Hour 3-Gregory Wrightstone and Karen Kataline

Gregoty Wrightstone the Excutive Director of the CO2 coalition joins us to kick off the hour. Then, we are joined by political pundit Karen Kataline.

Episode Transcript

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One O four nine, The Patriotnot fenced in at all, having a
great time, Gary, Jeff Walkerwith you in for Jamie Allman this morning
and my next guest. I first, I first became aware of this guy
when he released a book called InconvenientFacts, and the subtitle was something along

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the lines the science that Al Goredoesn't want you to know. Al Gore,
of course, being the leading voice, one of the leading voices anyway,
of the fact that we humankind iscausing the planet to die because of

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catastrophic man made climate change. Youhear it everywhere you go. Every time
there is a tornado or a hurricane, every time they are is a heat
dome, every time El Nino affectsour weather in the summer and makes it
hotter. Without without of course,recognizing all of these hysterical voices from Greta

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Tunberg to al Gore to Bill nithe non science guy tell you that this
is the hottest summer ever, orthis is the hottest month ever on record,
They're not being totally well, they'renot being honest at all with you.
And this is what basically has transpiredover the last thirty years with this

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mantra and especially in the last fiveto ten, is a huge transfer of
wealth from one group to another.That's what this is all about, as
far as I can tell. Thisgentleman is the executive director of what is
called the CO two Coalition. Ifyou're not familiar with their work, you

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should go to their website and findout how you can really be educated on
the subject of climate change, becauseyes, it is changing. It changes
all the time. It's changing aswe speak. Although I have very little
impact on that, I believe andI believe this gentleman feels the same ways.
Gregory Whitestone is our guest. GregGood morning, How are you so?

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Really good boy? There's a lotof misinformation being spun out there.
There almost too much for us togo over. But let's get started,
all right, let's go what isWhat is the latest and greatest hit that
you have from actual data and notthe cooked books data. Well, there

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was a lot of talk last weekrecently about July being the hottest month ever
or the last one twenty five yearshottest July on record. Well, the
record only goes back. They werelooking at the satellite data that only goes
back to nineteen seventy nine. Ithink there were a few Julyes before nineteen

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seventy nine, and was it awarm month? Yes, globally. A
lot of that though, was driven. You've not heard this before, neither
of anybody, any of your listeners. They look at global temperatures around the
world using satellites and they use it'snot just North American Europe. They're looking
at Arctic and Antarctic. A bigdriver in this July warming was a heatwave

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in Antarctica. Who knew it warmed? Get this, it warmed, It
warmed. The heat wave warm fromseventy degrees fahrenheit to minus thirty degrees fahrenheit.
Now, all right, you're stillsixty two degrees away from any ice

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melting. So it went from reallyreally really really cold to just really really
cold, and that drove a lotof that temperature increase. They also talked
about this boiling oceans that in theFlority Keys hottest temperatures ever recorded. But
it turns out after looking at itin detail, which is what you pay

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me to do, is the temperaturerecord that they're quoting was from one Booie
out of many hundreds across the wholearea, and that Booie was located really
really shallow water, and it wasunderlain by this stuff called mick. Right,
it's a lime mud. It's darkgray, and so it's very shallow.
It's got an almost black bottom.The sun's beating down at one hundred

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degrees full sunlight, of course itgets warm. It was that particular booie
was warm during low tide, butthen within twelve hours the temperature dropped ten
degrees intire like. So it wasthis just this one unique blip of hot
temperatures from one booie in this inthe Keys. But yet that's global warming.

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That's that's we should all be scaredof low tide and sunlight warming water
in very shallow water. That iswhat they equated to. That equated to
global to climate boiling or global boilingor whatever. But what they did they
take. They take. They takethese things anything anywhere it's really hot,

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like southern Italy, Texas, whereverit might be, and they got they
wring their hands and they use fakedata or data from like Phoenix that was
near the airport that was artificially hotterthan what it really is, and they
take that, but they ignore.At the same time, they were calling

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and saying the hottest month were hottesttemperatures ever. They were passing out blankets
in the United Kingdom because it wasnear record cold. The Queen of Tonga
in the South Pacific was handing outgloves and blankets and hats because Tonga was
so cold, and and no onetalked about that. No one's ever of

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your listeners have ever heard about anyof that, because it goes against the
narrative, and it's it's this.What they want to do is instill a
climate of fear, and they're doingit very well. They're working overtime to
get that false information out there.Well, we're not. We're not at
any place technologically or economically to giveup carbon emissions, to give up CO

