All Episodes

May 26, 2023 • 40 mins
Dr. Bob Onder joins us this hour to tells us about the upcoming church reorginzation.
Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:05):
Good morning everybody in Happy Fancy Friday. And to my point with Mark cation
earlier, it was in full blownexhibition on PBS, and my point was,
it's shocking to me how liberals andminorities and even gay ones are transgendered

(00:28):
ones, black Hispanic Asian can getbehind bigoted, wicked movements like the violent
element of the transgender community or theanti women approach to transgender individuals in athletics

(00:50):
and beyond. So here you haveand you guys know the story of the
La Dodgers. So they they weredid a great job. When it came
to Pride Night, they said,you have We're gonna have Pride Night,
all right, but we're not goingto have the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence because
they hate Catholics and Christians and exhibitit every time they get out there.

(01:11):
They have contests like the Honky Jesusor Foxy Mary, and they mock the
Crucifixion, and they dressed like horrornuns, if there is such a thing,
by the way, nuns and horrormakeup. And they and so the
LA Dodgers, and we're not gonnawe don't want to include them in here

(01:33):
because that would kind of drive downthe whole reputation of Pride Night. It
would kind of diminish Pride Night becauseif you're so proud, why are you
Why would you want to engage inassociating with bigots? So, I mean,
that makes all the sense in theworld. So what happens? I
mean on PBS you have a hispanicCheckers the anchor talking to a black guy,

(02:00):
both saying that the La Dodgers werebrilliant to include the bigots in the
Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. Fancy thatsee in the context of legislation being passed
lately by conservative states to specifically targettrans people. Do you think the Dodger's

(02:21):
decision to now include the Sisters ofIndulgence charity is more poignant? Yeah,
of course she calls it a charity. It might be a charity, but
it's stocked with a bunch of antiCatholic bigots. But isn't that funny?
The woke people constantly get into asituation where they go into a buzz saw

(02:43):
called common sense, and it makesno sense at all for them to attach
themselves to these crazy groups because itdemeans them. But where would you how
is it possible we get to asituation where we have blacks, Hispanics,
Asians, and the liberal side allsupporting bigots. That's pretty crazy. Hey,

(03:06):
good morning, This morning, Bobunder welcome to the show. Is
speaking of Catholics. We have abig announcement coming tomorrow from the archdiocese and
it is the parish reorganizations. Senator, thanks for being on with us,
and you have a few things tosay about what is coming here. And
we've talked about this before, sowhile what are we expecting here and what

(03:30):
are your issues with it? Yeah, Jamie, thanks for having me back.
Well, Jamie, the bigger contextfor your audience, because after all,
not all of your audience is Catholic, but I think every one of
your listeners should be concerned about thedevastating effect that this so called all things

(03:53):
new reorganization of the Archdiocese of SaintLouis will have. You know, Alexus
to Toqueville talked about, uh,the strength of America being in its churches
and unfortunately, in January twenty twentytwo, Archbishop Rosamski announced plans for a
radical reorganization of the Archdiocese of SaintLouis. In which probably ninety of one

(04:18):
hundred and seventy eight parishes over halfwould be eliminated, would be merged,
but ultimately would be would be closed. UM. And this is really going
to going would be devastating, UMto many many close knit communities where the
whole community life everything from uh,you know, from baptisms to marriages,

(04:42):
to funerals to baseball games. Oftenin rural areas. UM, the church,
the local church is the center ofthe community. UM. So over
the last oh, you know,year and a half, there have been
a number of iterations of all thingsnew, or as a lot of people
call it, all things terrible.But the final version will be announced on

(05:08):
on Sunday, Pentecost Sunday, alittle bit sacrilegiously, I believe, and
tomorrow Saturday, priests will learn theirtheir new assignments. And I'll tell you
what's going to happen is a lotof priests are going to be shuffled around,
a lot of priests will be willannounce that they will be told that
they'll no longer be pastors. Alot of parishes will learn that they you

(05:32):
know, they've had their own priestoverseeing their sacraments and their spiritual life,
they will learn that they'll be sharingone priest with one or two or more
other parishes. Um, this isgoing to be devastating. It's probably going
to starve dozens and dozens and dozensof churches of resources, and it really

(05:59):
needs to be opposed, and someof us are working really hard to stop
that. What do you think isthe I'm going to ask you exactly what
you guys can do about it,But what do you think is the motivation
behind this? Truly? So,Jamie, I wish I knew. I
wish I knew, and I've reachedout repeatedly to the archdiocese, to Archbishop

(06:24):
Rozanski, to the Vicar for astrategic planning, Chris Martin into the Chancery
Office. I and others from Saveour Saint Louis Parishes, which is so
OSTLP dot org have repeatedly reached outto the archdiocese asking them why they mumble

(06:45):
things about pre shortage. But thenFather Chris Martin has admitted that right now
we really don't have a pre shortage. Good young men get turned away from
Kennrick Glennon Seminary every year for youknow, for various pretenses. We don't
have a pre shortage right now.We certainly don't have a financial crisis.

