March 15, 2025 • 27 mins
In the fourth episode of "Bending the Edge with Beef and Lettuce," Ryan Coyle and Nick McClay look at the BEEF UP FRONT (OL/DL) ahead of the #NFLDraft.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Bending the Edge Episode four,
where today we will be talking a little bit about
some beef up front.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Talking some offensive line and some defensive linemen.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Our next episode we're gonna say for edge rushers and linebackers,
So really focusing on offensive linemen today and some interior
defensive linemen. Man, this is a really good defensive line
in class. I think it's kind of between defensive line
and running backs from what I've gathered as kind of
the strongest positions in this draft class. So Nick, looking
forward to to getting into this with you. I guess
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when we start, would you say that this is a
stronger offensive line or defensive line class as a whole.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
As a whole, I probably go defensive line, including the
edge dreshers too. But even though we're only going over
the d line the interior right now, but I still
think that this defensive line class is honestly one of
the better ones that we've seen a little bit. Not
knocking the offensive line at all because they're obviously a
bunch of players that could be plug and play, and
there's a lot of guys that can play multiple positions
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on the offensive line, you know, going from guard, going
from tackle, or vice versa. I think there's a lot
of guys that could be both, and I think having
that ability to play both, being versatile will only increase
your stock in any type of scheme or system at
the next level. So overall, I think the defensive line
would probably be the better of the two.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
But it's not a knock on offensive line at all.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, I think the I mean, I'm not going to
use the term consensus because obviously some people have different opinions,
but you know, seven out of ten, eight out of ten.
Number one overall prospects according to most people, is Abdel Carter,
who's an edge rusher, So we won't be talking about
him today, but you know, if you kind of want
to lump him into the defensive line group as well,
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it certainly makes a case for a strong group.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
But first player I want to get into is on
the defensive line, interior defensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I mean, I've heard some arguments, not that he's the
best prospect, but maybe the best kind of plug and
play guy when it comes to defense right now in
this draft, and that's Mason Graham, defensive lineman out of
Michigan sixty three, three hundred and eighteen pounds. Nick, give
me a little bit about Mason Grahmmt and what makes
him as a defensive tackle a potential top five pick
in this draft, which you don't really see that much.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, he's probably I would say, one of the safer
picks of this draft just with his like combo of
size and fundamentals and power, they're all pretty much NFL
ready or like you know at this point, and that
will easily make him an instant contributor for whatever defense
or scheme that he is get thrown into. So I
do think he should be worth a top five pick.
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NonStop motor, high motor, he does not stop finishes every
single play. But at the same time, he is quick,
he's agile, he knows, he's a great play recognition, elite
hands too. Reminds me a lot of Christian Wilkins, that bigger,
like stoutier type of interior defender. But he's the type
of person that will constantly be in the backfield and
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just wreck an opposing offensive game plan.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Though, the one thing I don't know if it's a knock,
but one I guess criticism that I've heard about him
as they've dived into these prospects is he's played alongside
a bunch of talented guys on that defensive line. He's
never really been the focus point of another team's kind
of game plan where it's like, all right, everything's it's
designed around stopping Mason Graham. He's benefited from playing with
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a lot of guys. Is that something that you could
agree with or or something that you're not really going
to knock a guy with for for playing on a
good team and you still believe that he's worthy of
a you know, a top five, top ten pick in
this upcoming draft.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, I could see.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I can definitely see the knock on that, just based
off of you know, you you have that many talent,
you have that much talent around you. Obviously people are
going to be zoned in on them rather than him.
But at the same time, he, you know, is still
put up these numbers last year forty five tackles, seven
of them for a loss three and a half sacks.
I mean, I know, for that's not you know, eye
popping numbers, but for an interior defender, that's not that bad.
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But at the same time, I think he could be
one of these players at the next level that you know,
is that guy that you know they zoned in on him.
Maybe someone else gets gets some time. But at the
same time, that's I don't know if it's a knock
on him, but I still think at the next level
he will make a difference in any type of way.
Being that versatile, he could get be a fee down back,
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this disruptive defensive tackle that really, like I said earlier,
rex a game plan.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
All right, let's transition over to the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Now we'll kind of go back and forth for our
twenty five minutes or so that we have. I think
that the best tackle in this class, and he's been
kind of hyped up is this the past two years
at least Will Campbell out of LSU offensive lineman. I
think he can play either tackle is what people are
projecting him at. But I think ideally if you're picking
alignment in the top five, top ten, he's going to
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be your left tackle going forward. Six six, three hundred
and twenty pounds. Was just a standout at LSU these
past few years. It was a LSU offensive line that's
really been a strong unit.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You look even back like two years.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
They had such a dynamic offense and obviously a lot
of offensive talent with Jayden Daniels and playmakers on the outside,
but the offensive line was one of the key cogs
of that as well.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
How good do you think Campbell can be?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And I guess what's kind of your your comparison for
him going forward?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Is he worthy? You have a top five, top ten
pick in your mind?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, I think he should be at least in the
top five, top six. I think he has all pro
potential in the future. He's a very athletic left tackle
that could be switched to guard, but I kind of
think he will stick a tackle. Only knock on him
is kind of his shorter arms, which makes it seems
like seem like the transition to guard will be a
lot easier. But he's played tackle the past three seasons
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and just been absolutely dominant over the last two seasons,
nine hundred and ninety four past block snaps and only
two sacks allowed while also putting up in eighty point
seven run block grady, So he can do it all
he can do. He can pass block, he can run block,
even as a freshman. As freshman he was All American
All SEC and second team All SEC as a freshman.
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Last year, First team All American All SEC. He's got
the resume, great body and frame, height and weight. Literally
the only knock on him would be his arm size.
But I think he could be a cornerstone offensive lineman,
future All Pro in whatever system that he's drafted into,
which I should I think should be top five.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, well, you just described to me kind of sounds
like like Lane Johnson in terms of his frame, his athleticism.
