Guess Who's Back

Mench is back and brings John Rhadigan and Craig Ludwig along to kick things back off with a dive Deep into baseball, scandals, and the sports landscape! Join them as they tackle a plethora of sports topics, from baseball's World Series to the changing rules and influence of money in sports.

They don't shy away from hot-button issues like weather's impact on teams, nostalgia in fandom, and the growing presence of gambling. The recent Shohei Ohtani scandal gets a spotlight, raising questions about the influence of gambling on players.

But it's not just scandal talk—they also delve into the Dallas Stars' performance, the NHL playoffs, announcers' roles, and the state of the Dallas Cowboys. It's a rollercoaster ride of insights, debates, and sports passion from seasoned athletes and enthusiasts!

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Episode Transcript

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Hey, welcome back. We've gotthe band back together, well half of
the band. Nate's not here,Derek's not here. We got Craig Ludwig,
we got Kevin Minch, John RadiganSuDS with Luds. We do that
sometimes we do. Then She's gothis podcast, Derek Harper has a podcast,
Nate Newton has a podcast, andwe are all under the playmaker's umbrella.

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Now today we're at the Bond Shop, which is a brand new restaurant
in Irving. They have great Asianfood, everything from the Bond Me sandwiches
to pad tie to fried rice.You got to get out here. Try
the Bond Shop because it's also gotthis great big bar right in the middle.
So this ain't no payway, Thisain't no you know what's the Panda

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Express right? This is a placeto come sit. Well. Sponsor yes,
sorry, watch it. I don'tthink they're going to sponsor us.
Now watch a game, big,huge stream TV. So anyway, that's
what we're doing, and we're gladyou're here checking us out. Kevin Minsch
happens to be here as the baseballseason opens. Craig Ludwig happens to be

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here as we wind down the Starsseason. So there's a lot to talk
about Menshi. Yep, opening thatwe got. What how much time you
got? Of course he's on atight schedule. You got about twenty eight
minutes, so first pitch? Ohreally yeah, okay, thirty five start?
I think? Okay, So howmuch time do we have with you?
About that much? About that much? The Brewers on? Don't can
we get the Brewers game on?We may be able to. Yeah,

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you like the Brewers? Huh yeah? Your memory? Well, first of
all, Menshi, memories of theWorld Series for you. I know you
don't watch baseball. Now, didyou watch the postseed? He doesn't.
No, I don't watch base notat all. I equate it when people
ask me I to does a policeofficer go home and watch cops? Do
you go home and watch hockey games? For a second? Are you not

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working and doing some television telecast?Dat? No. No, we've we've
actually we've we've tried to get himinto it, and he says, I
got to watch the game, wherelike you gotta watch the game. I
don't want to do it, andI'm probably they're going he doesn't a doctor
doesn't go home and watch er?Do they I mean, think about it.
I thought you they would have notprofess. I mean we can.
I can talk about it for hours, but just sitting there, what the

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one game I did? Is itboring for you to watch it? He
did? He did one one rightcoming out of the All Star break,
first game, two hour rain delay. It was a two to one game
with about five hits. I wasready to shoot myself. And I'm sitting
there. Uh, is not avery good advocate for the sport right now?
No, I'm because I'm sitting andit's just you're one of those because
we're creature, right, Baseball playersare creatures of have it we have you

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have that much time off, andhere we are and we're sitting there,
and it was two o'clock in themorning. We're sitting here talking about baseball
like, oh, this was fun. Five hits, But what do you
talk about? It's it. Ican talk for hours. I could much
rather talk hockey, football, basketballright where sweet sixteen, My targets are
playing the night at a great time. So did the rule changes as far

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as pitch time and things help outat all? No? Not, it
doesn't change any minutes. And Idon't think and even doctors will tell you
what they're trying to do. You'rerushing guys to get through it. I
get through different kinds of it.I mean, we have bases that are
the size of a pizza box.When are we going to go the double
bass? Like they having softball firstbase right so you don't touch them?
Yeah, I mean what are wedoing? Yeah, this is the purity

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of the game. What if theytook to hockey puck and made it bigger,
or they made the boards like alike a wrestling ring. I mean,
you're trying to bring in fans thatreally don't care about the sport,
the purest world baseball class of forinstance, games the semi final final games
games are three and a half hours. Was anybody complaining about it? No?
No, why because you're glued toyour TV. Now do the fans

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like it though? Because they're nogood? They numb the periods of doctors.
You know, the ones that arethen you pick up off the side
of the street. They're the onesthat are, oh okay, but you
go to a ranger game just forinstance, Hey let's let's go get something
neat we come back. Oh man, we just missed three innings so I
just paid three hundred dollars to missthree innings the base as opposed to sitting

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there enjoying it, being able tocome back. Oh, they're still right,
you're still going. You know,you have long innings. You know,
that's just that's just the way thegame is. But I just I
just think the way the game isgoing. I mean, we have robot
umpires in trip to play baseball.Now, at what point are you going
to be able to sit at home? Yeah? Yeah, robots? Oh
yeah, so if you don't likea strike or something, they can tap

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their helmet or something and then theycall upstairs and they go, oh,
that was a strike according to thebox. Okay, you're out as opposed
to walking. Yeah, yeah,a video game, yes, yes,
that's what it's going to come to. Somebody's going to be sitting there or
I guess part of the contract.I will have to play my guy in
the game and then move on andthen I don't get hurt, right right,

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No occupational hazards anymore, maybe alittle carpal tunnel. Other than that,
Now we're not playing the game asopposed to sweating it out. Gone
to the Are the grinders gone tothe like you're era hockey gone to the
guys who go out right the BobProgress can go out the tie domies about
just fight somebody. Yeah, now, so will you notice and our pictures
having an issue injury white because you'rehearing about it. Yes, not much