(07:05):
The finances in the Archdiocese of SaintLouis are really very, very good,
I'll tell you. Around the country, and many dioceses have done these all
things new type reorganizations, I callthem dismemberments. But most of those have
been parishes that had severe financial issues, often bankruptcy because of the clergy sex

(07:30):
abuse crisis and the bishops cover upof that sex abuse situation in their diocese.
Thanks be to God, none ofthose things are the case in St.
Louis. So why Archbishop Ruzynski,who's relatively new to town, would
come and hire a Philadelphia consulting firmto dismantle our archdiocese as if we were

(07:54):
in bankruptcy with essentially no transparency andreally in flagrant violation of church law canon
law. Why to me, thatis the you know, one hundred million
dollar question, And I don't knowthe answer to it. Well. I
know that some of the parishes thatare still relatively vibrant, that also have

(08:18):
Latin masses are specifically targeted in thereorganization. I know that, absolutely,
absolutely, absolutely absolutely, you know, in my own County, Saint Charles
County, Saint Barnabas had a youknow, had a had a very active
but growing um population of Latin massgoing in Catholics. Um. Father Linas

(08:41):
from the Saint Louis Abbey Priory wasgoing there and acting as their pastor and
Saint Mass for them on Sunday.That is being shut down. That laftin
Mass in the fastest growing county inthe state, Saint Charles County, has
been shut down. My own,my own church, Saint Johnic Catholic Church,

(09:01):
in fifteen years, talk about vibrant. We went from non existing to
growing to five hundred and forty families. We acquired twenty five acres of land,
built a beautiful church, and havepaid off our debt and have a
nice strong cash balance in the bank. We've actually given the Archdiocese of Saint
Louis three priestly vocations, the thirdof whom Jacob Wessel is going to be

(09:26):
ordained tomorrow, and my wife,my family and I will be there to
celebrate that occasion. Saint Gehanna ison the chopping block. The plan there
is to merge us with Immaculate Heartof Mary and New Melly turn away both
of the pastors, Father Tim andFather Tom, who have been taken care
of their flocks out in our countySaint Charles, and bringing a new pastor

(09:50):
who will be really strange to evencover masses and confessions of baptisms and funerals,
you know, much less administer toand new church churches they may have
never stepped foot in before. Soum, it's really, it is really
a wrong headed move. Um.On the tenth of May, I acting

(10:11):
as procurator for for over three thousandSaint Louis Catholics who oppose this all things
terrible reorganization plan, we petitioned thearchdiocese and petitioned Rome to put a halt
to this devastating scheme to reorganize theirdiocese. You know, I hope the

(10:33):
archbishop takes us seriously, and Ihope Rome takes us seriously. Uh.
First, one quick question, youmean Father Tom Miller because because he's he's
on this show every week Thursday mornings, and as a dear friend of mine
and I haven't really actually talked hibouthim about this, but he is a

(10:54):
beloved pastor at the Immacuant Heart ofMary. And on top of that what
a particular insult. It is SaintCharles County, which has a deep Catholic
heritage going back to when the Spanishoccupied the area there, and uh that
that is deeply disturbing that they wouldstart going after such a vibrant community,

(11:20):
Catholic community that has an amazing heritagethere too. Yes, yes, yeah,
right, Jamie. You know,even if you thought it was a
good idea, on which I certainlydo not to say. Okay, Immaculate
Heart of Mary in New Mely andSaint Gianna, you know, should should
share a pastor. You know,we're both growing, we're both both vibrant,

(11:43):
we're both financially solvent. There's noreason to eliminate either one of us.
But even if you thought that schemewas a good idea, one of
the most sensible choice for pastor eitherbe Father Tom Miller or Father tim Elliot,
who's at Saint Gianna right now.Wouldn't that makes sense? The new
priest would only have to get toknow one new church, not to know
that all indications are that both FatherTom Miller and Father tim Elliott will be

