November 17, 2023 • 10 mins
This is insane. Part of the Navy's new training video addresses how to handle using proper pronouns. Priorities folks, priorities.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's a couple of young people explaining to us how
using the right pronouns is important in life and in
the navy.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Are you fing kidding?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I am sorry. You gotta give me a little time
with that sentence. So many things are important in life
and in the navy pronouns.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
The woman is fairly, you know, average looking gal, I
got a bit of an accent, which doesn't matter certainly.
Immigrants to do or Land or more than welcome in
our armed services if they choose to volunteer. The fella
looks like, how do I put this? He would lose
(00:41):
a fistfight to Taylor Swift ten times out of ten.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Okay, they better not.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Put him in charge of anything that requires much physical
exertion in the Navy.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Not going to be a seal. No, no.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And they're both wearing some sort of rainbowish garb in
these videos. This is unblanking believable. Let's just we'll play
We'll play these individual clips. We've just chopped it up
into sections, and see how much of it we can take.
Michael starting with sixty, will go from there.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Hi, minam is Johnny and I use hee him pronouns Hi.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
And I'm Kanchie and I use cheat her pronouns.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
And we're here to talk about pronouns.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
What is a pronoun?
Speaker 6 (01:25):
A pronoun is how we identify ourselves apart from our name,
and it's also.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
How people referred to us in conversations.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Using the right pronouns is a really simple way to
affirm someone's identity. It is a signal of acceptance and respect.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Okay, so where is this being used or aired? It's
a training video for the Navy. For the Navy, Yes, allegedly.
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I'm trying to dig up. I have a most piece.
Most companies aren't doing this. Why is the Navy doing it?
Who freaking knows what's driving this?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
It?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, what is driving this? It's not a effort. Is
an effort to recruit more people. Now, I guarantee you're
gonna end up with fewer recruits, not more recruits with this.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, they are hurting for certain recruiting wise, this is
gonna hurt you more.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I know plenty of people who if they were considering
joining new military, this would turn them off from it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I'm hearing this hate speech here. This is not a
safe place for me. You're anger, You're being.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
A white man, you're being a white man, I am.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I'm reminded of a great piece that was written by
Colin Wright, and I liked it so much from the
Wall Street Journal. I bookmarked it. When asked, what are
your pronouns? Don't answer a seemingly innocuous question, masks demand
for conformity with a regressive set of ideas.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
It is the gateway drug to falling for all the garbage,
queer theory, gender fluid, critical theory, garbage.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's how they rope you in. Don't do it, roll on, Michael.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
If it's a signal of acceptance and respect, how do
we go about creating a safe space for everybody?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
A really good way to do that is to use
inclusive language. Instead of saying something like hey guys, you
can say hey everyone or hey team.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
And now that you say that, another way that we
could show that we're allies and that we accept everybody
is to maybe include our pronouns in our emails or
like we just did, introduce ourselves using our pronouns.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I hate to sound like your typical right wing talk
radio host, but a navy that spends a dollar or
a minute thinking about this is going to lose to China.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Are you freaking kidding?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Come for the inappropriateness, stay for the stupidity, although you
know what, I take that back. It's stupidity to go
along with it. It's not stupidity yet its route. I
think our classic reaction to this would be saying hey
everyone instead of hey guys. Is utterly meaningless. It has
(04:17):
no effect positive nor negative. It is an entirely made
up concern. You are worried about something that has zero
significance to any human being on earth. That's what I
would have said for years and years, but now I
understand the critical theory thing. I recommend highly James Lindsay
and Helen pluck Ross's Cynical Theories. It's wonderful book and
(04:39):
very revealing. If they can get you to stop saying
hey guys, because they have ordered you to say hey everyone,
they have you on your heels, and they've gotten you
to accept the premise that what you're saying is problematic, which.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Is at the very heart of critical theory.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It tears everything down and tells you don't say that,
say this. It's not because that or this has any significance.
