BEEF UP FRONT: Championship Weekend -- 11/29/23

Sean Brace and Ryan Coyle talk all things Championship Weekend in College Football.

Episode Transcript

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The game is one in the trenches. They just don't have to beef upfront,
all right, So you better havebeef up front. They have the
skill position players, they have thedefensive backs, they have the quarterback.
They don't have the beef up front. They says, your weekly stop for
all things college football. Now hereare your hosts, Ryan Coyle and Sean
Brace. Well, it's kind ofsad, but at the same time exciting

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and of course I mean champ orcollege football coming to a close as far
as regular season, and now wegot our conference championship games being played all
this weekend. Of course, itis championship weekend, and this is beef
up front, Ryan Coyle, beefhimself. I am Sean Brace. We're
gonna go over all of the gamesthat are going down this weekend, starting

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on Friday with the Pac twelve championshipgame. We'll even sprinkle in our Heisman
Trophy conversation and some interesting bowl gamecombo just sparked up and some disappointing elements
as we are about to enter intobowl season, but we'll hold off on
that just second. Of course,Ryan, good evening, sir. How
are we doing today? Yeah,Sean as you said kind of at the

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beginning. It's it's a sad show, but it's also I think one of
the best shows of this season.We've had so many great weekends of college
football this year. I think thisyear, more than ever, I think
we had more marquee matchups, likegreat games to look forward to than I
can remember in recent memory. Andthen this is by far the best college
football championship weekend of the college footballplayoff era. Like, there's going to

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be some mad chaos, and Ithink Sunday morning, come noon, there's
going to be one team that hasleft out that has a legitimate case to
be pissed off, and that's goingto be very, very upset. There's
going to be one team on theoutside looking in out of that four out
of that's five, it's going tobe an insane weekend. And Friday night
we get to probably punch our firstticket with the PAC twelve. So excited

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to get into all the games here. All right, Well, we're not
going to start with New Mexico Stateand Liberty. I love and respect for
our Conference USA friends out there,but let's talk about Oregon and Washington here.
And it's the PAC twelve championship gamegoing down in Vegas. Last year
he had USC and Utah. CalebWilliams ended up getting hurt, but still
it was just great theater, beautifulscene out there in Vegas, and of

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course the game essentially all by itself. All eyes will be on this game
even more this year, as thewinner of this game is going to get
a trip into the college football Playoff. Oregon and Washington nine and a half
points spread on DraftKings Sportsbook, sixtysix as are total. This is an
eight pm kick, five o'clock outthere in Vegas time, Ryan, I

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know this much that this number willcontinue to rise up. I think that
this number is going to get thedouble digits. The question I have is
why I don't understand that. Ithink people are going a little crazy here
with the Oregon love. I knowthat they're a really good football team.
You better believe Washington is they are, and this is the championship game,
so I think this is going tobe a close game. I'm really intrigued

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to hear what you have to say. A lot is on the line,
from the playoff berth to of coursethe conference title, bragging rights. PAC
twelve Closing up shop, and oh, by the way, Heisman Trophy got
the front runner with Bo Nicks minusone seventy five and Michael Pennox Junior plus
sixteen hundred un DraftKings sports book.But let's start with the point spread here,
give us a side where you leanand where you look. Yeah,

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So this was one of those thingsI tweeted out earlier. I believe it
might have been Sunday or Monday whenI first saw this nine and a half.
I was shocked to see that number. But the books have kind of
been like hinting at this the pastfew weeks. Like Oregon despite having that
loss, was still like a minuslike one seventy minus one ninety to wind
up winning the Pac twelve. Andyou can say what you want about Washington
maybe not showing up over kind ofthe second half of the season, but

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I think at the end of theday, just like with the Philadelphia Eagles,
they just find a way to winthe football game at the end of
the day, and that's what ultimatelymatters, especially in college football where you
pretty much have to have that unblemishrecord to find your way into the college
football playoff at the end of theday. Since Michael Penix has came to
or or came to Washington. He'stwenty three and two, and neither of

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those two losses were by double digits. He lost by eight to UCLA last
year and lost by seven to ArizonaState last year and back to back weeks.
So I don't know why they're gettingso disrespected. I've loved this Oregon
team all year. I've been highon the balance that they've had, but
they also haven't exactly beat many goodteams yet this either. I mean the
Pac twelve we were kind of talkingabout at the beginning of the season.

