I'd Like To Say I'll Make It Up To You, But I Don't Trust Me

I'd Like To Say I'll Make It Up To You, But I Don't Trust Me

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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here's your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Mark Weber. I think I'm one of the good guys.
I'm respectful, I'm appreciative. I recognize what's important in life.
I always do the right thing, whether anyone is watching
or not. I'm fair in an unfair world, a world
where faris for kids. I believe in family. I believe
in world working hard and working smart. I believe in

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capitalism and a meritocracy. Work hard, be smart, get what
you do from the work you put in. I believe
in the right to choose and the right to manage.
I have a code I live by. It's black or white,
no gray. If you find gray, you need to know
you're walking through muddy waters. I believe in being a

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jerk or whenever I want to, with the caveat that
I know when I'm behaving poorly. I'm an acquire taste.
Many will like me, others will tolerate me with an asterix.
Others won't like me. It's okay, I get it. I
believe in thine own self be true, like knowing when

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I'm being a jerk, being self aware. I don't like
stupid people who don't know they're stupid, because you can't
reason with them. I do go into every meeting, every
time I meet someone optimistically hoping to like the people.
And this is its spite of myself having little faith
in humans, my reality in all things. If things take

(02:06):
a turn, I'd like to say, I'll make it up
to you, but I don't trust me. See that's the issue.
I'll get to the right place, but maybe I won't
be able to do anything about it. Speaking of which,
you ever think about what you should do but you're
not sure in life or in business. In life, I

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would tell you there are I would say would haves,
could have, should have? Those things that leave you with
sorry or regrets. This line of thinking gets you nowhere. However,
it's different in business. In business, you must make decisions.

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There are things that are nice to do. They're a
good touch, an added benefit, but you can't define the payback.
Is it worth it? Really? Then there are things that
you should do. Those decisions should help the business. They
logically make sense, should be paid back, but you don't

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know if there is, You can't be sure. The question
is should you do it anyway? M You don't have to.
But then there's the lifeblood of decisions. Those things that
are must dos. They're essential, they're crucial. If you don't
do them, you lose position. You may lose your status,

(03:33):
your profit, or your profit potential. If you pass on
that must do, you can end up defeated with disastrous consequences.
You decide you have no choice. Now for me, I
make no apologies. I try for me. I said it
before because of who I am, how I think, my

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view on humans. I'd like to say I'll make it
up to you, but I don't trust me. So tonight
I'm going to cover things that require a moment to
make the right choices and now joining me in right
choices my son, my co host, and my lawyer, Jesse Weber. Hey,

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Jesse Weber.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I feel like I haven't been here forever.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I feel like because you're a big shot, you're a
big shot now. I gotta say. Yahoo, two weeks ago
a headline Joe Rogan pushed from the top ten in
YouTube and why because Jesse Weber became top five. There's

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a photograph all online of Rogan, Jesse Weber, Megan, Kelly,
Tucker Colson. So, now that you've become big time, I
have a couple of quick questions. One, can you still
fit your head in the pillow at night when you
go to the It's booth? Did I still ask you

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for money? How does it feel to beget into any
restaurant without a reservation? Jesse big time?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Ah, well, I appreciate all that. I wish that was true.
I wish that was true. It's an amazing accomplishment. We're
incredibly happy.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, what is true? As you're in the top five.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Top five YouTube podcasts in the country. It was incredible
to see that article. You know, Joe Rogan number two,
we're number five, But no nothing's changed. The only thing
that's changed is the fact that I can't be on
the show as much. That's the problem. But no, I'm
still the same person. Nothing's changed. I have gotten some
great people. I have to have people who reached out.

(05:43):
It's actually funny. You know, I'm a News Nation legal contributor.
Every time I go on News Nation. Now, that's how
they introduce me. They go, he's got the top five podcasts.
He's got the top five podcasts. So it's been great
to see that. And we've gotten a lot of support.
It's surreal.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
The best part about it was, you know what the
best part about it I go to dinner with you
a few days after this happens, and you got a
present for you. You framed the article for me, and
then you framed it. You framed it for yourself too.
You made multiple copies for everybody in the family. That
was You've always been my biggest cheerleader. That was the
sweetest thing.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Of course, you know that is a big deal. I've
been on the radio for seven years podcast seven years
with you without you can't get arrested.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, you know what your problem is. You know what
your problem is? You never did a video podcast. You
have to put it on YouTube. People want to see you.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Uh huh, Peter, can we do that. Our engineer working
on it, working on it.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I think that you've always post things on Instagram. People
like to see you if. I think if they saw
us together, that would be the way that we take
this to YouTube.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Okay, now I have a question. Why don't we explain
why are you so hot? Right now?