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two. And the fact, thefact of the matter, Greg Whitestone,
is you know very well that COtwo is what makes the world co round
when it comes to life on Earthand the greening of Earth. Plants need
it to survive. They give usoxygen back. It seems like a really,

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really good plan that God is devised, and I don't think that we're
going to be able to screw thatup with our activity. What do you
think what it is exactly? Sawthe numbers say that the Earth is and
its ecosystems are thriving and prospering becauseof the combination of warming. And we're
CO two primarily more CO two.Our our motto, unofficial motto here at

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the CO two Coalition is we loveCO two and so should you. And
it's it's it's the miracle. Wecall it the miracle molecule. And we're
we want to take this message ofa thriving planet and the benefits of CO
two. We're we're taking that tostudents and providing information for educators. If

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your listeners are our homeschool and yoursons and DAWs, or you have Children
of the Air homeschool and your grandkids, go to CO two Learning Center dot
com. Co two Learning Center dotcom. We have science based books,
videos, and importantly we have lessonplans that you can download. The PDF

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doesn't cost you anything. There's asmall fee for the books, but the
books are just done. They're justincredibly interesting. The kids love them.
The favorite that all the kids loveis called Simon the Solar Powered Cat.
It's it's about photosynthesis and how photosynthesisrevolves around everything that we eat. The

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Simon the Solar powered cat eats micein the garden and the micey corn and
plants that are that use photosynthesis.So although Simon might not be solar powered
himself, the food he eats isfrom photosynthesis, benefits from photosynthesis. And
if you think about this, butwhat's photosynthesis? Photosynthesis means you need water,

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sunlight, and CO two and themore CO two the better. Well,
what's their solution. They want todrop CO two to suboptimal levels.
We're not anywhere near optimum levels forplant growth for CO two we keep increasing
and that's a good thing. Thereare other solution is to block the sunlight

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now with geoengineering and checking sulfate intothe stratosphere. And then the third leg
of this, they want to getrid of nitrogen fertilizers. We have to
ban nitrogen fertilize to kill the planet. It's an anti human agenda, Garry,
it's anti human. They want toThey want to decrease crop growth by

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reducing CO two, reducing sunlight,and stopping nitrogen fertilizers. What could go
wrong? I can tell you whatgoes wrong. Millions of people dying because
of fan and around the world.That's the result that will be the result
if they get and they have beensome of them have not been very shy

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about saying reducing population. They want. They want to kill off a great
percentage of the Earth's population, andthe only way to do that is too
well, prevent food from being grown, prevent people from enjoying the natural resources
we have readily available to heat andto cool ourselves and all and to get

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around. Greg Whitstone is our guest. We've got to take a break right
now, Greg, but if youcan hang on just a few more minutes,
I would appreciate it. I wantto talk about some of the inconvenient
facts that you list in your originaltone that was a bestseller multiple times.
But we'll get to that in justa moment. It's around seven eighteen on

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a Wednesday morning, August nine,Gary, Jeff Walker and for Jamie Allman.
Our guest is Gregory Wrightstone from theCO two Coalition here on one oh
four nine the Patriot on a Wednesday, August ninth, and our guest in

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this half hour Gregory Wrightstone, executivedirector of the CO two Coalition. Now,
Greg, I have a guest whoyou may be familiar with later on
this morning named Bruce Liondike. Heis, He is a geologist like you,
and he made a trip, actuallymade nine different expeditions to Antarctica.

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Do you know where he comes down? Are you familiar with Bruce Liondike at
all? No, I'm not.I don't know that name. Okay,
all right, Well, I'll seeif I'm equipped to talk to him about
climate change through our conversation and offeran alternate view. I don't know what
his view is, but I knowhe has some definite ideas about climate change

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thanks to his expeditions to Antarctica.Well, you know him a mighty bad
line. Yeah, ask him aboutwhat, uh, well, the the
Antarctic station down there, and Iforget the name of it. It might
be the I forget the name.But they're now on the third station.
The first two were overwhelmed by snowand ice accumulation. They had to they're

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entirely covered with snow and ice.This one, now, the latest version
is on stilts, so as thesnow and ice accumulates, they can actually
raise the station to grow along withthe snow, which is quite a bit
different from what we're being told aboutAntarctica melting and and you know snow and
ice is retreating. That puts thelight of that moment I asked him about