I think that's the thing that sticks out about Lane
the most for a guy his size is the way
he's able to move. He stayed on the field forever
pretty much knock on wood. He's been a guy that's
been extremely durable. And you said it like all Pro
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cornerstone type of tackle, a guy that you can count
on to be your tackle sixteen games, seventeen games a year,
or whatever you want to say, for the next decade
or so.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You do you think that is kind of the ceiling.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
He can reach a perennial All Pro year in a
year out just like Lane Johnson.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, I think he definitely could.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I mean, I really wouldn't want to compare anyone the lane,
but I think he could be that type of guy,
that type of cornerstone that just sticks there and the
team forever and just is dominant All Pro Pro Bowls,
you know, Leeds team in the trenches. I think he
could easily be that guy. I really would hope that
he sticks at tackle, just based off his talent.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I hope he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I mean, I know that he could succeed as a guard,
but I think that he is all cro type potential
is at tackle in the next level.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
All right, let's switch over back to the defensive line.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
This guy was a player that he was like the
number one transfer last season coming from Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
He commits to ole Miss, and he's.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
A player that when he wants to play and when
he's got his motor running, he can be a top five,
top ten player I think in this class. But he's
had motor issues, he's had attitude issues apparently as well.
Not the most coachable player from what they said about
him at ole Miss at times, and when he was
playing well, Ole Miss was playing really well. When he
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was struggling or he wasn't given a hundred percent effort,
That's when he kind of saw ole Miss struggle on
the defensive side of the ball a little bit. And
that's Walter Nolan six foot three, about three hundred pound
defensive tackle out of ole Miss, former number one I
believe overall recruit, a five star recruit at least.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
What are your thoughts on him? How do you get
the most out of him?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And is he a player that you think is worth
taking that risk on that he might not be one
hundred percent on it, might not have that one hundred
percent motor all the time. Do you think the talent
kind of outweighs that and you can get him in
the right system, in the right building, he can be an.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
All pro type of player, Pro Bowl type of player.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yeah, I do. I think he's one of those guys
that I would take a chance on.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Like you said, for number one recruit, I think depending
on who you look at. I think maybe Travis Hunter
may have been number one on some boards, but former
number one recruit on ESPN at least, I think he
has already NFL sized talent and just a blend of
explosiveness and playmaking ability. High upside, but like you said,
you never know with his motor, you never know where
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you're going to get out of him. But in an
NFL system, you know it's time to buy you you're
making the big bucks now. I think he's worth the
first round, end of the first round pick, and if
he goes into the second I think you're getting a
nice steal. But like you said, he's got to be
in the right system. He's got to be disciplined, he's
got to be, you know, locked in. But at the
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next level, you know you're you're a professional. He's got
a lock in and if he doesn't, it's on him.
He's got all the talent in the world, First Team,
all they see last year, All American, you know. I
think he can be a reliable, you know, run stopper
and even high level guy as a pass rush rusher.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
But he's got to buy in.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
He's got to lock in, and I think it's worth
the risk taking with the talent like him.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I mean, he's a player that I think the Eagles
have shown the willingness, I guess, especially with a guy
like Jalen Carter. Jillen Carter maybe a little bit of
a different beast, because he's arguably already the best defensive
tackle in the league.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
But sitting there at.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Thirty two, if Walter Nolan's on the board, or if
he's there at twenty seven to twenty eight, and you
want to trade, you know, a later round pick to
maybe move up to him to replace Milton Williams. Who
knows if they're gonna want to invest a lot of
money in Jordan Davis with having to pay a lot
of other guys. Do you think that is a potential
ideal fit, ideal selection there for the Eagle sitting at
thirty two, because we've seen this defense has been getting
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stripped and they're going to need to continue to add
young talent to it.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, that would. I would love him in an Eagle uniform.
I mean, we haven't.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
For me personally, I think that with everyone saying, you
know a lot of guys have character issues.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
You know, I'm this is football.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
If I got a guy with character issues, he goes
out there and there's a psycho on the field, as
long as he buys into my system, I'm okay with it.
You know, I don't really care as long as I
know that I can get the most out of them.
But yeah, him next to Jordan Davis, him next to
Jalen Carter, that would be a problem. That would be
talk about beef up front, that would be the definition
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of beef up front.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, that would be I think if he's a guy
that's sliding, that's kind of an ideal selection there for me,
because I do think I don't know if they're gonna
want to invest a lot in Jordan Davis going forward.
He still hasn't proven much as a pass rusher. He
still has been up and down at times. Mcfangio didn't
really even play him that much in the latter half
of the season. He came on, I think a little
bit in the playoffs, But are you really going to
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give a guy a big contract that you'd only you
only play thirty forty percent of the snaps or something.
I think that defensive tackle is going to be something
that the Eagles look to address certainly in the draft,
and Walter Nolan could kind of fit there. We'll transition
back over to the offensive line now. I think Will
Campbell is you know, as I said earlier, I'm not
going to use the term consensus, but eight or nine
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of the boards that you look at, he's the top
offensive tackle. If you're looking at ten offensive boards, there's
two guys, the offensive tackle from Missouri and then Banks,
the offensive tackle from from Texas. Give me your number
two rank those guys two and three for me if
those are your second and third tackles, and what kind
of different h differentiates those two and you know, probably
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making them both top fifteen picks on this draft.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, I'm probably going Membu too.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Just the way that he has increased his stock since
the season has ended has been unbelievable. He dominated the Combine.
He's literally only made his stock climb since the combine.
I mean since the end of the year and then
the combine. Very athletic. Has literally has the prototypical guard size.
But I think he's going to stick at tackle, and
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even if the tackle doesn't work, he's got that option
to go to guard. Barely allows any type of pressure.
His body control is amazing. He plays like the composed
like like he does not get bothered by whoever is
rushing at him. We watched the Texas A and M
tape against him, and he just devoured Nick Scoton the
whole game. I think he'll make an immediate impact on
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really any roster that he gets into. I think he
should be a top ten pick in this draft. And
I think he has the potential to like we were
talking about with with Campbell, I think he could be
an all Pro tackle or guard at the next level.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
And Banks.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I love Banks too. Three year, amazing college career, had
a little injury at the end of the year, but
you know whatever, play throw it. Former top ten overall
recruit coming into college, so he's always had that potential.
