Jesse's Wedding

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Episode Transcript

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Oh, Live from the Plaza Hotelballroom in the heart of New York City.
Welcome to a special edition of Alwaysin Fashion tonight. It's Jesse and
Haley's wedding. Who is Mark Webber. He's a self made business executive here
to help you find your success fromthe New York City projects to the Avenue

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Montaigne in Paris. His global successstory in the luxury world of fashion is
inspiration off. He's gone from clerkto CEO twice. Mark is classic proof
that the American dream is alive.And well, here's your host of Always
in Fashion, Mark Webber. Weberthe reason, gentlemen. Yes, welcome

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to Always Fashion. It is aspecial edition. My son Jesse Webber married
just moments ago the former Miss HaileySiegel and now mister and missus Jesse Webber
are here with two hundred and fiftyguests, orchestra, chamber music, all
kinds of things going on at thiswedding. And I am chosen now to

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speak. I used to be important, I used to be relevant. I
no longer I am. It's justthe way of the world as it goes.
I used to be a master ofthe universe. I used to be
a big shot. And I'll neverforget how people would knock over people.
They would push my children aside toget and shake my hand. Now they

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pushed me aside to get to mychildren. Now I am irrelevant. I'm
cellophane. I've been thinking maybe Ishould rob a bank. The cameras wouldn't
pick me up. Nobody sees meanymore. But tonight there is a difference.
I am relevant because I'm here asa father. I've getten a great

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deal of thought to what I wantto say Tonight. It's a night for
a celebration, and it's a nightfor introspection. As a father, I
have insights and I have many lessons, and that's what I want to dress
First. I was never ready tobe a father, but you become one.

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But the one thing I never expected, the one thing I wasn't preferred
for when being a father, wasstarting my life all over again. I
worked so hard to find success inmy career. I remember so clearly.
After working for the first fifteen ortwenty years, I finally felt successful for

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the first time. I actually droveto Brooklyn, to the city projects,
right to the building I grew upin. I got out of my car.
I stood up and looked at theapartment windows where I grew up,
and I screamed out, I willnever have to come back to the projects.
I've made it. Then one dayI wake up and now I'm worrying
all over again because I'm a father, and this time I'm worrying for my

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sons. I wasn't prepared. Ididn't expect it. However, after college,
after law school, after the boyspassing the bar, both of them,
Uncle Crea pass for success, andit's one less thing for a father
to have to worry about. I'velearned by experience that the single most important
decision, however, you'll make inyour life is deciding who you spend your

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life with. Me. I neverhad to think about this when I was
running around and I was single.I've found my soul mate. And then
one day, as a father,here i am. I'm worried for my
sons. Will they meet the rightwomen? Will they have happy lives?
I thought I was done, butnope, I wasn't prepared. Fathers have

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to worry. Now I have twosons, two daughter in laws. I'm
deede to two little boys. Jarardfound ena perfect Jesse chose Haley perfect.
I wish it was, but fatherhoodis not so simple more. It seems,
as I said, I don't knowif I'm smart. I know I'm

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well trained, and now I knowhow to navigate life. I was always
aware that my sons would choose rightfrom wrong, but I need it well
before I need. Everyone needs mentors, We all need role models. Even
more importantly for me, I neededmy sons to respect me, not for

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me, for them. I hadto be able to guide my sons,
and the only way to do itis if they'd be interested. In my
opinion, that's what you have todo for the well being of your children.
A father's responsibility is to teach tobe the calm like an eagle flying
through a snowstorm. Your children needto know you're there. Unconditionally, I

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reached a pinnacle. I won thegame of corporate life. I became president,
CEO, board member. Yeah,I was a big shot, but
I was also a father, andthank god, I knew that I used
my success to ensure that I couldbe with my children, that I could
be with the boys anytime I hada support and speech to give the boys

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were there. Sales meetings one hundredand ten people, regional managers, salesman
executives. When we selected the sitefor our sales meetings, it was clear,
if you get Mark Webber, youget his sons. Whoever was asked
to arrange the agreement between us andthe hotel knew that they had to orchestrate

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a deal with the hotel that mysons would have access to wherever I went.
So if we're going to be inthe bar, they had to have
access. If they're going to inthe ballrooms, they had to have access.
And that's the way it was.My sons always were there with me
to hear me speak. Might explainwhy they're so articulate themselves. When I

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became CEO at the annual shareholders meeting, Jesse was in the audience. When
I had board meetings in Paris withLouis Vuitton moet Henness, Jesse and Jared
both got to see it. Theysat at it and listen. Yeah,
this explains in part why they canspeak so well. But I'll tell you
something that probably was even more important. This big shot knew his place in