It's your obedience that matters. That's Neo Marxism. They get
you so on your heels. You have to look to
them for permission to say, think or do anything or
else your career, for instance, will be taken away from you.
(05:22):
That's not enlightenment, that's compliance, it's bullying.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Don't do it. So that's all true.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
But just from just from the Navy standpoint, how did this,
How did this get from whoever first suggested it all
the way to a training video that is going to
be seen by new recruits.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I just I can't believe.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Ever, but especially now when we're being told that China's
got a bigger, perhaps more powerful navy than us. In
simulated wars defending Taiwan, we lose regularly.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But we're spending any time on.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
This BS right, Well, I think, and you know it's funny.
I was thinking something similar to my answer to your
question when I was listening to Barry Weiss talk about
how a couple of years ago a guy issued an
invite to a Constitution reading and referred to his place
as a trap house and Yale Law. Within twelve hours,
it became a huge thing, and he was dragged in
(06:20):
front of the Dean and he was forced I don't
think he did to sign a letter of apology and
blah blah blah blah blah in the way gut George Floyd.
And then with all the overts sometimes violent anti Semitism
going on right now, the Jewish kids get a form letter.
It has to do with the fact that everybody was
so terrified of being called a racist in the wake
(06:40):
of George Floyd, that these people had enormous power to
shape the society and what people said and did. Everybody
was terrified, and during that period a lot of this
critical race theory DEI garbage was forced into not only
private industry, but the government and the school and the military.
(07:01):
These people were hired, paid six figures and they've got
to do something. So this is what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You know, if Trump announced, if he talked about this
and said I'll end this day one president, I don't
know how many votes he'd get on that issue alone.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I agree completely it would be huge roll on Michael.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
But what would I do if I misgender someone?
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I think the first thing to recognize is that it's
not the end of the world. You correct yourself and
move on, or you accept the correction and move on.
The most important thing I can tell you is do
not put the burden of making you feel good about
your mistake on the person that you just misgendered.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Oh thank you for telling me that.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
What.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
This is flaccid in every way. It is in its writing,
it's horrifying. Its delivery is embarrassing. The music has rendered
me unable to have sexual relations for the rest of
my life. It is whatever the opposite of viagra is
for our military, this video is it?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You hate to head into the weekend? Flaccid? Hit us
with another clip, Michael, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
And another tip for you to remember their pronoun next time.
It's in your mind kind of going through a progression
of three good things about the person using their pronel.
So let's say the person chooses to use day.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Then you will in your mind go, they.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Have a nice shirt, they have a nice mile, they
are really smart.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
So that kind of sticks in your brain.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That is so helpful.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I can't believe this is real. I'm actually struggling to
believe that this is not. We haven't been hoodwinked.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Jaws are a gape all over America listening to this.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So some of the money, some of the tax money
going to the Pentagon is paying for this.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Ah, I'm trying to decide whether we should take a
break and come back because there's more, and it just
it's it's at least as horrible as what we've.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Heard so far. The rest of it.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'm so flash it. I'm not sure I can walk
down to get my cup of coffee during the break.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Wow, how do you walk? Go ahead? Give us one more, Michael.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Just to share something with you that happened the other
day at a kukat I was at. We were talking
about pronouns and somebody was disagreeing with how different people
see themselves as different pronouns. And the argument was, if
you look like a female, then it's cheat her because
(09:43):
that's what's normal.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
And if you make me call you something else, then
you're infringing on my rights.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
And I was really taking it by the comment, and
I really wasn't sure how to respond, and the only
thing I could really think quickly to say was it's
not about you, all right, and it's mostly and ultimately
about respect.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It is about respect. That's an important point to make.