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yet, but they will. Yeah, it's just it's it's long. There's
not Yes, there's not enough studiesto show that now. But if you
go ask them who made I thinkwith Suresier that made the comment about it.
This is why guys are getting hurt. Talk to doctors. I'm sure
if you sat down with meister andtalk about it and see these guys are
coming in because of what they're doing. I talked with Bryce Harper last year

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opening day, you know, hewas coming off Tommy John and I said,
Bryce, I said, hey,you know, what are your thoughts
on this pitchcock? He goes,this is this is, this is terrible.
Think about the year before NLCS bottomof the eighth inning to too right,
this was a tie. I thinkit was a tie game that down
one man on if he'd be watchingyou know them, Yes, I was

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watching, but I can barely rememberlast week and you're lucky. I remember
this, and I'm asking, andthey all, right, twenty seconds.
You're not in the box. Okay, you're you're out. You struck out
because you didn't get in there atthe time. Wise, wait time out
here. You've just changed the outcomeof a baseball game because you're worried about
time. Let moments happen. Andthey talked about changing and I think for
the postseason, well at it.And then when they start this year they

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backed off. They took like twoseconds off of it or something, so
now it's going to be faster.And there was something else I saw in
spring training where they're an interference playon a guy going to field. So
it would be like you're going toblock a shot, but you don't kind
of get in. You get inthe way too soon. You got to
your spot too soon. Oh no, that's a goal because you blocked it
too soon. Guys are going toreceive a throw to second base. As

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they go down, they put aknee. Now they call it interference.
It's runner safe. But if theball comes to you, you're allowed to
be in if it takes you intoit's yes, it's yeah, it's and
it's pretty much a judgment call inmany cases, yes, right, yesh?
Does it affect beer sales? Doesit effect you know advertised it did

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so quick? Yes? I don'tknow about commercials. I think there's still
the other news wouldn't be affected byit? Now the clock is I think
the clock the commercials are based onthe clock, right, because between innings
there's two and a half minutes.Made it shorten that? I don't I
don't know. I don't think playand you do this? How do you
not know that I didn't play withit? With this damn clock? I
don't. I don't think they shortcommercial break of the game. Right,

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But you can't shorten commercial breaks becausethat's where the money you're paying. So
you're still but I mean you're gettingin less commercials. No, right,
still nine innings, right, youstill have a break between every inning.
But the game length is shorter,right, But so so the percentage of
commercials within a game is greater becauseit's the same number of commercials in a

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shorter game. So to shorten thisduration of watching a game, that was
Baseball's idea. They said, let'sshorten the actual playing, so not the
So then wouldn't more people put yourTV on pause? And then fast forward
through the commercials and watch the game. So you don't have to watch all
that's fricking heresy. Don't you haveto watch the come right way? I

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think I've gotten paid all these years. You're one I got you want to
pay? They have no commercials.Yeah, I had no commercial during high
ul Is. Yeah, say theextra four bucks. I can't. I'll
never watch your show live. Idon't want to work. Well, that's
what they're doing now everything now,everything you go to pay. Now you
have to have commercials unless you wantto pay the extra money. So they're
right. It's just like you goto buy a ticket when we were growing

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up, thirty five dollars ticket.Now you have to pay thirty five dollars,
ten dollars processing fee, yeah,five dollars handling fee, ten dollars
city surch charge. Suddenly it's aninety dollars ticket. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, I know.And that's the problem. There's nothing.
It's it's just like you know,nothing is ever set in stone, and
there's all like you said, there'sthese umpires have a little bit of lead
by what they're doing. It's justlike anything else, right, Scalping tickets

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you can't go scalp the ticket anymore. I go to a game. I
went to the World Series that washere, right, I did with no
in twenty twenty COVID, which isfirst time since nineteen forty four, no
World Series and the neutral site.What do you what was your this thing
as a kid going to a hockeynostalgia? Right? Coming home from a
game? You wanted a ticket rightof a game you went the snow?
Yes, yeah, on your phone. There's no stub anymore. Yeah,

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no, So what are you supposedto The memory you have is just up
here as opposed to collecting things,right, I'm thinking? I mean I
found my Transformer's thermos from nineteen eightyfour from Hasbro. I mean they don't
make him anymore. Yeah, youwant nostalgia? Where about our sports are
about nostalgia? There's no more tome. You had to get a shirt
made up for Benshi's podcast where it'sgot him sitting on his lawn with the

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logo get off my get You're justa grumpy old man. You got much
soaposs Yeah, so let's get backto the World Series though for just a
minute. I mean, as aformer player, how did it hit you.
What what were you feeling when theywon the World Series. I was
feeling for those fans that have beenhere since seventy two, the ones that

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you run into that are that arethere from you know, from beginning to
the end, right through fifty wasit fifty two years? Is that what
it was? Fifty two here andsix of one. So those fans that
had dealt with that, that hadall that pain and everything else, those
are the fans you feel for,right The ones that have been through it,
that have been with the teams thatwere bad, the teams that were

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good. That those are the fansthat you feel for because it's the uphouri.
I mean, you hear stories aboutfamilies. You know, my dad
got to see this before he passedaway, you know, and being a
part of or he didn't, butwe're able to, you know, to
take that and see that memory andsee the fans and how the jubilation of
what they having. Last week Iwas telling about being a waxahachi at the

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McDonald's. These fans are I mean, this is you know, that's that's
not something that happens all the time. You're a chance to see it especially,
I mean, it's it's amazing forthem, for the organization. You
know, people are going, areyou gonna go this? I go.
I didn't win any World Series thatthe organization. Did you know the people
that had been that worked at thefront office statue play? Did you play

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with any of the players? Areyou? Are you friends with anybody?
I mean have you No? No? I mean some of the coaches,
you know, you know mad Dogand Beasley and those guys that are still
there, Fraser still there as faryou know, the club some of the
clubhouse guys that are there that havebeen there, those guys you know that
from behind the scenes, guys thathave done it. And it's for the

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for the city of Arlington, youknow, for everything that they you know,
remember the big thing was when youknow there was Where's where's Arlington?
I thought they were, you know, and here we are in this team
with with what they've been through,right the odds last year to do it
were they didn't, especially last weekof the scenes exactly they might not have
made the playoffs exactly what they Howmany how many years did you play for

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the Rangers? Six in your sixyears? Did they do in your mind
the things to allow you guys towin a championship like they it seemed like
they did for this current team.And the move was what would say when
we were here pitching, nobody wantedto come here and pitch. Nobody wanted
to pitch here, and it wasa bad era. What were those six?

