Shower Queen pt. 1

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wait, Joe, wake up, wake up?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh man, Thursday. First thing I do every morning when
I awake is look at the weather on Saturday in Marshfield, Massachusetts,
and you know, listen, ideal for the rain now, son,
because it's got like a rain shower from six to

(00:32):
seven am. No rain the rest of the day. High
of sixty two, which I mean, listen, it's not that bad.
Like it's gonna feel as if you're in someone's house
in the summer they got the ACM blast, you know,
wear jeans. I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I guess it's not ideal for what you were looking
for for a party, but at least it's not like
a torrential down downpour in the middle of the party.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I will take any temp outside and no rain, you
know what I mean, no rain during two to five.
It can be whatever temp I I'm I will throw
a jacket on over my dress, like you can figure
out your outfits and change things up last minute. It's
what I'm telling myself to calm it down. But yeah,
the early morning rain and nothing in the afternoon is huge.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Now what time the party starts at two o'clock?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, okay, which by the way is good for tempts
because that's going to be like the chunk of the
day right there. So it does It all depends on
the app you're on. Yeah, but on some of the
apps it says pockets shut of Sunshine, give me give
me a pocket from two to five? Will you?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Are you the type of host specifically for this party
that wants people more outside than inside, because I've been
at parties where like you aren't really allowed like in
like inside the house, don't want them in at all.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I know that I'm going to be giving tours to
people because this is the first birthday slash housewarming, so
they can come in to like get the house door
get out.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
So it's an outdoor party.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
It's an outdoor party. Oh yeah, so like sixty two degrees,
the AC's on, but it's an outdoor party.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
So how are you going to police that people start
tricklating like trickling, trickling, like yeah, trick relating inside.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm not going to police it, but I I all
the tables and chairs will be I can't fit that
many people in my house. So it's like I don't
know where you're I also don't know what kind of
host I am because this is my first host. Yeah,
this is my first time doing all of this. But
I can tell you right now I don't want these
mother efforts in my house.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, but it's also tough to police that. But I think,
like I picture you being more of a social host,
where you're going around to different people exactly talking.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I want to talk, I want to drink, I want
to mingle. I want the music to be playing. The
kids are going to be in the bounce South, Like
sixty two degrees for the kids is great, They'll still
be sweaty, they're not going to care.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
So who's going to be managing the party?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Then someone has to do that.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I think somebody kind of does because then you're like
trying to time out the air, like all the food
and stuff. I know you're getting catered, right.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
The food is going to be dropped off right at
the start of the party, and then it's.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah, but then you kind of have to go back
and forth and you're letting people know.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
The trash can. No one's going I don't even have
them going through the front door. I have a path
leading to the back set up. People will go through it,
we know, but I'm saying, like, I don't think I
don't have to greet. There's a there's a path that
told the fireman he has to watch the trash cans.
I'm gone, like once still, it's the red bul vakas
are going to start flowing like Mommy's Mommy's bye bye.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
And then your family's going to be there so they
can help out to right, Nanna.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, I'll go take a peak ski because you know me,
I care more about the looks of it to make
sure it's still looking pretty. But anyways, it wasn't been
a late night forer Form was here. He's not speaking.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think his plan was going to stay for a
little bit of the concept. But then that sawesome video
it looked like he was there for a long time,
and uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
He called Sanci's Films STI was like, hold on. I
figured he was gonna be like, let me in, I
forgot my car, but he at five point fifty was like,
I just.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Awoke in Manchester.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
In manch so we know he drives a hundred and
he's had many speed tickets speeding tickets in his life.
So he called you at about I feel like that
was like five fifty. Yep, let's see what time he
gets in.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
He's here, No, he's not.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I was like, oh my god, five point fifty. We're
thinking what like I'm six forty probably six forty.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, I mean it must have been like because he
normally doesn't do this. Usually he'll be out.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
The night of sleeping is crazy. He must be in
straight panic, moll because that that does not happen to us. Really,
let me not go on wood but O, I've like, that's.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
And for our job if we're running later, this happens,
it's very public.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's yeah, like I wasn't even gonna lie in act
like he was here because we're about to do the
news and it gets just stupid. But I'm thinking his
first alarm went off. He was so tired he shut
it off and was like, I'm gonna set another one
for a ten or something and then who knows didn't
go off.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Well, maybe he just got home and just like crash
and passed.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Malcolm. He's Malcolm Butlering.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
We don't know, but I will, we will clock this.
He left Manchet five point fifty. We know he likes
to speed if he's in the outing man might be
here in ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, he actually might.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I really don't know. Anyways, big big, big, big, big
day in det We're on the move people. We'll talk
about it next corning, especially in.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
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Speaker 2 (05:07):
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Speaker 4 (05:09):
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Speaker 1 (05:16):
Five.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I thought it was strong.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Last year's stronger. Yes, we just called more witnesses and
laid out laid out more of the case.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Thursday, June twelfth, and there's cash. She sounds sounds pretty confident.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
She does. But I don't know if this one was stronger.
I think it was lean or last year there was
more reasonable doubt.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Totally trim the fat, Yeah, totally trim the fat. It
was a big day in debt him. Yesterday, the defense
has officially rested timeline wise sign. Here's what we're looking
at today. The jury will hear. I believe like some
rules as to what's going to look like for when
they deliberate. I know for a fact that at ten