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life. Family came first. Imade sure I made time for the family.
What's the benefit of success if youcouldn't break away to spend time with
your family. Don Corleone speaking toJohnny Fontaine, do you spend time with
your family? Sure? I do. Godfather good because a man who doesn't

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spend time with his family can neverbe a real man. My wife she
made sure I knew how to bea father. I never missed a soccer
game. I never missed a baseballgame. A father needs to know what's
important in life. It's simple.It's family and speaking family. Jesse,
I know you just got married anhour ago, and far be it from

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me to press you to tell youwhat to do. But you're the next
web father too, will have responsibilityto send an example from your children.
All of you guys in the audiencehave that responsibility. I mentioned my wife.
She made me what I am today. She made me when I met
my wife had a great smile.That's it. She taught me substance.

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Jesse insisted that his mom beyond theinvitation for this wedding, good for him.
He's already a better guy than me. If you know our family,
you know it's always going to beabout Susie Mammy, Susie Grandma, Susie,
Aunt, Susie, my Susie.She put this thing together. She
taught us what was important. Shetaught me to be a father. Susie

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responsible for our family. So Imay have been the provider. She was
the teacher and the architect and thebrains behind the Webbers. So of course
on Jesse's wedding day we think ofher, how fortunate we were to have
had her in our life. Susie. Jesse was her baby. Jaredy,
even as a little boy, alreadyhad my swagger. I've always called him

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the new improved version of me.He's just like me. And she would
say to me, you got yourclutches in, Jared, because she had
to deal with both of us.We were a team. Jesse is mine.
Stay away from him. She lovedher little baby. When Jesse was
born, where the babies were keptin that special area for all the babies,

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if you walked over, you wouldsee it would say on his bed,
whatever you call it, baby boyWebber. We couldn't agree on the
name the entire time. We're inthe hospital. The sign a hunter his
crib said, baby boy Webber.Now Susy was in no rush to leave.
She was happy for the help.We had a relationship with the hospital.
I visited her each day. Wehad a spirited conversation on what his

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name would be. Hey, Sue, I'm the father, and she would
look at me and say so.One night we had a hospital romantic dinner.
Being in a hospital, it wasn'tso romantic, but it was important
to see. Still no name afterall of that. So on the last
day I came to pick her upto leave. I was panicked and I

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said, Susie, we have toname the baby. And she said,
we did. His name is Jesse. Let's go home. In the end,
I guess it's better than Derek.Yep. Jesse was Susie's baby.
She was his role model. Sheruined him, she made him a good
guy. Jesse's a good guy.Jared and I often wondered they give us

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the wrong baby in the hospital allthe time. Jesse and I became very
close. We spent a lot oftime together, particularly when Jared went away
for college. As a father,I never forget they're my sons. I
never forget though we're also best friends. Jesse and I traveled the world together.
Where I went, the boys wentAsia, Europe, South of France

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Business pleasure. We were words inmusic. You get Mark Webber, you
get his sons. Were a packagedeal. Everyone knew the boys. I
like life's lessons. I trust you'relistening and getting him out there. It's
Jesse's wedding night. It's the righttime being in your children's lives. Let
them know you want to help.Be a good listener, make sure you

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think carefully before giving advice. Andlastly, it's okay to be their friends
and companion. When I think aboutour relationships with myself and the boys,
it's priceless. There's not a daythat goes by that Jesse doesn't text me
and tells me he loves me andmisses me. Priceless. Two weeks ago,

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Jared was at Pebble Beach for businessand playing golf. When we spoke,
Unsolicity said, Daddy, it's greathere, but it doesn't feel the
same with you not being with me. Priceless. Yeah. I never dreamed,
after figuring out Live's game, thatI had to worry all over from
my children. Tonight Jesse married Haley. I am no longer worrying. Jesse

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and Haley Webber starting a new lifetogether. Na Weber managing three babies,
including Jared na. I admire you, I love you, all of you
priceless. During the course of planningfor this wedding for a year, Hayley
taught me a lesson. Every timeI would see her, she would ask

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me if I was excited, andthe antswer was always the same, I'm
not excited about this stuff. Itjust doesn't get me excited. Aren't you
excited for the wedding? No?And then one day she looked at me
and said, aren't you excited.You're extending the family. And I put
my head down and I said,of course, and she was right.

