Killing Machines Pt 1

Santi ranks the worst beaches in New England

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake yo, Hi everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
It's Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
By the way, it's Tuesday today, and I know I'm
sure I already have a DM.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I haven't looked.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
The weekend show is on Wednesday next Wednesday, June eleventh,
week from tomorrow. Yes, I still argue the same point,
which is that I just hate when we have these
dope shows that are on Tuesday night Wednesday night.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Like give us a Thursday of Fridays.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Eh, if you think about it, if they are on tour,
there's certain cities that are going to get stuff on
the weekends.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, they're just gonna get better, better days than us.
I feel like it's a bowesome thing.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
It's not fair, And you're probably right. The bigger cities
probably get their choice, so they must book around like
Saturday and Friday nights and day.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
They probably look at New York and lay do the
Thursday because and also for a lot of them, that's home,
so they want to be around there on the weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Maybe. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
There are a lot of groups would like to end
in their hometown, especially like La That was always a
thing in the eighties with like all the rock bands.
They would end in La at or a massive party
and then you know.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, that makes it makes sense. I just to me.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I also we also know I have demons, so I
cannot I want to say I can go to a
concert and not drink. I did pregnant, Yeah I didn't
like it. But I can't make those promises. So if
I want to go to the Stevie Nick Show Tuesday night, but.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Why can't you just go and have a couple of drinks?
I think that's what I just don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, no, I know you don't under like you don't know, no,
but like two or three drinks, that's like a like
good positive buzz.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
It's gonna take probably a little more than three drinks
to get me a buzz, depending on what the drink is.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
True, But I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
If I could have just a couple and get like buzzy,
I would feel warm.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well you can, yeah, if it's three specific drinks. But
if it's just like high noons, what's three high noon
is going to be? I'm wasting my time like water
for you, right, nothingness?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
By the way, do you guys like Seltzer's Yeah, I
feel like when Seltzer's first came out, it was white
class city, like nobody else was doing it. They ran
the show, and I think what happened was I drank
so many of the things, like I was obsessed with
them that now I feel like high noons.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I think sun cruisers like these are the ones.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Now there's so many. Though, what's the.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Most popular sensor?

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Whatever they do in to market everybody I see any way,
it's always drinking a high noon. But you're right back
in the day when it first Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Clause the thing financially. So, my brother in law was
a consultant for some companies and he worked with a
bigger like alcohol company, and they said, once they figured
out how cheap it was to make all these things,
every company said and their business blew up across the
board because they're so cheap to make. It's water basically
with like alcohol, they're not.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
To buy because I've been buying them.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
To make is super cheap compared to what it is.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, you know what I've also heard, Well, we tried
cactus jack, we try.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
But juice. How would you know.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
That's coming from Familia, that's coming from Joe's hideaway.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
But this is the second person to tell me I
don't know where to get them because I haven't seen
them in my liquor store because Kylie Jenner has her
own brand called The Sprinter of A Seltzer.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
And two people that have had them have said they're
actually pretty good.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Wow, all right, but I.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Don't I don't ever see them. Maybe they're more of
an l a thing.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
I've seen her sisters. Tequila was called and I've had it.
It's fine, but I wouldn't buy it, like over a
better one.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I'm never I'll try anything. I don't.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Drake could have his own line of booze. It's either
good or it's not. I don't care what celebrity is
attached to. No, I don't care. I go for taste.
But it's just crazy because we're getting ready for the party,
so we're trying to figure.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Out what booze to buy, and.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
It's just the evolution of the white clall is crazy
because I feel like they're getting beat out.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
They fell off the show. Yeah, but those Celsa's are
just so easy to have, especially in the summer, like.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
They really are.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
And by the way, we went with high noons and
sun cruisers, but the sun cruisers are like vodka lemonades.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Vodka iced tea, vodka peach tea. But I guess that's
what people like now. I don't know. The sun Cruisers
seem to be number one on people's list.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Are they less filling because that's always a positive too,
because like if you drink too many beers, you feel like, yeh, yeah,
what was the difference between high noons and Okay?

Speaker 3 (04:46):
So to give everybody a good example, I bought two
nine packs like variety packs of a high Noon yesterday
and that ran me sixty bucks.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Okay, sixty bucks for eighteen high noons.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
And you drink them all? What the white cloth was.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
They were giving it away? No, I just gonna know.
I don't I really, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
But I was trying, you know, I was trying to
go with what I know people will drink because I
don't want leftovers, not that I think we're gonna have
that issue, but you're no, that's a good I don't know.
I don't know what that what the white called variety
pack is. They might want to start doing those.

Speaker 7 (05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
I feel like Hi Noon might be just marketing themselves
a little better better pricing.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Well, remember high Noon is Dave Fornoye that he that was.
I don't know if he owns that or what he
but that was. That was the first person I saw
drinking those things.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
I don't think he owns it. I think it's one
of their companies that does.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
And he might just be their spokesperson.

Speaker 8 (05:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
He posts about them all the time. They even have
now the iced tea lemonade flaw. I think people are
into that, the iced tea lemonade flavors.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, I mean because they give you the feel of
summer and it's sweet, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, it's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I mean, I just remember going out and back in
the day and getting buckets of white claws like I
was dying for the black cherry and the watermelon.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Poor poor white claws.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
I mean, I'm sure they're still making money. Again, it's
so cheap to make that. Every company just bank.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I made them enough money back in the time. Oh yeah,
plenty of money.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Anyways, what's up other than that?

Speaker 9 (06:08):
Now?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I want to drink.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I want to put a little booze in my car.
I know, sisty juice. Let's talk about more about.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
We have no actually In the Morning Show with J
four and it's Santi.

Speaker 10 (06:26):
When you need to know, we got you. Three things
you need to know on Boston's number one for hip
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Speaker 11 (06:36):
Whole career, Arth had been surrounded by the best team
anyone could ask for. So today I'd like to show
my gratitude to those who sacrificed and help me. The
memories that we've made on the field, but more importantly
off the field, will always hold a special place in
my heart.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, we get choked up.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
He was just seeing a big man like that get
tears in his eyes.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
It's just automatic for me.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Tuesday, June third, David Andrews retiring from the Patriots, eight
time team captain. Two rings. I mean, he announced his retirement.
I think we all knew this was coming. We did
know this was coming.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, he got this big tribute video with well wishes
from all of his former teammates, including our guy TB.