I think he also projects to be an early, you know,
plug and play tackle at the next level, very reliable,
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good fundamentals and mechanics for him, and he's been in
those big games, you know, first team All Big twelve
or twenty twenty three, then when they moved to SEC,
first team All SEC, first Team All American. So he's
also got the resume. I think he's got both the
size and the tools to become a very reliable tackle
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, I think we can see with these contracts that
some of these linemen are getting in free agency, even
like the guard spot guards are getting paid like worth
of twenty million a year now, So it just goes
to show you how much these teams are investing in
the offensive line. I think there's a legit shot we
see a run on these offensive tack Those top three
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that we talked about probably gone by, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Pick fifteen, pick sixteen. It wouldn't really surprise me.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
This guy is a little bit of a more polarizing
I think the offensive linemen are more consensus, like top fifteen,
top twenty picks the offensive tackles that we've talked about
thus far. When you get to the defensive line, I
think a lot of opinions kind of differentiate. And this
is a guy I know you like, I know Mark
Henry Junior likes as well. Dean Walker, defensive lineman out
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of Kentucky, big boy, six seven, three hundred and thirty
one pounds.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
He's a guy that get off the bus guy. I
think I like to call him that.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
He's like you put him as the first guy getting
off the bus, and that's the intimidating type of presence.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Jordan Davis, I see you kind of have a comp
for him there.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I feel like that's a perfect comparison for what Jordan
Davis was coming out of college. I do think Walker
might be a little bit better of a pass rusher,
but another guy, It's like, how much do I want
to invest in a guy that, at least as of
right now, probably is like a two down player.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I don't know if we'll ever fully develop.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Into a three down player, but I think the Eagles
have kind of found a.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Good sweet spot for Jordan Davis.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
But I still think, especially where the Eagles picked him,
they were expecting a little bit more and for him
to be a little bit more advanced at the stage,
still young in his career just wrapped up year three.
Do you see Walker kind of taking a similar path
as Jordan Davis? Already think he can be even better
than Jordan Davis has been in his early early days
as an Eagle.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I honestly think he could be.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
A little better.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Like you said, he is more of a pass rusher
than Jordan Davis's.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
And when I look at Dean Walker.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I mainly look at you got to look at that
twenty three tape this past year. Report just came out
in twenty twenty where he was playing with a fractured spine,
which is absurd for a defensive tackle. Like I don't
understand how he was still standing, but in twenty twenty three,
he led all college in tier defensive lineman with fifty
one pressures and won twenty one percent of his rushes
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on true pass attempts, which for a guy at six
seven three point thirty is in playing on the inside,
crazy athleticism for six seven three thirty, great upper body strength.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I think he does.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
He has the traits, he has the upside to be
that consistent interior force. But like you said, do you
want to trust him playing all three downs or is
he more of a just a two down guy, more
of a raw prospect. You get him in a right system,
teach him up, you know, make him learn his role.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I think he'll probably develop into a dominant force on
the front line.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
He's another player where if you're like, if you're sitting
there at the end of round one and you're kind
of hesitant on because Jordan Davis going into your four,
so you'll have to pick up the option.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I believe at some point this offseason, I think is
the rule or you know, decide to let him walk.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Is he a guy that you could look at It's like,
all right, we basically view these guys as the same
type of player. Do we want to kind of make
the investment in him now let Jordan Davis walk next year.
Do you think that is a path that you could
potentially see, or like, I'm out wasting another resource on
a potential two down player.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I'd like to go somewhere else with that. I would.
I would.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I don't know if they do that at the end
of the first round, if they don't like any of
the defensive linemen that are there, maybe they trade back
and hope he's still there. I don't know if he
really is going to go in that late first round,
but if you have a high if they have high
grain on him, then you might as well take to
take the risk and hope that he can fill in
the Jordan Davis role that you wanted Jordan Davis to do.
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But at the same time, there's still a little there's
more other defensive lineman that could that you go after,
like a Alexander from Toledo, a Harmon from Oregon if
there's a but they're not the Jordan Davis big body
type size. So if you want that replacement, then you're
looking at Walker here.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Another guy I want to touch on the defensive line.
We touched about on his teammate earlier, with Mason Graham
and Kenneth Grant, another defensive linemount in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Six four three thirty one.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I was saying at the beginning, Mason Grant's played with
a lot of talented players across the defensive line during
his Michigan career, and for the past year or so
he's been plugged up right next to Kenneth Grant.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Those are two dehuminant defensive linemen.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Grant, I'm not sure if he's going to be a
first rounder, but Mason Graham at worst the top fifteen pick,
So two potential, like let's just call it top fifty
players playing next to each other.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And that was what I was saying at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's like he hasn't really seen much double teams or whatever.
He's had a lot of single team action just because
of who else he had.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
And then this past.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Year, even with the struggles that they had, they still
had Wing Martindale as a defensive coordinator, so that was
a blitz heavy defense too. You're getting a lot of
kind of one on one looks at times when you're
these Michigan defensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
What makes Grant a different player than Graham and.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Goes back to my question at the beginning, like another
player that's seen a lot of one on one looks,
why is he a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
More down the board do you think than Graham?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And do you kind of knock him it all for
playing next to a bunch of great players as well.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yeah, honestly, I don't know why he's that down the board.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I think he's he should be going maybe middle at
his peak late first round. I guess you can knock
the production because they do have Graham on that offense.
But in the last two seasons he had eight sacks,
fifty pressures, almost our thirty nine run stops. I mean,
he has proven to be a productive force on the
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Michigan defensive line. Big body defender. I think he takes
up a lot of space as a run stopper. And
he's also very smart, very high IQ football IQ. He
knows where to be, he knows where you know running
backs are going to go, he knows how to fill gaps.