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that. All right, I willthat's a good, good point. Thank
thanks for helping me do the showfor for a future guests my job.
Let's get back to Inconvenient Facts,which was when that was. That was
the book that first raised my antennaand had me put you on the air.
And through the years we have we'vedeveloped and lots of great information from

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you. But the information that isbeing fed to the American public, to
the world public in mass says exactlythe opposite of what you're telling me.
The true facts are. So canyou highlight a couple of inconvenient facts that
fly in the face of this thisindustry that promotes and profits from the man

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made climate change story. Yeah,well, I'm gonna we just publish an
important document, important study that youand everyone listening right now needs to go
download. It's called the American Midwest. Life in America's bread basket is good
and getting better, and it includesMissouri in that. And what we do

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is we take a look at theten Midwestern states and we look at actual
temperature data, heat wave data.We look at for example, we see
that nighttime low temperatures are increasing.That's a good thing. Resonant that means
fewer killing frosts is better for agriculture. Killing frosts end earlier in the spring,

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arrived later in the fall. Wehave longer growing seasons. We see
that heat waves in the Midwest,including around Saint Louis, spiked in the
late twenties and nineteen thirties and havebeen relatively low ever since. We look
importantly for Missouri and the rest ofthe Midwest is agriculture. What's going on
with agriculture and climate change? Wesay it's just breaking records year after year.

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Corn growth is being fueled by alot of things. CO two at
the top of the list. There'sa lot of things going on. Precipitation
in Missouri is modestly increasing. Again, that's a huge benefit to agriculture.
And we just see one thing afteranother and again. The subtitle is life

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in America's breadbasket is good and gettingbetter. We see that repeated time and
time and time again. Everywhere welook completely opposite. So if you go
to CO two Coalition dot org COtwo Coalition dot Org, just search for
Midwest and get that information and shareit with your friends. They You'll be

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amazing you can. That's specific datafor where you are right now, Gary,
and you your listeners are going toget that this is a resource for
them. And if anybody wants physicalcopies of the publication, would be happy
to send thirty or fifty or eightyor one hundred. If you have an

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organization, Gary, We'd love todistribute this out out in Saint Louis.
In fact, I was I've justmade the I was going to come to
Saint Louis. I was asked tospeak at the Phillish Slathley Council Eagle Council
coming up in mid September. I'mjust my time just won't allow me traveling

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there. I was hoping we could, we could get together to a live
interview on your station. But ohthat would be fun. Uh yeah,
yeah, I've got this queued uphere. This is dated seven seventeen,
twenty twenty three, so from lastmonth. America Midwest and Climate Change.
Life in America's bread basket is goodand getting better. The opening paragraph assertions

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by the fourth US National Climate Assessmentthat the American Midwest will suffer negative effects
some catastrophic from climate change are scientificallyinvalid and contrary to reality, highly qualify.
Professionals of the CO two coalition arrivedat this conclusion after a careful review
of real world data and NCA four'sresearch methodologies and finding a lot of this

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is how they conduct the study.Isn't that correct? And the flawed data
that derives from how they conduct thestudy. It is, But a lot
of it comes from climate models predictionsand what they think will happen. And
they're over the models are grossly overpredicting the temperatures that we're going to see

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and we're not seeing any. Allof the things are predicting to go catastrophically
wrong is not happening. Shouldn't wesee some should not we see if agriculture
is going to fail because of risingtemperatures, well, temperature has been rising
for more than three hundred years.Shouldn't we see some effect from that?
We don't we see? Agricultural Inthe Midwest where you are, corn and

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soybeans are the two biggest crops andboth are just breaking records year after year
after year. And part of themethodology they used too is in this report,
we went through and We looked athow they make modifications to the actual
temperature measurements. And what they dois, we expose they actually adjust the

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data, and they adjust the olderdata they adjust downward to make a cooler
the recent data, I think it'sfrom nineteen eighty four onwards, they adjust
it upwards. What does that mean? That means a trend of warming is
accentuated and exaggerated, where the rawdata, the raw data show actually a
decline in temperature. We show thatin the report. Here's the raw data,

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here's the adjusted data. And that, boys and girls, is how
you turn a decline in temperatures intoa slight increase. And so they manipulate
the data doing that. But themain thing is that they is this projection
of what might happen in the futurebased on flaw climate models. We need

