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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Check Dashy and the jam In Morning Show with d
J four and it's.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Sautikod Morning Bustin's number one for hip hop jam in
ninety four five.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hi everybody, good morning. We're doing the check in. What
the hell is up with you? How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You tell me about your life, your world, you know,
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Six one seven nine three one five and a six
one seven nine three one one four five. Alexandra is
in Rainom and going to scare the hell out of
me because nobody loves eating raw cookie though more than I.
Sometimes I'll keep that toll house tub of cookie dough
(00:44):
in my fridge and pretend like I'm going to make
something with it.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm not. I just want to take a bite of
the cookie dough, you know, for a sweet treat. What
what happened to you eating cookie dough?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
So I had left gymnastics with my daughter and I
ran in CBS and I saw some cookie though. I'm like, hmm,
that sounds good, and I took a little bite with
my finger and my tongue started getting tingly. So I
turn it around and there's only six ingredients and one
of them is cashews. I'm like, great, So I have
(01:16):
my four year old in the car, I'm buckler, I
going CBS. I don't have my ID. I needed Bena
dry as soon as possible. The guy goes, oh, I'm
gonna need to see your idea. I'm like, no, you're not,
because I need this and I'm taking this right now.
I'll give you the money I need to go. So
I debated pulling in the Bridgewater pre station, but I
did end up at the hospital about forty five minutes later,
(01:37):
and it was a it was a whole scene. It
was probably one of the scariest times of my life,
that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
What was a four year old doing? Probably losing their mind?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Oh yeah. She kept talking to me.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
She's like, momma, are you okay?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
And moment you need a son? I said, ari, yell,
it's an emergency. I can't talk to you right now,
but I's gonna be okay. You know, so you're you're.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Extremely allergic to cashews cashew nuts.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yes, yep, wow, and you have And now I realize, yes,
I had no idea. Now I'm checking everything. When you
have a.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Reaction like that, what happens, And I said, your tongue
was like itching. Do you completely swell up?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
So at first I thought I was okay. I even
went home, I took the shower. Usually I'm all right,
I just can take advantag, drill and go on with
the day. But this time my chest was super heavy.
It felt like I had two golf balls in my throat,
and I started to get really nervous. I'm like, oh, yeah,
I get to go to the hospital right now.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Damn, I feel like with a severe allergy, Like now
you need to truck the label.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I know, I know. Right from now on, I'm checking everything.
I'm not playing around.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Well, let me tell you something. That cookie do calls
to me too, honey. It calls to me, So I
get it. I get it. Certainly not worth a hospital visit,
but I'm glad you're okay. Thank you, thank you, You're welcome.
Thanks for the call.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
The guy who delivered my furniture last week had the
same reaction to my cat soon as he walked in,
so it wasn't even like let's talk for one minute.
As soon as he walked in, he was like, you
got a cat, don't you.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
I was like, yep.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
All of a sudden, his face is turning red. Throw
this closing up. Still deliver the furniture, though, I gotta
give him credit. And then outside, bro, he was heaving
because he was trying to like like vomit, to try
to trying to live, trying to open the show back up. Yo.
He's like yo, everything was closing up on him. And
I'm like, Yo, You're gonna be good? Like Am I
going to be on the news because a dude died
(03:29):
delivering my furniture? That is, if you got serious reactions.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
I was going to say.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Some people have like it's it's my uncle got attracked
by bees once and had like a legit Thomas, like.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Thomas j Ude. Well, now I want to quit because
now I'm thinking about Thomas j.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
For a mood ring like shit made him feel like
he had to go back in there for a mood ring.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Gone dun all.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Right six one seven nine nine four five six one
seven nine three one one nine four five.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
We're talking about your life, your world. Anything you want
call us and check in.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Rip to Thomas j Sorry for ruining your deck. Hi, everybody,
Good morning, Sashly and the jam In Morning Show. We
are doing the check in right now. We're talking about, honestly,
whatever the hell you want, whatever's going on with you?
Six one seven nine three one one nine four five.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Kim is in lesser Kim.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
We were chatting about cookie dough, and you know, they
actually make cookie dough that you can eat raw now
in the grocery stores.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
But I'm still going straight up, I might die totally.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I've seen it and I've tried it. It's not as good, of.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Course, it's not like colors.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I I literally will go and buy that, I'm not
kidding that tub and just put it in the fridge
every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's a little sweet treat. Uh you were you heard
that and it was reminded you of when you were
a kid?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Kid?