So yeah, I think he could be taken at the
end of the first round, but I wouldn't I wouldn't
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be surprised if as the draft you know comes up,
he starts to rise his stock a little bit as
the draft you know, gets closer, all.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Right, Like we said at the beginning of all these episodes,
it is kind of just like a crash course on
some of the top names. Will certainly we have still
about a month and a half to really get into
the weeds on these prospects.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
But I want to talk about one offensive guard.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I've heard a lot of good things about him in
recent weeks, and one of the things I heard most
about him was like, and this is Tyler Booker, offensive
guard out at Alabama. Thing I heard most about him
he was one of the more impressive guys at the
combine in terms of interviews and also just players. Like
when scouts were visiting colleges this year, Tyler Booker was
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known as kind of a leader in that Alabama locker room,
a holdover from Nick sabans Era, and when things were going,
you know rough at times this year, he was kind
of saying, like, guys, this isn't the standard I know
Saban's out here anymore, but a guy that's just not
afraid to step up, and I think every offensive line
kind of needs that. Do you look at Tyler Booker
as a potential you know, building block as a guard.
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We were just talking about guards getting over twenty million
a year. Now you look at a guy like Landon Dickerson,
Ryan Kelly playing center or guard effect with the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But these guys are getting paid.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Now do you do you look at Tyler Booker as
one of the next kind of star interior defense or
offensive linemen, and what do you think kind of his
ceiling is going forward?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I could see that he's one of those guys, like
you said, just a leader in the locker room, doesn't
take anything for granted, and you love that in an
offensive lineman. He goes out there and just dominates whoever
is ahead of him. He's not really that type of
blocker that will like get out in space on those
outside zones.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Like I'm seeing some people.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Mock him to the to the Dolphins, and I don't
really like that fit for him, because he's not that
type of guy to you know, go outside and bounce outside.
He's that type of maler that is inside that you know,
like punching in the face, power, physical guy with a
great length and you know, mass combination and he's one
of those guys that does not or that finishes every
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single rep until the whistle. He's like that the blind
side clip taking him to the buses. He will take
you to the buses. Heavy hands, He's got mauling hands.
So like you said, he's one of those guys that
you have him in your locker room. He's only gonna benefit,
He's only going to make your team better. So I'm
in that camp that he's gonna be one of those
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offensive guards in the future to get paid.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Another potential thing that the Eagles can maybe look at.
I don't know if they'll actually take a guard there,
but I know they just brought in Kenyan Green, they
saw Tyler Steen, but I don't think any of those
guys are for sure locked in as a starter at guard.
Could be another spot there, and the Eagles have had
some success in recent years drafting guys from Alabama, namely
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you know, DeVante Smith and Dickerson, obviously Jaln Hurts as well.
Give me one more defensive lineman, Nick, that you want
to touch on real quick in two minutes that we
didn't get to talk to you talk about yet. As
we said, we'll be diving into these guys a little
bit more deeper as we go on throughout the next
few weeks.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Probably I'm gonna go with Derek Harmon.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I love him at Oregon six' five almost three point,
fifteen very one of those like. Compact you, know three
down linemen can, dominate you, know.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
At the point of.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Attack strength is, amazing very good in the wrong game
like we're talking about With. Tyler booker fills in those,
gaps very wide. Base HE'S i think he should be
a first round pick end of the first. ROUND i
think he has improved every single year that went since
he's come From Michigan. STATE a second Team All Big,
ten fifty five, pressures which was first among defensive, tackles
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and a seventeen point six percent piss rush win, rate
which was fourth among defensive.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Tackles so he gets.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
HOME i think he could Probably i've seen him miss
a few tackles that a player of his talent should
be able to, make SO i think he can improve on,
that which is probably why stock hasn't really risen a little.
Bit BUT i think he should be a first round
pick at the end of the first, round and if
he goes in the second, round you're getting a Steal Derek,
Harmon oregon defensive.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Tackle all, right, well that will do it For bending
The Edge episode. Four next, episode we actually will be
talking about bending The edge and some of the these edge,
rushers and according to your, notes there's a there's a
slew of them that can potentially be going in the first,
round but next week to be decided if we'll be.
Back we Got March badness next, week so it might
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be a little bit more prioritizing that for that. Week
but then after, that you, know we still got the
edge Of March madness the later, rounds but definitely gonna
be doing some more deep dives going. Forward on THE Nfl,
draft any last second comments set before we head.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Out, HONESTLY i only had one, question and this has
nothing to do with defensive lineman or offensive. Lineman this
has to do with number one overall pick with The.
Titans not with all these quarterback you know Going Gino
smith moving, On Sam donald moving On titans haven't really
(25:49):
been linked in any quarterback. Talk do you think that
is locking in Cam ward at number?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
ONE i did have a dream last night that Cam
ward was the.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Pick it was LIKE i think you might have actually
like said something to me like the day, before Like
schefter just, said like Cam ord will be the pick
or something like. THAT i still think it's kind of
up in the air because NEW, gm new kind of.
