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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Especially in the Jamie Boy Show with j Foreign and Santi.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
When you need to know, we got you.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Three things you need to know on Boston's number one
for hip hop and the best throwbags you.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Haven't any more.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Five A baby most Man, A Babe Boo Scot Papa
A Babe boom bas Papa Friday, May ninth.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We have a pope. People.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You don't need to know how to say it in Latin.
You can just say it the way you want to
say it. It's happening. Pope Leo the fourteenth leading his
first mass today. The conclave elected good old Cardinal Robert
Francis Provost, who has decided to go by Pope Leo.
Really dope sixty nine years old, was born in Chicago
(00:46):
and graduated a Villanova University in nineteen seventy seven. Fun
fact for you, he is the first American to be
elected as Pope.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Huge basketball guy too. He love loves, he loves assuming
that he has to write.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
He was a missionary who spent his career ministering in
Peru and led the Vatican's powerful Office of Bishops. When
the white smoke came out of the Sixtine Chapel, I
felt something in my soul.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Man, it's just exciting, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I had the thing on live and when you see it,
like everybody started freaking out and like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
God, can I see it?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I see?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh my gosh. They were saying they were not Why can't.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
They say god, oh my god, because this is a
positive thing, right.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
You can't drop it. You can't drop a hard d
on that, all right, I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
But anyways, he's in, he's ready. He seems spry sixty
nine right.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
The last couple of them have been a little bit
like old, like older feeling like older vibes, you know
what I mean. You knew they were mare going to
last like too long. I feel like this dude's going
to be in there for like a minute.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It was exciting that it was taking a little bit
of time because I think it was like building and
building and building.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But it's go time for Pope Leo the fourteenth.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yes Las yesterday. I was like, nobody knows who it's
gonna be. Like everybody tries to do the hope, the
whole thing with like just the predictions, and it never.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Turned out he was not the prediction.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
We're not all cardinals. We don't know what's going on
behind the scenes, you know what's.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Popping off in it. We don't know what kind of
questions they're asking.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, maybe they got in there. And Bob was like, listen, guys,
I got this. Yeah, crost me God for me.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
All right, let's talk Paul Pierce. This had me in
tears yesterday. One thing we can say about Paul Pierce
is he's.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
A man of his word. Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
He was talking about the Celts and he basically said
if the celt not Basically he said, if the Celtics
do not beat.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
The Knicks in Game two, I will walk to work
in my robe.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
This man walked to work yesterday fifteen miles in his bathrobe. Man,
this is really wild, though I can't believe it self
has got me out here like this.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Chris Walked.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The Celtics really played Paul Piers because it was I'm
seeing cars drive by him and I'm thinking of myself.
If I'm outside and i see somebody walking down the
street in a robe, I'm like crack or dementia because
something is off here, Like this is crazy. This is
not like go up to that man. CV has a
bracelet with.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
His information barefoot too.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Word, man, he really did the whole.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I think he knew he would have to get to
work and hear from everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
If he did it fifteen miles. I mean, that's cuckoo.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I'm pretty sure they posted a picture of him afterwards
who knocked out because he was exhausted.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I was crying too because the very first video he did,
he had to get to work on time, so it
was like pitch black outside.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You can hear all these weird animals making noises. Sauce.
I don't know if this man's going to make it
to work, but he did.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Paul Piers is my favorite, another man that if I
could party with anybody, Piers Paul's my top five, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
All right.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Karen Reid retrol yesterday, Well, Uri a buchanic on the
stand from sun up to sundown and by the way
back on the stand this morning.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Listen. I said saying this to Feign this morning because
foreign and I both watched the whole things. We don't
have lives.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Good for you, son, and I think that during the
cross Alan Jackson did a fantastic job of painting the
picture of Yes, you may have been the supervisor. But
Michael Proctor leaky butthole had his fingertips on everything. He
was a part of everything. And we know today Alan
(04:37):
is working up to how can we trust an investigation
if this is the man that's doing the interviews, that's
signing off on things. I mean, Uri has he has
a pretty impressive background. He's been a detective for ten
plus years. He did two tours I believe in Afghanistan.
He's a marine.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
We all know I have a favorite the Marines.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
H And you know, I think the prosecution kind of
laid that out there, like you you've been doing this
for a long time. You you, you go, You're by
the book, you do it the right way. Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And then Daddy Al gets up and the back and
forth was just wild.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Was that a question?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm sorry everything I say question Honor and integrity by Michael.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Okay, sustain to the comment, go ahead and ask you again.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
This you.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Honor and integrity by Michael Procter.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Okay, I love it.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
The investigation was conducted with honor and integrity, and all
the evidence pointed in one direction, in one direction only.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
So Sergeant Buchanic, you don't want to answer my question?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Correct?
