She's Living Under A Rock Pt.1

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everybody, and then there were two buddy, I know,
just me and you.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's quiet in here, it is.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I feel bad for him, so obviously DJ forourren. What's
jj forearn up to in Florida? What's my what's my
latest update? Have you seen anything? Aj? Have you seen anything?
On Snapchat? Sometimes he posts a little bit more there, Yeah, okay, university.
Oh nice, they went to full Sale, which is where
one of his sons is going. He's up too, He
just posted two minutes ago.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Like why is he up at six o'clock in the morning.
He's on vacation, he is. He's the strangest person when
it comes to vacation, like he goes to random spots,
doesn't tell anybody. But then he's up in the morning.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I know, like, why are you up at six eleven?
Maybe he has a flight early because I know his family.
They are coming back to March. Unfortunately, they're going from Orlando,
coming back here for Nor'easter from World did we Oh,
they're flying in. They're gonna be like, why did we
come back from Florida? So he never took them to Disney,
is what? No?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
But I think he said that before. I think we
were that he was going to, but you should just
at least go and see the area round. Yeah, Born
has never been, so he doesn't really like under understand.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I think if he went one time, he'd be like, Okay,
I get it, Yeah, I get it. But anyways, he's
still out, so Jules has been holding it down for
him in the meantime. So now you have to picture
Jewels is in the car listening to us right now,
because Santi got a text from him just a few
minutes ago saying, I overslept my phone died. It's giving

(01:29):
Malcolm Butler.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I know it's like I understand that if maybe you're
like seventeen and you don't charge your phone, you.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Get up to take your Sunday school like, but.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
At this point in your life. And I think Jewels,
I don't know how hold he is. He's like forty right,
Like he shouldn't want to is forty? I do because
I'm forty four, and I think he said he's around
my age, So yeah, like you should not, like why
is your phone dead? Jewels?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I agree to you, guys, I said to Santi. I'm like,
should we just tell him like it's fine to stay home?
So he said, no, you gotta teach him a lesson.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
He's still old for them. Yeah, right, it's a great opportunity. Now, well, I.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Agree with you, and but it also lends to like
you're forty years old and you're sleeping till noon. We
know how I feel about that. Yeah, it rubs me
the wrong way when my mother on the weekends, like
I'll call her at ten am, eleven am, she's still sleep.
I know she gets so mad when I say this,
but that's the truth.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
And I feel like you guys have gone on too
fights about this way. Lafttime was because she was still
sleeping at nine am. Right, couldn't handle it.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
I couldn't handle I was like, what, you're a grandma,
now what do you sleep until nine? For? What?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Did like? Does she go to bed late? Is that
is that?

Speaker 1 (02:35):
No? She just my mother has always loved to sleep.
I like sleep too. I just can't sleep anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I actually have a daughter that like sleeps till like
ten or eleven, and it drives my wife's crazy. It's
do that, I know, I understand. But then she rolls
out of bed like on the weekends and looks like
a disaster man throws my wife, it's like crazy, it
is weird people.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Jeweles does that. So you know today he may have
been sleeping till noon. So he's thrown Now he's in
the car in here like Cruella de Ville. He doesn't
have his milk coffee with sugar. He's not going to
be well. He woke up at six oh six? What
town does he live in?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
The new new Bedford? So it's good like it's at
least an hour right, wow?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
So what are we thinking seven to fifteen?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
For me?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Maybe if we're lucky like I do, you should should
we text him and be like not to come? But
I don't know. I feel like at this point in
your career, you you know.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
It's up to you. I it's I mean, I think
at least.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Ask him, do you want to stay home?

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Car?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Come home?

Speaker 1 (03:29):
And be like are you in the car? Have you
left yet? He's if he is in the car, he's
giggling right now because he knows what if he says
something crazy, you know, put him on speaker.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
If he's listening, he knows we're calling him live. He
must Joel's Joe's don't say we're on the air. Are
you on your way in or are you gonna just
go back to bed I can head over there now,
it's gonna take me two hours, Okay, So I would
stay home. Yeah, just stay home, get some rest. Yeah,

(04:00):
you know, just do your thing, just go just go
back to sleep.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
I probably won't go back to sleep because I got
things to do.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
But here your things that do was were to be here.
But I understand that sometimes things happen. But all right, my.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Jewels, by two hours, where is New Bedford.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's down south, So you go twenty four south all
the way down. It is pretty far.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
It's a hike, yeah, and I mean it's now it's
you're hitting rush out.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
But I think the unfortunate thing is just exactly that
by the time you get closer to Boston, it's just
bumping a bump.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah. Plus the weather is bad out there.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's just all right. Well, long weekend for Jewels.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Luckily for you guys, A J and Santi on the
phones today, we got a we got a small skeleton
crew if you will, but we will get through it. Hi, everybody,
good morning. We got jury drama and some diddy updates.
We'll talk about it next morning.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Jamie Morisia with DJ Foreign and Santi.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
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Speaker 1 (05:13):
Thursday May twenty seconds and let's start in New York.
You know it's funny because I was telling Santi earlier, guys,
there's been such fireworks out of the courtroom with Ditty.
I mean, for the love of God, we had a
man by the name of the Punisher up there this week.
So when they have a day where there's not any

(05:34):
punishers or baby oil photos, people might call it a bore.
But yesterday we had a federal agent, an expert on
abuse trauma, any former executive assistant testifying in the Ditty trial.
Remember we're looking for these racketeering and sex trafficking charges.
The agent and the assistant gave kind of further testimony
on Ditty's drug possession, and the forensic psychologists kind of