(06:00):
am Judge Bev Canoni is gonna meet with the lawyers
for what's called a charge conference where jurors are not present,
and then it's go time Friday, nine am closing arguments.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
And we assume this is not gonna take like all day, right, So.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Jackson is pushing for an hour and a half for
each side for closing arguments. Judge Bev pushed back, and
she said an hour fifteen. However, she said she would
give the request some thought. Remember, she has made it
very clear she believed the jury is quote fed up,
so she's trying to trim that closing argument time as
best as possible. But each side getting in an hour
and a half hour fifteen I think that is reasonable

(06:45):
to me.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
So theoretically we can the jury could have the case
by lunchtime on Friday.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. If they start
on time, if they start right at nine am, hour
fifteen hour and a half hour, you know what I mean.
I think I think lunch. I think before that lunch
break they could have the case in their hands.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Now, I don't think they'll come back with a verdict tomorrow.
I think by Monday or Tuesday at the latest.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Sucks to get it on a Friday.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, you know, which I don't know if it's a
good thing, because if the jury's that fed up and
they just want this thing done done with, I feel
like they're just gonna be like, all right, well, let's
just figure something out here, because I don't want to
do this next week.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Could they, al though, get it at lunchtime, eat a
ham and cheese and then be like not guilty. All
of them agree yes? Or could half of them say
not guilty and half of them say guilty and then
them they're at odds? Yes, absolutely, there is a thousand
different scenarios here.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I will say that this part of the entire case
is the most exciting because like that feeling of waiting
to hear the verdict is like, yeah, building.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
So one more time. I just thin. I just don't
make sure I didn confuse anybody. Today, the lawyers are
meeting at ten with Judge Bev. They're doing a charge conference.
No jurors will be present. I did alls so here
on the news, and I'm not sure about this, but
at some point I do think the jury comes in
and they have a chit chat with Bev. They are

(08:06):
explaining the rules, what it's going to look like the
next day tomorrow, nine am, closing arguments, which is why
Santina I think that there's a chance by lunch the jury,
whoever is selected, has this case in their hands. Oh
my god, yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
They're definitely like by this point they have a feeling
that they're crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
And Erica told us yesterday too, like it's starting to
get packed down there. People are packing the streets. This
is our childhood and this makes me so sad when
I saw this news yesterday. Ananda lewis Son, remember the
iconic MTVVJ died after a very very long, lengthy battle
with breast cancer.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well it's ten am, and you know what that means.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Mail time.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Love that you're writing me real letters, you know, flesh like.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I like the column. This one is from.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Susan Gottschaw from Rainier, Oregon. At the end, you ask
me who are your favorite singing artists? So I want
to answer that because it leaves me right into the video.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm going to play for you.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
First of all, my favorite of all time is Dinah Washington.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
She was a singer back in the forties. If you
look her up.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
And get through her albums, they're incredible.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
She does jazz.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I like everything from Sing to Tuck and Patty to
the artist for only known as Prince to everybody, including
n Wa which I was a teenager rapping in my
little you knowhood in Pan Diego.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Ananda diet just fifty two years old. Her sister posted
on Facebook and said she's free and in his heavenly arms.
Like I said. She had battled with breast cancer. She
died from stage four yesterday at eleven thirty am while
in hospice at her home.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Heartbreaking. Man, she was way too young and she was
a mom, So this one's sad. Yeah again for our childhoods.
She was there like all the time.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Oh her story. I mean she she graduated from Howard,
she became a host of BT series called teen Summit.
Then she moved over to MTV. She led programs like
TRL spring Break. She then got the Aanda Lewis Show,
and even over the course of the last year, so
she talked a lot about her her breast cancer and
how she pushed off going to get her mammograms and

(10:08):
how important it is. I think about that often. I mean,
I'm thirty eight, I'll be thirty nine this year. I mean,
I think I think they say forty right of the
age when you're supposed to start getting them.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
My wife went last week and she's again she talks
about this. It's not it's not pleasant.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I understand, No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
But I think it's so important that people get that
stuff done.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah. By the way, she had a son too. Yeah,
so super sad and like you said, it really does
remind me.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
It's like the spring breaking with her.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Oh do you sprint home to watch tr rel the
spring brea, all of the things? So thoughts in prayers
with her family? All right, Jane Doe up there on
the stand in the Diddy case, I can keep this
one quick. There's really not much for you to know
other than once Denham is done. I almost said once

(10:57):
Dedham is dead, poor Tourse awards right there. I know
that's that's crazy. Once Detam is done, once we wrap
things up with Karen Reid, we had there, There's there's
so much of a circus happening in New York, things
that we're probably missing because we're so concentrated on Karen Reid.
But Jane Doe took the stand yesterday and claims that
Diddy orchestrated role plays during which we know from you know,

(11:20):
the freak offs. Sometimes he would pretend to be Shack
Kobe or Michael Jordan, so.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Like that, What does that entail coming into the room
with like a basketball show play.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
One on one.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
I don't know, but it gives embarrassment to me. It
gives cunny you are tough, daddy, yes, right, like you
are Diddy whatever your name was at that time, and
we're out here pretending to be other grown men, Like
what are you doing? I can understand maybe having a
different profession in the role play, you're a mailman delivering penis,

(11:54):
But for the love of God, your shacked like the Shack.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Did they meet on the basketball then the seduction started there,
I guess the back to the hotel. He really is, No,
he's a sick ow. But I will say this role
playing is nothing even close to like the twist, the
stuff we found out that he liked to do with
like the other men and their deposits, right, Like, I'll

