The Mighty Have Fallen

The Mighty Have Fallen

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There are moments that are so uncomfortable in life, so embarising,
you don't know where to hide. Sometimes it's things that
you might say. Sometimes you're sitting there and someone else
says it, you hear it. There are times you intentionally
created a situation, cringe worry moments, but most of the

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times you just don't realize either way. It doesn't matter.
Uncomfortable it is uncomfortable. Ignorance is no excuse for the law.
A person who is unaware of the law cannot escape liability.
By saying, you know, I didn't know they violated the law.
They're going to pay a price. Same in life, there's
no excuses. You're responsible for the discomfort, the unhappiness, whatever

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it is that you might create. You're responsible for, either
word or spoken or written. Sometimes you're a party to it.
Sometimes it doesn't matter. It doesn't make it any easier
if you're there, sitting there in life speaking out, creating
discomfort is what it is. It's uncomfortable now. I happen

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to find it funny when no one else does. Often
I have no filter. I'm impossible. I am in a
wired taste. I readily admitted when something gets really, really
cringe worthy. I kind of love that situation in that regard,
kind of like Larry David having said that when I'm
the cause, I always have a reason. Doesn't matter what

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my reason is. You could cut the air with a knife.
This week what got me thinking about this. We lived
through the most uncomfortable, cringe worthy hour in the history
of our country. We saw the ruling class falling stars
be forced to sit there through utter humiliation at the
hands of Donald Trump. He doesn't care, he doesn't take prisoners,

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He just says what he thinks he needs to say.
Trump's acceptance speech at his inauguration was utterly brilliant and
chillingly cold, seeing the entire hierarchyy of the Democratic leadership
being confronted with zero effort made for compromise, no punch

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is pull, no attempt at subtlety. He was in your
face the world. According to Trump, this was something to behold.
While the rest of the world was listening intently. I
had too much difficulty hearing. It's hard to hear when
you're leaving uncontrollably. Biden yikes, Kamala angry. They were trapped.

(03:22):
I wonder if they walked out where they have been
more respected in the eyes of the world. Hm. Even
the Republican former President Bush was uncomfortable. I loved it.
Trump was taking no prisoners, if you remember in the past,
and he ran for office in twenty sixteen. In the primaries,
they had the first primary debate, and there were sixteen

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candidates vying for the nomination, and he belittle Trump every
single one of those sixteen people besides himself. He outfoxed them, out,
debated each one, embarrassed them, made no friends. I thought
of the takedown of Jeb Bush, the anointed part of
the candidate. He walked away from political life after Trump

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got a hold of him. George w the father hates
him for ruining that dynasty and I'm a big Bush fan. Yikes.
It was cringe worthy. And then, of course, sitting there Biden,
all the Democrats, Trump didn't even offer a hand to
cross the aisle, not even a little, no attempt to unite.
It was uncomfortably crazy. He completely ignored the Democratic senators, congressman,

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former president's cabinet members, completely ignored them. And when he wasn't,
he was shattering their policies. He didn't care. He just
ignored Biden, he ignored Harris, he ignored all of them.
Oh my god. But that wasn't enough when he started saying,
really what he basically said to them, you ruined America,

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you morons, That was his message. Didn't quite say it
that way. He was worse. Pelosi didn't show up for
the presidential inaugury. Maybe a hip surgery or hate for Trump.
She lost. She doesn't like it. I don't like her,
but I respect her like crazy. When she ripped up
Trump stated the union's speech in front of the world. Priceless,

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what a woman. Obama barely there, no call outs. He's
on the losing team. They didn't even show him his
wife and no show. And I don't know if you noticed,
but no one cared. The Clintons relegated to Formers. Hillary
lost to Trump when she all but claimed the prize.
No prize for you, Hillary, and yet you sat there.

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I left what Trump said when he wanted to rename
the Gulf of Mexico. The problem is, I love the idea,
but apparently Hillary didn't. And she laughed at Trump. She
didn't like that one bit. And I wonder when Trump
seized that tape of her laughing. I can't wait to
see how he gets even But the audacity of Trump,
with Biden and Kamala sitting there, his words weren't just stings.