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It was looking like it was goingto be an awesome stack conference, but
you saw teams like Colorado after theirhot start, USC after their hot start,
teams like that kind of fall offdown the stretch. And so Oregon's
best game was the Washington game andthey lost that matchup. I do think
there's a legit chance that Washington canwin this game. They're not really missing
anyone injured. Roma Dunze is oneof the best receivers and playmakers in college

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football. Michael Penix, I'm takingWashington at nine and a half. It's
definitely one of those fishy kind oflines like why is it? Does Vegas
know something? But at the sametime I saw earlier I think it was
fifty five percent of the public ison Oregon minus nine and a half as
well, so it sound like it'sit's very lopsided in this. I love
Washington plus nine and a half,and I do think that they have a

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shot to win this game. It'snot like it's a Michigan versus Iowa type
of type of matchup. Plus twoseventy five on the money line, definitely
if you believe that, or ifyou're going to take the nine and a
half, I would definitely sprinkle littlesomething there on the plus two seventy five.
I'm gonna give you another liar ona play too as well. In
this game, I think that we'regonna see a boatload of scoring. I
like the overend this. I reallydo think it's going to be a pretty

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much a rematch like You're a playoutlike it did. Of course, it's
a rematch like it did a fewweeks ago, and it was a great
game. It was a tight gameand it literally came down to the final
minute and those I might have beenthe best I think the best game start
to finish it in college football thisyear, Man, that game Michigan o
House State was pretty good. Yeah, that was a good game, was

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a really good game. But you'reright as far as score, scoring points
and everything, Yeah, well Pactwelve delivered this year. We as we
said, So I'm with you.I'm taking the points. I kind of
was like, is this a suckerbet? Is this what this is going
on here? But dude, Iget it. Bo Nicks is playing really
well, but you're looking at aguy that can win the Heisman Trophy and

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Michael Pennock junior. Those guys attack, they take shots down the field.
As far as air yards are concerned, take a look at some of those
numbers, it's not even close.It's really not. And I think that's
what's gonna happen with Washington and they'regonna play a little loose. They are
major underdogs, and disrespect is therethat's gonna be amplified to no when and

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like I said, the lights aregonna be shining bright. So I expect
a really really good game. Giveme the over sixty six And weren't you
on the over? And the lasttime too, wasn't weren't you saying,
like they can't put this number highenough. That was the Washington So this
was when we hit as well.I think it was probably the beginning of
the fourth quarter around there, andyou had some miskicks and everything, a
few miss trips to the red zonelike that game easily could have been in

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the eighties. But when you kindof if I can go to the Heisman
real quick, Penix is still onthe board at plus sixteen hundred, Like
you're saying, if you think Washington'sgoing to go out there, I think
if Oregon wins this game, Ithink it's going to stay under because Oregon
what they've done the best all year, Bonnicks can go out there and throw
four hundred yards. This is ateam that really runs the football well and
just has a balanced offense. Washington, they have to go out there and

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Michael Penics has to throw the ballforty five to fifty times, and it's
gonna be If you think Washington hasa shot that that game is going to
be forty five to forty two.He's throwing the ball forty five fifty times,
he's throwing for four hundred yards's thrownfor four touchdowns. He goes out
there, does that head to aheadagainst bow Knicks beats him for the second
time this year, wins the Pactwelve, and Jayden Daniels is at home
watched on the couch. It's gonnabe hard for voters to get that out

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of their memory. And I thinkthe last Heisman winner two going into the
Heisman to have three losses was LamarJackson. Last year Kayleb Williams ultimately wound
up with three says after losing thebowl game. But this is a thing
where the voters do value wins aswell, and undefeated season with the numbers
at Penix has put up, Ithink it'd be hard to deny him that
at that point. And at plussixteen hundred, don't even bet the game

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at that point if you think they'regonna win just I would just take Michael
Pennick straight up. Maybe if youwant to play it safe, just take
the brand or something to have somerooting interest for the game. But that
would be your big ticket winner atthe end of the day right there.
Absolutely did fire on it. Afterthe show, talk to Julian Edlo from
draftings seat on his way out thereto the game. A matter of fact,
and I just said, why,you know, why is he sixteen

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hundred, because if he beats boNicks, as you just said, it'll
be the second time Bo Nicks isnot going to win the Heisman. Yeah.
I think he's not. Jayden Danielscould, I know everyone is all,
you know, really crowing about him, and I on his touch this
week exactly and again, Michael Pennox'sjunior, his numbers are right there,
They're right there. I know JadenDiners had a great season. It like

