The Boston Garden Monkey pt 1

Dj 4eign drops some not soo known Boston History

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake yo, Thursday.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Look at us, we're creeping. We're getting closer to the weekend.
What's up with everyone?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
So on?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
How is your Wednesday?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
It was good? More so this morning. Do you guys
know what I saw?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm dead alert, I'm going something dead.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Well, yeah, it was a dead deer, But I guess
it wasn't the dead deer that threw me off. It
was the guy taking it by the neck, dragging it
off to the side of the road and disposing of it.
I thought that they put it on a truck and
they take it away literally on the other side of
the guardrail and just gone, just pulled, just pulled off.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
He's doing Wait, he was probably a civilian or that
he worked for the state.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I thought you meant somebody was just like a random nossen.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
I understand that deers need to go someplace once they're dead,
but like I guess.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, I assume they probably took them and burned them.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Yeah, I would just think out side of the road,
just over the dark. Maybe a different department comes by
it after. They don't just leave it, Yeah they don't. Yeah,
because he Cobby wasn't allowed to do it, and he's
just moving it at you know, highway safety or whatever
it is.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, no, I understand that, but I just like thought
it was a different process.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
So I thought they would have put it on it
like an inner something and then it goes like.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
A dumpster, right yeah, no, no, no, no no, no, he's
dragging it by the neck.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
I was like, Jesus, I know people who have seen
that and taken the day and taking it home to do,
you know, cook the meat, cook it up.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
But I guess if it's fresh, then it makes sense.
But not when it's like that.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
When the animals get hit, like some something in their
body gets released which taints the meat. I don't know
I've heard before.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, I mean I I think when they die they
lose their bowels, because I know that that happens with DRGs.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Like they they poop. Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Humans do that too, seeing that.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Humans do that sometimes when they're scared. If I ever
got so scared that I could dump in my pants,
kill me, please like think about it.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Like he's saying, I was so scared myself.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Because I guess it happened.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, I was just saying I didn't honest to God,
I didn't think that anybody ever got so scared they
pooped themsel I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
I don't think no, Ashley, you know what's the thing.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Right, not not scared.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Like if I scare you, like really bad sometimes to
say yeah, you pee, I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
There's there's there's aspects of that. I'll pee because my
public floor is weak because I had two kids.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Like, but that's that's you. But there are people out
there who get so scared before showed up.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, but not like I am now now it's like
foll Before it was little squirts.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Now it's uh, it's not good.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
But yeah, I just like I'm talking scared as in
I don't I don't know what would cause you poop.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Literally, you can't think you're gonna die, like somebody has
a gun to your face.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
I ain't really scared though. It doesn't take much.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, I mean, I'm junky, but I guess someone puts
a gun in my head isn't gonna kill me.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Maybe maybe I don't know.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
I saw a video, right, I saw video. This was
kind of funny. It was on tech took the other day,
and the dude walks up to this guy's crib and
He's like, I guess he was the supervisor of Homie's wife.
So he walks up to the supervisor's house and he's like, Yo,
you gotta stop talking to my wife the way you do.
Because I guess he came across some some some texts
of him being like, you know, how you doing sweetie?
How you doing this? He's like, nah, you the boss.

(03:38):
Don't talk to her like that. So he went off.
The next time, I swear, if you do it, I'm
coming back in the month. I'm gonna smack you. The
dude was like, all right, do you mind if I
go back in the house. It's like what He's like, Yeah,
I just pooped myself because I was so scared. He's like,
you said you got to use the bathroom. He's like yeah,
He's like, yeah, go ahead, he use the bathroom.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
You could get that scared mentally, like you're in such
fear that you lose control of everything. So I can understand.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I saw a video unrelated to being scared and doing it,
but it was a guy that was running. He was
like two miles into his five mile run or whatever,
and he's with his buddy and they stop and they
knock on a stranger's door and they ask. The guy goes,
can I use the bathroom? And the first guy's like
absolutely no and shuts his door, and then he knocks

(04:24):
on the neighbor's door. In the neighbor's like, oh yeah,
let me just put my dogs when you can go.
I would never but a stranger in my home. I
wouldn't let a stranger in my home a you know,
b to poop in your own in your bad Like.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
What yeah, but I guess like if you're running, then
you know what they're doing. But yeah, I've been in
that too, where I've considered going up to a door.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
It's been that bad.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I just held no, right am I like in crazy land?

Speaker 3 (04:52):
I mean that's a young like that's a young kid
or something like a baby, like help, okay, but you're
a grown man.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
You have to complete stranger because you're sweaty.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, and he was.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
He was, he was, he was sweaty, no shirt, he
was glistening. It was clear he was running. But I'm
not playing these games. He could have oiled up, gonna
come in and rob me exactly, soil oiled up and
like this idiot, Yeah, she's gonna let me in.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
I can't play these games.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Top out there on the roads though. If you're training
for something you're far away and it hits you, you
just can't you can't predict it. I had to go
so bad one time in Disney Springs because I was
running like down like down there. I went to the
bathroom there. I've gone in many like gas stations. Yeah,
I want to do that Disney Run. What the marathon?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Hell no, I thought you were talking about a little
like when you wake up early before the park open.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Oh, there's that one.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
But even when when you're doing like these racists, sometimes
it hits and you just can't control it.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Talk about vulnerable.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, and like then you have to like it's always
the walk back, the bus ride back, the way back
to wherever you have to go.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
You have to sit in it.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, Okay, how was the ductor?

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Ductall was amazing? Told you Duc Toll was amazing. Learn
a lot. Actually, I think later on we should do
a segment because I want to do a things you
didn't know about Boston six thirty because I learned a lot.
There's a lot of there's a lot of stuff that
they don't talk about. The City of Boston that I
think a lot of people will not know and need
to know. But the duck Tour was amazing. My parents
were excited. What was funny the best thing for me

(06:22):
because they didn't know where they were going. As we're
pulling up and getting closer to the Prudential Center, my
dad points out a duck boat and he's telling my mom.
He's like, Yo, do you know that thing drives on
land and he goes into water And my mom was like,
oh my god. Really He's like, yeah, that's so amazing.
So when we pulled up and we walked right up
to the duck boat, he's like, wait a minute, but
going on this thing, I was like, yeah, yeah, easy,

(06:43):
yoh smile from it.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I don't think.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
I don't seen my dad smile like that. They had
a good time. After that, we went to the View,
which is another amazing place that people should go to.
But yeah, they had a good time. In Boss.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Are they like phone boomers?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Like do they have the phones out to record so
they can show people back in Africa?

Speaker 5 (06:59):
But I think I think they also do it. My
dad is a is a gadget junkie. My mom I
think does it because she sees everybody else. Actually, okay,
I'm supposed to be She's yes, they're just how phones
are moving too fast. Sometimes it's not even recording and
I'm like, mom, hit the red button and she's like,
I'm sorry, and then you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
She's just trying.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
She's trying to fit in with the Joneses, right right,
right right. But yes, they had an amazing time. Yes
said it was dope.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Well, there you have it. At six thirty, we will
we'll do a history lesson with Paul. He's gonna help us.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
We're gonna learn all about Boston with DJ Forren at
six thirty.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Good Morning. It's actually in the Gambi Morning Show, actually in.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
The Jamie Morning Show with DJ Foreign and Sontylynn.

