November 7, 2025 • 22 mins
We break down a pair of tracks from a relatively unknown but charismatic Queens, New York-based rapped called Young Cardamom.
This Indian-American emcee dropped a flurry of songs with great-looking visuals about a decade ago. Two, in particular, “#1 Spice” and “Nani,” caught our attention this week.
But it’s been years since Young Cardamom released any new music. What happened to him?
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This Indian-American emcee dropped a flurry of songs with great-looking visuals about a decade ago. Two, in particular, “#1 Spice” and “Nani,” caught our attention this week.
But it’s been years since Young Cardamom released any new music. What happened to him?
Tell us about your first listen @AtFirstListenPodcast on Instagram!
Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome to at First Listen To Music podcast for people
who don't always get the hype but want to. I'm Andrew,
I'm Dominique.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And today we're covering New York's hottest new rapper.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Also known as the Mayor elect of New York City.
Very excited.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, mom, Donnie was a rapper or is a rapper?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Do you ever stop being a rapper?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Like a like a Marines type of thing.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, it's like, I'm an artist. I'm always going to
be an artist. I I didn't want to talk about
this or I didn't really want to think about his
rap career while he was running because I thought that
that wasn't helping. Yeah, because of that, that was basically
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I mean, a Muslim is scary enough.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Exactly a rapper and rappers are basically known as like not.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
There is we agree as a society that rappers are
very scary.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah. The branding, and I think this is in large
part because of you know, the racism and the establishment,
But the branding tends to be associated with criminality oftentimes.
I do not think that that is the vibe that
he gives at all.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So there are a shocking number of music videos on
YouTube of the artist young Cardo Mom. Most of them
are from about nine eight or nine years old.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I think he was really hitting it hard about in
twenty in what was it, twenty eighteen sixteen ish?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, so he's about twenty five. He looks exactly the
same he looks. He's in a suit in a lot
of the music videos.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's about as mayoral of a music career as you
could possibly get. It's it's Disney's sponsored by Disney, like
one of the biggest music videos. I I can't I
honestly think there is. It's completely congruous with his current image.
Like it it's it seems like a mayor making a
(02:32):
music video. It doesn't seem like a rapper vibe at all.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, it's something else. It's a little bit something else.
So this song that we're gonna preview for you now
is called Number one Spice. This is from the soundtrack
of a film called Queen of Catway starring zo Ron
Mundatti's dear friend Lupita Niongo Wait, a Hademy Award winning actress.
(03:02):
So I can't figure out was he doing this rap
career because of this film that he was somehow involved
in I think he was an assistant director on the movie.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
To me, it seems like he was already kind of
having these ideas to do a rap career. He was
probably freestyling with the homies, and his mom has a
production company. He is great at making visuals and videos,
(03:37):
and he has all these friends. I mean, were we
not all like trying to have music videos in twenty sixteen?
We were all trying to do this at twenty sixteen,
he was he was not unique in this way, and
then it just kind of came together. To me, that's
what it looks like that it all kind of came together,
(03:57):
and then he got some funding for an actual, like
cool project.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
All right, let's take a listen to part of Number
one Spice, and then I'm gonna explain why I have
such a big problem with all this.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Was it num Spice?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Was it number Spice?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Everyone's favorite African American? Zoron quame mom Donnie.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Be Asian American?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well it it's the meme because he marked African American. No,
so so untrue. He's he is African American in that
he's from Uganda, and he is.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
American where he was born.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
He's from Africa and but and he marked that on
his on like college application. Did you not hear about
this news? This was like a thing they'd used to
try to discredit him, that it was a big gotcha thing.
It was very birth certificate vibes. It was like he
marked African American on like a college applic cation, and
(05:01):
everybody was like, he's trying to say that he tried
to base to claim that he's African American, and obviously
he's that that signifies a certain identity. That he is
not African American does not mean a guy who was
(05:22):
born in Africa and then lives in America. It's people
who are from America and who are black. And so
it was trying to be like, oh, it was trying
to basically be like, hey, black people, you should not
trust this guy. It's the same thing with like taking
your affirmative action. That was the vibe the affirmative action
that they hate and that they got rid of. And
(05:43):
it's like it was the same thing of like, oh,
he's in a rent control department and he is and
he goes to a nice restaurant. He's he's bad, he's
a Nepo baby, and everybody else is like we all
do they he still pays a lot of money for rent.