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Remind me of the exact six?Two to six? Why do you
say nobody wanted to pitch? Wellbecause it's too hot? Too Well,
again, you can get the Jacobde Gram's and the Max susers to agree.
Now, yeah, because we havean air conditioned ballpark. That's how
they got that great pitching last offseasonand then at the trade deadline, but

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you couldn't. Nobody wanted to comehere and pitch. And you know the
players in general, the heater hittersespecially, would try to use it to
their advantage. But you know itwasn't an advantage. You're used to the
heat, and that's the thing,so you were always battling with you think
about you know, it's just justinto baseball. For instance, most of
the teams that have success in thepostseason are where located? Where up north?

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Yeah, where it's cooler, right, they play in about the Marlins.
They like win every other year theyhad no they were one of those
where they went out and they spentthe month. They have two years payroll,
that's here. Then all of asudden, that's here. Yes,
for two years ninety seven and three, three oh three words where they just
sports kind of just they went afterit and they got and they right,

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you gambled, they want it.So I mean it's but most of the
teams, okay, are the onesthat are up that are up north because
I think one, because of theweather, they're able to do that.
And I think last year with thenew ballpark being able to what's what's the
Brewers excuse? Then that's a greatquestion. Yeah, maybe it's too cold
there. There is too cold,but there is no there is no the
only heat in Milwaukee, so itcouldn't be. But it's right, Yankees,

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Red Sox, you know, Phillies, Dodgers and not they're not up
north. But the weather. Butthe weather. But that's what I mean.
So it's I think a lot ofit has to play in It's not
in the atmosphere too. I meanfans think about think about growing up in
Wisconsin fan base for the Packers,right for for the Brewers, were they
there? Were they there regardless?And that's what I mean, it's it's

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all thinking about it is in Texassporting wise, what is it? It's
a is it a? Is itsomething to do? Right? It was?
You know, there were people whocalled the ballpark in Arlington the picnic
grounds in Arlington, right because youwent there and you had a great time
as a beautiful place, but youweren't there to watch a baseball game,
right, you know, because andthen they did, I mean, to
their credit, they did a lotof things right in the late nineties.

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I was still around then, andthey were doing a lot of things right,
you know, making trades at thetrade deadline, doing the things that
took made the playoffs three out ofthe last four years in the nineties.
But just run into a buzzsalt teamsYankees every year with but with development throughout
their organization, they came through.All those guys really came up together.
And this is the salary cap.No, yeah, my gosh, there's

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a threat. It's a luxury taxthey have. And that's kind of what
the Yankees did year after year.Right, Yes, well, no,
what I think what I think originallywhat it was so if they went over
the threshold, they had to paytheir luxury tax to the least spending team.
But then we had heard rumblings that, so I think it was Montreal
at times. So if the Yankeesare needed to pay one hundred million,

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it was going to Montreal. Butthey weren't going out and signing free agency.
They were basically pocketing money. Butit happened in hockey too, right,
They were tried it that few years. I remember Kim y Onsen in
Philly. They were the luxury taxhad to go to I think Minnesota.
They didn't have the money to signthem, but Minnesota got the money,
so they went and signed them.And you're supposed to spread it around the
teams that don't make enough, right, Yeah, that's what they were doing

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that. They do that now moredistributed, more evenly. So then the
Rangers will pay some long not nota huge amount, but they'll if there's
if their roster stays the same thisyear, they'll pay some luxury. Was
the Rangers payroll anywhere near No,it was usually only it was only usually
two or three teams. Yeah,La, well, it's usually it was

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definitely Red Sox and maybe the Dodgers. So they did go out. Yeah,
so yeah, usually they basically didn'tgo out and buy a chance.
They know. The Rangers, Yeahthey did this time, though they did
they last time. Yeah. No, last year they were this close to
I thought when they signed, butthe Mets ended up picking up a big
part of his salary. If theyhad taken Surezer's whole salary, they would

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have gone over the luxury text lastyear. So they were they were flirting
with it, you know, andyou but that's the game you've got to
play now in any sport, right, It's just that's just the way it
is. It's but I think itdoes in any sport the parody. Now,
you've got teams that are that arecompetitive, right that you know,
like Minnesota for instance. I meantheir wins they win the division last year

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in the Central yet their wins putthem maybe third or fourth in any other
division. So so you have teamsthat play, okay, right, what
are the playoffs about? Just getin right, you're there. Everybody's gonna
chance exactly, And I think ifyou can tell especially I think Minnesota at
the end of the year of knowingthat okay, we're not going to catch
that one seed or two seeds,let's rest these guys, let's get in.