And I think you did the right thing. I think
It's important to keep it short and simple.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
You come on in China, Come on, not only do
I hate, not only I not only abhorred all idea
of the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's really poorly.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Done, all right, That's what I'm saying. It fails on
every level.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You're right, man, if that music, if you haven't fathered
children already, you will not.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Now you are now sterile.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
We apologize, Armstrong and Getty
There's a couple of young people explaining to us how
using the right pronouns is important in life and in
the navy.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Are you fing kidding?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I am sorry. You gotta give me a little time
with that sentence. So many things are important in life
and in the navy pronouns.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
The woman is fairly, you know, average looking gal, I
got a bit of an accent, which doesn't matter certainly.
Immigrants to do or Land or more than welcome in
our armed services if they choose to volunteer. The fella
looks like, how do I put this? He would lose
(00:41):
a fistfight to Taylor Swift ten times out of ten.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Okay, they better not.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Put him in charge of anything that requires much physical
exertion in the Navy.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Not going to be a seal. No, no.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And they're both wearing some sort of rainbowish garb in
these videos. This is unblanking believable. Let's just we'll play
We'll play these individual clips. We've just chopped it up
into sections, and see how much of it we can take.
Michael starting with sixty, will go from there.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Hi, minam is Johnny and I use hee him pronouns Hi.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
And I'm Kanchie and I use cheat her pronouns.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
And we're here to talk about pronouns.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
What is a pronoun?
Speaker 6 (01:25):
A pronoun is how we identify ourselves apart from our name,
and it's also.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
How people referred to us in conversations.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Using the right pronouns is a really simple way to
affirm someone's identity. It is a signal of acceptance and respect.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Okay, so where is this being used or aired? It's
a training video for the Navy. For the Navy, Yes, allegedly.
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I'm trying to dig up. I have a most piece.
Most companies aren't doing this. Why is the Navy doing it?
Who freaking knows what's driving this?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
It?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, what is driving this? It's not a effort. Is
an effort to recruit more people. Now, I guarantee you're
gonna end up with fewer recruits, not more recruits with this.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, they are hurting for certain recruiting wise, this is
gonna hurt you more.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I know plenty of people who if they were considering
joining new military, this would turn them off from it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I'm hearing this hate speech here. This is not a
safe place for me. You're anger, You're being.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
A white man, you're being a white man, I am.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I'm reminded of a great piece that was written by
Colin Wright, and I liked it so much from the
Wall Street Journal. I bookmarked it. When asked, what are
your pronouns? Don't answer a seemingly innocuous question, masks demand
for conformity with a regressive set of ideas.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
It is the gateway drug to falling for all the garbage,
queer theory, gender fluid, critical theory, garbage.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's how they rope you in. Don't do it, roll on, Michael.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
If it's a signal of acceptance and respect, how do
we go about creating a safe space for everybody?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
A really good way to do that is to use
inclusive language. Instead of saying something like hey guys, you
can say hey everyone or hey team.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
And now that you say that, another way that we
could show that we're allies and that we accept everybody
is to maybe include our pronouns in our emails or
like we just did, introduce ourselves using our pronouns.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I hate to sound like your typical right wing talk
radio host, but a navy that spends a dollar or
a minute thinking about this is going to lose to China.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Are you freaking kidding?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Come for the inappropriateness, stay for the stupidity, although you
know what, I take that back. It's stupidity to go
along with it. It's not stupidity yet its route. I
think our classic reaction to this would be saying hey
everyone instead of hey guys. Is utterly meaningless. It has
(04:17):
no effect positive nor negative. It is an entirely made
up concern. You are worried about something that has zero
significance to any human being on earth. That's what I
would have said for years and years, but now I
understand the critical theory thing. I recommend highly James Lindsay
and Helen pluck Ross's Cynical Theories. It's wonderful book and
(04:39):
very revealing. If they can get you to stop saying
hey guys, because they have ordered you to say hey everyone,
they have you on your heels, and they've gotten you
to accept the premise that what you're saying is problematic, which.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Is at the very heart of critical theory.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It tears everything down and tells you don't say that,
say this. It's not because that or this has any significance.
It's your obedience that matters. That's Neo Marxism. They get
you so on your heels. You have to look to
them for permission to say, think or do anything or
else your career, for instance, will be taken away from you.