(12:20):
take the role playing, I won't take the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, you're right, i'd actually yeah I can. Yeah. And
by the way, and everyone always every time we talk
about this or we elude people have tough time finding it.
Just look up the transcripts from from the courtroom with
Diddy and you will see that Diddy.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Had How do you even describe it?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I don't want to. That's three things. That is three
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Speaker 6 (12:58):
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Speaker 2 (13:04):
She am in ninety four or five. Hi, everybody, good morning.
I feel like I'm just catching up a little bit
because earlier in the week the documentary called Call Her
Alex on Hulu came out. It's about Alex Cooper, a
founder of Call Her Daddy. Lots of drama with call

(13:26):
Our Daddy in the beginning, and her and Sophia and
the breakup because I used to watch their blogs like
I loved watching them, and then they had their big breakup.
And I feel like we never really got a straightforward
answer as to what happened with the.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Two in that no, but we got a sense that
Sofia and Sophia's boyfriend, who correct me if I'm wrong,
worked for HBO. They wanted more money and Portnoy was like, listen,
we're already paying you enough. Yeah, they were trying to.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Like it was definitely a money situation. And I remember
Portnoy being like, Alex did all the legwork, like she
did all the editing, she did all everything. I remember
seeing an interview with him, and this is actually in
the documentary where he was like blown away at how
much Alex did, like she did everything. And then I
watched the first episode of her documentary that's on again

(14:13):
Hulu right now. It's called Call Her Alex. And she
was doing computer stuff when she was like ten years old.
She was doing editing. She had a green screen at
her house, Like this was just what she was into.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
She liked to do it so clearly she saw what
was coming down the pathway like early.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
On, I think it evolved. I think it got there
that she wanted. She said. She remembers the conversation of
her dad saying you should just start a podcast, and
she was like, what, like podcasts are for old people
that like radio, Like that's what she thought back in
the day and then she did it and she it
was described as in this doc and it was Portnoy

(14:48):
who said it. He goes, you know, at Barstool, we
we were like locker room talk, Like that's that's how
we wrote our articles. It was locker room talk. And
he's like, and when I first heard Call Her Daddy
the first episode, I was like, this is the female version,
this is what females talk about in the locker room.
And so he brought them on and he said their
first contract was like a three year deal for seventy

(15:08):
k or something like that. And now to know what
Alex Cooper is worth.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
It's just yeah, I think she signed with Spotify for
like some like sixty million dollars. But even if you
go back to the seventy thousand dollars a year, that's
still a great, great living to do a podcast, right.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh for sure. But and even back then this was
year's news. You said that was probably a pretty good
salary in comparison. I mean, it is a good salary,
but in comparison to what you know, the world is
now things have changed. But the big story around here
is about her soccer coach, Nancy Feldman. Oh, over therapy.

(15:44):
You I know the guys VA Well. I want to
start out by saying there's no relation, because I've gotten
it sent to me a couple of times, being like,
is this Nancy? Is this ant Nanci? No, I got
no relation to nance. But in the doc, Alex talks
about being sexually harassed by her coach. Now listen, she

(16:06):
was a soccer standout soccer star, went to be you
on a full ride, played for three years, didn't play
her senior year. Now we know what.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
My sophomore year, everything really shifted. I started to notice
her really starting to fixate on me way more than
any other teammate of mine. And it was confusing because

(16:35):
the focus wasn't like you're doing so well, let's get
you on the field. You're going to be a starter.
It was all based in her wanting to know who
I was dating. One morning, my coach found out that
I got dropped off on campus by a guy I
was seeing, and she called for a private meeting between us.

(16:56):
She asks me, did you have sex last night?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
And I'm like, I'm sorry. What she talks about? How
you know she would have to have meetings with her
where they would sit on the couch, she would put
her hand on her thigh. The craziest part about it
to me was that she details how her best friend
on the team, Gott was also her roommate. Coach Nancy

(17:24):
Felman kicks this girl off the team, gives her no rhyme,
no reasoning, says you're gone. An hour later, calls Alex
into the office and goes, see what I just did?
That could be you see how I just kicked your
friend off the team. I can do it to you
and you will no longer live with her. You're gonna
get a roommate of my choice. Essentially use that girl

(17:45):
to get Alex. To scare Alex like crazy stuff. Mind you,
I was doing some research this morning. Nancy Felman was
working at BEU up until twenty twenty two, like she
only recently retired. Alex and her family went and sat.

Speaker 8 (17:59):
With the.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
At BU told them everything, this is what's going on.
My daughter's being actually harassed. This has been happening. Like
here's you know, I have proof.

Speaker 9 (18:10):
Mom.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Every time Alex would call home, Mom would write down
a journal, just make up a date. March second, two
thousand and one, coach said this to Alex. Alex calls
me crying. Whatever it was. They basically were like, we're
not firing her, so what do you want to do.
She's like, I can't play for her anymore. So she
ended up her senior year at BU not playing but
still getting her full ride.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Doesn't that say something right that they let her keep that?
That that says they probably know that this was that
she was kind of guilty. The other part about this,
it sounds like she was grooming her. It sounds like
you're talking about a predator.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah. And I guess like when they would watch film,
it wasn't like, oh, look at that, like that was
an amazing goal. It was ooh, look in front of everyone,
look at Alex's legs in that. Look how her jersey
fits her in that weird weird stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
And here's the thing, Like, you and I both played
sports in college. I think what we what I realized
is that it's different because stuff like this does happen.
But I'm not saying it's more acceptable. I'm saying it's
you look the outther way because now you're dealing with
adult And listen, I played on teams where they have
been assistant coaches hooking up with students and that like
across is like a ligne but not saying that it's accepted.