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trumps what Joe Burrow did, whichwas one of the craziest seasons we've ever
sent called. But Michael Pennocks junior'snumbers are right there. And if he
goes out there on Saturday, goesundefeated, gets to the College Football Playoff,
beats this team who everybody is startingto say is on Georgia's level.
Matt Recks is a one point spreadagainst Georgia. I'm like, all right,
I can get there if they winthis game against Washington. I gotta

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see it to believe it. I'mnot putting them on the on the on
the level of Georgia right here atthis point in time, but we'll see.
I think Penis at sixteen hundred isa must play. That's a must
play for anybody out there. Sixteenhundred. Come on, man, and
you look at the time that theyplayed Georgia early or excuse me, Oregon
earlier in the season. He wenttwenty two for thirty seven for three hundred

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and two yards and four touchdowns.So even if he cleans up that completion
percentage a little bit, remember thatgame was played in the rain for a
lot of the day as well.Now he's going to be an indoor environment.
Should be able to complete sixty fiveto seventy percent of his passes in
this one. I would think,go for over three hundred yards, have
a chance to throw multiple touchdowns.Like you said, take down the current
Heisman favorite back to back or twicein one season. It's gonna be hard

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to get that memory out of yourhead when you're going to submit that vote
at the end of the day.All right, New Mexico State, Liberty,
let's get on over to that.Anything for you on this one ten
and a half. I know somepeople are talking about Jeff Parlos. I
had him on from Vegas earlier thisweek. He likes New Mexico State and
matter of fact, I think thatwas his favorite play this week because he

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said Texas was blown up too muchthat he couldn't say Texas at this point
in time. But still, NewMexico State catching all those points really impressive
job what they've been able to dothis year. Anything for you on this
game, I will be fully,fully upfront. I don't like anything in
this game, but I am willingto at least take a little flyer in
New Mexico State since Parlos said itwas his best bet. Yeah, so,

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I mean, it's conference title weekend. You only have ten games.
You got to put a little action, I think on every game because you're
not gonna be able to do thisuntil next college football Saturday. So,
like you said, it's not agame that I'm dying to look at right
now. New Mexico State has coveredtheir last ten games, though that that
win at Auburn. But Liberty isa damn good team. They've won by

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eleven or more and nine of theirtwelve matchups this year. I think Jamie
Chadwell is one of the best,most underrated coaches in the country. It's
a stop at Liberty where I don'tthink he'll be there very long. If
he doesn't want to leave this year, he'll probably have his pick of some
Power five jobs next season. Thisis a spot that I like Liberty.
I think that New Mexico State mighthave peaked a little bit too much,
and this Liberty team is good.They already took care of New Mexico State

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at the beginning of the season.I believe it was like thirty three to
sixteen. So this is a spotwhere I'm looking at Liberty to win this
game by two touchdowns. But Isaid, it's not something that I'm falling
over head over heels for. It'smore so just that that would be my
play for this matchup at least.All right, let's keep it moving.
Let's get to Saturday, and wekick things off right and early at noon,
and we got a big twelve championshipgame that features Taxes with one loss

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on the season in Oklahoma State,big time number here now up the fifteen
on DraftKings Sportsbook total coming in atfifty five. Of course, the history
of Texas what we know happened there. They lost to Oklahoma on October to
seventh. Since then, six contextsconsecutive victories. They're eleven to one and

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they have a fifty seven to sevenwin over Texas Tech last week and Oklahoma
State. They won seven of theirlast dight after opening up the season two
and two on the year. Willthis be a ballgame? There's a lot
at stake. Texas could very wellbe one of the main one loss teams
right now. You've got Oregon,you got Ohio State, you got Alabama,

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and of course them. So Ithink if Georgia eliminates Alabama, Washington
eliminates Oregon, next thing, youknow, you're gonna have a decision between
those two teams that are left withone last Ohio State and Texas. Which
way would you go on that?It's hard to argue that they want.
The committee won and picked Texas.So this is a huge game, we
know it. But will it bea close game? Fifteen point spread?