(05:22):
That's not enlightenment, that's compliance, it's bullying.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Don't do it. So that's all true.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
But just from just from the Navy standpoint, how did this,
How did this get from whoever first suggested it all
the way to a training video that is going to
be seen by new recruits.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I just I can't believe.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Ever, but especially now when we're being told that China's
got a bigger, perhaps more powerful navy than us. In
simulated wars defending Taiwan, we lose regularly.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But we're spending any time on.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
This BS right, Well, I think, and you know it's funny.
I was thinking something similar to my answer to your
question when I was listening to Barry Weiss talk about
how a couple of years ago a guy issued an
invite to a Constitution reading and referred to his place
as a trap house and Yale Law. Within twelve hours,
it became a huge thing, and he was dragged in
(06:20):
front of the Dean and he was forced I don't
think he did to sign a letter of apology and
blah blah blah blah blah in the way gut George Floyd.
And then with all the overts sometimes violent anti Semitism
going on right now, the Jewish kids get a form letter.
It has to do with the fact that everybody was
so terrified of being called a racist in the wake
(06:40):
of George Floyd, that these people had enormous power to
shape the society and what people said and did. Everybody
was terrified, and during that period a lot of this
critical race theory DEI garbage was forced into not only
private industry, but the government and the school and the military.
(07:01):
These people were hired, paid six figures and they've got
to do something. So this is what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You know, if Trump announced, if he talked about this
and said I'll end this day one president, I don't
know how many votes he'd get on that issue alone.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I agree completely it would be huge roll on Michael.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
But what would I do if I misgender someone?
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I think the first thing to recognize is that it's
not the end of the world. You correct yourself and
move on, or you accept the correction and move on.
The most important thing I can tell you is do
not put the burden of making you feel good about
your mistake on the person that you just misgendered.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Oh thank you for telling me that.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
What.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
This is flaccid in every way. It is in its writing,
it's horrifying. Its delivery is embarrassing. The music has rendered
me unable to have sexual relations for the rest of
my life. It is whatever the opposite of viagra is
for our military, this video is it?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You hate to head into the weekend? Flaccid? Hit us
with another clip, Michael, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
And another tip for you to remember their pronoun next time.
It's in your mind kind of going through a progression
of three good things about the person using their pronel.
So let's say the person chooses to use day.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Then you will in your mind go, they.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Have a nice shirt, they have a nice mile, they
are really smart.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
So that kind of sticks in your brain.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That is so helpful.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I can't believe this is real. I'm actually struggling to
believe that this is not. We haven't been hoodwinked.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Jaws are a gape all over America listening to this.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So some of the money, some of the tax money
going to the Pentagon is paying for this.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Ah, I'm trying to decide whether we should take a
break and come back because there's more, and it just
it's it's at least as horrible as what we've.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Heard so far. The rest of it.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'm so flash it. I'm not sure I can walk
down to get my cup of coffee during the break.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Wow, how do you walk? Go ahead? Give us one more, Michael.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Just to share something with you that happened the other
day at a kukat I was at. We were talking
about pronouns and somebody was disagreeing with how different people
see themselves as different pronouns. And the argument was, if
you look like a female, then it's cheat her because
(09:43):
that's what's normal.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
And if you make me call you something else, then
you're infringing on my rights.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
And I was really taking it by the comment, and
I really wasn't sure how to respond, and the only
thing I could really think quickly to say was it's
not about you, all right, and it's mostly and ultimately
about respect.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It is about respect. That's an important point to make.
And I think you did the right thing. I think
It's important to keep it short and simple.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
You come on in China, Come on, not only do
I hate, not only I not only abhorred all idea
of the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's really poorly.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Done, all right, That's what I'm saying. It fails on
every level.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You're right, man, if that music, if you haven't fathered
children already, you will not.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Now you are now sterile.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
We apologize, Armstrong and Getty
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