March 5, 2025 • 25 mins
In the third episode of "Bending the Edge with Beef and Lettuce," Ryan Coyle and Nick McClay look at the top pass catchers ahead of the #NFLDraft.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well everyone, and welcome back to Fox Sports The Gambler.
We're back here with episode three of Bending the Edge
all Things NFL Draft. This episode, we're mixing in the
receivers and the tight ends for a little pass catchers episode.
We've already hit on the quarterbacks, we've already hit on
the running backs, and the pass catchers in this class
are getting a lot of hype as well. I think
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kind of right there neck and neck with the running backs.
So Nick, that's kind of one of where I want
to start off. If you had to rank so far
the position groups that we've touched on, you can include
the tight ends as well. Quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends.
Give me your top your four of those in order.
As we go into the twenty twenty five draft.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It'd probably go running backs first. I love this tight
end class, so I think I'll go tight end two,
then wide receiver right after that, then quarterback.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Quarterback is just brutal.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I think wide receivers a little, you know, weird because
There's a lot of good talent there, It's just I
don't know how many of them can really contribute at
the next level. Their play style was pretty nice in college,
but I don't really know how a lot of them
are going to translate in the NFL. There are a
lot of good talented players, don't get me wrong, but
I do think the top class that we've hit is
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the running.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Back position, and then going into this one with a
just kind of touch on the pass catchers, we'll talk
show on receivers, tight ends, kind of all that hit
on the top guys. Is there any guys that specifically
you think helped their case last week at the Combine
from this kind of position group and a guy that
hurt his stock as well at the Combine.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I'll start off with my guys over at Iowa State,
the two butt receivers, Jalen Nowell and Jayden Higgins. Both
of them absolutely popped off at the Combine. I mean
Jalen Nowell, I think he was first in three categories.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
One of them was the vertical and let me look,
well was it?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It was a forty one and a half inch vert
tide first eleven point two broad drunk and one point
five one ten yard split, four point three nine eight
forty yard dash the kid, the kid can.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Ply, the kid can play.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And Jayden Higgins at his size, he should not be
able to move the way he moved in a four
four seven, big reliable target in the red zone. I
know teams are gonna love. That reminds me a lot
of Michael Pittman in in Indianapolis. Smooth smooth runner only
increased his both Noel and Higgins since the season ended,
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so I think both of these guys really can contribute
at the next level.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
How about a guy who kind of heard a stock
during last week? I heard Isaiah Bond's name mentioned a
bunch because he was talking up his forty and his
his speed and he disappointed.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I guess Bond disappoint in your eyes?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
And is there anyone else that you kind of looked
at and whether it was his forty time or or
whether stuff in the drills that that kind of popped
up as red flags for you.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, Bob was definitely one.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I don't know if I would really say disappointment is
the word, because I don't know who didn't like who
told him to go out there and say that he
was gonna run four walk. You should be told in
your PR team to not say anything of that sort,
to not give any expectations of what you should be
you know, you know expecting. But Asa bon is definitely
one of them.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Lutheran Burrnon I.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Thought was going to perform a little bit. Well, it's
not like he really performed bad. I thought his forty
time is going to be a little better. But I
think also a guy that we haven't no one has
really talked about is Trey Harris. The past couple weeks,
all we're hearing is at BUKA is McMillan is where
is Hunter gonna play a cornerback wide receiver? And then
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we got the Iowa State receivers coming out doing well
in the Combine. Trey Harris didn't really run the best
forty four to five and he only played eight games
this season, but he put up stats in those eight
games sixty catches over a thousand yards average one hundred
and thirty receivers yards per game. I think he's someone
that's kind of going under the radar here, and it's
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not like he really performed well at the Combine too
to help his case. So I think a player that
is dropping down the board and might be Trey Harris.
The team could scoop him up late maybe Day two
or in the second round and have his you know,
good wide receiver two for the future.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
We guy I want to start off with at the
top after kind of going over some combine stuff. Is
the Heisman Trophy winner from last year. You have him
at the top of your pass catchers list, and it
just find it interesting because personally, I.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Think he's going to be a corner.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I think he's going to be a corner for you know,
the one hundred percent of the snaps on defensive he's healthy,
and then I think you'll probably find him mixed in
twenty to twenty five snaps.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
A game on offense. He's making headlines.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
He's making headwaves about that he's going to try and
play both ways one hundred percent that's what he wants
to do. I just can't picture it happening. And maybe
it's just because it hasn't happened before. And I'm not
saying that he's not good enough to do it on
both sides. I just can't see it happen in the NFL.
College is a different thing. You also play a lot
less games in college, that games are more or less
physical in college.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I just don't know how he's gonna stand up.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And that's Travis Hunter, obviously, the cornerback receiver out of
Colorado listed at six foot, one hundred and eighty eight pounds.
I guess I would just start off with Nick if
you had if you had the choice of only letting
him play one position, would it be corner or receiver?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
And then do you really think.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's a realistic expectation that he could say what he does,
what he wants to do, and that's play both sides
of the ball, you know, full amount of snaps.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I think he goes cornerback one hundred percent of the time.