Speaker 5 (04:59):
What would you do anytime that?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
My mom thought, But you know, the big stick of
the cookie do when we were kids. It's not a toad.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
It was a stick.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
And I would hide in the dryer and I would
eat the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Oh, they lie, because you're not dead. My mom would say,
you're gonna die. You're gonna get e coli. You're gonna die.
You can be eating on that raw cookie dough.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You're still kicking here.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I am here.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I am all right, Caim. Thanks for the call. That
obviously scares me, though, I don't want to think about
the kids in the dryer.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
Yeah, like that's really bad if somebody started.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That healthy cook Notice how Santi can't join in on
the convo about like little sweet treats and stuff because
he doesn't have anything, Like he's just staring at me like, oh,
people eat that, that's crazy. Yeah. So this so there's
this thing called cookie dough and it's raw and you
can then put it in the oven and it bakes cookies.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
I've seen it and I've heard people talk about it,
but I've never partaken. Delicious.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Mike is a Nashville Mike. Good morning, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Well? I wanted to well, first off, happy to lay
a birthday to the show.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
And I'm one of the original listeners from twenty twenty.
So I was going to work in the pandemic, being
the engineer that I do, and you know, there's nobody
on the road and it's just like a hot mile
in front of me, hot mile back me going up
ninety threen north and you know, just got me through
(06:32):
to the pandemic. So I appreciate you, and you know
you made it through with these Julians, Santi and foreign
so propse you guys, and just wanted to say thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Oh that's really nice, Mike, thank you so much for
the call. I appreciate it. When we really take a
step back and we all know, I get I started
to get upset about this. But when we take a
step back and really look at what twenty twenty was,
it's crazy. Like it is crazy times in which we
(07:05):
lived flappable now because I don't think that if it
came back, they could, they would do it would be
able to happen again.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I think people would literally, Like I was just having.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
This conversation with somebody and their big church going They
were like, yo, church was closed, bro, Like you couldn't
go anywhere, like and we were we both went how
did they get away with that?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
How did they get away with shutting down God like everything?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Like just every you couldn't go nowhere, that was wild time.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
No, no, you could go, but you had to wear
a mask to your seat and then once your Coca
cola came out, you took your mask off. You could
eat and drink and then when you got up to
the bathroom to put it back on after we had
all just taken them off to eat together.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
But in the beginning those were even like that was open.
Everybody was shut down, noting the zoom parties, all those.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Things six feet apart, they say, some stars that have
those sounds on the floor.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
All the arrows and the roboto and no, I get
so upset when I think about it.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
But again, I I stand on that.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I really think that if they were like, we're shutting
the world down again for two weeks, people will be like, no,
you're not.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, especially not if it was something like COVID. Yeah,
busy bowla, maybe the world's shut.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Down again, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think for that Yeah, And I think if you know,
and I'm not talking about like senior citizen homes and
that's I think that's different. But I don't I don't
think it would have the same effect at all.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I mean, you guys made me get the vaccine and
all that stuff, like Jesus, yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
See what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. Don't
even give me.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Once twenty twenty gets mentioned, I immediately get pissed off.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It's not Nick is in Boston. Hei, Nick, good morning.
Oh damn, we just dropped him.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
But Nick was saying that he he watched the documentary
on Karen Reid The Body in the Snow on HBO
and it changed his mind. I'll have to ask for
him when he getsuf the phone which which way he's
leaning out.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
But yeah, that's what you started, started it last night.
And let me tell you, like you you understand like
both sides of it, right. But I don't think this
documentary paints her in a good way, in the sense
of like it almost makes her not likable. And this
is from the documentary's view point of at all. But
again I'm only from her, yeah view, which is an
interesting I am learning other things about all sorts of stuff.