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But it doesn't always work out rightfor them and and the thing,
but it does add throughout the leagueand any I think in any sport.
You see it. Now there's alot more parody. But now, but
what else is popping up? Nowyou've got leagues performing over Europe where teams
are coming basketball right, yep,I don't know I heard that right,
but that the Saudi League offered JaneHarden like nine hundred million dollars that can

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play for a year or something.Stupid. Yeah, I mean like they're
doing in golf, were basically doing. Yeah, well baseball now they've got
a baseball league in sni Araia.Yeah yeah, well but the golf thing
is that kind of like the golfthing, they stole basically our best players,
right, not all of them?Oh that is what is that It's
caused the rift between guys that youknow, we're buddies, but you went
over there because you were looking atthe money and everything else, and now

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of a sudden, you know you'rean ass. I don't like you.
Because here's a good segue for him, Yeah, for Tani, Yeah,
a seven hundred million. Yeah,and he's or his trainer or is translator.
I think he's a trainer translator bookie, bookie yeah yeah, no,

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uh so how are you getting outof that at all? Yeah? I
have no idea. The word isthat the translators for the Japanese player,
like the Japanese player that needs atranslator, right, he don't want to
We didn't want to mess with anyAmerican ship, you know, so no
banking, No, nothing translator doesat all. And that's kind of been

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the way it goes with these bankingYes, So that's why people are freaked
out. How could four point fivemillion be you know? Missing? Reality
is all the money sho he Otanihas made. That's like a tip at
the ball might get change. Butyou know, and he didn't take it
all at once. I mean,as you know, five hundred thousand here
whatever or whatever they're I don't knowhow much it took, but but the

(18:38):
point he might have taken more thanfour points. So you actually believed that
story. I believe that that's apossibility because that's the way it works right
now to show Hey, I don'tknow, show hey knew I mean maybe
you know, maybe new. Imean the thing about this luds what the
media only telling us about twenty percentof what goes on, Right, that's
what we hear enough to keep youpeak. But well wait now, if

(19:00):
I'm your translator, either one ofus speak English, so we could I
could have a work. Yeah,if I'm your translator, before I make
of that, if that's what happened, would I not ask you, Hey,
so and so's pitching a night?What do you think I should go?
Now? Doesn't that make does thatnot make him guilty? Is this
not a Pete Rohlsinger or is thisnot this? This is because of what

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you're because of what you're seeing.They went through and they showed the games
that were bet on by the interpreter, and which it could be a coincidence,
but you see the numbers that wereposted by Otani on those but that
but also too, he just signedthis deal, so the money this could
have been always so. But sowhat are we getting at here? But

(19:45):
for right, you're under federal investigation, kind of like the whole Balco thing
that comes out because this place,the Fed's already looking at it. But
who somebody there's leaking this information becausethere's there's got to be more to this
story than He's not going to bethe only one I can guarantee. So
I did not see the numbers.So on the games that were bet on,
where his numbers like silly good,No, they really badly bad to

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the point like I don't understand theplus like a basketball thing where you're missing
the ball. Yeah, where almostlike like a shaving point. So that's
what you're okay. But like Isaid, because because the reality is,
you can't make yourself silly. Ithink the games that he had, I
think he had one game that wasthat he had. I think the pitching
numbers were bad, the hitting sup. I think he had a couple

(20:29):
of home runs one game. Butjust happened to be the games at the
the Yes trainer And that's what Imean. But but like I said,
when I saw them, you know, plus one sixty five or minus one
what, I don't know. Youknow, people can explain it to you.
I'm not in you know, analyticswith that. But that's with just
seeing that. So there's going tobe more to this, because there's got
to be escape going right. He'sYeah, I didn't know anything about it.

(20:53):
This Hey, major League Baseball isgoing to look bad no matter which
way this goes, right, becauseif if the guy, if they just
try to, you know, makethe guy, like you said, we
set off camera like Samurai, right, he falls on his sword. You
know, if they make him dothat, it looks terrible by the same
token, because again, there's enoughskepticism in our world that people aren't going

(21:15):
to believe that this guy did itcompletely independent and in sports, what is
it You're guilty and to improven?Innocent? Yeah, well that's ever yes,
but especially but especially a sports myhigh profile things. I mean to
come out. I mean, youjust made seven hundred and fifty million dollars
or whatever he got, and nowall of a sudden this comes out.
What's going What's what's going on?I'm wondering. I'm wondering what the translator

(21:38):
kickbacktion to be? The fall onthe sword? Right? Like dude,
just I mean, you're never goingto do anything again for the original life
just what I mean? But doeshe go to jail a translator right?
For for well, what did hemean? Okay, money? I guess
con money would have to like thefirst press cute him or what yeah?

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Or whatever they got. Yeah,yeah, put it. That's way that
dude's going to disappear press charges.Yeah, you probably disappeared, he'll be
He's probably in probably yeah, theCuza probably has has He's probably get tied
to the Ukuza some somewhere along thiswhole thing. How much is gambling influenced
sports? Now? Now you haveyou have, you have two major sports

(22:22):
teams in the gambling capital the world, right right, you're working on a
third. Third's coming. I meanit's got just a matter of time before
they're going to have a basketball toughcourt. Correct, Yeah, And all
of a sudden, now you havethat? Are you kidding me? And
that? But yet Pete Rose,the paride of all this, you are
you are bad from everything happened afterbaseball. He I think he applied for
reinstatement again, right, Chris withman and he's not going to give it

(22:44):
no chance, no chance, You'regonna here's the thing, like, to
the point of right, why isBalley Sports called Ballet Sports. That's a
naming rights deal. Valley does notown that sports network. They just bought
the naming rights. And the reasonthey did that bally the uh you know,
the casino operator. That's that ballet, right, and they did it
because they want you to be bettingnow that we haven't gotten the technology there

(23:08):
yet. But they want you tobe a flag during the game, right,
They want you to say it's theninth inning and it's fourteen to five,
but they want people to stay tunedin, so they go, you
think the Rangers will come back andget to within you know, get to
seven. Oh yeah, all day, right, I'll that's I'll throw five
bucks on that, you know,and that's and we're gonna have that.