It's not cheap anyway. So that's why I made the
(06:08):
joke African American. So we got two most famous African
Americans right now, are Zo ron Mondani and Elon Musk.
Shout out all.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Right anyway, But so my problem with this is that
it's quite.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Good, okay, clickbait, and.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It kind of slaps and the one thing I will
say is that he definitely cannot dance, and that is
a parent in all of his music videos.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Another very very mayoral vibe.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't build a Blasio dude.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, yeah, we don't need, we don't need. I honestly
feel like this is a crazy take, but one of
dancers ever been the people that we're like looking to
for for.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Like now, you can't lead the free world with hip mobility.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
No exactly, I mean I think I mean Brown comes
to mind as someone who is a really amazing dancer
and bad at every other.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Have something here, Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, doja cat also all over the place.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Elvis Presley, It's like, stick to the.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Moves, move your hips, don't move your lips.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, Elvis Presley, was it he offered to be an
informant for Nixon.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well, also he married a child.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Well a lot of them do that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But he he he he also did it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Did we mention Michael Jackson? Yeah we did.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah. So yeah, So I in in that way, the
precise corniness of it, the where this music lands on good.
I think the music is good.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I think there's a lot content about and related to food.
And I don't understand, Like there's another music video. H
since we've talked a lot, let's play a clip from Nanny.
(08:09):
So that's the song for which there's a music video.
And he and a bunch of other people are in
a halal cart and in one of the scenes he
is shirtless wearing an apron in the halal cart. He
was asked if there was one thing he could delete
from the Internet, what would it be, And it was
that scene in the music video, I will say, and
(08:30):
we're going back to food. So it's like somewhere between
like Weird Al Yankovic and Big Shack.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
There is not a more New York guy than this.
Like he is an Indian guy from Uganda who grew
up in New York. He I don't know what his
connection to Halal carts is. Yeah, he's Indian Muslim guy,
(08:58):
I mean right, his family is Muslim. Like that is
the most New York story ever that.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Is a Muslim because we're supposed to be afraid of that.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I know. I'm like, is he even I'm that's actually
it just occurred to me that like.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
He was that just the thing people were saying.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, it's like he's brown and he's not from South America,
so he's clearly Muslim.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
What would be the most terrifying thing he could be?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, he is a moss of So mister.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Carter Mom on YouTube has a little over ten thousand subscribers.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, and wow, ten thousand, but he has like almost
a million views on a lot of these videos and
he you know, it's number one spice cardamom. And then
this other one is about a grandma, Like it is
the most wholesome. This is very much I'm like, did
Obama create him? This is like Obama what I feel
(09:54):
like Obama would have done if he could like do
it again, Yeah, and like a better.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Rather rather than not inhaling that pot, he would have
been making.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Rapid Yes, well it's like this is this is like that.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Was like the wild thing Obama did was not inhale marijuana.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, and also be secret Muslim from Kenya. No, also
have a middle name that everyone was confused by. But
I I feel like it's like Obama would have been
happier if he would have just been mayor of like
(10:31):
Chicago and everybody. I mean, I'm glad he was president,
I guess, but that's not what we're talking about here.
I'm just saying, what a fun career to have you.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
This song Nanny is like, as far as I'm interpreting it,
it is written from the perspective. It's like a distrack
written from the perspective of a grandmother about her status
as a grandmother and how like she just kills it
one hundred percent every day as at being your grandmother.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I mean, that is the cutest thing ever. All he
talks about in his rap songs are Grandma and and
the food that I presume Grandma is involved with as well.
I'm interested in his in his uh cooking, Actually I bet,
(11:25):
I bet he can cook. I'm I'm interested.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
But Bill he cooked on these tracks for sure.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, it's actually I will say there is a deeper
thing there to think about. I mean, he is like
he is not what you know, what we look for
in a rapper. And I think that he probably could have,
(11:54):
I don't know, made it further. I mean he has
he could have made it further if he was talking
about selling drugs and gangs and whatever, making stuff up
because a lot of these rappers don't do any of
that stuff. They just say it and they just make
it up. Like the corniness of it says something about.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
His moral personality, his soul.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
He's way too sweet for that his because his his
production value was good. He had the resources and the
skills and the community to actually make good content that
he could spread, and he chose to make stuff that
was way too wholesome to ever be popular. And that
(12:37):
is great. That is great.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I think that like people joke about how tame rappers
Delight is now compared to the hip hop today, and
this is like it started at rappers Delight and went
the other way to make it even more wholesome.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It's well, this is like something that my mom would like,
and and that is and that's never gonna that's never
gonna be something that's gonna be popular. With the rap
of today because she doesn't like and it's it's.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Just like it's yeah, it's so it's so strange because
he's edgier as a political candidate is as an artist
much more.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
And it's and it's so funny that they tried to
discredit him with this because I don't think it does
that at all, Like, and that's I think why they
also didn't talk too much about it. It's like, oh, yeah,
he had a he had a short, very short lived
rap career where Lupida Niango was in one of his videos.