System it's like maybe they're a team that Takes Kirk
cousins for a year or something like. That i'm not
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going to guarantee, it but the ODDS i think are
starting to reflect that as.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Well ay Cam.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Ord but there's still a lot that can go down
over these next kind of few, weeks as we've seen
in the, past So i'm not fully locked into that.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yet, Yeah i'm right with you on.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
THAT i JUST i haven't heard The titans name or
A titans team name once talking about any of these,
quarterbacks SO i was intrigued as to thinking that that
means that they're all locked in on Cam.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Ord, yeah they could also as long as they have
the backing from ownership and. Stuff basically just roll Out
Will levis and say we're gonna take our lumps this
year and target a guy Like Arch manning or target
a guy.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Like nico in the next.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Draft but that's obviously a discussion for down the. Road
but as, always, everyone thank you for tuning in here
To bending The edge On Fox Sports The. Gambler AS i,
said potentially back next, week if, not definitely back the following,
weekend and maybe you're gonna start doing kind of two
episodes a week going.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Forward but keep it locked here On Fox Sports The
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Bending the Edge Episode four,
where today we will be talking a little bit about
some beef up front.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Talking some offensive line and some defensive linemen.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Our next episode we're gonna say for edge rushers and linebackers,
So really focusing on offensive linemen today and some interior
defensive linemen. Man, this is a really good defensive line
in class. I think it's kind of between defensive line
and running backs from what I've gathered as kind of
the strongest positions in this draft class. So Nick, looking
forward to to getting into this with you. I guess
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when we start, would you say that this is a
stronger offensive line or defensive line class as a whole.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
As a whole, I probably go defensive line, including the
edge dreshers too. But even though we're only going over
the d line the interior right now, but I still
think that this defensive line class is honestly one of
the better ones that we've seen a little bit. Not
knocking the offensive line at all because they're obviously a
bunch of players that could be plug and play, and
there's a lot of guys that can play multiple positions
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on the offensive line, you know, going from guard, going
from tackle, or vice versa. I think there's a lot
of guys that could be both, and I think having
that ability to play both, being versatile will only increase
your stock in any type of scheme or system at
the next level. So overall, I think the defensive line
would probably be the better of the two.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
But it's not a knock on offensive line at all.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, I think the I mean, I'm not going to
use the term consensus because obviously some people have different opinions,
but you know, seven out of ten, eight out of ten.
Number one overall prospects according to most people, is Abdel Carter,
who's an edge rusher, So we won't be talking about
him today, but you know, if you kind of want
to lump him into the defensive line group as well,
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it certainly makes a case for a strong group.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
But first player I want to get into is on
the defensive line, interior defensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I mean, I've heard some arguments, not that he's the
best prospect, but maybe the best kind of plug and
play guy when it comes to defense right now in
this draft, and that's Mason Graham, defensive lineman out of
Michigan sixty three, three hundred and eighteen pounds. Nick, give
me a little bit about Mason Grahmmt and what makes
him as a defensive tackle a potential top five pick
in this draft, which you don't really see that much.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, he's probably I would say, one of the safer
picks of this draft just with his like combo of
size and fundamentals and power, they're all pretty much NFL
ready or like you know at this point, and that
will easily make him an instant contributor for whatever defense
or scheme that he is get thrown into. So I
do think he should be worth a top five pick.
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NonStop motor, high motor, he does not stop finishes every
single play. But at the same time, he is quick,
he's agile, he knows, he's a great play recognition, elite
hands too. Reminds me a lot of Christian Wilkins, that bigger,
like stoutier type of interior defender. But he's the type
of person that will constantly be in the backfield and
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just wreck an opposing offensive game plan.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Though, the one thing I don't know if it's a knock,
but one I guess criticism that I've heard about him
as they've dived into these prospects is he's played alongside
a bunch of talented guys on that defensive line. He's
never really been the focus point of another team's kind
of game plan where it's like, all right, everything's it's
designed around stopping Mason Graham. He's benefited from playing with
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a lot of guys. Is that something that you could
agree with or or something that you're not really going
to knock a guy with for for playing on a
good team and you still believe that he's worthy of
a you know, a top five, top ten pick in
this upcoming draft.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, I could see.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I can definitely see the knock on that, just based
off of you know, you you have that many talent,
you have that much talent around you. Obviously people are
going to be zoned in on them rather than him.
But at the same time, he, you know, is still
put up these numbers last year forty five tackles, seven
of them for a loss three and a half sacks.
I mean, I know, for that's not you know, eye
popping numbers, but for an interior defender, that's not that bad.
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But at the same time, I think he could be
one of these players at the next level that you know,
is that guy that you know they zoned in on him.
Maybe someone else gets gets some time. But at the
same time, that's I don't know if it's a knock
on him, but I still think at the next level
he will make a difference in any type of way.
Being that versatile, he could get be a fee down back,
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this disruptive defensive tackle that really, like I said earlier,
rex a game plan.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
All right, let's transition over to the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Now we'll kind of go back and forth for our
twenty five minutes or so that we have. I think
that the best tackle in this class, and he's been
kind of hyped up is this the past two years
at least Will Campbell out of LSU offensive lineman. I
think he can play either tackle is what people are
projecting him at. But I think ideally if you're picking
alignment in the top five, top ten, he's going to
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be your left tackle going forward. Six six, three hundred
and twenty pounds. Was just a standout at LSU these
past few years. It was a LSU offensive line that's
really been a strong unit.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You look even back like two years.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
They had such a dynamic offense and obviously a lot
of offensive talent with Jayden Daniels and playmakers on the outside,
but the offensive line was one of the key cogs
of that as well.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
How good do you think Campbell can be?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And I guess what's kind of your your comparison for
him going forward?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Is he worthy? You have a top five, top ten
pick in your mind?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, I think he should be at least in the
top five, top six. I think he has all pro
potential in the future. He's a very athletic left tackle
that could be switched to guard, but I kind of
think he will stick a tackle. Only knock on him
is kind of his shorter arms, which makes it seems
like seem like the transition to guard will be a
lot easier. But he's played tackle the past three seasons
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and just been absolutely dominant over the last two seasons,
nine hundred and ninety four past block snaps and only
two sacks allowed while also putting up in eighty point
seven run block grady, So he can do it all
he can do. He can pass block, he can run block,
even as a freshman. As freshman he was All American
All SEC and second team All SEC as a freshman.
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Last year, First team All American All SEC. He's got
the resume, great body and frame, height and weight. Literally
the only knock on him would be his arm size.
But I think he could be a cornerstone offensive lineman,
future All Pro in whatever system that he's drafted into,
which I should I think should be top five.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, well, you just described to me kind of sounds
like like Lane Johnson in terms of his frame, his athleticism.