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So that made me excited. Nowhaving said this, enough of the sweet
stuff. I can't take it.I know it's Jesse's wedding, but it's
our radio show, our podcast.Allow me to introduce my lawyer, co
host and son, Jesse Weber.Come on up, Jesse. Time to

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work. I can't get one nightoff when when one night off, I'm
working your work here? Remember whenyou said you're not a character. This
isn't helping. Oh well, Ithink it's only appropriate now I have a
couple of questions for you. You'reready. I can't believe that you're doing
this. You're getting I was enjoyingmy short rib. I was in listening

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to the speeches. You know,so, what what do you I thought
you like doing our show. Ineed one day off, one day forget
it, forget it, forget it. You know, work is work.
If it's work, you work hard. Though you're lucky, you get.
I need you here with me.Okay, So listen. When I first
met Hailey, I'm pretty hard onyou bringing meat dates. I've never been

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easy about it. Correct, that'san understatement. Well, let me ask
you a question. How was Iwhen it came to Haley? Interestingly enough,
the first thing you said, shehandles herself so well. She seems
very smart, and she seems verykind. That was what you first said
about her. So I was prettynice to her. Right? Do you
know why? Why take beauty aside, telling sweetness aside, taking family aside?

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Think about it? What you toldme why I was so nice to
Haley? Well, the truth ofthe matter is, and this is not
scripted. I told my dad this. He asked me, what makes Haley
so special? She just makes mehappy. You know a lot of people
don't know this. We didn't seeeach other for the last eighteen hours,
and I missed her. When Idon't see her, I miss her.

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She means the world to me,so I love her. So of course
I was so you being happy asyour father was all I cared about.
And the fact that you was sohappy with Haley instantly cognition, an instant
set. So that's why cutter slacking. So we're done. I can go
back. No no, no,no, no no, that's so easy.

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This show this called always in fashion. And as much as I wanted
to be a business show, andas much as it's cultural and lifestyle,
it's fashion. And I can't talkfashion wellout the other member of this trio
coming up and joining me, JaredWebber. You know we're on radio and

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podcast is the or an audience outthere? I can't hear you. Jared,
you look amazing. Tell us whoyou're wearing. I'm wearing Ralph Lauren
Purple label. More specifically, asyou pick up the paper, I'm wearing
a peek lapel tuxedo with a growgrain waistcoat and velvet slippers. And the

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waistcoat is a shawl collar. Andabout you tonight, who are you wearing?
I have to admit you got meinterested in Ralph Floren. I never
wore him before because all the companiesI work for I couldn't wear a competitor.
But I gotta tell you this ismade to measure from Italy. I
can't believe how comfortable it feels.It's really really great. But I want
to change the subject a little.Do you look the best you can look?

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Right now? To be intellectually honest, no, I don't. If
this is what I think it's about, made fun of me enough, you
don't have to do it anymore.It's what you think it's about. This
is ridiculous. I'm one hundred percentright. You'll hear the crowd agree with
me. Do you look the bestyou look tonight day? In spite of

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the way this suit feels, No, I'm not wearing what I wanted to
wear? What did you want towear tonight? I wanted to wear a
white shawl collar dinner jacket, justlike the one Jesse's wearing tonight? What
did you want to wear tonight?Ever since I saw a Sean Connery and

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Thunderball, I wanted to wear awhite dinner jacket, but Jesse didn't want
us to win white dinner jackets.He didn't want us to over a shadow
him a little selfish? Am Iallowed to be selfish on my wedding?
Can I not be a peacock alittle bit? All right, I'm gonna
take over. I will say,Daddy, we lucked out because they didn't

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have any white dinner jackets and adultsizes at the start. I gotta tell
you, Jesse, the whole thingsounds really selfish to me. I wanted
to wear a white dinner jacket andinstead I'm wearing this. This isn't about,
you know, whether anybody's out shining. I'm allowed to be selfish this
one time in my life. Youcan wear a white dinner jacket any other

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time. All right, ladies andgentlemen, if you're just tuning in,
this is Mark Webber, Jesse Webber, and Jared Webber. This is always
in Fashion, a special edition.Jesse Webber just married Hayley Si and we're
talking about that wedding. Here weare talking about fashion. Now. I
can't help myself. I am goingto choose my words carefully. I was
going to do a real number onthe way the guys addressed look women,

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the ladies here. You'll all lookbeautiful, You're all dress well. I'm
enjoying just being in your presence,but the guys not so much. Now
there's a part of me that beforeI even begin, it's not your fault.
The signals you're getting, what you'reseeing on award shows, what you're

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reading in GQR esqui. They're tellingyou the wrong things. I remember seeing
Seth Rogan wear a pink tuck sedoto the Academy Awards. I was wondering,
should I wear a pink tuch sedowhen I go to a board meeting
or a formal dinner with my company. I'm sure they'd appreciate it. You're
getting the wrong signals, but nonethelessI'm looking out there are rules. Some