(19:16):
But because they're both adults, it's kind of like.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I don't know if you remember, but it happened at
Northeastern recently. There was a track coach who was like
just taking the girls phones and supposed to be, you know,
filming them run and he was sending himself nudes from them,
like under a guys on Instagram, asking them for messages like,
it's just it happens.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
It does now. Unfortunately what happened sometimes in colleges, the
colleges are so invested in these coaches that they look
the other way. Yeah, they don't punish them, they don't
fire them.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I had a little bit of a weird situation when
I was getting recruited. There was a coach who was
like just not appropriate questions that you would think in
a recruiting process. Yeah, and listen. I think what stood
out to me the most about this doc is I
feel like I really can relate to athletes. If you
played a sport in college, you have this like unspoken

(20:05):
bond with other people that have you know, you kind
of carry yourself a lot of like you understand like
a team sport and how to be a team player
and what that looks like, even if you have someone
on your team who's maybe like a poisonous person to
the team, like how to kind of work through that.
And she talked a little bit about how once you
don't play anymore, you kind of lose your identity, and

(20:28):
that was something that I really struggled with because I've
said it on the show before. To me, it was
like that orange ball was like who I was. I
didn't know what an Astley away from basketball was. And
I remember being so afraid of that time because who
was I without basketball? I don't know. I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
I guess for me too, it's like you find your
core group of people when you're in college. It's usually
like just your teammates if you played the sport. And
I think like I just went back to playing baseball
because I was missing that the camarade so much misplaying
the game like I obviously do, but the being on
a team on the bench with all the guys, that's
what's so important. And to kind of know that that

(21:11):
coach took that away from her because clearly she was
sexually attracted to her, it's crazy, No, it's and the
fact that the college let her get away with it.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
It makes me sick to my stomach because she went
back to be You after her podcast or her tour
that she did, and she started bawling crying because she's
like that that's her memory of it, and it's like,
I would do anything to have a day back with
my teammates. And even when I'm with my teammates again,
we're telling the same stories on repeat, crying, laughing, just

(21:39):
the best of times. I couldn't imagine it being any
other way. So it's it's sad that this woman tarnished it. Also,
Alex came out and said, the main reason she's talking
about this now is a recent soccer player of BEU
like in the last few years also went through this
with this with this woman with not my aunt Nancy Feldt.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
And I guess you're gonna start to realize it was
probably a pattern. And now I tell my kids just
like all the time I go. As a kid, you
look to up to adults and you think that they
have their lives together and they're the authority and all
that stuff. As you age and you become an adult,
you realize that some people are just as broken. Some
people are predators and all that stuff, so just beware
them across the board. And in college, this is supposed

(22:21):
to be your mentor your coach, the person that you
confide in with all these things. Yeah, to know that
there are people out there like that.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
And we're raised to be respectful. And she talks about that,
you know, She's like to me that this was my life.
I was too. I didn't want to lose this. I
didn't want to not be playing soccer, so I was
just doing what I was told, Like this was my coach,
this is you know. Yeah, And I've been fortunate and
I know you have to to just have had like

(22:48):
the best coaches around me. I mean every coach that
I've played for has a trait that I love and
I've never you know.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, like sports taught me so much. Like listen, you
have situations where you don't agree with everybody on the
team and even your coaches and all stuff, and they
teach you to deal with this in life too, Like
you can have bosses, teammates and awestoff that you need
to learn to work with them.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, and you know what else is crazy too. She
says that part of the reason she went to be
You is because it was a female coach and she
felt comfortable, Like she felt comfortable because it was a
female and a male and the like. Yeah, it isn't
like creeps come in all shapes and size, all shapes
and size. They could be like brown and bald. Zero

(23:31):
relation to Nancy Fellerman as do I is not my aunt?

Speaker 3 (23:37):
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more five.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
I thought it was strong last year hits it's stronger. Yes,
we just called more witnesses and laid out, laid out
more of the case.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Car sounds strong. She sounds like she's feeling good. Thursday,
June twelfth, Let's walk through timeline because guys, isn't mirrored?
Does my mic sound weird right now?

Speaker 3 (24:08):
I don't notice it.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
It sounds different than it did the last break. Something
is off, something is different. Everything's fine, but it's something
feels different in the mind. It has to be whatever
Tony's doing to the computer, because something is I'm getting
like a weird echo something.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Is I'll check on when he comes back.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Okay, that just threw me off. So anyways, defense rested
yesterday in Denham, which is massive. The timeline of what
we're going to see over the next few days. Who
we are cooking people? Today at ten am, Bev is
going to meet with the lawyers on both sides. They're
going to have what's called a charge conference with no

(24:45):
jurors present, and then tomorrow nine am baby closing statements.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
We'll have a verdict by Monday.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Closing arguments could last either an hour and a half
or an hour and fifteen. Is shooting for an hour
and a half. That's what he wants. Judge Bev, you know,
rebuttled with an hour fifteen, but she did say she
would give his request some thought. I'm sure we might
get an answer on that today either an hour and
a half, an hour and fifteen minutes, whatever it turns
out to be. Yes, I think peanut butter, jelly, ham

(25:17):
and cheese sandwich. Whatever you're into, and boom, jury has
the case.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, you start the conversation on Friday, you take it
home and think about it and just confirm what you feel.
By Monday morning. What's fifteen minutes?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I mean a lot if you're somebody who's you know,
defending someone that's fighting for your life on fifteen an extra.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
Kid, Yeah, give him the extra fifteen? Why we like fifty?
He's not asking for two?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Oh, I thought you were saying that. It wasn't like, yeah, like,
what's one an hour of fifteen?