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They were slaps in the face around the world. This
is now the golden age of America that has begun
of Right now, from this moment on, America's decline is over.
We will not taken advantage of any longer. Because he
declares a national emergency at this Southerland border, a national
energy emergency. This was priceless, No thank you, no appreciation,

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to the President and the Vice president, just blame you
ruined America and they had to sit there and take it.
Most cringe worthy speech of all time. Now, many of
us believed they deserved it. Many of us believed they don't.
Many of us might believe they determined and they should
have deserved a more stately send off. But I tell you,

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I gotta love that stuff. Oh my gosh, I've said
the wrong things. I've done it. It's been my fault,
but it's my right. Hell has no fury as a
woman's scorned, it said, or Trump scorned over that matter,
Mark scorn tonight. I'm always in fact the mighty have
fallen and joining me, the rising Star, my lawyer, my
co host, my son, Jesse Weber.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
We love Mark. Mark is back. We love him. We
love him. He's a great American, fantastic you know.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Frankly, nobody thought I was going to be back, and
Mark always believed in me. That's why you're a winner.
And everybody who else didn't think I was going to
make it back, complete losers.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Why do you think you won?

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I won because this country is fed up with what's
going on.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
You look around, it's not our country. Anymore.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
You want to take your country back. We were in
the bronze age. Now we're in the Golden age, soon
to be in the platinum stage. They say platinum much
better than gold and wear gold sneakers. Let me tell
you something, we are going to be so back, even
more back than when we had Trump ice. You remember
that water bottle that we had Trump ice, Trump steaks.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's going to be fantastic. And let me tell you.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Trump time, Trump time. I heard all your commercials, watch.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
A lot of Peo people say, Oh, mister president, why
don't you be a little more humble, Why don't you
be unifying? Why don't you say, uh oh, thank you
President Biden for all that you've done. Come on, the
guy's been sleeping. What am I should thank him for?

Speaker 2 (08:11):
For naps? No truth be told, though I actually did hope.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I did hope that he was going to say something
a little more unifying. And you know, I think President
Biden did this last time, right he said, I know
for the people who didn't vote for me, I'm still
I'm going to be your president.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I would have liked Trump to just say that a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
No, one hundred percent, If I have any laughing aside,
if I have any regrets, he should have said, I'm
the president of all the people. I love you Democrats.
We have to change the country, and I want you
to agree with our principles and jump on board. We'll
all benefit from it. I would have loved that.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, although when he didn't do it, I said, Eh,
not surprised. Now you want to talk on you want
to talk uncomfortable. I mean, have you watched the Senate
confirmation hearings.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's uncomfortable. That's really uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I mean Pete Hegseth for Look, he's an American hero.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I mean he served.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Whether or not he has the qualifications to be, you know,
heading up the Defense department, maybe because he doesn't have
the expertise or he doesn't have the experience, but the
questions he's facing are not even necessarily I mean they
were about that, but a lot of them were about
his personal life and about allegations that he was abusive
or he engaged in sexual assault. And look, they buy

(09:31):
law have the right to ask him these questions.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
They do.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
It just makes for a very very uncomfortable situation. And
instead of you know, they tried to trick him right.
They tried to say, well, mister heg Seth, if I
told you someone was trying to be in this position
and they had abused these women, what would you say,
does that person be qualified? And he sidestepped in and says
those allegations are false, those allegations are false. He wouldn't

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play the hypothetical game. And you know who actually did
it better than him, Pam Bondy, who I think is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
She's up for attorney general.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
She had to face a lot of tough questions about
hypotheticals and whether or not Donald Trump has an enemy list.
I thought she handled herself better than anybody else.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (10:15):
I thought they both handled themselves very well. Whenever they
have these hearings, I'm always very proud to be an American.
I thought Marco Rubio did well. I thought Pete Hegseth
did a great job avoiding the answers. Of course, you know,
they accused him of being with a woman while he
was married, made her pregnant while he was married. They
made him look like a real bad guy, but he

(10:35):
was very professional, handled it very well. But when you
know we're talking about uncomfortable moments. Oh my gosh, those questions.
But there was some other senator or a congressman who
stood up when they accused him of showing up for
voting drunk. He said, is he the only one who's
ever been accused of it? You and I all know, Senators,
we've seen it. Don't deny it. We've seen it.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I think it was a mistake to focus so much
on the drinking, because how many people in so many professions.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I'd say it's a good thing.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
But if that's what you're getting the sword you're going
to die on, I think you lose political capital. They
shouldn't be focusing on that, and I think that's where
they lose ground. But look, I don't know if he's
going to be confirmed.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
We'll see.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah. So anyway, that was I'm talking, you know, the
mighty I've fallen. This was the Democratic senators who's leading
to charge again to look so bad. Nor a woman
who served for in the military, who was nothing but
the highest endorsements for him, made that whole thing better
than it would have been. I thought that was great.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I thought it was shocking.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
He does five sets of forty seven push ups a day.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I was like, Wow, that's pretty impressive. But yeah, that's
why he's a commander. By the way.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Talking the inauguration, I loved it the whole day. It's
one of those rare moments that you see both sides
coming together for tradition and for pomp and circumstance. Look,
you want to criticize Donald Trump, I think that the
fact that he didn't show up for Biden's four years
ago something that was a mistake of his. It's nice

