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leading the charge for women's sports, Miya and Maya Paldo,
also known as TBC or Twin Backcourt on the gram
With full scholarships to the University of Tennessee awaiting them,
Mia and Maya are poised to become household names. Today
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to Tennessee. In the Going Deep segment, brought to you
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we're joined by doctor Jamil Ahmed, a renowned plastic surgeon
specializing in aesthetic surgery and rhinoplasty, with over five thousand
prostidures performed since twenty ten. He is the president of
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the Board of dis of the Rhino Plasti Society. He's
going to join me to discuss how he helps patients
achieve natural looking results with reduced recovery time following facelifts.
Flap surgeries and rhino plastis and Hasco two lift is
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Today we're chatting all about breaking barriers and banking on name,
image and likeness. That's right. Meet the twin basketball phenoms
leading the charge for women's sports. Maya and Mia Paldo,
also known as TBC or Twin Backcourt, are not only
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dominating high school basketball, but are also making history. These
twins from Patterson, New Jersey, have shattered barriers, becoming the
first female high school athletes to secure a name, image
and likeness deal with you heard It, Puma. They've worked
with brands like Gatorade, Lego and Nissan, start in their
own overtime reality series and led their team to championship
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victory in the Overtime Select League. But their success isn't
just about stats or brand partnerships. It's truly a testament
to their hustle, their humor, and their ability to inspire
young athletes worldwide. With full scholarships to the University of
Tennessee awaiting them, Mia and Maya are posed to become
household names. Let's dive into what makes these young trailblazers tick,
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the challenges they face and the less since they're taking
with them to the very next level. This is the
Hydration with Heart segment, and let's dive right in. I'm
your host, zen Zams, Welcome to the show, Superstars in
you're even in tune with your greetings. Wow, oh boy, okay,
I know so Maya. We're gonna start with you. So
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let's kick things off with something game changing. Literally, you
and Mia made history as the first female high school
athletes to sign name, image and likeness deal with Puma,
and that's a monumental milestone considering that just two years ago,
nil opportunities didn't even exist for high school athletes, and
the NCAA rule change in twenty twenty one really did
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open up a one billion dollar market, but only a
sliver of that pie goes to women's sports. So how
does it feel to not just play the game but
also change it by breaking barriers for women in sports?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I feel very blessed and very grateful for being like
the role models to people and just having those type
of opportunities other people don't have. And we're just really
showing how much we love the game, and we're just
showing who we are. And I'm very excited and just
grateful to have those opportunities.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
What's your perspective, Mia.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, we're trautblowsers, and we love doing things first and
we're real competitive, so even if it comes on the
business side on the court, we love being the first
to be everything we're doing. But like Maya said, I'm
real grateful to be a role model to the ones
after us and even the ones before us. Because most
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of them, all of them didn't have the opportunities that
we're having today with nil and getting brand and.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
So I'm real grateful for having the opportunity to get
all these things.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, it's such a powerful reminder really if you think
a bit of how the right opportunity, combined with great
and talent can really reshape an entire industry. I mean,
you're not just making history, you're laying a foundation for
other young women to follow, and that's truly revolutionary.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Girls.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
So congratulations to all of your success you. Now let's
shift gears back to you, Mia over overtime series No
Limits with Maya and Maya. I mean, a recent survey
found that seventy five percent of gen Z prefers content
that feels authentic, and your show delivers just that. We
see your grind, your bond of sisters, and even the
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not so glamorous moments. So what has the experience been
like putting your lives on such a public platform and
how do you balance authenticity with keeping some parts of
your journey private.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
I mean, we.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Surround ourselves with great people, as you see on our show.
Everyone that's been a part of the show or had
their face in the show plays a part of our
development and us as people, we trust the ones close
to us and we keep that circle tight.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
And we know how to read energy well.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
So and for us to people to have our own
show is it's crazy, Like I can imagine myself having
like being on a movie or something like that. Like
it's just I'm so grateful for that. And it was
so funny. We have the humor and the personality, so
just to have it out there and being great people
on and off the court, and to be able to
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see that on TV.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
I think it's just a great thing.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You're so young, with so much insight, definitely old souls,
and it's so relatable and honestly inspiring to hear how
intentional you are about maintaining your success and the balance.