Speaker 8 (07:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
I mean, listen, I understand, you play here for ten
years and all this stuff, and he's retiring, but I'm
concerned about Drake May in the future the Patriots. It
sucks that he's on the team because I feel like
the team needs.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
A captain, like time captain.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I think that's the biggest thing that they're going to
be like missing out on you.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Pay, you play for ten years, you're a captain eight
of your ten, that you're a good leader. And his
kids were there and he was saying, like the best
job he ever did was crying, saying was being a dad.
It's just something about a big burly man that you
know could just beat somebody's ass crying like that.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
You know, it's you know, it's really.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
At least we assume he's gonna take a little bit
of vacation, maybe a break, and then get back into
possibly coaching. The Patriots could use him.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Maybe I do know that.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know, he made it very clear that his time
needed to end with the Patriots, Like he didn't want
to go somewhere else and give it a go.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
He wanted to end it in New England.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
So David Andrews, thank you so much for your time
as a Patriot.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
You will be missed. Santia is right onto.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
The quarterback situation.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
He's really fast and goodbye.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
All right, let's talk den him.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yesterday was a movie, and when I say that, I mean.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
A comedy and you know, it's just it shouldn't be
a comedy in the courtroom. It should be a drama,
but it's not.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
It was an SNL skit yesterday when Kelly Dever Dever Dever,
she made that clear multiple times.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
She actually hit Alan Jackson with you don't even know
my name.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
She's a former Camp police officer and now BPD.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
She was basically guys working the desk.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Then, I think, like the day after John o'keef died,
she was it was like a desk job. She got
called for an OT she was sitting at the desk.
She didn't understand why she was there. She did not
want to be there. Let me make that clear, she
did not want to be there. I'll play some clips
for you. You'll be able to tell that she didn't want
to be there. Character SNL skit Like if SNL was

(09:31):
going to make fun of the Karen Reid trial, they
just got the whole script written for them with Kelly
Dever like.

Speaker 12 (09:37):
You can't remember my name, I don't remember I remember
your name.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Is so the answer is I don't remember. No comments,
I think all all right, so no comments, just questions please.

Speaker 13 (09:52):
Lost the police Department supports you at Officer Deaver do
the right thing.

Speaker 12 (09:57):
So he said my name correctly, he said Dever And
that's fun.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
Let's see why don't repeat the question just so, mister Jackson,
Let's go ahead and answer please.

Speaker 12 (10:06):
Yes, And he said nothing with the intent of guiding
me one way.

Speaker 8 (10:13):
I asked you what he said to you? What what
his words?

Speaker 12 (10:15):
Do you that's not a yes or no answer?

Speaker 8 (10:18):
Well, yes, it actually is, so.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
No comments, okay, just you understand the question, the question yes,
the implication.

Speaker 13 (10:27):
The question is in any of those I'm asking you
opening the question in any.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
Of those cases Officered, not including this one.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Let's lose your Michael Cox, what did you up to
his office to discuss your testimony?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
No, listen, that was just like a one minute of
two hours of craziness.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
There there's a clip where she's like, I.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Mean, I guess the answer is yes, and Bev's like,
there's no, like it's either a yes or no. You
don't remember, like you have to give it. So then
for a full sixty seconds, she stared up into the ceiling,
looked around, looked at her shoes, and then she goes
yes like.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
She knew you knew it.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Was yes, but she let.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Me tell you something, Alan Daddy al ate yesterday, like
he shines in these situations. I even think, honestly he
said her name wrong a second time. Jes apiss did
because he you. At one point he literally looked at
her and goes, do you want.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
To be here?

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Because it's it was so evident and so clear. Now
this is where thing got tricky with her. You might
be thinking, ash, why the hell was she up there?
So she's working a desk. Initially, she says, I saw
Brian Higgins and I can't remember what other officers she
said she saw go into the sally Port, and she goes,

(11:52):
and I saw them going there for a wildly long time.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
This was her initial initial report.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Then she has she's shown some timeline and I think
maybe some video footage, and it comes out that she
actually left before anybody even arrived at the Sallyport.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
So they're like, how could you have.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Seen somebody you weren't there, So she completely changed her story.
Now she claims that Daddy al and the defense team
called her and said, if you don't go on the
stand and say your original story, which is that you
saw Brian Higgins in the Sallyport for a wildly long time.
We're gonna hit you with a perjury charge, and she
says this on the sand. So then Daddy Al asks

(12:31):
her about that. She ends up saying, well, after they
threatened perjury, I told the agents of the FBI, she
drops FBI, which, to my knowledge, I know for a fact,
Judge Beth Cononi really didn't want anybody to know that
the FBI was involved in this.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Case, especially the jury.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
But I think Kelly Dever was She was trying so hard,
almost too hard. I think she rattled her own self
and then obviously in the cross and then King did
what he needed to do, which was, you know, make
it very clear that she's a Boston police officer and
her job and and her livelihood is all about her

(13:10):
telling the truth and getting on that stand and telling
the truth. And she's like, that's why I'm doing this.
This is my job. My job is to tell the truth.
I've been on this stand twelve thirteen, fourteen times for
other cases, like I know I need to.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
It was just but if you're asking me, that was
that was that was a win for the day yesterday.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I mean, but honestly, Alan Jackson knew exactly what to
do with her. He knew how to rattle her, and
she I think she crumbled. He likes wall with these people,
he does. And again she started out that she she
was a defense's witness and didn't want.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
To be there. And I understand she doesn't want to
be there, right, But you could still not want to
be there and answer the question because when you start
playing all these games, it makes you look suss.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
You're not You're not a regular civilian, you're coup. He's
supposed to have a certain kind of demium. And the
way she's coming off is very unprofessional and it kind
of makes you in like, damn, I you want to
call it. You want to call the FBI because you're
saying that they want us to lie. But in the
underneath all that you did lie. You lied and said
one thing and they changed your.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Story to something.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
You either lied that you thought you saw them and
you didn't, or you didn't see them.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
It's the other.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I don't even maybe not like you said that.

Speaker 14 (14:19):
You said that you changed your story because you lied, and.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
It sucks because you make it make shady.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
You could still answering and knock them off like that.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
It's shady, and maybe they have actual video footage that
that dissolves anything she said, but it's still weird that
you said it in the first place, and.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
So combative and defense expressions. My god, you just had
all kinds of twisted. I just picture her boyfriend that man.
That man gets chewed up. We said this off, she
pulls you over, you are getting a ticket. If you're
not nice to hunt and if you feel is going
to get you, like you don't even say her name, right,
you're getting the book thrown at you, bro said multiple times.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
She said multiple times, I don't even know why I'm here.
I don't even know why I'm.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Here because like most of the people they have up
there aren't really like appealing on the eye. It's something
about her. I kind of liked.