Speaker 7 (07:42):
You need to know, No, we got you three things
you need to know on Boston's number one for hip
hop and the best throwbags. She haven't any more vive all.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Right, guys.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Thursday, June fifth, and yesterday was Turtle Boy Day in Denham.
It was such a so here's what we got half
day in court yesterday.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
It was it was fairly quick. We started off with
Brian Lowryn Lowren. Let's just call him the plow driver.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Am I gonna sit here and try to pronounce his
last name, But he's the plow driver who claims that
he did not in fact see a body on the
lawn of thirty four Fairview when he had driven up
and down the street to plow it. He you know,

(08:34):
he seems like a genuine man. He seems like a
good hearted man. Absolutely not ever am I saying that
he's lying. But in the cross Hank definitely was trying
to prove that. You know, you're saying you didn't see

(08:56):
a body, but did you notice the dumpster on another
man front lawn? And he's like, uh, you know, no,
I would have noticed. I didn't see a dumpster. And
then Hank shows him a video of a dumpster right
next to thirty four fair of you, you know, kind
of insinuating. Listen, like, we don't even out here looking
for a body. You notice some things. He Hank Brennan

(09:16):
also brought up that he hit a basketball hoop and
he's like, oh, I didn't hit the basketball hoop because
I didn't see I just didn't.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Calculate the turn properly.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Hank then asked him about his timeline because his timeline
changed between talking to prosecution, talking to the Feds, talking
to the defense. His timeline of oh, well, I was
on this street at six point thirty and that street
like it had changed a few times, and not not
by anything crazy, but you know, maybe ten fifteen minutes, but.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Would be important.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
But again, I thought his initial testimony with the defense
was strong because he just seems like a regular civilian
man who does multiple jobs for the city of camp
In and was just out there trying to plow and
make the streets clean and safe. And that's what he
saw or did not see, so he says. And then

(10:11):
I think he got caught up a little bit in
the cross because not only was he questioned about his
driving and about what he noticed or didn't notice, and
it was clear that he didn't notice everything, he also
got asked about the attention that he's received because people
love him. Obviously, the Free Karen readers love him because look,
I mean he's out here saying at this time, I
drove by thirty four fair of you and there was

(10:33):
not a body outside, meaning John O'Keefe was inside. Yeah,
So people obviously love him, including Turtle Boy, And when
he's talked about in the Blox he's favored, so Hank tried.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
To use that against him as well.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Even showed the jury the plowdriver taking photos with fans.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
They were really taking pictures with this man.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
So Hank, you know, he tried to prove like, well,
you know, your life is easier and you're having a
better time because you're on a particular side of this.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
I don't really he doesn't strike me as the type
of guy that would like love the attention right Well.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
He said it straight up, He goes, I'm getting the attention.
I don't necessarily think that I deserve it for him.
Do we have a clip from him talking about his testimony?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Okay, here he is.

Speaker 8 (11:27):
There are many times where you have been intimidated, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (11:31):
No, you've been threatened.

Speaker 8 (11:33):
Nope, you are aware, sir, that you were being threatened
by an online blogger to expose you.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
I was not.

Speaker 8 (11:43):
You're saying, you sit here today you have no awareness
in the history of this case that you are being
threatened by an online blogger.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I was not threatened by an online blogger.

Speaker 8 (11:57):
Was the online blogger threatening or saying that he would
expose you? And tell personal things about you if you
weren't helpful.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
He was not threatening.

Speaker 8 (12:06):
Let me remove the word threatening. Was the person communicating
and making clear to you that if you didn't testify
in a certain way, there would be some consequence to you.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
No, So that was also in reference to turtle Boy.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Potentially, I guess Hank Brennan is trying to claim that
if the Paul Driver didn't keep the same story, that
there were threats of that.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
So Hank was trying to prove that.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
By the way, the craziest part of all of this
aiden Kearny Turtle.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Boy was in the courtroom.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
So once all this is happening, the camera at least
the one that I was watching, kind of pans over
and they show turtle Boy and he's like looking around.
Because they would never use his actual name, they just
kept calling him the blogger, the blogger, the blogger. So
it was kind of weird because it was like started
out with testimony of like you were you were just

(13:00):
free Karen Reader's guy, Like they loved you, you were it,
you you were the whistleblower.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
You were like, hey, there was no body out there.
Jaw was definitely inside.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
And then it kind of switched to, well, did they
threaten you then if you weren't going to tell the
same story, because obviously his timeline had changed a little bit,
and it was you know, he held he held strong,
I thought for the most part, But Hank was trying
to do Hank's job, which is to prove that, you know,
there might be a little bit of fear if in

(13:30):
fact he changed up his story.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Turtle Boy had to have known that he was going
to be mentioned that day, right, because why be there
that it was just luck of the eyes he was there?

Speaker 3 (13:39):
I want to know that was it luck at the draw,
that that's the day that he went into court or
and maybe Nick will.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Have a better answer for that.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
But I had heard a rumor that that Hank was
going to try to bring, you know, the whole Turtle
Boy wave into this, because if you think about it
like turtle people can say what you want about him.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
This is the man that put the spotlight on it.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Absolutely there.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
You You cannot convince me otherwise that man put a
spotlight on this.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Karen readcase and.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
What And in the beginning he was the only one
talking about this consistently.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I actually didn't even think he was allowed in the
court room.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, Sa, So I was kind.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Of shocked to see him, but it was just so
funny when they panned over to him and he's like,
you can see his eyeballs going everywhere because it's clear
they're talking about him in front of him, but not
saying his name. So we had that whole scene happening again.
It's a scene in that courtroom every single time, an
absolute scene. So a plow driver gets off, and then
we have a woman who was friendly with Karen at

(14:37):
the waterfall and describes her time and the exchanges between
John O'Keeffe and Karen at the bar is very loving.

Speaker 9 (14:44):
John went over to Karen and he gave her a
kiss on the forehead.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Okay, and that kiss on the forehead, Why did that
stand out to you?

