August 1, 2023 • 10 mins
This Hunter Biden situation is getting spicy. Joe Biden is lying. Also, Jack made the point that we're not talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars, we're talking about MILLIONS.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So Devon Archer testified behind closed doors in front of
the House Oversight Committee about the payments that flowed to
the Biden family from Barisma and various other oligarchs and
Chinese companies. What have you?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You know what you know what gets left out of this?
You say in payments everything? Again, it's like, it's not
like it's tens of thousands of dollars or even hundreds
of thousands of dollars changed hands. Was it total down
twenty one million dollars or something like that. Oh yeah,
Oh my god, that's a lot of money. That is
(00:35):
so much money. And according to some, including Devon Archer,
we never gave anybody anything for it. We were just
ripping them off. There was no influence pedaled. That's the
current story, although he did admit that Biden talked many
many times to his and Hunter's business associate. Even if
that's true, and we'll get to the back and forth
of it in a second, whether it was just the
(00:56):
illusion of influence or actual you know, got something for it? Mmm,
how is your kid? If one of my kids ends
up with a lifestyle where he makes twenty one million dollars, Wow,
I feel like I'm gonna ask him some questions. Why
you're really doing well? I mean, I'm so proud of you.
(01:17):
What is it exactly you do again? I mean, because
this is extraordinary. I mean, you're among the most successful people.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
In the world. Well, according to Joe Biden, never even
discussed it. Although that is utterly blown up now, as
you'll hear in the clips to come.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Picture that with your kids. Can't help but notice you've
got four homes, four really expensive homes. You'd drive a
number of two hundred thousand dollars cars.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I just can't help. But notice it's just wow, you've
really done well. I wouldn't ask a single question. I
wouldn't even say, how's work going?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
What industry are you in? Exactly your own son.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You're making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Nope, never came up, never came on. Hilarious, Yeah, yeah, Well,
and we have some some spin back and forth and
some hilariously biased journalism as well, quote unquote journalism. Let's
start with Democratic Congressman Dan Goldman his interpretation of what
we all learned. Why don't we say, let's go with
(02:25):
thirty thirty.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Two Michael Devon Archer was Hunter Biden's business partner and
what he testified to yesterday completely absolves Joe Biden of
any involvement in Hunter Biden's business world. And notwithstanding whatever
alleged smoke Chairman Comer says there is, the witness testimony
(02:49):
was very clear that Joe Biden was not involved in
any of their business dealings. Joe Biden got no benefit.
Joe Biden did not change any of his actions for
or the benefit of his son in any way.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Shape or form.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, so they've moved the what we needed to prove
way over here now. So it started with you know,
I've never talked to my son about business. Now it's
there's no proof of having gotten anything for the money.
I would say, as I said last hour that unless
something new comes out, I don't think it's going to
(03:24):
go any farther than this, unfortunately, but that's just my opinion.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Well, let's not leap to the conclusion quite yet. Here's
James Comer on the other side of the argument in
thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
But let's look at what Devin Archer testified today. He
said that not only was Joe Widen on the phone
over twenty times, with people, including the Barisma executives. Even
though the President denied that he never spoke to any
of these people. He also said that Hunter Biden was
under immist pressure while they both served on the Barisma
board to call Washington d C. Immediately and try to
(03:58):
get Choken fire. That's the Ukrainian prosecutor. And not many
days later, Joe Biden traveled to Ukraine, and we've all
seen the video that where Joe Biden brags about with
holding four an aid to Ukraine in exchange for Ukrainian
president firing the prosecutor who is investigating his son's corrupt
(04:19):
energy company.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
That is a heck of a coincidence.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And then on the topic of the moving goalposts, let's
play forty five and forty back to back. Joe Biden
and Jonathan Turley Michael forty five and forty.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I have never discussed with my son, or my brother
or anyone else, and they haven't do with their businesses period.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
It's really unbelievable. You know, you have now an account
of these meetings talking about getting rid of Victor Schoken,
the prosecutor, and calls being made to the Vice president
at that time. Joe Biden you have an account of
over twenty such calls, and you have someone who says, yes,
(05:01):
the President was part of moving the brand, Well what
was the brand? I mean, this was an influenced peddling
brand and the object of that influence pedaling was Joe Biden.