Speaker 6 (05:54):
I will answer your question absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Do you think this case was handled with honor and
integrity by Michael Proctor, sergeant?
Speaker 6 (06:05):
The investigation was handled with integrity by Michael Proctor, but
it wasn't though.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, I mean I was, Yeah, I was saying this
to fore and I'm like he did. In his soul,
he feels like he did the right thing with this case, right,
like he's the sergeant. He handled it with honor and integrity.
I think he's fistfighting himself on the inside because he knows.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
The text messages that Michael Procter was sending.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
But he's still in his soul believes it was Karen
Reid who did it and that he did it with
honor and integrity, even though he knows that these text
messages were sent.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I feel like I could see the battle internally. I
think he could have specified like but then say he said, Okay, yes,
I feel like it was done with honor integrity. Those
text messages were not and deson like, I didn't ask
you about a text message?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, I asked you. You you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
So actually, remember if you remember, we're watching it and
Jackson had to object to himself to him he asked
the question, he answered, He's like objection, Yanna, And then
they had a saba, and I think in the saba
he told the judge to instruct him not to like
expand on his answers, like just answer what I'm asking,
I'm asking because he kept doing that, he kept answering
and then giving context and answering giving and sometimes you
(07:21):
don't want that as a defense law because you're trying
to paint the pictures.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Because I feel I feel like once he gave contacts,
it was better. I mean, like, for example, he said
in his very first interview with Karen Reid, the first
thing she said to him was John never went in
the house, which is like hush, like that's like, you know,
but but if Alan wasn't specifically specifically asking that, you
know whatever. And by the way, that that that person
didn't come out with Alan Jackson, that came out with Hank.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Brennan, I just thought, like, there's there's so.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Much to get through with Uri because he was the guy,
like he was the head guy. And you know, remember
when this all came to light and we found the
text messages and we learned about all of those things.
Michael Proctor lost his job, like he is no longer.
I don't know what the hell that man does for income.
Yury lost five vacation days as his slap on the wrist.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
There was a back and forth with him.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
It got so hot, like I mean again, you can
tell that there's absolute hatred between the two right because
Ury Buchanic is like, she did it, like I know
where the evidence is appointing she did it. And Alan
Jackson is trying to fight that. So what At one
point Alan asks him something and he's like, I don't know,
you know, I'm sorry, Sarah, Like I don't know if
I can answer that, and Alan Jackson goes, you're not sorry.
(08:37):
We all know you're not sorry. You're not sorry, like
comments like that. You know, it got hot between the
two of them. And he's expected back on the stand
this morning. So I'm very interested to talk to Nick
Rocco at seven thirty about him specifically, because I just
think like he was a part of everything and he
knows so much. I mean, he had to hold up
(08:59):
John O'Keefe's bloodied shirt from the hospital because he's the
one who retrieved it. His sweatshirt, the shoe, it was
it was heavy, and I thought to myself, poor Peggy.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I always think about Peggy. I can't.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, especially if he's sitting there and then all the
clothes that he died and is right in front of
your face.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Again, Are these people are just playing games in cortal?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, like going back and forth and it's Mother's Day
weekend and she has lost two children?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah. Karen Reid outside of court yesterday, still seemingly doing well.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Go in the house. I did you saw him going?
I swaged on going that can you describe him going
into the house?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Which door and how and when?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I have though, and I'm sure the prosecution will play it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I don't know if I like her talking this like
this don't much. It's too much, gets too much context
and emotion to people.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
We don't like it. But there's no way Alan Jackson
isn't given the oki dok for she wouldn't. I was
thinking that she wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
He's too strategic to be like, you know, go do
your own thing and go rogue. Nah, this is planned.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
This works when the impact is positive. On the other end,
I don't think it's positive for her. I think it's
giving people an emotional connection to her. That's not positive.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
But like this whole case has been contradictory. Like Jim
McCabe says one thing, then she says another. So Karen
Reid telling the police officer right away I never saw
him go in the house and now saying she saw
him like it doesn't shock me.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
They are. They all are switching up. It's not just her.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I don't know. Problem is that people who are switching
up are actually testifying. Karen's is alleged.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
She's just on Vogue. What do we think this morning?