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to see both sides coming together. You see the transition
of power, one side coming in, one side leaving. I
think it's amazing for our world to watch, and it was.
I was proud to be an American watching it.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Well, I gotta tell you, I thought the whole day
was beautiful. I think, you know, peaceful transfer of power,
all the pomp and circumstance, seeing will our leaders together,
listening to them speak. I thought that was amazing. I thought,
I can't help it. Every time I think about Biden

(12:41):
and Kamala haaw Is sitting there and Trump saying all
these things that everything they did failed, it was crazy.
Let me ask you a question. If Biden and Kamala
got up, what do you think the news would have said,
you think they would have treated them harshly or they would.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Have respected him for it.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think on the right they would have said, how
disgusting is that? You know, how could they leave in
the middle of the President's speech. And on the left
they would say, well, at least Biden show up, showed up.
Trump never showed up to his And what do you
expect them to do? They're gonna sit there and hear this,
this is true? How dare Trump bashed the president as
he's sitting right there. So I think whichever side they

(13:20):
would have either been praised or criticized.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah, he could have been a little more politically correct.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
But uh, like it was like it was like he
started the first part of the speech was you know senators,
Congress people, my family named all of them, President Biden,
the Supreme Court justices.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
And I thought he was gonna say, like, thank you
for all you do, goes, this is it the start
of a new era, the country's coming back.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
I was like, wow, just not even not even a
second to acknowledge. But you know what was interesting is
his behavior leading up to that speech seemed very complimentary, see,
very gracious.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
He kept saying thank you to President.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Biden and then immediately gets It's almost it's almost like
he didn't even read the speech. It was almost like
his speech didn't match up to how he'd been behaving
the rest of the day.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Look, he could have simply said, I want to thank
the President and Vice President for the work they've done.
I know they work tirelessly to try and make the
country better. I don't agree with those policies, and I
think the country has suffered from them, But having said that,
they're always different opinions, and I will take a different
approach and to that end, let me tell you what

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I'm going to do.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, he didn't do that.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
No, he was brutal. You know. Trump's a funny guy
and he's his followers. The people who believe in him
will march to the ends of the earth with him.
I could be one of them. But for me, it's
all about his ideas and his policies. I've done three
shows entitled common Sense Is Not So Common So of

(15:00):
course I'm excited by the President standing up and saying
we're going to return common sense back to government. And
in that regard, I was thrilled with the speech Okay, Jesse.
Will we see all the other senators and candidates up
for nomination be grilled.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Like that They should be.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
It's the job of the Senate to thoroughly vet them.
But I will tell you I think the ones to
really watch out for are RFK Junior and also Tulsa Gabbard.
Those are arguably the two most and Cash Battel, but
I think those are going to be some of the
more controversial ones. You know, a lot of people feel
like RFK, what exactly is.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
He going to do?

Speaker 3 (15:39):
They're concerned about the policies is going to take Tulsi Gabbard.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Although in America, what's the.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Deal with Telsey Gabar? I don't know anything about it.
Why is she questionable?

Speaker 3 (15:48):
There are those who say she has expressed sympathy for
Russia ties to Russia. She expressed sympathy towards the Bashar
al Assad regime in Syria, So there's question. It's a
she's an American hero. It does become a question should
she be the director of National Intelligence?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
We'll see.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Tell me again, why is she an American hero? I
really don't know anything.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
She served in the military.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
On that note, I'm of the opinion. Our government should
have no enemies. You know, I used to travel to Asia.
I wasn't allowed to go to Cuba. I wasn't allowed
to go here. I wasn't allowed to go to Miyam
Mars and for all good reasons, I'm sure, but I
believe our country should be friends with everyone. It's interesting
how China is friends with everyone. We don't have to
agree with anyone, We don't have to agree with everyone.

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But why can't we figure out how to find a
common ground? Now? It's tough with Russia. I was working
at LVMH in two thousand and eight, and up until
two thousand and eight, our relationship with Russia was amazing.
Every day we had people coming in from Russia into
our offices into DK. Why trying to do business now
that currency wasn't respected, We couldn't trust it. So there

(16:57):
was always cash deals or letter of credits open. But
the economy between both nations was crazy. It was like
the Gold Drive when the Americans went to the West
coast to search for gold. So many people were thriving,
stores were being built. Everyone was happy. And to tell
you the truth, money when the governments are making money,

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when people are making money, they're generally happy. I'd like
to see that happen again. With Russia. I don't know how.
I don't know how you do it, never mind for
what they created in you Ukraine. But you have to
get behind it. And I hope Trump is all over
that we should bring Russia into the fold and make
sure they never do this again. I don't know how.
And China, Look, they have all kinds of terrible stuff

(17:40):
going on in China with our country, but I gotta
believe we do the same thing. We have no choice.
So friends, I don't want enemies. How's that?