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to expose these people for who theyare. And I can't tell you why
they're doing it, but they are. As a scientist, I can say,
here's what they're telling you, andhere's what the facts in the data
show. And they're oftentimes nearly alwaysa huge contrast between truth and what they're

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saying. The CO two Coalition dotorg is the website The man is Gregory
Wrightstone, executive director of that CEOtwo Coalition, also author of the great
book Inconvenient Facts, The Science thatAl Gore does Not want you to know,
and our guests this morning. Thankyou as always, mister Wrightstone,
great stuff. All right, thanksfor having me on. Let's do it

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again. You bet you up upnext on the other side, my friend
Karen Cataline, the host of somethingcalled Spouting Off, and boy the lady
does that. We'll have an examplecoming right up. Gary Jeffing for Jamie
Allman on one oh four nine toPatriot, The All New one O four

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nine The Patriots, I get it. The Allman Brothers on Jamie Allman Show,
I get it. That's kind ofcool. Since I'm Gary Jeff Walker,
maybe we should have the Walker Brothersfind the Walker Brothers Alex for the
next leadion. Oh my, itsays seven thirty seven on a Wednesday morning,

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one oh four nine to Patriot.Real talk for you, and boy,
it doesn't get any more real whenit comes to talking than this next
guest. She has been a favoriteof mine for a long time. In
fact, I love talking to thislady so much. I do it when
I'm not on the air. Mywife and I will have conversations routinely with

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her and her husband Scott joining usnow is the host of spouting off.
Someone I just absolutely adore and lovetalking to. Karen Cataline Karen, good
morning, Oh my god, GaryJeff Walker. Either I need hip boots
or I am deeply flattered. I'mnot sure wish well. I mean,

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they don't have to be mutually exclusive, Karen. You could have hip boots
and be flattered at the same time. You have the talent. You have
the talent to do both simultaneously,That's right, or at least give it,
give it a good stab. SoI wanted to. I know that
you and I talked and you getso so fed up with politics all the

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time, and yet our conversations generallyfocus on them because of our disbelief at
what continues to happen in this countryand why more people aren't just up in
arms. I'm not talking about angryor you know, anything inciting a riot.
But you and I have spoken manymany times on various subjects, and

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all all it takes is for normalpeople just to go no, you are
not allowed to do this, andto say it in unison and with one
loud voice, and so many peoplejust shrug their shoulders and go, well,
they're doing it again, and youknow, we're at that We're at
that point right now with a formerpresident which is obviously indicted over his expression

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of his freedom of speech, andnow they want to limit his freedom of
speech as he goes on trial.And it's just so ironically beautiful. It's
beautiful kismet that they are so obviousin their efforts to restrict someone's right to
speak freely in this country. Andas my point, and as the point

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many people have made over and overKaren Cataline, is that this is not
about it is to them, it'sabout Donald Trump. To all of us,
it is the canary in the coalmine. It's about each and every
one of us. Is it not? Yes? And you don't have you

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don't You don't have to be seeThat's why I ask them yes or no
question. You don't have to bea You don't have to be a supporter
or someone who voted for Donald Trumpto be outraged offense by this, do
you. Yeah? Well, letme first make one comment about the It's
so hard and yet we feel weneed to do it to assess the political

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and emotional temperature of three hundred millionpeople, and all we can do is
speculate because there's no dog on wayto do that. I think there is
growing pushback in a variety of areas. Target, Wiser, Disney, you
name, it is one of theprime ways people are pushing back. I

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don't think it's a fifty fifty country, but then that's just speculation. I
had a friend say half the countrythinks this, and half the country thinks
that. I said, no,I couldn't back it up with any stats,
and I wouldn't trust him if Icould. But I don't think we're
a fifty fifty country. I thinkwe're more of a seventy thirty country.

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And whenever countries have been taken overby totalitarianism and God forbid, you know
all the things that we grew upknowing that we were profoundly against, no
matter what side we were on theaisle, it's always been by a very
small number of people trying to controland manipulate and subvert millions of people.