(12:09):
gone. I believe Father tim Elliottwas. They offered him a pastorship in
another county, many many, manymiles over an hour drive away from his
current assignments. So they're I mean, honestly, they are doing destructive things.
It seems just for the sake ofbeing destructive, because their original plan

(12:30):
was to eliminate ninety parishes and itlooks like they're just buy a more convoluted
and I might order, I mightsay, almost deceptive way trying to get
to the same place of eliminating halfthe churches. And archdiocese. Well,
I know a pastor who is beingremoved and they said, we're going to

(12:52):
move you over here, but youcan't take your dog with you. Yeah,
And the pastor told the archdiocese poundsand and is now retiring and he's
an awesome yeah. Well the pastyeah, yeah, many times, many
times, that's the kind of thingthey're doing. I know. In another
case, there was a situation wherepriests priests mother, which is actually not

(13:13):
that unusual, was living with himand he was taking care of her in
the rectory. They offered him theopportunity to stay, but you've got to
get rid of your mother, andhe retired. So, yes, many
there are many of these forced retirementsfor all they're moaning about a priest shortage.
On the one hand, they arerejecting good young men who are coming

(13:35):
to the seminary with vocations. Onthe other hand, they're forcing excellent priests
out in a lot of sometimes downrightcruel and almost bullying type ways, like
the case you just cited. Interestingly, we have done a survey of the
priests of the archdiocese um At fortytwo percent of the priests responded to the

(13:56):
survey. Only thirteen percent think AllThings New as a good idea. You
know, about about eighty five percentthink that it's a bad idea, that
it will decrease mass attendance, itwon't serve the participation of the laity,
you won't help the homebound, andseventy six believe it will drive people away

(14:20):
from the faith. Quite a fewpriests express concerned that they were they feared
bullying or intimidation if they didn't goalong with All Things New. This is
devastating. I mean, I don'tthink the Archbishop Razanski could find New Melly
or Saint Gianna on a map,and yet he's undertaking to destroy our archdiocese,
at least radically alter it well andin that sense. I mean,

(14:43):
I knew this was you. Yousaw the writing on the wall. I
think particularly crass was the approach toall this, which was they made parishers,
parishioners and others do these surveys,which basically was a to trick them
into basically signing their own death warrant. Yeah, Jamie, that's yeah,
that's survey. They called it theDisciple Maker Index. It asked questions like,

(15:07):
how often you go to church,do you believe in this or that
church doctrine? Do you you know, do you ever invite a family or
friends to church? And so on? None of that had anything to do
with whether a church should be closed, consolidated, or extinctively eliminated. Um,
none of it, did you know? They bragged that they have seventy

(15:28):
thousand responses to that, but therewere no questions about you think it would
be a good idea that your churchbe eliminated. In fact, it's the
churches that knew they were in thesights of the archdiocese that had the highest
response rates. And I guarantee youPaul was saying Gianna had a very high
response rate to that Disciple Maker inIndex survey. I guarantee it. Ninety

(15:50):
eight percent of us would have saidno to All Things New. In fact,
we have many of us have writtenletters to the archbishop. So yeah,
that whole disciple maker index. No, it's like like they conducted some
sort of poll. Do you thinkall Things New as a good idea?
They just did this very big generalsurvey. We all thought it was to,
you know, help identify areas wherewhere a church of parish family could

(16:14):
improve, and instead it's just kindof like just like window dressing. Oh,
we did this survey, so wegot people's input. They did not
get their people's input on All ThingsTerrible whatsoever? Jamie. Well, and
you know, I mean it seemsto me too just geographically. It's whether
it be the Latin mass places orothers. It seems like they're picking on
places that are predominantly more conservative andthat and that's disturbing on a number of

(16:41):
different levels. And as you mentionedat the very beginning here, Senator Bob
Otter, is is that is isthat this should matter to everybody of faith
and even people who aren't of faith. And I'm gon talking about Catholic faith
because because a church like if Ihad my choice as to where I live,
I would want to live around aCatholic church, synagogue, mosque or

(17:04):
whatever any day. Becautely absolutely well, Jamie, you grew up in you
city. Yeah, probably grew upwithin walking distance of a synagogue. Um.
No, there's no question. Thechurches, synagogues, mosques, shrines
are the are really the center ofour communities. In many cases, before

