thank you.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
To follow Abigail's journey had to Abigail the Advocate dot
com and you can follow her all over social media TikTok, Instagram, Facebook,
and on the Gram at Abigail Underscore The Underscore Advocate.
And to learn more about the film, you can head
to surge Cedric dot com and follow the production updates
on Instagram at Surge Cedric Film. You could head directly
to his personal page at surge Cedric and remember, whether.
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I'm your host, Zenzam's welcome back to the Going Deep segment,
brought to you by CO two Lift the medical grade
skincare technology that helps your skin breathe without breaking it down. Today,
we're exploring a trend that's gone from playful to quite
frankly problematic and may now require a legal response. We're
diving into skincare hazard zones are beauty aisles and TikTok
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putting your child at risk. And this is more than
a cultural critique, It's now a matter of public policy.
California lawmakers have introduced Assembly Bill two four nine to one,
widely known as the Sephora Kids Bill after a viral
CBS headline. The bill proposes to restrict how active ingredient
skincare is marketed to children under thirteen years old. That
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includes ingredients like retinol, celsilic acid, glycolic acid, and even
vitamin C potent actives designed to target aging, acne and
hyperpigmentation in adults. This comes in response to a surge
in preteen skincare obsession, and according to Common Sense Media,
fifty eight percent of kids under thirteen are using multi
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step skincare routines, and mckensey reports that gen Alpha is
now driving five hundred million dollars in beauty related spending
each year. But dermatologists and pediatricians are waving red flags,
citing premature barrier damage, ingredient overload, and risky anxiety around
self image. So where do we draw the line between
self care and self sabotage? While to help us navigate
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this crucial moment, our two respected voices shaping the future
of ethical beauty. Line Occur is the founder of Lumisk
Skincare and visionary behind co two lift dot com. She's
redefining skincare through regenerative science, not trendy confusion. Her brand
is trusted both by clinics and consumers, and she's here
to offer clarity, not fear. Doctor Masut Simon is a
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double board certified facial plastic surgeon and the force behind
at Simon Plastic Surgery. He trends extremely well on social media.
He's also known as the rhino plastic Guy. Doctor Simon's
practice is rooted in harmony, ethics, and surgical excellence.
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He's also a father of three daughters and a fierce.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Advocate for protecting youth from aesthetic harm disguised as yes
self care. Now let's go deep and help parents, brands,
and young minds find a healthier path forward. Welcome to
the show Superstars. Is theen great to be here, so excited.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
To have you back, Lana. Welcome, Doctor Simon.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Excited to be here.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
All right, Lana, let's chat between skincare Surge. So you've
built a brand rooted in science and skin health. What's
your take on this sudden explosion of preteens layering adult
great actives and how do parents need to understand? More importantly,
what do parents need to understand about the biological risks?
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Yeah, it's kind of scaryes and what's happening today Because
those products which you mentioned are those ingredients retinols, you know,
Ha's alpha hydroxies, those are meant for more mature skin,
so you know, when they're used by younger people, it
can create damages to the skin barrier, increase sensitivity, it
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can even provide you know, long term damage to the skin.
So parents really need to walk through that path in
a very different way. They need to think about protection
rather than correction.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I love that, so doctor salmon. Let's chat.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
When filters shape surgery, So you're seeing the long term
results in your practice. How has this early exposure to
filtered aesthetics and skincare routines affected what young adults expect
from their faces and from surgeons like yourself.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Well, we're now seeing more and more young adults or
even before that, twains and teens that come in requesting
to look like a particular filter or a particular celebrity,
kind of signaling that they're no longer happy with how
they look with their self image, which then explains why
there's so much depression and anxiety in this age group.
