July 26, 2023 • 10 mins
If you're in a blue state, especially California, it's likely you're aware of the spike in retail theft and the lack of consequences for it. Criminal justice reform strikes again.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a shocking and really informative report from Steve
Harrigan on Fox News. And I'm kicking myself a bit
for not seeing this coming.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Would you like some of us to kick you? Also,
oh boy, there's a line out the door of people voluntary.
The topic in general is the Blue States decriminalizing of crime,
and there are various examples from various states and the
so called criminal justice reform that you're George Soros sponsored,
DASER participating in, where they look at who's incarcerated and say, hey,
(00:36):
it's disproportionately black men. So obviously it's a racist system.
So obviously we're just not going to charge anybody with
serious crimes, or we're going to reduce what were serious
crimes down to misdemeanors and minor crimes, and nobody's going
to pay attention at all. We've observed, and it was
easy to predict. In fact, we did predict rather strenuously
(00:56):
when California was voting on a couple of just idiot
ballot measures that this would lead to rampant crime. What
I fail to get, and this is why I'm kicking myself,
is that rampant crime being permitted leads to rampant profit
from crime, and that the people who notice that rampant
(01:19):
profit aren't just going to be local yokels who want
to steal some stuff and get money for a car
I thought, or to take drugs or whatever I was told.
People are just stealing this stuff because the economy's so
bad that they have to steal toothpaste and raisers and
other expensive items because they can't afford to buy them.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Well, if you believe that you're dumber than the President's
vicious dog and you're being lied to at any rate,
Steve Harrigan fills in the blanks here on the free
market of criminal enterprise at work. Start with fifty Michael.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Four states have formed a task force with the Homeland
Security Department to organized retail theft different from shoplifting due
to the massive amounts being stolen, the sophistication of the thieves,
and in some cases law enforcement says who is behind it,
drug cartels.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
You're a sophisticated transnational organized crime networks that have ties
to Latin America. We call them South American theft groups,
and they're associated with high level criminal activity in the
United States.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So that's your first clue. Hey, there's practically unlimited profit
to be made in Blue States by stealing. Transnational criminal
organizations have noticed, I'd now moving to exploit the lawlessness.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I didn't immediately think of that when this trend started
to go in with the trash bag and wipe the
shelf clean of razor blades. But yeah, I suppose that
makes sense.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
It was interesting. We were watching a video the other day.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Oh, I guess it was that CBS news report in
which they were reporting on rampant theft and crime and shoplifting,
whatever you want to call it. And while they were
filming the report in the I think it was a CVS,
they witnessed three different thefts, and the one due the
video I watched, it was striking because he grabs several
items that he wanted and strolls out as if he'd
paid for them, utterly, unhurried, unharried, unworried about anything. So
(03:21):
it's that easy.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I'm sure the first time he did it, he
maybe looked around a little bit and thought, I'm not
going to get away with this. But the tenth time
you do it, you start to realize that nobody's paying
any attention.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Well, hell.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You might as well say, hey, Jim Harry, how are
you to the store manager rolling on with that report?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Please?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Targeted theft on a massive scale is changing the way
stores do business. Dollar Tree is stopped selling men's underwear,
alta locks, perfume in cases, home depot ties down power
tools with steel cables. Employees are often caught in the middle,
fired if they tried to intervene, while at the same
time at the risk of attack from thieves. Donna Hansboro,
(04:01):
a sixty eight year old Low's employee, got it both ways,
punched in the face three times by a thief wheeling
out a shopping cart, then fired for violating company policy.
On Monday, Low's announced she'll get her job back.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
After there was a huge backlash in social media. I
followed that story over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
That was horrible.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
God, that whole thing of where you're not allowed to
try to stop theft and if you do, you'll get
fired while the person stealing stuff gets free. That is
a really maddening Who's buying their underwear at the Dollar Store?
I didn't know the Dollar Store sold underwear.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I'm happy to announce that I'm at the point in
my life financially, where I can go ahead and go
to the Walmart, for instance, and get the high falutant
underwear the Walmart.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
The rich man's underpants from Target.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I would point out a couple of things about that
little angle about the retail is changing and the people
getting fired. First of all, clearly it's made life worse
for all of them, oh sure, less convenient, just weird
and just not good. And the reason those store employees
try to intercede, it's not their stuff, right, They're not
(05:17):
going to lose any money over it. What it is
is human beings have an innate desire for justice. They
don't like to see the rules we have all agreed
on the Social Compact being violated. It's offensive, it makes
us angry. And those employees are just standing up for
humanity and civilization and for that they're being fired. But
(05:39):
I warn ye, and I'm thinking about the Soviet Union
in similar corrupt societies where people just give up hope.