He's I think he's a much better cornerback. He's elite
at you know, just ball. Howking he can high point
really any catch. I mean that also goes into you know,
being a receiver. But his instincts on the defensive side
of the ball is absurd. His IQ is unbelievable. He
knows where to go, he knows what routes these receivers
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are running. I just think I think he could possibly
play like ten to fifteen snaps, throw him in some
weird packages, throw him in the red zone when you
really need a score, or something like that. I don't
really think it will happen, depending on I guess, you know,
the top this system that he gets in, but it's
not like he is.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
You know nothing as a receiver.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He you know, obviously a Heisman winner, ninety six catches
over twelve hundred yards, fifteen touchdowns. He catches the ball
at a crazy rate sixty three percent contested catch right,
and he doesn't drop the ball two point three percent
drop rates.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
So I think even if you do.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Play him one hundred percent of the time on defense,
you have an option on offense. I don't necessarily think
he'll get that many opportunities, but I think you maybe
ten to fifteen snaps.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I don't think is a long shot to say, is.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
He really, in your mind at least that elite of
like a corner or that elite of a receiver that
he's worthy of this top five pick or is the
top five like attractiveness due to the ability that he
can play both ways, Like just say, like what happens
if he goes out there and he's year one and
he doesn't have a good year at corner, Like, would
you think a team would just kind of turn and
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be like, all right, that's why we picked him, Like
we have the backup play. We're gonna make him a
full time receiver. Now do you like kind of see
it as well?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I could see that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I couldn't see very well see him coming in, you know,
as a top four pick, top five pick, and if
he doesn't succeed at one of them, just move him
one hundred percent to the other side. I really, I
think he is elite at both of these positions, especially
just the instincts, the IQ, the the ability to just
know when what is happening, and when it's happening, he's
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always in the right spot. I think he's gonna have
to beef up a little bit. He's gonna he's got
a smaller frame. You know, it's gonna be hard for
him to get off the line of scrimmage as a receiver,
and on the flip side, gonna be hard to you know,
have him press up against a very physical, you know,
dominant receiver on the other side. So yeah, he could
definitely beef up a little bit. But you know, I
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don't you look at a guy like Davonte Smith his size.
His size hasn't really shown anything. I'm not saying he's
an elite as a receiver as DeVante Smith, you know,
but I mean, I just don't think that a team
will see the versatility that he has and not won
it on in their system.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
We A lot of the reason and hype behind him
with the Heisman this year was that he was the
best football player in the country. Like you could argue
that Ash and Gents he had the better season, but
he was the best football player. And a guy in
the draft that's getting hype as maybe the second best
overall football player behind Travis Hunter is Tyler Warren, the
tight end out of Penn State, six five and fifty
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six pounds. You turn on Penn State games. He was
doing just a little bit of everything this year, and
you know, being a tight end, He's not probably going
to be a top five pick, but there is a
chance that he slides into the top ten. I think
didn't really do much at the combine. He's just one
of those guys that wouldn't really have benefited. I think
from that he kind of just lets his play speak
for himself.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
He's what.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I feel like they talk about it in basketball more
than football, but I feel like he's just a gamer.
And I have been hearing like more more like comparisons
to like Rob Gronkowski. So I'm kind of interested to
hear your thoughts on Tyler Warren and what to expect
from him and could he actually slide into the top ten?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
You think, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
He could, and I don't think there's no way he
slips out of the top fifteen. If so, if he's
not in the top ten, I mean, you hear all
these you know, scouts talking about him, specifically that he
is an elite athlete, an elite playmaker, and with the
versatility that he has combined with, like you said, the
Gronk type build, the NFL ready body, you know, I
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think that makes him one of the more interesting prospects
in this draft. I mean, Jackie John Mackie Award winner,
first Team All American. He's got the resume. He was
in every single package in the Penn State offense. He
knows football. He you know, huge catch radius. You can
just throw him the ball, He'll make a play. High
point catching is one of the best in the country.
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Great after the catch, too great after the contact, he
does not get taken down easily.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
We saw it all year with Penn State. Fed in
the well pretty.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Much every single play, and it's you know, that's why
that Penn State team was as good as it was.
And like you said, with the GROC, I see a
lot of like the greg Olds and the Jeremy Shockey,
the downhill running, you know, physical play style of a
tight end. So I can definitely see him going top
ten this year.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And even like brock Bauer is the way that I know,
the Raiders offense wasn't that great, but they kind of,
you know, force fed him the football at this year
and he shined. I mean, he had the greatest rookie
season of a tight end ever. And look he with
Aid and O'Connell and Gardner Minshew, Minshew thrown him the ball.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
He still went for one hundred and twelve catches, almost.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Twelve hundred and five touchdowns, and he had some rushes
as well. So do you think that Tyler Warren has
the ability? Obviously depends on situations, but also he could
just be a guy that they force feed the ball.
Could he have a similar kind of day one impact
that Brock Bowers had this past year.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know the impact exactly what
Brock did because bro I don't know if we're ever
going to see another Brock season again. Obviously this goes
with everyone goes whatever fit he gets into, whatever system
he gets into. But he has the talent to do
it and versatility to do it. He can do it
in many ways. He had twenty six carries this year
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for two hundred and eighteen yards and four rushing touchdowns.
He could do it all. The man's an athlete. He's
a football player, like we're talking about earlier already. He
is a football player. He knows the game of football,
has the IQ lined up in a million different packages.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
So yeah, I think he can. He can make an impact.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I don't know as quite as Brock powers, but definitely,
you know, noticeable and maybe even up there for a
Rookie of the Year contention.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
All right, another pass catcher.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We moved back to the receiver spot that's been kind
of floated in the first round conversation.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Top fifteen. I've seen his name pop up a bunch
of times.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Ted McMillan, wide receiver at Arizona sixty four two hundred
nineteen pounds. I think he took a step back a
bit this year in production from last year, if I'm
not wrong, I think last year he was at least
a little bit more find his way into the end
zone a little bit. They Arizona definitely had more of
a down year this year than the year previous as well,
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so that kind of I think played hand in hand.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
But give me your thoughts on Ted McMillan.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I've heard a lot of comparisons to Drake London at
the next level.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, I like him a lot. I mean, I know
he's been kind of sliding down. Like you said, he
didn't work out at the combine. I guess I don't.
I think there was a need for him to do that.
I know there's been some players that, you know, excuse me,
there was only way to go down. I think he
could easily have gone in here and rise to stock.
But like you said, the production went down a little bit.