(05:58):
spoke about how victims of abuse tend to behave because
I think, and I'm sure you've seen it too, there's
this narrative of if it was so bad, why did
she keep going back? And it's it's strange to me
that people even ask that question.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
We have seen.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
It time and time and time and again.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
But I feel like that comes from people who have
never been abused or gone through some traumatic thing like this,
and it's easy for them to say that from the outside,
but once you're in it, like, it's a different story.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I use the example of iken Tina Turner all the
time because it's like, how many times did Tina go
back before she was like enough?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
And at that time she was the top of the world,
one of the most so many people ever, Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I do believe that the assistant George Clapp Kaplan is
going to resume testifying this morning, but he will be
followed by Kid Cutting and for other witnesses that are
expected to testify. I thought it was interesting because the
guy who was the male prostitute known as the Punisher,

(06:56):
went on TMZ and did a little interview and he
basically said that when prosecution came to him in twenty
twenty four, he didn't really understand why. He said, you know, yeah,
I saw Cassie WinCE a couple times or look annoyed,
maybe because she didn't want to do something. But other
than that, he said, I didn't notice anything weird, Like

(07:18):
it seemed like this is kind of what they did.
He did describe did Hey as looking like a Muslim
woman in the corner, like completely veiled up, Like that's
the look he would go for to not be recognized.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
H Y a veil thing. That's just very weird for
me to say.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, it's interesting, but yes, the punisher also detailed some
of the things that Diddy would request. And I've said
it seven and eighty five. Did he sick? I cannot
stress that enough. Did he is sick? But with that
being said, did he being sick doesn't prove to me

(07:54):
these racketeering and sex trafficking charges, which I still think.
I still think there's a plan. I still think they
have something.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
And the punishing like he never really probably saw the
abuse to like, you know, he was there just for
the saxon, for the ditty.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Stock she was putting on a show. She was afraid.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, he was like, who's that weird guy in the
corner with the veil?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Right, So gear up, everybody, looks like we might get
Kid Cutty on the stand as early as today. All Right,
we are wrapping up week five for the Karen Reid
to retrial a nice long weekend ahead. So at the
end of court yesterday I called Santie. I was like,
this is interesting, Judge Bev giving off Thursday aka today, Friday,

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and Monday for the for the retrial.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Which which is going to feel like a vacation for
all of them.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
I was listening to a lawyer this morning on a
podcast and he was asked straight up, like does this
hurt or help Karen with this many days off? And
he's like, listen to me like that. A lot of
people think these lawyers just to go home and have
dinner and sit and chat and maybe watch Netflix. Like
they're working from sun up to sundown, so people need
a break. Even the jurors need a little bit of

(09:07):
a break. And speaking of the jurors, we had jury
drama yesterday, so court starts, we're on the show talking
about it. I'm like, this is so strange. I've never
seen this. The fan is all like the second Court
started at nine am yesterday. Then Judge Bev Canoni comes
on and she's like, listen, I need to speak to
each jury member privately, one on one at sidebar. We

(09:30):
need to handle something. Then we'll get back to court.
So speculation went crazy. Here's a woman, a journalist that
is inside the courtroom with a little bit of inside info.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Today.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
On May twenty, first, court started late because Judge Canoni
mentioned an issue that required her to speak with each
juror individually. An interesting detail here. When testimony resumed, all
eighteen jurors were still present in the jury box, but
two had swapped seats. Now one of those jurors, well,
I've actually seen him giggling with two others during sidebars

(10:04):
on two separate occasions, and shortly after those giggle attacks,
the judge specifically advised jurors not to make faces or
mutter during testimony.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
But I want to be.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
Perfectly clear here. They are all paying attention, very close attention,
even during the technical testimony, and the majority of them
they take notes reliably. And although some people on social
media have reported it, I have seen no jurors sleeping
or nodding off. So overall, this jury pretty stoic in
their reactions throughout the trial. But hey, just like all

(10:35):
of us watching this case unfold, they're human too, and
they will have reaction.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I'll have to ask Nick about the sleeping tomorrow because
I've never heard that, but the giggling, the moving of seats,
so on, they moved a man and a woman. They
switched their seats. So when they came back to court,
they took these two specific jurors and switched their seats
so they were no longer sitting next to each other.
All I can picture is me and you. Me and

(11:00):
you are seated next to each other. It's the twelfth sidebar,
and I'm like, what is going on? And you're giggling,
and you're making fun of somebody in the courtroom, and
we're having our little back and forth. And I think
it's important for people to remember, because I actually forgot
about this as well. The jurors are not allowed to
speak about this case. Guys. They're not even as much

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as allowed to look at each other and kind of
nod their heads. They are not to speak to each
other about this case until we get final arguments. So
when they go home for the day, they don't speak
to each other.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
And even when they're in the back, they aren't talking
about the case.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
When they go to lunch, nothing, when they're in the back, nothing,
they're being watched. They are not ever to talk about
this case until they hear the final arguments. Then they
go and they.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Deliberate hypothetically speaking, right, if it's a guy and a
girl and they say they're on this case and they're
you know, starting to make a connection and they exchange
phone numbers and all that stuff, could they be a
like something happened where they're starting to not date, but
like hookup or something like that where they're like, listen,
we have to stop this, wait until after and let's
move them around.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Abe. You know, I would think if it was getting
to a relationship status, she may say let's get a
replacement juror in here. I don't know. But they also
remember they're expected to go home and not look at
social media and not talk like you literally not utter
a word about Karen Reid or John O'Keefe until deliberations,
which is weeks away. Back in the day, jurors didn't