He was an essential part of that and he played
that role. So if this is true, then the president
has lied. He lied during the presidential debate, He's lied
(05:23):
for years, and he's had staff at the White House lie.
That's always a serious matter. And the next question is
why did he lie.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
That's a really good question. Well the answer is pretty
plainly that it's because he profited mightily from the family business.
But listen, Joe Biden is a gaff machine and a
buffoon in a lot of ways. He's not stupid, and
Jim Biden is absolutely not stupid. And Hunter Biden, though
(05:56):
an attic and erratic, is not stupid. They understan stood
that the key aspect of their scheme was they had
to preserve plausible deniability for the big guy.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And you don't need a heck of a lot, as
we've learned over many years of following a variety of scandals,
and I won't name people that you probably don't remember,
but a number of politicians that have survived these sorts
of things. You have to really nail down, like have
a recording and video of them saying, if you get
me this much money, I will do this for you good.
(06:30):
Anything short of that, practically you can survive. It doesn't
matter if all the visuals are there, you got money.
They talked about a certain thing, that certain thing happened.
But unless you have the just smokeingest of smoking guns,
people get away with this all the time. Washington, DC
has set itself up for this. How many politicians probably
(06:53):
daily swing by a table at a restaurant or jump
on a phone call for this sort of thing. It
sickens me. I think it's awful. I wish we had
stricter rules about this, but I think it's so damn common.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh yeah, because they go from government to lobbying and
back and forth. Maybe it's an elected official, maybe you're
a bureaucrat.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Whatever, and like you're talking about, like you were just
mentioning the plausible diability. They all know. You probably find
out day one it's like one oh one. You don't
bring up the actual business or whatever. You swing by
the table, you talk about you know, your favorite sports
team for a couple of minutes, you shake hands, and
you walk on.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right. I'm a lobbyist. I have a buddy who's a senator.
I say, hey, do you mind swinging by the table
real quick? I'm trying to sell this guy on our
lobbying firm. And my buddy, the senator will say, yeah,
absolutely exactly. This weeks by the table, you talk about
the Nationals, and you're enforced as a guy, what's connection.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And the people on the other side know this. Also,
they know that they can't talk about it out loud,
so you all know exactly what's going on there. The
swinging by the table is the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And one final thought, say I'm elected senator or something.
I can't imagine how that would happen. It doesn't look
like I'd rather do this. But my daughter, for instance, Delaney,
is very smart and ambitious. She becomes a Hunter Biden
esque character. Now I probably shouldn't named her. Perhaps I
have a second daughter a little uh, what's the what's
(08:19):
the the allergy medicine? I've always said would be a
great lay for a girl. We'll go with Allegra, right,
so my my third daughter, Allegra becomes a Biden hunter
Biden esque figure, and she's got millions, tens of millions
of dollars pouring in from various foreign concerns that are
convinced H that she has access to me and thereby
(08:41):
to policy. And I make it clear to her. For instance,
I love the San Juan Islands off the coast of
of Washington State, and I just make it clear that, yeah,
we need a house in the San Juan Islands, and
I'm gonna stay there all the time. Well, my incredibly
rich daughter, who sells access to my name, buys that
house and I live there all the time whenever I want.
(09:02):
I got a nice speedboat there, I got a membership
to the local golf club, et cetera. That's how it works. Sure,
And I'm nowhere on taper in writing saying now, if
you give my daughter ten million dollars, I will push
for policies that benefit you, signed Joe, which is what
(09:25):
Dan Goldman is saying. You don't have that, Well you don't.
You don't have that signed a piece of paper. No, No,
we don't. You're not cynical. I don't care how cynical
you are, you're not cynical enough. Get cynicaler. Yeah, laradodean,
that's the that's the allergy medicine, claradodine. And there's my
(09:47):
third daughter, lotid Laradodaine.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Come on in here. And while I think Jonathan Turley's
absolutely right there that Joe Biden lied, including in a
debate about I've never talked to my son about business,
that's not a crime. And voters will decide whether they
care about that on an individual basis. In our current world,
you know, it's either your team.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Or you're not.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So I doubt a lot of votes are going to
be moved over that line
So Devon Archer testified behind closed doors in front of
the House Oversight Committee about the payments that flowed to
the Biden family from Barisma and various other oligarchs and
Chinese companies. What have you?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You know what you know what gets left out of this?