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Twenty twenty three stats top ten in the nation and
catches receptions fourteen hundred receiving yards last year only had
thirteen hundred. I mean it's only one hundred yards off,
But I mean, I mean the production went down. I
think I see more of the like Williams. I don't
know Drake. Drake Lunnon is an amazing player. I think
I see a little Mike Williams in him. Sometimes he
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can get a little lazy when he runs his routes.
It's knocked off his routes, but he has the NFL
ready size to you know, be able to beef up
and you know, improve on that doesn't have that top
end speed, but he has that frame, throw it up,
catch it got that. I mean, I'm not making this comparison,
but he's got them Mike Evans frame that you know
you're in within the fifteen yard line, throw back pyelon
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to tet and you know that's that's a good play
to go to. But yeah, he's been productive for the
past two years, thirteen hundred plus yards in back to
back season. So I think he's a guy that could
definitely step into a good system and be a high
level receiver in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
A guy that I was like super high on coming
into the year. I even gave him out. I think
it was like seventy five to one as like my
dark horse highs win and he just never really got
to go in the team was a bit of a
disappointment contrary to their preseason and expectations as well. And
that's Luthor Bird in the third receiver round of Missouri.
He touched on him a little bit at the beginning,
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five to eleven, two hundred eight pounds, kind of like
a deebo.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Sam was the way that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Give him the ball and he was going to make
plays with the ball in his hands after the catch,
and he just never really fully got it going this year.
I think it was a little bit of a disappointment.
It could have been just the overall system where he
cooked it and have that creative a year as well.
When I look at Luther Burden, I think he's a
guy that if he gets to like the right team,
finds himself to a creative coach, he could have a
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more kind of impactful career at the NFL level in
the college level, just because that they use him, you know,
in better ways and more effective ways. Where your thoughts
on Luther Burden and where can you kind of see
him going in the draft?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, I'm right with you.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I've been seeing him a lot in sneaking up into
the middle first round, late first round. I don't mind
him there going there at all. I know you said, Debo,
how he can be used in many different ways, those
little jets sweeps, there's a little reverses. I think I
love the more of a Curtis Samuel type. How he
can literally just like give him the ball even behind
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the line of scrimmage and do anything. We saw that
a lot in the Bill system this year and with
the Panthers the other year. But seventy five percent of
his career receptions were inside of ten yards. I don't
know if that worries me or you know, excites me
that the team that they just get the ball in
his hands and let him work. But like you said,
production dipped from twenty twenty three, I wouldn't really look
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that much into it based off of the quarterback play.
If I'm looking at Luther's tape, I'm looking at the
twenty twenty three tape and saying that this is the
this is the Luther burden that will be in on
in our system.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah he had.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I know he's kind of banged up a bunch this
year as well. It just was a I think from
Missouri's perspective as a whole season, it was just a
little bit disappointing, not as quite as disappointing as Arizona's.
But I think there's kind of go hand in hand.
Like make Millan, you went through the numbers, still had
a good year, But he was a guy that was
even talked about at the beginning of potential like Heisman,
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and so was Luther Burden. Like as two receivers, where
if two receivers were gonna win, it was gonna be
those guys, Like I don't even think I think they
were even talked about more than than Travis Hunter potentially
winning it. And I think it was because Arizona and
Missouri were both expected to.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Win a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
But yeah, Luther Burden is a guy that I feel
like we talk about this in basketball in the draft
a lot as well, but like going to be a
better pro than he was a college player, that's what
That's what I'm gonna kind of die on a hill
on that one. I believe a former five star recruit
as well, He's got all the talent. Uh, just kind
of weird spot there for him with Missouri. Another guy
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I want to hit on, Xavier ris Streppo. I believe
is how you pronounce his name, but he was just
a monster this year at Miami. He was cam Ward,
who is the favorite to go number one overall, I
believe right now in the NFL draft, he was his
go to target, and he was just every time you
saw Cam wore kind of dropping back, his eye were
going to number one and Rostrepo after the catch was awesome,
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just like a savvy route runner.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Great year and another player.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I think if you put him on like a good team,
he's going to be a guy that I think falls
maybe in the draft, like to the second or third round.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
But if he falls to like.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I don't know why, like the Lions or something comes
in my head, he's a guy that slides right in
there a team that might have another need for a
receiver on the outside, and he makes an immediate impact.
What are your thoughts on Xavier Rostrepo as he heads
into the drafts as well?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, I mean you touched on it. He's he was
the most reliable target for cam Ward. Whenever he dropped back,
he was looking for him. And we saw all those
plays where cam was scrambling, making enough, something out enough
and just running out of the pocket. Rosto is just
all over the place trying to find an open spot.
You know, he sits in those zones and if it's
not open, he'll continue to run and get open for
him and he catches the ball. He doesn't, he does
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not drop the ball. Two point eight percent drop right
last year with all the volume that he got, that's amazing.
The last two seasons, one hundred and fifty four catches
over two thousand yards and seventeen touchdowns, so he's clearly reliable.
Seventeen bench bench press reps. So he's a smaller guy,
but he can. He can put up some weight, go
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to route runner. Mainly just plays in the slot. So
I guess that's a little you know, liability. But at
the same time, like you said, you get him in
a nice system, you get him.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
The ball quick and often, like he can make a difference.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
And I'm right with you that later on in the draft,
if he's still there, there's gonna be teams that are,
you know, drooling out of the mouse seeing Gris Streppo
was still on their board.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, I could see even with like the Niner shipping
off debo, maybe like.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Going there there.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I know probably they're probably looking for Pearcel to kind
of step up there. But that's a Kyle Shanahan type
of player I could see. Here's what I want to
specifically target for the Eagles. So the Eagles last week
they go out and hire the Bowling Green head coach
to become the new quarterback coach. And I'm not going
to say this is a direct correlation with this, but
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the Bowling Green has a tight end, Harold Fannon Junior,
six three, two hundred and forty one pounds. His name
is getting talked about as like a potential SECT round pick.