Speaker 8 (15:15):
I liked it.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
I liked what I was seeing after a couple of drinks.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, and she was dressed like she was trying to
be like, you know, very pro. Imagine she was in
her regular street club. Yeah, it was no, it was
wild up there. And and by the way, I think
a really good difference is again she's the defense's witness,
as was doctor Marie Russell and doctor Marie Russell you
could tell was there to help the defense. Kelly Dever

(15:47):
was not. We don't have enough time. We'll get to
doctor Russell in the next hour. But what a time
it was in Denham yesterday.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
All right.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
And lastly, for those of you that didn't are into
this son you might be. I don't know. Mariah Carey
announcing we got a new album on the.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Way they pay, They pay.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Sat.

Speaker 8 (16:13):
They pay.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
This interesting maybe fifteen years ago, but she has lost it.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I think it would interest you if it was like
miss just no man, Yeah Christmas.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
This comes out in December. That's a year story. But yeah,
a new album from her. This is not appealing.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
She got into a car and then MC sixteen flashed
onto the screen, so she she got a new music comings.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
It's not gonna be good. We can all I mean, she.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Has, she got the pipes.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
She doesn't not anymore anymore. If you hear about her
live shows, it's like a struggle and she doesn't even moved.
She's up at like a statue. The only thing, yeah
give give the high note, which she doesn't have like
like anymore. You know, they say no really said she listened.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Amazing career well that our time.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Well that's the point her time is there was.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
There was a time where she touched it.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
It was turning goals absolutely. You know, I don't want
her linking up of boys to men. Magine, oh that
song right there.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Back in the day she gave in here and she
was acting crazy to the point where she was one
of the few they banned forever from here. Yeah what
was she doing? I know it was back in like
the early two thousands, like late, like just being Mariah
what you would picture like a diva acting like and
just acting crazy and people here like listen, I never
thought that somebody was insane like her, but she is

(17:38):
crazy certified.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I mean they literally call it her a diva for
a reason.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
It reminds me of a celebrity where they would they
would say, you can get seventy five bags of Eminem's,
but I only want the red ones, So I only
want to see those in my dressing.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Pretty sure on her rider like back in the day
to everything had to be white and all that. She's
still like that. Yeah, why why because she is like
like a what you going to take a nap? And
the whole time room's white. It's gonna be like the sun.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
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Speaker 2 (18:29):
Hi, everybody, good morning.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
You know, Santi's always up to something weird on social media.
I can't keep up. But the latest is, well, there's
always there's always gonna be village home services always. The
newest thing is he's like teaching people how to post
on social media. So he's, i would say, an assistant
to content creators.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah, I'm a consultant. I'm do I do that on
the consultant, that's the word.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
I should be so consultant for other people's social media accounts. Yes,
and now we well we kind of have always had
these like top five places things that you do, and
so you were doing one about the best beaches in Massachusetts.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
And I've done I did a couple of years back,
and it was a big thing and people were, oh,
thank you and I and I did too. I did
the worst beaches.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
The beaches are the towns.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Well, just keep the waves the followers. Yes, yeah, but
I did the worst beaches and I did the best.
So the best beaches was more positive.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
And you had a beach that was on worse that
made the best.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
And that was Hampton Beach because back in the day,
like Hampton Beach had its issues with glass on the
beach and a lot of fights. Since then, they've cleaned
that up, and I picked it as being one of
the better ones now because of the nightlife. It's positive,
it's fine, there's stuff to do there.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
I got to hit the nightlife in Hampton.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Beach, yeah, and it was one of the few ones
that has like a good scene like that. There's a
strip of clubs over there, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Like clubs are bars.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Clubs actually they clubs.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, and this fried though.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, you can't go wrong.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
But there is a beach that has consistently popped as
the worst.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
So people were asking me make your list of the
worst beaches. So I said, fine, but I want to
hear from you, Gaull. So the consistent one that came
through there were two of them, King Beach and Lynn
is awful. It's one of the worst ones. But the
overwhelming one was Revere Beach. And I've said this for years.
The Revere Beach is dark, it's always wet, it's not fun.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
If I'm somebody who knows nothing and I've only listened
to this show and only heard you talk about Revere Beach,
I'm not going on too Revere Beach unless I have
steel tipped toe boots on, because if not a needle.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Well that's the other thing. I had. At least seven
people say it's the needles for them that they hate there.
I guess it's pretty consistent and it's bad. It's an
issue there. And don't forget last summer they had a
massive brawl there where there were gunshots and all this
that there was.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
Yeah, outside, those are time Revere Beach aesthetically, look the
part they try to clean it a little bit, but
I remember there was a time when Revere Beach that
looked run down.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Now they tried to pave the road. They try to
make a nice little pier.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
You know, they tried to improve it a little bit,
even though it didn't really do much for you know,
the behaviors over there. But there was a time when
revera beach that looked horrible.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
You posted one specific response that you got foreign this
is this was somebody saying that Revere Beach is the
worst beach they've ever been to.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
And then she detailed as to why, like what happened
to her at the beach.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
She basically said that she's sorry man who seemed to
be homeless taking a dump on the beach and white
things but with napkins from Kelly's roast beef. And you
know that's not made up.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
That really happened to specific specific to be made up.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah, and you can't forget this was also the beach
that last year. I think there's a video that went
viral the couple having sex like on the beach, and
people happens at every beach I did look at, but
the way that this one was it was too close
to like the street, right, and they got bosted. They
were sand all over them, like beach is a problem,

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an issue, and that's why. And I'm not even sure
Kelly's is still there. I'm pretty sure like Kelly's has gone,
by the way, that was the best Kelly's to go to.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Kelly's ran away. Kelly's was like, we can't be a
part of this.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
We got it's still there, might still be there, is it?
Is it like on the corner Kelly's. I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's like a little like I just.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Remember people talking about going to that Kelly's. Actually never
I've never had it.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Kelly's never had it like the original one.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
I have never had a Kelly's roast beef sandwich.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
It's really good.