If you continually quash people's desire to see justice done,
you will end up in a society you do not
want to live in.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
No, you'll get way more people who are willing to
risk their safety to stop theft because they're so just
offended by it. It like hurts your brain, right. The idea
of somebody gets to come in here and grab a
drill off the shelf and walk out of the lows
bothers you so much you're willing to fight for it
even though it's not your money. Yeah, you kill that
(06:16):
spirit and people are gonna flip to the other side.
That's what happens in these countries like the Soviet Union
or whatever. You just think, well, I'm gonna start taking stuff.
That's the you know when in Rome.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yeah, theft is the root to success. I will steal.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So Steve goes into a little detail on how organized
theft in shoplifting differ, but I think we can understand that.
Let's get to fifty three Michael, to wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
One factor behind the double digit growth of organized retail
theft is the Internet. Third party resellers can often move
warehouses full of items online and remain anonymous.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
They found an opportunity, they found something.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That was very easy to do and low risk, and
so we've got to make it higher risk. We've got
to make it lower reward, and we've got to make
sure that they understand their consequences.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Major retailers are pushing for online transparency to know who
the high volume internet sellers are as a first step.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Need to make it higher risk and lower reward. You
mean the way it has worked my whole life up
until recently. Yeah, and for hundreds of years. Yeah, that
might be a good idea. So, Katie, your husband is
at a bank and gets a gun stuck in his space, Like, so,
what kind of an area are we talking about here?
Before we hear the story.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
It's small town, just you know, all age ranges, not
very far from a school, across the street from a safeway.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So not a janky, shady you kind of expected. They're
sort of place. Okay, not at all. So what happened?
Speaker 6 (07:44):
So he went to Wells Fargo around two thirty in
the afternoon, so you know, middle of the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That's not even on my mind. I pull into the
bank at two thirty in the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah, pulls in, goes inside, does whatever he has
to do, and on the way out he hears some
commotion out in the parking lot, and when he walks out,
there's another gentleman with him. He sees four guys, two
of them with rifles. Oh my god, robbing this woman.
One has her by the hair and she's screaming. So
(08:15):
my husband and the other gentleman went kind of walking
in that direction, and the two guys pointed the guns
right at them.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right, you want a piece of this mm hmm, No,
I don't, probably, is the answer.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
And they proceeded to get her purse. They they hit
her with both of the rifles. I'm reading this morning.
She's she's doing okay, but once in the back of
the head and once in the temple, and then they
all got into the car and drove off, and authorities
are asking for any information.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Well, your husband had to be pretty concerned. I mean,
so many points a gun at you that you know
there's the opportunity that they're just gonna actually shoot you.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Right, And that was his point. He was like, I
wanted so badly to help and try to try to
stop them from hurting this woman. But then they both
there were two firearms pointed at him at his face.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Wow, And thank god, the victim is physically probably gonna
be okay. But she was beaten to the ground, beaten
on the head, to the ground by two men with
guns who stole her stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
She will never be the same.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
No, no, And I'm reading this morning and the update
which is coming from her cousin saying that she is okay,
but she's very shaken up and does not want to
go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's horrible obviously, But yeah, your husband, I've never had
a loaded gun pointed at me.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
That's thing.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Also very shaken up when he got home. I'm sure
a mixture of fear and you know, and guilt because
he wanted to help.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
And anger, I'm sure yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
That too, you know, just right the right in the
middle of the day.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Sure, So your animal brain reaction to that would be
when's the next time you're comfortable anywhere after you get
a gunpoint in the middle of the day, just running
an errand.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It would take a very long time. Yeah, yeah, everybody involved.
And my theory which I am quite confident in and
I've seen it in kids and players on teams and
dogs including the President's vicious.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Dog and update on that coming up.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Wow, if you set the limit at whatever, just to
illustrate the point, level three, the kid, the dog, the player, whatever,
will experiment with level four. They'll see if they can
get away with level four. Sure, and if they can,
they will take a shot level five and see what
happens level five until until a firm stop is given
(10:29):
to them. Likewise, when you decriminalize crime in these blue
states in America, what used to be an a restable
offense and a serious repercussion for somebody's life is removed,
they are going to keep pushing and pushing and pushing.
And we have removed so many of the lines. They
have now pushed to the point of, you know, strong armed,
gun wielding robberies in the middle of the day in suburbia.