(12:31):
go home. They were sequestered.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's right. They would go into like a hotel.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
They would go to a hotel. They would go to
a hotel where TV's were taken out, phones were taken out,
like a real sequester. So you knew and it was
guaranteed they weren't discussing they weren't watching. Now, It's like,
you can't do that. And some of the people are
by parents, you know they're gonna go home.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Also, I'm going home and I'm telling my wife, like
they really.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
No, I'm going home and I'm putting on my TV.
And if someone says that, Karen Reid, I'm taking a
look Ski. How can you guarantee that they're not doing that?
You can't.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
And then the other part too, if people are taking notes,
I'm gonna glance oversee what their notes saying.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
And I have heard that that, and Nick has said
that that these these jurors are taking a crazy, like
copious amount of notes. Yeah, but you know they're for us.
It's like, you know, I watch this religiously. I do
my best, and I'm so confused. Some days I don't
know what I'm watching, and I keep thinking I am
a jury member. I'm a jury of your peers like

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they are us. And sometimes so I love having Nick
on because you wish that these like the brain surgeon,
for example, Yes, Dad, I thought he was amazing. You know,
we kind of learned from him. He believes one hundred
percent that John fell and that is where he got
that injury on his head. He said he did not
get hit with a weapon, his injuries would look completely different.

(13:46):
But when he says it, I don't know what. I
don't know what words he is. You know, it's it's
it's just these medical terms that are so far it's
not in layman's terms. You don't get it. Uh. And
the jury's not allowed to watch it back like we are.
I watch that. I watched a little snippet again this
morning of the brain surgeon's testimony, and you know, I'm
starting to understand it a little bit more. But they're

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not allowed to do that, so they hear it once
and that's it. We also learned a lot about the
glass that was found on the bumper is not a
match to the glass that was from the cocktail glass
in which you know, there's this there's this theory that
John got mad at Karen through the glass at the
car it shattered and so there would be pieces of

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the glass on the tap. It's just a lot, and
it's very technical. Right now, we're in like the very
technical parts of all of this.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
The technical parts aren't as exciting as like the other part.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
No, the jury stuff is so exciting, even Karen got
asked about that. What were your feelings this morning when
there was some kind of issue with the jury. What
are the emotions?

Speaker 7 (14:46):
We've had these before, So we just wait for the
judge to evaluate and let it play out, and it
all works out.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I feel good about the jury. I feel good about
our selection. She feels good about the jury. We think
two of them are honking at all. Right, and lastly,
free Brazy Chris Brown has officially been released from jail
in manch This is way ahead of schedule. He wasn't
supposed to be even talking about bail until June thirteenth,
but his bail was set at a cool six point

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seven million USD dollars. He was dechanged in charge after
being accused of committing grievous bodily harm during an alleged
nightclub incident with a music producer. The bail now will
allow him to start his world tour in Amsterdam. His
first show is July eighth, so I think he'll be
at Fenway and we won't have any issues.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I think it's safe to say if I'm him, I'm
never going back to the UK.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, right, He posted on social the second he got
out from the cage to the stage Breezy poll. That
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Speaker 1 (16:11):
Oh god, we just love a little drama, don't we.
Thursday Memorial Day weekend, and it's a big, big possibility
that Jordawn and Bill Belichick might be in Nantucket this weekend.
We don't really well, I mean it's it's md W.
You know, it might be like fuck out wee weekend
or something, who knows.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
But you know what's funny. Yesterday you mentioned him changing
the name of his boat, which confirmed I I guess
the fact that he could have been engaged. I actually
saw a picture of it that does not look photoshop
at all. It looks like he actually did.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
So, if you weren't listening yesterday, there's a rumor that
Bill and Jordan, So I think he's making me say
Jordan's Jordan. Jordan are maybe engaged because she's told a
few people that. And his boat was named like eight
rings yeah, and that's ring yeah, And now they're saying
one plus no. I feel like the number was eight.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I think it's eight because he won two with the Giants.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Okay, because I'm like, I think it was it. And
now it says on the side like one plus eight rings.
I don't know if it's true. But by the way,
I don't. I don't think they're in Nantucket because she
posted this photo nine hours ago and the weather looks gorgeous,
and she this is my favorite. She put old Bay
with my old bay, which is hilarious. She was having

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old Bay seasoning on the table and her and Bill
were having wings and she put old Bay with my
old bay. Hilarious. I like her.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I respect that because again that's that's the obvious joke there,
just the age gap. So at least she's acknowledging it
in honing.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
It very true. So Santy sent me this yesterday and
he's like, Ash, this is hilarious. So this happened in Nantucket.
Speaking of Friday, December sixth of last year.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I think it was during there. Like you know, they
have the Holiday's Stroll thing.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Personally, don't disrespect it. It's called the Christmas Stroll. It's
the best thing ever. If you're a Christmas head and
you don't know about the Christmas Stroll in Nantucket. It's
think Halloween but for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Time and without people who are poor too, right.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Very accurate. It's expensive to get there and it's even
more expensive to stay, but it is such a fun
party and you dress up like Halloween but in Christmas form,
and yeah, you gotta have a little bit of coin
in your pocket. So it's Christmas Stroll weekend. You're right,
because it's always the first weekend in December. And at
this certain event, Linda Holiday was attending. Linda Holiday is