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I see it every day, and we have to turn
down more patients than we accept simply because the requests
are unrealistic. They come from the wrong place. Look, the
entire industry of plastic surgery should be, and for a
long time has been, based on ethical plastic surgery. And
if we now try to accept requests that are based
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on things that are not achievable, then we've lost our minds.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, that's a sobering reality check. We're not just dealing
with surface damage, We're dealing with distorted expectations baked in
by age fifteen. It's really really unsettling as a parent
to watch this unfold. And I'm sure for you on
the receiving end, who's getting all of these requests. As
a father, it's probably making your blood boil.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Absolutely. Look, what's happening is that patients are after these
perfect symmetries that are not attainable. They want absolute glass skin.
Nature disagrees. There's hormonal changes. There's changes that skin is
naturally supposed to go through. When the hormones hit, you're
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supposed to produce more sebum, which then protects your skin
during that time. To for example, expose a child's skin,
which has a very thin stratum coranium, the superficial layer
of that skin, to glycolic acids, for example, would have
an extremely drying effect because they don't produce as much
sebum as a twenty year old. So there is a
lot of nuances that we need to talk about. And
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I know these days we as parents really want to
be best friends with our kids, and I get that
it's very difficult as a father too, but sometimes we
just need to step it up and parents.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yep, yep, all right, Lana, let's get practical a little
bit of a breakdown from parents here. For parents walking
through the mainstream beauty stores, what ingredients should they steer
their kid away from entirely and what are some more
safe supportive alternatives.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Definitely the retinals, the AHA's like the glycolic acid that
was just mentioned, lactic acid, the salicylic acid, even strong
ingredients for acne, they should unless it's prescribed by their dermatologists.
That's not what they want to be looking at right now. Again,
we talk about protection, so think of a parent should
think more of, you know, gentle cleansers. They should think
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about sunscreen protection, mineral sunscreen based protection. They should think
about hydration. I like the cetophils, they're mild, so think mild,
think think on the safe. Those are the things that
a parent wants to to to buy.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
For their their children.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Yeah, that's great, points doctor someone anything you want to
add in that.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Well, I completely agree. We need to stick to not
talk about prevention so much because there's nothing happening there. Protection.
Just like it was mentioned earlier, we need to protect
and you need a moisturizer, a basic gentle moisturizer, you
need sunscreen, you need hydrated skin, and then the rest
of it comes down to go out and play, go
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meet people, go have fun, and let kids be kids.
And beyond that, let's not introduce adult insecurities in children
who don't need to be insecure about their skin. I mean,
we all want to look good. We know this is
thousands and thousands of years of humanity. Whether it was
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piercings or tattoos or whatever it was, there was some
effort we made always to look good. But to introduce
that at such a young age, I think it's just unethical.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Agreed.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Now, let's chat the medical view on the bill. So
California's proposed bill is a major move, but.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
It also has critics.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
So from your perspective, doctor, someone does restricting skincare marketing
to kids makes sense?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
And where should regulation begin and end?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Well?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
I think yes, it's a nice starting point, but I
think parenting matters more because who's to say that the
mom's not going to give in to the pressure, And
that pressure is real. Trust me, I have three daughters
and I deal with that every day and I'm trying.
I'm figuring it out all myself and far from having
figured it out, but the pressure is real, and they
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don't want to be isolated and as kids being banished,
being isolated.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Is social death.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
And so they want what their friend or their influencer,
kid influencers said they should get. So if we introduce
the law, it's a nice starting point, but what's to
say that the parent won't buy it for them anyway?
I think the most important thing is to empower parents
to step up and parents, it's like the.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Cell phone band absolutely ridiculous, or the social media ban, Like,
who's actually enforcing this stuff?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Now that's a grounded response.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
It's not about panic, it's about boundaries and protecting young
minds before they become adult. Patience is extremely critical. Now, Alana,
your brand educates versus markets, so it's trusted by doctors
around the world, clinically researched, clinically verified, trusted by consumers
alike pre and post surgery. How do you continue to
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grow while making sure you're educating, not exploiting, young consumers
in this influencer heavy climate.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Well thanks for that, Zen, I think you know, as
you mentioned, you know our brand really is grounded by science,
but most importantly safety, And you said the right thing
is education. Education is necessary for people to understand what
to use on their skin. And every phase of life
has different challenges that we need to address, and skin
(13:43):
has challenges depending on your age. So I think it's
about education. I know that in our brand, we really
are about addressing the fundamental skin health. So hydration is
a big factor for us, and so our Co two
left product is something that we're at every age. I
mean a lot of dermatologists recommended for very young children,
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whereas our moose which has retinals and all these actives,
it's not something that I would promote to a young teenager.