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of you are wearing suits. Guys, the Hilton is down the street.
This is the Plaza Hotel. Someof you are wearing socks. Some of
you are wearing regular shoes. Youknow I was going to get into this.
I really don't because five minutes intodancing, fifty percent of you all
took off your jackets and you're runningaround with your shirts. So so much

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for black ties. I can't win. Now that I got that out of
my system. Let me get backto life and being a father. I've
learned a few lessons along the wayabout life marriage. There's a lot of
younger people out there in the audiencetonight, and I'm concerned because the statistics
are not in favor of marriage.Fifty to seventy percent of marriages end in

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divorce. Less people are getting marriedbecause they hear that information. And I
know the secret to a successful marriage, and it's simple. I know the
secret to not getting divorce. Divorceis not an option. It's not simple.

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My wife and I agreed before wegot married that we were staying married.
There is no way either one ofus would ever have considered divorce.
And in the forty years we weremarried, not once did we ever threaten
each other because we made a promiseto each other. Did we fight,
of course, did we say crazythings to one another? Of course,

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there were times we went to bednot talking to each other. I woke
up the next morning I forgot whatwe fight about, but we knew,
no matter what, if we wereto stay together, you have to work
it out. No. I understandsome of you think I'm crazy. I
know people say I changed he changed. She changed. I'm not happy.
Wake up. It's your job tofigure that out before you pick upon or

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and decide you're getting married. That'syour job. It's your life we're talking
about. I also want to talkto you about being a father in law.
I'm a father in law. Butbefore I go there, I have
to tell you I had an amazingrelationship with my in laws. My mother
in law I think loved me.I think she was funny, she had

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no filter. After a couple ofyears with her, I remember her sitting
down with me and saying to me, Susie always said, you'd be good.
What the heck were they talking about? But my father in law,
he was a very very interesting guy, an important guy, and helpful guy

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in life and in marriage for me. Joe copplewis you know I had a
problem. Like a lot of youout there, youth is wasted on the
young. I didn't show the respectto my parents that I should have.
I could have been better. Ilearned respect for parents from my wife.
I'd been dating Susie for about amonth and she said it's time I'd like

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you to come meet my parents.So I went to our home. When
inside met her parents. We hadnice conversation. They were very nice to
me, and we got up toleave, and as we were walking,
my future father in law opened meto the door and he said, Mark
brings Susie back by eleven o'clock.And I started to laugh to myself and
we got outside. He closed thedoor and I started to laugh. I

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said, yeah, right, bringyou back at eleven o'clock. And as
I'm walking, I looked to myleft and Susie's not there. I said,
whoa. I turned around and she'sstill at the door. I walked
back and said, what happened?What's going on? And she looked at
me says, when my father tellsyou that he wants you to bring me
back at eleven o'clock, you bringme back at eleven o'clock. That's when

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I learned respect for parents. Andthat's when I realized how serious and how
precious Susie was as a woman.Now, as for me, my first
encounter with my father in law ina great less than I learned. Susie
and I were talking about a weddingand my father in Laura sat us down

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and he said, look, I'vebeen planning on Susie having a wedding for
a very long time. We putaway money to have a special wedding.
But I have to ask Mark.I know you come from humble circumstances,
and I thought that if you'd preferto have a check rather than a big
wedding, I would offer you thatopportunity. What do you want to do

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now? Susie and I had talkedabout this, and she's definitely wanted a
wedding, but she knew that Iwas excited about the idea of a check
because where would I put that kindof money together. We could buy a
house right away, And Susie saidto me, Mark, we'll be able
to buy a house. I havefaith in you. We don't need the
money. So anyway, my fatherasked me, I said, you know,

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sir, I think we'd like toget the check right then. And
there he stood up, walked out, didn't talk to me for three weeks
till I came back and begged himto make a wedding. On a serious
note, I was working. Iwas relatively new at my company, but

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I started to realize I was makingcompromises. I started to realize that people
were asking me to say and dothings that I didn't like doing. I'm
not a liar, I'm not afibber. I don't like bending the truth.
And I was being asked to doit, and my career was put
in front of me. I startedto think that I needed this job,

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and I was making decisions because Iwas fearful of not working and not having
money. And I shared that withmy father in law, and what a
great guy he said to me,Mark, I hope you never need to
come to me, but you shouldnever make decisions based on money. You
should always make decisions based on whatyou feel is right. And in this

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guard I want you to know Ihave your back. So Jesse, I
will tell you like my father inlaw said to me, I hope you
never need me. I hope younever have the problems that I had.
I hope you never have to makedecisions for money, but if you do,
I have your back. And lastly, I learned the lesson that I