(13:41):
Oh also their besties, like she's America's sweetheart. She is
literally like, uh, if I'm naming a list of like
people who are perfect and can do no wrong, like
she's she's up there. And I actually I almost think
that they like tried not to let that because I
didn't learn about this till today that she was like
(14:03):
a big endoorser of his.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, as far as I know, she only mentioned their
prior relationship on election day after she had voted, and
she said, I've actually known him since he was fourteen
and he was always a wonderful kid.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And now it's all over the news. I guess because
we were all kind of like, we don't want to
we don't want to rock the boat. Let's just let
him do his thing. But we're really happy to have him.
I'm glad that he is the mayor and now it's
time to, you know, hold him accountable to to do
everything that he promised he would do. Let's see if
(14:40):
he can make some stuff happen. You know, I would
love you know, who's going to be the new rats? Are?
I'm considering running? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Okay, yeah, what is your method going to be?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well? I was thinking we bring in Curtis Sliwa because
he has some great thoughts. He has some thoughts on them,
because I actually think that we should have more cats.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
If if there is a song featuring Curtis Sliwa, we
need to talk about that on the show. Because I
am so I so I've I've known about Curtis Lea
Sila since I was a child because he was on
the radio forever. What a fascinating person. And it's crazy
that the election of a democratic socialist has also brought
(15:29):
up with it a weird Republican guy. Okay, so I yeah,
Curtis Sleila, this is kind of his.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Moment it's his moment. I think part of that it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Almos has been so dislikable or so unlikable for the
entire campaign that people are like, I would rather the
slee Wi guy went out.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well, We've I think as New Yorker's we've not had
like this in my in my recent history, there hasn't
been a mayor that was like running against two other
really well known like both Eric Adams and Andrew Cuomo
(16:11):
were really kept running even though they weren't. Nobody wanted them,
and like Eric did crimes and we were like, you
gotta go when he was, like I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Saying, kind of a lot popular mayor before the crimes crimes,
were like you can't do this anymore?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, And then and then Cuomo also did crimes. He
was an unpopular governor, did crimes, and then tried to
run his mayor like of the city. He should have
just run as like the mayor of Albany or something.
People might have voted for him, but of course New
York isn't gonna like we don't like him. But I
feel like that is what made me google Curtis. That
(16:51):
made me be like, who are all these people running?
Because before it's like, oh, you just have one guy
and then you have like some other people. The it
was a very controversial group of men. And then this
other guy in this red beret.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You're like, who is this getting stabbed?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yes, and like he he joined the race of you know,
a rag tag group of the thing is.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I think what people want is like could we vote
for a good person?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Could there be like just good people on the ballot,
or could at least one of them be like a
person where it's like they could watch my kid if right,
if I needed to run out to get something, they
could watch my kid. I will say they could keep
my pets alive for a weekend in.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Order of watching kid. Of the mayors, I would go Zorn.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
The mayors.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, if I had to choose from the mayors the
mayor candidates, yes, the mayoral candidates, I would go Zorron. Yeah,
none of the past mayors. They're not on the list.
Maybe Deblasio, but Zo actually Deblasio.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Go on first, he was too much of a softy.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
That's yeah, exactly. He would be good for watching the kids.
But other than that, go Zoron. Eric uh Sliwa than
Cuomo Eric second, I think he would have a great
day with the kids. Come on, he would bring them
all around. He would get he would you.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
He would they would get to ride in a cop
car for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, they would have a great day. And you know
he would like discipline them and everything. He would give
them good stories about the good old days. I think
when it comes to watching kids, I think maybe not
long term. M I mean, who's leaving their kid with
a man like a single man like for like for
more than a day. But I'm talking a day, a
(18:49):
fun day out with your uncle vibe.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
So the perils of Zoron number one is your kids
might like Zoon more. He seems like he's good with children.