Speaker 15 (22:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
And then and then known for their for their lobster role, right, I.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Guess they bring food down they kids went to wait
all the time, never down here.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
You went to that beach a couple of years ago,
right for the sand castles. I did, and and you
were excited. I told you don't go there.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I was gassed. I was like, oh man, they're doing
this huge sand castle thing.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Now listen, if I could delete everything else I saw,
and just saw those sand castles. I was flown away
by what these people can do with the sand castles.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
But I I'm not ever going to that beach.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
No, I know. And even on like the sunniest busiest day,
like middle of like fourth of July, like heat, the
sand is still dark and wet, which I don't understand
why it's always just like soggy.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
It's tough to like, you, don't.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I feel as if it's hard to make a beach
like dirty because it's the ocean and it's outside, and
it's the sand, but it felt like unclean.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
And for some reason, the water there always seems to
be like dark and murky, and it's probably where like
the bay is and where where like the carments fall,
but it just makes for just a bad beach.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I also judge beaches off of the sand, like I
want the sand to be soft.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
You guys must have some amazing stuff down down gorgeous way.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I actually the other day I was like Marshfield relax.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
I posted that a lot of times in the afternoon,
that it's getting nicer. We'll do our little afternoon outside
adventure at the beach because we live on the beach now,
And people from Marshfield were writing me saying, you're posting
the beat our beaches too much, like these are our
own little secrets.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Shut up, gatekeeper, shut up, dude.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
No they're not.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
They're not a map like you can you just follow
to worthy. It's not a secret. What are you talking about,
like getting annoyed that I'm posting.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Well, they must not want people to park down there too,
and people who aren't.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
You can't if you don't have a Marshfield Beach sticker,
you can't park down there. Or you can, but it's
like close to impossible. They make it pretty impossible. It's
hard even for Marshfield residents. It's kind of hard and right, Yeah,
I have it, but I had to pay for it.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, I have the same thing from my house up
in Maine too.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, but it's like this isn't like.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
A public Yeah, you can google beaches and it will
pop up, but people, you know how they get about
that stuff.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah, and then again beach is another awful beach with
King's Beach. King's Beach they had to shut it down
like two years ago. They shut it down for eighty
three days because of basically ross sewage was was leaking
in the water. Yes, that's not a lie. Raw sewage
deuce is is floating around.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Isn't it so funny to think about like that? And
then we're so close to like a nantucket, Yeah, Martha's Vineyard,
these places that people travel to from all over the
country to go to beaches like that.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
But then there's also King's Beach with poop water.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
I mean, the vineyard in Nantucket's great. But at the
same time, you got to watch out for all the sharks.
That's the most negative thing about that.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
But that gives me a thrill. Yeah, well, no, not
to swim with them, but like to know that there's
like when I was.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
When I was when I got to Chatham, you can
walk on the beaches and there's all the signs that
say like could be shark activity. Gives me a thrill.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
But the walk on the beach, you're not going in
the ocean and like, hey, let's go swimm.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Job, why do I put like a tow or two in?

Speaker 3 (25:56):
But but I like the idea of that I could
be sitting on the beach and seeing a shark fan
that's cool to me.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
And seeing it eat a child squeeze.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Sharks are more afraid of us than we are.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Not great whites. Those are killing machines. I don't mean
people like understand that those are killing machines and not
afraid of anything killing machines.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Would we every day we have a death from a
great white shark, But we don't.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
Well, they most likely eat.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Actually, in fact, we talked about this one time when
Aaron people were bombarding us with messages of like that
that that's not true.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
That what that they're killing machines.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
They are killing machines to humans, not the humans unless provoked,
or they're just.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
It's not like they're killing just going to chat and
being like, Okay, I'm gonna eat a kid today.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
You put them together, they can eat. They're gonna eat
some people. You put a person next to a like a.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Shark, that's not necessarily.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Not every like if a great White is hungry and
there's a kid there, gone, this isn't draws.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Okay, this isn't the target.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
This isn't the movie. Listen, am I volunteering is true
for this? No I'm saying no, I'm not, but I am.
I'm telling you when the last time we discussed this,
somebody hits with the stats and they don't you look,
the SATs are coming in, they're making the stats are
coming in six one seven nine three one one five.
Somebody tell this man please six one seven nine three

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one one nine five that the Great Whites are not
here looking.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
For humans to eat. Check check Hi, everybody, Good morning.
It's Ashley in the Gym of Morning. So we've been
here before where we've talked about the.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Beaches and you never know where the combo's gonna take us,
and Santis saying Revere Beach is absolutely grotesque and there's
no worst beach on the planet, and then we start
talking about that the differentiating factor for beaches in this
area is not It's like you could have King's Beach
poopy Water, and then you could go to Nance Houcket,

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which people again come from all over to go to it.
And then we got into the shark com though, and
Sonti's like, well, then you have to be worried about sharks.
And I think there's just something about being on the
cape and there's a thrill to walking past the shark
sign like.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
You might encounter one. But come on on to our
nice beach.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I love it. But I also know that the sharks
aren't out here to eat us.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
They're not.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
But Santi seems to every time we do this, you
just make things up, killing machine, killing machines, he calls them.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's no, they're not, are they?

Speaker 4 (28:27):
What are they? Then? They're meant to?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I find do you mean to fine, but are you
talking about two seals?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yes, to a seal, A great white shark is a
killing machine two humans. No, all right, so hold on,
hold on while I go to a marine biologist.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
As a marine biologist, I can tell you sharks, even
great whites, hate eating people who're just bones and corilage
to them.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
They got to take a bite of us to know
that it's just and be like, oh, I didn't like this.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
And then move on to the next. By then you're.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Missing a lie. How many you're missing?