And your show doesn't just entertain it, it empowers people
to see that full picture of what it takes to
really succeed. So I think you guys are onto something incredible. Now, MAYA,
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let's talk about juggling it all. Studies show that student
athletes spend an average of thirty hours per week on
their sport, and that's without factoring in these responsibilities. Like
brand deals or social media. So you're not just running
a schedule, you're running an empire. Walk us through a
typical day in your life. How do you keep up
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the energy and focus to manage school, sports and everything else.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Well, I mean, I wouldn't say it's for an average
student to do what we're student apt to do what
we're doing. But I think we're able to remove our
schedule because we have each other and we just like
rely on each other. We help each other if we're
stressing or anythle like that. We always we just know
what's the main focus, and it's always school first and
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then basketball.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Now, Miah, let's dive into basketball's life lessons. So Purdue
recently found that seventy eight percent of former athletes say
their time in sports taught them leadership, teamwork, and resilience.
So you and your sister have been described as the
best high school backcourt in the nation. So clearly basketball
is more than just game free. What life lessons has
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the sport taught you and how do you think those
lessons will shape your next chapter? At the University of Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Basketball has told me to be able to deal with
different people, personalities and being able to acknowledge someone and
critique someone's work without being negative and go a different
way about it. And as well as you know, making
connections with people on different teams on the court, you
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know you can you compete against each other off the
court's always respect.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
So that feel like that's a life lesson.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
It is. It's fascinating to see how sports translate into
life skills that extend far beyond the court, like you
just said, and the Lady Volves are not just you know,
getting talented players, They're getting true leaders like you. So
it's it's amazing. Now, Maya, let's talk family. You've both
mentioned how instrumental your family has been in your journey.
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I know for a fact that your dad, DJ is
an incredible court system and role model. And it's no
surprise research from the NCAA highlights that nearly seventy percent
of student athletes credit family support is a key to
their success. So what's the most important lesson your family
has taught you? And how does that foundation keep you
grounded amidst all the success.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
They always tell us to surround ourselves with people who
want to be around and I feel like we found
people that are going to be our friends or just
be the people we want to be around forever. And
I think that's why we're so successful, because we stay
around people we want to be around on the court
off the court, and just that will help support us
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throughout our journey.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
And another thing.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
They also taught is to always be confident, and that's
why we're so outgoing. We're able to show people who
we are and are not scared to do that because
they just always told us to keep our head high,
be who you are, and don't ever be scared to
do anything. And that's what's helping us see the most.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Those are such important life lessons. It's so tough to
hear how deeply rooted you are in your family values.
It's a true testament to how success starts at home
and grows outward. Right now, Miah, let's look ahead to
the future. Okay, I want to between college and these
name image, likeness opportunities and eventually the WNBA, your potential
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both of you it seems limitless. But what's remarkable is
how you and your sister are already thinking about the
legacy that you want to leave behind. Right so, what
are your ultimate goals, both individually and as a duo,
and how do you hope to leave your mark on
women's basketball?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Personally, I want to be the freshman player of the
year in the SEC and in the NC double light.
I want to become a One of my goals is
to become a better point card and I know being
I know, being a player under coach Kim Cadwell, I
know that that will be possible because she's such a
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great coach. And I also want to lead in stills
because I really want to work on my defense as well.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
I just want to be.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
An overall player and then overall together, I want to
win national championship. You know that that's the main focus,
and with the group that's coming in next year.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I think we have a possibility of doing that.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Wow, all right, sister, you're up. Yeah, she said it all.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I definitely want to be I want to be the
all defensive player in SEC, and I think like all
n Cuba as well. I also want to lead in
stills like me instead and assists because I'm want to
just make those passes on my teammates and knock those
shots down.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
And like also, like Mia said, when and Natty, all right,
my DearS, we're officially out of time. Thank you so
much for joining us tonight again, You're welcome. And that's
to wrap on today's Hyjation with Heart segment brought to
you by one supont of Coconut. That was Maya and
Me and you've They've inspired to all with their drive,
their authenticity and their vision for the future and to
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anyone listening. You can follow them on the Gram at
TBCMIA number three and at tbcmy A number two for
a behind the scenes look at their journey, and you
can also head to twin Back Court twenty three. This
has been a moment of Zen. Stay tuned for more
inspiring stories that remind us all to dream big and
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moment of Zen right here on seven to ten WR
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Speaker 8 (15:11):
I'm your host, Zen SAMs. Happy New Year and welcome
to twenty twenty five. Welcome to another Going Deep segment
brought to you by Co two Lift in our expert
on the microphone series. Today we're joined by doctor Jamil Ahmed,
a renowned plastic surgeon specializing in aesthetic surgery and rhinoplasty,
with over five thousand procedures performed since two thy ten.