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want to share now with Haley.If you watch my father in law,
he was fair, he was neutral. You would never know by talking to
my father in law who is hisson or who is his daughter in our
marriage. You would never know becausehe treated us fairly. If there was

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an argument, if there was adispute, if there was something no one
agreed on. He didn't pick sides. He was fair, he was just,
and because that you could trust himimplacably. And I want to I
promise you tonight, Hailey, thatno matter what happens with you and Jesse,
I will treat you evenly. Withthat said, I want to thank

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all of you for being here tonight. I've had a wonderful time so far.
I appreciate the opportunity to speak withyou. I believe somewhere in those
last fifteen minutes there were lessons forall of you to gain by. I
hope you are listening. I knowyou're drinking. I know you're having fun,
and you want to get back tothe body with that, Let's have

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some fun. I'm going to takea break. You'll be back in a
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to Always in Fashion. Here's yourhost, Mark Webber, Jesse my son
and co host just got married.It's actually three o'clock in the morning and
I'm still pumped up. So Ifigured i would talk about the wedding.
But before I go there, Ihad an incredible experience last night. It's

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Sunday night, Memorial Day weekend.Last night, Saturday night, I took
a group of friends out to dinner, eleven of us in total, to
Avron Madison Avenue. It was agreat time and it meant a lot to
be with close friends that were allin New York getting ready for the wedding.
The next day, we all hungout, we had dinner together,

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and I made a speech to thembecause I was happy. I was in
the mood. It was my dinnerparty. I felt like entertaining and holding
court. And I made a speechand it was really fun and I enjoyed
doing it, and I called itgoing to the poorhouse speech. You know,

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I'm sitting in there in this restaurant. I'm figure it's going to cost
me at least twenty five hundred dollarsfor dinner, and then you know,
I will choose my words carefully.I made a important contribution to the wedding.
Leading up to the wedding, Ihad been very gracious and I sent
my family to Disney World, allexpenses paid, hired those tour guides,

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those special tour guides that walstered throughall of Disney, the back doors,
etc. Fortune And of course,as a wedding gift to Jesse and Haley,
I decided to pay for their honeymoonto the Greek Islands first class,
all the way through cruises around theislands. You watched Jesse pilot on.

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It was amazing and I said toJesse, you know, let's take a
minute. You remind me of thecontractor I used to build my house.
I bought a house a few yearsago and decided to change our lifestyle.
I bought a bigger house and itwas really exciting time for us. The
house on the outside, to me, you know, brick colonial looked like

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any other house, but inside itwas very warm and very special. And
at the time, I remember Iwas working at LVMH and in particular I
was thinking I was working with DonnaKaran's architect. He's the guy who designed
her penthouse in Manhattan, who whobuilt her compound at Paracay in the Turks

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and Caicos. You know, extraordinarygroup of guys and gals, designers,
really special. And I asked themto come to see this house. I
had bought it, and I hada couple of things I wanted to do,
really only two things. One therewere two rooms that shared a fireplace,

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and as I looked at it,the fireplace was from the floor to
the top of the colonial ceiling.I looked at two rooms and I said
to myself, you know what,this should all be one big room.
This family room, in this livingroom should all be one room. And
I think I want to tear downthe walls and turn it into one room.
And secondarily, in the kitchen therewas a bathroom. Now there's nothing

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wrong with that, except the houselooks out at the water and the bathroom
took up so much space. SoI bought this house, and only thing
my wife and I agreed on weneeded to do was knock down that wall
and make two rooms into one andtake the bathroom out of the kitchen.
And Donna Karen's architect and designer comesto our house. I said, listen,

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the outside is not a dream house, it's just a colonial. But
inside it's really nice. And Ihave a couple of little things I want
you to do and recommend. I'llnever forget, he said, Mark,
I wouldn't think twice about the outside. There is a trend in architecture and
design now that houses on the outsideand what they look like in the inside

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are surprises. So the inside couldvery often be incredibly different, exciting,
and not what you'd expect when youopen the door to look in. And
that's what I think we'll do.We open the door, we all go
in. He takes one foot andset up in the house. He turns
his head, he looks around.He said, you're not living like this.
I said, what do you mean? He said, you're not living

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like this? I know you're Mark. This is for you. You got
to change all of this. AndI went from just knocking down one wall
and taking out a bathroom to redoingthe entire house. Every screw, every
window, everything, Everything was changedexcept for the front windows on the house.
It was crazy. What was supposedto be a seven month project too

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close to two years. And Ican't tell you how frustrated I was and
how expensive it became. And Iremember between the designers and architects and the
builder, my contractor having a meetingwith them when we were almost done,
and I said, you know,particularly to the contractor, you could have