So it's about education, and as was mentioned by doctor SimAnt,
it's about empowerment through education.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yes, And you're also not misleading, right because your packaging
is not fruity and bubbly and misleading and geared towards
a child. Right, that instant gratification of all of the
things that graphically speak to them. And these brands are
guilty of that. They're saying, we're not marketing to kids,
and we have all these you know, retinals and acids
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in our ingredients, and yet we have these fruity, bubbly,
cute packages that are one hundred percent marketed to kids.
So they are complicit and I think it does begin
with integrity behind the brand's CEO. And so I take
my hat off to you because you keep your packaging
marketed to a very specific demographic, not insinuating that this
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should be used by anyone other than the demographic that
it clinically should.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Be used by and verified by.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
So, yeah, it comes full circle now, doctor Simon, speaking
to your daughters. You've said before that being a surgeon
is only part of your job. Being a father is
what keeps you centered. How do you talk to your
daughters about beauty and confidence in the noise online?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
It's hard. It's the hardest job I've ever had. It's
much harder than any surgery I performed.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
That.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
It's for sure. I have three daughters and they're all
in different phases. One is ten, one is eight, the
other's five. But the ten year old and the eight
year old, for sure keep me on my toes. And
you know, we try to stay honest. We try to
have conversations. I try to model the behavior that you
are worthy and you are accepted, regardless of how your
skin shines today or what product you're using today. We
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try to keep them grounded and realize that self worth
comes from within and not just the reflection on this
ever scrolling window and mirror that will always tell you
you're not pretty enough. We keep them away from social media.
We try to keep them away from these kinds of influences,
but it's really really hard. And those parents your listeners
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right now might be listening to me and saying that
on the one hand that their children are never on
the screens, or on the other hand, that they let
them use screens all the time. We need to strike
a balance. We need to figure out what works. But
one thing is for sure. This anxiety that this generation
is experiencing has to do with the fact that they're
always being presented with something that they feel if they
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don't have it, they're left out, and they're left out
of social circles. The ethics of this lies not only
with the parents, with me, with other parents, with my
wife and all fathers and mothers, but also with the CEOs,
also with the society at large, with the government to
some extent, with the stores that carry these products, with
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social media companies. All of us have lost our minds.
We need to just come back to realize that children
need to be on their bikes and go and have
a smoothie.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, n Alanna safe picks for the curious tweens.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
So, if a tween insists on buying something from the
beauty aisle, what categories or types you mentioned it earlier?
Do you have like a specific brand that you love
or certain categories or types of products you feel comfortable
recommending that won't harm your skin?
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Again, you know you're talking about for young girls, and
I don't have any daughters, but for my nieces they like,
you know, I would get botanical masks, yes, you know
something like that. I mean, you know, we talk about sunscreen,
we talk about light oystrises. Again, I'm not that type
of shopper, but I know like laroche Pose, they have
a nice line that has safe things for young people,
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young girls, young boys. You know, even though I'm a
boy mom and my kids are older now, I was
really introducing them to skincare and taking care of their
skin from there were nine and ten. So but again
it's about skin health, which is very different from the
fads and the craze that you're going to see on TikTok,
which wasn't herron when they were younger.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And the message needs to be on mirrors,
phones and in every household that like, you know, you
truly have to look within. You can't just yeah, compare
yourself to what you see on social media. Right, it's
truly at a tipping point.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Now.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
If you could erase the top three myths younger patients
believe about beauty, what would they be? And how can
we help parents reframe those ideas at home?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Good questions? Then I think the number one myth that
I see is that patients are in search of perfect symmetry.