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He's served in many prominent leadership roles, including Assistant Professor
at the University of Toronto, VP on the Executive Committee
of the Board of Directors of the Aesthetics Society, President
of the Board of Directors of the Rhinoplasty Society, and
he's also authored more than one hundred and eighty articles
in chapters and he's given over five hundred lectures globally.
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He's definitely a key figure driving innovation and education in
plastic surgery. He's going to join me today to discuss
how he helps patients achieve natural looking results with reduced
recovery time following facelifts, flap surgeries, and rhinoplastis, and how
COO two lived is at the heart of it all.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Welcome to the show, Superstar.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Hey Zen, thanks so much for having me on. It's
really a pleasure to spend time with you today.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
So honored to have you expert on the microphone Supercharged.
So you certainly have an impressive list of accomplishments over
a wide range of cosmetic surgeries and are sought after
for your expertise and really just delivering that natural result.
So let's talk about that. Many patients today prioritize natural
looking outcomes. How do you manage patient expectations and ensure
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that your approach aligns with this goal of achieving this
refreshed but still keeping that authentic appearance.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Zen, I think that's a really great question. You know,
getting a natural appearing result is imperative, at least in
my mind, and I think communication forms a foundation for
a good relationship between a plastic surgeon and his or
her patient. I think this needs to communicate both what
the options are, what the upsides the downsides are, what
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the most likely outcome is, and what potentially negative outcomes
can be. And I think a patient also has to
communicate clearly what they're hoping to accomplish from a treatment,
and I think you need honest communication. The other thing
that helps a lot these days, I think with the
Internet and social media is there's just so much more
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content out there that patients can research and get an
idea of. And that's good and bad because there's some
very good, accurate, honest content, factual content, and then there's
also content there that can be misleading potentially not present
things as they are. And I think it's important to
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have that discussion so that a patient can really understand
what's real. What's a real expectation of an outcome from
a surgical or non surgical treatment.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Well, that's put perfectly into perspective, and your one hundred
percent right. It's all about communication, realistic expectations, and more importantly,
managing those expectations. Because I'm sure patients are coming in
with pictures saying I want to look like that, and
that's not always realistic. Right now, let's shift to the
recovery process. So before patients can see these natural results
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in full, they must fully heal and downtime can differ
from procedure to procedure. But one thing that we know
can significantly decrease downtime and enhance procedure results across the
board is COO two Lift, and we're talking about co
two Lift Pro, which is the strongest version of this
non invasive carboxy gel. And it can only be provided
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to patients by medical professionals like yourself. But before we
dive into how you use it on your patients, can
you describe the application process and how COO two lift
functions on a cellular level.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
It's very easy to use. It comes in two packets.
You open the packets, combine it, mix it for both
the thirsty seconds that activates the gel and gels applied
to skin and carbon dioxide then diffuses through the skin
into the skin and the tissues just below that. And
carbon dioxide does a few things. When you think of
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healing and what wounds need to heal properly, Oxygen is
a major component that basically powers all of the metabolism
in a cell. And how does oxygen get to the tissues. Well,
it gets there through blood flow and through blood vessels,
and blood vessels are very reactive. They can get tighter
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or they can get looser, and obviously when they get looser,
and it's called basodilation, then there's increased blood float an area.