(17:26):
Saint Johnna, my my my churchwas Saint Joseph's and Josephhille. Saint Joseph's
and Josephville was the heart of thatcommunity. Same with Saint Paul, same
with many in Saint Genevieve, especiallyin rural areas, the church, in
the local school is the center ofthe community. You closed down that church,

(17:49):
or you closed down that local publicschool, you devastate those communities.
And when I was in the legislature, my rural colleagues which tell me that
you know, sure, Senator,it sounds good to merge these churches,
but are these schools. But itwill destroy the local community, will destroy
everything we have. And I fearthat the archdiocese is treating our churches,

(18:14):
gosh, one of our most preciousresources, as if they were just boxes
on an organizational chart. And andthey say, if we moved these boxes
around and every parish had fifteen hundredfamilies or more, things would be better
and all things would be new.Well, I mean, that's that's I
think that's wrongheaded. And if theywant to go move in this direction,
why don't they do a pilot projectwith you know, four or five churches,

(18:37):
uh, and not not an experimentwith one hundred and seventy eight parishes
our entire archdiocese. Well, andand there there are there were certain places
and and and I think, youknow, they they kind of brought this
on themselves. I get it wherewhere you know, there are a lot
of people I send their kids tothe Catholic school, but don't actually go
to the church or support the church. And there are people who aren't going

(19:00):
to church, you know at all. Um. And I think ultimately COVID
was devastating because you know, peoplecould watch watch it on TV. And
then when the TV and they gotthey got out of the habit of going.
Uh. And so so some people. But but but the places that
you're mentioning are places that are veryvibrant. Uh. And my goodness,

(19:25):
it's that's not right, Well,that's right. You mentioned that that Latin
mass parishes seem to be targeted moreif you will, conservative parishes, um,
may where there are a lot ofhomeschoolers seem to be targeted, and
then rural parishes seemed to be targeted. Um. Look, they seem to
have the model that unless you havefifteen hundred or more families, you're you're

(19:49):
a bad parish and you ought tobe closed. And that's just nonsense.
I mean, you and I havemany friends who go to evangelical churches where
maybe they meet in someone's lip grow, maybe they live meet in a small
strip strip mall, and maybe theirtheir flock is maybe twenty or thirty or
fifty parishes. But here the archbishopin the in the chancery office are look

(20:12):
looking down their nose at at aparish the like that has, like Saint
John A five hundred forty families andis growing. Um. So it's just
in the in the fastest growing areaof the entire state. By the way,
um, you know one one otherrevealing uh fact from the priest survey.

(20:33):
Um. Let's see, well,how to let me be careful how
I say this, um, Butbasically eighty nine percent of priest surveyed did
not believe that the archbishop has anadequate understanding of the needs UH and the
situation in our archdiocese to be doingsomething like this. Um that's you know,

(20:56):
when your brother priests, when ninetypercent of your brother priests say you
don't know what you're doing, maybeyou ought to show a little humility,
step back and reconsider things. Look, I don't mean to be antagonistic against
the Archbishop. I have been reachingout to him repeatedly, as have other
members of Save our Saint Louis parishessince the summer, and not a return

(21:21):
phone call, not a return toemail, not a returned letter. We
pray. I pray for the archbishopevery day. We all pray for the
archbishop every week at Mass. Ijust pray that he, you know,
he'd be given the wisdom and theunderstanding to see that a scheme that's going
to result, as Father Chris Martinadmitted, result in twenty percent or more

(21:47):
of the lay faithful, that that'snot good for the services of souls,
it's not good for evangelization, andit's not good for our broader community in
the Saint Louis area. Yeah,I was. I was part of part
of my skepticism not only comes fromobviously what you've been saying. I was
actually working for the archbishop when thefirst parish reorganization happened, and I know

(22:14):
for a fact that it was corrupt, because I'll give you a quick example
here before we have to go.But you know, there was a there
was a situation where Pious the Fifth, which is right there on Grand was
slated to close and Holy Family wasgoing to stay open because it had a
great school, and it was rightin the middle of a neighborhood, you
know it was, it was rightdown own the street. And I know

(22:36):
for a fact that at the lastminute the deanery that was in charge of
deciding that switched reverse their decision,kept Pious the Fifth open and then closed
Holy Family. It was a devastating, terrible act. Those people in that