(09:21):
I'm learning more about John O'Keefe and his family, and
then in the whole dynamic of the whole thing, I
will say their relationship was not good and I forgot
about that.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
There is a scene where she talks about how like
after she found out John was dead and she was
on like a psychhold and they went back to John's
house to like see the niece and nephew and John's
family was there, and she said she immediately got a
vibe of like I shouldn't be here, and she left
and it was like in that moment that things changed
(09:50):
where they were like, well, wait a second, maybe you.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Did hit him.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, a lot of people are saying that a lot
of people feel like the doc is not helping her
in a sense that it's making her unlikable.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Again, he dropped that nick guy. But what was he saying?
Is he on a difference?
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Just asking He was just asking if it changed that
opinion on how we felt about it. I'm gonna say
the first time, I think they dropped well three episodes
or two episodes at first, and I was like, Yo,
she's smiling too much, way too much, Like she seemed happy,
you know what I mean? For someone again, I would
assume that I'm going under a lot of stress, but
she's been around for years. Then at the end the
Verdict show, which is the last episode, when they come
(10:26):
back with a verdict and things are going on, and
she breaks down. Even her lawyer says, yo, this is
the first time I'm seeing you like break down like this,
Like I've never seen you break down like this before.
Because you've all been so like stand you know, you're
standing up tall, and this is the first time I've
seen you really really break down to me. To kind
of Santi's point, if you're watching this, you're on the fence,
so maybe you're leaning towards she did it. It's not
(10:46):
a good look to see so many teeth brot Ye.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
By the way, Alan Jackson at one point tells her
that that you know, everything she does matters in the
courtroom and how she appears and her demean her and
things like that, like her showing me what's inside her closet.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
How is that necessary?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
What is this?
Speaker 7 (11:08):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's been very interesting also to watch it with the
fireman who knows nothing. He doesn't try to research it,
he doesn't care. He only knows if I come home
and I'm like, oh, somebody called me and you know
what today, because I.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
He thinks that he thinks that she, uh, she did.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, he leans that way after watches, but he also
is on the other side of like, but man, they
made so many mistakes.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
So the conversation with the director of the show, and
she said that that one of the big important things
was to keep Okee's name, you know, bring it back
up because she felt like it got lost. But she said,
we try to be as neutral as possible, to try
to show both sides as much as we could, and
of course highlight the fact that you know, the officer died,
and yeah, people are not talking about that as much.
(11:52):
But yeah, I don't know if you were leaning on it,
you you would look at it and be like, I
don't like the way she's so happy, like you shouldn't be,
which is sad.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I want to talk to Nick.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's coming back on Friday, and I want to ask
Nick a little bit more about the tail light because
I think in the dock they really highlighted that. So
the Canon police when they went to thirty four Fairview
and they did their initial investigation use a leaf blower
to move the snow a little bit, didn't see any
fragments of the tail light. Then they were like, okay,
this is a homicide. We have to send in the
big dogs. They send in the big dogs. They find
(12:22):
a ton of tail light pieces fragments. They also find
his other shoe. Mind you, the shoe thing was crazy
because the fireman was like, you know, we respond to
a lot of car accidents where people and he goes,
they always get knocked out of their shoes, So.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
That was interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
By the way, then, remember Karen says that her tail
light was cracked because when she pulled out of John's driveway,
she hit the other car, and we have that on
ring camera footage. But when police went to check that
other car, they found that a singular piece of her
tail light.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
So if she cracked her tail light that bad when
she was pulling out of the driveway, there should be something.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I think the theory was that she cracked it when
she backed into the car. This is the defense that
she cracked it when she backed into the car and
then it kind of like fell apart going back. And yes, exactly, I.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Want to ask Nick about that because that's interesting because
you would think that I get what you're saying, but
you would think there would be something, even a spec.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Of But I've seen that. I've seen that way you
can back into a car and it just it just cracks.