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, look, how do they perceive America? Do they perceive
us as a friend or an enemy?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
You know?

Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's I think you have to remember that there's a
reason their categorize as enemies or competitors for a fair reason.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, I guess you're right, all right with that As
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Speaker 4 (19:58):
My the have fallen. I have to admit I am happy,
somewhat relieved and excited about the future of the country.
Why because I think we went too far to the left.
I think the country is safest better in the middle. Now,
there are many social policies that I agree with with

(20:22):
the left, particularly the women's right to choose. Those of
you who think I'm crazy, but I'm a title to
an opinion. But when it comes to the way the
country is managed on an international basis, I've sided with
the Republicans. When it comes to the economy, I've sided
with the Republicans. When it comes to common sense, I've
sided with the Republicans. So get over it, and I'm

(20:44):
willing to give the Republicans a chance. The Democrats have
given it a chance, and with all due respect which
is a sentence that generally speaking, has one hundred percent
chance of not being appreciated. With all due respect to
the Democrats, we have two boys raged around the world,
let alone the ones we don't even talk about. The
inflation has been through the roof, interst rates are through

(21:06):
the roof. We have crime growing, we have borders that
are open. We have a lot of unhappy people. We
have moved too far, and I think it's time for change,
and I'm excited about it now. Having said that, tonight,
I'm talking about how uncomfortable the world could be if
we have no filters. Look, I'm no angel. I've met

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enemies of people I needed or respected, but still they
were right to be upset with me. Doesn't mean I
don't feel vindictive. Vanity my favorite sin. Hey Jess, what's
that fro.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
The al Pacino movie where the Devil's advocate.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yes, sir, vanity my favorite sin. I've tried this line,
and as I said before, with older respect, I've learned
that has zero chance of working. So all those people
that I'm going to offend or have a did, I apologize.
But before I go there, Biden didn't get even a
touch of charity, let alone, rapped in dignity, he got nothing.

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The former president was mould and humiliated by Donald Trump.
He got to be No One in front of the world.
The former used to be was a matter of moments
from being the man, the president of United States to
becoming no one. He was forgotten and relegated to the

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former with no chance whatsoever to redeem his legacy. He
used to be important. One of the saddest things I've
seen and always look at my life was the president
getting on Marine one. Now Biden didn't get on Marine
one because Marine one is the designation for the helicopter

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for the president of the United States. Now he's just
getting on a helicopter with no designation. And he was resentful,
and apparently so was his wife Jill also forma used
to be No one was there watching. There was no
marching band, there was no handshaking, there was no thank you,
mister President, there was nothing fired forgotten in seconds, and

(23:19):
no one cared. No one watched. I want you to
hold that thought for a minute. Can you imagine what
that feels like? Can you imagine that hi of being
the president of the United States. Wherever you go, they
play that music, and people are waiting to hear what
they have to say, and they're bowering. Is it? And
it goes to nothing? And I have a story to tell.

(23:41):
Long before I was on the radio and podcast, I
used to be important. I was Jesse. You remember when
I was important.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I still think you're important, but according to you your definition,
I remember when you were important.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yes, well, what don't you agree about me not being
important anymore?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I think you're important. I just think you're important in
a different way. You might not be.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
You know the man that everybody's looking at when you
walk into a store. One of your stories like you
when you would walk in your picture was in the
back and they were expecting to see you.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
And you were like a celebrity.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Sure that's different, but you're still important to your family
and your friends and your colleagues.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
I had a woman today who's looked me up on
Instagram and she wrote me on LinkedIn, you look like
a movie star? Who are you?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's nice?

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Well, I answered it. I used to be important anyway.
When I was important, everyone wanted a piece of me.
People used to push people out of the way to
get to shake my hand. People would befriend my personal
assistant beg Her or Consola to put them on my calendar.
People would inquire as my schedule. They would try and

(24:51):
figure out my timing, where am I for business this day,
Where am I going to be personally that day, to
figure out how to catch my attention. Everyone wanted my
opinion or needed first sign off. Thousand emails a day
until there was none, when then I no longer was important.
But you see, I knew it was coming. Biden didn't.