Speaker 3 (06:51):
It's all Diddy Diddy's criminal trial in New York Federal Court. Sidebar,
the podcast that I host, We have been doing coverage
every single day, three to four episodes a day, daily recaps,
breaking down some big legal issues that have been happening
in the case, hitting it from different angles, and the
response has been incredible. I mean, one of the things

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we've done is we have been following this story for
the last year and a half two years. Every single
thing there was an update or a lawsuit or an indictment,
we were covering it. We built up that trust in
the audience. People are coming to us now because they
know that we'll give them the information. They rely on us,
they trust our analysis, and it's been great. I think

(07:32):
it came out that we share maybe the top ten
percent of coverage on YouTube when it comes to Ditty.
Think about that. How many people are covering the Ditty
trial right now on YouTube and we're like ten percent
of it. That's massive, that's incredible. How much we have
of the market right now.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
The stuff that's going on in LA right now, it
seems to me that's getting more coverage than anything.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
It's getting a lot of coverage on cable news. It
hasn't affected us. People who are coming to us for
Ditty coverage, people who get their news, their information on YouTube.
It's a very different audience than the cable news space.
While Trump and Elon, while Trump and Elon were fighting
last week and I feel dead, I wasn't on the

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radio with you to talk about that disaster. That hasn't
affected our coverage. People come to us because they're trying
to get away from that. They're very concentrated on specific
topic and that's what we provide to them.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
So what's going on.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I go back and forth with this case. When it
first started, I said, racketeering, sex trafficking, I don't, I
don't see it. Maybe the prostitution charge him bringing people
across state lines, sex workers people for prostitution. I see that,
And then the case changed. You started hearing about arson,
you started hearing about bribery, you started hearing about kidnapping,

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you started hearing more about these sexual episodes, drugs, and
I said, Oh my gosh. The prosecutions building a strong
case that he's running this criminal enterprise. It's racketeering. You're
hearing from these alleged victims. I see where they're going
with sex trafficking. And then the past week and a half,
the prosecution is called a lot of alleged victims and
witnesses who I have to say, maybe some shaky testimony. Now,

(09:16):
on one hand, you could say it benefits the defense
when there's text messages where after they claim they were
abused by Sean Combs, they're speaking, they're talking highly of him,
they're staying in touch with him, they're writing loving messages,
and that might not look good for them. There's one
woman who claims that she was dangled off a seventeen
story balcony and two weeks later she was offering to

(09:37):
buy him a sweatshirt. So, on one hand, the jurors
could say, ah, this doesn't make sense. It's not adding
up they're maybe not telling the truth. The other way
of looking at it is the complicated factors between abusers
and victims. It's not so simple to understand. Sometimes people
can be placed in a position of fear, or sometimes
they can be abused and stay in contact with the

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person who does it to them. It's a very complicated analysis.
And I tell you, for the jeers, when they're ultimately
handed this case in four weeks or so, I think
they're going to deliberate for days upon days upon days.
It is not a black and white case. It's very gray.
I think that there's a chance he's going to be
convicted of at least one charge, but at this point

(10:21):
I'm not one hundred percent positive he's going to be
convicted on everything else. It's an interesting prosecution.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Which do you think might be the strongest.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Transportation to engage in prostitution? Literally to prove that, they
have to say that Sean Combs moved sex workers and
alleged victims from one place to the other and paid
them for sex work. There was a one witness who
testified last week. Her testimony alone could prove that. It
doesn't even seem the defense is putting up much of

(10:51):
a fight for that, they might try to say, hey,
how much did he actually pay for them? Was he
paying them for their time and experience? That seems like
a straightforward charge, and by the way, that carries up
to ten years in prison. I wouldn't be surprised if
he's ultimately convicted of that charge. Sex trafficking of Cassandra
Ventura Fine. I think there are two concrete examples of

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that that the prosecution may really want to hone in on,
But it's not a slam dunk case. Racketeering, I would
say there may be seventy five percent there. I think
they need to go a little bit further to try
to show this was a criminal conspiracy, that it was
a criminal agreement, that it was a criminal enterprise. I
don't know if they've gotten there quite. I can see
them checking off certain boxes, but I don't know what