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Yeah. So the thing is withthis too, as we were talking about
the getting where a lot of theseteams, they're all kind of fighting for
that one spot that's going to beleft out most likely. So style points
are going to matter this weekend.So if Texas gets up, they're going
to have their foot on the gasand try to put them away as much
as possible when you look at thehistory of the Big Twelve Championship, though

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since twenty seventeen there's been no teamhas won that game by more than fifteen
points, so this is a conferencethat historically has stayed under that number and
has stayed pretty close. The playI really like in this game, excuse
me, is the over last fivematchups between these two schools, I've all
gone over fifty five, so Ithink this was one that we do see

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some points. I do think OklahomaState kind of like I was picking them
at the beginning of the year withthe Oklahoma game. There's no better way
to kind of tell Texas don't letthe door hit you on the way out
than then losing then beating them inthis game, having Texas lose, having
Texas get their chance to the CollegeFootball Playoff robs as they leave the Big
Twelve to head to the SEC.Mike Gundy, I think he knows how

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to get his guys up and readyfor these kind of revenge spots better than
any other coach in the Big Twelve, maybe even in the country. He
knows how to have those kind ofextra tricks up his sleeve to motivate his
guys. So I'm looking at OklahomaState to cover this one one big disadvantage
in this game for them, theylive and die with Ali Gordon in the
run game. He's one of thebest running backs in the country. Texas

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has the fourth best rush defense inthe country. So if they're able to
stop him, stifle that run game. I'm a little bit worried about Oklahoma
State in the passing game, aboutbeing able to move the ball. But
I think Texas is just going todo a Texas. They're going to slip
up. They do it every singleyear, and I'm just looking at this
spot for Oklahoma State. All yougotta do is keep it within two touchdowns

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to win that bet. I thinkthey're gonna give him a fight, a
really good first half. I thinkwe see some points. So my two
plays actually in this game, Idid take the over a fifty five and
Oklahoma State plus a fifteen. WillGordon be a Final four finalist or a
Heisman final the final four that goesto New York. I think it's gonna
wind up being the three quarterbacks thatwe already discussed with Nick. Three guys,

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go right, yeah, I believeYeah, I think it is only
three, that's right, so it'snot four, so it'll be all the
three quarterbacks not him. Yeah,and the Walter Camp Award, it's like
a basically another Heisman. The finalistsfor that we're already announced as well.
So if I think also a guythat might be able to throw his name
into the ring this weekend if hehas a big game in Beach Georgia's Milroe.

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I'm not saying he win it,but I if bot excuse me,
both Knicks goes out there and hasa poor game on Friday night and he's
the reason like why Oregon loses andMilroe' is the reason why Alabama wins.
I could see him getting that invite, being like Daniels, Pennix and Milroe
at the end of the day,which would be a pretty surprising trio from
just two weeks ago. Yeah.Other thing is Milroe got benched and I

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know that they played well, andit's just like it's too late to win
it. But yeah, maybe theplayer of the year last week and then
knocking off Georgia for the first timein three that's gonna be another thing that
sticks in people's mind too. We'llget to that game in just a second.
Let's continue on Saturday. Let's talkabout Miami o Ohio and Toledo.
Little maction coming your way. Apoint spread forty four is your total noon

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kick? Were you on this one, Beef? So fifteen of the last
nineteen MAC title games have gone overforty four points. This is usually a
higher scoring conference title game, andMiami of Ohio is one of the best
teams in the country against the spread, nine and three against the spread this
season, so this is one thatI'm looking at the over in Miami Ohio

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to cover. It was a twentyone to seventeen win by Toledo earlier in
the year. Toledo is lives anddie with the running game. Penny Boon,
I believe is how you say hislast name. Seventeen carries for seventy
three yards in the game against Miamiof Ohio and they still found a way
to win. This is the guythat ran for over thirteen hundred yards and
fifteen touchdowns on the season, Sothey live and die with the running game.
If he was able to do thatin the first matchup and they still

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won, I think he's gonna beable to have a bounce back game this
time. Around. So I amgoing to take Toledo to win, but
I will take Miami. I'll hireto cover and the over to hit.
I like that fifteen of the lastnineteen. This is usually one of those
conference title games where some weird,kind of chaotic things happen and we're going
to get some some points in thisone. Both really good football teams eleven
and one versus ten and two,and you know, the best of the

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best that that conference has to offer. So that should be a good football
game. We'll keep it going threePM. Let's talk about you and LV
and Boise State. This is definitelygonna be a good game. You and
LV has been really surprising all seasonlong. Ets ten and two. I
think that's the biggest thing that wecircle. Nine to three on the season.
Boise State a little bit more ofa disappointment, but seven and five.