I think that's the thing that sticks out about Lane
the most for a guy his size is the way
he's able to move. He stayed on the field forever
pretty much knock on wood. He's been a guy that's
been extremely durable. And you said it like all Pro
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cornerstone type of tackle, a guy that you can count
on to be your tackle sixteen games, seventeen games a year,
or whatever you want to say, for the next decade
or so.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You do you think that is kind of the ceiling.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
He can reach a perennial All Pro year in a
year out just like Lane Johnson.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, I think he definitely could.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I mean, I really wouldn't want to compare anyone the lane,
but I think he could be that type of guy,
that type of cornerstone that just sticks there and the
team forever and just is dominant All Pro Pro Bowls,
you know, Leeds team in the trenches. I think he
could easily be that guy. I really would hope that
he sticks at tackle, just based off his talent.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I hope he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I mean, I know that he could succeed as a guard,
but I think that he is all cro type potential
is at tackle in the next level.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
All right, let's switch over back to the defensive line.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
This guy was a player that he was like the
number one transfer last season coming from Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
He commits to ole Miss, and he's.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
A player that when he wants to play and when
he's got his motor running, he can be a top five,
top ten player I think in this class. But he's
had motor issues, he's had attitude issues apparently as well.
Not the most coachable player from what they said about
him at ole Miss at times, and when he was
playing well, Ole Miss was playing really well. When he
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was struggling or he wasn't given a hundred percent effort,
That's when he kind of saw ole Miss struggle on
the defensive side of the ball a little bit. And
that's Walter Nolan six foot three, about three hundred pound
defensive tackle out of ole Miss, former number one I
believe overall recruit, a five star recruit at least.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
What are your thoughts on him? How do you get
the most out of him?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And is he a player that you think is worth
taking that risk on that he might not be one
hundred percent on it, might not have that one hundred
percent motor all the time. Do you think the talent
kind of outweighs that and you can get him in
the right system, in the right building, he can be an.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
All pro type of player, Pro Bowl type of player.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yeah, I do. I think he's one of those guys
that I would take a chance on.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Like you said, for number one recruit, I think depending
on who you look at. I think maybe Travis Hunter
may have been number one on some boards, but former
number one recruit on ESPN at least, I think he
has already NFL sized talent and just a blend of
explosiveness and playmaking ability. High upside, but like you said,
you never know with his motor, you never know where
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you're going to get out of him. But in an
NFL system, you know it's time to buy you you're
making the big bucks now. I think he's worth the
first round, end of the first round pick, and if
he goes into the second I think you're getting a
nice steal. But like you said, he's got to be
in the right system. He's got to be disciplined, he's
got to be, you know, locked in. But at the
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next level, you know you're you're a professional. He's got
a lock in and if he doesn't, it's on him.
He's got all the talent in the world, First Team,
all they see last year, All American, you know. I
think he can be a reliable, you know, run stopper
and even high level guy as a pass rush rusher.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
But he's got to buy in.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
He's got to lock in, and I think it's worth
the risk taking with the talent like him.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I mean, he's a player that I think the Eagles
have shown the willingness, I guess, especially with a guy
like Jalen Carter. Jillen Carter maybe a little bit of
a different beast, because he's arguably already the best defensive
tackle in the league.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
But sitting there at.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Thirty two, if Walter Nolan's on the board, or if
he's there at twenty seven to twenty eight, and you
want to trade, you know, a later round pick to
maybe move up to him to replace Milton Williams. Who
knows if they're gonna want to invest a lot of
money in Jordan Davis with having to pay a lot
of other guys. Do you think that is a potential
ideal fit, ideal selection there for the Eagle sitting at
thirty two, because we've seen this defense has been getting
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stripped and they're going to need to continue to add
young talent to it.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, that would. I would love him in an Eagle uniform.
I mean, we haven't.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
For me personally, I think that with everyone saying, you
know a lot of guys have character issues.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
You know, I'm this is football.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
If I got a guy with character issues, he goes
out there and there's a psycho on the field, as
long as he buys into my system, I'm okay with it.
You know, I don't really care as long as I
know that I can get the most out of them.
But yeah, him next to Jordan Davis, him next to
Jalen Carter, that would be a problem. That would be
talk about beef up front, that would be the definition
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of beef up front.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, that would be I think if he's a guy
that's sliding, that's kind of an ideal selection there for me,
because I do think I don't know if they're gonna
want to invest a lot in Jordan Davis going forward.
He still hasn't proven much as a pass rusher. He
still has been up and down at times. Mcfangio didn't
really even play him that much in the latter half
of the season. He came on, I think a little
bit in the playoffs, But are you really going to
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give a guy a big contract that you'd only you
only play thirty forty percent of the snaps or something.
I think that defensive tackle is going to be something
that the Eagles look to address certainly in the draft,
and Walter Nolan could kind of fit there. We'll transition
back over to the offensive line now. I think Will
Campbell is you know, as I said earlier, I'm not
going to use the term consensus, but eight or nine
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of the boards that you look at, he's the top
offensive tackle. If you're looking at ten offensive boards, there's
two guys, the offensive tackle from Missouri and then Banks,
the offensive tackle from from Texas. Give me your number
two rank those guys two and three for me if
those are your second and third tackles, and what kind
of different h differentiates those two and you know, probably
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making them both top fifteen picks on this draft.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, I'm probably going Membu too.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Just the way that he has increased his stock since
the season has ended has been unbelievable. He dominated the Combine.
He's literally only made his stock climb since the combine.
I mean since the end of the year and then
the combine. Very athletic. Has literally has the prototypical guard size.
But I think he's going to stick at tackle, and
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even if the tackle doesn't work, he's got that option
to go to guard. Barely allows any type of pressure.
His body control is amazing. He plays like the composed
like like he does not get bothered by whoever is
rushing at him. We watched the Texas A and M
tape against him, and he just devoured Nick Scoton the
whole game. I think he'll make an immediate impact on
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really any roster that he gets into. I think he
should be a top ten pick in this draft. And
I think he has the potential to like we were
talking about with with Campbell, I think he could be
an all Pro tackle or guard at the next level.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
And Banks.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I love Banks too. Three year, amazing college career, had
a little injury at the end of the year, but
you know whatever, play throw it. Former top ten overall
recruit coming into college, so he's always had that potential.