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the jury might be thinking about that yet. Racket racketeering
basically means that Seawan Combs operated a criminal enterprise. Think
of it kind of like the mafia that he and others,
so his assistants, his bodyguards, they all work together to
commit a series of crimes and cover them up. That
he engaged in this pattern of abuse towards women for years,

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And the more you hear testimony from assistants who say,
we knew what our job was. Our job was to
protect him. Our job was to set up these hotel
rooms for these sexual episodes. Our job was to protect
them at all costs. The more you hear about underlying
crimes like allegedly setting fire to a rival's car, or
kidnapping an employee at gunpoint, or bribing a hotel security

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guard to get footage of him purportedly beating up Cassandra Ventura,
or him or him trying to get one of the
alleged victims to carry drugs for him across state lines,
or him asking people to carry guns for him. The
more you're starting to see the story of him as
an alleged crime boss. And I think they're getting there.
I don't think they've quite got there fully.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I still need to take plenty of information there.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
They have a lot, but to tie it in to
say it was a it's racketeering, conspiracy. Conspiracy is there
has to be a criminal agreement. They all have to
be on the same page. There has to be a
common purpose. They need a little bit more and What
I think they may do is they're waiting to call
This is my guess. They're waiting to call the former
chief of staff of Shawn Combs. She may be the

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connective tissue to tie all of this together, and they
may be sent saving her for last. As she's come
up a lot during the course of this testimony. I
would be surprised if she's not called as a witness.
So we shall see.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
You had Johnny Depp's attorney on you got to know
that guy pretty well during the Depth trial. What did
he have to say?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
He's great, He's great, ben Chu, such a gentleman. He
thinks that there are some concrete examples of sex trafficking
and racketeering. But he also agrees with me that the
defense has done a phenomenal job at cross examining some
of these witnesses. And I think it's two things. One,
they've cross examined some witnesses to basically suggest they're not

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telling the truth about what happened to them, whether they
were attacked by Shawn Combs or sexually assaulted by Shawn Combs.
But the other way of looking at it is there
are some people who have testified about these sexual encounters
they had with Sean Combs, and it doesn't seem like
the defense is really saying they're not telling the truth.
They're owning up to these things happening. But what it

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seems to me what the defense has been doing is saying,
take everything is true, it doesn't amount to a federal crime.
And it seems that the defense has been putting the
prosecution in the hot seat. In other words, the prosecution
called you as a witness to sex trafficking, but what
you're testifying to really isn't that you had a toxic relationship.

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There might have been domestic violence, but it's not sex trafficking.
And I think that that's a really strong avenue for
the defense to go through. And they've been doing a
phenomenal job at cross examining these witnesses, questioning these witnesses
from the state, from the government. How many people are
watching you To give you an idea, each video gets

(14:52):
between two hundred thousand to over a million views, and
you can and by the way, that's just my show,
and I do three to four episodes a day on it,
and then we do a live stream show, a live
show every day, which i is an hour and a
half crime. This is long Crimes YouTube. We do it

(15:13):
every day lunchtime show. We get thousands of people watching
and submitting questions, and then we clip it and put
it out and that gets three hundred, four hundred thousand views.
There's a tremendous interest in this case.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Wow, all right, I don't get it. It's not clear
to me. It sounds like he's done some wrong things,
but I don't see him running i'm afia enterprise.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
You're also you're also not following the case day in
and day out like the jurors, so we shall see.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, all right, well that's great anyway, you're doing well.
I'm glad to see you and hear you. This is great.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, I'm happy I get to be back on the
show with you as much as I possibly can. I'm
sorry my schedule has been nuts. I miss you, and
hopefully I get to come on a little bit longer.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
All right, Well, going to take a break, and when
we get back, get away from crime and I'll make
my own troubles back in a minute.

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Speaker 1 (20:14):
Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I've been thinking about the company line versus the party line.
I believe in the right to manage. Someone's put in
a position to do a job, to take action. They
have a right to make decisions, and I believe in it.
I believe the president of the country, the governor of
any state, the mayors of any city, all these people

(20:41):
are elected and they have the right to manage. They
also have an obligation to make the right decisions. Now,
I often look at Congress and the Senate in this
day and age where we are, and I get very
discovered and I wonder what happened when you consider the
party line that we didn't vote for. We vote for individuals,

(21:05):
not a party line. We voted for candidates who are
independent that make independent decisions on each issue. We voted
for candidates to support us, and we didn't expect him
to be stacked on their own behalf and just vote
a party line. Where's their brains, where's their common sense?