So CO two or carbon dioxide causes basodylation in the
small blood vessels and that increases blood flow. The next
thing it does is that within the blood and within
the red blood cell, there's hemoglobin, right, And hemoglobin is
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a protein that carries oxygen molecules in the cell. And
hemoglobin is very responsive to different things in the environment,
and so when there's increased CO two, hemoglobin releases oxygen.
So you can imagine in tissues like when you exercise
and you create lactic acid, your body needs to bring
in oxygen to metabolize that lactic acid. Right, So in
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a situation the tissues where it's more acidic, you're going
to release more oxygen from the hemoglobin. And carbon dioxide
does the same thing, right, So when there's higher carbon dioxin,
the tissues. The tissues need more oxygen, so hemoglobin then
releases or has less affinity for the oxygen that it's carrying. So,
I mean, the human body is just incredible how it works.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
It's fascinating. It's basically a hyperbaric oxygen chamber in a
gel mask if you really think of it, right, because
that neoagiogenesis is what's taking place throughout all of this,
and I love that it's been around since the nineteen thirties,
but yet the method of delivery is now non invasive
they used to inject. It is great that with all
these technologies and these new modalities that you have pre
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and posed procedure to help your patients, and then the outcomes,
of course, are so much more rewarding. Now, let's hone
in on a few specific procedures, starting with facelifts, but
with an increased interest in facelifts, how have you integrated
modern technologies like ZEO two lift or even other techniques
to improve their outcomes.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
I think that's a great question. I mean, you know,
there's constant innovation in medicine and also in plastic surgery,
but I think if you take a step back and
you think about what really makes the difference. I think
it's really the provider, the physician, Right, You've got to
go to someone who's you know, experienced, who has a
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lot of insight, who understands what the current science is,
what the clinical data shows. And then that provider is
going to take in all of the different treatment modalities
that can be used and integrate those to you know,
create the treatment plan for an individual patient. Right. And
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you know, as we talked about before, communications critical about
not only what's going to be done, but you know,
I spend a lot of time preoperatively talking about what
the post operative recovery is going to be, right because
I want my patient to really understand each step of
the way so there's as few surprises as possible. Now
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as we move into the recovery period, there's a lot
of things we can do, right, I mean, I think
you know, good follow up with with your surgeon is imperative.
There's things that we can do for incision care and
then scar management. And now we're seeing things that are
essentially simple, safe and effective like CO two lyft that
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we can apply to skin to tissue incision lines that's
going to enhance healing by increasing blood flow increasing oxygenation,
decreasing the inflammatory response, and that affects things at a
few levels. Number one is I think you're reducing the
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risk of complications and even small complications like break down
in the incision or excessive scarring. But I think the
other thing we're much more aware of now is patient experience, right,
so increased comfort, decrease pain in the recovery period. And
having used CO two lift on a fair amount of patients,
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you know, I started in the practice in the past
year where I was using it when there was a problem,
when there was a wound healing problem, because I want
to enhance oxygenation and the tissues and really try to
help the incision to heal and the wound to heal.
And now it's gone to using it in patients at
the time surgery is finished to try to enhance not
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only blunt flow and reduce the risk of wound healing complications,
but also to try to increase comfort in the close
stopper period. And I hear from patients they'll say, oh,
you know, after my tummy talk, you know, the incision
feels so much better. It just doesn't feel dry. I
find when I apply it, you know, for the first
few hours after the decision feels great, but then as
the day goes on, it's a bit more sore again.
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And then when I apply it the next day, incision
feels great again. So I think that whole idea of
really trying to enhance the patient experience in recovery is
becoming central in how we provide care for our patients
and class surgery.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Wow, what a revolutionary product, really, truly, and it's so simple.
It's the simplest thing. Now, let's shift to flap surgery,
which involves transporting live tissue from one location of the
body to another and is often done in reconstructive surgeries,
and for our listeners, flap surgery can be really complex
and requires a careful recovery process healing two sides of
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the body. How do flaps enhance functionality and aesthetics in
these cases? And what steps do you take to help
patients recover safely and effectively.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Yeah, I think you know flap surgery. I mean, flap's
a very broad term to describe a lot of what
we do, which is moves being some type of tissue
from one area of the body to another. What most
of your listeners are going to understand is something like
a tummy tuck, where we're not only removing the extra
skin and the lower tummy, but we're actually releasing some
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of the upper tummy skin and then moving it to
the lower tummy to make things tighter, right, And that
in itself is an example of a flap. And if
we shift to the other end of the spectrum of
flap surgery, which is preflap surgery and microsurgery, where we
essentially will take tissue let's say skin and fat along
with the major blood vessel that supplies it, essentially unplug
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it from one area, so let's say the lower tummy,
and then in breast reconstruction, will plug it into a
blood vessel in the rib cage to reconstruct a breast
right to provide skin and volume in the form of fat.