Speaker 9 (25:42):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (25:42):
I think I'm guessing, but I think this is her
way of being like they're fed up, I'm trying to
trim the fat here or whatever. But yeah, if you
cut off a whole thirty okay, now we're cruising, mind you.
I guess last year they only did have an hour,
and so daddy Al's asking for a little bit more time.
Maybe listen, I could we technically, yes, we could get

(26:06):
a verdict on Friday. Technically if they all go in
there and they're like, hey, not guilty, not get it
or hey guilty guilt me, it's everyone's in agreement. See
it later, boom by.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I still can't believe that we're back here. We're back
back here once again.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
But even if you hear Karen and that she's like
last year, I felt because we're doing this again like
it's it's really crazy. So we'll say we will see
what happens. We'll learn more today whether you know hour
and half hour, fifteen, whatever that's gonna look like. And
tomorrow nine am. Game. It's gonna be tough to do
the show at nine o'clock tomorrow because I'm gonna be stressed,

(26:39):
like my heart's gonna be beaten, but to my chest.
All right, some horrible, horrible news. And I think if
you're our age, this one hits even more because the
iconic MTV VJ Ananda Lewis has passed away with her
very lengthy battle with breast cancer. Her sister wrote on
Facebook She's free and in his heavenly arms word rest

(27:00):
her soul. We know she died from stage four cancer
at the age of only fifty two years old.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Well it's ten am, and you know what that means.
Male time, love that you're writing me real letters, you know,
flesh like I like to column. This one is from
Susan Gottschall from Rainier, Oregon. At the end, you ask
me who are your favorite singing artists? So I want
to answer that because it leads me right into the video.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
I'm going to play for you.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
First of all, my favorite of all time is Dinah Washington.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
She was a singer back in the forties.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
If you look her up and get some of her albums,
they're incredible. She does jazz, I like everything from sing
to Tech and Patty to the artists only known as
Prince to everybody, including n Wa, which I was a
teenager rapping in my little you knowhood in Fan Diego.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Anana was my legit childhood Trol, spring Break, Nanda Lewis
show so many things she actually guys. Published an essay
in January of this year saying, quote prevention is the
real cure for cancer, because she was very vocal about
the fact that you know her would go and do
her routine breast exams and yet still got breast cancer.

(28:04):
So she kind of felt like she didn't have to,
like it was a waste of time. And she feels
like Hatch gone sooner, maybe some things would have changed,
so obviously thoughts in prayers to her family. She survived
by her son, Langston, who she welcomed in twenty eleven.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
I think she said it best get your mammy's done.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, dude, I'm going to I think you're supposed to
start doing them at forty. I'm going to be in there.
They flat. It's not comfortable.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, like a pancake.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I've never done it, but you you get into a
machine and they literally take them and they flatten them
to a pancake. I didn't know that could actually happen
me neither, because I'm pushing right now.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I don't. But the strength of a machine obviously can
be a little different. But yeah, I've heard it's not comfortable,
but it's necessary.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I could now give it a world.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I don't give it a whirl. He's clapping. We do
not give mammograms here in the studio, so don't don't
come look at that.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
He got syrup in his hand.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Right. Colleen performing at World Pride DC and having himself
a little moment on stage. Guys, it was his first
ever Pride event.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
This is my first time performing at Pride.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
This is my first time being that cry before I continued,
I'm gonna thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
So much for supporting me against the world.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
To me, it makes me so happy. I feel like
I'm home here on the stage.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Oh, he said, these are happy tears. I'm not, you know,
so he's just I think he fell home, he felt
he felt accepted.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
And is he single? I forget I thought he was
dating somebody a few there.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Was a lot of drama. I think we saw text
messages between the two or something like that. I remember
us talking about.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
That this is the person who actually outed him. That's
what it was. The outed him and then he had
to come out of say you know, basically whatever you
had to. But it wasn't a big deal. He's he's
still a beast and yeah, twenty seven years old.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Fourn and I we will not out you whenever. We won't.
We won't when you are ready. We are here. This
is not our story.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
To tell right and open.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
This is your story to.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Help our people now. And they're just they're like, wow,
he is day.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yes, we knew it. And those people are me and
foreign the street. Things he needs to know for Thursday,
June twelfth. Russ and Big Sean are going to be
at the Comunity Center on July eighteenth, and so will
you six one seven nine, three one one nine four
five colors twenty five or hoo can you own you too?

Speaker 8 (30:45):
Six?