(23:30):
I mean, that's why Bally didit. Think about what's right across the
street from the Love Life Field,I don't know, the ballpark, Choctawl
Stadium. Oh good, yeah,good point. Yeah yeah, I'm just
putting up a flag right here.You're a conspiracy theorist going on right now.
I'm just trying. I'm just thinkingthough, what what is coming to

(23:51):
Texas here? Oh yeah, andagain yeah, and against you know the
new that's all they owe it andthat's and that's the but just but think
that's just where this is going.But you're right now, they're gonna keep
you in your seats to what's theover under foot. I think about the
Super Bowl. You can probably beton the win, direction, on the
field goal and all this stuff.So you're gonna be sitting in your seat.

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Okay, like you said, fourteento five, Okay, what are
the five pitch walk here? Yeah? Bet there it is right, this
is what this is what. It'sgot a number of pitching changes, you
know. I mean, they're justgonna keep betting. But it's but it's
usually I mean, you can't thinkabout hockey. There's not much you can
bet on hockey really other than notlike it is with baseball basketball. There
isn't There isn't the time, no, right, yeah, there isn't to

(24:34):
do it. Baseball. You're talkingabout what you can bet right now?
Yeah, I think, yeah,all the shot props and things like that,
you know, like a certain playeryou know for three shots or you
know that kind of Yeah. Butyeah, so you're gonna have dudes.
I can bet. I can betright now. If I look over there,
I get another beer. That's allI get bet. Not you're not
that you're not that impressive, Butthink about it, what they've done.

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I mean, there's no place forthe rules that are implement and into sports.
Now, what's the latest with theNFL this kickoff role? Now they're
trying to make it like the XFLwhere you have they all line up ten
yards apart and then it and thenso there's not you want to join the
podcast, you know, just comeon and give us your sports opinions.
She's got a new her hair,so do I fix my up? Yeah?

(25:17):
Your looks good though, thank you? Yeah, I worked pretty hard,
tired on that. Yeah, whatdo you think about that? What
it's come to? The amount whatgambling has done for any friend of these
sports? I mean, the guysyou had. You can't tell me that
the guys aren't taking kickbacks, right, I mean you don't. You don't
you're hearing about it. What waswhat was the last one the NBA was,
I know, the official donnae?It was the big m Donnie who

(25:37):
Now that somebody else with the Raptorsjust got busted thro the gamble A guy
that doesn't even play. Yeah,oh it was a player. Yeah,
it doesn't over under minutes or somethingto talk about. Yeah, they guy
put the Raptors that talks about thedifference, but I I mean think about
it. We were playing was Ithinking about gambling or somebody else betting on
my sport. No, but nowit's every word. Did you know anybody

(26:00):
who would have even considered gambling atthat time on your teams? Because even
I mean because sports. I mean, if you're into sports, you know
you're kind of into gambling a littlebit, right, Yeah, but I
just yeah, guys, I meanguys gambling me. They're playing cards and
they're a gambling hall. On youknow, we're going to Vegas preseason.

(26:21):
We end up we got rained out. We didn't play any games. But
guys were just down there at casinohanging out. And you know they're not
placing prop bets on this and that. They're just down there and gambling.
They're having a good time doing stuff. My my, you know what,
I have had a thought of saying, Okay, here's my over all.
Right, Blood's gonna be a plustwo tonight, right, He'll have two
plus shots and then I can ButI mean, you can bet on anything.
I mean, you go to theballpark, everything from the probably the

(26:44):
crumbs on the ground selling I meanLuis Gonzales, Yeah, his bubble gum
was for sale. You see yourmouthpiece falls in the ice, you're it.
Oh my gosh, that's Craig Loveling'smouthpiece. Let's go. Yeah,
there are people, That's what Imean. It's almost that anything is for
sale. Your beer bottle, wecould probably sell it right now on the
show. You probably probably get thesixth sense it's worth a bottle. Yeah,

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yeah, it's empty. Yeah,but think about it. Would you
have thought fifteen to twenty years agothat gambling would would infiltrate our sports to
do it that way? See?I just I think what happens to the
players that get roped into that's upnumber one or a week because I think
the bookies are going to a certainplayer and saying, hey, dude,

(27:26):
you're getting a fucked You're not makingenough money. You know, you only
play this amount of time. Ican take care of your mom, do
you know what I mean? Andif you want to miss a shot here
or there, they're not going tothe wall besides Otani or whatever his name,
man, but they're going typically toguys that are a little bit lowered
down. Well, but where theywhere'd they go? They went? If
it's true they went to his interpretbecause hey, hey, yeah, yeah,

(27:49):
you may make h Yeah, thisguy's making seven union dollars. You
want to make some pay you sixtygrand or but think about too, perdeant.
You know, we didn't have socialmedia, right, These guys they
know everything about every part of yourfamily, so that's what they're using.
They're coming to you rat Hey,I see that you know your son in
law's got the cancer and this andthat. Hey do you need some money?
What can you? So? Areyou? They're basically chumming the walk

(28:11):
the guys that they they have allthe chum. They know exactly what you're
gonna bite them. So is yourfeeling, Oh, Tani didn't have anything?
Is that where you sit right now? You can't think it was more
on the interpreter. Why does heneed to bet seven hundred and fifty million?
Isn't that as contra? Yeah that'sMike. Why don't I don't think
the big money guys would ever beI mean, what what do you now

(28:33):
that you know? We know whothe biggest better like known is is Phil
Micholson. Yeah, and that's somethingabout I just gonna say him and Jordan
Yeah yeah, but they're honestly,yeah, I'm better, but they put
on the right I said, I'ma golfer, I'm allowed to. Am
I betting on myself if I'm gonnamake money and everything else, Yes,
I'm gonna bet. But but theseguys are betting. It's I think I

(28:53):
guess bat Well Jordan did do ittill after right, fine, but golf
in individual sport type of thing,right, my, the betting Black Sox
scandal, right, the entire team, because yes, but they don't bet
in the in the the heat ofplaying golf in a tournament. They bet
with each other and with each other. I mean that, but but you're
what you're allowed. But still you'reit's still you're not saying that Field drove

(29:17):
one into the woods because there's nono, no, no, no no.
But he's not throwing matches. Wellyou know, but yeah, they're
they're I mean, they like tohave a good time in gambling. But
but just just how much answer thequestion you actually think has something is involved?
You do? I think at somepoint that's yes, right, you
can't be cold well knowing, especiallywith as much time as there with the

(29:38):
guys. Well, this is beforethis was before he signed this, Yeah,
this is yeah, he was stillmaking money money. How long the
year before oh, yeah, Ithink everything was basically last think about about
it. Yes, come on,let's but let's be honest as athletes.