There is no such thing. There's no human, animal, leaf, mountain,
or anything that is perfectly symmetric. And we have just
found this obsession with perfect symmetry. And a lot of
it is because a lot of the assets online are
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digitally manipulated. They are made to represent that. In fact,
just a few years ago, I started an artistic social,
artistic project called face by Face New York where we met.
Myself and my team would go to Central Park and
we would photograph thousands of individuals and they would tell
us a little bit about their background, and we published
this and we look and where are these tens? Where
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are these bombshells we see on social media? They do
not exist. Yeah, and our children just think that. You know,
everybody's doing something, maybe it's this this product, or this
nose clip or this thing that pulls the hair or whatever.
I assure you most others are also just like you,
just scrolling along. Nobody's doing anything. Stop falling for these things.
Live your life, take it easy. I don't know if
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it was three, but I think that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
No, we need more surgeons who reshape minds as well
as faces. So thank you, No, Alana. What's new at
SOEO two Lift? Your product line continues to evolve. What
new launches or breakthroughs are you most excited about? And
where is SOO two Lift expanding next?
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Well, you know, we're coming up with a new vitamin
C not for not for your daughters yet, but I
love it. It's it's really going to be. It's a
top grade. There's no Walton included in there. But our
focus still is on the car boxy. You know, that's
something that can be used really through any age. I'm
really excited about what's happening internationally for us, what's happening
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post surgically for us. One of our biggest focus right
now is really helping surgeons and we're quickly becoming the
goal standard in post care in that in that arena,
but it requires a lot of education. I foresee for
the next three to five years, that's really our focus
on educating and then also in the women's health, you know,
in terms of intimacy, that's still a big passion project
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for me that women recognize that, you know, aging is
more than what we see on our face and our neck.
It affects our intimate skin, it affects our quality of life.
And so that's still a big part of what we're
doing in educating women in that area and show what
are the solutions that they can do to feel good
in their skin, regardless of their age.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Now, doctor salmon surgery, what's what's advancing and face facial surgery?
So in your world technology.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Moves so fast.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Are there any are there any innovations in rhinoplasty or
even facial surgery that are improving outcomes and really truly
reshaping your field.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
When I first started facial plastic surgery, I was doing
it all. I was doing cancer surgery, reconstructive surgery, trauma surgery,
and aesthetic surgery. Very quickly I realized to be able
to stay at the forefront of all of this. I
had to bring it down to a few things that
it was excellent at and just lego of the other ones,
and that was rhinoplasty and face left surgery, facial rejuvenation
in general. In our world now things are different. I
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have to say you that most of our patients, despite
this conversation, are completely grounded, normal individuals who are very
happy with themselves, successful individuals who just have a little
hump they want to remove, or they have a little
bit of sign of jowling that they want to improve.
And we do the surgery now based on the advances
in technology and advances and techniques and our own artistic
understanding of the face and beauty that's very very important.
(21:59):
We now get better results than we ever have. Was
one of the first surgeons in the United States to
bring ultrasonic rhinoplasty to this country. I learned the methods
in Europe, in France from one of the pioneers, and
it allows us to no longer break the bones, to
have the downtime to be much more precise. Now, if
you imagine that window we have over there, I can
throw a rock into it and break that glass, which
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is the old school rhinoplasty, or I can use a
glass cutter to precisely shape that glass, and the outcomes
are not the same, and that allows for just a
much more precise outcome, much more better results. Same with facelifting.
We do deep plane facelift surgery. Now different types, different approaches.
The artistic vision of the surgeon is what matters. We
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are so focused on technique oftentimes that we forget that
the operator matters too. If you buy a pair of scissors,
I promise YOURU that the hairstylists with that same scissors
can do one thing, and other hair stylists will do
another thing. So it comes down to the artistic vision,
to the technology, and to the technique, all three combined together.
