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May 8, 2025 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
A d Morning Plusin's number one for hip hop jam
in ninety four or five. Hi, everybody, good morning. It
is actually in the jam In Morning Show and we're
checking in on you.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
What's going on? Six one seven nine three one one
nine four five. We're going to Dedham first. My girl
Erica is checking in with us. Erica, you did Hi,
good morning you. You had messaged me early this morning
and you said, we got we got some stuff popping
off here outside of the courtroom.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
What's loop us in? What's happening today?

Speaker 4 (00:40):
So we're just trying to get a bigger crowd out
here in Denham. Last year, you know, there was a
lot more people outside here because of the buffer zone
and where we could stand and compared to where we
can now. And the state are really kind of busting
our balls this time around, even though there was no issues,
no arrests, nothing like that. But they're really I'm actually
I should be catching it this week. Supposedly I was

(01:01):
told for a sweatshirt that I wore, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
They told you guys you couldn't wear certain things. What
did your sweatshirt say?

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Criminals control in Norfolk County?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
These people are wild.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Doesn't say free carried, it doesn't say free terriabley. It
says criminals control Norfau County. I don't think that was
in any other paywork. Regardless if I catch a charge
them not, it's gonna you know, I'm not even gonna
talk anymore because I'm not going to give them my
play by play. But it's just it's become it really
has become an issue. So we're just trying to invite
more people out here. A lot of people that have
never been here don't know what it's like down here. Yeah,

(01:38):
you know, we're always welcoming. It's always a you know
what we're doing. It's always a decent time, you know
what I mean. It's we never have a bad time
down here. We're trying to make sure everybody feels welcome
and comfortable down here. It's not the easiest situation to
walk into, and I think a lot of people don't
know how to get off of their butt and do
something about it, you know what I mean. It's easy
to sit at home and complain behind here screen and

(02:00):
you know, your TV screen, but to get up and
do something that's a different you know, well, listen, a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Of people that listen to this show have been dialed
in because we are so now they are if they're listening,
and they have had that feeling of like, I want
to go down there, I want to support, but you know,
I'm nervous, Like you said, kind of walking up on
that might be a little intimidating.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Are you cool if when people get there they ask.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
For you, and then you can kind of bes if
you listen to the show.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
And you're a free careen reader and you want to
get down there.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
And be outside front and center instead of the corum,
you ask for Erica.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Mama Erica will show you the way she might get arrested. Well,
she's showing you, but she will help you.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
It'll be for nothing, crazy, I promise I will. I
know we appreciate everybody, and I know it's not easy
getting out here. I know a lot of people work,
and we have people that come out for twenty minutes
in the morning and go back to work and try
to come out in the afternoon. So it's kind of
an all day thing. People pop in and out. But yeah,
We're always welcome down here. If you can't just follow
along online, you know, there are many people screaming resistance

(02:58):
to silence. You have the alternate corner. They stream They
streamed the case as well, so you'll see us out
here in the morning streaming live on the street, and
then you'll see, you know, what's happening inside the courtroom
as well. So that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
And Erica, I know you and I discussed privately, but
the fellas don't know this, Erica, guys for the first
time inside.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
The courtroom, inside the courtroom.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, how'd you finesse that?

Speaker 5 (03:21):
How?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
And also how was that experience? Long sidebars?

Speaker 4 (03:25):
It was fantastic. It was great, It was it was
It is not as easy as people think. Obviously, it's
a long day. You have to sit there and listen
to people talk about, like, you know, things that you
might never have heard about before, Like I had a meteorologist.
I mean, I know what meteorology is, you know what
I'm saying, but like just stuff that may be boring,
you know what I mean, But it is. It's a
very interesting experience. My whole thing was I didn't finesse

(03:47):
anything by the way, so no, it reached out to
me and asked me if I would like to get
into the corum. I told her I'd be honored. You know,
I didn't have to message. I didn't have to harass
her parents or harass her family members or anything like that.
You know, I just come down here and I keep
my head down and I do what I have to
do because I believe in something, and that's all that
it comes down to at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Listen, if you're asking me, nobody deserves it more. You've
been a rider for her from from the very beginning,
and it only makes sense to me that you get
to go inside for a little bit. You made You
made that comment right there about it being boring FORID
and I were just kind of chatting about that. This
is it's I hate using that word, but like yesterday
for example, was a little was a little borings.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
And that's the thing, right, like we say it all
the time, like out of like such tragedy, like you know,
we never want to forget about this is all about
John O'Keefe, and I never want to say, you know,
and I never and a lot of people sensationalize that
a lot of people look at her as like she's
this celebrity and and I don't. I just never have.
I think it's unfair to do that. I think she's
a human being and she's fighting for her life. And again,
we can't have justice for John if we don't have