(30:00):
Everything else. How many dumb mistakeshave you done? Just done stupid ship
and you just go how long isthis show? Yeah? Exactly, that's
that's the point. So that's whatit could have been. It could have
been one of those if right,hey rats, yeah, go ahead,
right we realize oh sorry that thatplays under federal investigation. Yeah, yeah,
that's what I mean. So young, young, invincible athlete and as

(30:22):
translator says, dude, if I'veput this money on this yet, I
can make so much money. ButI'm go ahead. Yeah, okay,
Well let's talk about p Diddy?Now, oh my god, now you're
open? Are we going with?Are we going with the bridges too?
Here we go fully Equal Opportunity Podcast. Yeah, Pee Diddy, we don't.
We don't have our guys here.We can't. Yeah, all that's
right. Yeah, we have Where'sHeart when our colors from our color commentation

(30:47):
show? Yeah? Where are Yeah? We're not here out here? We
got one with knee surgery, NateHeart. We wish you were issue a
lot. Yeah. So so anyway, MENTI you got to go. It's
five thirty seven. We're good.We can finish that good? All right,
So let's talk a little hockey,all right, what do you want
to know? How good are thestars? I mean we're good, Baringer
is? I mean right? Ikeep hearing even Divorce say, you know

(31:15):
he hasn't found his rhythm yet.He hadn't found you know, I'm sure
we're getting closed. We're in gamesixty five, six seventy. Yeah.
Rhythm, yeh, he can findhis rythm. They're gonna go as far
again. You hear it almost inYeah. And do they want to go
back and forth with him and whathe wouldn't know? I mean, you
want Jake to be the guy heproves the only thing that I said a

(31:36):
long time ago when he came offthe Calgary series where he was so good,
I mean sixty some shots and theylost that one. The hardest thing
for him was to live up tothat the following year as a young goal
But he to me, he hassuch a calm demeanor. Yeah, he's
not a cocky person. Yeah,I think he believes in in his abilities.

(32:00):
But I've always I think when youhave a goalie, that's that good.
That can be that good. It'svery calm. Don't create more problems
in front of them that you don'thave to. They won a bunch of
games this year. The only issuethat I have with as a group is

(32:21):
they've let things get away from themlate. And I think it's it's a
system that they play in their zoneand it's a man on manned kind of
system. And for me, I'mnot that guy. But again, they've
won a lot of games by doingit, so you can't complain with it.
They got what six seven twenty goalscorers now in this which is crazy
franchise record, which is crazy goals. They can score goals, but you

(32:45):
playoffs are always a little different.You know, the goals should take care
of themselves, but let's not letthe teams climb back into the game.
And so I guess I think JakeAnger is good enough to say, you
guys want to I'm going to stopthis one, going to stop that one.
But when we create our own problemsin front of them, and it
goes from here to here, orgoes here to hear or or my biggest

(33:07):
pet peeve and in these kind ofsystems is and you played when if you
grow up as a defenseman, youplay a lot in front of your own
net in the corners. Right.So, but when you play man on
man and you're I got you,But you go out to the blue line
or above the tops of the circlesand now all of a sudden, your

(33:29):
way as a defenseman, I'm upthere. Who's got to be in front?
That's a forward. Forwards weren't reallygroomed on playing in front of their
own net. They don't know howto seal guys out. They don't get
the right body position. And Isee some of those kind of goals that
go in. I don't put thoseon Jake all the time. Okay,
that's my feeling. But again Iwill continue to say that they want a
lot of games, and they're reallygood, but you get to the playoffs,

(33:51):
I don't think you have to tradechances. And that's what worries me
a little bit about the playoffs isthat you know that there's a steady diet
of two to one games, right, Yeah, you can have all the
twenty goal scorers, not a lotof sixty five seven five games, So
you know they got to be Imean, do they have enough? Like
was getting tanav enough at the tradedeadline to bolster. It gives you a

(34:13):
solid top four. That's what itdoes. Yeah, it gives you top
four. Now, hack and pauseinjured right now? Lundquists if he's got
to come in suitor, you knowhe Susan's getting a little older. But
suits is a guy that really likesman on man because there are times that
literally sometimes when the funck is comingat your net, but my guy's going
over there, you don't just turnyour back. But he's told that,
but unful to do. I playman on man where I wouldn't be as

(34:37):
black and white as that. Sowhat Tanna has done is and again I
think they had a couple different waysthat go. I wish Harley was right
handed, because if he was,him and Mirror would be the perfect pair.
Harley's going to be a study alreadyhas. But isn't Tana the only
right handed guy we got? Hockingpause right? I believe lun Quist is

(34:58):
right handed. But what a Whatit would do is if you could have
Tan of play with Hayskin, you'dget number two things really good offensive guy,
defensive guy compliment each other. Butyou get Miro back to a strong
side. I don't think he's badon his off side. He's so talented
that he can play there. ButI think he's more comfortable on the left
side. But you got left youready, and then you could have but