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Next up with Ashley and The jam In Morning Show
with DJ Floran and.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Sandy shout out to Rach in manch She is going
to Russ and Big Sean. That's the positive for her.
Look at your screen and tell everybody what it's the
negative for her.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Well, there's two. One she lives in Manchester. The second
one she's going to work in Lynn. Tough, go tough,
go tough day man.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
You know what I can't like the match thing I
can If somebody asks me about Match, all I can
give is what my friend Forren gives me, which is
I'm like, it's not good as for Lynn. I don't know,
we don't. Forren has doesn't talk about Lynn the way
you do.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Not that, not at all. Lynn is not a nice
all right. I'm trying to think of the most positive
thing I can about the city of Lynn.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
One positive thing about Lynn.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
It has the community that runs to the middle of it,
so if you want to go to Boston you can
hop on there.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Oh that's awesome convenience.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
It has a community college. All right, fine, Um, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Don't hurt yourself.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
It's got a road so you can drive food as
fast as possible.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
And actually we have had people from Lynn collin and
say there's a lot of potholes.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
We really and don't forget it has the second worst
beach in America the world shut down ninety percent of
the summer. You or says that facts, that's fact.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
That's Kings Beach.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Kings Beach one summer was shut down for ninety percent
of the summer.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Doesn't sound fun to me.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
It's not the water, my god.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
So anyways, Rach, sorry we had to do that to you,
but congratulations. Anyway, I will do it again at eight
twenty tickets to go see Russ and Big Sean. In
the meantime, what is up? How are we what's going on?
Defense is resting today, Our defense is rested. We're moving
on closing arguments, Tomorrew, I can talk Aboutkaren Reid, you
can talk about yourself. You can call us and say hi,
anything you want, whatever is going on in your world,

(32:35):
will do it right here. Six one seven nine three
one one nine four five six one seven nine three
one one nine four five. By the way, I don't
say this a lot, but if you can't call right now,
you can always leave a talk back to on the app.
But we are going to do the check in talking
about your life, your world, anything you want. Six one, seven, nine,
three one one nine four five call us, It's.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Check Check Sash and the jam In Morning Show with
DJ Foreurn.

Speaker 9 (33:02):
It's Sauty Morning.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Cousin's number one for hip hop. He am in ninety
four five. Hi everybody, good morning. We're doing the checking
right here, so we're gonna talk about you, your life,
your world, anything you want, whatever's on your mind. Six
one seven, nine three one one nine four five six
one seven nine three one one nine four five bets.

(33:26):
My girl Betsy is in Providence and wants to show
some love to DJ Forn. Hi, Betsy, good morning.

Speaker 9 (33:33):
Good morning. How are you guys?

Speaker 2 (33:35):
We're good. So tell everybody what Foreren did for your
family last night?

Speaker 10 (33:40):
All right, so well, so Foreurn hooked my daughter and
her boyfriend up to see the Weekend and play Boy
Cardi And this was like the dream like come true
for her, and she she was crying, literally crying before
when she got out of school, like, ma, I.

Speaker 8 (34:00):
Asked you to get the tickets.

Speaker 9 (34:02):
Now I'm not going all.

Speaker 10 (34:02):
My friends and going. I said, this is why I
tell you to get a job. You old enough, like
I'm gonna teach you a lesson, honey, right, But I couldn't.
I couldn't bear it, and I was like, I gotta
do something. Let me figure this out. So I heard
Pop saying that that Coorn was gonna be at Splitsville

(34:24):
giving away tickets, and I'm like, Kiara, let's do this,
just just go.

Speaker 9 (34:28):
And she's like, e't got nobody for the train.

Speaker 10 (34:30):
So we call my son, who sent her in an uber,
her and her boyfriend to go when the tickets. So
they went there broke.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Okay, it had zero dollars. Yeah, were calling around forever.
We don't even know how they got home, Betsy, but
they made it.

Speaker 10 (34:44):
Listen, he he paid, Hey, he had his mother pay
the uber. So we got two broke best friends going
up there to try to win these tickets. So what
I did was I first I text I messaged foreign
on Instagram. I didn't get an answer, so then I
was like, you know what, I can't wait. I've seen
the call icon. I said, oh, I never called nobody either.

(35:05):
Let me try and see called no answer, called again,
no answer. But then he texted me right back and
told me, yeah, just tell him come and try and
see if they can win. Give it a shot, so
I told her just go.

Speaker 8 (35:15):
She went, got no uber.

Speaker 10 (35:17):
They went and they got the tickets and she's just
my thank you.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Solf oh my before remember that.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yes, of course, of course they were there.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
They were there from probably even before full and they
hung out all the way till seven because that's about
the time that we gave away tickets. But you're right, Betsy,
I'm never literally yes, got a call on Instagram. Even
the ring tone was different and I was like.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Damn And so if they had zero dollars, they had
to hang at Splitsville and not even eat.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
They were just chilling, just waiting.

Speaker 10 (35:46):
For four literally literally, my cash app is my cash
app is messed up. So I was like, you know,
I can't even send you and ask your brother. So
I don't know if she got through it on him
or not, but he's the one that sent them. And
I told her this is why you need job. This
is want need to job things like this, you want
to have fun. But it all worked out in the end,
Thank you, DJ Farren.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
They're both so happy.

Speaker 10 (36:08):
I'm happy for them.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
They cool, the cool Bobby, your daughter's dope, congratulations to you.
And the boyfriend is also a gentleman, so he made
sure that she was straight.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
And I love that.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
All right, Bets, thank you for calling and telling us that.

Speaker 9 (36:23):
All right, have a good one, guy.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
I'm gonna get back.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I was gonna wait for you to hang up with you,
but I was gonna say the same thing.

Speaker 8 (36:31):
Nobody.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
No one call us on Instagram like, by the way,
have you guys ever accidentally hit that button? My butthole shrinks.
So it gets so tight because I get so nervous
that someone's gonna actually answer and be like, hey, did
you call me? I've done it a couple of times.
It's very strange. Bubba is in Maldon, Bubs.