It seems like they're all always going to be asking
you where's uncle Zorn.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well, that would be great for me because if I
had kids, I would hate that, and so I would say, Zorn,
will you please adopt them? Conveniently? I don't have kids.
If Mike so convenience, think it's such a convenient thing.
But if my cat liked Zoron more than more than me,
I would be crushed. So I'm just never gonna let
her meet him. That's my plan for that.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And Zone on likes cats, not as much as Sliwa
though exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And let's go back around. I'm gonna be the rats Are.
These are my these are my three pillars of the
rats Are plan. And no, I do think Curtis should
be the rats Are. That would be so funny or
I mean, we should really get rid of that position
because it was a stupid idea. We need to deal with.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Well, we're in an error where we're trying new things.
Mayor Adams started it with the rats Are. He's like,
we're gonna do some new stuff and some of it's
gonna be weird.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah. Yeah, so we're gonna do and so we have to.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Credit Mayor Adams for that. Yes, old school crimes, new
school positions, Well, old school positions.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
ZAR is quite an old position in my opinion. There
was a whole revolution about it and a whole other continent.
But yeah, so Pillar one is going to be fix
the trash.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
We need the trash situation.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
We need to overhaul the entire trash system of New
York City top to bottom.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I knew the special cans with the special.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Lids, special lids, they need to be metal because my
building got new trash cans. They're trying, but they're plastic
and there's already holes that the rats have chewed into them.
So that's the main pillar. And so hire a whole
bunch of more sanitation workers and like powerwash the entire city.
(20:49):
Bleach it. Pillar two. Yes, I think let's get some cats.
Pillar three, rat birth control. I would be a great ratsar.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I'd vote for you if that position was up.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Thanks it is. I think it's like three hundred thousand
dollars a year. I think you can apply. I'm thinking
of applying. I don't know. I mean, Zorn's a huge
inspiration to people like me. You can go from being
a silly person on the internet to next thing. You know,
you are the mayor of New York City, So shout
(21:26):
out to him. That was our first listen, the first
episode in a while. Where was truly our first listen successful.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, maybe we shouldn't actually do that. Something to think about. Yeah,
all right, tell us about yours Instagram at at First
Listen podcast and we will be back next week with
another new episode of the podcast. Thanks by
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Had H
Welcome to at First Listen To Music podcast for people
who don't always get the hype but want to. I'm Andrew,
I'm Dominique.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And today we're covering New York's hottest new rapper.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Also known as the Mayor elect of New York City.
Very excited.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, mom, Donnie was a rapper or is a rapper?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Do you ever stop being a rapper?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Like a like a Marines type of thing.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, it's like, I'm an artist. I'm always going to
be an artist. I I didn't want to talk about
this or I didn't really want to think about his
rap career while he was running because I thought that
that wasn't helping. Yeah, because of that, that was basically
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I mean, a Muslim is scary enough.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Exactly a rapper and rappers are basically known as like not.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
There is we agree as a society that rappers are
very scary.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah. The branding, and I think this is in large
part because of you know, the racism and the establishment,
But the branding tends to be associated with criminality oftentimes.
I do not think that that is the vibe that
he gives at all.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So there are a shocking number of music videos on
YouTube of the artist young Cardo Mom. Most of them
are from about nine eight or nine years old.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I think he was really hitting it hard about in
twenty in what was it, twenty eighteen sixteen ish?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, so he's about twenty five. He looks exactly the
same he looks. He's in a suit in a lot
of the music videos.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's about as mayoral of a music career as you
could possibly get. It's it's Disney's sponsored by Disney, like
one of the biggest music videos. I I can't I
honestly think there is. It's completely congruous with his current image.
Like it it's it seems like a mayor making a
(02:32):
music video. It doesn't seem like a rapper vibe at all.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, it's something else. It's a little bit something else.
So this song that we're gonna preview for you now
is called Number one Spice. This is from the soundtrack
of a film called Queen of Catway starring zo Ron
Mundatti's dear friend Lupita Niongo Wait, a Hademy Award winning actress.