(25:13):
Biden didn't know what's going to happen. Yes, you could
see it in his face. Trump demoralized him, He slammed him,
he slapped him, He turned them into nothing puddy. And
then he gets on that helicopter alone and he's looking around.
There's no one there. Now back to me, I was
prepared to become unimportant, And I'll tell you why. One day,

(25:33):
on a fateful trip to Miami, I'm sitting on a plane,
minding my own business. I'm sitting next to this prosperous
looking guy. He was about I'd say, well, I know
how old he was because I asked him. In the end,
he's sixty six years old. And I was minding my business.
He starts to talk to me. He says, my name
is Charlie. Who you And I said, my name is Mark.
And he says, what do you do Mark? And I said,

(25:54):
oh my god, I got one of these. I'm on
a plane. It's the one place in the world he
bothers you. At least they shouldn't bother you. And I'm
generally happy to have my own counsel and nobody to
bother me and ask me questions. But Charlie started to
ask me questions. And my technique for dealing with people,
particularly who want to piece to me, is when they
asked me a question, I ask it back. I'd rather

(26:17):
have them talking than I talked. And I said, well,
I'm the CEO of a company called LVMH. She so,
I know lvm AGE. What do you mean to see?
I'm the CEO of the Americans run a bunch of
companies for them, and that's what I do for a living.
I said, what do you do, Charlie? He said, I'm
an attorney. I said, you know, that's great. My sons
are becoming attorneys. And what's it like He said, well,

(26:39):
I've never really practiced. Now he's got my attention. I figured,
I'm going to learn about being attorney. I'll pass on
whatever I learned to the boys. Why don't you practice?
It's a long story, he said. The truth is, if
you asked me what I did for my career, I
used to be a doctor. I said, you're kidding. You're
a doctor, now your attorney exactly. I said this I
have to hear, and I got him to talk, and

(27:01):
he said, I was a plastic surgeon in Miami. He says,
I was one of the most famous plastic surgeons in Miami.
If you would go to let's say a Miami Dolphins
football game, you would see women holding up billboards and
charts that would say and then it would say I
have Charlie's chest, and hey would talk about me because

(27:21):
I was so well known in Miami as a surgeon.
So I'm laughing at he's saying that. So he gets
into this, he said, I started to get older and
my hands started to shake, and I realized that I
couldn't be a surgeon any longer. So I thought about
what to do with my time. I didn't want to retire,
so I decided I would become a lawyer. I started
studying though. I went to law school, I passed the bar,

(27:43):
and I decided to be a lawyer. But a funny
thing happened to me along the way. While I was
doing this. I thought about retiring, and I wrote a
book on retirement, and it became a national best seller.
And if you're asking me where I am today on
the plane with you, all I do now is travel
around the country talking about retirement, talk about the book
I wrote on retirement. So now I'm fascinating. Here's this

(28:06):
guy who I didn't even want to talk to. Turns out,
not only is he a lawyer who was a doctor,
now he's written a book. So I said, Charlie, you
got to do me a favor. He said, what are
the key movements? What are the key things someone needs
to do to be successful in retirement? He said, Mark,
that's a great question. Because I'm talking, I'm going to
give you. I'm going to give you the abridge version.

(28:26):
There are three things a man like yourself who wants
to retire needs to be successful. He looked at me,
say you think it around retiring. I said, maybe in
twenty years. He said, well, let me tell you nonetheless,
I think you're going to retire before twenty years. You
look like a successful guy. You don't need to work
for so long. You're too young to retire, but you
look like you're doing well, and maybe you will earlier.
But here are the three things you need. First and foremost,

(28:49):
one person needs to understand how much money they have
and how much money they need. You live a certain lifestyle.
You might leave in a house. You might if you're
in Florida, have a boat. You might have all these
things and bells and whistles and boys toys. You have
kids in school. You have to understand how much money
you need to live. If you're going to retire, can

(29:10):
you afford it? Or you need to work some other
kind of job or you can't afford it. You have
to understand your finances because otherwise you will not be happy.
Number two, do you play golf? Mark? What do you
do for recreation? I said, I walk? I play golf.
He said, okay, Let's take your day. Get up in
the morning, you walk, walk for an hour. I said yeah.

(29:30):
He said, you play golf. Yeah, said, you finish at
twelve o'clock. Let's assume you're going to play golf every day.
What are you going to do with the rest of
your life starting at twelve o'clock. How you're going to
keep busy, how you're going to keep your mind active.
Successful retirement requires time management. Someone to understand what to
do with themselves so they stay vibrant, and they stay interested,

(29:53):
and they keep going. You don't want to sit in
your house and count the sheep. You don't want to
be taking naps all day long. That's number two, So
your finances and time management. And he said the third
one is the most important. It kills more men than
you can ever imagine, and that is living without the juice.