Speaker 4 (29:07):
A liver attacks in the world. Don't just do here?
Don't just do here because they're all over like they're
all over the place. I don't even do great white
shark just you know, he said.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Great white Okay, globally globally seventy a.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Year, seventy oh one one life is too much, thank you,
your number thousand what you want to but you wanted
to say.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Listen and provoked globally.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
By the way, a very small fraction of even those
are fatal.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Shark attacks are rare, okay rare.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
There was a lady who died in me in like
three years ago. She got she attacked by a shark happened.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Only guys only ten got got in twenty twenty three.
That's nothing globally ten.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Months.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
Ego Baye, Jamaica. Lady just got attacked out there last week.
Well what was she doing swimming in the shark water,
which she shouldn't have been the.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Thrill she was begging for it, I said.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
The thrill to walk on the beach, pass the sign,
take your little picture.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Could I'm not kidding it about me.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
I could send you a video of a guy getting
eating alive off the coast of a of a of.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
A beach and he's like screaming and everybody's like, oh
my god, he's stunning, and then he disappears in red water.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Come on, that's all right, here's here's your choices. Here's
your choices.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
There's a great white shark swimming out in the beach
in Chatham, Okay or Revere or Revere white shark.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
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Speaker 10 (30:57):
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Speaker 11 (31:05):
Five Her whole career ar if I'd been surrounded by
the best team anyone could ask for. So today I'd
like to show my gratitude to those who sacrificed and
helped me. The memories that we've made on the field,
but more importantly off the field, will always hold a
special place in my heart.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Tuesday, June third, let me tell you a big gets
me choked up hearing that right ten years that man
dedicated to the Patriots. Eight time team captain, two rings.
Obviously the rings are great, but eight out of ten
seasons you're a captain, so I have to David Andrews man,
it's very interesting seeing a big, burly man that looks
like he'll just chop down trees and build a log

(31:47):
cabin and a fire.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Crying like that.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
You also have to assume at some point he's going
to make it into the Patriots Hall.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Of Fame pastrits. I think that's nice.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Well over do You also don't get to see many
send offs like this. Most players just even go to
other teams.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
You don't.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
And he even said in there, listen, I have the
opportunity most likely to go to another team, but like
this is where I wanted to end it. And then
at the end his two little boys came out and
they're young, their babies, and the wife brought the and
it just he was like, this is my greatest role.
Like I'm so happy to be able to just like
be a dad. I can't back before kids, I'd be.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Like all right, but now it just it hits different.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
So he hung up the cleats, but not without the
most amazing send out a nine minute tribute video, and
Tom Brady was included.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Of course, he is, he has to be.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
You love to see.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
It, all right, I'm sorry, David Andrews to get through that.
Nobody wants to talk about Kelly Dever more than as
Shey Felming. Okay, Kelly Dever shined yesterday. And I'm not
necessarily saying in a good way absolute character snl skit
in detum. If I'm describing the Karen Reid case, I
don't want to have to say it's a comedy, but
it is. That was nuts. So she's a former can

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police officer now works for BPD.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
She's the defensive witness.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
This is important people, because when asked by Alan Jackson,
do you even want to be here? She basically was like, no,
I don't even know why I'm here, attitude mad, taking
sixty seconds to answer yes or no questions, staring at
the ceiling at the shoe is guest written on your shoes? Pretty?

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Oh yeah, definitely get mind looking either.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
But I'm an absolute you know what, you don't want
to be pulled over by Kelly Dever.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
You're one hundred percent getting a ticket.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
I mean, you won't get a ticket if you just
answer her questions directly like she didn't.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Here's just a one minute compilation of the star Kelly
Dever like.

Speaker 12 (33:44):
You can't remember my name? I don't remember.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
I can remember your name is?

Speaker 6 (33:49):
So the answer is I don't remember. No comments, I
think real all right, So no comments, just questions.

Speaker 13 (33:58):
Please police department supports you at Officer Deaver, do the
right thing.

Speaker 12 (34:04):
So he said my name correctly, he said Dever.

Speaker 8 (34:07):
And let's see the question.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
So, mister Jackson, let's go ahead and answer please.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yes, And.

Speaker 12 (34:16):
He said nothing with the intent of guiding me one way?

Speaker 8 (34:18):
Or I asked you what he said to you? What
what his words?

Speaker 12 (34:23):
Do you that's not a yes or no answer?

Speaker 8 (34:25):
Well, yes it actually is.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
So no comments.

Speaker 8 (34:31):
You understand the question.

Speaker 12 (34:32):
The question.

Speaker 13 (34:33):
Yes, the implication the question is in any of those
don't I'm asking you opened the question in any of
those cases, Officer Dever, not.

Speaker 11 (34:45):
Including this one.

Speaker 8 (34:47):
Let's misher Michael Cox. What did you up to his
office to discuss your testimony?

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Now, Kelly Dever, speaking of hanging out with sharks, would
have rather been in a Chatham beach with sixty five
great White, been on that stand yesterday. She didn't know
why she had to be there. She hated being there.
She hates the defense basically, if you're wondering why was
she there ash Essentially, she's working the desk the day
after John o'keef dies and it was an OT shift.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
She got it. She's sitting at the desk when asked,
did you.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
See anybody going to the sally Port, She's like, yeah,
I saw Brian Higgins go in there for a wildly
long time. That is the initial story she told back
in what twenty twenty two?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Uh, fast forward, I guess she has shown a timeline.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
She's shown video footage where hey, you were gone, it
was impossible for you to see a Brian Higgins, you know,
doing whatever.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
She changes her story so when the defense calls her
to go on the stand.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
She claims they say to her, you have to say
what you saw, and you said you saw Brian Higgins
in there for a wildly long time.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
And she's like, well, no, I.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Changed my story, and they I guess. So she says, said, well,
this is perjury. We're gonna charge you with perjury. She goes, well,
then I called the FBI a massive bombshell. Now to
the jury. Wait, why the FBI is involved in this?
And the FBI told me no, they can't charge you
with perjury. So and then now and Daddy Al just
ate her alive.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I mean, Daddy Al was like, who's Who's who charges people?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
She was like, no, who charges people? To the police, like,
so charging yourself with perjury?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
It's just it is.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
She gave to me a try hard who lost it,
Like she really was trying hard, and she she ended
up just taking a massive ill.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
And that's the thing. If she didn't want to be there,
she didn't need to try hard to like have that
come out of her.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
But for those of us that were getting a little bored,
I'm full on back. The entertainment value alone of one
Kelly Dever was enough for me on the on the
prosecution side. You know, Hank basically did a good job
of kind of setting the groundwork for like, you're a
Boston police officer. Your job is to take the stand
and tell the truth. Are you protecting anybody? Would you

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lie on this to an you know, just kind of
making it very clear she has no need to lie.
Once shown the timeline, she changed her story. But it
just goes back to this initial thing of so were
you lying on Brian Higgins in the beginning or did
you really see it Brian Higgins? And now you're lying
because either way something is off here.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Why would you say that?

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Why would you make up a story if he wasn't
even you know, if your timeline was so off.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
I thought Alan Jackson shined yesterday. I don't care who again,
what side of the aisle you're on. I thought he shined,
and I thought he did a phenomenal He was pronouncing
that woman's name wrong on purpose. If any of you
think he wasn't doing another purpose, you're crazy.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Rattling feathers out there.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
That's my guy.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
And then we had.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
On the opposite end of doctor Marie Russell, who is
obviously a witness for the defense.