It just cracks. And yes, that piece can be in
there just loose, just moving around. You hit a bump,
you do something, it falls out the car. Now you
got a hole.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (13:32):
I mean, but for the most part it can still
look intact. You just see the little craft seeing that
multiple times, so it's not but.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
No marking on the other car at all.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
I wouldn't see because again it's plastic, so it's not
like glass. Glass would shadow and you'd see a piece
of it. Plastic can crack and still stay there, you
know what I mean, just kind of lucy or moved
around and then eventually fall out of.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
The tail light. Stuff is interesting because especially with.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
That they say it was in the close.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
I never remember that in the in the in the courts.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I do. I actually remember that fragments of it. And
but again, it so strange to me that the Camton
police found nothing and then when these guys went back
they found it. It's just again that that's why it's
so if you can see both sides to this.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Also, you forget the Canton police loved to drink and
drive too. That was something that made very very fair
in the dock love it.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
They must think they drive better. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
It was crazy. She was driving with ad soda in
the car too.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
How about in the dock she details how many drinks
she had that night. I was like she was like, yeah,
so I got this shot. I poured this shot into
that glass and then that was already a double So
then that was four and then five.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
That's a situation where I think this was bad for
her to go on there. Now you lost control of
the whole story, in the emotion behind. Now you're giving
people an opinion on either side, and I don't think
it's where it's where it's working.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
On well for her. I'm watching this thing like every day.
Yesterday they the government is really trying to include the
dock pieces of the dock. They shouted that. The judge said,
na I can't give you that, but they were really like, yo,
she's self incriminating herself and we want to use understand that. Yeah,
And the judge was like, nah, I can't do.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
That because she does say in it. You know, at
first I got home and I was like, did I
do this?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Did I do this? That's another huge part.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
All the you know, the fire guys, the the amts,
they're all like, she's out here screaming, I hit him,
I hit him, I hit him. But then not a
singular one of you write that in the report that
she said that it's like, it's it's so crazy again.
She was in court yesterday. I know one thing that
stood out to me is the judge Canoni.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Bev. Judge Bev Canoni, Yeah, yeah, Bev.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
She was like, it is going to be close to
impossible for us to get this new jury. I don't
know how we're going to do it. Because again, whether
you know the details the inner workings of this case,
you've at least heard of it, you've probably made some
sort of decision in your head either way. So for them,
you know, for them to try to find a jury
of our peers that know nothing is going to be
(15:57):
damn near impossible. But we did text with Nick Nick's
he'll come on on Friday.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
We'll do it at.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Seven, talk about you know what happened in court on Tuesday,
talk about Jackie Dougal coming on last week, and talk
about just the doc as a whole and what he
thinks and how that all has played out for Karen
over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Because obviously we know they've been in touch. If we
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Sautikod Morning Bustin's number one for hip hop jam in
ninety four five.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hi everybody, good morning. We're doing the check in. What
the hell is up with you? How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You tell me about your life, your world, you know,
common or anything we've talked about thus far.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Anything you want, It's up to you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Six one seven nine three one five and a six
one seven nine three one one four five. Alexandra is
in Rainom and going to scare the hell out of
me because nobody loves eating raw cookie though more than I.
Sometimes I'll keep that toll house tub of cookie dough
(00:44):
in my fridge and pretend like I'm going to make
something with it.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm not. I just want to take a bite of
the cookie dough, you know, for a sweet treat. What
what happened to you eating cookie dough?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
So I had left gymnastics with my daughter and I
ran in CBS and I saw some cookie though. I'm like, hmm,
that sounds good, and I took a little bite with
my finger and my tongue started getting tingly. So I
turn it around and there's only six ingredients and one
of them is cashews. I'm like, great, So I have
(01:16):
my four year old in the car, I'm buckler, I
going CBS. I don't have my ID. I needed Bena
dry as soon as possible. The guy goes, oh, I'm
gonna need to see your idea. I'm like, no, you're not,
because I need this and I'm taking this right now.
I'll give you the money I need to go. So
I debated pulling in the Bridgewater pre station, but I
did end up at the hospital about forty five minutes later,
(01:37):
and it was a it was a whole scene. It
was probably one of the scariest times of my life,
that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
What was a four year old doing? Probably losing their mind?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Oh yeah. She kept talking to me.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
She's like, momma, are you okay?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
And moment you need a son? I said, ari, yell,
it's an emergency. I can't talk to you right now,
but I's gonna be okay. You know, so you're you're.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Extremely allergic to cashews cashew nuts.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yes, yep, wow, and you have And now I realize, yes,
I had no idea. Now I'm checking everything. When you
have a.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Reaction like that, what happens, And I said, your tongue
was like itching. Do you completely swell up?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
So at first I thought I was okay. I even
went home, I took the shower. Usually I'm all right,
I just can take advantag, drill and go on with
the day. But this time my chest was super heavy.