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Here they are with a chance toend their season the right way,
and they're actually favored here DraftKings Sportsbooklooking right right now two and a half.
Boise's favored fifty nine as your total. We run in with the running
rebels here. Yeah, so it'sweird for this one. Boise State actually
just fired their coach a few weeksago, and here they are in the
conference title game. So it's aspot where I don't think Boys State was

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expecting to be at a few weeksago. I am going to take UNLV
to cover this one, and Ithink if you think they can keep it
under two, you might as welltake them on the money line in this
game. This is a game beingplayed at Vegas two, so this is
a game in front of their homecrowd. I'm in a super Bowl type
of game. UNLV only won doubledigit games once in program history, back

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in nineteen eighty four. They hadall those wins vacated by the NCAA,
so it's a team that's never wonten games. That's like a huge milestone
for the program. If they're ableto do that while winning a conference championship
in the same day, I'd bea big game. So no more motivation
for that said. Boise State alreadykind of in a weird situation with the
head coach out the door. Idon't know if they've been more motivated without
him, less monovate, or whateverit is, but I think UNLV has

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everything to play for and more soI'm gonna take them and I'm actually gonna
take them on the money line towin this one. Straight up excellent.
All right, let's keep it moving. Let's get the four o'clock on Saturday,
and all i's will be on theSEC Championship game. And we've seen
these two teams playing this game afew times over the years. Alabama,
they are catching five and a halfhere, fifty four and a half game

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being played the Mercedes Benz Dome therein Jooja, five and a half favored
for the Georgia Bulldogs on Draftkicks sportsBook. I'll tell you straight up,
Beef, I like Bama catching thepoints here. I think they got a
little shock to the system that theyneeded. Not gonna really put too much
into to what took place last weekfor Georgia and Georgia Tech. They got

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a little close, though they neverwere able to pull away. I know
that that was the expectation there.Maybe they're looking ahead here. I doubt
that this is gonna be a greatgame. I think it's gonna be a
close game. So I'll take thepoints with Bama. Where are you going?
Yeah? So the one stat thatI saw on Twitter was from Ben
Faucas I believe is how you sayhis name. Since twenty ten, Bama

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has been favored in one hundred andninety of their one hundred and ninety three
games. All three times have beenas an underdog versus Georgia. This Saturday
is the fourth, So that's justinsane. Just a little side note on
how good Bama has been in thesaban era. But when you look at
the SEC title game historically, Ifeel like this is a game I'm always
looking forward to the most, butit doesn't usually deliver like a really good

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game. The last SEC title gamedecided by six or more or by six
points was Florida back in twenty twentyagainst Alabama. Since every other matchup during
that time frame over the past decadehas been decided by double digit points.
So this is a usually if youthink that Bama is going to be able
to cover, keep this close.Just take them out right to win,

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because this is like a game whereit we never really see it that close
down to the wire when you lookat it historically. And they also just
have that kind of team of destinyvibe to me after that game last week,
they're certainly riding that momentum and playingwith house money going into this game.
I feel like as well, theyhave everything to play for. Georgia
could still potentially get in with thelost. Bama knows they need the win

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in this one. I do likeBama to win it outright. My big
thing with Georgia over the course ofthe season, throughout the preseason, in
my preseason coverage and everything, therehasn't been a team to three peat in
college football since the nineteen thirties withMinnesota. There's bound to be a slip
up one of these next potential threegames. I think, whether it's this
game, the College Football semi orthe title game, and I think this

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is the best spot to do it. Nick Saban against Kirby Smart, get
some revenge, get him back.We saw them knock off them in the
SEC title game just a few yearsago. I think this is just a
spot where Alabama has a very goodchance to win this football game. Jaylen
Milroe probably playing his best football ofthe season. I'm gonna take Alabama to
win this one out right down inAtlanta. I like that plus one eighty

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on the money line here on DraftKings, and I'm with you if you think
that Alabama's gonna keep this close andcover the number, they might as well
get involved on that money line.See what we can get some really chaos
going there, because that's the one. If Alabama beach Georgia, this is
when all as hits the fan.Correct. Yeah, if Alabama beached Georgia,
then we just say he had Texaswin. Just say he had either

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Oregon or Washington. I think regardlessone of those guys get in. Then
if you have Michigan most likely beatIowa, and then Florida State Louisville,
we'll talk about it a little bit. That's the scenario that that one team
is going to be on the outsidelooking in. Do you leave out Alabama
or do you leave out Georgia?Do you leave out Texas? Do you
leave out Florida State. There's gonnabe one team very pissed off Sunday afternoon.