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Bill Belichick's ex, which remember some people say he cheated
on Linda with Jordaan. Whether that's true or not, we'll
never know. But Son, you were saying, this was a
party and Linda was there and her daughters were DJing.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, and they were basically putting on this event.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
So this like incident rapport. Is this from the policy, it's.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
From the police. An officer wrote this, wrote this entire
time because what ended up happening They called the police
when Jordan was there.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
It's a quick read. I'm gonna read it.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
So.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
At approximately nine point thirty on the evening of Friday,
December sixth, I was notified by Dreamlands Programming and Events
manager Katie that Linda Holiday, mother of the DJs at
the party, had requested to speak with me at the
first floor check in station. Police were called. Okay. After
approaching Miss Holidays, she let me know that she was
upset by the presence of one Jordan Hudson, the current

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partner of her ex boyfriend Bill Belichick, was at the party.
Miss Husen was a paying guest. No concerns had been
raised regarding her behavior, nor had any issues been reported
to that point of the evening. The event began at seven,
but Miss Holiday felt her presence was just inappropriate since
the event was widely advertised as a party headlined by
her daughters. She asked that I removed Miss Hudson from

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the premises, to which I responded that I was speak
to Miss Hudson. After contacting Dreamland executive producer Alicia Carney
to discuss the matter, WHI, while on the phone with
Miss Carney, was brought to my attention that there was
a confrontation in progress in the studio theater that missus
Carney flagged on security cameras where the dance floor and
DJs were located. Missus Carney reported to me that she
had deserved threatening body language and escalating aggression from Elin

(20:10):
and Miss Holiday towards Miss Hudson on the security footage,
and that Miss Hudson was currently surrounded by the three women.
I approached the group at the crowded dance for room.
More than two hundred people were dancing, and I noticed
several people filming, including Miss Holiday. A conversation with primarily
Miss Hildebrand with some commentary from others I won't name him.
Miss Hudson attended the event with her friend Melissa Sappini,

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who is the current title holder of Miss Mass Long
story shorts. We come to find out that towards the
end of this party, Lynn, the Holiday grown woman's two
kids threatened Jordan Hudson's friend, this Melissa Peppini woman who
is Miss Mass, telling her you don't get it together,

(20:52):
and you guys don't leave, you don't go get I'll
get your title, Yanks.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
But at the same time, I think I kind of
understand their aggression because because like the girl who your
boyfriend cheated with, rolls up to the party that your
daughters are hosting, you're not going to be upset.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Listen to this. While miss Subpoenie did not speak, this
is miss mass she began to cry and moved to
the corner of the lobby of the interior box when
and stood there for some point with her back to us,
it was clear she was wiping her eyes frequently, like
she need her cry.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
I know, Linda, I understand she got aggressed at the
same time, like the jump off walked into the party
with a friend, so you like she got in front.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I think I think Jordaan going to this party was
certainly like a peacock.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Absolutely, So I'm flexing on you. I don't care who's
running this party. I'm in Nantucket, it's the Christmas Stroll,
I'm going to this party. I do think there was
a little peacocking happening, but she didn't do how do
you call the police for this?

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well, that's the part that's really crazy. I feel like,
as an adult, you have a adult conversation, like, Jordan,
I understand we're in a weird thing here, but could
you please leave it make it's making me feel uncomfortable.
My daughters here and also my friends are here. It
just makes me look really bad.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Miss Holliday thanked me for my help and said something
along the lines of if this didn't involve my girls,
I don't think this would have bothered me as much.
But because it did, the mama bear in me came out,
and at that point I wished everybody a good night,
and she presumably left immediately, as live camera footage revealed
only Miss Hudson and Miss Subpoeni in the lobby.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Now, is there a chance that Jordan didn't know that
this party was being thrown by them? Absolutely? But from
what I'm understanding, Nantucket's a small circle of people, and
I think you she must have been aware that it
was their party.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, I feel like And remember there was a headline
just last week that Jordan wants to get close with
the people in Nantucket and kind of because she's going
to be a part of the society. But Nantucket's small, dude, Like,
it's not. Yeah, listen, is it weird that she wanted
to go to that specific party. Yeah, you could go
to any party in the world. You could. You could
go right to the Club Car, which is an awesome bar,

(22:57):
that's Kevin Spacey great bar. But you know, she didn't
have to go to this event. And I get it,
but I just I don't know if this is calling
police worthy. It's annoying and you and your friends are like,
who is this? Why would she come to this party?
And I'm sure maybe it got to the point where
her daughters were like so flustered by it and her
presence there. But I mean, the cops, this is something

(23:18):
you would do, absolutely, and that's why.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I can justify.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
And the cops like, did they attack you, no? Did
they look at you? No?

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I I guess technically I did something like this similar
because at the time I called the costs of golf
because she was kissing some other guy a party next
one to my house and they broke up the party.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
So yes, I do, i'd similar. But in's why you're
defending it.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
In my defense, I was twenty and I think this
goes back to her age thing. I think because she's
twenty three or twenty two, like at the time, her
immaturity kind of shows there.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
And can I also say, I like, I understand the
hurt for Linda Hallidy. Yeah, Linda Holiday and Bill were
together for some time, like some time, and I'm sure
she thought that that was endgame for her and that
was what that was gonna be. And then not only
to be left by him, but for a twenty four
year old that you might now be engaged in with
a boat called one plus and eight rings like that hurts.