(22:59):
neighborhood have never gone back to churchand and it destroyed that neighborhood, the
home values, the schools, everythingelse, and Pious the Fifth state open.
And it just so happens that thehead of the deanery committee was also
the pastor at Pious the Fifth.So I mean that's I mean, I
was there. I know for afact that that's how it went down,

(23:22):
so well, I could we couldgive you a lot of examples of similar
situations where politically connected pastors were ableto, you know, keep their parishes
held harmless, untouched by all thingsnews devastation. Whereas yeah, whereas as
vibrant or more vibrant parishes are shutdown again. Father Chris Martin admits that

(23:48):
twenty percent of Catholics will be lostto and all things new type re organization
around the country. That numbers upto sixty five percent of Catholics who just
don't go back, either because they'redisillusioned or in many cases, in say
in rural areas or even in suburbanareas. You know, an elderly person
might be able to drive four orfive blocks to their church, but they

(24:12):
can't get on the highway and drivefifteen or twenty miles. They just can't
because of their vision or their doctortells them to stay off the highway or
whatever. This is going to bedevastating, and at a time where we
struggle. Yes, after COVID,the archdioces shut down our churches, I
believe for no good reason. Bythe way for months and months because of

(24:33):
COVID, and that resulted in abouta twenty percent loss in mass attendance.
Some parishes, like my own haverebounded and are above pre COVID levels,
but many are not. It justseems like the archdiocese went out of their
way to decrease participation of lay Catholicsin the life of the church, and
now they're now they're doing it again. Yeah, it's just sad. It's

(24:57):
very sad, and just anecdotal.I'll offer up something that might actually provide
a slight defense of Rozanski, andthat is I remember when Holy Family closed,
I was begging, I begged ArchbishopBurke at the time to make the
decision to keep it open and givethem a chance. And this was not

(25:18):
Archbishop Burke's fault. A person whois the archbishop and trusts a great deal
and maybe wrongly so, in thesecommittees and in these organizations below him,
in the Chancery for instance, andrelies on these people to make these decisions,
presumably because they know more about thearchdiocese than the bishop does, because

(25:45):
he's the administrator here and doesn't andit has come from someplace else, and
so they put an unusual amount oftrust in these people, and that's where
sometimes I think the mistakes are made. Sure, it's a lot like the
permanent bureaucracy, the deep state inyeah, you know Jefferson Cider or Washington
d C. I mean we allhave to delegate. I mean, I'm

(26:07):
in my own medical practice right now, I have to delegate a great many
things to trusted assistance. Yeah,but there does seem to be this pattern
all over the country, but especiallyin diocese that are devastated by the sex
abuse crisis, that somehow there's thisfeeling that the answer is to uh close
you know, half of the parishesnow. In some cases in other dioceses

(26:32):
back East, that might be necessarybecause of bankruptcy, but it's certainly not
necessary in Saint Louis. So ifit isn't broke, don't fix it,
especially when the salvation of souls isin jeopardy. Right on. Well,
Senator Bob Honter really appreciate you joiningus. How do we do you guys
have a website or anything? Okay, yes, yes, s O STLP

(26:57):
dot org, Save our Saint LouisParishes dot org and about you and uh
to at least at least two orthree dozen parishes have appointed their own procurator
and are going to be submitting theirown petition opposing all things new. So
um, so go to so ostlpdot org and um, you know,

(27:21):
uh send us an email and we'lltry to get you, get you in
touch with the person in your parishwho's organizing the effort to save your parish.
All right, friend, great talkingto you, wishing you a blessed
Memorial Day weekend, and uh,thanks a ton and good luck and we'll
we'll be keeping keeping tabs on things. Maybe talk to you next week.

(27:42):
Well, Jamie, continue to prayfor our archbish, have a great weekend,
sure will. All right, thankyou, my friend. That is
a center Bob Oder. Yeah,crazy, a lot of story. I
can tell you a lot of storiesabout how this stuff goes down. Man,
it's crazy. Three one, four, five, six, six,
sixty one oh four. It's commonsense radio. Well, ladies, you

(28:10):
know about on this fancy Friday,all in the morning, it's common sense
radio. Jimmy, allman here,the America's favorite dumb couple had a really
interesting day yesterday. Um. Thedumb man of the house is he Calvern
Representative Calhoun assure coming out here,McCollum, and I want to thank you
all. Yeah, down's just thecongressman who cares. I get it.