Speaker 16 (37:40):
And clearly, clearly, very clearly a shining, shining star for
the defense, saying without a reasonable doubt of scientific certainty,
whatever the frickin' line is, she believes that John O'Keefe
had dog bites on his arm.

Speaker 14 (37:57):
And what is your opinion and conclusion and concerning those injuries.

Speaker 9 (38:02):
So there are multiple groupings of wounds. These multiple groupings
are patterns, and they are, in my opinion, were inflicted
by the teeth and clause of a dog.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
So then Hank gets up there, and Hank, which I
thought was hilarious, he's basically like, you know, you used
to write for the Boston Globe, and that's how you
found out about this trial. You reached out to the defense,
didn't you. She's like yeah, and he goes, you wanted
to be a part of this high profile case, didn't you. Now,
obviously she's going to deny that, but she is the

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one who actively reached out to the.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Defense and said, you know, hey, I'm trying to talk
to daddy. Al I think something what's wrong with that?
If you're a writer for the no I think that's weird.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
I think the writing is part.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
You're a writer for.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
The Globe and you, yeah, and you see how big
everybody's talking about this case. By the way, you live
out in god only knows where. You know nothing about
this case. A picture pops up, but you're you're writing
for the Globe.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
I don't mind it if she's just an expert that says, hey,
I can help. But the writer part, I don't like.
I really hope that she didn't get involved with this
just because she wants to write a book like that.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
She testified that she only learned about this case through
reporting for The Boston Guy.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
And she admitted that she's trying to be This is
her new cares. She's retired from whatever she was doing before,
and her new care is that she wants to become
an expert for a lot, for anybody that needs.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
On a case.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yea. And by the way, this whole case Karen for
for well, she's saying she's an expert for dog bites.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
But I believe that she just like worked in the er.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Yeah, and she said.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
She's an expert in that part, but she says she
does a bunch of other things. So far, this is
a career move. She's like a cool I'm getting involved
in the case, Yes, it might bring me some light
and then I can get other jobs.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
So it's I just I don't know if you guys
feel like this, but the word expert is trash to
me now, because guess what I can. I can go
ahead and find me an expert that's going to prove
story A, and I can go ahead and find me
an expert that's going to dispel story at Like, that
word to me is nothing anything.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
I mean, we could get called onto the stand to
be expert witnesses in the radio industry. Who the hell
are we?

Speaker 4 (40:20):
I mean that we are right, and I mean we
can play this game. Experts don't got the qualifications?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
All right, there are you? It's just I don't know,
am an expert for what?

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Like?

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Am I an expert mother of two?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Like we're looking for a mother to Can I go
testify that mothers of two?

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Experience? Experts could be different than another expert. Absolutely, but
you're going to pick the one that sides with you.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
It's just interesting, all right.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Push A t doing an interview with GQ magazine, and
he spoke about his relationship with Kanye West.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
He has also worked with Ya.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
He said his friendship with him started to crumble prior
to any outlandish online statements. He said, we made some
great stuff. We did, But let me tell you something.
He's a genius and his intuition is even more genius level.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Right.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
But that's why me and him do not get along
because he sees through my fakeness with him. He knows
I don't think he's a man. He knows it, and
that's why he can't build with We cannot build with
each other anymore. That's why me and him don't click,
because he knows what I really really think of him.
He showed me the weakest sides of him, and he
knows how I think of weak people. The greatest thing

(41:39):
he did and why I'm okay with where him and
I are right now and I'm cool with staying that
way is because at the end of the day, my
truth is my truth, and I still respect what he
did in his business and he respects and he speaks
ill about the music we've made and giving me certain records,
and the one thing he did give me was all
the profits back from the Deaf Jam deal.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
So I think he's basically like listen, I'll give him.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
A nod because of what he did here, but I
don't find him to be a man. I thought that
was an interesting line of he showed me the weakest
sides of him, and he knows how I think of
weak people.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
I mean, and that he's you know, he's moving like
a weird ass way at least like I thought, what
you're doing, you're like your sleez ball, like your snake,
and instead of just being real and you know, manning
up and just saying what it is or being honest
about how you feel, you want to go do it
the sleezy way.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
So I picture it like Yay cried to him and
he was like, hold me, push push. The t was
like your being weak emotional. Probably I haven't listened. We
have no idea and give exact examples. We can only
but it seems like Yay made sure he got the money.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Or could it be the fact that he still has
a hostage for like two years. It could it could
be that.

Speaker 14 (42:46):
Yeah, we don't know what push your tea about. That
does one hostage? He doesn't give a damn.

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for Beyond the Swipe is always changing. One week it's
women calling in to tell me how terrible it is
out there. Another week it's somebody going through like a
bad time in their relationship and they want advice. Or
sometimes we all can come together and hate one person.

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And I love that. I love that we're gonna all
be able to hate Jake from North Reading because Jake
is about to brag on his relationship and I don't
believe it for a second, Jake.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Not one second.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Hello, tell everybody about this amazing three year relationship that
you've been in.

Speaker 15 (44:21):
So we both started off equally broken. We have a
path of addiction and a piece of relationships and not
knowing unconditional love, things of that nature. We found each
other and at first it was rocky, but we made

(44:41):
a decision early on in the relationship to communicate about everything,
how we're feeling, how things make us feel, certain situations
make us feel. And then we came up with a
no double standards rule. So that means if I'm going

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to do something that she wouldn't like, then I would
expect the opposite situation to be reflected on how I
would like it. Decide things. We don't do things that
we wouldn't like ourselves for the other person. And it's
been three years. We haven't had an argument. We've had

(45:23):
a lot of difficult conversations, but we've never raised, raised
our voices, degraded each other, called each other names, and
we flourish. We do fun things. I try to follow.
We like to do that dating rule. We go on
a date every once in a while. They see things interesting.

(45:44):
Oh yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Said in the beginning of this call, Jake, not to
cut you off. That everybody was going to hate you
collectively because and you haven't gotten to this part yet,
but you told us that you and her in the
three years you've been together have not.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Fun one time.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Okay, that's true.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's not true because you because you then
defined by the way for when he started out by.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Saying, when we first met, it was Rocky.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
That's okay, Jake, that's we got to count that.