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bankrupted me. This thing was threetimes what we agreed it would cost.
You could have bankrupted me. AndI remember it, and here I am
in this dinner the night before thewedding. I looked at Jesse and I
said, to Jesse, you remindme of the contract that if I didn't
know better, you were trying totake me to the warhouse. And I

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reminded him all these things that aregoing on, And what really triggered it
for me is the day before thewedding, I find out we have to
tip everyone, tip everyone. Wesigned a deal with a photographer to come
in to take pictures in video.We have to tip him and all his
assistance. I don't get it.He signed a contract deal. The guy

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is the owner, he's the photographer. You don't tip the owner. Then
I find out that the caterer expectsus to tip the entire weight staff of
the event. I find out thatthe band leader and his band it's customary
to tip. I find out theflower people, the woman who was at
point deserves to be tipped. Ifind out that the person at the plaza

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who organized the entire event, I'msupposed to tip, and I went crazy,
going crazy. Where is this comingfrom the eleventh hour? And why
am I tipping people to do theirjobs? It's not a thinking about it.
I remember so clearly my first tripto Japan. Japan society is very

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different. They're very polite, they'revery elegant. They're very fastidious about their
appearance and the way they take careof things. You get in a taxi
cab in Japan, you could eatoff the floor. All the seat covers
are covered in white doilies. Everydriver is wearing white gloves, immaculate.

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I remember going in the subway.No noise, no screaming, everyone's dress,
there are no smells, there areno sound, there's no squeaky and
once again, you could eat offthe floors. But the most remarkable thing
of all of it, after allof a sudden, I went to tip
the doorman. I went to tipthe drive. They put their hand out
in front of your palms up andthey shake it, say no, no,
no, no, no, there'sno tipping. And it got me

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thinking, who came up with thisidea of tipping? I don't even want
to know. It's kind of likeour lives. Who came up with the
idea that we would work five daysa week to get two days off?
Who came up with the idea thatwe would work fifty weeks out of the
year to get two weeks off andfor lucky maybe three? Look, I

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mean think who came up with theidea of tipping? This idea that it's
our responsibility to take care of workersworking in a restaurant or taxi driver is
driving a cab? Why is thatour responsibility? I just don't get it.
Food it's expensive you eat out.Do you know that it costs twelve

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dollars to have a diet coke anda good bar in Manhattan? Plus I'll
tell its twelve dollars for a dietcoke? Are you kidding me? At
home? I could buy twelve cansfor twelve dollars, But here it is,
And I'm thinking, there's no shame. Restaurants raise their price during COVID
after COVID incredibly and yet we're takingthem off the hook of having to pay

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for their workers. I don't getit. I don't understand the whole concept.
I went to one of my favoriterestaurants the other night on a Sunday
with the family, seven of us, five o'clock. I get there before
everyone to make sure I like thetable it's there. Fifteen minutes goes by
twenty minutes. I'm early half hour. The waiter doesn't even come over to

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me. You know you want todrink? What can I do for you?
Give me a piece of bread,anything, a breadcrumb. One of
my favorite restaurants. They know mewell. And after all is said and
done, it took over an houronce everyone was there to get to the
food. When the way to finallycame over, I said, what's going
on here? This is well,Sunday at five o'clock is one of our
busiest time and there's just not enoughstamp What I'm saying, Am I screw

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you? What are you nuts tipsto insure prompt service? Now let me
ask you a question. In allhonesty, seven people have dinner, we
get served. Am I not goingto tip the guy because he didn't insure
prop service? M I not totip the guy because a half hour I
waited, it ain't give me aglass of water or a drink. No,
we're obligated to tipp. And thatgot me thinking and I started talking

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to Jesse and I said to him, you remind me of my contractor.
And between all this money I'm spending, I feel like I'm I'm going to
the poorhouse. One thing on tipping. I love Steve Martin. It'll be
twelve dollars, okay, and keepthe change please. Oh we're not allowed
to accept tips. I'm not allowedto accept tips. Oh you change is

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eight? Thank you? Thank you? Can I get you something down?
I find things? Would you likesomething to drink? Now? Be sure
bike you tip a flight attendant.I tip everybody. That's my philosophy.
See, actually it's not tipping.I believe in it's over tipping. Yeah.
I don't believe in tipping. Ibelieve in overtipping. The truth is

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is that's what it feels like,all day long, all night long,
tipping, tipping, tipping, tipping, tipping, tipping. We just added
the most incredible wedding Plaza Hotel isbeautiful. When you walk into that ballroom,
you look at it. It's likethe Sistine Chapel. It's amazing and
there's so many nice events. Duringthe photography sessions. In the early stage,