(28:36):
It's really hard. And then theother side of the dumb couple had this
to do. I've visited red statesand blue states, and I found that
the common values that unite us aredeeper than our divisions. And um,
I thought you might come for that. Initially, this is at the Ronald

(29:03):
Reagular Institute, and doctor Joe Bidenwas trying to pass off a piece of
nonsensical, meaningless problem to the audience, and they didn't appreciate it because it's
interesting how this is. This is, I mean, this is like she
took a Kamala Harris speech and justdusted it off and try to present it

(29:29):
here because it's something that would comeout of Kamala Harris's mouth, something really
simple like that, because because becausebelieve me, nobody exudes more simpleton qualities
than the Bidens. I've visited redstates and blue states, and I found
that the common values that unite usare deeper than our divisions. And they're

(29:52):
all like, no, you didn'tand you don't even know what that means,
and that is a meaningless statement,and it's something so obvious, and
yet it's typical of what spews outof a lot of politicians. Miles.
Now, I'm not trying to bea negative Nancy about the whole thing,

(30:15):
because I do always would want thatour commonalities are deeper than our divisions.
But that goes without saying we alreadyknow that. In fact, there's nobody
that embodies that policy wise than PresidentTrump. But I think I think what
happened here is that the audience waskind of just like, man, we've

(30:37):
how many times have we heard that? And it's just such a simple statement
to make that. The people justwere like, well, here we go
again. By the way, tosee this, This is Jill Murphy.
She's the Deputy Assistant director of theFBI's of Counterintelligence at the f b I,

(31:00):
and she was in front of theseRepublican lawmakers and this happened. Special
Council Durham assisted that neither US lawenforcement nor the intelligence community appears to have
possessed any actual evidence of collusion intheir holdings at the commencement of the Crossfire
Hurricane investigation, and the Bureau ofsubsequently discounted or willfully ignored material that did

(31:21):
not support the narrative of a collusiverelationship between Trump and Russia. As the
deputy assistant director for the FBI's CounterintelligenceDivision, are you familiar with this report?
I have not read that report,sir. Really, you're you're the
assistant You're deputy assistant director of counterintelligence, and you're telling this room full

(31:45):
of Republicans that you haven't read theDurham report. You have not read the
Durham Report. I have not yetread the Durrham Report. And he sir,
can you can you imagine that thisthis just look at her and hear
her the seething contempt for Americans andfor consequences. This, If that isn't

(32:12):
proof that the FBI is more ofa cabal at the higher levels, I
mean, than an organization committed tohelping Americans, then this, this should
be a great example. This Congressbeen so stunned. He gets Really,
I'm honestly speechless at this point intime. I'm not sure what to think

(32:36):
of this. As someone who hasspent an entire career in counterintelligence, UM
Special Counsel Durham found that the FBImoved too quickly with this investigation of the
twenty sixteen campaign and relied on ungroboratedevidence when launching its investigation. Does this
concern you? I'm sorry? Canyou repeat the question? I mean?
This is? This is brutal andalso in furiating that there was a very

(33:01):
fast pace of the investigation and thatuncorroborated evidence was used when launching the investigation.
Does that concern you? So?Again, sir, I haven't read
the Derham Report, so I'm notsure you know I have no knowledge of
is does this You don't have toread the report to be able to answer

(33:22):
the question? Can you tell howmuch this woman hates you? Fall under
the counterintelligence umbrella the Durham Report,I'm sure portions of it too, Yes,
sir. Does a suggestion or anaccusation of election collusion between a foreign

(33:44):
government and the United States or aperson or an entity in the United States
fall under counterintelligence? Yes, sir, So the alleged collusion between mister Trump
in twenty sixteen and Russia would havefallen under the Counterintelligence Division of the FBI,

(34:06):
Yes, sir. And you havenot read the Durham Report. I
have not read the Durham remport.Is there a reason is it not required
to No, I just haven't hadtime. Yeah, unreal, unreal.
And again, if there's any situationwhere you would expect after the Durham Report,
you think, oh, okay,so there needs to be some hierarchical

(34:30):
type of changes, management style changes, or in the wake of this to
prevent if I'm happening again. TheFBI and specifically this DITS doesn't have any
any concerned at all about it.Miss Murphy, do you actively investigate counterintelligence
with foreign entities around the world,Yes, sir, and this is a

(34:53):
sincere question. Does election collusion worryyou? Yeah? Obviously election collision would
worry me yesterday. Does any maligninfluence to the United States where you Yes,
sir, okay. I would highlyrecommend reading that because we spent four
years discussing that there was uncorroborated evidence. The Durham Report specifically outlines the outcome