Speaker 8 (36:53):
Looking so for it tells me that.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I hurt your heart.

Speaker 8 (36:59):
Oh no, you the whole hip hop community, the record.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
What did I What did I do this? Too?

Speaker 8 (37:06):
Well? You were describing the new the new Wu Tang
joint that was coming out, and you had not an
idea what shoulin mento?

Speaker 9 (37:14):
You couldn't pronounce it, no idea.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Thirty six Chambers zero none. I do think I might
have been a little bit too young, Bubba. I mean
I was born in eighty six. I think the video
game came. The video game came out in like ninety
I would have been.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Four, and their first album came out in ninety four.
So yeah, you're way too young.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, a little young, but that's okay. That's my bad
son to help me out. I don't know what's happening,
all right, So anyways, but yeah, no, I think I was.
I was obviously you know what's crazy. I remember watching
the doc now it's like a it was a TV
It was a show series about the Wu Tang claim

(37:52):
I love. I loved watching it.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
I think yes, it was on effects. It wasn't it.
I think it was. Yeah, yeah, that was done so well.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I loved watching that.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
That was really good.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
But I was, I was a babes.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I was.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
I was young Shoulin Shall.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, Chambers odb method man, it's back to.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Dak Yeah sorry sorry Bubba. By the way, we call
my brother Bubba. So I was like, this is who
is this? All right? Listen, anything you want, call us,
tell us a story, ask us for advice, just say
what's up? Anything you want? Whatever about on your world?
Six one seven nine three one one nine four five.
That is six one seven nine three one one nine

(38:29):
four five Bricey and Wilmington. Don't go anywhere. We'll get
to you next. Good morning. It's actually in the jam
Warning Show. Hi, everybody, good morning, it's Ashley in the
jam In Morning Show. We're checking in on you.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
What's going on on talkback first?

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Or Brycey Bricey first?

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Brycey is in Wilmington. We're uh, we're checking in. It's
a big week. Go ahead, yell it from the rooftops.

Speaker 8 (38:50):
Hello, Hello, Hello, how are you free? Karen Read?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Free, Karen Read. I really don't believe she did it.

Speaker 8 (38:59):
I really don't belie if there is no evidence of
her backing that car into John O'Keefe, I really don't
believe she did it.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
So the broken tail light does nothing for you.

Speaker 8 (39:11):
No, No, I think she just hit another car backing out.
But there's no bruising on him that shows that he
got hit.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
When you got when you were hit by a vehicle,
where you no bruising on you.

Speaker 8 (39:29):
There's definitely bruising.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Oh well, I'm glad to hear you survive the accident.
I would I would argue that there's there's there's evidence
to support both claims. But either way, I think there's
enough reasonable doubt that she should get off. I mean
I think I think that the defense was able to prove.

Speaker 8 (39:51):
The expert said the expert. I feel like the expert
had a lot to say and like there was no
proof of her backing in to him.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Which expert.

Speaker 8 (40:04):
The last expert. We just watched the the the guy,
the the experts, the car.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Expert, the two guys from I'm assuming you you think
the crash daddy doctor Wolf expert.

Speaker 8 (40:21):
Yes that's Wolf.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (40:24):
I listened to him and I hear what he had
to say yesterday, and yeah, I really don't see it. Okay,
I say free Karen Reid.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
All right, beb well, thank you so much for that.
I mean, listen, we're getting close today ten am. Both
sides are going to meet and then ask.

Speaker 8 (40:43):
I'm watching all day.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
All right, well there's not much you see today, but
tomorrow is going to be the day. Tomorrow nine a m.
Closing arguments. Thank you so much for the call. All right,
be f k rs. They are, they are out and about.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
I wouldn't say there's no evid dance. I would say
this is clearly like evidence that sweeze you in either direction.
But it depends on reasonable doubt and all stuff. You
want to believe the evidence.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, and doctor Wolfe wasn't on the stand yesterday. They
were wrapping up with I can't think of the guy's name.
Let me do this ARCA experts. What was the guy's
name yesterday? Because it was it was Wrenchler is not
as good looking as wolf No, you know, and that's
a tough imagine. They both work for ARCA and one

(41:28):
is nicknamed the crash Daddy and then the other ones
just by his real name, Wrenchler. It's fine, though. Honestly,
Wrenchler gave me vibes that he really like. He was
a little more believable to me. Was the crash Daddy?

Speaker 3 (41:40):
I don't know he was.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
He kind of gave it back to to Hanky a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Yeah, but crash Daddy. You can't beat the name, though,
No you.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Can't, he said. Listen, he's easy on the ice.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
He actually gives me the opposite of spank bibes. He
gives me like vanilla vibes. Anyway, let's go to the
talk back.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Good morning, Jaimen. I just want to say it's true
with Florence says, when it was mother's Day.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
You guys were talking about Mother's Day since Monday.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
It's already Thursday.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
You guys haven't even.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Mentioned Father's Day at all. And another note, what are
you gonna get your husband Ashley.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
A little weights that go around his ankle so he
could go jogging?

Speaker 1 (42:20):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Not a bad idea. It's not a bad idea. And
you know what, that's my bad. That's true. We really
like Sunday.