I change every day where we think she's going to
jail or do you think she's right now?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm leaning to yes.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
No, I still think it's going to be a hung journey.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I want to slap you, but I get what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
I don't think there's really anything that that that's going
to change. In my mind, there's no way, there's too much.
It kind of sounds like maybe she did something, But
then at the same time, it's a debauchery of what
they did for an investigation. Because of that, there's no
way you can sit and then these little little thing.
If I'm a join I'm watching this office and not
say oh, I'm not going to call him the lead,
I'm going to call him this. It's like, why are
(11:05):
we dancing around the facts like it is.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
One thing that upset me yesterday too is like, you know,
Alan Jackson was trying to make up he would Alan
was using big words on purpose.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I'm sorry he wasn't. It was great because URI didn't
know some of them. He's like, can you define that?
I don't know what that means. But there was a
part where he was like, see this, and I was like,
see this. This is a piece of paper. Did you
see this? Did you document when you went to three?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And he was like no, He's like, sometimes we don't
felt the papers right away we were and then he
did say we write it on the bag, so the
dates on the bag, but he never filled out the paperworking.
And it's just like little things that might stand out
to a jury and be like, well why didn't why didn't.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
You see as simple as did you document this? Yes
or no? He'll go like, WHOA, what do you mean
by a document? Was very clear? That seems so clear,
Just answer it. And that's what to me seems so
suspicious is that you will not answer the questions directly,
and these are not like gotcha moments.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
What I then I think about I'm reversing it, and
I'm thinking about me being on the stand and somebody
trying to get to like doup me into throwing YouTube
under the bus, and you're my squad, You're my team,
and I'm gonna be like, well, what do you mean
did he come at five twenty instead of five? Five?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Times? He wasn't. Nobody asked like, you know, I would be.
So he's he's going to defend his man.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
He's been doing this for how many so he's been
doing this to other people as well. He's been trying
to manipulate answers out of people, so he understands the game.
He knows the game that Jackson is playing.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's crazy. I cannot wait to talk to Nick Rokko
will do that at seven thirty. That's three things need
to go for Friday, May ninth. Like I said, the
clock is ticking on that. Kendrick and says the show
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Especially in the Jamie Boy Show with j Foreign and Santi.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
When you need to know, we got you.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Three things you need to know on Boston's number one
for hip hop and the best throwbags you.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Haven't any more.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Five A baby most Man, A Babe Boo Scot Papa
A Babe boom bas Papa Friday, May ninth.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We have a pope. People.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You don't need to know how to say it in Latin.
You can just say it the way you want to
say it. It's happening. Pope Leo the fourteenth leading his
first mass today. The conclave elected good old Cardinal Robert
Francis Provost, who has decided to go by Pope Leo.
Really dope sixty nine years old, was born in Chicago
(00:46):
and graduated a Villanova University in nineteen seventy seven. Fun
fact for you, he is the first American to be
elected as Pope.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Huge basketball guy too. He love loves, he loves assuming
that he has to write.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
He was a missionary who spent his career ministering in
Peru and led the Vatican's powerful Office of Bishops. When
the white smoke came out of the Sixtine Chapel, I
felt something in my soul.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Man, it's just exciting, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I had the thing on live and when you see it,
like everybody started freaking out and like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
God, can I see it?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I see?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh my gosh. They were saying they were not Why can't.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
They say god, oh my god, because this is a
positive thing, right.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
You can't drop it. You can't drop a hard d
on that, all right, I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
But anyways, he's in, he's ready. He seems spry sixty
nine right.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
The last couple of them have been a little bit
like old, like older feeling like older vibes, you know
what I mean. You knew they were mare going to
last like too long. I feel like this dude's going
to be in there for like a minute.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It was exciting that it was taking a little bit
of time because I think it was like building and
building and building.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But it's go time for Pope Leo the fourteenth.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yes Las yesterday. I was like, nobody knows who it's
gonna be. Like everybody tries to do the hope, the
whole thing with like just the predictions, and it never.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Turned out he was not the prediction.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
We're not all cardinals. We don't know what's going on
behind the scenes, you know what's.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Popping off in it. We don't know what kind of
questions they're asking.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, maybe they got in there. And Bob was like, listen, guys,
I got this. Yeah, crost me God for me.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
All right, let's talk Paul Pierce. This had me in
tears yesterday. One thing we can say about Paul Pierce
is he's.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
A man of his word. Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
He was talking about the Celts and he basically said
if the celt not Basically he said, if the Celtics
do not beat.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
The Knicks in Game two, I will walk to work
in my robe.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
This man walked to work yesterday fifteen miles in his bathrobe. Man,
this is really wild, though I can't believe it self
has got me out here like this.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Chris Walked.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The Celtics really played Paul Piers because it was I'm
seeing cars drive by him and I'm thinking of myself.