Speaker 9 (14:53):
Honestly, I'd never seen something like that before. A boyfriend
due to a girlfriend in public, never saw that, So
it just stood out to me. I was like, Wow,
that's the sweetest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Fine, you never seen a guy kiss a girl on
a forehead, Honey, get out of Canton, So you know, listen.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
It was a quick cross with her too.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I feel like it was just to show hey, they
were fine at the bar, because you know, there's there
are some people that believe Karen hit him on purpose,
if in fact, you believe that she did, which I don't, whatever,
there are some people that think that. So I think
this was just a character witness to prove, oh, hey,
at the waterfall, they were good.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
But that's fine.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
We have the text messages to prove that they weren't
fine all day long.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
So I think you can easily combat that.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
But I also feel like we've all been in the
situation where things are fine with most of the day,
then one thing happens and it just rolls into something.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Else, and you're adding boo. She did confirm she was
drinking water, but Karen had, you know, a clear substance,
she said, in her hand.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
But she said either way.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Her conversations with Karen at the waterfall, she felt like
Karen was of sound mind. So I mean, listen, we're
we're seeing the defensive side right now, and I listen,
I thought that I thought the plow driver was I
can't say it enough, like just a good citizens.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, like he's just like energy.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
He wasn't combative even as he was answering these questions
from the prosecutor. He was just like, did you like
the celect? Like, did it make you feel good to
be liked? He's like yes, And then he's like, did
you like their attention? No? Not really no, matter of fact,
he didn't have. You know, everybody else understand has kind
of been shaky, like, oh, I'm gonna try to twist
your answers or try to make it look Now, he
was just like, I'm being honest.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Just the soul of the earth, guys just don't Yeah,
but you know, listen, I again, I understand because remember
we know that the defense knows how good Hank Brennan
is in the cross and I get it now.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I can see it.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Because I also think he did a great job of
planting a little seed in the jury's mind like, wait, okay,
I'm supposed to believe you saw that they're there was
no two hundred pound body laying there, but you missed
a whole thousand pound dumpster.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Like how you know what I mean? You you you
could see that.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Well so that you could see the grass, but you
could so. I just think Hank did a great job
of that. But I also think again, he stayed strong.
He was a good witness. Turtle Boy was the star yesterday.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
What a time. By the way, they have off today.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
No court today, BEV said, because they are ahead of
schedule and there's no air conditioning inside the courtroom. She's
gonna give them the day. It's gonna be ninety today.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Does that sound crazy?

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Rooms they do have a C but the acy's too
loud because they allays have to turn off the AC
because all of a sudden they can't hear each other
inside the court and she's always like, turn off the AC.

Speaker 8 (17:44):
Fight.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
But the news is saying the exact opposite. The news
is saying that there's no air conditioning inside the courtroom.
I don't know which one, whether foreigns writer or the news, but.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Like, yo, turn off the AC, turn off the fans
not okay.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I have yeah, the NewsChannel sevenths of this morning there's
no the judges, well, well, hey, some might fight that
be lying. I don't know, no I'm saying that.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
But by the either way, because of the hot temps,
they're saying there's no court today and they will be
back inside the courtroom tomorrow for a full day.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
It's still going to be eightyan there tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
And last summer was hot in the same courtroom.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Right and yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
So Karen, by the way, came out of the courtroom
yesterday and said that Tuesday, give her take could be
the last day.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Wow, this is quick.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Tuesday, give or take could be the last day.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
So let's just say Wednesday closing arguments. They could start
deliberating as early as Thursday of next week if it's
you know, she used the words give her take.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
But that's really fast turn around.

Speaker 10 (18:52):
That's very clean.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Karen Reid interested her guilty. We could know before July.
Not so all right. Brianna that was her name.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yesterday, the woman who testified for the prosecution over in
New York in Ditty's trial. She was a friend of
Ditty's ex Cassie, and she testified for it that Diddy
dangled her over a seventeenth story apartment balcony in twenty sixteen.
Just dangling her over the balcony. It's giving Michael Jackson

(19:25):
and baby blanket.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Yeah okay.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
She also claimed that he was so high on cocaine
he once told her I'm the devil and I can
kill you.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
She also testified that she saw Ditty throw a knife
at Cassie.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
I believe it all.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
I believe it was addicted to drugs. I never even
knew that that was the wildfall for me, making you
it was a scene at one point.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Some people that's crazy, but he clearly wanted to get
some something from her, because you don't just do that
for fun. You do that if they want to, like,
you know, press you to do something.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
First off, dangling a body like that over a seventeenth
story apartment and then being strong enough to hang the
body over. And you, guys, understand how much you have
to assume doing have to because that's like, that's you
have to be Arnold Schwartzeneger.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Or even more body right, or just have other people
doing it helping you.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yes, yes, hang exactly, multi multiples multiples.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Her testimony, by the way, will continue today with a
cross examination, and so we'll see what they can get
with her in the.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Cross All right. Congratulations of Kendra, Kendrick, Lamar and Sizza.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
By the way, I feel like I have done this
story so many times, but this song just keeps going
and going and going. Luthor has now become the longest
running number one song on the Billboard R and B
and Hip Hop charts. It has now occupied the top
spot record for twenty three weeks. Guess whose record they broke?

(20:58):
His own not like Us was the previous record holder
with twenty two weeks.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
What a run does Guy's happen all off of this song?
Maybe you really think about it. That's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
If Drake never upset him, this would never have been happening.

Speaker 10 (21:13):
Boom.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
You don't have the career that you have. You're not
selling out tools, You're not You're not selling out stadiums.
Shout out to Kendrick Man. Keep doing your thing.

Speaker 10 (21:23):
I guess keeping grass.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
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Speaker 2 (21:48):
All right, everybody, we're going to history class.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Chase DJ Forn took a duck tour yesterday. Honestly, the
duck boats are dope. If somebody visits and you were
they've never been to the city. It's an easy thing
to do. I got I don't know where you got on,
but I got on right near the aquarium.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
I got on on Prudentials. So they got the aquarium,
they got the prudential man. There's one in the backbed here, yeah, yeah,
and then there's two more I know after that.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
So you can hop on at different locations. They take
you throughout the city. You learn all about the rich
history of Boston. So you learned some things yesterday that
you feel like our listeners should have to Boston.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
These are things that you need to know that I
never knew. I mean, I'm not from the Bean. But
at the same time, I don't think a lot of
people realize this. So we're gonna start light and then
we're gonna end heavy. First thing that you need to know.
I'm gonna do three things, right, did John know? Back
in two thousand and two, before they opened the Zacon Bridge,
they allowed pedestrians, just people to walk over the bridge,
which is the Zakam, which ended up being about two

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hundred thousand residents were allowed to walk on the bridge
months before they opened it to traffic.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
But we're talking about just like on a random day
or we're talking about.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
I don't know the details. No, they said it was
months prior to it open. Those were not allowed on
it yet at all. This is right before they open
it up. And they said residents can walk one day,
So I'm not assuming that it was two hundred thousand
people on one day of a span of probably weeks
or a month or something like that. Cool. Now, to
show the strength of the bridge, which they say can
hold about one hundred and twelve thousand pounds, they brought

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the Wrigley brothers in ring Lee Brothers in to walk
about fourteen elephants across the bridge to show that it
was strong enough. I don't know how fourteen elephants are
heavy enough to compare vehicles that are going to be
driving on here. Luckily nothing ever happened, and thank god
that the second bridge is so stated.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
By Yes, like one hundred and twelve thousand isn't that much.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I mean, I just thought it would it could hold
like any more.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
Than that one hundred and twelve thousand pounds, good amount,
But those elephants don't weigh more than a trap. What
I'm saying carway about two thousand pounds. Depending on the car.
But it's traffic. That traffic. Everybody yea sucks. By the way,
shout out to Ziggy. I was told God who kind
of was like, yeah, that's not the way you test
a bridge. Just with forteen elephants. You probably want like

(24:07):
a whole herd of them over there, just to make
sure that it's good. At least again, they let that happen.
That was a big deal back in the day. Again,
two hundred thousand pedestrians got to walk the Zacon Bridge
before it opened up. And by the way, the Zacon
Bridge was the widest bridge in the US until New York.
I think somebody in New York came and said, nah,
we gotta beat this and their bridge. I don't know what.
The name of the bridge in New York is literally

(24:29):
an inch wider. So now we are just hold the title. Yes,
they are petty, So that's number one. Number two this
one has to do with the TD Garden. Again, Wriggly
Brothers kind of involved in this. Back in the day.
The TD Garden built a ramp specifically for said elephants
to be able to walk into the arena so they
could do their show. And it's still there. Now it's

(24:50):
not really used. I don't think that much. But it
was only meant for them. When the Wrigly Brothers left,
they left a monkey on accident. Monkey lived there and
was eating people's snacks all this, and nobody knew about this.
No monkey. Nobody saw a monkey at the garden. That

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thing lived there for a long time. It wasn't until
they went to remodel the garden and name it the
Garden and all that that construction workers found it dead
in one of the two roofs that was in the garden.
Crazy story, crazy that thing was there. I think they were.
It was rumored to be there, but nobody could prove it.