Speaker 6 (42:28):
You're not alone listening. Mother's Day comes around, we start
hearing about it out on in December. Sometime they start commercials, Oh,
we haven't seen a father one. They started just today.
Today was the first time on this radio station that
I think I heard of Father's Day. Oh, Father's Days
on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
No, I've seen in the stores, like the pop ups
like for Father's Day, I've seen you know what, I'm no,
you're right, drop it the week of you're right, No
Mother's Day, Oh yeah, three months worth of commerce? I agree, No,
I do.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
And then the Father's Day messaging is all like get
him a tool.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Get him a tie, a tool box, or a grill,
like nobody wants that. Nobody wants that.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, what are you buying? The fireman.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
He So the Fireman just got a brand new Forerunner.
That's why I had a fore Runner. And he wanted
these like laser fit custom mats to go throughout the car.
So that's what he asked for, that's what he got.
So yeah, so nothing crazy, but it wasn't It wasn't
a weighted walk rest. You know, it was something that
he wanted.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
But I guess in comparison, I guess that you guys
are on the same level with all the gifts.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
So yeah, I mean I care. I'm a gift giver.
I much rather get somebody something that they want, not
a weighted walking vest, which, by the way, is nice
act which by the way, also I've seen you post
with that thing on, so it's nice. No, I like it.
Liz is in Fitchburg, Liz, thanks. Doctor Renschler is a hotty. Okay, Liz,

(43:54):
he is a hotty.

Speaker 9 (43:55):
He's a he's a cute dad at the sign pepper
you know here, and and those juicy lips. I think
they nailed it this time around, Okay, And I'm sorry,
but I feel like for four hundred thousand dollars, what
they print aperture the Commonwealth and of course, he said,
there's no dog in his in the fight. He has

(44:16):
no dog in the fight. They he didn't care. Aperture
did not care. You know, if you're gonna lie in
your resume, you cover a letter, you know, for four
hundred thousand dollars, he's gonna do like the actual let's say,
you know, demonstrations or or testing. They don't give it.

Speaker 8 (44:33):
They don't give a.

Speaker 9 (44:34):
Damn for the money.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I think we're getting confused here. The guy Shannon Burgess
who lied on his resume, he was. He was for
like the online with the internet. Hoslung did die in
the cold.

Speaker 9 (44:46):
The other guy he was, but he was plot down,
but he was part of Aperture. Both of them were
part of Aperture. So the other guy was clearly he's like, no,
I have no dog in this fight.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
He didn't.

Speaker 9 (44:59):
He didn't do much of a thorough testing. But you
got paid with four hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, I think you know what I mean. Did remember
they even asked They even asked Wrenchler yesterday about how
much they got paid. And he's like, I don't they're
not the company got paid.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
I think you're getting separated.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
What you're getting what the companies got.

Speaker 9 (45:20):
No, no, I got separate. But what I'm saying is
for four hundred thousand dollars because remember the invoice was
an amended afterwards because they wanted them to prove more.
And then they also bought a Lexus and all that.
So they are could have done a little better to
demonstrate it, or at least to pretend more. But like
he said, he has no dog in his in this fight,

(45:43):
so they don't care. I don't think they paid. They
not demonstrating something. Well, that's what you know.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
We were saying that list because like I don't know
what you do, but you whatever you do for a living,
you're an expert in that field. We're an expert in radio.
Like it's kind of let's say I'm in the law
enforcement okay, so you're an expert in the law enforcement field,
which is like crazy, how we can each go together
at the end of the day.

Speaker 9 (46:04):
But at the end of the day, right exactly. But
at the end of the day, I mean, this is
the commonwealth pay for it. So it's like, how much
can you pay for them to prove something? I mean,
if she really hit him, it would have been that
easy peasy, she clipped them. People would have seen him
come on of the house, see him in the lawn,
they would be decided him. They would have seek assistance,
you know all that. But is doing what he can,

(46:28):
you know, in his power to make sure that, you know,
they get cleaned out.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
So it's really to say that because if that was
the case, and I feel like this case would be
cut and dry the first go around. There's clearly.

Speaker 9 (46:40):
There was not exactly.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Exactly Okay, I don't think anybody's going that one.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Karen Read must be her cousin, Karen Read must be
her people to be related.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
It's just not let's have a conversation. And I wonder
if you would feel different if Aperture was trying to
prove Karen Reid's side, like you know what I mean.
So it depends on how you look at the same.
Only beef is that this is all taxpayer dollars. Four
hundred thousand dollars is coming out of our pockets, low key,
you know what I'm saying. So if she even gets
found not guilty or they decide to try it again,
that's some more of our money going into this case.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
Four hundred thousand dollars was a lot of bread to
pay those people.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, yeah, I know, but it's like that probably happens
in a lot of these We're just not This one's
just brought to a spotlight for us, So I mean, yeah,
we can.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
But the thought of even trying to try it a
third time, yeah crazy because you have to spend over
a million dollars so far doing the both cases at least,
so that's another probably half a million I're gonna spend
to try to try it again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
No. And by the way, I mean Nick Potholes have
Crocco has said that he thinks that if in fact,
she gets found not guilty, that they will try it again.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
They shouldn't, like listen, it's it's over cool to see alone.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, but like like forum brought up, and it's true,
she's not she's not done. She's gonna be looking at
a civil suit like that family is gonna sue her
for it's it's it'll be along road for Karen Reid.
But either way, tomorrow's the day nine am closing arguments start,
and of course Nick Rokko will join us at seven
thirty come morning,