My practice were laser focused on rhinoplasty and and facial
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plastics or facial rejuvenation. Rather, so you do something over
and over and over. I used this suture, I did this,
I use this technique.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
It did this.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
You look at it self critically and you'll come down
to Okay, now I need to improve that. I need
to improve that as opposed to you know, here and
there doing rhinoplasty and overtime just repeating the same thing
over and over, we evolve as opposed to repeat.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Oh that was fascinating.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
It's a beautiful reminder that true aesthetic work is both
an art and a science and when done right, it
uplifts the whole person.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
So kudos to that.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
While we are officially out of time, thank you both
so much for coming on today. It was I've learned
so much and a lot of transparency and insights in
this conversation, and of course, educating moms and dads out
there about what's say further kiddos is extremely important to
me as a host, so thank you so much for helping.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Me do that today.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Thank you, Zen, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
To explore skincare rooted in science and self respect, visit
co two lift dot com and font and definitely follow
Latta at the and occur on social media and at
CO two lift.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
And to learn more about.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Doctor Masutaman, you could approach the ethical bespoke facial surgery
now with pride by following him on Instagram, at Simon
Plastic Surgery or at semonmd dot com. That was the
Going Deep segment brought to you by Co two Lift.
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Coconut hydration that gives back. Today's conversation is one that
truly lives at the intersection of grit race and groundbreaking representation.
(27:02):
At the heart of it is a new film in
production called The Thrift Store. It's a tender story of resilience,
young love, and hope set against the gritty backdrop of
the nineteen thirties dust bowl.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
But what makes this film.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Especially noteworthy is its leading cast member, Abigail Adams. She's
a model, a triathlete, and an actress who happens to
have down syndrome. We're joined today by the film's revolutionary
director Surich Cedric Pereira, Abigail herself, also known to her
one and a half billion followers as Abigail the Advocate
all over social media and her devoted father who has
(27:38):
stood beside her every step of the way. Today we're
chatting from diagnoses to dust Bowl Star, how Abigail Adams
is redefining disability on the silver screen. But first, let's
begin with the man who first imagined this story and
knew it had to be told. Okay, Surich Sedgric Pereira
is the director. He's a Toronto based filmmaker, an animal advocate,
(28:01):
and an entrepreneur. He's known from blending empathy and aesthetics
and his storytelling. A longtime supporter of global film festivals
and humanitarian causes, He's passionate about creating films that reflect dignity, perseverance,
and underrepresentative perspectives.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Welcome to the show, Superstars.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Oh yeah, we're so glad to be here.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yes we are, Welcome back, Abigail. All right, sirach, let's
get to it.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
So the dust Bowl era was one of America's most
horroring environmental and emotional collapses, and yet you found.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
A story of hope buried in that despair.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
So what inspired the thrift store and what made Abigail
the right person to carry the story on screen?
Speaker 10 (28:39):
I discovered one evening when I was at a film
festival last year, a bunch of photographs by a fellow
named Arthur Rothstein, who was hired by a ministry or
a government at the time in Cimarron County in Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
To take pictures of the devastation.
Speaker 10 (28:55):
And there's a very iconic image which is him, you know,
taking picture of a family, young family, a father, a son,
and a younger son behind him, and they're kind of
leaning into the wind in front of their home that's
covered with sand, and I just I imagined a fictionalized account
of what that conversation was. So it's a real image,
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and I licensed a bunch of images from the Rothstein
Foundation and some historic video and decided that there's a
really good story here, which is, you know, fictionalized, but
it has this true element to it. Amongst this devastation.
I imagined this boy's trying to convince his father's irrationally
(29:37):
and improbably to let him spend some money that he
has on a gift for a sweetie that he's got
in his class. And it's more complicated than that, but
that's essentially how it happened. And I've been following Abigail
for a couple of years on a couple of social
media programs, and I talked to Steve last night about,
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you know, looking through the window where you know I'm
She doesn't know who I am, but I'm looking through
the window at her and and seeing this wonderful person
with all this capability. And so I wrote it. I
decided to write a part to depict a person with
a disability as being the enabler, not the enabled, and so,
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and I didn't want it to be contrived. So I
worked hard at that at the at the dialogue there,
and went back and forth with Steve to to make
sure that it wasn't, you know, something that was you know,
artificial to the condition, and it had to be realistically
written and within the capacity. And he came back with
all this warrant that you know what, you've written something
really very touching and it really does fit her personality.