(35:19):
you again, you don't have thatright. So and I think you have
two ways to go. You eithersay we're putting Mirror and Thomas together.
That's what they're doing along with yourIf you want to go strength on strength,
you want to go power against power, everybody's going to say that,
oh you know you got Paves andyou know, hints and Robo. I
think the best line this year hasbeen the new Shame line. Yeah,

(35:43):
I mean, do Shane marchmen.I mean, and they've just been they
dominate offensively. So anyway, youcan load up your offensive line and say
we're just going power against power,or you can take a guy like you
know now it's it's these two guys. I mean, you've got those two
guys that are your second pair.You can put them against the top line

(36:05):
and just say we're gonna shut thetop fine now, and you can you
can match that way. I thinkwhat they're gonna do is they're gonna go
power the power and because they havebeen outscoring teams, you know, in
players and if you can the conceptof the fossphy. A lot of times
we spend more time in that zonethan we do in our zone. I
mean, the numbers are gonna they'regonna be in your favorite Yeah, but
you're right. I mean, butyou think about playoff time, what happens,
happens, Well, everything tinds out, yeah, exactly, And that

(36:28):
I'm worried about who they could planthe first round, which is Vegas.
Vegas took advantage of them and theman on man stuff last year. That's
what I thought they did, sothey beat Yep, that's what they did,
is they they took advantage and theyknow you're playing a certain system and
I'm just going to skate up here, and this is man on man right
now. Just in hockey, itsounds more like window dressing, right.
It's just kind of like an offenseright where they're just running You're running guys

(36:50):
across the just across the back ofthe line, just right just to hey,
here we go. But if wecan, but like you said,
we can pull guys out to putsomebody else in. And that's what you
do, Yes, that's and Ithat's the flocks on a position right and
force a forward to play in frontof those own nets because he's got to
beat a foward. Yeah, exactly. They're not going to be blocking shots
like defenseman army. They're not goingto know, you know, angles and

(37:10):
everything else that's going on. Sobut you're right, that's where your goaltender
is supposed to come and make thosesays when I'm saying it, don't force
Jake to have to make those things. Just let him kind of sit back
in a chair and keep things hecalled he is he calling out from from
the back behind them with I don'tthink so, you know, I don't
think. I think. Did youplay with goalies they did that? No,

(37:31):
No, all the goalies I playedwith quiet because we didn't play like
that. We did our jobs andwe were pretty good at it. They
did their job. The only timewas probably Eddie when he first got here.
Eddie made a comment actually in thepaper one day and because a couple
of goals went in on it,and he said, well, I don't
know how I'm supposed to stop allthese shots with these guys all trying to

(37:52):
block shots and tuck pucks getting tippedand stuff like that. He actually had
a point right because he's such agood goalie. And I went into the
film room with it one day andbecause it was in the paper the next
thing and I read him. Youknow, I was a little pissed off.
I know you guys didn't know.I tell you, guys, you're
doing a job. You're only like, you're not playing in Chicago. You're

(38:14):
not going to get forty shots.You're going to get twenty two or twenty
three. But what happened was therewas a shot that Darryl saidor it was
in neutral zone and a puck gottipped, it hit said stick, and
it was between center ice and ourblue line. Yeah, and they're Unfortunately
for ed there was a camera rightbehind him. You know that. Well,

(38:35):
when when you can imagine when youtip a puck from center right,
it moved this much, Yeah,and it went in on Eddie and it
was like a rare gold and thatthe comment was made, you know that
after the game. Yeah, SoI went in there and we looked at
it and I'm like, what areyou making now? You're making five million
here, so you're killing me onehundred feet away. You can't pick a

(38:58):
puck up like this. Yeah,and I said, ed, but you're
right, like we there are timesthat we can get out of the way
and then we kind of created amonster. And you know, there's some
of those guys al mckinnis and I'mfraid of all the guys that can that
can live in the pot. Eddiewould come up to me on face offs
in our own zone. He'd skateout and there's a face off, you
know, this side or this sideof the net. He'd kind of skate
up to me. Ten time.As you take the low, I'll take

(39:19):
the high. I'm like, oh, sure, that's ray Dorg and yeah,
and now it's okay to block theshots. But again it's kind of
working together. But the thing Ithink what we all learned was we were
I mean, Hitchcock and those guysin Gainey, they're very good at defensive
zone coverage. You're going to getshots from over there and over there,
and and goalies can just kind ofget here, do the job and do

(39:40):
what they do. They don't haveto overwork. But think about as a
hockey as a defensive or as ahockey player in general, and the defensive
zone what somebody's going to take ashot, What is your first thought,
put a stick or something in thelining of it. Yeah, well that's
what you're Yeah, but see forwards. That's not their instincts, right,
that's right. And this, andyou said the defensemen are going to block
the shot. Not anymore, notanymore. You'd be surprised they oh,

(40:05):
they getting down. You'd be surprisedhow many how many shots that are blocked.
Now again, you play for PhillyTortses. Even in with the Rangers.
I mean, some of these coachesare are very hard. You got
to get in shot line. Everybodywants getting shot lines. You have players
on the offensive side of things.They have this long take a shot,
you know, because there's somebody that'sgonna get in to get You're taught when

(40:28):
when the plot goes from here andit goes out to the point, you
don't go like that. You golike to this, and then you go
to them because you get into thatpassing or that shooting link. So then
now they got to move it backdown here. But when you play a
certain system in your zone and you'rejust doing this toff all the time,
you're not always in shot line andthen you end up, like I said,
you've got you've got players that arenot playing in the position that they
were taught to play, so tospeak. But again I will say it