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Jesse sore his soon to be wifein her gown for the first time.
Oh, it was beautiful. Nice. So she comes walking down the
stairs. Great moment. And duringthat whole photography we went outside in front
of the Plasa and took pictures andthat was a really fun experience. All
of us, the boys, allof us, the friends, all of

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us were in sunglasses in front ofthe plaza fountain. It was so much
fun. But the wedding begins inthe I don't know what you call the
room, but Jesse and I wentup first to the stage the platform to
wait for the wedding party. Asthey started to play music. Jesse played

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for us Claire Dulon because Oceans alevel than had Claire Delone. It's one
of our favorite movies, and Isuppose that's why he chose it. And
we went up and were on thestage, and he wanted to be the
first traditionally and never the first.The groom is never the first, but
he wanted to watch the event asa the unfold. It was turned out
to be a great idea, andI can only tell you that the entirety

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of the wedding that was my favoritepart. I stood behind Jesse as he
waited for his bride to walk downthe aisle, and I had my hands
on his shoulders and I was whisperingin his ear, and the two of
us were talking father and son asclose as we always are, and we're
looking out as people and the proceedof the groups come walking down the aisle,

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and it was truly a special moment, more than a moment, and
we loved it. And he wasright all the flowers, the room was
lit primarily by candles, my son's, Hailey's family, two little boys.
One came to the vada music ofStar Trek. It was amazing other to
the greatest showman, and it wasjust a very very special time. And

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then after that we go into theceremony and the first dance and Jesse comes
in with an outfit change from ablack tuxedo to white dinner jacket. Spectacular,
and he and Haley come in andthey start to dance. I didn't
know who this guy was. Ididn't recognize him. Jesse can really dance.
I never saw it, I suppose, and the whole wedding was active

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and alive and so much going on. There were four speeches. I gave
you mine earlier, I would sayto you. Arguably, I was right
in the middle of the back mydaughter and Laurina gave a speech that was
so remarkable. I was spellbound.One had to do with the content,

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and she was talking to Haley aboutjoining the incredible league of Weber women who
came before her. And it wasa beautiful speech, but the way she
delivered it, I was shocked.I know Ena so well, I know
for a long time. Now wespend time together. It's it's we're all
close. The speech she made wasbreathtaking, amazing. Afterwards they said,

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you know, we got to putyou up for President of the United States.
It was of that ilk. Imean, I've seen and heard a
lot of people speak in my time. I've never seen anything like this.
Better than anyone. I think she'drival Bill Clinton. She was amazing and
it was great, and there wasa moment then when a speech was done,
Jesse and Haley, who were attheir special table, came up to

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hug her and I couldn't help myselfand Jared couldn't help himself, and the
five of us were wrapped in anembrace, hugging Ena for the speech she
gave. And it was just avery special moment. And you can go
on and on, from the cakeceremony to the dancing ceremony. Everything about

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it was beautiful. And while Isaid earlier, I don't get excited,
I was content. I was happy. I was happy for Jesse. After
all, he's my little son.I love him. And the fact that
he was so happy. Yeah,by the way, he gets up on
the stage with his now bride,with the band and starts dancing. And

(43:22):
for the entirety of the wedding,I would say for at least an hour
of it, he was up onthe stage. That's gretty. Oh one
more thing before I leave my nightwhere I was talking about going to the
poorhouse. Thank you. Jesse,my contractor. We're planning the wedding.
The wedding's done and Jesse comes tome, Daddy, we'd like to have

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an afterparty. What what's an afterparty? Says Well, when the wedding
ends, we want to have aselect group of people stay on for another
hour, he said, free.He looked at me and I'm crazy,
and no it's gonna cause I said, what are you nuts? The wedding
started at six o'clock. It's onein the morning. Now you need another

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after hour. So they had itin all of this. And as I
sit here in the middle of thenight talking to you guys, I have
this smile on my face, awarmth in my heart. It is such
a nice feeling for the human race. I hope when I wake up in
the morning I still feel this waytowards my fellow man, but I doubt

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it. It was a great nightso far. I'll take a break back
in a minute. Tonight it's Jesse'swedding. Always in fashion, been a
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Here's your host, Mark Webber.Good evening, good morning, and
I guess it is more accurate.It's the middle of the night. Jesse's
wedding just concluded two o'clock in themorning, finished the after party. I'm
in my room. I'm still sittingin my tuxedo. I'm thinking about the
night with a smile. My son, Jesse, my baby, is married,