I think he also projects to be an early, you know,
plug and play tackle at the next level, very reliable,
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good fundamentals and mechanics for him, and he's been in
those big games, you know, first team All Big twelve
or twenty twenty three, then when they moved to SEC,
first team All SEC, first Team All American. So he's
also got the resume. I think he's got both the
size and the tools to become a very reliable tackle
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, I think we can see with these contracts that
some of these linemen are getting in free agency, even
like the guard spot guards are getting paid like worth
of twenty million a year now, So it just goes
to show you how much these teams are investing in
the offensive line. I think there's a legit shot we
see a run on these offensive tack Those top three
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that we talked about probably gone by, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Pick fifteen, pick sixteen. It wouldn't really surprise me.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
This guy is a little bit of a more polarizing
I think the offensive linemen are more consensus, like top fifteen,
top twenty picks the offensive tackles that we've talked about
thus far. When you get to the defensive line, I
think a lot of opinions kind of differentiate. And this
is a guy I know you like, I know Mark
Henry Junior likes as well. Dean Walker, defensive lineman out
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of Kentucky, big boy, six seven, three hundred and thirty
one pounds.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
He's a guy that get off the bus guy. I
think I like to call him that.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
He's like you put him as the first guy getting
off the bus, and that's the intimidating type of presence.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Jordan Davis, I see you kind of have a comp
for him there.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I feel like that's a perfect comparison for what Jordan
Davis was coming out of college. I do think Walker
might be a little bit better of a pass rusher,
but another guy, It's like, how much do I want
to invest in a guy that, at least as of
right now, probably is like a two down player.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I don't know if we'll ever fully develop.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Into a three down player, but I think the Eagles
have kind of found a.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Good sweet spot for Jordan Davis.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
But I still think, especially where the Eagles picked him,
they were expecting a little bit more and for him
to be a little bit more advanced at the stage,
still young in his career just wrapped up year three.
Do you see Walker kind of taking a similar path
as Jordan Davis? Already think he can be even better
than Jordan Davis has been in his early early days
as an Eagle.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I honestly think he could be.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
A little better.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Like you said, he is more of a pass rusher
than Jordan Davis's.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
And when I look at Dean Walker.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I mainly look at you got to look at that
twenty three tape this past year. Report just came out
in twenty twenty where he was playing with a fractured spine,
which is absurd for a defensive tackle. Like I don't
understand how he was still standing, but in twenty twenty three,
he led all college in tier defensive lineman with fifty
one pressures and won twenty one percent of his rushes
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on true pass attempts, which for a guy at six
seven three point thirty is in playing on the inside,
crazy athleticism for six seven three thirty, great upper body strength.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I think he does.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
He has the traits, he has the upside to be
that consistent interior force. But like you said, do you
want to trust him playing all three downs or is
he more of a just a two down guy, more
of a raw prospect. You get him in a right system,
teach him up, you know, make him learn his role.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I think he'll probably develop into a dominant force on
the front line.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
He's another player where if you're like, if you're sitting
there at the end of round one and you're kind
of hesitant on because Jordan Davis going into your four,
so you'll have to pick up the option.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I believe at some point this offseason, I think is
the rule or you know, decide to let him walk.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Is he a guy that you could look at It's like,
all right, we basically view these guys as the same
type of player. Do we want to kind of make
the investment in him now let Jordan Davis walk next year.
Do you think that is a path that you could
potentially see, or like, I'm out wasting another resource on
a potential two down player.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I'd like to go somewhere else with that. I would.
I would.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I don't know if they do that at the end
of the first round, if they don't like any of
the defensive linemen that are there, maybe they trade back
and hope he's still there. I don't know if he
really is going to go in that late first round,
but if you have a high if they have high
grain on him, then you might as well take to
take the risk and hope that he can fill in
the Jordan Davis role that you wanted Jordan Davis to do.
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But at the same time, there's still a little there's
more other defensive lineman that could that you go after,
like a Alexander from Toledo, a Harmon from Oregon if
there's a but they're not the Jordan Davis big body
type size. So if you want that replacement, then you're
looking at Walker here.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Another guy I want to touch on the defensive line.
We touched about on his teammate earlier, with Mason Graham
and Kenneth Grant, another defensive linemount in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Six four three thirty one.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I was saying at the beginning, Mason Grant's played with
a lot of talented players across the defensive line during
his Michigan career, and for the past year or so
he's been plugged up right next to Kenneth Grant.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Those are two dehuminant defensive linemen.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Grant, I'm not sure if he's going to be a
first rounder, but Mason Graham at worst the top fifteen pick,
So two potential, like let's just call it top fifty
players playing next to each other.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And that was what I was saying at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's like he hasn't really seen much double teams or whatever.
He's had a lot of single team action just because
of who else he had.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
And then this past.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Year, even with the struggles that they had, they still
had Wing Martindale as a defensive coordinator, so that was
a blitz heavy defense too. You're getting a lot of
kind of one on one looks at times when you're
these Michigan defensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
What makes Grant a different player than Graham and.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Goes back to my question at the beginning, like another
player that's seen a lot of one on one looks,
why is he a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
More down the board do you think than Graham?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And do you kind of knock him it all for
playing next to a bunch of great players as well.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yeah, honestly, I don't know why he's that down the board.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I think he's he should be going maybe middle at
his peak late first round. I guess you can knock
the production because they do have Graham on that offense.
But in the last two seasons he had eight sacks,
fifty pressures, almost our thirty nine run stops. I mean,
he has proven to be a productive force on the
(20:22):
Michigan defensive line. Big body defender. I think he takes
up a lot of space as a run stopper. And
he's also very smart, very high IQ football IQ. He
knows where to be, he knows where you know running
backs are going to go, he knows how to fill gaps.