(21:25):
Where are the things that they realized cannot possibly be right?
This is not what we signed up for. When I
looked at Mitt Rodney, he's pissed me off many times,
but he always seems to vote what he believes he
deals with right and wrong. Between the Democratic choice and
the Republican shorts. Guy like Joe Manchin, who's no longer

(21:48):
in the Senate or the Congress, he was another one
who made decisions based what he thought was right. He
wasn't worried about the party line. You know, if you're
in the Democratic Party and I suppose the report Republicans
for the same thing. You don't vote the party line,
you won't get to sit on committees, you won't get
your bills passed, you won't have any clout. So they're

(22:09):
forced in the system to follow the party line, and
it drives me crazy. Where is the individual thinking, Where
is the thought of doing what's right? They can't have
the same thought on every issue. You mean to tell
me Donald Trump has done nothing right, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

(22:34):
It's unbelievable either way. I think the president has the
right to manage. Now. I want to give you an
example before I leave this, because I think it's important.
The Big Beautiful Act. The bill passed raise a thin
margin in the Congress, two hundred and fifteen to two

(22:56):
hundred and fourteen votes. All of the Democrats voted no.
Two Republicans voted no. But think about it, nobody in
the Democratic Party said maybe we should vote for this.
I don't like the stomach of the party line. I

(23:20):
don't think it serves us well, and I don't want
to go any further into that Other than what I said,
I want to talk about stuff. We all make decisions,
we all make mistakes, and while I know I have
to bend and adjust at times to the sake of

(23:41):
the company, I don't like it, but I'll do it now.
I remind you the title of tonight show is I'd
like to think I can make it up to you,
but I don't trust me because life gets in the way.
John F. Kennedy said it great, one of the most
famous quotes of all time. It's not what your country

(24:01):
can do for you ask what you can do for
your country. On bottom line, when you work for a company,
you have to do what's right for the company as well.
And when the manager or a company takes a party line,
these are decisions that are made that are important for

(24:23):
the company to go forward. And I want to talk
about that because in business there are certain things in
companies that everyone has to march to. But by launch,
the business speaks and people follow it and they make
independent decisions. I've spent a lot of time lately listening

(24:45):
to friends, family acquaintances gripe about income, what they're making.
I have the same job as this other guy and
he makes twice what I make. This guy I'm sitting
next to is no smarter than me, and he's doing
better than me. I didn't get a raise. I like,

(25:08):
I'm not making what I should make. All the scriping
does nothing. I'll tell you what I remember saying once
to the exact vepe of the company during a dispute
on income, that I'm as good as my job as
anyone else anywhere in this company. And he looked at

(25:28):
me and he said, Mark, you don't know that you're
not in a position to evalue that it makes you
sound foolish. This conversation is over until you come back
and admit to me and apologize for saying that. And
he was right. You know, you could take two people

(25:53):
the same title, the same job per se and their
salaries are so dis barrett you would never dream it
to be the case. I had a situation. Um, let
me think about this. Two guys, two vice presidents and
general managers. One of them was earning six hundred thousand

(26:15):
dollars a year and the other three hundred thousand dollars
a year. Now you might say, how can that be? Well,
the first question you have to ask, what is the
volume that each one is responsible for? If the guy
with the six hundred k was responsible for one hundred

(26:38):
million and the other person same title vice president general
manager was only responsible for fifty million, you could build
a case that they shouldn't be paid the same. Let's
go back to six hundred k. He has been working
for thirty years, with twenty years as a VP and

(26:58):
general manager. The other one is a young upstarts, only
been working ten years, but smart as a whip, very capable,
but only been doing the job for five years. You
could build a case that the one who has the
more experienced is entitled and understandably being paid more. Nowhere

(27:22):
does it say that everyone should make the same amount
of money, the same bonus, get the same stock options,
or whatever benefits. Nowhere, as I just showed you, can
you prove the same job is being done by two
different people with the same title. Nowhere does it say

(27:42):
the word fair. Nowhere does it say that the payment
has to be fair fairest for kids in the real
adult world, it doesn't exist. However, Yet there are good companies.
They are smart companies, the companies that want to retain
their people, that want to make sure that when they