The Eagles have to make a decision on Dallas Goddard's
contract coming up, whether to extend him or there's rumors
that he could be released just due to his his
cap number, and they could be looking to make a
move at tight end. I think Grant cal Kata has
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looked pretty good in limited snaps, but he's best off
as a too. Do you think a guy like Carold
fan and Junior could be a number one tight end
going forward? And do you think you know there's more
to them highering the coach as a QB coach than nothing?
Because I did hear Nick Sirianni the other day say
he talked he's good friends with the Toledo head coach,
and he talked to him a lot about Quinnion Mitchell.
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I could see another kind of connection like this here.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, I'm right, I I there's there's reasons as to what,
you know, how he does. You know, they why.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
He brings these coaches in.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I mean, I do believe he could be a number one,
and don't know right away just because of you know,
his production was absurd, but his volume was crazy, so
you know, obviously those numbers could be skewed a little bit.
But he's one of the more like unique players that
we've really ever seen at the tight end position. He's
more like a wide receiver. He's not really gonna be
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like an inline tight end. He could probably improve his
blocking a little bit, but he's also i mean six three,
two forty one. He could definitely improve on the or
work on the blocking with the size like that. But
I mean, I'm just gonna list off his resume here.
The most insane twenty twenty four resume Consensus All American MAC, MVP,
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MAC Offensive Player of the Year, two time First Team
All MAC last year. In this year, most receiving yards
by a tight end in a season with over fifteen hundred,
most receptions by a tight end in a season with
one hundred and seventeen, most receptions per game by a
tight end in a season with one hundred and twenty
per game, and most receptions per game by tight end
in a season with nine per game.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Like this, this man just eight all the years. So
if you get in the system with your.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Old coach, that would be insane, especially for the Philadelphia Eagles,
having Calcuatera who has been reliable and then having the
you know, reliable option as it may be tight end
two with Fannin.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, I mean for obviously touched the ball less, but
kind of seemed like he was, you know, the tight
end version of Ashton genty this year with everything that
did kind of at you know, the mid major level
or whatever you want to call a group of four.
All right, last guy I want to touch on, and
then you can hit on a couple of rapid fires
before we get out of here. This is a guy
that just over the past you know, three seasons or so,
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just every time his number is called he's produced, never
super eye popping numbers, never the flashies player, but you know,
reliable and I think the ball goes his way, you
can trust him to make a play at Mecca Abuca
receiver out of Ohio State, sixty one, two hundred two pounds.
I think the best term for him is just just reliable.
Like I don't think he'll ever be a number one receiver.
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And I think if you put Davonte Smith on you know,
half the teams in the league, he's probably the number one.
But he's like a perfect like comparison. I think to
Devonte with an AJ Brown, like if you put him
on a stud team, Like if if he went like
the Rams, say, with the Rams getting read of Cooper
cup Puka as your one, a Bukaz your two, I
think that's a great kind of one two punch. I
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think he's the ultimate compliment to a really high level
number one receiver. If the Bengals, you know, moved off
of T Hagans and they went out and got a
guy like a Buca to go with Jamar Chase something
like that, what are your thoughts on a Buka and
kind of that comparison that I have there as well.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
He's one of my favorite wide receivers of this bunch.
I think he has one of the highest floors and
the highest upside as a prospect in this class.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
We'll contribute to an NFL offense.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Like you said, the Rams would be a crazy uh
you know, pairing with him and Puka the way that
they both are elite rat runner runners. They both can
sit in the zone, no way to find open space.
Spatial awareness is elite for both of them. And like
you said, very experienced, reliable target for three straight years. Yeah,
it was injured a little bit in twenty twenty three,
so that's why the production was a little bit off
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in there. But in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four,
at ten touchdowns in each season, over a thousand yards
in each was you know, the favorite target for multiple
seasons and one of the highest or high powering offenses
in the nation. So I think he's one of the
best wide receivers in this draft, and I think he
should be worth a first round pick. I wouldn't see
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I wouldn't I could see him going to like the
Broncos late in twenty maybe even the Steelers there too.
I think those are good fits there. You know, Sean
Payton loves you know, going after those quarterbacks. Ohio State
wide receivers. So yeah, I think that is a spot
where Agbuka could go late first round.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, can never really go wrong with a receiver out
of Ohio State. All right, with thirty seconds left, give
me one under the radar guy that you think is
going to be a surprise player in the league, someone
that might go you know, around four round five, but
you think that is going to make a name for
themselves and could be one of those guys that we've
seen from the past few years, like a Puka, that
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that really has a strong rookie year.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, I'm liking I'm not the production really has not
been there. But Stavian Williams at of TCO, He's one
of the freakiest athletes that we will see. Six five,
two thirty prototypical size as an NFL you know receiver.
He is a little you know, you can also line
him up in the running. He's ran the ball multiple times,
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which at this player of his size is kind of absurd.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
But him and Jack Besch.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
At a TCU, those are two guys that will make
a difference at the next level. I think Savion is more,
you know, a project developmental type of guy. But I
think he's someone he ran a four four eight at
six' five six', four sorry one five to two ten.
YARDS split i think you know you get you get
minute system that could, you know give him the ball,
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in space he'll he'll make.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
A difference.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
All, right well here a little crash course there on
some of the top receivers and, tight ends as, we
said over these next, few weeks kind of the, crash
course and then we'll get a little bit more. In
depth we're still just at the Beginning, of march still
just three, episodes in but that'll do It for Bending
The edge, episode three talking, past catchers receivers and. Tight
ends we'll be back. Next week we'll hit on some
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offensive lineman and some. Defensive lineman a little two for
one special there as that's looking kind of like the
strength of this class on the on, the trench in,
the trenches on both sides of.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
The ball so looking forward to getting. Into that we'll
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well everyone, and welcome back to Fox Sports The Gambler.