You say in payments everything? Again, it's like, it's not
like it's tens of thousands of dollars or even hundreds
of thousands of dollars changed hands. Was it total down
twenty one million dollars or something like that. Oh yeah,
Oh my god, that's a lot of money. That is
(00:35):
so much money. And according to some, including Devon Archer,
we never gave anybody anything for it. We were just
ripping them off. There was no influence pedaled. That's the
current story, although he did admit that Biden talked many
many times to his and Hunter's business associate. Even if
that's true, and we'll get to the back and forth
of it in a second, whether it was just the
(00:56):
illusion of influence or actual you know, got something for it? Mmm,
how is your kid? If one of my kids ends
up with a lifestyle where he makes twenty one million dollars, Wow,
I feel like I'm gonna ask him some questions. Why
you're really doing well? I mean, I'm so proud of you.
(01:17):
What is it exactly you do again? I mean, because
this is extraordinary. I mean, you're among the most successful people.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
In the world. Well, according to Joe Biden, never even
discussed it. Although that is utterly blown up now, as
you'll hear in the clips to come.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Picture that with your kids. Can't help but notice you've
got four homes, four really expensive homes. You'd drive a
number of two hundred thousand dollars cars.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I just can't help. But notice it's just wow, you've
really done well. I wouldn't ask a single question. I
wouldn't even say, how's work going?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
What industry are you in? Exactly your own son.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You're making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Nope, never came up, never came on. Hilarious, Yeah, yeah, Well,
and we have some some spin back and forth and
some hilariously biased journalism as well, quote unquote journalism. Let's
start with Democratic Congressman Dan Goldman his interpretation of what
we all learned. Why don't we say, let's go with
(02:25):
thirty thirty.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Two Michael Devon Archer was Hunter Biden's business partner and
what he testified to yesterday completely absolves Joe Biden of
any involvement in Hunter Biden's business world. And notwithstanding whatever
alleged smoke Chairman Comer says there is, the witness testimony
(02:49):
was very clear that Joe Biden was not involved in
any of their business dealings. Joe Biden got no benefit.
Joe Biden did not change any of his actions for
or the benefit of his son in any way.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Shape or form.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, so they've moved the what we needed to prove
way over here now. So it started with you know,
I've never talked to my son about business. Now it's
there's no proof of having gotten anything for the money.
I would say, as I said last hour that unless
something new comes out, I don't think it's going to
(03:24):
go any farther than this, unfortunately, but that's just my opinion.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Well, let's not leap to the conclusion quite yet. Here's
James Comer on the other side of the argument in
thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
But let's look at what Devin Archer testified today. He
said that not only was Joe Widen on the phone
over twenty times, with people, including the Barisma executives. Even
though the President denied that he never spoke to any
of these people. He also said that Hunter Biden was
under immist pressure while they both served on the Barisma
board to call Washington d C. Immediately and try to
(03:58):
get Choken fire. That's the Ukrainian prosecutor. And not many
days later, Joe Biden traveled to Ukraine, and we've all
seen the video that where Joe Biden brags about with
holding four an aid to Ukraine in exchange for Ukrainian
president firing the prosecutor who is investigating his son's corrupt
(04:19):
energy company.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
That is a heck of a coincidence.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And then on the topic of the moving goalposts, let's
play forty five and forty back to back. Joe Biden
and Jonathan Turley Michael forty five and forty.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I have never discussed with my son, or my brother
or anyone else, and they haven't do with their businesses period.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
It's really unbelievable. You know, you have now an account
of these meetings talking about getting rid of Victor Schoken,
the prosecutor, and calls being made to the Vice president
at that time. Joe Biden you have an account of
over twenty such calls, and you have someone who says, yes,
(05:01):
the President was part of moving the brand, Well what
was the brand? I mean, this was an influenced peddling
brand and the object of that influence pedaling was Joe Biden.