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So I knew right away that she was the person
we wanted.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Wow, that's such a poetic collision, an old photograph meeting
a new voice. And your decision to cast Abigail says
so much about where you believe the future of storytelling
is headed.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
So thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Now I'm going to pivot to the beautiful Abigail. Abigail actress, advocate, athlete.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I mean, come on, you are defining all odds, my dear.
You've completed fifteen triathlons, you walked in York Fashion Week,
you appeared in major media campaigns, and now you're starring
in a cinema, in a cinematic role that redefines disability
from the inside out.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
So abby.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
So many people still hold outdated ideas of what someone
with Down syndrome.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Canner can't do.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
You and I both know the truth, and you've shattered
every mold and even helped rewrite the film industries casting playbook.
How did it feel to get the call from Suri
for this movie and what excites you most about playing
a character who isn't defined by her disability.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I love this role.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
I wanted to be an actress I was sixteen. What
I really love is the chance to play the role
of a person who is kind and helped, helpful. The
fact that she has Down doesn't affect a plot, So
it is an opportunity to show that people with disabilities
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are more alike than different. My character is not a
person with a disability who happens to do something good.
She is a good person who happens to have a disability.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
You're giving young girls everywhere a new kind of role models.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
So I love that about you. Now, Dad, I'm gonna
pivot to you.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You're such an advocate and lifelong supporter of Abigail's.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
And the quiet force behind a lot of her accomplishments.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I mean, you've been her trainer, her champion, and her
constant believer. And it's your hands on parenting and that
unwavering belief and inclusion that have helped shape Abigail's unstoppable spirit.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
So raising a child your dad is amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Raising a child with a disability comes with a host
of unknown but you seem to always know who Abigail
could become, even before the world caught on. What were
some of the early moments where you realized she was
going to break every limitation placed on her.
Speaker 11 (33:10):
Well, when Avigail was born and she was obviously diagnosed
with Down syndrome, she had a host of other issues
that came with that she had physical and cognitive disabilities,
there was a lot of very low expectations, and I
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think more importantly than overcoming the expectations is to realize
that we should not let other people determine what the
expectations can be. And our goal is to never let
anyone's low expectations limiture success.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
And that's really been the.
Speaker 11 (33:53):
Way that my wife and I have approached this, is
that we want to know what Abigail can do heard
any times what people with down center cannot do. And
it's really a question of opportunity. Abigail is a very
determined thing. I have helped her, as have many people, teachers, coaches,
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people like yourself, offering your platform to help share this message.
These are all and of course to reach with this movie.
It's all wonderful opportunities to promote inclusion and acceptance. And
so I am amazed on a regular basis at Abigail's determination.
I mean, she comes to me. People will say to us,
why do you make her exercise? If anybody's ever had
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a daughter, they know you can't make them do anything,
and I want to do And so I can assure
you that she comes to me and says, let's exercise.
We were having a conversation just before this where if
she wants to make sure we get her run.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
In today, yes I do.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (34:56):
So it's these are the hope to portray through our
message in social media, and I'm sure that it's going
to be apparent in the movie that Shish has written
in and will be directing.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
That's the definition of vision believing before there's proof, and
you clearly poured that belief into her every single day now, Sarach.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Many films featuring.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Disabled characters tend to lean on pity or tragedy, but
in the Thrift Store, Abigail's character actually helps facilitate a romance.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
That's a big shift.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Why was it so important to you to flip the
narrative and cast someone with a disability.