We're back here with episode three of Bending the Edge
all Things NFL Draft. This episode, we're mixing in the
receivers and the tight ends for a little pass catchers episode.
We've already hit on the quarterbacks, we've already hit on
the running backs, and the pass catchers in this class
are getting a lot of hype as well. I think
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kind of right there neck and neck with the running backs.
So Nick, that's kind of one of where I want
to start off. If you had to rank so far
the position groups that we've touched on, you can include
the tight ends as well. Quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends.
Give me your top your four of those in order.
As we go into the twenty twenty five draft.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It'd probably go running backs first. I love this tight
end class, so I think I'll go tight end two,
then wide receiver right after that, then quarterback.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Quarterback is just brutal.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I think wide receivers a little, you know, weird because
There's a lot of good talent there, It's just I
don't know how many of them can really contribute at
the next level. Their play style was pretty nice in college,
but I don't really know how a lot of them
are going to translate in the NFL. There are a
lot of good talented players, don't get me wrong, but
I do think the top class that we've hit is
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the running.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Back position, and then going into this one with a
just kind of touch on the pass catchers, we'll talk
show on receivers, tight ends, kind of all that hit
on the top guys. Is there any guys that specifically
you think helped their case last week at the Combine
from this kind of position group and a guy that
hurt his stock as well at the Combine.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I'll start off with my guys over at Iowa State,
the two butt receivers, Jalen Nowell and Jayden Higgins. Both
of them absolutely popped off at the Combine. I mean
Jalen Nowell, I think he was first in three categories.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
One of them was the vertical and let me look,
well was it?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It was a forty one and a half inch vert
tide first eleven point two broad drunk and one point
five one ten yard split, four point three nine eight
forty yard dash the kid, the kid can.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Ply, the kid can play.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And Jayden Higgins at his size, he should not be
able to move the way he moved in a four
four seven, big reliable target in the red zone. I
know teams are gonna love. That reminds me a lot
of Michael Pittman in in Indianapolis. Smooth smooth runner only
increased his both Noel and Higgins since the season ended,
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so I think both of these guys really can contribute
at the next level.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
How about a guy who kind of heard a stock
during last week? I heard Isaiah Bond's name mentioned a
bunch because he was talking up his forty and his
his speed and he disappointed.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I guess Bond disappoint in your eyes?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
And is there anyone else that you kind of looked
at and whether it was his forty time or or
whether stuff in the drills that that kind of popped
up as red flags for you.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, Bob was definitely one.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I don't know if I would really say disappointment is
the word, because I don't know who didn't like who
told him to go out there and say that he
was gonna run four walk. You should be told in
your PR team to not say anything of that sort,
to not give any expectations of what you should be
you know, you know expecting. But Asa bon is definitely
one of them.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Lutheran Burrnon I.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Thought was going to perform a little bit. Well, it's
not like he really performed bad. I thought his forty
time is going to be a little better. But I
think also a guy that we haven't no one has
really talked about is Trey Harris. The past couple weeks,
all we're hearing is at BUKA is McMillan is where
is Hunter gonna play a cornerback wide receiver? And then
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we got the Iowa State receivers coming out doing well
in the Combine. Trey Harris didn't really run the best
forty four to five and he only played eight games
this season, but he put up stats in those eight
games sixty catches over a thousand yards average one hundred
and thirty receivers yards per game. I think he's someone
that's kind of going under the radar here, and it's
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not like he really performed well at the Combine too
to help his case. So I think a player that
is dropping down the board and might be Trey Harris.
The team could scoop him up late maybe Day two
or in the second round and have his you know,
good wide receiver two for the future.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
We guy I want to start off with at the
top after kind of going over some combine stuff. Is
the Heisman Trophy winner from last year. You have him
at the top of your pass catchers list, and it
just find it interesting because personally, I.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Think he's going to be a corner.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I think he's going to be a corner for you know,
the one hundred percent of the snaps on defensive he's healthy,
and then I think you'll probably find him mixed in
twenty to twenty five snaps.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
A game on offense. He's making headlines.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
He's making headwaves about that he's going to try and
play both ways one hundred percent that's what he wants
to do. I just can't picture it happening. And maybe
it's just because it hasn't happened before. And I'm not
saying that he's not good enough to do it on
both sides. I just can't see it happen in the NFL.
College is a different thing. You also play a lot
less games in college, that games are more or less
physical in college.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I just don't know how he's gonna stand up.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And that's Travis Hunter, obviously, the cornerback receiver out of
Colorado listed at six foot, one hundred and eighty eight pounds.
I guess I would just start off with Nick if
you had if you had the choice of only letting
him play one position, would it be corner or receiver?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
And then do you really think.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's a realistic expectation that he could say what he does,
what he wants to do, and that's play both sides
of the ball, you know, full amount of snaps.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I think he goes cornerback one hundred percent of the time.