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Sadly it's been done. We havea formidable, formidable job on our hands
because of technology, because of theease with which people are corrupted, but
you got to balance it out byrecognizing the winds. And there was a
win I had on my show spattingOff yesterday. I never in my life

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played a two and a half minuteaudio, and this was of an independent
woman who always thought of Trump asa douche bag. I don't know,
if you saw that video, who'skind of obscure in a way, maybe
it'll go viral. I don't know. There's a woman who's driving in her
car just putting out a video.I don't think she's famous. And those

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are the people we want to hearfrom much more often than we do,
she said after two and a halfminutes. And it was all great that
she hated Trump, she loathed them, despised them. And now with this
vendetta that seems totally out of control, totally ridiculous, especially against the backdrop
of the kinds of crimes that thisradical left not only tolerates, but even

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encourages. That's my editorial edition.She's beginning to wonder if Trump was right
all along, and that is themost most obvious thing that any still thinking
individual would think. Well, Karen, help home. Many times have you
and I based on our previous conversationsabout previous news stories going back to and

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including an especially the COVID scammed emicthat was perpetrated on the entire world three
years ago, and we were calledconspiracy theorists, We were called loons,
crazy people, persecuting people for havingasked questions. Even now there are things

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about we are not allowed to discuss. Go ahead, I'm sorry because it's
misinformation according to them, when allthey fed us was misinformation or no information
at all. They treated us likemushrooms, which means, of course,
they keep you in the dark endfeed you you know what. And that's

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exactly what they did with COVID nineteenand the mask mandates and the lockdowns and
every designed strictly to control us,not to control the disease. And they
lied about the origins of it,and we recalled conspiracy theorists when we questioned
when they said it probably was anatural virus. These kinds of when these

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kinds of patterns do not repeat innature. It was obviously designed in a
lab, It obviously escaped from Wuhan, and we obviously up to and including
Phony Fauci, participated in the gainof function research that led to this.
Yeah, it's the fox guarding thechicken house, or what I like to

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say, the arsonists are in controlof the fire brigade. I think we
all could name the list of subjectsabout which we will be punished, persecuted,
bullying, intimidated, if we dareto disagree, if we dare to

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even bring it up, if wedare to talk about it and say I'm
not buying it, which was,of course an instill is the cornerstone of
American civilization, American the way thatthis country was founded and on which we
are based. And my addition tothat would be, whenever they tell you

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there are certain subjects and it's agrowing list of subjects, you can you
could tick them off on one hand, although they are growing, Jay six,
Ukraine War, COVID, the election. You know exactly what you are
not allowed to talk about anything likethat. You should immediately suspect that the

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narrative that they're pushing is the lie, because they cannot allow disagreement. And
this is totalitarianism, pure and simple. Sadly, young people and people of
all ages have been dumbed down,some of them anyway, to believe that
words are dangerous and violence is freespeech. It's precisely the opposite, because

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we're living in an alternative universe.Alternate universe, I should say, yes,
yes, and alternative universe. Maybeit depends on what you're listening to
on your car stereo at any givenmoment. Yeah, I want I need
to take a break real quick,Karen, and we'll come back and we'll

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chat about something else, all right, Okay, sure? How about that
one oh four nine of Patriot GaryJeff and for Jamie Ullman and at seven
forty six break and in back morewith k K Karen Cataline spouting off this
morning, tell you what we hadAllman Brothers last break for Jamie Alman and

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Gary Jeff Walker in for Jamie.I have the Walker Brothers right here.
The sun ain't gonna shine anymore.That's hopeful. It's only fair, right,

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wait for it, wait for ithopefully is all right? That's another
joining us for the next few minutes. Again, my friend Karen Catalin spout
off in a brand new market forme and I guess you've been on the

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air in Saint Louis before, butit's great to have you this morning.
KK. You said you think youbelieve and you don't have any facts or
data to back this up that youthink we're a seventy thirty country. In
other words, seventy percent of thepeople in this country you believe, believe
in freedom, believe in the rightto self government, believe in all of

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those things. But we're not veryvocal. There is a very, very
vocal minority in this country that seemsto be getting their way at every turn
on every topic and subject. Inever was a big soccer fan, Okay,
I had a brother who is stillat sixty still playing soccer competitively because

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well he's an idiot and he likesto be injured. But but and the
first time the women won the WorldCup, it was kind of cool,
you know, and then they repeated. But it's hard for me to work
up much excitement at all for thisgroup led by Megan Rapino. And it's

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not just the usual conservative angst forme. It's like I really didn't care
that much to begin with. Nowshe's given me and they've given me reason
not to care at all that theywere beaten by Sweden in the World Cup
match and now they're out. Becausehere's my thing. You're entitled as an

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American to have any opinion you want, but when you are wearing the colors
of the USA, when you aresupported by a national foundation, and you
are propped up in the way thatthe USA women have been over the past