(03:02):
So I can't figure out was he doing this rap
career because of this film that he was somehow involved
in I think he was an assistant director on the movie.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
To me, it seems like he was already kind of
having these ideas to do a rap career. He was
probably freestyling with the homies, and his mom has a
production company. He is great at making visuals and videos,
(03:37):
and he has all these friends. I mean, were we
not all like trying to have music videos in twenty sixteen?
We were all trying to do this at twenty sixteen,
he was he was not unique in this way, and
then it just kind of came together. To me, that's
what it looks like that it all kind of came together,
(03:57):
and then he got some funding for an actual, like
cool project.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
All right, let's take a listen to part of Number
one Spice, and then I'm gonna explain why I have
such a big problem with all this.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Was it num Spice?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Was it number Spice?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Everyone's favorite African American? Zoron quame mom Donnie.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Be Asian American?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well it it's the meme because he marked African American. No,
so so untrue. He's he is African American in that
he's from Uganda, and he is.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
American where he was born.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
He's from Africa and but and he marked that on
his on like college application. Did you not hear about
this news? This was like a thing they'd used to
try to discredit him, that it was a big gotcha thing.
It was very birth certificate vibes. It was like he
marked African American on like a college applic cation, and
(05:01):
everybody was like, he's trying to say that he tried
to base to claim that he's African American, and obviously
he's that that signifies a certain identity. That he is
not African American does not mean a guy who was
(05:22):
born in Africa and then lives in America. It's people
who are from America and who are black. And so
it was trying to be like, oh, it was trying
to basically be like, hey, black people, you should not
trust this guy. It's the same thing with like taking
your affirmative action. That was the vibe the affirmative action
that they hate and that they got rid of. And
(05:43):
it's like it was the same thing of like, oh,
he's in a rent control department and he is and
he goes to a nice restaurant. He's he's bad, he's
a Nepo baby, and everybody else is like we all
do they he still pays a lot of money for rent.
It's not cheap anyway. So that's why I made the
(06:08):
joke African American. So we got two most famous African
Americans right now, are Zo ron Mondani and Elon Musk.
Shout out all.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Right anyway, But so my problem with this is that
it's quite.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Good, okay, clickbait, and.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It kind of slaps and the one thing I will
say is that he definitely cannot dance, and that is
a parent in all of his music videos.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Another very very mayoral vibe.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't build a Blasio dude.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, yeah, we don't need, we don't need. I honestly
feel like this is a crazy take, but one of
dancers ever been the people that we're like looking to
for for.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Like now, you can't lead the free world with hip mobility.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
No exactly, I mean I think I mean Brown comes
to mind as someone who is a really amazing dancer
and bad at every other.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Have something here, Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, doja cat also all over the place.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Elvis Presley, It's like, stick to the.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Moves, move your hips, don't move your lips.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, Elvis Presley, was it he offered to be an
informant for Nixon.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well, also he married a child.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Well a lot of them do that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But he he he he also did it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Did we mention Michael Jackson? Yeah we did.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah. So yeah, So I in in that way, the
precise corniness of it, the where this music lands on good.
I think the music is good.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I think there's a lot content about and related to food.
And I don't understand, Like there's another music video. H
since we've talked a lot, let's play a clip from Nanny.
(08:09):
So that's the song for which there's a music video.
And he and a bunch of other people are in
a halal cart and in one of the scenes he
is shirtless wearing an apron in the halal cart. He
was asked if there was one thing he could delete
from the Internet, what would it be, And it was
that scene in the music video, I will say, and
(08:30):
we're going back to food. So it's like somewhere between
like Weird Al Yankovic and Big Shack.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
There is not a more New York guy than this.
Like he is an Indian guy from Uganda who grew
up in New York. He I don't know what his
connection to Halal carts is. Yeah, he's Indian Muslim guy,
(08:58):
I mean right, his family is Muslim. Like that is
the most New York story ever that.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Is a Muslim because we're supposed to be afraid of that.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I know. I'm like, is he even I'm that's actually
it just occurred to me that like.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
He was that just the thing people were saying.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, it's like he's brown and he's not from South America,
so he's clearly Muslim.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
What would be the most terrifying thing he could be?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, he is a moss of So mister.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Carter Mom on YouTube has a little over ten thousand subscribers.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, and wow, ten thousand, but he has like almost
a million views on a lot of these videos and
he you know, it's number one spice cardamom. And then
this other one is about a grandma, Like it is
the most wholesome. This is very much I'm like, did
Obama create him? This is like Obama what I feel
(09:54):
like Obama would have done if he could like do
it again, Yeah, and like a better.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Rather rather than not inhaling that pot, he would have
been making.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Rapid Yes, well it's like this is this is like that.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Was like the wild thing Obama did was not inhale marijuana.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, and also be secret Muslim from Kenya. No, also
have a middle name that everyone was confused by. But
I I feel like it's like Obama would have been
happier if he would have just been mayor of like
(10:31):
Chicago and everybody. I mean, I'm glad he was president,
I guess, but that's not what we're talking about here.