(28:03):
are confronted with the differences of the myriad of people
working in their organization and they need to rationalize the
decisions they make, they put plans in place, and therefore
that might help dealing with the inevitable differences associated with

(28:26):
having large groups of people working in conjunction to do
important work. But every job is bid. Now, what I
would say to you is, as followers, both of those
managers I talked before were very good at what they did.
One of them, the one making thirty thousand, has spent

(28:46):
ten years working within the company. And when the company
they did well, they got raises everywhere anywhere from three
to ten percent, and that brought them up to three
hundred thousand dollars. And until they learn perhaps that someone
else for a similar job, they think the same is
making six hundred, they feel they have treated unfairly. And

(29:10):
it's not the case because perhaps the person making six
hundred thousand was recruited from the outside. In order to
recruit him, we had to pay more to get them,
and therefore they're making twice the amount. Once again, it's
not fair, but there's a reason and I rationale for

(29:31):
what it happened. If you want to get that person
and they have the reputation, and you need them in
your company, and you make a decision, as you have
a right to do, to pay more to get them in,
it shouldn't be because you have someone making less, I'm
not going to hire them. The company has an obligation

(29:56):
to do what's right for the company. The manager has
a right to manage in this case, in the order
to get that individual, even though they had to pay
more to bring them in. Now there is a plan
and there's a way to put this together. If you
look at the general manager tighter. For example, it would

(30:19):
say that the pace range is anywhere from six hundred
thousand to two hundred thousand. The goal is to get
everyone in that range. So the person who's making three
hundred might be towards the lower end of the cycle,
but they're moving towards the mean. They're at the mean,

(30:42):
the middle, and you will continue to pay them more
generously then you might have been paying the person who
made six hundred because they're at the top. That's the rationale.
And hopefully good companies, whether they want to be fair
or they want to make sure they're managing the company properly,

(31:05):
we'll deal with these issues, which brings me to the
subject of bonuses. I've been on both sides of the
negotiation of bonuses. I've been a recipient of bonuses, and
I've been a player who created bonus plans, and I

(31:28):
could tell you it never is perfect. Never. I could
fill a show of hours talking about stories where I
thought I would get one thing I was promised and
never got anything close to it. Bonuses, my friends, are

(31:49):
always subjective. There's a human element that can come in
any time and adjust what it is based on what
is right for the company. Now, A smart company always
ties a portion of the bonus to company performance. So

(32:11):
let's say a company's doing a billion dollars and you're
in a division doing three hundred million, and your division
does great, and you earned yourself a million dollar bonus,
but the rest of the company is losing money. How
can we afford to pay you a million dollars when

(32:31):
the rest of the company's losing money. Most cases, you can't.
So there's always an element that protects the company. Get
over it, learn about it, understand it's right. But then
there becomes where the body language comes in. As I

(32:52):
said to you before even myself, I'd like to say,
I make it up to you if I can't deliver,
But I don't trust me. But I have a story.
I was a young president. I was running the venues
and shirt company. The CEO of the company tell me
that if I make twenty six percent return on investment,

(33:14):
I would get two hundred percent of my salary as
a bonus. That means that for every dollar we invested
in the company, we got that twenty six dollars. That,
in turn, if the whole company could do that, the
company's stock would go through the roof. But individually, I

(33:34):
was promised that I had amazing gear, made a fortune
for the company, made twenty six percent return. I expected
to get my two hundred percent. I expected a marching band.
I expected to be promoted. I expected them to tell
me I could take two days off a week for

(33:55):
as long as I would. I expected breakfast in bed,
I expected lunch's dinners, car services, first class travel. I
expected everything. And when bonus time came, I couldn't wait
to see a check two hundred percent of my salary.
It would the largest amount I ever collected. And you

(34:19):
know what I got. I got one hundred percent. Now,
I will tell you, one hundred percent of your salary
for bonus is a gift from God. It was amazing.
But I was angry and I lost my call, and
I shared that with the president of the company. He

(34:39):
thought I was an ungrateful fool. He punished me. He
sent me home, asked me if I still want to
work for the company, put me in the doghouse, even
though I was right. But what trumps at all what

(35:00):
is best for the company. And they didn't like the
idea that one guy in the company would get two
hundred percent of his salary, even though on paper it
was there. So I guess the issue here is a
company has a right to manage, to make decisions that

