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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's the term you use for people like Brian Williams
who got fired from NBC or Joe Biden, people that
make up these stories all the time. Fabulousts, And what
is the definition of that. It's not the same as
being a liar, not precisely. No, it's the sort of
person who enhances and exaggerates to the point of fictionalizing
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stories and can't seem to help themselves. Yeah, it seems
to be a compulsion, right, because in many cases, like
with Brian Williams or with Joe Biden, is we're about
to find out you get caught regularly, but.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You keep doing it. It's weird.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So this first clip you're gonna hear this is Joe
Biden from day before yesterday. He's at a church in
the South and where those were that scumbag shot a
bunch of people who are praying with him. Yeah, terrible case.
But there he is exploiting it for politics, and he
makes a claim about civil rights. I'm doing this in
a particular order to make the point, I think. So
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he makes another claim about being involved in the civil
rights movement. Then the clip goes to nineteen eighty seven
because he was running for president, and he had gotten
caught in all kinds of different made up stories, and
he's like really laying out how he like burying his
soul and how he was not involved, and that's important
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to the next clip we're going to hear.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
But anyway, this clip is the first one from a
couple of days ago, the nineteen eighty seven where he
refutes his own stories.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Here you go, I've spent more time in the Bethel
Miami Church in Wilmington, Delaware than I have than most
people I know black or we are going to spend
that church because that's where I started and civil No,
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I started a civil rights movement.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
During the sixties. I was, in fact, very concerned about
the civil rights movement. I was not an activist. I
worked at an all black swimming pool in the east
side of Wilmington, Delaware.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I was involved.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I was involved and what they were thinking, what they
were feeling. I was involved, but I was not out marching.
I was not down in Selma, I was not anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So he was trying to come clean back in eighty
seven and he's like, you can't say you were involved
in the civil rights movement because you thought the same
things other people thought.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I mean, because you heard people at the pool say stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah. But anyway, so this is a long montage, and
it's pretty long, but it's it makes it. Being long
makes the point how many times this is over decades.
It starts with Jake Tapper saying, what is the deal
with this guy? This has been debunked many times. It
ends with Jake Tapper in between. It's all Joe Biden
making these claims in different ways over many, many, many years.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
When I marched in the Civil rights movement, I did
not march with a twelve point program. I marched with
tens of thousands of others to change attitudes.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Should we changed attitudes.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
He lied to voters, according to The New York Times,
quoting aids of Bidence about having marched in the Civil
rights movement.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I got involved in the civil rights movement if we
got involved in desegregated movie theaters. The organized voter registration
drives from the time I got involved as a high
school kid in the civil rights movement. But I was
a kid involved in the civil rights movement, desegregated restaurants
and movie theaters in my state. From the time I
got involved with kid in the Civil Rights movement, sit
ins and desegregating restaurants. And I got involved in the
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Civil Rights movement just as a kid. And that's why
I got so deeply involved in my community with the
civil rights movement. When I sat in black churches in
the east side of Wilmington getting ready to and by
the way, next to two Jewish rabbis getting ready to
go out and desegregate movie theaters in Delaware.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Out the Civil Rights move.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I started off in the black churches and we'd go
from there to desegregate movie theaters.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
For real.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I got involved in the Civil rights movement.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
From the time I've been eighteen years old.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I've been involved in causes from the Civil Rights movement,
got involved in the Civil Rights movement and restaurants, that
kind of thing. Coming out of the Civil Rights movement
and being involved with the Jewish community as a kid
in the Civil Rights.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Movement, I got involved with the Civil rights movement.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Getting ready to restaurants, movies. It's just what got me
involved with civil rights as a kid. I got very
gaze in my case the Civil Rights movement.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Quote more than once advisors had gently reminded mister Brod
Biden of the problem with this formulation. He had not
actually marched during the Civil rights movement, and more than
once mister Biden assured them that he understood and kept
telling the story anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That is really really weird.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yes, Jake Tapper of CNN, that is really really weird.
If it were merely lying, that would be one thing,
and it would be you know, terrible and just self
aggrandizing and stupid. But I really think there's that that
weird phenomenon where a person can't reconcile their self in
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image with their reality and so they change reality to
reflect what they what their self image is. You think
he so feels like he should have been involved in
the civil rights movement that he says that, yeah, phrasing
how you want. He so wishes he had or he's
the sort of guy who would have. It just didn't
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happen that he was because of you know where he
wasn't but he one hundred percent would have. And that
becomes I was in certain people's brains and he didn't
work on He didn't help disgregate movie theaters and dinery.