If I'm outside and i see somebody walking down the
street in a robe, I'm like crack or dementia because
something is off here, Like this is crazy. This is
not like go up to that man. CV has a
bracelet with.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
His information barefoot too.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Word, man, he really did the whole.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I think he knew he would have to get to
work and hear from everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
If he did it fifteen miles. I mean, that's cuckoo.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I'm pretty sure they posted a picture of him afterwards
who knocked out because he was exhausted.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I was crying too because the very first video he did,
he had to get to work on time, so it
was like pitch black outside.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You can hear all these weird animals making noises. Sauce.
I don't know if this man's going to make it
to work, but he did.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Paul Piers is my favorite, another man that if I
could party with anybody, Piers Paul's my top five, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
All right.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Karen Reid retrol yesterday, Well, Uri a buchanic on the
stand from sun up to sundown and by the way
back on the stand this morning.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Listen. I said saying this to Feign this morning because
foreign and I both watched the whole things. We don't
have lives.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Good for you, son, and I think that during the
cross Alan Jackson did a fantastic job of painting the
picture of Yes, you may have been the supervisor. But
Michael Proctor leaky butthole had his fingertips on everything. He
was a part of everything. And we know today Alan
(04:37):
is working up to how can we trust an investigation
if this is the man that's doing the interviews, that's
signing off on things. I mean, Uri has he has
a pretty impressive background. He's been a detective for ten
plus years. He did two tours I believe in Afghanistan.
He's a marine.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
We all know I have a favorite the Marines.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
H And you know, I think the prosecution kind of
laid that out there, like you you've been doing this
for a long time. You you, you go, You're by
the book, you do it the right way. Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And then Daddy Al gets up and the back and
forth was just wild.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Was that a question?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm sorry everything I say question Honor and integrity by Michael.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Okay, sustain to the comment, go ahead and ask you again.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
This you.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Honor and integrity by Michael Procter.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Okay, I love it.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
The investigation was conducted with honor and integrity, and all
the evidence pointed in one direction, in one direction only.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
So Sergeant Buchanic, you don't want to answer my question?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Correct?
Speaker 6 (05:54):
I will answer your question absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Do you think this case was handled with honor and
integrity by Michael Proctor, sergeant?
Speaker 6 (06:05):
The investigation was handled with integrity by Michael Proctor, but
it wasn't though.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, I mean I was, Yeah, I was saying this
to fore and I'm like he did. In his soul,
he feels like he did the right thing with this case, right,
like he's the sergeant. He handled it with honor and integrity.
I think he's fistfighting himself on the inside because he knows.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
The text messages that Michael Procter was sending.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
But he's still in his soul believes it was Karen
Reid who did it and that he did it with
honor and integrity, even though he knows that these text
messages were sent.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I feel like I could see the battle internally. I
think he could have specified like but then say he said, Okay, yes,
I feel like it was done with honor integrity. Those
text messages were not and deson like, I didn't ask
you about a text message?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, I asked you. You you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
So actually, remember if you remember, we're watching it and
Jackson had to object to himself to him he asked
the question, he answered, He's like objection, Yanna, And then
they had a saba, and I think in the saba
he told the judge to instruct him not to like
expand on his answers, like just answer what I'm asking,
I'm asking because he kept doing that, he kept answering
and then giving context and answering giving and sometimes you
(07:21):
don't want that as a defense law because you're trying
to paint the pictures.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Because I feel I feel like once he gave contacts,
it was better. I mean, like, for example, he said
in his very first interview with Karen Reid, the first
thing she said to him was John never went in
the house, which is like hush, like that's like, you know,
but but if Alan wasn't specifically specifically asking that, you
know whatever. And by the way, that that that person
didn't come out with Alan Jackson, that came out with Hank.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Brennan, I just thought, like, there's there's so.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Much to get through with Uri because he was the guy,
like he was the head guy. And you know, remember
when this all came to light and we found the
text messages and we learned about all of those things.
Michael Proctor lost his job, like he is no longer.
I don't know what the hell that man does for income.