It felt like I had two golf balls in my throat,
and I started to get really nervous. I'm like, oh, yeah,
I get to go to the hospital right now.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Damn, I feel like with a severe allergy, Like now
you need to truck the label.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I know, I know. Right from now on, I'm checking everything.
I'm not playing around.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Well, let me tell you something. That cookie do calls
to me too, honey. It calls to me, So I
get it. I get it. Certainly not worth a hospital visit,
but I'm glad you're okay. Thank you, thank you, You're welcome.
Thanks for the call.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
The guy who delivered my furniture last week had the
same reaction to my cat soon as he walked in,
so it wasn't even like let's talk for one minute.
As soon as he walked in, he was like, you
got a cat, don't you.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
I was like, yep.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
All of a sudden, his face is turning red. Throw
this closing up. Still deliver the furniture, though, I gotta
give him credit. And then outside, bro, he was heaving
because he was trying to like like vomit, to try
to trying to live, trying to open the show back up. Yo.
He's like yo, everything was closing up on him. And
I'm like, Yo, You're gonna be good? Like Am I
going to be on the news because a dude died
(03:29):
delivering my furniture? That is, if you got serious reactions.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
I was going to say.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Some people have like it's it's my uncle got attracked
by bees once and had like a legit Thomas, like.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Thomas j Ude. Well, now I want to quit because
now I'm thinking about Thomas j.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
For a mood ring like shit made him feel like
he had to go back in there for a mood ring.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Gone dun all.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Right six one seven nine nine four five six one
seven nine three one one nine four five.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
We're talking about your life, your world. Anything you want
call us and check in.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Rip to Thomas j Sorry for ruining your deck. Hi, everybody,
Good morning, Sashly and the jam In Morning Show. We
are doing the check in right now. We're talking about, honestly,
whatever the hell you want, whatever's going on with you?
Six one seven nine three one one nine four five.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Kim is in lesser Kim.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
We were chatting about cookie dough, and you know, they
actually make cookie dough that you can eat raw now
in the grocery stores.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
But I'm still going straight up, I might die totally.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I've seen it and I've tried it. It's not as good, of.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Course, it's not like colors.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I I literally will go and buy that, I'm not
kidding that tub and just put it in the fridge
every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's a little sweet treat. Uh you were you heard
that and it was reminded you of when you were
a kid?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Kid?
Speaker 5 (04:59):
What would you do anytime that?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
My mom thought, But you know, the big stick of
the cookie do when we were kids. It's not a toad.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
It was a stick.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
And I would hide in the dryer and I would
eat the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Oh, they lie, because you're not dead. My mom would say,
you're gonna die. You're gonna get e coli. You're gonna die.
You can be eating on that raw cookie dough.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You're still kicking here.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I am here.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I am all right, Caim. Thanks for the call. That
obviously scares me, though, I don't want to think about
the kids in the dryer.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
Yeah, like that's really bad if somebody started.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That healthy cook Notice how Santi can't join in on
the convo about like little sweet treats and stuff because
he doesn't have anything, Like he's just staring at me like, oh,
people eat that, that's crazy. Yeah. So this so there's
this thing called cookie dough and it's raw and you
can then put it in the oven and it bakes cookies.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
I've seen it and I've heard people talk about it,
but I've never partaken. Delicious.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Mike is a Nashville Mike. Good morning, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Well? I wanted to well, first off, happy to lay
a birthday to the show.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
And I'm one of the original listeners from twenty twenty.
So I was going to work in the pandemic, being
the engineer that I do, and you know, there's nobody
on the road and it's just like a hot mile
in front of me, hot mile back me going up
ninety threen north and you know, just got me through
(06:32):
to the pandemic. So I appreciate you, and you know
you made it through with these Julians, Santi and foreign
so propse you guys, and just wanted to say thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Oh that's really nice, Mike, thank you so much for
the call. I appreciate it. When we really take a
step back and we all know, I get I started
to get upset about this. But when we take a
step back and really look at what twenty twenty was,
it's crazy. Like it is crazy times in which we
(07:05):
lived flappable now because I don't think that if it
came back, they could, they would do it would be
able to happen again.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I think people would literally, Like I was just having.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
This conversation with somebody and their big church going They
were like, yo, church was closed, bro, Like you couldn't
go anywhere, like and we were we both went how
did they get away with that?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
How did they get away with shutting down God like everything?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Like just every you couldn't go nowhere, that was wild time.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
No, no, you could go, but you had to wear
a mask to your seat and then once your Coca
cola came out, you took your mask off. You could
eat and drink and then when you got up to
the bathroom to put it back on after we had
all just taken them off to eat together.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
But in the beginning those were even like that was open.