He didn't do any of those things that's been Washington Post,
New York Times have done many articles about this and
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couple into march in anything. No, he agreed with the marchers,
which is nice, but you don't get to say all that.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And that nuts though. I mean, how many times and
that's probably fraction.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I mean, because he's been in politics since I was seven,
He's been a US senator since I was seven years old,
and I'm old. How many times has he said that?
That's just so weird? I know, weird is one word
for it. Safe district, I guess, I don't know, safe state.
He's got a big name. Well, that's inexcusable. Up until
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relatively recently, you couldn't get caught. I mean, nobody could
compile a thing like that. You couldn't hardly get caught.
It was very difficult to prove this sort of stuff.
Although he did get caught in eighty seven when he
was running for president. That's what that in another plagiarism
thing drove him out of the raise in eighty eight
to be the nominee for the Democratic Party. And as
you heard there, he had to come clean and say
I agreed, I was involved, and I thought the same
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things they did.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
But no, I did not.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It's so strange. I just I find myself thinking about
the state of our political process where somebody that delusional
and or and I think it's a dishonest is in
the spot he's in and they're allegedly running him up
the flagpole again, although I don't think they are well.
As Jake Tapper points out there at the end, it's
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been pointed out to him by AIDS and he says
he'll stop, and then he keeps going. You know, I
think we're to the point. Although what percentage of people
are aware of this? That's always an interesting question. I
was gonna say, this is yet another example of all right,
I say we convey in a jury, how does the
first Tuesday in November work for you? And then we'll
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vote on it. Is this guy such a crack body
shouldn't hold office or not? Or does that bother you
more or less than January six? Yeah, that's what the
referendum is going to be on all that stuff. Yeah, yeah,
it is a mark I think of our modern tribal
politics though, that somebody can be that bats insane and
loopy and still be taken seriously as a candidate. We're
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not a serious people. He flies the flag on one side,
so they say, oh, look he's got our flag.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I'll vote for him.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
But imagine if somebody sat you down and said, look,
they're on to you, Joe. You can't keep saying you
were nearly a major League baseball player that scouts came
and looked at you, because everybody knows that's not true.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Now us in the Dodgers organization triple Hey.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, and then you go to a rollery club meeting
and you say it again, We're going national TV.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And talk about it. He's so weird.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Look, Jack, that story you tell all the time about
being a circus performer and Ringling Brothers Washington Posts giving
you four pinocchios. There's no tape of you being in this.
You got to stop saying it. Ringling Brothers just made
a statement that you've never been employed by the circus. Okay,
I get it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I get it.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
So where I was on the trip piece hanging my
wadden finger, the crowd's jerking me on the fact that
a dude like that exists is fine.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I get that. The fact that he's Potus and they.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Want to run him for Potus again, I just again,
we are in a strange spot historically speaking.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, and that's one of several stories.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That's the fire where he had to rescue his wife,
and the being arrested with Nelson Mandela, to name a few.
Oh right, somebody said, excuse me, you can't go this way,
you gotta go that way when he was with Mandela,
which became I was arrested with Mandela.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You were told you gotta stay on the sidewalk, and.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Most days used to remember the straight race. You'd bang
him on the curb, get him.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Rush no, put him in a rain barrel, get him
rush no.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No. I don't remember that, and I don't believe you
ever did it. And if porn corn pop, porn pop,
if cornpop existed, I'm sure the two of you had
a disagreement about, hey, please don't jump on the diving board.
I didn't, just don't jump, okay, And that mute hated
in his mind to the giant chain v knife melee
with corn pop.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
But I your head, doesn't it have the same feel
to it? Yes, it does. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
He had a mild disagreement with some dude named Cornpop
lasted ten seconds and everybody said, okay, all right, fine,
but no, that became this this, you know Black Knight
at the speaking of Monty Python references, you know Bloodfest
that is, you know, his.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Brief of wild stories he tells. And Cornpop was a
bad dude.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, all right, fine, he ran a bad bunch of boys,
or he didn't or whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
And he ran a bunch of bad boys.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
He probably there was a local boy scout leader Armstrong
and