Yury lost five vacation days as his slap on the wrist.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
There was a back and forth with him.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
It got so hot, like I mean again, you can
tell that there's absolute hatred between the two right because
Ury Buchanic is like, she did it, like I know
where the evidence is appointing she did it. And Alan
Jackson is trying to fight that. So what At one
point Alan asks him something and he's like, I don't know,
you know, I'm sorry, Sarah, Like I don't know if
I can answer that, and Alan Jackson goes, you're not sorry.
(08:37):
We all know you're not sorry. You're not sorry, like
comments like that. You know, it got hot between the
two of them. And he's expected back on the stand
this morning. So I'm very interested to talk to Nick
Rocco at seven thirty about him specifically, because I just
think like he was a part of everything and he
knows so much. I mean, he had to hold up
(08:59):
John O'Keefe's bloodied shirt from the hospital because he's the
one who retrieved it. His sweatshirt, the shoe, it was
it was heavy, and I thought to myself, poor Peggy.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I always think about Peggy. I can't.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, especially if he's sitting there and then all the
clothes that he died and is right in front of
your face.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Again, Are these people are just playing games in cortal?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, like going back and forth and it's Mother's Day
weekend and she has lost two children?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah. Karen Reid outside of court yesterday, still seemingly doing well.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Go in the house. I did you saw him going?
I swaged on going that can you describe him going
into the house?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Which door and how and when?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I have though, and I'm sure the prosecution will play it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I don't know if I like her talking this like
this don't much. It's too much, gets too much context
and emotion to people.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
We don't like it. But there's no way Alan Jackson
isn't given the oki dok for she wouldn't. I was
thinking that she wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
He's too strategic to be like, you know, go do
your own thing and go rogue. Nah, this is planned.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
This works when the impact is positive. On the other end,
I don't think it's positive for her. I think it's
giving people an emotional connection to her. That's not positive.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
But like this whole case has been contradictory. Like Jim
McCabe says one thing, then she says another. So Karen
Reid telling the police officer right away I never saw
him go in the house and now saying she saw
him like it doesn't shock me.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
They are. They all are switching up. It's not just her.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I don't know. Problem is that people who are switching
up are actually testifying. Karen's is alleged.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
She's just on Vogue. What do we think this morning?
I change every day where we think she's going to
jail or do you think she's right now?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm leaning to yes.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
No, I still think it's going to be a hung journey.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I want to slap you, but I get what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
I don't think there's really anything that that that's going
to change. In my mind, there's no way, there's too much.
It kind of sounds like maybe she did something, But
then at the same time, it's a debauchery of what
they did for an investigation. Because of that, there's no
way you can sit and then these little little thing.
If I'm a join I'm watching this office and not
say oh, I'm not going to call him the lead,
I'm going to call him this. It's like, why are
(11:05):
we dancing around the facts like it is.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
One thing that upset me yesterday too is like, you know,
Alan Jackson was trying to make up he would Alan
was using big words on purpose.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I'm sorry he wasn't. It was great because URI didn't
know some of them. He's like, can you define that?
I don't know what that means. But there was a
part where he was like, see this, and I was like,
see this. This is a piece of paper. Did you
see this? Did you document when you went to three?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And he was like no, He's like, sometimes we don't
felt the papers right away we were and then he
did say we write it on the bag, so the
dates on the bag, but he never filled out the paperworking.
And it's just like little things that might stand out
to a jury and be like, well why didn't why didn't.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
You see as simple as did you document this? Yes
or no? He'll go like, WHOA, what do you mean
by a document? Was very clear? That seems so clear,
Just answer it. And that's what to me seems so
suspicious is that you will not answer the questions directly,
and these are not like gotcha moments.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
What I then I think about I'm reversing it, and
I'm thinking about me being on the stand and somebody
trying to get to like doup me into throwing YouTube
under the bus, and you're my squad, You're my team,
and I'm gonna be like, well, what do you mean
did he come at five twenty instead of five? Five?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Times? He wasn't. Nobody asked like, you know, I would be.
So he's he's going to defend his man.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
He's been doing this for how many so he's been
doing this to other people as well. He's been trying
to manipulate answers out of people, so he understands the game.
He knows the game that Jackson is playing.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's crazy. I cannot wait to talk to Nick Rokko
will do that at seven thirty. That's three things need
to go for Friday, May ninth. Like I said, the
clock is ticking on that. Kendrick and says the show
Monday nights at the Garden. If you want to go
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