(25:35):
But then when they went to remodel it, one of
the workers found it. He actually took it home with
him and took a picture and all that. But yeah,
they found the dead monkey. It had passed away. And
this was a while after they passed Like, yeah it was.
It was not a skeleton, but it was. It was
getting there. It was decomposing.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Wow, Like, yeah, there's a story about it.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
Wild story.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, the mystery of the Boston Garden Monkey.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Imagine you just leave your popcor on the floor. I
think it's like feasting.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
So yeah, for years too, and there's so many events
that you have food like every night too. Yes, beer.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
There was a photo of the monkey corpse, but they
didn't have the physical one.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
But yeah, so they said that they found it. That
was mind blowing to me. I was like, Oh, that's crazy.
This one for sure is something that's not talked about
in Boston at all. I never even knew this. About
a hundred years ago, back in the North End, there
was a tank that existed that was about what was

(26:33):
it about fifty foot tank that was full of two
point three million gallons of molasses. I know this now.
This this tank again, they were making syrup and this
is I guess how they made the Boston beans because
they're sweet. This is where they got to serve from
to be able to make these beans. The tank was

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such in disarray. It was degrading so bad that kids
in the neighborhood would run around and show back up
in the crib with gallons of syrup because it was
leaking out the side of the structure of the tank.
The company that owned the tank didn't want to fix it,
so what they did they just painted the tank brown,

(27:15):
the color of the molasses instead of going and patching
things up. So this thing was leaking. And on one day,
I think it was in December January. It was a summer,
it was the middle of winter. But this particular day
happened to be like sixty degrees. Again, this is in
nineteen ninety nine, I mean part of me, nineteen nineteen.
It happened to be about seventy degrees sixty a son's degrees.

(27:37):
Everybody was out doing anything, enjoying life, and they all
heard what sounded like gunshots or a bang. Everybody thought
in a rumbling they were like, ah, nothing's going on,
until they started seeing a tsunami. I'm not playing with you.
A tsunami of molasses running through the north end. There
was a trained station, there was a train track with

(27:57):
a train on it that was right next to the tank.
White out people, white out houses, white out like this thing.
There's a picture that she showed us, and it literally
looked like a wave of tsunami. This is molasses traveling
at like thirty miles per hour.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Time magazines that have killed twenty one people, yes, injured
one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yes, three millions sugary liquid and a sugary liquid, and
they tried to start, you know, they tried to start
cleaning up the spot, trying to clean up the molasses.
They couldn't. They weren't able to do it because of
the way it's sticky. But yes, the texture sticky. But
they figured out it. They start bringing salt water from
the harbor that would degrade it and be getting more
easy to clean up. They started doing that. How this

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is not even a movie that's been made yet is
astounding to me. But she was like, nobody talks about
this in the city of Boston. Why she doesn't know,
which is kind of a crazy story to think about.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
It rushed through the streets for an estimated at an
estimated thirty five.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Miles per hour. Yes, the great molasses flood.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yes, imagining and stuck in that like you just died,
but you can't move, Like, damn, this is a sweet death.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
I don't even like when Sarah touches anything but my pancakes,
let alone my body.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
But molasses doesn't really taste great. It's when they process, right.
This was the raw grade of that's like, that's pungent.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
So the company that owned the tank try to be
like that that the company that owned the tank could
try to say that somebody went there and place the
bomb and it was sabotage, but they came to find
out that that thing was completely structurally unsound and that
they just tried to cover it up instead of fixing it.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
And you waste some money painting it, just fixed the whole.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
That's what they said.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, but yeah, nineteen times were different.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah, one hundred years ago. A few things that I
learned about boss and which was wow, crazy to me.
Someone needs to make that into a movie. I thought,
I think that would be dope.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
I still think it's insane. And no nobody saw the monkey, like,
no's gonna hear it, bro right.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
The monkey. I mean if the thought in his full
and everybody.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
It would probably hide during those times.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
And then damn walking around like yo, guys.

Speaker 11 (29:58):
The yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what they try to do,
that plow driver and they're like, there he is telling
the lies again.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
So then I gotta I got a shoutout Ziggy who
was out to a guy on a duck boat. She
told these stories very nicely, and I was very intrigued,
and I was like, you know what, I got to
come share this with the city because I don't think
a lot of people know this.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
There's always the easy one to the fun fact that
there's there's it's something crazy. But there's like a dunkin
Donuts on every corner or within every like few couple
of miles in Boston. And like I said yesterday, one
of my favorites was, you can drink a cold, Sam Adams,
next to the cold she said.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
That, Sam Adams, You said that. And when you're on
a duck bowl. If you ever go on a duck boat,
they have this thing where you can't you. So I
guess in Boston as people walk by duck boats, they
go quack quack, and you gotta quack them back. And
she was, you know, she was a little honey. She
was like from out of space. She told us she's
not from Earth. And all of this.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
You got a good one.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Anytime someone will say quackquack on the street, she will
go beam me up. And what us would go quack quack.
She's like, oh, we just got a quack bem me.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I just pictured your parents on the boat looking round
like quack clack.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Actually, in the jam In Morning Show with DJ Foreign
and Sauntin when.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
You need to know.

Speaker 7 (31:24):
We got you three things you need to know on
Buston's number one for hip hop and the best throwbags.
She haven't any more.

Speaker 10 (31:31):
Five What a day in.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Jethham, Thursday, June fifth.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
We are guys, we're in week seven and Karen Reid
left court yesterday and said I could be done on Tuesday,
give or take. Meaning if things wrap Tuesday, say let's
just say closing arguments Wednesday. These jurors could be deliberating
as early as next Thursday, and we can get.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
A decision by the following Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
I mean, how long did it take last time?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Why do I feel like three weeks? I could be
totally wrong.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
I don't know if it was three weeks, so I
think it was it wasn't enough time when.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
She kept s I remember Nick Rocco texting me because
while the jury was deliberating, they had Karen and her
team waiting across the street in like an old church,
and it was one hundred degrees at this time last year.
They were sweating, it was disgustingly hot, and they were
just dying for.

Speaker 10 (32:26):
For a verdict.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Come to come back. I don't remember how long it took.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
I just remember that is what it's saying.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Maybe maybe for the first time, because I know she
sent them back in a couple of times and it
seed for days.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
They came back and they were like, we can't decide.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, so and that did take days because she remember
Bev had to enact some certain thing where she was like,
you have to go back in.