Speaker 10 (35:31):
I've seen a number photo of films that have people
with disabilities in them, and going back a long time,
I've been a centophile for many years and attended a
lot of film vessels, and you watch them sort of
being the person that's being cared for and maybe you know,
in a less than a kind way, And I wanted
to just turn that into something that was completely a flip,
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which was that she without Abigail and her character, this
story doesn't happen because she enables without revealing too much
of what happens in the film, and she basically facilitates
a transaction that wouldn't happen without her involvement, and and
her involvement in the shop she's she's in the thrift
store and she's running the front of the house, which
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maybe atypical, but it's evolved naturally because mother's been cast.
She happens to be also disabled, but in a wheelchair,
and so it's evolved over time where she's which you
haven't seen, where she's kind of evolved to running it.
So I think the dialogue the perspective that I believe
that these sort of depictions now, particularly more than than
any other time.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
It's, you know, where.
Speaker 10 (36:35):
We're we're facing a lot of weird things in our
world and very sad things.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
You know.
Speaker 10 (36:39):
It was kind of a nice thing, and honestly it
was done from that perspective. It was, you know, I
think she would be the exact person I wanted, and
I went out and and made it happen through you know,
just kind of approaching and and you know, we did.
There was a you know, other options, obviously, but but
I definitely wanted that characterization. I wanted to depict her,
(37:02):
and I just after watching I just thought she was
perfect and I still I believe she's going to be
completely perfect.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
And that's how real change happens, not by making the
story about disability, but by allowing people with disabilities to
simply exist as full characters. It's a very simple thing,
and Hollywood can't seem to get it right. But thank
you for doing that and paving the way for friends
like Abigail.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Abigail, Now I'm going to pivot to you.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Whether it's the Disney Parade or now a feature film,
you show up with so much heart and fearlessness, and
you always have a message for your fans. So if
there's one thing you want people to take away from
watching this film and your journey, what would it be.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
I want to inspire people with disabilities and those without disabilities.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Well that's a huge takeaway and I love that about
you because you want to inspire everybody, and that's at
the heart of it all.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You're not just you're not just acting.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
You're activating something in people. And you remind me and
I think everyone else that that determination doesn't have a limit.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
So thank you now, Steve. As parents, our.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Job is to build a life where our children feel
capable and seen.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
But with Abigail's platform growing, the world is watching now too.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Okay, what has it been like to see her evolve
from your daughter to a global advocate with like Saraich
said one and a half million followers.
Speaker 11 (38:28):
Well, it's really been awesome. You know, I'd say I
can't minimize that Abigail has been the driving you know.
My role is her parent, like all parents, is to
give our kids whatever opportunities we can, and I think
that's something particularly if you have a child with the disability.
(38:50):
It's a lot of us get caught up in what
the world thinks, and we're afraid.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
We want to.
Speaker 11 (38:57):
Protect our children, and so too often parents of a
child with a disability will try to protect them and
keep them from participating because they don't want them to
be bullied, they don't want them to fail. And I
think that's they need to get away from. We need
to get away from worrying so much about what other
people think. Let's focus on the opportunities, because if you
(39:21):
don't try, then you can't succeed. And this is what
is really the beauty. I've got to underline what Surich
and you both said. This movie is a story about
a girl who is a good person and she happens
(39:41):
to have a disability. It's not about a person with
a disability who happens to do something good. And that's
I really asked a ton of Seiche. I think he's
typecast Abigail because she is just this is her personality
is to help people. And this is why she's instantly
able to make friends in in any situation, is because
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she is genuine and sincere, extremely friendly.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yeah, and to think it started with it, It all
started with just that one belief that she could do more.
And it's proof that belief is a superpower because you
pour that into her. And the truth is is that
she's become so much more than she can never expect.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Now, SIIs, filmmaking is more than just directing.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
It's producing, it's writing, it's casting, it's managing people.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
But for you, it's also advocacy.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
So how does your background as an animal rights supporter
and a humanitarian shape the way you tell human stories
on screen?
Speaker 10 (40:39):
I think when you grow up and you look at
the value of life and you have these things, you
watch them, it changes who you are. And I happen
to run a consulting business in Canada and I won't
go down that road at all, but you know, I've
kind of believe I've run the business that way as well.