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And I hope they were able toget that coach on TV because I
feel like that is going to besome good clips out of that. Yeah.
I think that we might see somebravado from this committee. And if
Florida State is undefeated, they mightsay, you know what, well,
they don't have their quarterback, Andof course that's the big talking point and
again this is all dictated off ofof course they win one but two with

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Alabama being in Georgia, and it'shard to imagine that you don't put Georgia
in, But I think I couldsee that as well, just from a
simple standpoint of like, really,you're not going to put an undefeated conference
champ. I don't care if theylost their quarterback or not. There's more
than one player on the field,and that's a really talented Florida State team.
A lot to play for this weekend. We'll come to that game in

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just a second. Let's keep itmoving. Let's go to SMU and Tulane
here. This is a four o'clockkick as well. Tulane three and a
half point favorites. Forty seven isyour total where you at in this one,
beef. So Tulane's last six gamesat home have gone under the projected
total, and in five of theseven American Conference title games it has gone

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under forty seven. So Tulane isa very good defensive squad, very good
at home, but they are playingan SMU offense that's really good thirty one
or more in every conference game thisseason. So kind of a clash of
styles in this one. But thisis one of those games where it's not
at a neutral site. This isat Tulane. This is down in New
Orleans, so this is the spotwhere they're going to have the home field
advantage in this matchup. I likethen keep this one low scoring, just

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like they do every game at home, and I'm going to go with the
under a forty seven as my play. I do think Tulane we'll find a
way to win. SMU kind ofgot the easy part of the conference schedule.
Tu lane had to go through moreof the gauntlet. This two lane
team only loss on the season wasat home earlier in the year to Ole
Miss without their quarterback Michael Pratt.So a very good two lane squad.
I like them to win this game. I think SMU can keep it close,

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but I like the under as myofficial play. Forty seven. There.
All right, let's get on overto the Sun Belt Championship. We
got app State in Troy. Troyis a six point favorite fifty two and
a half. This is also afour o'clock kick. Yeah, not much
on this one. This is probablythe one I have the least amount of
intrigue on just because it should havebeen James Madison in this game. But

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looking at each of the four SunBelt title games, there's only been four
conference title games in the Sunbelt.The winner has won by six or more
in each of them, So Ido like Troy to cover. This is
another one where it's a better Troyteam. They had a very good matchup
earlier in the year with James Madison, but app State was able to beat
James Madison. They put up areally good fight against North Carolina too,

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But I will take Troy another wherethey are the home team in this game,
So Troy min six and a halfas might play there. Not much
infe on this one. Yeah,that James Madison game will definitely be standing
out for a long time for me, just with all the hoopla and all
the buzz with that game, andthe next thing you know, they go
in there and beat them. Itwas this tremendous same thing happened last year

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though with app State. They hostedgame Day and Troy went there and they
won it on like a hail Mary. So it was a pretty wild thing.
Yeah. Absolutely, all right,let's keep it moving. Two games
left here on the card. Overon DraftKings Sportsbook let's go to the easy
one. First, let's go toMichigan and Iowa. I don't think anyone's
gonna be crazy enough to pick Iowaand this one, twenty two and a
half point spread, thirty five isyour total. I've heard three different ways

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to bet on this game. Wheredo you stan, Beef? I've heard
the over on the total thirty five. I heard over on the team total
for Michigan. I think it's twenty. I'll pull it up. I want
to get that, just to lockthat in. And I've also heard first
half play for thirteen and a halfthirteen and a half Michigan minus thirteen and
a half. I love that play. Actually, while I'm looking up the

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team totals for Michigan, I knowiowas I think at five and a half,
I'm not mistaken. Where are youat on this game? Which way
you're going to be aging on it? Yeah, when you look at Michigan
in the last two years in theBig Ten title game, they absolutely smashed
Iowa and Purdue. I really likethat thirteen and a half in the first
half as well. I could seethem getting up and early. I am
still going to go with the underin this game. I think it could

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be very similar to the Penn StateIowa game earlier in the year where it
was thirty one nothing. I wouldjust not able to move the ball,
but their defense is still competent enoughstrong enough to keep them in it somewhat.
So my play on this one isprobably going to be that under a
thirty five. I could see itbeing also as well. I would cover
in maybe like a twenty seven seventype game, so you potentially hit both