Speaker 10 (32:48):
Damn right, it was long.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
I felt like it was days.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
It felt like, honestly, it felt like weeks.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
To me, I feel like this time around, it's not
going to be as long. I feel like they're going
to get to it sooner.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I mean, technically they could come back that day.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
I mean, who knows lasted five days?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Five days? Wow, that's so crazy if you think.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
About it, that happened for five days.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Because if in the first ten hours they were like,
we can't decide, all right, so yesterday I'm just gonna
call him the plow driver. We had the plow driver
Bribebrye up on the stand. I called him Assault of
the Earth type of guy.

Speaker 10 (33:25):
He just reminds me of.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
A civilian who wears multiple hats because he has multiple
different jobs and he's just working hard for his family.
Lost his wife I think at one point, I don't
know if it was last year or within the last
couple of years that was brought up, that was mentioned.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
But just you know, his job was to plow the
streets and that's what he was trying to do.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
And I thought the defense did a good job of
kind of laying the groundwork for that where there would
be no reason for him to lie because he's just
from Canton. This is what he does, and he is
claiming the big part of his testimony is that when
he was plowing past thirty four Fairview Road, he did.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Not see a body on the lawn.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Now, in the cross examination, Hank Brennan does Hank's thing.
Hanky was out there trying to prove like, Okay, well
you noticed that there was nothing on the lawn, but
did you notice the dumpster?

Speaker 2 (34:18):
And he's like, what dumpster?

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Then he's shown video footage of a dumpster on the
street that he didn't notice. So again just trying to
poke holes in Okay, you're so sure you didn't see,
but you missed.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
This massive thing.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
It was also brought to the jury's attention that he
is being celebrated for the fact that he is on
the free Care and read side. I'm presuming that just
because that's what the free Care readers think. Like if you,
for instance, when he was on the stand, I love
sometimes reading the comments in the comments section. It's hard

(34:53):
not to while you're watching, and these people consider this
man a legit hero.

Speaker 8 (35:00):
When you ever been celebrated after you testified and.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
The way favorable for one yes the other yes, when you.

Speaker 8 (35:06):
Were celebrated to testifying a certain way, did you find
that to be encouraging?

Speaker 5 (35:12):
I did find it to be encouraging.

Speaker 8 (35:14):
Did you do?

Speaker 5 (35:15):
I did not want it. I don't think I deserved it.
All I was doing was my job and telling the trip.

Speaker 8 (35:25):
Did you enjoy the attention that you got?

Speaker 5 (35:27):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Hank even went as far as to show the jury
photos of the plow driver Brian taking selfies and photos
with people you know in their pink shirts.

Speaker 10 (35:39):
But I get it.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I understand why the Free Karen readers love him.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
But he also said that the reason why he did
take those pictures is because he didn't want to have
any any smoke. Basically, he was like, I didn't want
any consequences. I didn't want anything bad for I was
being polite. I didn't want nobody to come and be like, oh,
he's a bad guy, and then I get, you know,
kind of like trashed.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, which doesn't but that didn't add up to me
that it makes nose send.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
If Free Karen readers love him, they come out, can
we get a picture with you?

Speaker 10 (36:04):
No, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
They're not gonna be they love him. He's if you
think about it, he's a whistleblower to them. I mean,
if he is saying there is nobody on the lawn
at this specific time, that means if you're if you're
a jur and you're trusting him. John was inside. So
I don't think any Free karent reader would get mad
at him if he was like, oh I can't do
pictures today.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
I think that's just what he said.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
I also, I don't care who you are, where you're from, Canton, Timbuktu.
You like attention, you like intention, And I thought, that's okay,
it's fine, and that's cool. Now now there's the turtle
boy element to all of this. He was not called
Turtleboy in court yesterday by Hank. He was referred to
as the blogger, and Hank was basically trying to insinuate, well,

(36:48):
you also got a threat from this quote blogger that
if you changed your story. At least this is what
Hank is trying to you know, push that if you
changed your story, he threatened you. He said he would
would post things about your family. And Brian completely deny
those allegations.

Speaker 8 (37:06):
There are many times where you have been intimidated, isn't
it No, you've been threatened. Nope, you were aware, sir,
that you were being threatened by an online blogger to
expose you.

Speaker 12 (37:19):
I was not.

Speaker 8 (37:22):
You're saying, as you sit here today, you have no
awareness in the history of this case that you were
being threatened by an online blogger.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
I was not threatened by an online blogger.

Speaker 8 (37:36):
Was the online blogger threatening or saying that he would
expose you and tell personal things about you if you
weren't helpful.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
He was not threatening.

Speaker 8 (37:45):
Let's remove the word threatening. Was the person communicating and
making clear to you that if you didn't testify in
a certain way there would be some consequence to you.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
No, Brian held strong by the way the blogger Aiden
Kearny turtle Boy was in the court room, making this
whole thing even more awkward, and of course more TV like,
because why wouldn't it be, And the camera kind of
pans over and there he is just sitting. Somebody DM
me and said whether this is factual or not, that
they picked ten journalists to be allowed into the courtroom

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at like a random draw, and it just so happened
that he got picked the.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Random.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
To me, it doesn't and then a lot and then
to have it panned to him, Well, he.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Wasn't there a lot in the first travel. But then
I feel we never.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
See this one. I used to see him a lot
in the in the kind of corner.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Okay, because I don't remember seeing it, but also he
stood out so much because he was wearing like orange
or red or something, so it stood out to me.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
Well, they were the one that like they pem, I
can't say the word.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
We'reliminary, thank you.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
And they had them kind of sitting on the opposite
side because right now they sitting fall across on the
other side of the court. They were sitting closer to
the camera. He would have his laptop out with a
message on the screen because he knew the camera's beyond him,
and you'd kind of position is lapped up to say
like happy birthday somebody, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
It was my free cam.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Well he didn't say that. One time I remembered was
something like happy birthday to somebody, and I was like, Yo,
this dude really knows what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, they caught him after CORP yesterday on his way out,
and here's what he had to say.

Speaker 13 (39:19):
I posted the entirety of our messages with receipts on
my Twitter account. The world can see it, so it's
completely basics. There was no threat said, just one. I
think the bigger question is why did a blogger, as
Hank Brendan calls me, Why did I get to speak
with the plow driver before Michael Proctor did.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
That's a fact, though, I mean that should have been
high on Michael Proctor's list to be like, let me
get anybody who could have driven by, you know, the
scene of the crime, not eight. But again I said
this last hour, you got to tip your cap to's
Turtle Boy for putting a spotlight on this story.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
Like that's the reason why a lot of people know
about it.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
He absolutely is so anyways, but you know, for the defense,
I understand, I think great witness because again, the timeline
would make sense to that John o'que was inside. Hank
Brennan did a great job of trying to prove that
his timeline has changed multiple times by whether it's ten
minute increments, fifteen thirty. It was one time when he

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talked to the prosecution, it was a different time when
he talked to the FED.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
So Hank was trying to poke holes in his story there.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
But either way, I mean, he's just an average civilian
man who is a plow driver, So I think I
can understand why he might.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Be believable to the jury.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Next up, we have a woman a.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
I kind of thought her testimony was a wash. I
thought it was stupid.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
I mean, I don't it did nothing for me either way.
I was far more interested in the plow driver. But
this woman's testimony was basically to say, Hey, when I
saw Karen and John O'Keeffe at the bar at the waterfall,
they were so in love, and I know that because
of this one gesture.