So yeah, I think he could be taken at the
end of the first round, but I wouldn't I wouldn't
(20:43):
be surprised if as the draft you know comes up,
he starts to rise his stock a little bit as
the draft you know, gets closer, all.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Right, Like we said at the beginning of all these episodes,
it is kind of just like a crash course on
some of the top names. Will certainly we have still
about a month and a half to really get into
the weeds on these prospects.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
But I want to talk about one offensive guard.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I've heard a lot of good things about him in
recent weeks, and one of the things I heard most
about him was like, and this is Tyler Booker, offensive
guard out at Alabama. Thing I heard most about him
he was one of the more impressive guys at the
combine in terms of interviews and also just players. Like
when scouts were visiting colleges this year, Tyler Booker was
(21:27):
known as kind of a leader in that Alabama locker room,
a holdover from Nick sabans Era, and when things were going,
you know rough at times this year, he was kind
of saying, like, guys, this isn't the standard I know
Saban's out here anymore, but a guy that's just not
afraid to step up, and I think every offensive line
kind of needs that. Do you look at Tyler Booker
as a potential you know, building block as a guard.
(21:48):
We were just talking about guards getting over twenty million
a year. Now you look at a guy like Landon Dickerson,
Ryan Kelly playing center or guard effect with the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But these guys are getting paid.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Now do you do you look at Tyler Booker as
one of the next kind of star interior defense or
offensive linemen, and what do you think kind of his
ceiling is going forward?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I could see that he's one of those guys, like
you said, just a leader in the locker room, doesn't
take anything for granted, and you love that in an
offensive lineman. He goes out there and just dominates whoever
is ahead of him. He's not really that type of
blocker that will like get out in space on those
outside zones.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Like I'm seeing some people.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Mock him to the to the Dolphins, and I don't
really like that fit for him, because he's not that
type of guy to you know, go outside and bounce outside.
He's that type of maler that is inside that you know,
like punching in the face, power, physical guy with a
great length and you know, mass combination and he's one
of those guys that does not or that finishes every
(22:47):
single rep until the whistle. He's like that the blind
side clip taking him to the buses. He will take
you to the buses. Heavy hands, He's got mauling hands.
So like you said, he's one of those guys that
you have him in your locker room. He's only gonna benefit,
He's only going to make your team better. So I'm
in that camp that he's gonna be one of those
(23:07):
offensive guards in the future to get paid.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Another potential thing that the Eagles can maybe look at.
I don't know if they'll actually take a guard there,
but I know they just brought in Kenyan Green, they
saw Tyler Steen, but I don't think any of those
guys are for sure locked in as a starter at guard.
Could be another spot there, and the Eagles have had
some success in recent years drafting guys from Alabama, namely
(23:31):
you know, DeVante Smith and Dickerson, obviously Jaln Hurts as well.
Give me one more defensive lineman, Nick, that you want
to touch on real quick in two minutes that we
didn't get to talk to you talk about yet. As
we said, we'll be diving into these guys a little
bit more deeper as we go on throughout the next
few weeks.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Probably I'm gonna go with Derek Harmon.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I love him at Oregon six' five almost three point,
fifteen very one of those like. Compact you, know three
down linemen can, dominate you, know.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
At the point of.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Attack strength is, amazing very good in the wrong game
like we're talking about With. Tyler booker fills in those,
gaps very wide. Base HE'S i think he should be
a first round pick end of the first. ROUND i
think he has improved every single year that went since
he's come From Michigan. STATE a second Team All Big,
ten fifty five, pressures which was first among defensive, tackles
(24:24):
and a seventeen point six percent piss rush win, rate
which was fourth among defensive.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Tackles so he gets.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
HOME i think he could Probably i've seen him miss
a few tackles that a player of his talent should
be able to, make SO i think he can improve on,
that which is probably why stock hasn't really risen a little.
Bit BUT i think he should be a first round
pick at the end of the first, round and if
he goes in the second, round you're getting a Steal Derek,
Harmon oregon defensive.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Tackle all, right, well that will do it For bending
The Edge episode. Four next, episode we actually will be
talking about bending The edge and some of the these edge,
rushers and according to your, notes there's a there's a
slew of them that can potentially be going in the first,
round but next week to be decided if we'll be.
Back we Got March badness next, week so it might
(25:11):
be a little bit more prioritizing that for that. Week
but then after, that you, know we still got the
edge Of March madness the later, rounds but definitely gonna
be doing some more deep dives going. Forward on THE Nfl,
draft any last second comments set before we head.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Out, HONESTLY i only had one, question and this has
nothing to do with defensive lineman or offensive. Lineman this
has to do with number one overall pick with The.
Titans not with all these quarterback you know Going Gino
smith moving, On Sam donald moving On titans haven't really
(25:49):
been linked in any quarterback. Talk do you think that
is locking in Cam ward at number?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
ONE i did have a dream last night that Cam
ward was the.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Pick it was LIKE i think you might have actually
like said something to me like the day, before Like
schefter just, said like Cam ord will be the pick
or something like. THAT i still think it's kind of
up in the air because NEW, gm new kind of.
System it's like maybe they're a team that Takes Kirk
cousins for a year or something like. That i'm not
(26:20):
going to guarantee, it but the ODDS i think are
starting to reflect that as.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Well ay Cam.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Ord but there's still a lot that can go down
over these next kind of few, weeks as we've seen
in the, past So i'm not fully locked into that.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yet, Yeah i'm right with you on.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
THAT i JUST i haven't heard The titans name or
A titans team name once talking about any of these,
quarterbacks SO i was intrigued as to thinking that that
means that they're all locked in on Cam.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Ord, yeah they could also as long as they have
the backing from ownership and. Stuff basically just roll Out
Will levis and say we're gonna take our lumps this
year and target a guy Like Arch manning or target
a guy.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Like nico in the next.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Draft but that's obviously a discussion for down the. Road
but as, always, everyone thank you for tuning in here
To bending The edge On Fox Sports The. Gambler AS i,
said potentially back next, week if, not definitely back the following,
weekend and maybe you're gonna start doing kind of two
episodes a week going.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Forward but keep it locked here On Fox Sports The
gambler and we will talk to you next. Week
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