He's I think he's a much better cornerback. He's elite
at you know, just ball. Howking he can high point
really any catch. I mean that also goes into you know,
being a receiver. But his instincts on the defensive side
of the ball is absurd. His IQ is unbelievable. He
knows where to go, he knows what routes these receivers
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are running. I just think I think he could possibly
play like ten to fifteen snaps, throw him in some
weird packages, throw him in the red zone when you
really need a score, or something like that. I don't
really think it will happen, depending on I guess, you know,
the top this system that he gets in, but it's
not like he is.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
You know nothing as a receiver.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He you know, obviously a Heisman winner, ninety six catches
over twelve hundred yards, fifteen touchdowns. He catches the ball
at a crazy rate sixty three percent contested catch right,
and he doesn't drop the ball two point three percent
drop rates.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
So I think even if you do.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Play him one hundred percent of the time on defense,
you have an option on offense. I don't necessarily think
he'll get that many opportunities, but I think you maybe
ten to fifteen snaps.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I don't think is a long shot to say, is.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
He really, in your mind at least that elite of
like a corner or that elite of a receiver that
he's worthy of this top five pick or is the
top five like attractiveness due to the ability that he
can play both ways, Like just say, like what happens
if he goes out there and he's year one and
he doesn't have a good year at corner, Like, would
you think a team would just kind of turn and
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be like, all right, that's why we picked him, Like
we have the backup play. We're gonna make him a
full time receiver. Now do you like kind of see
it as well?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I could see that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I couldn't see very well see him coming in, you know,
as a top four pick, top five pick, and if
he doesn't succeed at one of them, just move him
one hundred percent to the other side. I really, I
think he is elite at both of these positions, especially
just the instincts, the IQ, the the ability to just
know when what is happening, and when it's happening, he's
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always in the right spot. I think he's gonna have
to beef up a little bit. He's gonna he's got
a smaller frame. You know, it's gonna be hard for
him to get off the line of scrimmage as a receiver,
and on the flip side, gonna be hard to you know,
have him press up against a very physical, you know,
dominant receiver on the other side. So yeah, he could
definitely beef up a little bit. But you know, I
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don't you look at a guy like Davonte Smith his size.
His size hasn't really shown anything. I'm not saying he's
an elite as a receiver as DeVante Smith, you know,
but I mean, I just don't think that a team
will see the versatility that he has and not won
it on in their system.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
We A lot of the reason and hype behind him
with the Heisman this year was that he was the
best football player in the country. Like you could argue
that Ash and Gents he had the better season, but
he was the best football player. And a guy in
the draft that's getting hype as maybe the second best
overall football player behind Travis Hunter is Tyler Warren, the
tight end out of Penn State, six five and fifty
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six pounds. You turn on Penn State games. He was
doing just a little bit of everything this year, and
you know, being a tight end, He's not probably going
to be a top five pick, but there is a
chance that he slides into the top ten. I think
didn't really do much at the combine. He's just one
of those guys that wouldn't really have benefited. I think
from that he kind of just lets his play speak
for himself.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
He's what.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I feel like they talk about it in basketball more
than football, but I feel like he's just a gamer.
And I have been hearing like more more like comparisons
to like Rob Gronkowski. So I'm kind of interested to
hear your thoughts on Tyler Warren and what to expect
from him and could he actually slide into the top ten?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
You think, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
He could, and I don't think there's no way he
slips out of the top fifteen. If so, if he's
not in the top ten, I mean, you hear all
these you know, scouts talking about him, specifically that he
is an elite athlete, an elite playmaker, and with the
versatility that he has combined with, like you said, the
Gronk type build, the NFL ready body, you know, I
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think that makes him one of the more interesting prospects
in this draft. I mean, Jackie John Mackie Award winner,
first Team All American. He's got the resume. He was
in every single package in the Penn State offense. He
knows football. He you know, huge catch radius. You can
just throw him the ball, He'll make a play. High
point catching is one of the best in the country.
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Great after the catch, too great after the contact, he
does not get taken down easily.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
We saw it all year with Penn State. Fed in
the well pretty.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Much every single play, and it's you know, that's why
that Penn State team was as good as it was.
And like you said, with the GROC, I see a
lot of like the greg Olds and the Jeremy Shockey,
the downhill running, you know, physical play style of a
tight end. So I can definitely see him going top
ten this year.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And even like brock Bauer is the way that I know,
the Raiders offense wasn't that great, but they kind of,
you know, force fed him the football at this year
and he shined. I mean, he had the greatest rookie
season of a tight end ever. And look he with
Aid and O'Connell and Gardner Minshew, Minshew thrown him the ball.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
He still went for one hundred and twelve catches, almost.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Twelve hundred and five touchdowns, and he had some rushes
as well. So do you think that Tyler Warren has
the ability? Obviously depends on situations, but also he could
just be a guy that they force feed the ball.
Could he have a similar kind of day one impact
that Brock Bowers had this past year.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know the impact exactly what
Brock did because bro I don't know if we're ever
going to see another Brock season again. Obviously this goes
with everyone goes whatever fit he gets into, whatever system
he gets into. But he has the talent to do
it and versatility to do it. He can do it
in many ways. He had twenty six carries this year
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for two hundred and eighteen yards and four rushing touchdowns.
He could do it all. The man's an athlete. He's
a football player, like we're talking about earlier already. He
is a football player. He knows the game of football,
has the IQ lined up in a million different packages.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
So yeah, I think he can. He can make an impact.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I don't know as quite as Brock powers, but definitely,
you know, noticeable and maybe even up there for a
Rookie of the Year contention.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
All right, another pass catcher.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We moved back to the receiver spot that's been kind
of floated in the first round conversation.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Top fifteen. I've seen his name pop up a bunch
of times.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Ted McMillan, wide receiver at Arizona sixty four two hundred
nineteen pounds. I think he took a step back a
bit this year in production from last year, if I'm
not wrong, I think last year he was at least
a little bit more find his way into the end
zone a little bit. They Arizona definitely had more of
a down year this year than the year previous as well,
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so that kind of I think played hand in hand.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
But give me your thoughts on Ted McMillan.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I've heard a lot of comparisons to Drake London at
the next level.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, I like him a lot. I mean, I know
he's been kind of sliding down. Like you said, he
didn't work out at the combine. I guess I don't.
I think there was a need for him to do that.
I know there's been some players that, you know, excuse me,
there was only way to go down. I think he
could easily have gone in here and rise to stock.
But like you said, the production went down a little bit.
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Twenty twenty three stats top ten in the nation and
catches receptions fourteen hundred receiving yards last year only had
thirteen hundred. I mean it's only one hundred yards off,
But I mean, I mean the production went down. I
think I see more of the like Williams. I don't
know Drake. Drake Lunnon is an amazing player. I think
I see a little Mike Williams in him. Sometimes he
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can get a little lazy when he runs his routes.