And so you have different types of flap surgery. And
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often in these free flap surgeries, you're not only taking
care of the area like the breast that's being reconstructed,
but you're also taking care of the donor site, which
would be the lower abdomen. So you're doing a big
surgery and having to manage multiple sites. And again it's
I think a similar approach to what we do in
aesthetic surgery. Right, you're trying to plan an appropriate surgery
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that's going to have a very good chance of a
positive outcome, and you want to reduce any potential for
negative outcome. And that again goes back to the planning,
the execution of the operation, and then also the post
operative care right trying to ensure that the patient has
a great experience, trying to make sure that their incisions
and their wounds heal without any issues, and then also
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trying to make sure that pain and discomfort is minimized.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Now, you're also an expert in rhinoplasty, co authoring the
third and fourth editions of Dallas Rhinoplasty and serving as
the president of the Board of Directors of the Rhinoplasty Society,
which is an international professional organization for surgeons specializing in rhinoplasty.
You can't get any more expert than this. Now, this
is especially impressive as rhinoplasty is, in fact one of
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the most difficult procedures in plastic surgery to achieve consistently
good results. So, as an expert, what new technologies or
techniques have you implemented in regard to this area.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
For the most part, when patients come to see me
for rhinoplasty, they come in wanting to look natural. Right.
There might be something they don't like about their nose,
but they want to achieve a result that's going to
fit their face. It's going to complement their facial features.
They're not trying to get a cookie cutter nose like
in decades past, in the seventies and eighties, where you
went in for rhinoplasty and the same technical maneuvers were
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done on every patient and essentially created somewhat of a
similar result on every patient, and for many patients would
look overdone. And so patients come in with expectation to
have a natural pearing result. That's great because it means
that it's going to fit their face now, it's going
to fit their face in the future. It also means
that it's not going to be a nose that's excessively
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small or exaggerated. And the nose needs to be a
certain size to work properly, right, because we breathed through
a nose and that's really a critical function. And then
with that, I think what's happened is technically there's been
a shift of what we're doing to the cartilage under
the nose. So in decades past there was a lot
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more removal of cartilage and weakening of cartilage to create
a smaller point to your nose. Now we're really much
more conscious about doing structural rhinoplasty, so supporting weak areas
of the nose, maintaining structure support in the nose during rhinoplasty,
and we do that through a variety of techniques to
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manipulate the cartilage. Sometimes it's folding the cartilage on itself
so that we're not actually removing it. We can make
it a bit smaller, but then it's still as strong.
Other times we bore a bit of partners from other areas,
sometimes inside the septum and actually move that to another
area of the nose to provide support. And that's really
a key to a great long term result. It's like
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building a house. If you have a great, great foundation
and frame, you know you're going to have a great house.
If you don't have that, then you're going to know
that things start to go wrong sooner. Right, So I
think that's critical well said.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Now, serving as an assistant professor and a leader in
various professional organizations, why do you believe being educated on
the latest trends and technologies, even something as simple as
CO two lift is crucial in the field of plastic surgery.
I mean not just for practicing health professionals, but also
for both students, especially in an air of such rapid advancements.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
I think that's exactly it, Zen, is that we need
up to date. You know, that serves our patients best.