(35:24):
they think are right on behalf of the company at
the expense of any individual, because the sum of the
parts are greater than the whole, And as Spock said
in Star Trek, the needs of the many outweigh the
needs of the few. Now I can end this right here,

(35:45):
but I have to. I can't without mentioning Los Angeles.
We all know people who are here illegally. Some we love, some,
we like some, we respect some, we hire, we have
relationships with them. We all know it, and it's uncomfortable
to watch what's going on. But LA was getting out

(36:09):
of control back in the day. It wasn't so long ago.
We saw all the riots around the country. We saw
the Rioters take over Paul. We saw the rioters take
over Portland, Oregon for more than a month. We watched
stores being shuttered, windows being broken, crimes being committed. He

(36:33):
watched whatever his name is, Gavin whatever, who continues to
destroy California with older respect, the fires, the homelessness, the
tax rates, everything. I mean, I like the guy. He's
incredibly articulate. How do I say it. He's great looking,

(36:54):
he dresses well, he's always on top of his game.
But when it comes to successfully running that state, it
doesn't seem right. I have to feel very uncomfortable to
see the Marines or the National Guard in American City.
But I have to weigh lawlessness, dangerer threatening of people,

(37:19):
injury to police officers, and total lack of control and
chaos versus the president making a decision with the right
to manage and stepping in and controlling it and stopping
it before it gets out of control. And by the way,
if California behaves this way, what's to stop the other

(37:40):
forty nine other states? Anyone you speak to will applaud
the right to protest, to protest legally, not to stop traffic,
not to throw rocks, not to put people in danger. Look,
this country is the separation of responsibilities from federal to

(38:04):
state to local is brilliant, like the brilliant crafting of
our government. Maybe we need a parish, Maybe we need
a paradigm. Shit. I can only tell you that if
I was in power position and I treated you with
my version of educated fairness and you voice your un happiness.

(38:28):
I would tell you, I'd like to think I can
make it up to you, but I don't trust me
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handed it to me and said, you better make it work.
And I put everything in my career to make ISOD work.
And I fell in love with that brand, and to

(40:40):
this day it is one of the most exciting endeavors
I've ever got involved with. ISOD is an incredibly strong
golf brand. If you play golf, if you play tennis
for that matter. They make a great polo shirts. I
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it's a PK fabric that waffle leave, you see, and
it's made of a blend of cotton and microfiber that
allows you to stretch. And very often they are treated
with solar protection as well, so they stretch, they're comfortable,
and they breathe well. And one thing about ISOC they
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in your waist that they'll fit you great. The colors,
patterns are sensational. Now I will also tell you ISOD
makes great shorts and great golf pants. You're a golf friend,
you want to look good. You don't have to think
about how do I look. You want to think about
how you play, not how you feel. ISOD is the
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was created. The strategy behind that brand is brilliant. It's

(41:48):
one of my favorite brands. While I talk about it,
I should tell you about the man's sportswear. ISOD wasn't
enough being a golf brand. It wasn't enough being just
great polo shirts with logos, Without logos, brands and story
and history. ISOD makes salt weather programs. They have great

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printed woven shirts, short sleeves. They look excellent with colors,
excellent with shorts, excellent with cotton pants, of which they
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are perfect for a guy wants to go casually in
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ISOD is affordable. Everyone listening to me talk about this
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Speaker 1 (43:15):
Welcome back to it always in fashion. Here's your host,
Mark Webber.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
I've been thinking about taking positions. I've been thinking about
the right to manage, both in the government and in business.
And I've been thinking about when I made decisions, even
though I thought they were right, I couldn't always do

(43:41):
what I wanted to do. I didn't necessarily take the
party line and march lockstep with whatever anyone said. But
when companies make a decision, and by companies, I mean
the management, you have to follow it. Now, there is
poetic license within your execution of the director. That's what
makes us free, rich and smart and Americans. And I

(44:05):
did like to think that I would be able to
make adjustments along the way if in fact some of
the decisions I made were wrong. But tonight's show is simple.
I'd like to say, I'll make it up to you,
but they don't trust me. And now, talking about decisions,

(44:27):
I want to make it a little bit more personal
for all of you. I can't help myself. I've always
been in the fashion, luxury retail business, and when you're
in it, there's never a minute that you're not observing.
I'm looking out my window today, I'm looking at the trees.