(04:49):
justice for Karen. At the end of the day. That's
my belief, right, that doesn't have to be everyone else's belief.
But at the end of the day, like he's never
going to get justice if we don't, you know, get
justice for her and figure out what the hell actually
happened here.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Big rumor everywhere online, we're all talking about it. I
guess it's been kind of hidden on when it could happen,
when it might happen.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Is it this week? Is it next week?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Any thoughts on Proctor, any word out there on the streets,
on the ground.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, I haven't, Honest to God, I haven't heard anything.
Even like last year, I feel like a last trial,
rather we had a witness list, and I feel like
they went in order, like we have a witness list,
but it's in alphabetical water. They haven't followed any guidelines.
It's really even being in there, even being in the courtroom,
Like I didn't know who was up next. I kind
of had an idea because we had seen people come

(05:36):
in through the pocket lot and stuff like that, right,
Like I had Guarino at one point, Yeah, I had,
you know, stuff like that. So like we had like
we we don't find out until the day of essentially,
So I think there's no doubt in my mind they're
gonna call him. They can't not call him. I think
Hank would be very stupid to not call him because
it'll just look foolish. They're just gonna call him anyways,

(05:57):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, no, for sure.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
All right, So if you're listening and you've been somebody thinking, man,
I want to go down there, but I'm a little nervous.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
I don't ask for Ericamerica.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, you you introduce and take care of our listeners
if they head on down there. Right.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Absolutely appreciate you guys, always thank you.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Thanks for the you too. Couldn't pay me to go
out there.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I'm not like this people pop in for twenty I
got back out of the things to do.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
But if you, if you want to, I support you.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
And then mistakenly with like a pink bowl and all
of a sudden, you're arrested.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
You can get arrested for that.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
How does that make any sense? I do remember, I
don't want it.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I don't want to misspeak here because I don't remember
the whole thing. But there was like you can't wear
free Karen read stuff. You can't wear certain things on
the shirt, which is doesn't like a j has a cricket.
She could go make us a shirt right now, we're
gonna get arrested outside the court.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
So whatever happened to free speech an expression?

Speaker 6 (06:51):
This isn't like a whole situation of like like whichever
side this is our free speech thing?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
You can't wear something that's just like.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
That's a little name.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Also, I had a listener hit me the other day
and she was on her way somewhere. She had to
go somewhere to Dedham, so she took the long way
to go past the courtroom and she's like, they're in
there now live and look how it's crickets outside. That
is how far Erica and all the Free Karen readers
have had to be be be moved. Because you know,
there were people were claiming there was the harassment stuff,

(07:20):
but also that the jurors could.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Hear them chancing from inside. It's just it's wild.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Erica sounds like the type that inside the courtroom she
was objecting from the back.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
She wants yeah, yeah, yeah. Erica's waking up every morning.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
She's making Karen read pp and J's and she's like,
here's some Stiggy snacks.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
If you need the money.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
She's going the sidebar six one seven.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Nine three one one nine four five six one seven
nine three one one nine.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Four five call us. We're talking about you, your life,
your world.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
We're checking in only on jam In. Good morning, good morning.
It's Ashley the jam In Morning Show. We're we're checking
in on you.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
How are you talking about anything you want? Six one
seven nine three one n That is six Oneha is
in her Good morning.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Good morning.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
How is everybody?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
How are we doing?

Speaker 7 (08:13):
We're doing good. We're working right now transporting. I'm called.
I'm a first time caller, and I just wanted to
give my mother and my sisters a shout out.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yes, let's do it.

Speaker 7 (08:25):
Shout out to Felicia Peaches and to Jay and Arilyn.
I'm super proud of you guys. I know times have
been rough, but it's all worth it in the end.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
We love you, Peaches.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Hey, first time caller, So I haven't been able to ask.
I'm assuming you listen to the show a good amount
during the week.

Speaker 8 (08:47):
I listened to the show every morning, every morning morning
cause I transport for work and I'm always listening to everything.
The Caroll Re trial.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
That's where I'm going to watch the news.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
But I've been dying to like watch the documentary that
they have going on right now.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
You need to, so just by listening to us and
getting the information from us and from Erica and Nick
Rocco and everything, what do you think did you do it?

Speaker 7 (09:12):
I don't think she did it. I don't think she
did it. Like listening to everything, it's just too much
extra stuff going on, you understand what I'm saying, Things
that they didn't mention.

Speaker 8 (09:24):
The whole her saying she hit him, she hit him,
she hit him.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
Just leads to like, you know, them lying, you know,
And it's just so convenient how everybody well one of
the people is retiring now, the guy who used the
red coats. Yeah, so I just think that that's so weird,
you know, I actually like that.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I think I think Alan Jackson would steal up from you.
He should just go up and be like, there's too
much extra stuff. I rest my case.