(30:15):
I said, what does that mean? Said, you're a big shot.
Now you're important. Now everybody wants to hear what you
have to say. Everybody needs a piece of you. Everybody's
sending you telexis, everybody's sending you Texas. Everybody's calling you.
They want to know what Mark has to say. You
retire the following morning, no messages on your iPhone zero,

(30:37):
You're gone. You're no longer important. And then he used
the example of Bill Clinton showing up at the airport
for his helicopter ride to wherever he was going, and
no one was there, and what it felt like for
Bill Clinton to give up the juice, to no longer

(30:59):
have that feeling of importance. And that's what got me
thinking about Biden yesterday. Bringing you back to this full circle.
It wasn't enough that he was humiliated. It wasn't enough
that his vice president was humiliated. It wasn't enough that
he was humiliated in front of his wife. It wasn't

(31:19):
enough that he was amiliated in front of his party,
in front of the world, in front of the United States.
He no longer was important, he was relegated to former
And watching him get on that helicopter and then watching
the plane land in San Diego where he's going to California,
I believe, to look for a home. The idea that

(31:41):
he was no longer president stuck with me. Well, I
know the power and the weight of that, And I
know the power and the weight of that.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Well, let me tell you something. You have nothing to
worry about.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Why, because he's going to run again in four years
when he's you know, eighty six years old. Yeah, I
bet huh what not a good idea?

Speaker 4 (32:04):
No, I think I'm more afraid of Kamala coming back.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
I know she says she doesn't want to leave politics,
that she's going to come back.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
She was kind of ruined.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
You know what's crazy.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
I was hosting the other day and I was like,
how many people voted for Kamala Harris. Seventy five million
people voted for her. Now, it was I wonder how
much it was.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
We'p approve of her.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
We'll vote whoever the Democratic candidate is, or will just
you know it's not a Trump vote. I don't know,
but seventy five million voted for her.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
I got a question for you, Okay, who is the
guy who shot up all the people and he got
off on the technicality Dave's self defense? What was his name?
You covered his trial?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Kyle Rittenhouse?

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah, okay. If Kyle Rittenhouse run for office as a Democrat,
he gets seventy five million votes.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Huh if it was against Donald Trump, yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
I don't care who you put up. I think Diddy
would get seventy five million votes.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
I think Alec Baldwin would get seventy five million votes.
I think anybody the Democrats would have seventy five million votes.
Let's face it, with all the respect to Kamala Harris,
back to the twenty sixteen election, she was off the
stage after the first night. She came back in twenty
off the stage, nobody wanted her, and here she becomes

(33:22):
vice president and then kendidate for president. I don't particularly
like her policy, she's too far left. But she's a
wonderful woman, I'm sure. But it didn't matter she was not.
I always thought Trump would lose because he's so disliked,
but apparently she was mister liked more than him. So
in answer to your question, I think it has nothing
to do with her. It has to do with being

(33:44):
a Democrat and the other team wants to win. That
is a backdrop. The mighty have fallen back in a moment.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
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Speaker 1 (36:21):
Welcome back to it always in fashion. Here's your host,
Mark Webber.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
My oh my, have the mighty fallen this country has done?
In about face? We got seventy seven million people dancing
for joy. We have seventy five million people acting up
already angry. The honeymoon is over. I'm watching all the tapes.
I'm watching the division again. I'm watching the networks that

(36:47):
are divide divided. I'm watching those that are leading towards
the left, hating the right, the right hating the left.
I'm watching, but the mighty have fallen, and there's a
new sheriff in town. It was this is brutal, watching
Biden take the shellacking, watching him go from him the
president of the United States, the most criticized man in

(37:09):
the world, ridiculed by his friends, let alone the Republicans,
forced to step down, relegated to no One, from president
to forgotten in a minute, the mighty have fallen. Hey,
I could tell you I've had my ups and downs.
I've had a career that was never a straight line
to the top. So I got promoted, I got demoted,
I got promoted, I got fired. It was never easy.

(37:31):
But what was always easy for me was making the
world uncomfortable. And because of that I loved it. I
show up in radio one of my favorite stories in
the world. You know, before I go to radio Jesse,
you know the story you me shirts and the turbul
and Assa.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Oh my gosh, talk about uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
That's one of the most uncomfortable experiences of my life.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
I think we've told this story before, but we're constantly
getting new listeners. And not everyone listens to everything. So
we were talking one time about how impossible I could be.
And you want to talk about making people uncomfortable, this
is a great story.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Go ahead and for those of for those of you
who heard this story, you'll never forget it.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
That's how uncomfortable this is. So I was shot.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
We were shopping for tuxedo shirts for my wedding. You
me and my brother Jared, and we went into the
store called Turnbull and Asser, which is a very elegant
store that.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
You you know, you go into for these kinds of.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
British company with the head squarters in the United States
on Fifth Avenue and Well Street.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
And we were looking around, and more specifically, one of
the shirts that they have is the shirt that Daniel
Craig wore in Casino Royale as James Bond, the tuxedo shirt.
And we were asking this sales associate, this woman, about
whether or not she had the shirt, and there was
confusion about what shirt she had. There was confusion about
what we were looking for. We were very clear, but