It's knocked off his routes, but he has the NFL
ready size to you know, be able to beef up
and you know, improve on that doesn't have that top
end speed, but he has that frame, throw it up,
catch it got that. I mean, I'm not making this comparison,
but he's got them Mike Evans frame that you know
you're in within the fifteen yard line, throw back pyelon
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to tet and you know that's that's a good play
to go to. But yeah, he's been productive for the
past two years, thirteen hundred plus yards in back to
back season. So I think he's a guy that could
definitely step into a good system and be a high
level receiver in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
A guy that I was like super high on coming
into the year. I even gave him out. I think
it was like seventy five to one as like my
dark horse highs win and he just never really got
to go in the team was a bit of a
disappointment contrary to their preseason and expectations as well. And
that's Luthor Bird in the third receiver round of Missouri.
He touched on him a little bit at the beginning,
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five to eleven, two hundred eight pounds, kind of like
a deebo.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Sam was the way that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Give him the ball and he was going to make
plays with the ball in his hands after the catch,
and he just never really fully got it going this year.
I think it was a little bit of a disappointment.
It could have been just the overall system where he
cooked it and have that creative a year as well.
When I look at Luther Burden, I think he's a
guy that if he gets to like the right team,
finds himself to a creative coach, he could have a
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more kind of impactful career at the NFL level in
the college level, just because that they use him, you know,
in better ways and more effective ways. Where your thoughts
on Luther Burden and where can you kind of see
him going in the draft?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, I'm right with you.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I've been seeing him a lot in sneaking up into
the middle first round, late first round. I don't mind
him there going there at all. I know you said, Debo,
how he can be used in many different ways, those
little jets sweeps, there's a little reverses. I think I
love the more of a Curtis Samuel type. How he
can literally just like give him the ball even behind
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the line of scrimmage and do anything. We saw that
a lot in the Bill system this year and with
the Panthers the other year. But seventy five percent of
his career receptions were inside of ten yards. I don't
know if that worries me or you know, excites me
that the team that they just get the ball in
his hands and let him work. But like you said,
production dipped from twenty twenty three, I wouldn't really look
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that much into it based off of the quarterback play.
If I'm looking at Luther's tape, I'm looking at the
twenty twenty three tape and saying that this is the
this is the Luther burden that will be in on
in our system.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah he had.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I know he's kind of banged up a bunch this
year as well. It just was a I think from
Missouri's perspective as a whole season, it was just a
little bit disappointing, not as quite as disappointing as Arizona's.
But I think there's kind of go hand in hand.
Like make Millan, you went through the numbers, still had
a good year, But he was a guy that was
even talked about at the beginning of potential like Heisman,
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and so was Luther Burden. Like as two receivers, where
if two receivers were gonna win, it was gonna be
those guys, Like I don't even think I think they
were even talked about more than than Travis Hunter potentially
winning it. And I think it was because Arizona and
Missouri were both expected to.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Win a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
But yeah, Luther Burden is a guy that I feel
like we talk about this in basketball in the draft
a lot as well, but like going to be a
better pro than he was a college player, that's what
That's what I'm gonna kind of die on a hill
on that one. I believe a former five star recruit
as well, He's got all the talent. Uh, just kind
of weird spot there for him with Missouri. Another guy
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I want to hit on, Xavier ris Streppo. I believe
is how you pronounce his name, but he was just
a monster this year at Miami. He was cam Ward,
who is the favorite to go number one overall, I
believe right now in the NFL draft, he was his
go to target, and he was just every time you
saw Cam wore kind of dropping back, his eye were
going to number one and Rostrepo after the catch was awesome,
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just like a savvy route runner.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Great year and another player.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I think if you put him on like a good team,
he's going to be a guy that I think falls
maybe in the draft, like to the second or third round.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
But if he falls to like.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I don't know why, like the Lions or something comes
in my head, he's a guy that slides right in
there a team that might have another need for a
receiver on the outside, and he makes an immediate impact.
What are your thoughts on Xavier Rostrepo as he heads
into the drafts as well?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, I mean you touched on it. He's he was
the most reliable target for cam Ward. Whenever he dropped back,
he was looking for him. And we saw all those
plays where cam was scrambling, making enough, something out enough
and just running out of the pocket. Rosto is just
all over the place trying to find an open spot.
You know, he sits in those zones and if it's
not open, he'll continue to run and get open for
him and he catches the ball. He doesn't, he does
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not drop the ball. Two point eight percent drop right
last year with all the volume that he got, that's amazing.
The last two seasons, one hundred and fifty four catches
over two thousand yards and seventeen touchdowns, so he's clearly reliable.
Seventeen bench bench press reps. So he's a smaller guy,
but he can. He can put up some weight, go
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to route runner. Mainly just plays in the slot. So
I guess that's a little you know, liability. But at
the same time, like you said, you get him in
a nice system, you get him.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
The ball quick and often, like he can make a difference.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
And I'm right with you that later on in the draft,
if he's still there, there's gonna be teams that are,
you know, drooling out of the mouse seeing Gris Streppo
was still on their board.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, I could see even with like the Niner shipping
off debo, maybe like.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Going there there.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I know probably they're probably looking for Pearcel to kind
of step up there. But that's a Kyle Shanahan type
of player I could see. Here's what I want to
specifically target for the Eagles. So the Eagles last week
they go out and hire the Bowling Green head coach
to become the new quarterback coach. And I'm not going
to say this is a direct correlation with this, but
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the Bowling Green has a tight end, Harold Fannon Junior,
six three, two hundred and forty one pounds. His name
is getting talked about as like a potential SECT round pick.