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twenty years, because if you don'tsupport them, you're not only thumbing your
nose at the most popular sport inthe world, but you're thrumbing your nose
at women who have accomplished great things. But I cannot get behind. And
many people felt this way too,Karen. When the news came that they
had lost their match against Sweden,it's like, well, good, because

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you know what they don't They don'tlove the USA. Why are they even
wearing our uniform? How did youfeel about any of that or did you
choose not to care like me?Well, I you know, there are
a lot of things these days Ichoose not to care about. However,
I did see this story. Idid see the whole brouhaha about how she

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laughed when she lost. Now theleft that is always propping up their mouthpieces
and their minions are saying, thisis why she laughed, and this is
why. Because they're all about appearancesof political acceptance, they don't care if
there really is, as long asit appears so. So I mostly took

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note of the fact that this isyet another example of the level of blowback
against people who kneel for the nationalanthem, who cheer on true rioters and
criminal types, who want to shutdown other people's opposition, who want to

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push down our throat their values underthe name of tolerance, which is the
exact opposite of what that is.Who tell us that mastectomies for twelve year
olds is a great idea, andI really think it's even more than seventy.
The fact is that the kind ofpublic blowback is the best weapon,

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if you will, against this kindof thing that everyday people have, because
the way that they corrupt our institutionsis to simply corrupt at the top and
force their way down. This iswhat they did in the Alphabet agencies,
FBI, CIA or whatever. It'snot that the whole rank and file were

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corrupt, it's that they corrupted theleaders at the top. They're doing the
same thing, which is heartbreaking,heartbreaking, and the military and the police.
If they can corrupt the leaders andeither bribe, bully, or blackmail
them into doing what they want,then they'll weed out the patriots. That's
what they do. So the publicis watching this quite clearly, and they're

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using the blowback to express their discontentbecause the amount of censorship and suppression of
opposition is becoming I'm going to usethe word I don't always use horrific in
the United States of America to suppressopposition, to make it in style,

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to put down anybody who disagrees withyou, and even punish them with banking,
with taking away their job. Imean, this is hardcore old Soviet
Union. I mean, that's whatit is. We used to wonder how
could they do that? How couldpeople be whispering behind closed doors what they

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really think because they're terrified someone's goingto find out what they really think.
This is an anathema to America andit's and I have to have compassion for
my fellow ordinary citizens because you canfeel very, very alone when you see
the exploitation and the corruption and themassive way it's everywhere. It's in Hollywood,

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it's in sports, it's in banking, it's in corporations. Then you
begin to feel really small, whichis exactly how they want, is to
feel significant. When Joe Biden talksabout finishing the job, I know what
it means, and putting the bossnail in the coffins eat. If he

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even knows what it means, Idon't know. I call him the presidential
potted plant. And guess what,As an American, I'm allowed to think
it. I'm allowed to say it. And other people are too, and
they are making their voices heard withtheir wallets and every other way. And

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I just think, you know,I have never in my life seeing such
a litmus test for conscience in allmy life than the times in which we
are living now? Are they trulygoing to let us have our voices when
it comes to election day and we'renot allowed to talk about that? Isn't
that a paradox? We're not allowedto talk about having a voice at the

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ballot box? Isn't that a paradox? Doesn't that mean they don't think we
should have one? No, theyabsolutely do not want us to have one.
And they are going to the group. Yeah, this is a group
that would never cheat an election.They don't believe we deserve a voice.

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But those people, how dare youthink that they might cheat an election?
The Democrats, The Democrats, theDemocrats, invented cheating in elections. They
have done it for you. Goback to nineteen sixty Chicago and Mayor Richard
J. Daley, for God's say, yes, and they even admit to

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that. And yes, they evenadmit to that, but it's taken fifteen
plus years for them to admit toit. And it's kind of like the
dear Rush Limbough said their drive bys. They keep denying and denying and denying
and denying until it no longer matters. And then it doesn't matter what you
think because the damage has been done. So and don't forget they squawked about

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every time they lost. They're notallowed to lose. We're not allowed to
win? Or is the Allen Parsonsproject heads I win, tails, you
lose. Karen, thank you somuch, especially for the other Parsons Project
reference. I love that Karen Cataline. You can find her Karen Kataleen dot
com spouting off and more. Thankyou. I'm Gary Jeff Walkern for Jamie

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Ullman and Jack Cashim coming up rightafter the break. You're on one oh
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