I'm just saying, what a fun career to have you.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
This song Nanny is like, as far as I'm interpreting it,
it is written from the perspective. It's like a distrack
written from the perspective of a grandmother about her status
as a grandmother and how like she just kills it
one hundred percent every day as at being your grandmother.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I mean, that is the cutest thing ever. All he
talks about in his rap songs are Grandma and and
the food that I presume Grandma is involved with as well.
I'm interested in his in his uh cooking, Actually I bet,
(11:25):
I bet he can cook. I'm I'm interested.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
But Bill he cooked on these tracks for sure.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, it's actually I will say there is a deeper
thing there to think about. I mean, he is like
he is not what you know, what we look for
in a rapper. And I think that he probably could have,
(11:54):
I don't know, made it further. I mean he has
he could have made it further if he was talking
about selling drugs and gangs and whatever, making stuff up
because a lot of these rappers don't do any of
that stuff. They just say it and they just make
it up. Like the corniness of it says something about.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
His moral personality, his soul.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
He's way too sweet for that his because his his
production value was good. He had the resources and the
skills and the community to actually make good content that
he could spread, and he chose to make stuff that
was way too wholesome to ever be popular. And that
(12:37):
is great. That is great.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I think that like people joke about how tame rappers
Delight is now compared to the hip hop today, and
this is like it started at rappers Delight and went
the other way to make it even more wholesome.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It's well, this is like something that my mom would like,
and and that is and that's never gonna that's never
gonna be something that's gonna be popular. With the rap
of today because she doesn't like and it's it's.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Just like it's yeah, it's so it's so strange because
he's edgier as a political candidate is as an artist
much more.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
And it's and it's so funny that they tried to
discredit him with this because I don't think it does
that at all, Like, and that's I think why they
also didn't talk too much about it. It's like, oh, yeah,
he had a he had a short, very short lived
rap career where Lupida Niango was in one of his videos.
(13:41):
Oh also their besties, like she's America's sweetheart. She is
literally like, uh, if I'm naming a list of like
people who are perfect and can do no wrong, like
she's she's up there. And I actually I almost think
that they like tried not to let that because I
didn't learn about this till today that she was like
(14:03):
a big endoorser of his.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, as far as I know, she only mentioned their
prior relationship on election day after she had voted, and
she said, I've actually known him since he was fourteen
and he was always a wonderful kid.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And now it's all over the news. I guess because
we were all kind of like, we don't want to
we don't want to rock the boat. Let's just let
him do his thing. But we're really happy to have him.
I'm glad that he is the mayor and now it's
time to, you know, hold him accountable to to do
everything that he promised he would do. Let's see if
(14:40):
he can make some stuff happen. You know, I would
love you know, who's going to be the new rats? Are?
I'm considering running? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Okay, yeah, what is your method going to be?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well? I was thinking we bring in Curtis Sliwa because
he has some great thoughts. He has some thoughts on them,
because I actually think that we should have more cats.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
If if there is a song featuring Curtis Sliwa, we
need to talk about that on the show. Because I
am so I so I've I've known about Curtis Lea
Sila since I was a child because he was on
the radio forever. What a fascinating person. And it's crazy
that the election of a democratic socialist has also brought
(15:29):
up with it a weird Republican guy. Okay, so I yeah,
Curtis Sleila, this is kind of his.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Moment it's his moment. I think part of that it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Almos has been so dislikable or so unlikable for the
entire campaign that people are like, I would rather the
slee Wi guy went out.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well, We've I think as New Yorker's we've not had
like this in my in my recent history, there hasn't
been a mayor that was like running against two other
really well known like both Eric Adams and Andrew Cuomo
(16:11):
were really kept running even though they weren't. Nobody wanted them,
and like Eric did crimes and we were like, you
gotta go when he was, like I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Saying, kind of a lot popular mayor before the crimes crimes,
were like you can't do this anymore?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, And then and then Cuomo also did crimes. He
was an unpopular governor, did crimes, and then tried to
run his mayor like of the city. He should have
just run as like the mayor of Albany or something.