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there with us is out of theBig Five or the Power five games,
it's definitely the one I'm looking forwardto the least. And another reason I'm
so glad that they're going away fromthe divisions because the Big Ten next year,
when you throw in Oregon, Washington, Ucla, Penn State, Michigan,
Ohio State, that's gonna be areally fun conference in setting up for

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a really awesome conference settle game,just like a bunch of these ones.
So that is the major positive ofrelignment. You're gonna have so many juice
matchups set going forward. It it'sgonna be really fun. Twenty nine and
a half is Michigan's team total,so you're gonna stay with the under.
You're gonna ride that streak with Iowagame staying to the under. I think
I close out the year. I'mlike, I just kept daring myself to

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take it, so might as wellkind of go out play with some of
the winnings I have from that one. All right, let's get to the
big one for Beef, because he'sbeen Florida State's number one fan. He's
been buying in from the beginning,way in the beginning, even before the
season kicked off, and this onehas a ton of importance behind it.
We all know the reasons why theygotta find a way to win. And

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even if they do win, theygo undefeated in their conference all season long,
win their conference championship, they stillmeet be on the outside looking at
I find it hard to believe,but who knows. Two and a half
point spread for Florida State. Fortyseven and a half is your total in
this one. Of course, JordanTravis goes down and everything has changed for
Florida State. Tough game against Florida. The big thing for me in that

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game is man, the offense wasjust not there. I know Florida probably
gave it their best shot. That'snot a good football team. In Florida
State was only able to get liketwo hundred and twenty total yards in the
game at Florida State or at Florida. So when it comes to this one,
I'm gonna be watching and definitely thinkingthat Louisville is gonna come away with
this victory. Here had Kentucky lastweek. That was an easy one,
probably the easiest one on the boardin my opinion. But for you eight

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pm ACC Championships Saturday night, that'swhere you're going, beef. So I
will ride with Florida State in thisone, just because even with Rodemaker playing
quarterback, they still have some dudesup front of the line of scrimmage.
And Benson's a really good back.I mean, if there's no better time
to use him more than they haveall season. In this game, he

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should carry the ball twenty three totwenty five times. He averaged six point
one yards per carry on the year, fourteen rushing touchdowns, a little over
eight hundred rushing yards. He's avery good back, and they have dudes
on the defensive side of the balltoo, So I really like if coming
into this one, if you thinkFlorida State's gonna win this game, I
think the under is a good play. I think it's gonna have to be
like a twenty four twenty type footballgame where Louisville is a team that has

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shown the ability to go out thereand score put up some points this year.
If Louisville is able to get outget ahead like ten nothing, fourteen
to nothing, I think Florida State'stoast coming trying to battle back from shooting
me from behind in this matchup.So I think Florida State and the under
is my play. Minus two anda half in the under a forty eight
and a half are the two playsI like in this matchup. But big

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picture wise, I think if youwhatever team wins, the Pac twelve is
going to get in if and thenall the favorites win, if Georgia wins,
if Texas wins, and if Michiganwins, I think you see Florida
State on the outside looking in,even if they have that zero next their
name in the lost column, unlessthey win this game by double digit points
to convincingly, if they can goout and show, you know, all

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right, we're able to go outthere and compete with or blow out a
Louisville team that has been pretty goodall year, because I just can't see
the committee looking at each other inthe room and thinking, all right,
Florida State seventeen and a half pointdog probably to Georgia, is that really
going to be the product that givesus a good game? Because I think
I heard Herbstreet say it earlier.It's not the doing the right thing or

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the most deserving team. It's yourjob in the committee is to put the
best four teams in the country inthe playoff. And if all the favorites
win, if you have Oregon,Michigan, Georgia, and Texas, you're
telling me that wouldn't be a betterfinal four than this version of Florida State
without Jordan Travis. I don't carethat. Oh they did this all the
entire way. You can argue thesame thing with like back in the day,

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went with the Eagles and Wentz andFoles. Who knows, you could
go have some magic Cardell Jones wentand did it for Ohio State itself.
But some of the one of thoseteams I think deserves more and is a
better fit in this playoff than FloridaState despite being undefeated, because I would
take that Georgia versus Texas and Michiganversus Oregon matchup, those would be awesome.
Those would be the probably the bestplayoff ever. And when you look

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at the playoff historically since it wentto four teams, these semi final rounds
have been pretty much blowouts more timesthan not. So I think they're going
to kind of use that against FloridaState as well. And as you were
saying, I'm probably the biggest FloridaState backer out there right now, I
have the twenty to one ticket.I think that's unfortunately toast even if they
find a way in. But Ijust don't think that there's a way for