Speaker 7 (09:50):
Yeah, yeah, it's just so much in between.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (09:56):
It's in a courtroom. It's very black and white, you know,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (10:01):
So it's either she did it or she did it,
and all the details that I've been listening to.

Speaker 7 (10:06):
I don't think she did it. I think she's being
a friend for what she's doing.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Another question I like to ask people, but her first
time callers that you know have never been able to
chat with us before santi sexuality. Where are you at
with that, you know, especially after the conversation.

Speaker 7 (10:22):
I oh, no, he could be Honestly, he gives me
little quarts.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
I think he should.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
You know, there's some people who would.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Be like that.

Speaker 7 (10:34):
So Sanci is like that.

Speaker 8 (10:36):
I think he's a very we say this word is
falsly like he's very I guess you could say, I'm
going and like, I think he could talk to anybody
if you ask.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
Me, he could, he could, And I like that.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
My third and final question for you, do you think
a j will be alone for the rest of her life?

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Honestly, you know what you're dedicated.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
That's listen. I asked, because you said you listen.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Every day, and it's very clear that you do, and
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
She's sitting right.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Next to me.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
She shook her head too. She said maybe he said.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
One day might be dead. She's saying that.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
She's yelling thank you in the background. Hey, thank you
so much for the call. Thank you for listening.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
And now that you've called, you can call anytime you
want doors I'll.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
Call all the time. I'm a great bay guys.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
All right, you too, Notice how there's no questions about
me and Foreign, it's just you too.

Speaker 6 (11:43):
Well, what questions do they want to ask you?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Guys?

Speaker 6 (11:46):
You guys don't tell anything.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
What do you mean? I'm just kidding Foreign doesn't you?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Definitely one of us is the secret keeper.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I'm just not buying no single.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
I'm not sweet.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Bye? So which one am I.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Great?

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Great?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Six one seven nine three one one nine four five
six one seven nine three one one nine four five.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
We're talking about you, your life, your world.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Anything you want to call us and check in only
on Jeb ninety four five.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Hi, everybody, good morning. It's actually in the gem In
Morning show. We are checking in on you. Sorry, just
massive bout it though it was a little it was
hectic morning.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
What are you eating?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
So I'm fine, protein ball, all right, We're doing the
check in right now. We're checking in on you. This
is this is fantastic. Steven is in Maine.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Steve, what up?

Speaker 9 (12:42):
How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
So listen?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
What you're about to say is so unstocking to me,
But you you want to discuss Santi?

Speaker 3 (12:51):
You actually thought tell every.

Speaker 9 (12:53):
Doy we thought, well, I didn't think he was actually gay,
but I thought he was either confused or or my
or something.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (13:02):
You know, I've been listening to you guys probably six
seven years now. I drive drive a truck, so I'm
always always down this way. And yeah, just you know,
him talking about his fantasy is on walking girls around
and dog collars and stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Hart let's let's let's let's read it.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
That's uh, that's actually foreign who does that? But yeah,
you listen, you thinking Santi might be bisexual for the
past six years.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Stop thinking that.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
We've confirmed that, you know, and and and by the way,
confirmed it and support it. That's not anything that we've
ever hidden from anybody.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
We are.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
We are always.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Open to anything on this show, specifically you and your sexuality,
So let your freak flood.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
You know, Stephen couldn't agree more. Everybody lgb Q T
plus and us.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
At this point, it's hard to respond to any of
this because the more trying to defend it, the more
you guys double down.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'm not by I am straight. I'm very comfortable with
who I am.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
So let's pretend we're in debt him in court. Can
I play you with some audio?

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yes? I ain't day, but I like the fool of ren. Okay, okay, well,
what's the question? Oh this is oking?

Speaker 3 (14:19):
What did you mean by that statement?

Speaker 6 (14:21):
I meant that I'm very straight, but I sometimes like.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
To do like it.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Okay, I rest my case. I rest my case, Stephen.

Speaker 6 (14:32):
Thanks, it was gonna sound very odd.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Listen. I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I don't know why you get weird if foreign and
I aren't weird about it.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
I like to joke around that I like other men
like I don't know, yeah, your jokes.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Remember like the first time, just dating back to when
we knew that he was bisexual, which again we support,
was when he consistently for like five weeks in a row,
rushed out to hear and mean formally, be like, where
are you headed? And he's like, I have a work meeting,
A work meeting, a work meeting. And then we found
out that he was sharing one Panera bread bowl cheddar

(15:11):
broccoli soup with a man who also lays.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
With men, and we knew that it was something a
little more.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
That situation was different because I was honestly, my intentions
were business, but but he was seducing me. He was
seducing me, and I think for and you said that
he was grooming me, which is very true. I didn't
realize that it was like, you know.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
You were I get it, I get it, but always
embraceive that is yeah, yeah,
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