Everybody was shut down, noting the zoom parties, all those.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Things six feet apart, they say, some stars that have
those sounds on the floor.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
All the arrows and the roboto and no, I get
so upset when I think about it.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
But again, I I stand on that.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I really think that if they were like, we're shutting
the world down again for two weeks, people will be like, no,
you're not.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, especially not if it was something like COVID. Yeah,
busy bowla, maybe the world's shut.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Down again, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think for that Yeah, And I think if you know,
and I'm not talking about like senior citizen homes and
that's I think that's different. But I don't I don't
think it would have the same effect at all.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I mean, you guys made me get the vaccine and
all that stuff, like Jesus, yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
See what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. Don't
even give me.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Once twenty twenty gets mentioned, I immediately get pissed off.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It's not Nick is in Boston. Hei, Nick, good morning.
Oh damn, we just dropped him.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
But Nick was saying that he he watched the documentary
on Karen Reid The Body in the Snow on HBO
and it changed his mind. I'll have to ask for
him when he getsuf the phone which which way he's
leaning out.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
But yeah, that's what you started, started it last night.
And let me tell you, like you you understand like
both sides of it, right. But I don't think this
documentary paints her in a good way, in the sense
of like it almost makes her not likable. And this
is from the documentary's view point of at all. But
again I'm only from her, yeah view, which is an
interesting I am learning other things about all sorts of stuff.
(09:21):
I'm learning more about John O'Keefe and his family, and
then in the whole dynamic of the whole thing, I
will say their relationship was not good and I forgot
about that.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
There is a scene where she talks about how like
after she found out John was dead and she was
on like a psychhold and they went back to John's
house to like see the niece and nephew and John's
family was there, and she said she immediately got a
vibe of like I shouldn't be here, and she left
and it was like in that moment that things changed
(09:50):
where they were like, well, wait a second, maybe you.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Did hit him.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, a lot of people are saying that a lot
of people feel like the doc is not helping her
in a sense that it's making her unlikable.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Again, he dropped that nick guy. But what was he saying?
Is he on a difference?
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Just asking He was just asking if it changed that
opinion on how we felt about it. I'm gonna say
the first time, I think they dropped well three episodes
or two episodes at first, and I was like, Yo,
she's smiling too much, way too much, Like she seemed happy,
you know what I mean? For someone again, I would
assume that I'm going under a lot of stress, but
she's been around for years. Then at the end the
Verdict show, which is the last episode, when they come
(10:26):
back with a verdict and things are going on, and
she breaks down. Even her lawyer says, yo, this is
the first time I'm seeing you like break down like this,
Like I've never seen you break down like this before.
Because you've all been so like stand you know, you're
standing up tall, and this is the first time I've
seen you really really break down to me. To kind
of Santi's point, if you're watching this, you're on the fence,
so maybe you're leaning towards she did it. It's not
(10:46):
a good look to see so many teeth brot Ye.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
By the way, Alan Jackson at one point tells her
that that you know, everything she does matters in the
courtroom and how she appears and her demean her and
things like that, like her showing me what's inside her closet.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
How is that necessary?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
What is this?
Speaker 7 (11:08):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's been very interesting also to watch it with the
fireman who knows nothing. He doesn't try to research it,
he doesn't care. He only knows if I come home
and I'm like, oh, somebody called me and you know
what today, because I.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
He thinks that he thinks that she, uh, she did.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, he leans that way after watches, but he also
is on the other side of like, but man, they
made so many mistakes.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
So the conversation with the director of the show, and
she said that that one of the big important things
was to keep Okee's name, you know, bring it back
up because she felt like it got lost. But she said,
we try to be as neutral as possible, to try
to show both sides as much as we could, and
of course highlight the fact that you know, the officer died,
and yeah, people are not talking about that as much.