There's continuous innovation. There are a lot of things that
we didn't do in the past that are becoming really
a standard in terms of providing the best patient care,
and it's important to keep up to date. And you know, personally,
(30:19):
I've been involved since my finishing my residency in our
professional organizations. As you stated, I've been involved in the
Aesthetic Society, which is the largest professional organization for a
board certified plastic surgeons who specialize in aesthetic surgery or
cosmetic surgery. I was recently the past president of the
Society for Sthetic Plastic Surgeons, which is our version of
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that in Canada. I'm currently the president of the Rhino
Clast Society. And you know, it's very important to be
involved because this is where a lot of the innovation
is put out to the professionals, right, So this is
where the latest science is presented. This is where the
US techniques are taught. And so when we go to
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these meetings, we get a great opportunity to continue our
medical education, to continue to learn and improve our craft
and that ultimately benefits our patients. Also, at these meetings,
a lot of the innovations from industry are there, right,
So like CO two lyft being a new product. You know,
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it's just it works, It's simple, safe, effective, that's what
you want for patients. And if one's not participating within
the profession, I think they miss out on a lot
of these opportunities to learn about new innovations that are
going to directly benefit their patients and improve their patients experience.
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Well said, well, we are at the end of our date,
my friend. I thank you so much for coming on.
It was a pleasure chatting with you, very inspiring and
thank you so much for all your knowledge.
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Great, thanks so much for having me.
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York Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area you're listening to
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the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen.
Sam's up. In just a few minutes, we have the
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Idala Bertuna Cammons, otherwise known as ABK Law right here
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in New York City. He's also a regular contributor and
legal analyst on law and crime. Today we explore a
chilling trend that has sparked debate across the nation, the
rise of highly educated Ivy League educated white men in
their twenties who allegedly commit HAINEUS crimes. Two cases stand
out in particular, Luigi Mangioni and Brian Cooberger. Luigi Mangioni,
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a twenty six year old graduate of the University of Pennsylvania,
has been charged in connection with the killing of United
Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Allegations point to meticulous planning, including
the use of a ghost gun, and anti corporate ideologies
discovered in a manifesto. Upon his arrest, Brian Koberger, a
twenty nine year old criminology PhD student stands trial for
(34:15):
the twenty twenty two brutal slangs of four University of
Idaho students. Evidence linking him to the crime scene has
raised unsettling questions about the paradox of a man studying
criminal justice while allegedly committing such an act. Both cases
reveal unsettling similarities high education, privilege, and meticulous methods that
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baffle law enforcement and the public alike. To help us
break this down, we're joined by Imran Ansari. Welcome to
the show, Superstar.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Then, okay, so the paradox here is hard to ignore. Imran.
We have two individuals, Manngonian Coburger who come from privileged
academic backgrounds. I mean, this isn't your typical criminal profile.
Yet their alleged crimes are heinous, calculated, and seemingly defy logic,
and studies suggest that traits such as narcissism, suppressed aggression,
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or even a desire for notoriety can drive individuals like these.
So what psychological factors might drive highly educated individuals like
Mangioni and Cooburger to commit such violent acts seemingly at
odds with their backgrounds.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
Two factors are more. There could be a desire to
have that fame. Like you said, Zen, there's a trait
that is common in serial killers, those who are killing
for fame, that they enjoy to see their names in
the papers. They get some sort of satisfaction from that,
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and that could be some sort of factor we have here.
Of course, Brian Koberger was a studying criminology and a PhD,
so he was infused with criminology and crime and forensics.
And then of course he's alleged to have committed this
multi murderer on the campus of that university.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
Then you have someone like Mangioni.
Speaker 10 (36:05):
This guy seemingly had everything you see, which is sort
of somewhat morbid and disturbing, but this public attraction to him.
He's a good looking guy, he's a young guy. He
comes from a family of wealth and seeming political influence
and social influence. Yet here he is alleged to have
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commit this crime and done so in a premeditated state
where it was meticulously planned. Of course, he was caught
and is alleged to now have committed the crime. But
that could be also some desire for fame or notoriety,
notoriety like that. There's also a possibility that both these
individuals may have been suffering from mental health illnesses, and
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that's something what does not discriminate against socioeconomic lines, whether
someone is educated or highly educated versus someone who may
be from poverty and have gone on to commit crimes.
If it's mental health based, then that's something that doesn't
discriminate and it's a factor that has to be considered
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actually in both these alleged crimes where these individuals are
alleged to have committed them.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Well, Nanjioni's mother was interviewed and she released a statement
to somebody in the authority saying, I could see my
son doing something like this. I mean, that's a pretty
that's a pretty powerful statement from a mother.