It's with an element of humanity and kindness. It's not
you know, I believe that if you enjoy what you do,
(41:03):
you you you deal with you know, with with credibility
and ethics and morality. You know what, the the prosperity
will follow you. The number number one isn't the money.
It's it's down the line in your decision process. So
I think, I, you know, when I went into this
and and trying to decide what you know, because there's
limited time when you're doing these things, you know, they
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take a lot of time, and uh, you know what
what do you want to tell?
Speaker 4 (41:28):
So?
Speaker 10 (41:28):
Is it is it something innocuous that has a you know,
uh that's a good story, or is it something that
actually has meaning and and uh and value? And you know,
I couldn't think of a better thing to do with
my time than than than this type of a project.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Now, Abigail from Sprint triathlons to brand campaigns with Nike
and Google. I mean, you've partnered with some of the
biggest names out there, but now you're you're stepping into storytelling,
which is what you've always dreamed of doing full time.
Do you see acting as as your new chapter right
now and your advocacy And if you do see it
as that new chapter, what kind of stories would you
(42:05):
like to tell next or be part of?
Speaker 8 (42:08):
Yes it is, And to answer that question, it's marvel.
I wanted to expand my horizons and maybe a villain drama.
Speaker 11 (42:21):
Is definitely a part of her future.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Yes it is. Yes it is.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Your vision is magnetic and you're not just breaking ground,
you're building the stage for others to follow.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
So there's a lot of people cheering you on, Steve.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
So many families navigating disability feel isolated or just uncertain
in those early years, but your story offers them something
rare proof that thriving is in fact, very real and
very possible. So what message would you give to other
parents who make who might feel overwhelmed after a diagnosis?
Speaker 11 (42:50):
You know, would you get a diagnosis of a child
that's going to have a disability. Yet I think there
is a lot of very dark message that comes with it.
I think people in the medical field are the first
ones that you speak to, and they have often a
lot of gloom and doom. But here's my advice is
(43:13):
that don't give all the cretens in the world to
the experts. They know a lot about a lot of things,
but they don't know everything about everything. So your role
as a parent is to give your child every opportunity
they can that you can for them to be successful.
That's really the point is, don't be focused on what
(43:36):
other people will think. Don't be concerned about other people's opinions.
You need to push forward and know that it may
take a little bit longer, and just plan on that.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
And there's something else that you said in one of
the other interviews.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
You said community. You said community is key for you
and Abigail. I remember in one of our what you've
been on many times, but you remind me of community,
and I think that that's also something important because you
do have a huge community of friends and family and
the down syndrome community all advocating for Abigail and for
you and for others in similar situations. And having that
(44:15):
ability to rely on others or to even get an
applause from others is so so meaningful.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
It's the little things that.
Speaker 11 (44:24):
You're absolutely right having the support of other people. There's
a world full of good people just waiting for an
opportunity to do something good. And if you get out
there and you show that you're trying to do something constructive,
you're trying to do something positive, people will come to
(44:44):
your help, come to your aid, come and help you.
And that's not just people who have loved ones with disabilities.
That's coaches, that's teachers, that's movie directors, that's people with
wonderful podcasts. So there's a lot of good people. You
just need to let them know where they can find you.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
It was a pleasure having you both on Abigail. You're
not just a triathlete and a model and an actress.
You're a symbol of what happens when belief meets opportunity
and thanks to the creative lens of Surish Thrift Store
is going to help redefine what inclusion can look like
in cinema. So I thank you both for coming, and Steve,
thank you always for being there for her.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Thank you Zin. Thank you, thank you so much. Rava
really appreciate it. Thank you so very thank you.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
To follow Abigail's journey had to Abigail the Advocate dot
com and you can follow her all over social media TikTok, Instagram, Facebook,
and on the Gram at Abigail Underscore The Underscore Advocate.
And to learn more about the film, you can head
to surge Cedric dot com and follow the production updates
on Instagram at Surge Cedric Film. You could head directly
to his personal page at surge Cedric and remember, whether.
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