Speaker 9 (40:58):
John went over to carear and he gave her a
kiss on the forehead.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
Okay, and that kiss on the forehead, why did that
stand out to you?

Speaker 9 (41:07):
Honestly, I'd never seen something like that before a boyfriend
due to a girlfriend in public never saw that, so
it just stood out to me. I was like, wow,
that's the sweetest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Where are you going?

Speaker 2 (41:23):
She doesn't get out of Canton because I don't like what, like,
that's wild to me. I mean, this was just stupid.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
And by the way that the cross was nothingness. He
had asked her a couple of questions and that was it.
And my whole thing is like, listen, say what you
want about that. But we got the receipts. Karen was
going at John all day leading up to the waterfole,
so we we know that, Yeah, they might have had
a couple of drinks and he hit her with the
forehead kiss. But I mean, I don't know. I was
she I thought that was a waste, waste of our time.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Then we also have the text that she was texting
the other dude this entire time too, you.

Speaker 10 (41:55):
Know, she was.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
The forehead really sold her. So anyways, Court was easy yesterday.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
They were over.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Around like twelve thirty one o'clock.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Due to the higher tempts today, with tempts being in
the nineties, Court is off today. Bev is saying it's okay,
it's gonna be hot or canceling court, but we are
ahead of schedule. They will be back in the courtroom
tomorrow for a full day of testimony. And like I said,
Karen is saying Tuesday, give or take, they could rap wow,
and we might we might be deliberating next week. People

(42:25):
who all right, let's talk Diddy. Brianna Bongolan Bongolan Bangalan.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
She was on the standing shay Anael's talk. I got
all these witnesses. I don't know how to produnce everybody's
last name.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
But we're in New York now for Ditty's case, and
during his proceedings yesterday, she told prosecution and defense that
Diddy was a bad, bad man, especially when he was
high on cocaine. She said at one point he dangled
her over a seventeen story apartment balcony that happened in
twenty sixteen. She said once when he was h on cocaine.
He also told her I am the devil and I

(42:59):
can kill you. She also testified that she saw Diddy
throw a knife at Cassie Ventura, but also admitted that
her and Cassie did have a little bit of a
drug problem, but I don't think Cassie really denied that.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
You know, Cassie told.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Us during her testimony that she had to take drugs
literally to just survive the day with this man.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
But Didty was a maniac? And then more people that
they have up there talking about and the more evidence
comes out that he was just insane, Yeah, like maniac.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
I mean even let's just say we've heard thirty crazy
stories about Diddy. Say you only believe two or three,
that's enough. But these stories are It's not like we're
hearing little baby, normal stories. We're hearing just these wild,
wild tales over and over again. If if you're a
juror and you pick one or two to believe, and
you're like, this.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Is nuts, and it's an when it comes down to
the sacks, it comes down to the abuse, it comes
down to all aspects of life too, business like he
didn't hold back in anywhere.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
No, he did.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
And she, by the way, will be under the cross
examination today, So I'll keep you looped in on that.
Mariah Carey, I told us we got a brand new
album on the MC sixteen is coming and we're getting
her first single tomorrow. I'm sure Forren will play a
little bit more for us tomorrow for new music Friday,
But we got a teaser of Mariah Carey's new single

(44:14):
type Dangerous.

Speaker 10 (44:19):
Danger. That's that's fine doing anything for anybody.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
He gives an older kind of vibe. That's what I
kind of thought. But at the same time, that's kind
of what's in right now, like like back in the day,
R and B feel it's kind of what's in right now.
So maybe she's going.

Speaker 10 (44:48):
To get a hit.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
But it's it's like if I didn't know it was
from the now time, I can picture myself in high
school hearing something it's Mariah.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
I don't really think people want to hear from her.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Maybe you're that's just all right, you know what, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
We'll see, We'll.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Say, hey, we'll see what the numbers do. Fourn will
play a little bit more for us tomorrow. That is
three things that you need to know for Thursday, June fifth,
Round one of the weekends tickets happening right now six
one seven, nine, three one one nine four five colors
twenty five. You were going to the weekend show is
literally next Wednesday. We're less than a week away.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Good luck, Dashy and the jam.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
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Speaker 7 (45:28):
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Speaker 2 (45:36):
Hi, everybody, good morning. We're doing the check in right now.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
We're checking in on you, your life, your World's all
about what's happening to you. Because we always say there's
an additional microphone on this show, and it's all about you.
Even when I was doing Afternoons back back in the day,
you know, you guys always would call in and you
would check in about your life. And then during COVID
we we started the segment and it's been our favorite

(46:01):
ever since. So six one seven, nine three one one
four five six one seven nine three one one nine
four five we're talking about whatever you want. Jen is
in Bill Ricca. Jen believes she knows why Karen Reid
did not do it.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Give it to us, Jen, what do you know? I
don't know it.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
I made that up.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
It's okay, but no autumn, far more serious. Note, you're
going to the YMC, you're hitting the y.

Speaker 12 (46:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
I do a lot of laps and you know, exercising
and you know, trying to stay healthy as much as possible.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Oh, I love that. So you're a swimmer, yes.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
You know, they say that swimming is one of the
best exercises that you can do. I myself, I don't
like to do it because I don't want to get
my hair wet. Because if I swim every day, then
I gotta pulw my hair dry every day, and I
I'm not about that life.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
These extensions I know, and you know what, try, but
I tried.

Speaker 12 (47:04):
I tried.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I tried the swimming cap, but for some reason, the
water was still getting it.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
I'm just doing yeah, either that or I'm doing it wrong.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
You gotteeah. The good ones that keep your head dry expensive. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I also look like a little penis out there. It's
not it's not hot, all right, gell Yeah, I could
try pickleball, for sure. I am a I like to
lift weights.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
That's my type of exercise.

Speaker 14 (47:27):
Or try to zoomer. Zoomer is very very intense.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Zoomba. You guys picturing me doing zoomba. Okay, all right,
all right, Jim, we'll have a great time at the y.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
I will keep thinking about the Karen Reid thing you too,
by Yeah, No, women is excellent and it's so good
for your joints. That's why it's great. It's it's low
and faces. It's great for your joints.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Triathlon days like when I used to do them, I
used to love the swimming, but my appetite would be
ferocious when I was done with a swim because you
burned so many calories that you just want to consume.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
And I love like I love the older lady classes.
I'm I'm hopping in those when I'm an older lady.
They get in the pool with the with the dumbbells
and stuff.

Speaker 10 (48:12):
That's for me.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
But I don't think you need that because I feel
like those ladies spent a lifetime not doing really like
any fitness because back then it wasn't as prevalent as
it is now. I feel like if you upkeep it now,
you can lift weights into your seventies.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I'm doing fitness today with uh someone special.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Oh naked fitness.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I would prefer to have clothes on.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
Okay, it's with you.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Oh it's me, lucky me.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Six one seven nine three one one nine four five.
That is six one seven nine three one one nine
four five. We're doing the check in. Do you want
to talk to Dennis right now? Those places now, okay,
Forn's just she's just typing.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
It's fine. This is this is what librbio is about.
That wasn't that bad? No American Jesus Dennis, Hi, good morning,
Hey Ashley, Hell are you good?