(44:50):
They're all green, and I'm saying to myself, that's such
a beautiful green. I wonder whether that would look good
as a sweater. Whenever I go into rest, I look
at all the beautiful women. Even with my wife, she
would kick me under the table. I say, hey, I
never have to give up my looking privileges. You know.

(45:10):
I see what women are wearing, I see what men
are wearing. I draw conclusions. I think about what I like,
what I don't like, and I realize that there are
times I want to make comments and I wanted to
talk about taste. There should be no compromising on taste.

(45:34):
I can't make it any clearer than that. Thomas Jefferson,
one of the founding fathers, made a statement which I
don't necessarily agree with. He wrote in Matters of Style,
swim with the current. In Matters of Principle, stand like
a rock. Swimming with the current speaks the following fashion,

(45:55):
and I don't necessarily agree with following fashion. I believe
knowing who you are and following your own course, knowing
what you are most comfortable with and equally importantly look
the best in Coco Chanel. More On my side, fashion

(46:19):
changes style indoors, which means, of course you develop your style,
it stays with you. Doesn't matter what you look at.
You look at a house, you look at a car,
you look at a dress, you look whatever it is,
even a pen and pencil. I have a point of view.
Style indoors celeron. Fashion fades, but style is eternal, it

(46:44):
stays forever. I give you a real life example in business. Purple.
I love the color purple. I think in ancient Rome
purple was the color of the gods. I get it.
It's such an unusually rich, beautiful and any time I've
ever been in a design meeting over the years when

(47:05):
someone was presenting purple and they were saying, this color
is going to be important this year, I always remember
really enjoying it. You take a blue dress, shirt, white color,
throwing a stripe of purple. Oh, it's great, But purple
is a color by the time it goes from the
inception boards, from the color and concept boards to on

(47:28):
the sales floor. It dies. It never less a test
of time. It always is a problem because it's fashion,
it's not eternal style. So I was thinking about this
and my view. Let me give you my quote on style.
You ready, there's no substitute for good taste. And frankly,

(47:52):
what's unfortunate and what's difficult is each and every one
of you have to determine what is good taste. Now,
I could tell you every single day, if I did
a show and tell you what to wear and why
not to wear, it'd be my opinion, and chances are
you would be better dressed for it. But I don't
have that opportunity. No one has the rights, no one

(48:13):
is a guru to do that. And all you have
to do is look at any Look at the met
this year. The style of dress was terrible. Look at
the oscars, look at all of them. They're a handful
of people who get it right and then the rest
get wrong. It's terrible and mostly the men are worse
than the women. But there are a lot of women
dressing outrageously poorly. And for me my view, there's no

(48:38):
substitute for good taste. But my attitude is if there
wasn't for bad taste, there'd be no taste at all.
And I've been watching it's spring, it's summer. I have
answers for everything on what people should be wearing, except
for the exception of women's summer shoes. I'm lost, you
see other than heels. I hate wedges, I hate gladiata sandals,

(49:03):
I hate Berkenstocks. I'm not a fan of sneakers. I
tolerate flats. I have no answer except ladies, please, You've
got to get it right. And I recognize there are problems.
You go to the soccer field, you're standing in grass.
You go to a cocktail party or a polo match,
you're standing on grass. Your heels will go in. So

(49:24):
I leave it to you to find the style of
stuff that makes the most sense. And I will tell
you I'm glad I'm not in the women's footwear business
right now because I don't have to figure that out.
I don't have a clue, But men, I do have
a clue, and I do want to share with you
what I try and do. It's springtime, it's summertime, okay,

(49:45):
I just spent a week on and off the golf course.
I'm sick of looking at you and your shorts. I
hate you in shorts. I've seen one guy in the
entire from April to now wearing shorts. Young, tall, thin,
athletic look great in shorts. None of you do. None

(50:06):
of you do. I thank God every day that I
don't have to see you with your tan lines. What
you must look like when you get undressed, between the
ankle socks and the shorts, Oh my god, and the
sleeve showing you must look ridiculous. Guys, I hate you
in sandals. I don't say that word hate lightly. I

(50:29):
hate it. From the tongues to the open back slipper types.
What the hell where did those come from? I don't
even know what they're called. I don't want you in birkenstocks.
I hate, hate, hate, I hate you with your white
sole shoes. Who Ever developed that should be put in