(24:10):
It would hurt me.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, And I think like these these interactions between x's
at parties or events and stuff like that can never
be good unless you have this really dynamic relationship where
you've been married, divorced, now you have kids, and everybody's
on the same page. This clearly was not that that
whole situation.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I also never, ever, ever would have imagined that I'd
be reading a police report involving Bill Belichick's X and
current Bill of all people who hates the media, hates
the public, eye, hates all of this, like hates this,
and this is who's in the report.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
The surprising thing about this, too, is in that report
they talk about people filming. Why didn't we see these
videos like anywhere how which is crazy to think, which
is also to the point of like the circles down
in Nantucket are like special, they keep secrets.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
If you're listening and you have a house in Nanta
Bucket and you would like to be my friend, please
at Ashley Feldman to ease on the Ashley I can
keep me secrets. I can keep secrets.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Es actually, and the Jamie Morning Show with Foreign and.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
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things you need to know on Boston's Number one for
hip Hop and the Best Throwbags you Haven't any more five.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Thursday, May twenty second, and uh, you know, we've had
days in the karens retrial as well that are kind
of a little slow. So I think yesterday that's why
with the Diddy trial we didn't get fireworks like we've
been getting online. There wasn't any new photos of well,
there was a few photos of the inside of Ditty's home.

(25:44):
Did you ever catch e on? Yeah, So they showed
like inside his bathroom and some of his closets in
the house, and he had writing all over his bathroom
mirror like lockally people would like leave notes in lipstick,
but something that was sticking out to a lot of people.
Is he had boxes of hair dye.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Oh really, which listen the Yeah, I guess at his
age's hair should be white, and I guess it's not surprising.
I mean, they could be worse things.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
There was more than four boxes, Like oh really, yeah
he did and by the way, he did himself. So
there you have that.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I also think for a man to go like salt
and pepper, like, I think it's fine.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
That's the tough part. When a man goes salt and pepper,
it's it's handsome. Not saying him, but like just in general,
it's it's handsome for us. It's just he's raised or
just stop. I just got them covered up the other day.
But it's just every I look at my kids and
I'm like, you've did this to me. It's definitely them
father time ring me up. But anyways, we had a

(26:46):
federal expert, I'm sorry, we had federal agent, an expert
on abuse trauma, and a former executive assistant yesterday testifying
for Diddy's trial where he's looking at these federal racketeering
and sex trafficking charges. The assistant and the agent kind
of gave further testimony on his drug possession, while the
forensic psychologists spoke in general terms about how victims of

(27:07):
abuse tend to behave I think because we know the
defense was trying to switch the narrative like, well, this
was an abuse. Cassie liked it. She was asking for
freak offs, and I think it's important to have a
psychologist up there to kind of say, well, no, she
was being manipulated, she was being abused, and she thought
that this is what she was supposed to do. I mean, listen, nobody,

(27:29):
no female, without going into just graphic details, wants to
for forty eight hours have sex NonStop and lay inside
a baby pool filled with baby oil. Nobody wants that.
All I'll say is that's begging for a monaster. Okay,
we're not nobody. Nobody wants that. It's not it wouldn't

(27:50):
be I mean, and that's why she kept getting these
infections after infections, and the antibiotics were like, no, we're
not doing anything for you anymore. I think the big
story now is we're going to finish up this morning
with the assistant George Kaplan, and then it's happening. Kid
Cuddy is going to take the stand today, followed by
four other key witnesses.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Wouldn't you have thought that the assistant would have had
more to say because you picked her, these these Hollywood
like assistants being in the know of everything.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
I'm just kind of shocked that they didn't have more
to say.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah. I also think too, when you go from having
the punisher on the stand too, here's Diddy's assistant, people
aren't as like, oh my god, you didn't hear.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
As much unless the assistant is like, you know, getting
paid and he's gonna lie, he's gonna hear she or
they're going to watch Yeah, George is gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Kit Cutty should be good.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Kid Cutty should be good. All right, let's head to
Deadum week five for Karen Reid. We got a nice
long weekend ahead, and I think it's important to note
that Judge Bev Canoni said we are head of schedule.
Notice I'm saying we. She said after court yesterday that
everyone's going to take a break. They have off today, Tomorrow,

(28:59):
and Monday, meaning a nice five day weekend for Karen
Reid and the crew. Karen was actually asked outside of court,
what will you do with five days. Her response, sleep in,
turn my alarm clock off, and not wear heels. So
I think everybody needs a little bit of a break.
But we had a lot of jury drama yesterday court
started all of a sudden Bev Canoni makes a announcement

(29:20):
that she needs to speak with each juror individually.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Today on May twenty first, court started late because Judge
Canoni mentioned an issue that required her to speak with
each juror individually. An interesting detail here. When testimony resumed,
all eighteen jurors were still present in the jury box,
but two had swapped seats. Now, one of those jurors, well,
I've actually seen him giggling with two others during sidebars

(29:47):
on two separate occasions, and shortly after those giggle attacks,
the judge specifically advised jurors not to make faces or
mutter during testimony. But I want to be perfectly clear here.
They are all paying attention, very close attention, even during
the technical testimony, and the majority of them they take
notes reliably. And although some people on social media have

(30:08):
reported it, I have seen no jurors sleeping.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Or nodding off.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
So overall, this jury pretty stoic in their reactions.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Throughout the trial.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
But hey, just like all of us watching this case unfold,
they're human too, and they will have reaction.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
I need everybody to close their eyes and imagine Santi
Diolio and Ashley film in on that jury. We're sitting
next to each other, they're doing the seventy fifth sidebar.
We notice something in the courtroom, somebody maybe like a
fart sound or something, and we look at each other
and we laugh and we giggle that like that's what's happening.
Because you have to keep in mind, these jurors are
not to speak to each other about the case. So

(30:44):
when they go for lunch or there's that first twenty
minute break of the day, they're forced to, you know,
talk about other things, the weather, their plans, maybe they're
fam anything, but the case they are not allowed to discuss.
So maybe two of them, you know, they're they're becoming friend.
Not to say there's a relationship, but enough to say
that they could look at each other and laugh over

(31:04):
a jokey joke. I don't know, but I'll say this.
They had to be moved seat wise, which must a
man and a woman had to be moved seat wise?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
If you're having giggling attacks up there.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Like that crazy we're talking. There was a brain surgeon
on the standing, what are we giggling about?