He was an essential part of that and he played
that role. So if this is true, then the president
has lied. He lied during the presidential debate, He's lied
(05:23):
for years, and he's had staff at the White House lie.
That's always a serious matter. And the next question is
why did he lie.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
That's a really good question. Well the answer is pretty
plainly that it's because he profited mightily from the family business.
But listen, Joe Biden is a gaff machine and a
buffoon in a lot of ways. He's not stupid, and
Jim Biden is absolutely not stupid. And Hunter Biden, though
(05:56):
an attic and erratic, is not stupid. They understan stood
that the key aspect of their scheme was they had
to preserve plausible deniability for the big guy.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And you don't need a heck of a lot, as
we've learned over many years of following a variety of scandals,
and I won't name people that you probably don't remember,
but a number of politicians that have survived these sorts
of things. You have to really nail down, like have
a recording and video of them saying, if you get
me this much money, I will do this for you good.
(06:30):
Anything short of that, practically you can survive. It doesn't
matter if all the visuals are there, you got money.
They talked about a certain thing, that certain thing happened.
But unless you have the just smokeingest of smoking guns,
people get away with this all the time. Washington, DC
has set itself up for this. How many politicians probably
(06:53):
daily swing by a table at a restaurant or jump
on a phone call for this sort of thing. It
sickens me. I think it's awful. I wish we had
stricter rules about this, but I think it's so damn common.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh yeah, because they go from government to lobbying and
back and forth. Maybe it's an elected official, maybe you're
a bureaucrat.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Whatever, and like you're talking about, like you were just
mentioning the plausible diability. They all know. You probably find
out day one it's like one oh one. You don't
bring up the actual business or whatever. You swing by
the table, you talk about you know, your favorite sports
team for a couple of minutes, you shake hands, and
you walk on.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right. I'm a lobbyist. I have a buddy who's a senator.
I say, hey, do you mind swinging by the table
real quick? I'm trying to sell this guy on our
lobbying firm. And my buddy, the senator will say, yeah,
absolutely exactly. This weeks by the table, you talk about
the Nationals, and you're enforced as a guy, what's connection.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And the people on the other side know this. Also,
they know that they can't talk about it out loud,
so you all know exactly what's going on there. The
swinging by the table is the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And one final thought, say I'm elected senator or something.
I can't imagine how that would happen. It doesn't look
like I'd rather do this. But my daughter, for instance, Delaney,
is very smart and ambitious. She becomes a Hunter Biden
esque character. Now I probably shouldn't named her. Perhaps I
have a second daughter a little uh, what's the what's
(08:19):
the the allergy medicine? I've always said would be a
great lay for a girl. We'll go with Allegra, right,
so my my third daughter, Allegra becomes a Biden hunter
Biden esque figure, and she's got millions, tens of millions
of dollars pouring in from various foreign concerns that are
convinced H that she has access to me and thereby
(08:41):
to policy. And I make it clear to her. For instance,
I love the San Juan Islands off the coast of
of Washington State, and I just make it clear that, yeah,
we need a house in the San Juan Islands, and
I'm gonna stay there all the time. Well, my incredibly
rich daughter, who sells access to my name, buys that
house and I live there all the time whenever I want.
(09:02):
I got a nice speedboat there, I got a membership
to the local golf club, et cetera. That's how it works. Sure,
And I'm nowhere on taper in writing saying now, if
you give my daughter ten million dollars, I will push
for policies that benefit you, signed Joe, which is what
(09:25):
Dan Goldman is saying. You don't have that, Well you don't.
You don't have that signed a piece of paper. No, No,
we don't. You're not cynical. I don't care how cynical
you are, you're not cynical enough. Get cynicaler. Yeah, laradodean,
that's the that's the allergy medicine, claradodine. And there's my
(09:47):
third daughter, lotid Laradodaine.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Come on in here. And while I think Jonathan Turley's
absolutely right there that Joe Biden lied, including in a
debate about I've never talked to my son about business,
that's not a crime. And voters will decide whether they
care about that on an individual basis. In our current world,
you know, it's either your team.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Or you're not.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So I doubt a lot of votes are going to
be moved over that line
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