(50:50):
fashion jail have to wear them for the rest of
their life. I don't know if Laura and Pianos started that.
I hope not. I don't want to knock that company.
They're a great company, former part of my former company,
Helvy Image. But when you wear those shoes with suits.
I want to scream. Those of you wear sneakers with suits.
Who do you think you are? I can't stand looking

(51:11):
at you. I'm glad, oh my gosh, that I don't
have to see you every day. You guys are ruining fashion.
You're terribly styled. I would never, ever, ever chase these
trends to this day. I never wore tight jeans. I
never wore skinny leg pants. I could, I'm thin. I

(51:33):
just don't like the way the bottom greeched the shoes.
There's no break. I don't want to look at ankles.
I'm depressed with hoodies and graffiti T shirts. I'm depressed
going into fine restaurants, seeing women looking so fine and
men looking so buffoonish. We look like we work for them.

(51:54):
We look like younger than them, like kids. We look
it's totally out of style. I don't know what we're thinking.
Men where shakahonas look like a man? What are you doing?
The couples, they don't look like they belong together. What's
happening to men? Anyway? If I can't help you, I
could least share the extremes. I've gone to honor myself

(52:15):
to make a point. Maybe it will help. I should
start the packaging. Yourself is important. Does the products your package.
You're seen everywhere you go, and no matter what you say,
it matters. I know it shouldn't. I know we shouldn't
be superficial, but it matters. First, guys, you gotta look
in the mirror. You got to be able to look

(52:35):
at yourself in the mirror and be honest with yourself.
If you have no taste, I don't know what to
tell you, but you gotta be able to look in
the mirror and see how you look. You should know
whether you look good or not. You still should know
whether you look your best. I can see how I look.
If I don't look great for me, I change my outfit.

(52:55):
If I don't like the way my hair looks, I
put on a hat. If you don't know what you
look good in your lost, maybe you shouldn't listen to me.
I don't know. That's in a side. I want to
make a point. Everything has style. The other day I
saw a Porsche convertible, beautiful charcoal gray, but my view
on Porsche got destroyed. It had a burgundy red top

(53:18):
and burgundy interior. I don't know who designed that car.
Shame on him. I don't know who bought it. I
don't know what you were thinking. I've never seen a
worse color combination in the world. And somebody bought that
car and somebody's driving it around. Probably that someone just
doesn't have taste. There's no compromise for me. I never
compromise in style. Ever. Doesn't mean I always look great.

(53:41):
You know I'm not Brad Pitt. Doesn't mean I look great.
Doesn't mean everything I choose I made the right decisions.
But I'm trying really hard, and I know when I
look good and I know when I don't. Can't win
every day. I want to give you example of where
I draw the line. I used to be a fanatical
athlete working out, and at one point in time I

(54:02):
decided to do push ups, And never do I do
push ups normally or anything for that matter. I'm a
crazy person when I put my mind to something. I
was doing one hundred push ups in morning and one
hundred pushes in the evening, and I snapped my wrist,
tore my tent, and I needed surgery. I was really
upset about it, but it is what it is. I'll
fast forward. I get to the waiting room. I'm in

(54:24):
my hospital gown. They hand me a hat to put
on my head. You must wear a hat, and what
is it. It's one of those surgical hats that look
like a shower cap. And I said to the woman,
I'm sitting in the bed. They didn't put me down
officially horizontal. I said, I'm not wearing that at sase
you have to wear that hat. I said, I'm not
wearing that as she's everybody else to wear that hat.

(54:47):
I said, well this everyone is not going into surgery
that way. I want to feel confident. I want to
feel good about myself. I'm not putting on that. Yes,
you are. So I see the doctor and I call
over the surgeon. He says, hey, you ready. I said, listen,
I have a problem here. They want me to wear
this hat. I won't wear the hat. I want to
wear the hat you're wearing. He says, they want you
to wear the hat. Why when you wear it? I said,
listen to doctor, you look like a million dollars. I'm

(55:08):
going under the knife. I want to look like a
million dollars. He looked at me and he said to
the nurse, give him one of my hat, and I
went into surgery wearing that hat. I make the point
to you, you have to think about the way you look.
You have to care. This part of what we're saying tonight.
I could sugarcoat this. I could sugarcoat it. I'm telling
you I don't like the way you look. I don't

(55:28):
like you're doing I think it has to change. Please,
And I would tell you the theme of the show tonight.
I'd like to say, I'll make it up to you
for what I'm saying, but I don't trust me. Don't
count at it. With that, good Night,