(11:52):
But yeah, I don't know if you were leaning on it,
you you would look at it and be like, I
don't like the way she's so happy, like you shouldn't be,
which is sad.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I want to talk to Nick.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's coming back on Friday, and I want to ask
Nick a little bit more about the tail light because
I think in the dock they really highlighted that. So
the Canon police when they went to thirty four Fairview
and they did their initial investigation use a leaf blower
to move the snow a little bit, didn't see any
fragments of the tail light. Then they were like, okay,
this is a homicide. We have to send in the
big dogs. They send in the big dogs. They find
(12:22):
a ton of tail light pieces fragments. They also find
his other shoe. Mind you, the shoe thing was crazy
because the fireman was like, you know, we respond to
a lot of car accidents where people and he goes,
they always get knocked out of their shoes, So.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
That was interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
By the way, then, remember Karen says that her tail
light was cracked because when she pulled out of John's driveway,
she hit the other car, and we have that on
ring camera footage. But when police went to check that
other car, they found that a singular piece of her
tail light.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
So if she cracked her tail light that bad when
she was pulling out of the driveway, there should be something.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I think the theory was that she cracked it when
she backed into the car. This is the defense that
she cracked it when she backed into the car and
then it kind of like fell apart going back. And yes, exactly, I.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Want to ask Nick about that because that's interesting because
you would think that I get what you're saying, but
you would think there would be something, even a spec.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Of But I've seen that. I've seen that way you
can back into a car and it just it just cracks.
It just cracks. And yes, that piece can be in
there just loose, just moving around. You hit a bump,
you do something, it falls out the car. Now you
got a hole.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (13:32):
I mean, but for the most part it can still
look intact. You just see the little craft seeing that
multiple times, so it's not but.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
No marking on the other car at all.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
I wouldn't see because again it's plastic, so it's not
like glass. Glass would shadow and you'd see a piece
of it. Plastic can crack and still stay there, you
know what I mean, just kind of lucy or moved
around and then eventually fall out of.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
The tail light. Stuff is interesting because especially with.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
That they say it was in the close.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
I never remember that in the in the in the courts.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I do. I actually remember that fragments of it. And
but again, it so strange to me that the Camton
police found nothing and then when these guys went back
they found it. It's just again that that's why it's
so if you can see both sides to this.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Also, you forget the Canton police loved to drink and
drive too. That was something that made very very fair
in the dock love it.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
They must think they drive better. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
It was crazy. She was driving with ad soda in
the car too.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
How about in the dock she details how many drinks
she had that night. I was like she was like, yeah,
so I got this shot. I poured this shot into
that glass and then that was already a double So
then that was four and then five.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
That's a situation where I think this was bad for
her to go on there. Now you lost control of
the whole story, in the emotion behind. Now you're giving
people an opinion on either side, and I don't think
it's where it's where it's working.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
On well for her. I'm watching this thing like every day.
Yesterday they the government is really trying to include the
dock pieces of the dock. They shouted that. The judge said,
na I can't give you that, but they were really like, yo,
she's self incriminating herself and we want to use understand that. Yeah,
And the judge was like, nah, I can't do.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
That because she does say in it. You know, at
first I got home and I was like, did I
do this?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Did I do this? That's another huge part.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
All the you know, the fire guys, the the amts,
they're all like, she's out here screaming, I hit him,
I hit him, I hit him. But then not a
singular one of you write that in the report that
she said that it's like, it's it's so crazy again.
She was in court yesterday. I know one thing that
stood out to me is the judge Canoni.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Bev. Judge Bev Canoni, Yeah, yeah, Bev.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
She was like, it is going to be close to
impossible for us to get this new jury. I don't
know how we're going to do it. Because again, whether
you know the details the inner workings of this case,
you've at least heard of it, you've probably made some
sort of decision in your head either way. So for them,
you know, for them to try to find a jury
of our peers that know nothing is going to be
(15:57):
damn near impossible. But we did text with Nick Nick's
he'll come on on Friday.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
We'll do it at.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Seven, talk about you know what happened in court on Tuesday,
talk about Jackie Dougal coming on last week, and talk
about just the doc as a whole and what he
thinks and how that all has played out for Karen
over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Because obviously we know they've been in touch. If we
missed anything, you can always follow us on
Speaker 2 (16:23):
The gram at Ashley and them two ease on the
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