(10:49):
How's your utopia coming along, good lord.
This is a shocking and really informative report from Steve
Harrigan on Fox News. And I'm kicking myself a bit
for not seeing this coming.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Would you like some of us to kick you? Also,
oh boy, there's a line out the door of people voluntary.
The topic in general is the Blue States decriminalizing of crime,
and there are various examples from various states and the
so called criminal justice reform that you're George Soros sponsored,
DASER participating in, where they look at who's incarcerated and say, hey,
(00:36):
it's disproportionately black men. So obviously it's a racist system.
So obviously we're just not going to charge anybody with
serious crimes, or we're going to reduce what were serious
crimes down to misdemeanors and minor crimes, and nobody's going
to pay attention at all. We've observed, and it was
easy to predict. In fact, we did predict rather strenuously
(00:56):
when California was voting on a couple of just idiot
ballot measures that this would lead to rampant crime. What
I fail to get, and this is why I'm kicking myself,
is that rampant crime being permitted leads to rampant profit
from crime, and that the people who notice that rampant
(01:19):
profit aren't just going to be local yokels who want
to steal some stuff and get money for a car
I thought, or to take drugs or whatever I was told.
People are just stealing this stuff because the economy's so
bad that they have to steal toothpaste and raisers and
other expensive items because they can't afford to buy them.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Well, if you believe that you're dumber than the President's
vicious dog and you're being lied to at any rate,
Steve Harrigan fills in the blanks here on the free
market of criminal enterprise at work. Start with fifty Michael.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Four states have formed a task force with the Homeland
Security Department to organized retail theft different from shoplifting due
to the massive amounts being stolen, the sophistication of the thieves,
and in some cases law enforcement says who is behind it,
drug cartels.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
You're a sophisticated transnational organized crime networks that have ties
to Latin America. We call them South American theft groups,
and they're associated with high level criminal activity in the
United States.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So that's your first clue. Hey, there's practically unlimited profit
to be made in Blue States by stealing. Transnational criminal
organizations have noticed, I'd now moving to exploit the lawlessness.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I didn't immediately think of that when this trend started
to go in with the trash bag and wipe the
shelf clean of razor blades. But yeah, I suppose that
makes sense.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
It was interesting. We were watching a video the other day.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Oh, I guess it was that CBS news report in
which they were reporting on rampant theft and crime and shoplifting,
whatever you want to call it. And while they were
filming the report in the I think it was a CVS,
they witnessed three different thefts, and the one due the
video I watched, it was striking because he grabs several
items that he wanted and strolls out as if he'd
paid for them, utterly, unhurried, unharried, unworried about anything. So
(03:21):
it's that easy.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I'm sure the first time he did it, he
maybe looked around a little bit and thought, I'm not
going to get away with this. But the tenth time
you do it, you start to realize that nobody's paying
any attention.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Well, hell.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You might as well say, hey, Jim Harry, how are
you to the store manager rolling on with that report?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Please?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Targeted theft on a massive scale is changing the way
stores do business. Dollar Tree is stopped selling men's underwear,
alta locks, perfume in cases, home depot ties down power
tools with steel cables. Employees are often caught in the middle,
fired if they tried to intervene, while at the same
time at the risk of attack from thieves. Donna Hansboro,
(04:01):
a sixty eight year old Low's employee, got it both ways,
punched in the face three times by a thief wheeling
out a shopping cart, then fired for violating company policy.
On Monday, Low's announced she'll get her job back.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
After there was a huge backlash in social media. I
followed that story over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
That was horrible.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
God, that whole thing of where you're not allowed to
try to stop theft and if you do, you'll get
fired while the person stealing stuff gets free. That is
a really maddening Who's buying their underwear at the Dollar Store?
I didn't know the Dollar Store sold underwear.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I'm happy to announce that I'm at the point in
my life financially, where I can go ahead and go
to the Walmart, for instance, and get the high falutant
underwear the Walmart.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
The rich man's underpants from Target.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I would point out a couple of things about that
little angle about the retail is changing and the people
getting fired. First of all, clearly it's made life worse
for all of them, oh sure, less convenient, just weird
and just not good. And the reason those store employees
try to intercede, it's not their stuff, right, They're not
(05:17):
going to lose any money over it. What it is
is human beings have an innate desire for justice. They
don't like to see the rules we have all agreed
on the Social Compact being violated. It's offensive, it makes
us angry. And those employees are just standing up for
humanity and civilization and for that they're being fired. But
(05:39):
I warn ye, and I'm thinking about the Soviet Union
in similar corrupt societies where people just give up hope.