Speaker 11 (37:30):
Right.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
So it's interesting that you bring up mental health because
if you go back to why she would have felt
like that perhaps there was a decline in his mental
health or behavior leading up to this alleged crime, right
that the mother was able to even point out. So
mental health could be a huge play here. And your
perspective is so fascinating, the one that alludes to wanting
(37:52):
fame and notoriety, right, I mean, it's really it's very
sovereign to realize that psychological traits like suppressed aggression can
exist even among the most outwardly successful individuals. And it
certainly challenges, like what you said, that societal assumption. Right,
So let's talk about the role of education, right. Traditionally
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education is viewed as a deterrent to crime. Yet in
these cases we see how their intelligence and academic backgrounds
may have even empowered their alleged actions. I mean, Coburger's
studies in criminology, for example, may have given him insight
into avoiding detection. And Mangoni's like technical skills pretty much
enabled the construction of a ghost gun meticulously planned. So
(38:36):
how might their advanced education influence their methods and motivation
in committing these crimes? This is what you see every day, Emma.
Speaker 9 (38:45):
Sure.
Speaker 10 (38:45):
So starting with MANGIONI, I mean, we already have evidence
that he was studying certain ideologies and he was critical of, say,
you know, capitalism in some way or big pharma, and
he was doing some research on his own in terms
of some of these ideologies and being outspoken about that.
(39:08):
And you've seen him when he was being brought into
the prison after he was apprehended it, you know, he
was very combative with the media and he was sort
of spewing what seems to be ideological you know, ranting
and utterances. And of course, if we are looking at
the evidence in this case, there was Deny Defend depos
(39:31):
etched into the shellcasings of these bullets, which shows a
very you know, a study because there was the book
which was criticizing big pharma and healthcare in this country,
and that was etched on the shell. So you're seeing
a motive based not on necessarily just mindless violence, although
(39:53):
this is a tragedy and this is clearly a violent killing,
but it's based on an ideology or a belief system
them that is now almost like an intellectual killer. It
is someone who is targeting another based on that teachings
or understandings that they have got through reading, through study,
(40:14):
and it has now manifested itself, not in just say
extreme or voicing out against healthcare or a big pharma
or the industry here in this country, or capitalism or
what have you, but it actually manifested itself in a
violent act.
Speaker 9 (40:31):
And of course he's alleged to have committed.
Speaker 10 (40:33):
That violent act and he has that pedigree which doesn't
necessarily fit the public's image or stereotype of a cold
blooded killer. And when you look to someone like Brian Coburger,
it's somewhat of a similar thing. This guy was studying
to get his PhD in criminology and with Brian Coberger
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did the study of criminology that was aligne crossed where
the study of it became a fascination with it and
had led him to allegedly committed this multi murder homicide
on the campus of that university. And could the teachings
or the study inform some of the actions that he
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took after that killing that he's alleged to have committed.
So these are it's fascinating where you see these two individuals,
and I think that's why the public is so focused
on these cases.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Let's chat societal pressures. There's no denying the pressures that
individuals from privileged, high achieving backgrounds face. Expectations from family, society,
and even peers can sometimes lead to disillusionment or even breakdowns.
The question arises, when does that pressure become too much,
leading to radical or violent outcomes im run could societal
pressures and the burden of expectations contribute to the radicalization
(41:53):
of criminal behaviors of such individuals.
Speaker 10 (41:56):
When we talk about societal pressures, we could take the
word societal and look at the term social media. And
I raise this because there's such an access to information
out there now for let's say a young mind such
as Mangioni or Coburger, and not only is there the
information that's available to them, but a lot of misinformation.
(42:19):
And I think we've seen that sort of trend where
whether it be in politics where people are sometimes latching
on to some views that or fake news or misinformation
that's out there that is later debunked, but it starts
sort of a frenzy of thought and communications out there
(42:40):
about something and may lead.
Speaker 9 (42:42):
Someone to violence who knows right.