(35:20):
of that. It's very disappointing tohear this. Yeah, and I would
recommend you guys install a lever onyour next to your chairs so you can
there's a drop traders like that intoa health fire and move on. You

(35:44):
need to get a contractor to builda health fire underneath the floor of that
hearing room. Good morning, everybody, Happy fancy Friday. This is all
in the morning. It's common senseradio. And I know that the Republicans
who have entered into the fray toface off with President Trump are likely,

(36:05):
you know, they're like look attapes, you know, like football players
do and baseball players do. Theylook at an old tapes maybe if President
Trump debating. And if they dolook at tapes to President Trump debating,
they'll see how easy it is andhow quickly he can just lay somebody out
in a moment's notice. And oneof the great little places to go back

(36:30):
in the memory log is the HillaryClinton and Donald Trump debate. And this
is great loss that enabled him toavoid paying taxes. Did you use that
nine hundred and sixteen million dollars lossto avoid paying personal federal income taxes?
Of course I do. Of courseI do, and so do all of
her donors or most of her donors. I know many of her donors.

(36:52):
I absolutely used it, and sodid Lauren Buslt, and so did George
Soros, and so did many ofthe other people that Hillary is getting money
from. Now she complains that DonaldTrump took advantage of the tax code,
Well why didn't she change it?Why didn't you change it when you were
sending it. The reason you didn'tis it when your friends take the same
advantage. You have provisions in thetax code that frankly, we could change

(37:15):
it, but you wouldn't change itbecause all of these people give you voted.
Yeah, so now you know why. Now you know why there hasn't
been changes uh in the tax codefor decades. And I've told you this
before. You could easily change thesituation regarded the tax code. It could

(37:39):
have been as Ted Cruise recommended,or as Herman Kane recommended. Just on
one card, uh, fifteen percentflat tax, one card, no deductions
because I don't like, I don'tthink there a want to be deductions for
anything, uh, and just haveone flat tax. I don't think like

(38:00):
somebody who is married on to bebetter off than somebody who's single. Why
is there a marriage? Why isthere a better deduction from marriage to whatever
it is or children or what haveyou. So let's just flatten at all.
But they don't do that. Youknow why, because because the federal
income tax from the time it wascreated, which was one of the biggest
boondoggles and treacheries in the history ofthe country. It was designed to be

(38:25):
a pool where the powers at besenators congressmen could use that federal income tax
system to grant favors to their contributorsand play pick winners and losers based on
who would benefit them the most.So they have all kinds of carve outs

(38:46):
in the tax code, all kindsof this, all kinds of that,
and so it's used as basically horsetrading cards, and that's what they do.
They horse trade with the deduction system. And here we're gonna invent this
little carb out here. Of thislittle carb out here. It's a complete
racket that actually the politicians figured outonce they were able to do it,

(39:08):
that it was going to be anongoing, unlimited pot with which they could
reward their friends. And Donald Trumplaid it out there. Now you know
why the deep state everybody else can'tstand him, because he's laid it out
there. And he said, yeah, I use it because I use the

(39:29):
same it's the same thing that allthe donors use it. And he just
says, Hilary, why didn't youchange the code when you had the chance,
and I know why you didn't.It's so your buddies could maintain their
ability to keep funding you. That'show it goes. Good morning, everybody.

(39:51):
One quick thing before we go,and hey, listen, Ron de
Santi's good luck. I think thereare a lot of things to like about
Ron DeSantis and his policies and thingslike that. But dude, you better
watch out. Man. You takesome cheap shots, and I think President
Trump does the same. So butbut but these are a little deeper because

(40:12):
you noticed when he did that withthe Stormy Daniels thing. DeSantis did this
whole you know, sexual assault,rape thing and that kind of and indicate
paying off a prostitute, that kindof stuff. And also be careful because
you don't want to be doing this. Proven to be very strong, you
know. I'm standing up to peoplelike Disney, and with due respect to

(40:34):
the former president, he's taken disneyside in this. Now I'm standing against
Disney. I'm standing for the kids. I'm standing for the parents. I
don't think these kids should be sexualized. So basically accusing President Trump of supporting
sexualizing kids not going to be agood one. Have a Blessing, Memorial
Day, Everybody love you,
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.

24/7 News: The Latest

24/7 News: The Latest

The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.