Speaker 3 (49:03):
So I believe this is in reference to Turtle Boy
squeezing his way into the courtroom. We were trying to
figure out how he got in. Now I saw another
person sent me a message saying that he took inside
editions spot in the courtroom. I guess they know showed
and he was next up on the list. Maybe you
have a little bit more info for me.

Speaker 12 (49:23):
So that so the first trial was first come, first
served for the media. Okay, so that's how Total Boy
last year he used to get into every single day
because he'd have his ut and just people saved his seat.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah, he was camping.

Speaker 12 (49:39):
So what happened was two media people got in a
little fight and that guy assaulted girls. So there was
a big thing with the media. So this time around,
Judge Stubbs said, no, we're not going to do that.
Every Thursday. We'll pick ten people of two alternates and
that'll be for the week ahead. So Total Boy don't time.

(50:02):
Total Boy can't go. It's like selling that he has
charges against like John McCabe. It's the witness intimidation right
right right. If it's them, he can't go to court.
But this week he was picked to go to court.
So I think it's the first week this in like
six weeks he's actually in the courtroom because the randomized
of that they picked the people. He hasn't been picked

(50:23):
until this week.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
You got to give it to him too. He woke
up and he was going to court.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
He pick the right outfit because you could pick him
out quick in that like orange red top.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
He was rocking. Well, there you have it. So then
I guess we'll see him tomorrow as well. Dennis.

Speaker 12 (50:37):
Yeah, he'll be here for the week. I'm not sure
we'll find out today. He usually posted a bunch of
people from the media on Twitter. Who posts the list
of who's going to be there for next week pick
on Thursdays.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
I love it, all right, Dennis, thank you so much
for the call. Uh Steph is in prov Hi staff,
Good morning.

Speaker 14 (50:55):
Good morning, it's Ben.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Beth.

Speaker 8 (51:00):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yes, what's up?

Speaker 6 (51:04):
All right?

Speaker 12 (51:04):
So I used to call it when Nick Zamba.

Speaker 14 (51:07):
I feel like this time you're actually paying more attention
to the case, and you can see like the boards
through the trees, and you can see that somebody who
is nine drinks drunk and went and reversed and then
his phone stopped like there's the phone never got warm.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
He did not go in the house. The truth is
not a moving target. Her story constantly changes to just
to deflect all of the evidence against her.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Listen, Bess, I've said this a thousand times. I've said
it before. I think my thought on this case changes
with the weather. And that's why, in fact we're in
here in a mistrial, because you know, the first set
of jurors couldn't decide. You know, I truly believe that
there's enough reasonable doubt in this case that Karen should
should be found not guilty, because I think it was
watched so much so that all they the defense has

(51:56):
to do is poke some holes here, create some reasonable doubt.
And I do believe that they've done that. But I'm
not Yes, I can't. I can take a step back
and see that there is two sides to this and
even if, like I said, even if in fact Karen
did do it, I still believe she should get off.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Beth. I'm sorry, but I believe that because I do.
I do think that's how botched this case was.

Speaker 6 (52:19):
So like so barring the Texas from Procter, the blood
in the solo cups, we didn't even need the blood.
It's John's blood.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Well, listen, it's actually not even about like him commenting
on her having a leaky balloon not really does nothing
for me, because he could say crazy things about her.
If that doesn't mean he's a bad police officer when
he's doing his actual work, that just means he's a
bad person in an ate. So I'm not even talking
about those text messages. I'm really talking about the way
they did this investigation as a whole. I mean, think
about it. Aiden Kearny came out of court yesterday and

(52:51):
said I was the first person to contact the plow driver,
not Michael Procter.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
How is that physically possible?

Speaker 3 (52:56):
How is it possible that a police officer investing this
case with a fellow police officer dead isn't doing the
right research to figure out every single person that was
on that street in the last twenty four hours.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
That's not good police work. I'm not a policeman. I
watched the wire though. That's not good police work.

Speaker 12 (53:14):
I watched the wire.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
You're the best.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
So two things can be true. Like it was that
bad police work you're talking about, can't in a suburb
that has what one murder every fifty years. So I
get that there was bad police work, but that does
not take away from the murder too for somebody who
knowingly went and reversed. Seventy five percent of the gas

(53:37):
pedal pushed. Yeah, when a person just got out of
her vehicle. It's just like if you had a gun
and you shot it up in the air in a crowd.
You know that one of those bullets might hit a person.
That's murder too. It doesn't mean intent. It means you
know that what you do can create physical bodily damage
to somebody.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
No, it's again, and I I'm getting heat for it.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
People are calling me all types of names because I'm
saying I'm able to see, you know, both sides to it.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
I just again, I think for me personally, and who
am I I don't matter. I'm not a juror.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I just think there's enough, there's enough reasonable doubt that
she should probably get off, whether she did it or not.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
And I can see I can see a scenario in
which she maybe she did.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
Do I have to do you agree with that? Do
you agree that there's enough reasonable doubt?

Speaker 6 (54:24):
I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you
that weekend there was tons of snow. All we were
doing was watching TV, and I remember the news story
and I said, oh my god, this poor girl killed
her boyfriend. I feel so bad for her. But then
I am a critical thinker. I work in insurance. I
said that to you before. The first things a person
says are the most true. After that, the brain fills

(54:46):
in for what they need to feel okay about themselves
and to be more right.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah, and listen, we w the three of us.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
I've mentioned that she she did say I had on
my head on my head to the first three people
she encountered.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
You know, we've brought that up too. But I think
if you've listened to other shows, I.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Think this is one of the there's a few other ones,
but this is one of the only ones where we
will say that we see both sides. People are afreie
to do that because the free care and readers will
come for you.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
They've been coming from me. But I again, no, no, no,
I know, I'm just saying I like the camp.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
I'm I'm so happy to have the conversation because, like
I said, I can see both sides to it. But
but in my heart of hearts, I believe there's enough
reasonable doubt. I think Daddy Al and the team did
the did a great job improving that. Beth, thanks for
the call.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Uh yeah, I just.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
Again, she could be guilty. But ya ya, y'all f
this up so bad that it's hard to be like,
I did she really get a fair investigation?

Speaker 8 (55:47):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (55:48):
There's so much reasonable doubt. I don't think anybody who's
against oh says that she's the one that did it
can deny that. You can't. There's just too much, too
much change stories, too much with behavior. Is if she's
gonna say, oh, whatever the person first says at the
at the at the beginning is the truth. Then the
cop that said that they went into the garage for

(56:08):
what did she say?

Speaker 2 (56:08):
A wildly long time?