(38:52):
she was quite confused as to what we were looking
for and giving us answers back and forth about this.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
So at one point you say to She says to you,
I'll go downstairs and i'll check it.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Okay, she she she walks away.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
And you before you tell the story, you got to
remind everybody that if there's one thing in this world,
I'm expert at its shirts. I spent my career working
for the venues and shirt company. I know everything about
making shirts. I'm an expert. Now you can continue.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
So she turns around to leave, and you turn around
and you don't realize that she hasn't walked away. She's
still right there, right behind you. And you say quite
loudly to me and Jared, she's useless. And I I
looked at her face.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
She turned white.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I melted into the ground. I was so uncomfortable. I
went into the corner and pretended like I was a mannequin.
That's how uncomfortable I was. I didn't know where to turn.
It was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever seen. You Literally,
she's useless, and I was, Oh, I was uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
She's useless. She has no idea what she's talking about.
That was the exact quote. Oh. Then when I turned
around and saw her, I thought, oh, you're still here.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Oh it was it was bad.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
We couldn't get out of that fast enough.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, it was bad.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
You know, I have a couple other stories. You know,
I'm known for this stuff. I had a friend, I
met a woman. We were friends. I knew her from business.
We were hanging out having lunch one day, a bunch
of people sitting there, and I was talking about my
weight loss. I've shared that with you a number of times,
back in two thousand and eighteen, starting in sixteen, but

(40:38):
twenty eighteen, I was fifty some odd pounds and I'm
so proud. I mentioned the first show of the year
that I've kept the weight off all these years later.
Losing weight is very, very difficult. I don't know what
it's like in the world of ozembic, but I did
it the hard way. I earned it, cut calories, was
very careful, gave up a lot of things I should need.
I was very diligent lost. I was sitting around I

(41:01):
was telling a story how I lost the weight, and
this young lady was sitting next to me, and she
happens to say, I need to lose five pounds, and
in front of all the people, I looked at her
and I said, no, fifty.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Terrible terrible.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
How comfortable was that?

Speaker 2 (41:21):
And she wasn't laughing? Let me tell you.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Oh no, no, no, no no, and yeah, as the
story goes, you know, she really wouldn't talk to me.
You could see she was so upset and embarrassed. Rightfully
she should be. So that night I called her and said, listen,
I can't apologize enough. You know, I was only kidding.
You don't need to lose fifty pounds. She goes, oh, no, Mark,

(41:45):
how many do I need to lose?

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Smart? And you know what, yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Know, silence, Yeah what I said, fifty pounds, but you
look better. Shung up the phone, never saw her, never
spoke to her again. But you know, I have a
history of this stuff. My favorite story, my favorite story
was when I started working in the radio. You know,
when it comes to radio, I just do what I do.

(42:11):
I'm not experienced. I've only been doing this seven years.
I'm dealing with people who did it for a lifetime.
I know, my career for a lifetime. I was CEO
of two big companies. All the jobs I had along
the way, vice president, senior vice president, executi, vice president, CEO,
board member, I mean I had all these titles, so
apparently I knew a lot about what I was doing,
and I'm an expert at business, but radio, what do

(42:33):
I know? I only know that I can tell stories,
and I know that from you folks out there that
you like what we're doing, so we keep doing it.
But I've run into executives in the radio business from
day one, and I've never really been happy to this date.
To be perfectly frank, I'm still not happy. I have
a show that I believe should be syndicated all throughout

(42:56):
the country, And if you ask me seven years later,
do I know how to get that done? The answer
is no. Now, if this was the early part of
my career, and this is the beginning and part of
my career, all my sponsors and I would demand demand
syndicating the show were gone. I just don't think we're
important enough. I don't think it matters, and I have

(43:17):
not been able to make the case consistently enough to
any of the stations I've worked with. Here wr I
can't seem to get syndicated. I don't understand why. I
know the show is good, I know the people like it,
we have sponsorship, and I'm willing to do it. But
that was my goal, and if I've ever failed, I've failed,
I admit it. I came in big advertising the first year,