People might have voted for him, but of course New
York isn't gonna like we don't like him. But I
feel like that is what made me google Curtis. That
(16:51):
made me be like, who are all these people running?
Because before it's like, oh, you just have one guy
and then you have like some other people. The it
was a very controversial group of men. And then this
other guy in this red beret.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You're like, who is this getting stabbed?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yes, and like he he joined the race of you know,
a rag tag group of the thing is.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I think what people want is like could we vote
for a good person?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Could there be like just good people on the ballot,
or could at least one of them be like a
person where it's like they could watch my kid if right,
if I needed to run out to get something, they
could watch my kid. I will say they could keep
my pets alive for a weekend in.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Order of watching kid. Of the mayors, I would go Zorn.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
The mayors.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, if I had to choose from the mayors the
mayor candidates, yes, the mayoral candidates, I would go Zorron. Yeah,
none of the past mayors. They're not on the list.
Maybe Deblasio, but Zo actually Deblasio.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Go on first, he was too much of a softy.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
That's yeah, exactly. He would be good for watching the kids.
But other than that, go Zoron. Eric uh Sliwa than
Cuomo Eric second, I think he would have a great
day with the kids. Come on, he would bring them
all around. He would get he would you.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
He would they would get to ride in a cop
car for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, they would have a great day. And you know
he would like discipline them and everything. He would give
them good stories about the good old days. I think
when it comes to watching kids, I think maybe not
long term. M I mean, who's leaving their kid with
a man like a single man like for like for
more than a day. But I'm talking a day, a
(18:49):
fun day out with your uncle vibe.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
So the perils of Zoron number one is your kids
might like Zoon more. He seems like he's good with children.
It seems like they're all always going to be asking
you where's uncle Zorn.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well, that would be great for me because if I
had kids, I would hate that, and so I would say, Zorn,
will you please adopt them? Conveniently? I don't have kids.
If Mike so convenience, think it's such a convenient thing.
But if my cat liked Zoron more than more than me,
I would be crushed. So I'm just never gonna let
her meet him. That's my plan for that.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And Zone on likes cats, not as much as Sliwa
though exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And let's go back around. I'm gonna be the rats Are.
These are my these are my three pillars of the
rats Are plan. And no, I do think Curtis should
be the rats Are. That would be so funny or
I mean, we should really get rid of that position
because it was a stupid idea. We need to deal with.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Well, we're in an error where we're trying new things.
Mayor Adams started it with the rats Are. He's like,
we're gonna do some new stuff and some of it's
gonna be weird.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah. Yeah, so we're gonna do and so we have to.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Credit Mayor Adams for that. Yes, old school crimes, new
school positions, Well, old school positions.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
ZAR is quite an old position in my opinion. There
was a whole revolution about it and a whole other continent.
But yeah, so Pillar one is going to be fix
the trash.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
We need the trash situation.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
We need to overhaul the entire trash system of New
York City top to bottom.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I knew the special cans with the special.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Lids, special lids, they need to be metal because my
building got new trash cans. They're trying, but they're plastic
and there's already holes that the rats have chewed into them.
So that's the main pillar. And so hire a whole
bunch of more sanitation workers and like powerwash the entire city.
(20:49):
Bleach it. Pillar two. Yes, I think let's get some cats.
Pillar three, rat birth control. I would be a great ratsar.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I'd vote for you if that position was up.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Thanks it is. I think it's like three hundred thousand
dollars a year. I think you can apply. I'm thinking
of applying. I don't know. I mean, Zorn's a huge
inspiration to people like me. You can go from being
a silly person on the internet to next thing. You know,
you are the mayor of New York City, So shout
(21:26):
out to him. That was our first listen, the first
episode in a while. Where was truly our first listen successful.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, maybe we shouldn't actually do that. Something to think about. Yeah,
all right, tell us about yours Instagram at at First
Listen podcast and we will be back next week with
another new episode of the podcast. Thanks by
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Had H
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