Speaker 5 (56:10):
So that's the truth, then, right, yeah, that's your if
that's your energy, you got everything that everybody said the
first time is the truth.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Now my whole issue with it is why why can't
we just have this back and forth about it? Like,
there are some people who can't they can not handle
this conversation. They get upset when like, Forren just said
she might be guilty, but there's enough, like we should
be able to he should be able to say that
and not get attack. Well, don't know if you get
me dms, because they're always they're always kind of fun.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
Most people.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
Most people have their own theories that relate to them
and that they strongly believe, but none are the same
across the board, And people get so upset when you
don't disagree with that.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
That's the problem. Have an emotional conversation about it. Yeah,
be invested in at all you want. There might be
some some kind of foul play happening. But just because
I don't agree with you, you don't mean all of
a sudden we anybody.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
The other day and goes Ashley on air, you say
that you know you can see both sides depending on
who's you know, who's telling the story, if it's hanging
from whatever, And she's like, you just can't.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Possibly be that much of a dumb bitch. I go,
I am a dumb bitch, but not for that reason.
I took my kids out to breakfast by myself the
other day. Now that's dumb bitchness.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
Okay, not this doesn't matter what we think or what
that person thinks. It's the jury's when they come down.

Speaker 5 (57:27):
Yeah, yeah, the day y'all. Don't work for Canton PD,
y'all and not working for the.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
FB acting like Karen reads your sister.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
You don't know this lady, because again found guilty or not.
And if they don't do this trial over again, y'all,
ain't y'all ain't going to Karon Reach's crip to go
have dinner with us.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
You're not breaking around.

Speaker 5 (57:44):
Just don't forget about it and move.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
On seriously, all right. Six one seven nine three one
one nine four five. That is six one seven nine
three one one nine four five. We're talking about anything
you want, whatever's going on in your world.

Speaker 10 (57:57):
Hit us up.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
It's the checking only on Jemen ninety four five.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
Veas says you.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Yeah, he's behind you, says you.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Unrelated to what we're about to play the talk bag.
But I said it.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
My dad used to be a history teacher and back
in the day, I sat it on one of his classes,
and I remember I was like zoning in and out,
and I think the students were too. And then all
of a sudden, he starts going on this like the
history of Tupac and how he still believes that he
was alive, and like the bell rings and they go
and I'm like dad, and he goes, Pok's alive.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
I don't care. What are you teaching these kids?

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Pa is definitely dead because I've seen the picture of
his body.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
You know, Jada could be she could be helping out
of that.

Speaker 10 (58:49):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
All right, We're gonna end the check in with this talkback.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
I just don't know.

Speaker 14 (58:57):
Like I'm going back and forth on having another kid.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
My daughters too.

Speaker 11 (59:01):
I'm obsessed with her, but like, pardon me, wants another
and part of me is like so nervous.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
I don't know, how did you decide?

Speaker 5 (59:11):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Two part answer here.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
First off, I was reading this article the other day
by a woman wrote it and she has one kid,
and she was saying how she feels like people with
only one kid are in a club of their own
because they're not accepted by the moms who have two plus,
because the two plus moms can't the struggle. They can't

(59:34):
I guess get down with the one kid moms because
they're like, well, you don't, you don't you don't really
understand how hard it was, And I I feel that
makes me feel sad that because there was a long
time where I was a kid, a mom with one kid,
and I thought it was hard.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
But that I think you're only there for a short
time compared to the ones who have one extended.

Speaker 8 (59:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
She said she felt like she wasn't welcome with the
two plus moms, and I'm like, oh, that means me
me feel sad.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
If you got a kid, you got a kid.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
There's hardships, yes, but I think what happens with the
one kid moms. I could be wrong, but they their
kid is a center of the universe for not just them,
like just them, but for everybody else. And I think
that's how they look at things. So it turns off
the two plus moms a lot as well.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
Which there's nothing against me, yeah nothing, that's the love
that you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Yes, yeah, yes, absolutely, And I think what's tough is
you know, I could have ended up being a one
kid mom, not because I wanted to be, but because
I had three miscarriages to get to my second kid.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
And you may have tried.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
I will say as a mom now with multiples. It's
the wild West out here. I don't know how you
guys survived it when they were all young. Well, it's
different now because they're older and they're self sufficient. But
like right now, a almost one year old and a
three year old, it's crazy. Yeah house, Like I can't
even tell you how crazy it is in that house.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
We actually forget, but then videos will pop up from
back that time. Oh my god, it was really hell
because I had a set of twins there too, so
the whole afternoon was complete chaotic.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
And You'll call me and like I'll be talking to
Santi and He'll just start dying laughing because I'm trying
to talk to him. I'm trying to mother at the
same like, there's it's never there's never a dull moment.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
In that house.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
But I like, I just I saw that there was
that narrative being pushed that this woman was just like
I don't feel accepted by the monster, And I'm like,
I would never make a mom of one feel like
that because you have a kid and you understand the struggles.
Having a kids different.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
It is different because the single child is probably going
to be spoiled and the single parent is going to
be spoiled from only having one child. That's again, that's
all you know, that's your universe, So you spoil that child,
because why not. When you have two children, I think
you understand how to like divide love and kind of
split responsibilities and kind of split your time, which makes

(01:01:46):
you a little bit more. I don't even know what
the word would be.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
I think I would say just like appreciative, put it
this way.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
I have had moments where I'm like, I want to
slap Ashley with one kid, who was like, this is
so hard. I can't figure this out because I I
see what I'm doing now, and I'm like, Ashley.

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
I mean the beauty of parenting. We get scared when
you first have your first child, even your second, or
even your third, because you're like, damn, how am I
going to have a third baby? All fourth or fifth?
But once you get into it, it becomes such an
instinctive thing that you just become naturally good at it.
My advice in this Dan and age, make sure you're
financially able to have two children, because children are expensive

(01:02:26):
and life is just getting harder and harder with how
just bills are just racking up. So if you can
afford to have a second child, I think take financial
into a big equation because you want to be able
to provide a life for your child that's safe, educational,
you know, they want them to develop properly and all
those things.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
So I also think if you're asking, that means that
you have the itch, that you're thinking about it, that
you want it. And I always wanted to because my
brother is literally one of my best friends, so that
was always something in my mind that I wanted. But
I think if you're thinking about it, then then you
kind to have your answer. And do you guys not
remember when I was pregnant with days and I would

(01:03:04):
say to you guys all the time, like, how am
I gonna love? Like I'm so obsessed, just like she was.
I'm so obsessed with Leila, Like I don't know how
you split. Your heart just gets bigger. Your heart literally
gets bigger. I couldn't envision it until it happened, and
then it's just, yeah, I honestly.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Think you should have a third I think it's amazing
the more you go, but you're looking at me, but
I feel like it would be the best thing, And
I understand the challenges that you face.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Yeah, I mean it like at this point, miscarriage layla
three miscarriages Daisy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I mean I feel like number one that's the biggest thing,
but number two almost wanted to be thirty nine O day.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
Aside from the age, well maybe I maybe the age
age is huge. Yes, it is big. It is big.
But if you knew for sure, no miscarriage would happen.
If you know, if I try, I'm gonna get pregnant
and everything will be fine. Would you have a third probably? Yeah.
I think that's what scares used, the fact.

Speaker 12 (01:03:59):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
I meant I cannot with my life right now and
how crazy it is with the two of I couldn't
handle it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
It'll be worse, it would be more insane. But I
will tell you in the long rum, when they're older,
it's the absolute.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
I have no one.

Speaker 12 (01:04:12):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
But because I'm damn near for four, yes, yes, with
that being said, when she.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
Has my sister as now, my sister is thirty four
and she's not my sister. Yeah, that's why. And her
kids is even worse. Gentle parents,