Speaker 15 (46:16):
So your definition of Rocky and my definition of Rocky
are two different things.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
You're right, you could be an extra for the defense.
I could be an expert for the prosecution.

Speaker 15 (46:25):
Go on exactly. My Rocky was I didn't know how
to receive or give unconditional love, so I took everything
as an attack or I was too defensive about.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Saying, okay, but that's that's a fight.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (46:45):
When it becomes a fight is when you're yelling, degrading.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I got in a fight with the fireman last night.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Doesn't push the chair and I didn't go ahead.

Speaker 15 (47:04):
So I would consider a fight from past abusive relationships.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah, I can't compete with that's obviously.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
But Jake, as you weren't receiving on you how to
give love, that there was some tension built up because
of that, right, because obviously she was hitting a roadblock
and you didn't know how to receive it, and you
just said you would get defensive and kind of you
know what I mean, and kind of be like, what
the hell is this?

Speaker 4 (47:28):
So y'all had arguments.

Speaker 15 (47:29):
So my defensive was my insecurities, right. I had a
lot of insecurities from past relationships, so I would bottle
those up and she would notice something was wrong and
she'd tell me it's all right to, you know, express
how you're feeling. And me, coming from a past where

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you know, men don't express their feelings, was hesitant to
do so. And then one day I very calmly just said,
do you really want to know what's going through my mind?
And I laid out this impossible scenario from insecurities, right,
and in my mind the pattern made sense, And once

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I said it out loud, I realized how ridiculous it
was that my brain, that my brain had put forth
that pattern, and I was like, I was like, you
know what this actually isn't it doesn't have anything to
do with you. Now, this is mid conversation. I'm saying
this to it. This actually doesn't have anything to do

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with you. This is stemming from this experience in the past,
and that's when I that's when I began to realize, like, okay,
we can we can work through stuff without having to
bottle things up, without having to get aggressive towards each other,
without without needing to be mean to each other. In

(48:58):
three years, yeah, it's been three years, and the first
time I got emotional over there, I was still stuck
on the men have to be men, you know what
I mean? And uh, Jake, instantly.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Do y'all have disagreement that we don't believe in that
on our show we have santi.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Do y'all have disagreements? Jake, like, y'all don't dis Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
You're really gonna We're not asking real questions. We're trying to.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Rest because this is too perfect.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
No, Jake, he didn't mean that.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
So anyways, this sounds like a great relationship and honestly,
she sounds like a keeper. This is great, so awesome,
This is awesome, And I take back what I said.
I don't hate you. I just I got a girl
on hold who's pregnant and the guy dosn't know, so
I got to run. But thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (49:42):
For I know.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
No, my god.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Stephanie is in low.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
We're moving on stead, Hi girlfriend?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Wow? Hello, so let's shout about you.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Two months met a guy at the cheesecake factory.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
That's my type of establishment. Let me tell you love
it there?

Speaker 15 (50:14):
The man was free.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yes, oh okay, so you meet him at the cheesecake factory.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Does a relationship flourish or is it just kind of
a hookup situation?

Speaker 8 (50:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (50:25):
So he gave me his number and on the receipt,
so I texted him and we hung out and you know,
it was like an on and off thing. And I
just found out I was pregnant and he doesn't know.
But what I didn't tell foreign is I went to
the ob and they think they saw too, so I
have to go back today.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
No, I'm it's just.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
I don't mind if you're lying, it's fine, but.

Speaker 17 (50:58):
No, no, no, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Can we just ask them and make sure and they
are his?

Speaker 15 (51:04):
Of course?

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Okay, I'm sorry. You just wanted to make all right.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
So it's only been two months, though, do you consider
him a boyfriend?

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Like?

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Are you are you excited to tell him? Are you
nervous to tell him? Where are you at?

Speaker 13 (51:14):
I don't.

Speaker 15 (51:15):
I'm scared.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (51:17):
I was.

Speaker 17 (51:18):
I don't know what to say, how to put it together,
because it's not really.

Speaker 15 (51:21):
Like a good situation for me.

Speaker 7 (51:24):
Why because I'm pregnant with a stranger's kid.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Well, it's I'm asking. So you guys just hooked up
the couple of times. You're not spending time with him
at all.

Speaker 7 (51:33):
It's not not really No, it was just like on
and off texting.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
How old is he?

Speaker 15 (51:44):
Mid thirties and you mid thirties?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Okay, well, listen, he's mid thirties.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
He can handle this, Okay, Like, let's I think you
can handle it.

Speaker 7 (51:55):
But he's a waiter at the cheesecake factory.

Speaker 15 (51:57):
That's the problem.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Well, that's.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Problem, Vagina's problem. That down. Okay, let's not. Let's let's
not bring this man down. He's the father of the twins. Okay.
And by the way they.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Put mac and cheese on their cheeseburgers there, you should
be bragging about doubts.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I feel weird about this call.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
I feel weird about it because she basically just degraded
him because he's a waiter.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
If he was a lawyer, with your feeling. He's not
why she's scared. She's scared because she's about to have
babies with a waiter.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Sounds like fact.

Speaker 17 (52:31):
Not about him being a waiter, it's about being pregnant
with someone I really don't know. He could be a lawyer,
he could be adopted.

Speaker 7 (52:38):
It's the same thing.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
I mean, Steph, we understand that when we have sexuals
without the proper protection, that there's always a roll of
the dice.

Speaker 15 (52:48):
I know.

Speaker 7 (52:50):
I'll keep you guys posting.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Okay, promise, yes, all right, hang on the line there stuff.
I want to talk to you off air. Don't go anywhere.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
She needs a talent. But that line right there definitely
changed the whole feeling about the whole thing. Like I
did feel bad for but the minute she said that
she seemed to bring up that was a major issue.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
And that's just rude.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Like you know, she liked it when they were doing
it without a condom, okay, like that's what happened. And
by the way, had she said, oh, we're in our
early twenties or something, they're mid thirties.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
They're grown ups. I mean, like the ban taxes.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Guys, nothing in this world is free. That free meal,
got you tweens that bang bank.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
But you're right, the free maial It started out as
a nice little love story. So wrote the number on
the receipt. Uh anyways, six one seven nine three one
one nine four five six one seven nine three one
one nine four five. We're talking dating, love relationships. Proofs
be honest wife.