Speaker 2 (31:23):
You like, I haven't heard anything that I think.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Is like really, now that I'm thinking about this, she
made this announcement yesterday morning, so meaning she must have
noticed people giggling on Wednesday. That would have been Shannon Purgase,
So maybe they were just like, look at this man's face.
He's as red as a tomato. Like the little strand
of hair he has left on his head is definitely
falling off. It's gonna go smoke cigarettes. I don't know.

(31:47):
But she didn't bring in an alternature, so she clearly.
Judge judge about Canoni feels like moving these two, I
guess is the appropriate.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
So they are the problem clearly.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah. Karen, by the way, does not seem to be
bothered by this at all. What were your feelings this
morning when there was some kind of issue with the jury.
What are the emotions?

Speaker 7 (32:05):
We've had these before, So we just wait for the
judge to evaluate and let it play out, and it
all works out.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I feel good about the jury. I feel good about
our selection. She feels good about the jury good about
the selection.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I mean, the more issues you have with the jury,
the better it is for them.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Right I would think our guy Nick roco is going
to join us tomorrow at seven thirty will break everything down.
Yesterday we heard from a brain surgeon who said John
definitely fell backwards and that is how he got that
you know, big alteration, alteration, laceration, laceration on the back
of his head. He also believes he did not get
hit with a weapon or anything else. It was from

(32:42):
a fall. But I thought this was important. He did
say he doesn't believe that he died right away, that
this hypothermia could have played a role in his death.
Do you remember, And not to get too graphic, and
if just so we're clear, I'm going to discuss some
of John O'Keefe's injuries if it's too much for you,
but the pick sure of John's face. Remember his eyes
they looked huge and they were black and like you

(33:05):
could tell they were like filled with blood. When Jen
McCabe described seeing him for the first time and Carrie Roberts,
they said, you know, there was his eyes, his eyes.
I did not know this. I learned this yesterday from
the brain surgeon. Those injuries come from a brain injury.
So when you have like a bad traumatic sort of
brain injury. I don't know. I'm not a doctor, but

(33:28):
I was under the assumption that the defense was trying
to say, oh, no, those those could be from him
being punched. The surgeon is like, this is common to
what we see when there's a traumatic brain injury.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Now, if you're not a surgeon, it's easy to assume
that they are. They were like that because he was
beat up.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
If I just saw that, that would be like, Wow, he
got punched in the eyes. You know, that's what you
would think. But it was interesting to learn that. Yesterday
we also learned a little bit more about the glass
on the bumper and how the forensic scientist wasn't able
to make a connection between the glass and the bumper
to the cocktail glass from the waterfall. Again, nik Rokka
will break that down for us and more tomorrow at
seven thirty in the morning. Tough go. If you're a

(34:04):
Shakira fan and you went to her concert at MetLife,
you gotta believe somebody potentially from around here went to
her show.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Absolutely, Yeah, do you know this story?

Speaker 1 (34:13):
No, I don't So the New Jersey Department of Health
announced that one person who went to Shakira's show at
MetLife has the measles. So now they believe there was
you know it, potentially exposed. Individuals, if infected, could develop
symptoms as late as June sixth As the time of

(34:35):
this release, it was May twentieth, So no additional associated
cases in New Jersey have been identified. But you have
until the six to see if you notice any sort
of you know, symptoms that could develop, meaning you may
have caught the measles from hips. Don't lie.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I mean at least MetLife Stadium is not too far
away from the most densely populated city in the world. Yeah,
but besides that, fuck man, the measles are going around
the NYC.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, yeah, they The best is the initial line is
New Jersey officials that Shakira's continent Medlife statum may have
been an incubator for the easels.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Like, good thing. I have my vaccines plural, I have
all of them and more, and.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I happily, I happily do not. That's three things need
to know for Thursday, May twenty second Round one whis
Khalifa and Sean Paul were hooking you up six one seven, nine,
three one one five Color twenty five. We're going to
the Xfinity Center on July eighth.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Good luck, Sash and the jam In Morning Show with
d J four and it's saut Morning, Austin's number.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
One for hip hop jam In ninety four. Five. Hi, everybody,
good morning. It's Thursday. We're gonna deal with a little
bit of a nor' easter today, but it's you know,
it's still Memorial Day. A lot of people have off
on Monday, so it's fine. It'll be okay.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
And technically it's just water. It's not snow, so.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
A lot of wind, a lot of rain, and it's
cold out there, but it's fine.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
It could be worse.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Uh, six one seven, nine three one five six one
seven were checking in on you part of the show
where you call us and we talk about anything you want.
Elizabeth fun Factory, Liz. That's my middle name, Ashley Elizabeth.
She's checking in from Bill Ricca. Hi, Liz, good morning,

(36:22):
what's going on?

Speaker 8 (36:24):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I wanted you to explain who is Karen Reid because
I just started listening to the radio again, and do
you seem very passionate about it? And I have no
idea who This is not real, right, No, I swear
to that. So okay, let's you you haven't been listening
to radio? Okay? But do you? Are you on any

(36:45):
social media? Yeah? And all that's taking over right now
is the daty case.