Speaker 10 (42:44):
And then you have that situation potentially here where they're
accessing information that are seeing, you know, the ability to
maybe get notoriety very quickly now that there's social media
and there's so much information at our fingertips, and it
could be leading. The societal pressures could be stemming from
things like that, the need for attention. Maybe they've been
(43:08):
rejected in life, or they've had everything at their fingertips
and with that silver spoon, so to say, and in
a weird way, it's manifesting itself in their minds to
reject that and maybe go to the total opposite extreme
and reject some of that societal norm that they've been
accustomed to in their lives. So it could be the pressure,
(43:32):
It could be social media, it could be access to
disinformation or misinformation that all comes together, maybe in the
crucible of a mental health issue, and it manifests itself
with these sort of conditions that leads to a violent crime.
Speaker 9 (43:50):
Like we see here.
Speaker 10 (43:51):
So there's a lot of pressure on youth, let's say,
in the age range of both these young men, that
could have manifested itself in the.
Speaker 9 (44:00):
Most extreme form here what we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Now, let's pivot to legal implications. We know that the
legal system aims for impartiality, but the reality is often
more complex. Studies have shown that socioeconomic status, education, and
even race can sometimes influence sentencing and legal outcomes. In
cases like Mangioni and Coburger, where privilege and education are
(44:25):
at play, the public often wonders will they be treated
differently under the law. Do defendants like Maggioni and Coburger
receive different legal considerations imran due to their educational backgrounds
and societal status.
Speaker 10 (44:37):
They shouldn't And if it's established through the evidence that
either of these two individuals committed the crime at trial,
when it comes down to sentencing, there's going to be
mandatory minimums in many ways, especially if they are convicted
of murder.
Speaker 9 (44:56):
And I don't expect that there would.
Speaker 10 (44:58):
Be any leniency in any form, even if there was
some sort of discretion to do so, just because of
their their background or you know, their education or their
family life, because these are pretty serious. These are the
most serious crimes that we could see here a homicide,
and it may be a factor more so these considerations
(45:22):
during the course of the trial and when those attorneys
are going to select that jury to make sure they
get a fair and impartial jury. Who's going to be
looking past, say, you know what they these individuals may
have had, and that they've had everything at their fingertips,
why would they have commit this sort of alleged or
why is it alleged that they committed this crime? And
that's going to be perhaps more of a consideration at
(45:44):
that time selecting a fair and impartial jury. At trial
versus sentencing, where I think that if they are convicted,
they're probably going to get the maximum.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
And finally, let's chat preventative measures if any preventing cases
like these requires understanding the warning signs. Early educational institutions
often have a front row seat to students' mental and
emotional health, but may not always know how to intervene,
so creating environments that encourage students to seek help is critical.
(46:15):
What steps can educational institutions take to identify and support
students who may be at risk of engaging in violent
behavior despite their academic successes in run.
Speaker 10 (46:25):
Sure, if there's a good faith basis to believe that
a student may be dealing with a mental illness that
may manifest itself at some point in some sort of
violent act, and certainly those.
Speaker 9 (46:36):
Educational institutions should do anything.
Speaker 10 (46:38):
Under their power, under the law and whatever parameters they
have to make sure that that individual gets the mental
health treatment that they need, at least in the school setting. Right,
there's only so many things they could do outside of
the school setting. But if there's a credible threat, there
is the burden and the responsibility for that school to
(47:00):
let law enforcement know that there is someone who is
manifesting some desire to commit a violent crime, and they
have to make sure that they get that information to
those who are in the ability or do have the
ability and are in the position to possibly prevent a
crime from happening. Of course, there's no such thing as
(47:21):
preventive detention in certain ways, but if there is someone
who is becoming violent and there is enough for law
enforcement or even civil commitment in terms of a mental
health institution, for action to be taken under the law,
then certainly the red flags need to be paid attention to,
and these educational institutions need to make sure that they
(47:44):
report it to the proper authorities.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, well, we are out of time, and Ron, thank
you so much for joining us today and providing such
thoughtful insights. These cases remind us of the complexities behind
violent crimes and the importance of examining both the psychological
and societal factors at play. Thank you so much for
breaking that down.
Speaker 9 (48:01):
Thanks for having me zin to our listeners.
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