(43:40):
great ratings. Interestingly enough, my ratings were the best when
I followed baseball games. And it's with that time that
I learned that very often people put on their radio
in their cars, in their homes. They never changed the channels.
So if you have a good lead in like a
baseball game, people are gonna hear you. All of a sudden.
We were finding my ratings would spike in the summer
through the roof because those people listen to the radio

(44:03):
for the baseball games. You're listening to us. So I
started to learn and learn and learn. So finally I
asked for a meeting with the top people at the station,
and I was granted that meeting. It's after only a
couple of months. So I show up to the meeting
and the lead guy, the station manager, whose name I
won't mention. I would because I have nothing bad to
say about him, but I won't mention his name. He

(44:25):
wasn't there. He's an admirable guy, someone to be respected,
and everything about him I liked, except the way he
treated me, which I'll get into in a moment. Anyway,
I show up for the meeting, A whole team of
people are there, Jesse's there, I'm there, the whole team
of people, all the underlinks from vice president on down.
And we wait ten minutes, fifteen minutes, and finally I say,

(44:45):
you know, I can't wait any long. I'm gonna tell you,
and I go through forty five minutes of what I
want to accomplish on the radio. What I'm prepared to deliver,
who's going to come with me, my sponsors, what they're
going to pay, what I want to show them to
matriculate into. This is what I want from the station.
Lay it all out, they all take notes everything, and
then after I'm done, the station manager comes waltzing into

(45:07):
the meeting. Hey, I'm sorry, I'm late. You know I
was negotiating with I miss. I had my hands full
of silent, and unfortunately I got pissed off. I've been
here for forty five minutes with all your people, and
now you want me to do this again. If you
would have seen the look on that guy's face, you
would have known our relationship was dead and over. Everyone

(45:31):
in that room didn't know where to go. Man. After
all he's the boss of everyone, and I'm basically calling
and out and it was the most uncomfortable. I even
knew enough to know it was uncomfortable. Just so happened.
We were having dinner that night, and during dinner that night,
I tried to well, I wouldn't apologize, but I certainly
tried to put it behind us and share with him

(45:52):
what I thought was important. He was very generous, he
was a gentleman. He was a good guy. But after
that moment, we never ever so I die together. And
I will tell you that through the course of our relationship,
he was always very good at pointing out how stupid
I was, and how I needn't know anything about the
future of radio, and that podcasts were coming and they'd

(46:13):
be more important than radio. And I'm glad he knew
it and he was right, or to a degree, whatever degree,
he was right, and it doesn't make him better With
showing up late for my meeting, However, I acted inappropriately.
I lost my cool, and when you're in life, you
lose your cool, you lose So at that moment in time,

(46:33):
this mighty guy had fallen. I've never achieved my goal
in radio. I hope you people continue to listen out there.
I hope you enjoyed the show, but I admit I
have a goal. I'm not getting anywhere near that. If
you want write the station, call the station, tell him
you live in houses and other countries and other cities,
and you want me to be on the radio view
and I'm sure they'll answer you. Listening to him on

(46:55):
podcasts back in a minute.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
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Speaker 1 (48:48):
Com, Welcome back to it Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Webber Tonight's show, The Mighty Have Fallen. I have watched
with amusement, laughter, glee, the discomfort caused by President Trump,
his ability to insult with a smile on his face,
without a care in the world, to call out what
has been done argumentably so wrong to our country, not

(49:13):
caring for the least bit. Who's there, who's there to defended,
who thinks they've done a good job. It's amazingly funny.
There is something to be said for having a filter,
having a screen, having a sense of what's going on
around you. I admit I'm an acquire taste. I've made
more excuses and more mistakes in my life, enjoying it,

(49:34):
doing it, knowing I'm doing it. But I've watched what's
happened in the country, and I think we're moving in
a new direction now. Jesse, before we close this out,
are you happy with what's going on this week?

Speaker 3 (49:44):
I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful. I think the country needed to change.
I think the country needed a change. Clearly they wanted
to change. And whether you voted for Donald Trump or not,
you just have to wish success for the new administration
and that's all you can do.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
So I'm hopeful.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
I think people with an open mind, with common sense
would be buoyant about the changes that are going to happen.
I think some of them make a lot of sense.
Tie up the borders, lock this country down, invest in
our future, make the country prosperous, move from the left
to the center, do the things that need to be done,
and will be better for it. We have seventy seven

(50:20):
million people dancing in the street to YMCA, there's another
seventy five million. Put on your dancing shoes. Give the
president a chance, support him. Maybe we can come together.
Maybe we could fight off the things that don't make
any sense that can hurt the country. But maybe, just
maybe common sense will work, because at the moment, common
sense is not so common. Having said that, the mighty

(50:42):
have fallen and it's funny to be watching it. Good Night,