(46:44):
and we had a great time.He had a great time, is
happy from beginning to end. He'sbeen excited about this, looking forward to
it. Big night, great night. Everyone had a good time, everyone
including me. But I have toadmit I'm admittedly not a fan of humans,
and here I am having to beone of the focal points of an

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evening, a personal focal point,which is very different from business. You
stand up as a business guy atthese events. You're detached. It's business.
It's not personal, Sunny, it'sbusiness. Personal is different, and
it's an awkward situation for me.Made me think about the last few weeks.
Last month or so, I've beenconsidering what to do about being called

(47:31):
a character. I don't like beingcalled the character. It's happened a couple
of times in the last month,and I find it incredibly insulting, and
I don't like it. And Ican't believe people are judging me now versus
then. Now I'm on the radio, I'm entertaining, I'm trying to be
funny, I'm trying to do things. I'm trying to be very out there,

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and I shouldn't be judged at thispoint in my life after forty years
of a career, solid serious businessguys A and I've had trouble coming to
grips with it, the same wayI had trouble coming to grips with fashion.
I've just seen posted on Instagram MarkWebb a dropping bombs and the fashion
rules at a black tie wedding.I loved it. Yeah, I was

(48:15):
all over that. But just likein fashion, how do I come to
grips with guys showing up in dressesor kilts or these funny outfits or no
socks or no shirts or whatever atblack tie events and on the runway,
etc. I just can't stand fashion. I was able to come up with
because if some Laurent and Coco Chanellesaid fashion comes and goals and styles forever,

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so I've recognized and reconciled that fashioncan exist whatever it is. You
want to make a fool yourself goright ahead. But style is enduring and
should have to have style, andI could deal with all these fashion faux
pas and deal with it and notget upset. But I come to the
conclusion sitting here in the middle ofthe night, thinking out tonight, being

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out there, how to deal withbeing a character? How to deal with
it? And I came up withsomething I dealt with a long time ago,
that my character is an alter ego, and I could adopt the fact
that when I am in character orbeing a character, it's a part of
me that I could put off tothe side and separate from the rest of

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myself. And I've come to gripswith us tonight as I sit here at
three o'clock in the morning, andI thought about the time that I became
escalante. Yeah, my alter egohere I am. I'm going through a
time when I started playing golf,and golf is a sport that if you
are alone, you can't play alone. They put you with other people and

(49:45):
you have to interact with strangers.And I remember being in Turnberry Isle in
Miami playing golf on their golf course, and I was playing with two German
businessmen and one of them in particulardecided he wanted to talk to me.
In his German accent, he said, so tell me who you are,
what do you do? And it'sthen that I realized, right then and

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there, that I no longer wantedto be Mark Webber with strangers. And
I said, my name is Escalante. I go by one name, and
I'm playing golf here, but Ireally live in Barcelona. It's a guy
goes, nah, you're not fromBarcelona. You know how I know?
And I said, yeah, I'lltell you how because I didn't say Barcelona.

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And then he looked at me differently. So you're really from Barcelona.
I said, yeah, I'm fromBarcelona. What do you do there?
I said, when I tell you, you're not going to believe me.
He said, no, tell me. I said, I'm a bullfighter,
and he goes, come on,you're not a bullfighter. I said,
I am a bullfighter. That's whatI did for a living. And he
looked at me like I was crazy. He says, tell me, how
did you become a bullfighter? That'sa long story. You really want to

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hear it. Now we're playing golfand we're going alon. I said,
well, I started as a highlightplayer in Miami. I got to a
point that I heard my ankle andmy wrist and elbow were affected by the
throwing of the siesta, and Icouldn't do it anymore. And I was
in these places, you know,South America, Brazil, Mexico, and

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I decided I'd become a bullfighter,and I was known as escalante and that's
what I did for a living.He said, you speak Spanish. I
said, no, this is howcould you be a bull fight if you
don't speak Spanish? I said,the bulls don't speak it either. To
make a long story short, Iwas reflecting on the night and it was

(51:35):
a peculiar place for me to bewhere I had to be front and center.
As a personal note, because I'mnot good with the warm and fuzzy
stuff. But I can only tellyou this, as a father, you
have responsibilities. You have responsibilities tofirst and foremost, be there for your
children, be a guiding light,help them, make sure you show interest

(51:59):
in them and support them. AndI thought about that tonight and I felt
that I've done well and I washappy, and I could picture my wife
saying to me, Mark, you'rea good boy. And then and of
itself made my night. So Jesse, congratulations. I'm so happy for you.

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Enjoy your honeymoon. I miss you. There's a new member of our
family, Hailey Weber. That's soexciting. And after all is said and
done, I'm finally going to saygood night. From Jesse's wedding at the Plaza Hotel