Speaker 9 (53:48):
Kind of.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
What a wild ride we've been on thus far.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
For the Beyond This Wife segment, we had Jake who
tells us that him and his old friend of three
years have never gotten into a single argument, but yet
their relationship started out rocky.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
And then we had a woman who met a waiter
at the cheesecake factory.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
They hit it off.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
He paid for her meal and wrote his phone number
on the receipt, And now she says she is pregnant
with twins, but she feels weird because he's a waiter
at the cheesecake factory. Oh, shut up the way she
said that. I hate like that. No, that's daddy, Yeah,
that's who that is, lady. I had a woman write
me and I won't say the number, but she's like,

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I feel disrespect that I work at the cheesecake factory.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
And it was a nice number. Yep, she's doing fine.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
But to that girl, it just doesn't sound good. The
way she tells all the people he's a waiter, she
probably doesn't like.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Well, then use a condom, okay, I mean for the
love of them.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Uh So, anyways, our first call, like I said, was Jake,
who said our relationship started out rocky, but it's perfect
now three years. I mean, he really was detailing what
their relationship is and how you make it work. And
they just don't fight. He says, they just do not fight.
And I said, she sounds like a keeper, you know.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Uh and look at us.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Sheila is now calling Jake's girlfriend, Sheila, Are you with Jake?

Speaker 7 (55:12):
Oh hi, No, I am not. I'm at work and
he's at work.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Oh good, okay, good, because you know he's a little
long winded.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
But he had just the most amazing things to say
about you and how you basically told him straight up,
you know, stop hiding your emotions.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
You know he was holding onto this.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
I'm a man, I can't tell you how I feel
on my emotions, and you you broke down the barriers
and you said, be honest, talk to me.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I want to know what's going on. In your head
and he's he's better for it.

Speaker 7 (55:41):
Yeah, and you know that was that was difficult for
both of us because of our past, our past lives,
our past trauma, our past relationships. It was hard to
open up and and be honest. But once we got
past that barrier, you know, and getting past that and
I heard you guys given him a little resistance, so
I just wanted to hop on and tell you that.
You know, but by Rocky, he he wasn't meaning that

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we had a bad relationship or arguments or fights or
any of that. Rocky meaning it took a lot of work.
You know, a good relationship and a loving relationship and
a supportive relationship takes hard, hard work. And none of
that has to ever involve arguments. So that's not saying
we don't disagree on things. Of course we disagree. No

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two humans are ever going to agree one hundred percent
of the time.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
That's what I needed. He didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
He made it seem like you've never uttered the words sorry,
r y to each other.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Okay, No, we.

Speaker 7 (56:38):
Don't say a lot of sorries. There's no need. But
you have things that we need to be sorry for.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
But you have you have gotten arguments or disagreements, which
again is normal, and that's okay.

Speaker 7 (56:52):
No, no, I'm gonna say no, no, no, we haven't
had it.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
I feel like I'm okay. So the answer to that is, no,
you have never once.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
What's yeah, like what We've never once been mad at
You've never been mad at him. He's never like not
pushed the chair in or not put his shoes on
the shoe rack, or maybe just swept out on the
banister or nothing, use a decortel, clean the pot anything.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
Nope.

Speaker 7 (57:18):
Never, not once have we gotten angry with each other,
raised our voice at each other, made each other feel
less than, or degraded or called names. None of that ever,
not once.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Jake and Sheila ideal. Yeah, I mean that, that's as
close as you're gonna come. Well, there you have it.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
That's the thing.

Speaker 7 (57:36):
People use the word lucky all the time, but this
luck has nothing to do with it. You know, it
takes willingness and hard work, and if you want you
know the outcomes, then you have to put in the work.
And it hasn't always been easy, but that's not because
there's a lot of.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
These insinuations Like it was rocky, it hasn't been easy.
We've gotten disagreements with so yeah, so I can't on
the other side of that, when I hear those words
that leads us to believe it hasn't always been like
rainbows and puppies, which, by the way, is cool.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
We're not, you know, especially if you work that position.

Speaker 7 (58:11):
So the work I guess I'm I'm speaking of is
more self work, internal work, work that it takes to
be the best version of yourself for yourself and for
the other person. And of course everybody has insecurities and
troubles and things like that. But when we come about
those things, we talk about it. We don't fight about it.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Communication is key.

Speaker 7 (58:33):
Are you guys married, No, we're not.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Is that part of the plan, Yes it is. Yeah,
I don't know why you're mad. I'm doing I'm sensing.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Yeah, we're just trying to get to the bottom of it.
Like we're cool, Sheila, like me, and you are good.
I said, I think you are cool. Yeah, we're cool.
I think you're a great You could just tell the
way he speaks about you. You really you you know,
you really did some amazing things for that man.

Speaker 15 (58:57):
So so that.

Speaker 7 (59:00):
Same he's an amazing man, and I love him very much.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
He's good.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
All right, I gotta run, I gotta talk, you know,
a little smack about you. But I appreciate the call.
And I'm so glad that you guys have this amazing relationship.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
I don't believe it, but there's messages that are very positive.
They communicate well, they they've unpacked you. But you say
that like you are now in a space where you
don't do it. That is absolutely crazy. And then sometimes
when you get to this point, you speak about other
relationships like, oh, they aren't as good as us because
we have done all the work and stuff like that.
And that's how that is coming off.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
You almost learn who each other is in a relationship
to when you get through that, you have to kind
of see the person in that and it's okay, I'm
not but by the way, we're fighting for the fact
that it's okay to get in an argument. Pas.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Yes, but they're trying to act like they never got it,
never done. And again, it was rocky.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
I had low self esteem, had disagreements, disagreements, it was hard.
That sounds like people who unpacked things and they didn't
like what they saw. They figured it out, figured it
out and it's cool. I got to a point now
where y'all know each other and you know, okay, we
don't got a beef. We they just talk things out perfect.
But you can't tell us that that's how it was
in the beginning because both of y'all are saying the
same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
They remind me of the influencers like online who who
journal every day, get up the five cold plunge, this
and that. And if you're not doing this and you're weak.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
If that's what it feels if you do not argue
with your significant Although y'all don't know each other, because
the day y'all beef is the day y'all gonna separate forever.
So get into a little fight. Get to know the
kind of person that you're dealing with, so that way
you know they triggers and how mad they get.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
Period.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Hey, not Jake and Shila. Though not Jake and Sila.
Jake and Sheila's home is a place that I want
to be.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
I need that in my life because I'm telling you
right now, if the fireman doesn't push in his chair
one more time, it's divorceland and more fields