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them to get in even if theygo undefeated. A lot of people disagree
with that, but that's just mystance on it. Very surprising to hear
you, Beef. I thought forsure you'd be all Florida State. I
mean, look, you got avoice, you got a platform, talk
a lot of college football, gota great following. You know you got
to you gotta go ahead and keepscreaming from the mountaintops, right because that's

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what everybody else is doing, especiallywhen it comes to of course, Jayden
Daniels and the Highs and it's like, wait a minute, I'm all about
Penix here. So I've been yellingabout Penix from the beginning. I'm gonna
hold on to that one. ButI'm with you. I think you made
a pretty good case there. It'sjust unfortunate that you lose your starting quarterback
and the caliber player that Jordan Travisis, and it's just deflating. It

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is. It's just I hate sayingit, but it is what it is.
And the one argument I would have, I would have to Alabama.
Sorry, if Alabama beach Georgia,I think Florida State should go. Florida
Alabama beach Georgia. Florida State shouldgo. That means Georgia is not going.
Yes, I think that because thenyou have the undefeated conference champion and

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then you're putting in a team thatdidn't win the conference championship, If that
makes sense. I think Florida Stateshould be the four. You put uh
Bama at the three, but thenyou can't probably you can't do a bat
There were probably a bed to besome seating arrangements because of you can't have
Alabama playing Texas again, most likelyin that first matchup. But I do

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think Florida State would be more notmore deserving, but they would won the
conference title. Undefeated. Georgia lostthe conference title. They had the chance.
All they had to do is win. I don't care Florida State should
go in at that point, butI think if you have the other circumstance
where all the favorites win, theother teams are just better than Florida State

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straight up. Well, we'll seehow it plays out. It all get
started up Friday. Yeah, there'sa lot a lot to uh to see.
I mean, this is this iscrazy, and you know, I
made the joke a couple of weeksago, but it would have been nice
to have the twelve team playoff thisyear. Unfortunately it's not here. And
that's what the committee can point tothis week and be like, this is
why we're expanding. Don't bad now, you don't have this problem next year.

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No, you know, And that'sprobably a cop out. That's their
cop out. That's what they're goingto say. And I'm right there with
you on that one. But asyou pointed out, one of the best
matchups the four best teams, ifone's without their quarterback and Texas goes and
blows out Oklahoma State, and youknow, let's just say Washington handles Oregon.
We know a Pac twelve team isgetting in, we know a SEC

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team is getting in. We knowMichigan is in right like, they're not
losing Iowa, so they're in.So there's three right there, we got
one left one spot up. Well, just say you throw in as well,
just say you throw in Texas loses, you have Florida State lose.
Maybe then Ohio State seeks their wayin. Also is said, coming into

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the championship weekend, a team lowerthan six has never made the playoff.
So in our scenario, we haveTexas jumping who is at seven now going
into the playoff, and we alsohave potentially Bama at eight going into the
playoff, so that would be afirst as well. If you're looking historically,
who knows, maybe they use OhioState's really good wins and their only
loss being to number two, mostlikely Michigan. At the end of the

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day, there's gonna be arguments,there's gonna be a conversation. Sunday morning
is going to be exciting. Ihope there's no leaks or anything, and
it's one of those things where everyone'sable to watch it live, but there's
going to be one really pissed offcoach, fan base and program out there.
I think come Sunday around twelve thirtyBeef, good luck on all your
plays. Man, always great tobreak it down with you, sirh Thursday

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night, come out and join us. We'll be live from Maggie's on the
water Front and we'll be hosting afinal watch part excuse me for Thursday Night
football Cowboys and Seahawks. It allstarts at eight o'clock. We're giving away
Birds tickets I believe those are Birdsand Giants tickets and other Middle Lake giveaways.
We had a lot of fun inour first two. This is our

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third installment. Who knows we mightbe able to add on in the new
year, but for here right now, this is our final one this year.
It's been a lot of fun,so come on out. It's gonna
be a great crowd. Maggie's inthe Waterfront and the owners already hit me
up on social, so we're excitedabout it. Beef does a great job
as well as the rest of thegame. Gang for Ryan Coyle, I
am Sean Brace. Will see youat Maggie's on Thursday night. Good luck

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on all your plays, everybody.This has been be FU fraud