If you continually quash people's desire to see justice done,
you will end up in a society you do not
want to live in.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
No, you'll get way more people who are willing to
risk their safety to stop theft because they're so just
offended by it. It like hurts your brain, right. The idea
of somebody gets to come in here and grab a
drill off the shelf and walk out of the lows
bothers you so much you're willing to fight for it
even though it's not your money. Yeah, you kill that
(06:16):
spirit and people are gonna flip to the other side.
That's what happens in these countries like the Soviet Union
or whatever. You just think, well, I'm gonna start taking stuff.
That's the you know when in Rome.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yeah, theft is the root to success. I will steal.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So Steve goes into a little detail on how organized
theft in shoplifting differ, but I think we can understand that.
Let's get to fifty three Michael, to wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
One factor behind the double digit growth of organized retail
theft is the Internet. Third party resellers can often move
warehouses full of items online and remain anonymous.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
They found an opportunity, they found something.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That was very easy to do and low risk, and
so we've got to make it higher risk. We've got
to make it lower reward, and we've got to make
sure that they understand their consequences.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Major retailers are pushing for online transparency to know who
the high volume internet sellers are as a first step.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Need to make it higher risk and lower reward. You
mean the way it has worked my whole life up
until recently. Yeah, and for hundreds of years. Yeah, that
might be a good idea. So, Katie, your husband is
at a bank and gets a gun stuck in his space, Like, so,
what kind of an area are we talking about here?
Before we hear the story.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
It's small town, just you know, all age ranges, not
very far from a school, across the street from a safeway.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So not a janky, shady you kind of expected. They're
sort of place. Okay, not at all. So what happened?
Speaker 6 (07:44):
So he went to Wells Fargo around two thirty in
the afternoon, so you know, middle of the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That's not even on my mind. I pull into the
bank at two thirty in the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah, pulls in, goes inside, does whatever he has
to do, and on the way out he hears some
commotion out in the parking lot, and when he walks out,
there's another gentleman with him. He sees four guys, two
of them with rifles. Oh my god, robbing this woman.
One has her by the hair and she's screaming. So
(08:15):
my husband and the other gentleman went kind of walking
in that direction, and the two guys pointed the guns
right at them.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right, you want a piece of this mm hmm, No,
I don't, probably, is the answer.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
And they proceeded to get her purse. They they hit
her with both of the rifles. I'm reading this morning.
She's she's doing okay, but once in the back of
the head and once in the temple, and then they
all got into the car and drove off, and authorities
are asking for any information.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Well, your husband had to be pretty concerned. I mean,
so many points a gun at you that you know
there's the opportunity that they're just gonna actually shoot you.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Right, And that was his point. He was like, I
wanted so badly to help and try to try to
stop them from hurting this woman. But then they both
there were two firearms pointed at him at his face.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Wow, And thank god, the victim is physically probably gonna
be okay. But she was beaten to the ground, beaten
on the head, to the ground by two men with
guns who stole her stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
She will never be the same.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
No, no, And I'm reading this morning and the update
which is coming from her cousin saying that she is okay,
but she's very shaken up and does not want to
go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's horrible obviously, But yeah, your husband, I've never had
a loaded gun pointed at me.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
That's thing.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Also very shaken up when he got home. I'm sure
a mixture of fear and you know, and guilt because
he wanted to help.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
And anger, I'm sure yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
That too, you know, just right the right in the
middle of the day.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Sure, So your animal brain reaction to that would be
when's the next time you're comfortable anywhere after you get
a gunpoint in the middle of the day, just running
an errand.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It would take a very long time. Yeah, yeah, everybody involved.
And my theory which I am quite confident in and
I've seen it in kids and players on teams and
dogs including the President's vicious.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Dog and update on that coming up.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Wow, if you set the limit at whatever, just to
illustrate the point, level three, the kid, the dog, the player, whatever,
will experiment with level four. They'll see if they can
get away with level four. Sure, and if they can,
they will take a shot level five and see what
happens level five until until a firm stop is given
(10:29):
to them. Likewise, when you decriminalize crime in these blue
states in America, what used to be an a restable
offense and a serious repercussion for somebody's life is removed,
they are going to keep pushing and pushing and pushing.
And we have removed so many of the lines. They
have now pushed to the point of, you know, strong armed,
gun wielding robberies in the middle of the day in suburbia.
(10:49):
How's your utopia coming along, good lord.
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