Speaker 8 (36:51):
So I have no idea who Karen Raid is.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
That's fair, okay, because that's also eating my timeline. I was,
I was, I actually didn't think this was real. I'm
full on prepared to tell you who Karen Reid is,
but I feel like Elizabeth, it might be even more
fun if I open up the phone lines and let
people fill you in on who Karen Reid is. I
think we could really dance with this one. Would you
be willing to hold while I give the number and

(37:14):
let and and then we go back and forth with
some people. Let's do it. Oh, this is so exciting,
all right, guys, imagine you meet somebody we'll put Elizabeth
on hold who lives under a literal rock in bill
Ricca and has no idea who Karen Reid is. How
would you explain six one seven nine three one one

(37:35):
nine four five six one seven nine three one one
nine four five who is Karen Reid.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
To get small.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
We're not We're not yelling that name anymore, Biggie, that's
not cool anymore. All right, six one seven nine three
one one nine four five. We're doing We're we're helping
people out. This is a show of health and wealth people.
Let's go to Elizabeth again real quick and Bill Ricca. Liz, honestly,
I could tell you that Karen Reid was Santi's wife

(38:09):
in Hollis right now, because that's how little you know
about her. You you just got back to listening to
the radio. You keep hearing me say this name Karen Reid,
and you're like, who is this? Who is she? Yeah?
All I got is that she hits himone with a
car and he had a TBI and had raccoon. I
that's all I learned today. Wow, okay, Wow, this is fresh.

(38:31):
All right, Liz, Well, you know what, we have a
lot of people who want to do some some service here.
Hang on, uh, let's go to te Asia first in
Fall River. Hi, girlfriend, good morning, good morning. So listen Taysha.
Yeah that was I mean, yeah, Santi took a call,
so you can only imagine what I was. We're lucky
that I said what I said, I could have been

(38:52):
setting sat Monica for the way it was spelled. All right,
So let's start with this. You meet somebody named Eliza,
she's from bill Ricca. And she tells you I don't
know who Karen Reid is. Now, I know you're astonished,
and you're like, can you hear me? Yes, I can
hear you. Fall we gotta let her go. We have

(39:15):
a million people on hold. Unfortunately we can't hear you.
Melanie is in the South Shore. Mel I mean, it's
hard to imagine. At this point. You come across somebody
I pretty much say, I'll see somebody Melan be like, hey,
how are you do you think Karen did it? Like
that's it's pretty much part of my vernacular now. But
for some people, I guess they don't know who she is.
You meet someone like that named Elizabeth, how are you

(39:37):
explaining who Karen Reid is?

Speaker 8 (39:40):
Well, first off, I think it's really hard to believe
that no one knows much about Karen Reid because you've
been on trial now twice. This has gone on for
I think like what three four years now. But the
sad thing about this whole thing is that we truly
probably will never know what happened that night, But from
what everybody's said, thing is that she either backed up

(40:03):
into her boyfriend or he got beat up inside the
house and they dragged him outside and he died in
the snow. But again, like I said, the sad thing
about is that John O'Keefe is dead and we'll probably
really never know the truth about what happened that night.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
It's very true, Melanie, thank you for the call. That
was very serious. Jennifer is in Weymouth, hijen, Hey, how
are you break it down for us? Who's Karen Reid.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
She's a woman that's being accused of killing her husband
who was a former police officer. It was a police officer. Honestly,
I don't think she did it because I just learned
from my friend yesterday that the first week she had
got arrested, they cut the rugs out of her house,
killed her dogs, buried him in the backyard, and like

(40:53):
evidence out of the house or something. Yeah. Yeah, wow,
I think she's inning now because it looks good in
her in her when I've been hearing.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
This is news to my ears, killed her dog?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
You should they should put.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
You on the stands that they killed her two dogs
and buried him in the backyard.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
She had Wow, Chloe had a friend, Jen.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Thank you so much, cut rugs out of her house,
does something. So maybe it's a conspiracy with the cops.
You never know.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
This is this is, to be honest, the greatest thing
I've ever heard, Jennifer, thank you for that. Jenny is
in Boston. Jen, for the love of God, help Elizabeth
because right now she thinks Karen Reid is a woman
who had a husband, who never had a husband, who
had two dogs that are buried in her backyard, and
she cut up her own rug in her home. Can
you help?

Speaker 4 (41:39):
It's actually my son that wants to tell everyone, not me.

Speaker 8 (41:42):
So we listen to you every morning, and he's gonna
tell you right now, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (41:47):
Everybody knows who care is that's on She's a person
that's on trial for backing in her car into Donald Keith,
and she's being a cue for her time.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Ten years old and even you know now, as a
ten year old, I'm not gonna ask you because you're
only ten, what does your mommy think? Does mommy think
that Karen read back that car into John O'Keefe.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Yeah, oh, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (42:16):
I don't know anymore.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I don't know, I know, I know. All right, Hey,
Jenny and your ten year old son, thank you so much.
Let's go back to Elizabeth. Elizabeth, I'm gonna be honest
with you. You probably still don't know who Karen Reid
is because that was there was a lot of misinformation there.
But I think an idea, okay, you have a little
bit better of an idea. I would say the best
I could do is give you that Karen Reid was
put on trial for potentially backing in to her boyfriend