The Eagles have to make a decision on Dallas Goddard's
contract coming up, whether to extend him or there's rumors
that he could be released just due to his his
cap number, and they could be looking to make a
move at tight end. I think Grant cal Kata has
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looked pretty good in limited snaps, but he's best off
as a too. Do you think a guy like Carold
fan and Junior could be a number one tight end
going forward? And do you think you know there's more
to them highering the coach as a QB coach than nothing?
Because I did hear Nick Sirianni the other day say
he talked he's good friends with the Toledo head coach,
and he talked to him a lot about Quinnion Mitchell.
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I could see another kind of connection like this here.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, I'm right, I I there's there's reasons as to what,
you know, how he does. You know, they why.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
He brings these coaches in.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I mean, I do believe he could be a number one,
and don't know right away just because of you know,
his production was absurd, but his volume was crazy, so
you know, obviously those numbers could be skewed a little bit.
But he's one of the more like unique players that
we've really ever seen at the tight end position. He's
more like a wide receiver. He's not really gonna be
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like an inline tight end. He could probably improve his
blocking a little bit, but he's also i mean six three,
two forty one. He could definitely improve on the or
work on the blocking with the size like that. But
I mean, I'm just gonna list off his resume here.
The most insane twenty twenty four resume Consensus All American MAC, MVP,
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MAC Offensive Player of the Year, two time First Team
All MAC last year. In this year, most receiving yards
by a tight end in a season with over fifteen hundred,
most receptions by a tight end in a season with
one hundred and seventeen, most receptions per game by a
tight end in a season with one hundred and twenty
per game, and most receptions per game by tight end
in a season with nine per game.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Like this, this man just eight all the years. So
if you get in the system with your.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Old coach, that would be insane, especially for the Philadelphia Eagles,
having Calcuatera who has been reliable and then having the
you know, reliable option as it may be tight end
two with Fannin.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, I mean for obviously touched the ball less, but
kind of seemed like he was, you know, the tight
end version of Ashton genty this year with everything that
did kind of at you know, the mid major level
or whatever you want to call a group of four.
All right, last guy I want to touch on, and
then you can hit on a couple of rapid fires
before we get out of here. This is a guy
that just over the past you know, three seasons or so,
(21:43):
just every time his number is called he's produced, never
super eye popping numbers, never the flashies player, but you know,
reliable and I think the ball goes his way, you
can trust him to make a play at Mecca Abuca
receiver out of Ohio State, sixty one, two hundred two pounds.
I think the best term for him is just just reliable.
Like I don't think he'll ever be a number one receiver.
(22:04):
And I think if you put Davonte Smith on you know,
half the teams in the league, he's probably the number one.
But he's like a perfect like comparison. I think to
Devonte with an AJ Brown, like if you put him
on a stud team, Like if if he went like
the Rams, say, with the Rams getting read of Cooper
cup Puka as your one, a Bukaz your two, I
think that's a great kind of one two punch. I
(22:24):
think he's the ultimate compliment to a really high level
number one receiver. If the Bengals, you know, moved off
of T Hagans and they went out and got a
guy like a Buca to go with Jamar Chase something
like that, what are your thoughts on a Buka and
kind of that comparison that I have there as well.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
He's one of my favorite wide receivers of this bunch.
I think he has one of the highest floors and
the highest upside as a prospect in this class.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
We'll contribute to an NFL offense.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Like you said, the Rams would be a crazy uh
you know, pairing with him and Puka the way that
they both are elite rat runner runners. They both can
sit in the zone, no way to find open space.
Spatial awareness is elite for both of them. And like
you said, very experienced, reliable target for three straight years. Yeah,
it was injured a little bit in twenty twenty three,
so that's why the production was a little bit off
(23:12):
in there. But in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four,
at ten touchdowns in each season, over a thousand yards
in each was you know, the favorite target for multiple
seasons and one of the highest or high powering offenses
in the nation. So I think he's one of the
best wide receivers in this draft, and I think he
should be worth a first round pick. I wouldn't see
(23:33):
I wouldn't I could see him going to like the
Broncos late in twenty maybe even the Steelers there too.
I think those are good fits there. You know, Sean
Payton loves you know, going after those quarterbacks. Ohio State
wide receivers. So yeah, I think that is a spot
where Agbuka could go late first round.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, can never really go wrong with a receiver out
of Ohio State. All right, with thirty seconds left, give
me one under the radar guy that you think is
going to be a surprise player in the league, someone
that might go you know, around four round five, but
you think that is going to make a name for
themselves and could be one of those guys that we've
seen from the past few years, like a Puka, that
(24:12):
that really has a strong rookie year.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, I'm liking I'm not the production really has not
been there. But Stavian Williams at of TCO, He's one
of the freakiest athletes that we will see. Six five,
two thirty prototypical size as an NFL you know receiver.
He is a little you know, you can also line
him up in the running. He's ran the ball multiple times,
(24:36):
which at this player of his size is kind of absurd.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
But him and Jack Besch.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
At a TCU, those are two guys that will make
a difference at the next level. I think Savion is more,
you know, a project developmental type of guy. But I
think he's someone he ran a four four eight at
six' five six', four sorry one five to two ten.
YARDS split i think you know you get you get
minute system that could, you know give him the ball,
(25:03):
in space he'll he'll make.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
A difference.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
All, right well here a little crash course there on
some of the top receivers and, tight ends as, we
said over these next, few weeks kind of the, crash
course and then we'll get a little bit more. In
depth we're still just at the Beginning, of march still
just three, episodes in but that'll do It for Bending
The edge, episode three talking, past catchers receivers and. Tight
ends we'll be back. Next week we'll hit on some
(25:28):
offensive lineman and some. Defensive lineman a little two for
one special there as that's looking kind of like the
strength of this class on the on, the trench in,
the trenches on both sides of.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
The ball so looking forward to getting. Into that we'll
be back next week Here On. Fox sports. The game
if you.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Can wager, on it we're talking. About it It's the
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