(42:41):
at the time, John o'keeff, after a night out of
drinking where she was insanely drunk. She got home, she
woke up in the morning, she realized he wasn't home.
She you know, made a couple of calls, may have said,
I hit him, I hit him, My hit him. They
pull up to the home in which she dropped him off,
and they find him dead on the front lawn. Now

(43:02):
fast forward, she has her trial. It ends in a mistrial.
We're dealing with a retrial. Now she is back in court,
same charges and essentially the defense for Karen Reid to
saying no, no, no, no, no, No, No, she didn't back into him.
He in fact went in that home, got into some
sort of altercation, and he was brought back out to
the front lawns. The best I can do for you

(43:22):
in a short amount of time.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Oh, she definitely hit her.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Okay, okay, and well there you have it. Really well, listen,
that's why this thing is so hot, Liz, because people
are really back and forth on it. They all, yeah,
all right, so you're leaning that way. Well, let me
tell you this. You got off from court today, tomorrow
and Monday, but we'll be back talking about it on Tuesday. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (43:46):
And just for the record, I do work from home,
so I know nothing.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Wow, yeah, because you know, and you know what this
I didn't believe in my head that there were people
like you that existed. No, No, it's real. And you
know what that's that's good for a jury, a jury sense,
because I'm like, how are they finding There's just no way.
So you work from home. Your algo is more diddy
stuff than Karen Reid. Now, you know, because we've spoken
about this, the phone heard you, and your algo is

(44:12):
going to change. You'll start seeing a lot more Karen
Reid things. I'll be anxious to see if next week
you still think that she hit him. I'm assuming you
think she hit him, right. I go back and forth.
Some days I do and some days I do not.
Some days I think it's this massive cover up because
I mean, again, I have a lot of time, but
a lot of police were involved. One police, one police

(44:32):
officer specifically that was on this case got fired because
he was calling her crazy names and text messages. It's
a lot, Lizzie, you got to look at this up.
You got to look it up. Actually, if you don't
have any plans this weekend, I suggest watching a documentary
called Body in the Snow. Oh that'll get you caught
up right, all right, Thank you so much, Thank you

(44:54):
so much for the call. That is such a prime
example though, of what it's like living in Newing with this.
I mean, the woman said, my friend told me that
Karen killed her two dogs, buried them in her backyard,
and somebody caught up the carpet in her home. So
Karen now owns quote it's nuts.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But in her head that's not it. It was definitive,
that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I've had conversations with my friends where they they there's
attitude like they can't wrap their mind around the fact
that people think the other side.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
It's like, I also think that people have their own
theories of what happened like that that night, and they're
all different, but they are owning their own thing. And
it's some elaborate things out there too, which it's probably
not that elaborate.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yes, and obviously remiss of me not to say during
all this because we're having a little giggle like the jurors,
but you know, it's still awful. And yet because we're
talking about this because a man was found dead on
the front law who should have lived a long life
and been a father figure to these kids who don't
have him anymore. I see Peggy inside the courtroom, johna
Keep's mother having to deal with this. This wound just

(45:59):
stays over open, over and over and over again. It's
just it is what we will never know. We will
never know what happened to John O'Keefe. But what we
also will never know is what happened to those two
dogs that were killed and buried in her backyard. Nobody
needs to get on that. Hi, everybody, Good morning, It's
Ashley and the Jam of Morning Show. I think the
biggest revelation from that check in right there is that

(46:23):
there are human beings that exist in New England that
do not know who Karen Reid.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Is, which I guess I understand, but I would at
the very least think that people in your circle would
be talking about her.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Okay, I'm low key jealous. It's taking over my life, Santi,
it's taken over my lif My daughter has said the
words Jen McCabe.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Okay, why it's sad.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
It's sad. I got a DM this morning. The woman's
handle is weed is not a drug. Okay, she goes.
I gotta be honest and tell you that I've never
heard of Karen Reid before listening to you in the morning.
I put girl with like a bunch of crying, laughing faces.
Somebody wrought me back and goes, she's definitely amish. Yeah, like, wow,
you know we were talking about this af air. It's like,

(47:09):
you may not know the particulars of it, but you've
seen her face. I mean you some but but but again,
she worked from home. Her balgo is different. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Fine, but does she not turn on the news? So
maybe she doesn't, But again, you would have at least seen
her picture someplace.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
I don't turn the news on. I turned the TV
on her Nastia and Miss Rachel.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
But you don't consume news at all on my phone.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
That's okay, But my algo is okay.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
She works from home, so assuming she's on a computer
like all day, she doesn't go on HGH dot com
or see on tv B and see her picture plastd
like everywhere.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Maybe she saw her photo and she was she was like,
this girl has resting bitch face. I'm moving on. I
don't tell yeah, because remember when we had a lady
call in and say that Karen Reid has kill her
face Like it's just you know, I don't know what
people think my algos, I talked about this the other day,
messed up. It's like Karen Reid, Diddy and dead people.
I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Your go is confused. Mine's just twisted.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
My algo needs saving, like actual saving. But if you
missed any of that, definitely catch up via the podcast
because that was Wow. It's just so interesting when you
throw it out there to people and you let them
decide on who Karen Reid is, and like we were
getting detailed, complete made up things right there, just complete
made up things.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
But you and I were talking about this. With this case,
people have such staunch feelings about it that they don't
want to hear like another side, And it was interesting
to hear people's perspective on it, especially the woman that
just like made up stock.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Where did the second dog come from? I had no
idea that Chloe had a friend. Have you missed any
of that? Catch up via the podcast down the free
iHeartRadio app search ashl w and adis as a preset.
Good morning, everybody,