(40:49):
that they are a team that thatcan score three four goals a game.
But you guys are both right,playoff time, you're gonna run into a
hot goal. You're gonna just likea hot pitching staff in base one hundred
percent. He just yeah, andthen and you're right, guys, And
there are teams that back end,they back in the bluff. But what
happens one one guy, one guygets hot, Right, you've got somebody
that's gonna put the fuck in thenet. Right, he ends up being

(41:10):
like a plus twelve plus fifteen inthe playoffs because of he just got hot
at the right time. But butit is the back end too though,
Right, it's the goalie. Ifit's a frustrating, if you play right,
you frustrated. They don't get like, yeah, just cashed off.
Yeah there was a year Anaheim gotin early two thousand chumber and then a
goalie just stood on his head andyeah he uh garan yeah, John,

(41:32):
no way, I don't know ifthey won the cup there that year,
but it was like, but hewas actually the con smythe winner that didn't
win the Cup. He was thatgood the second we got behind next all
right, yes, yeah, thatback in the eighties. But that's what
But that's what you're looking for though. It's just a matter of because I
mean you look at these teams lastyear. Who would have thought Florida,
right would have been to the Really, I mean, Boston has just been

(41:54):
just been all year years and herewe go and then you run into the
fun That was because Lebrosky all ofa sudden woke up. But he does
that, he wakes up for twoor three grounds and then all of a
sudden he's been like that this year. I mean, Florida's probably the tough
Philly Brodley would say Florida on theeast, on the east side of things,
I'd say Florida, Carolina, andyou aget you're gonna say Boston and

(42:16):
the Rangers. I mean, that'sI can understand that. But I would
say Florida's got to be number oneto win the Cup on the East and
Carolina maybe number two. On theWest. There's like six teams. Oh
yeah, I mean for you gottaDallas number one. They can get there.
Colorado, they get there always.But they seem to have developed this

(42:37):
how they just continue to just tobuild from what they have, right,
it seems like there's never much changethere when they made a couple of good
moves and made a couple of changes, not like Vegas. Vegas knows that
they can kind of circumvent the cap. I mean, they're gonna get mark
Stone Bath. It goes back now. But because there is no salary cap
once you get it into the playoffs, so they can pick up a couple

(42:59):
guys, which they did, acouple of guys on some some big contracts.
They picked them up, but theygot two guys that are hurt,
so they fit into the cap now. But then when when Game maybe three
comes, there's no more cap,so these guys can all come back and
that eighty four million dollar cap isnow at one hundred. Tampa did it.
That's how Tampa won it. Butthey had to look at where they've
been now now all of a sudden, they've just they're struggling right now.

(43:21):
Yeah but right now, yeah,now could play them in the first round,
yeah, which is a cademy.But see they don't. They haven't
been healthy all year long, andnow they're starting to get healthy, and
then you know it's the whole Youwon the company before you know what you're
gonna You all talk about that andwe know what it takes. All we
gotta do is get to the dance. That's all we gotta dot. Right,

(43:42):
Let's uh, let's pretend that Derekand Nat are here. Derek,
what do you think of the maps? They're great, Nate. I think
they're they've actually they're they're trending up. They're they're a tough team in the
middle right now between Daniel Gafford andDerek Liveley Junior. Uh, they're really
that's the that was like the missingpiece. I believe it because I don't
know either one of them names.Yeah, and I tell people NBA names

(44:06):
and they're like, I've never heardof that guy. I've heard of them.
Again, it's just yeah, you'reright, But but basketball right now,
I mean, you think about it, right, you could have your
best players out there and you're takePhilly for instance, without embiid, right,
they've fallen to that the playing spot. Yeah, I'm looking. I
go they're gonna get boat raced everynight. Look and they're like, they
just won a game. What isgoing on? But in the beauty of
it, though, you talk aboutyou talk about injuries, hockey, baseball,

(44:28):
whatever, it is, the guysthat are getting the reps, getting
the time, and all of asudden, now you've got your guys healthy.
Now you're not playing right with justsix guys, seven guys. You're
playing with a full bench of guys, couple nine guys. What's aout?
I don't know, eight or nineis? You know, what's I don't
know. Basketball carries, I meanthey have a very I think they carry
fifteen. But in the playoffs,especially, you're only going eight deep at

(44:50):
the most, maybe maybe nine.But now you've got guys you can rely
on. Right now you're playing.But get an embid, yes, right
if you're gout if they're not goinganywhere in the playoff unless they get it.
But a healthy but he's you know, back, but being able to
do that, right, But likeyou said, you get in Okay,
now they get into this with theplayoffs, the play in yeah, whatever
it is. Yeah, it's adifferent name. Yes, Oh my gosh,
they have an end season tournament.Now they have a post a postseason

(45:13):
playing tournament. How many team it'sall about money? Are there not sixteen
teams in the NBA that get in? It's yeah, there's the top of
nicks. The top six are automatically, and then there's a play in for
there's so then you get four morethat have a chance seven in a playoffs,
get four more. The top sixare in. I think then seven
plays not ten, eight plays nine, Then they play, they do,

(45:34):
and then the winners of those twogames put the Yeah, they get the
AKA when the real tournaments start.How many teams are in? Sixteen?
Yes? Okay, so they're justcreating it's money. It's basketball, right,
what sixty four now will be atone hundred and twenty five at some
point in basketball? Yeah, Imean we got that many teams are in
the NBA thirty two. I'm justlike hockey. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(45:54):
And there'll be more. There's gonnabe there's gonna be expansion in Vegas.
Is gonna be one of them?Yea? That yeah? Yeah.
Isn't Lebron gonna buy that team?Brady's about to buy the Raiders. He's
gonna That's what I keep here,right, the bid for Brady to buy
it, you know, and thenthat's because he's gonna be on our team
and he's gonna come back and playProbably nice, we played too much golf.

(46:17):
Yeah, but that's what. Butthat's what they think about these big
city Nashville is gonna be another onethat's gonna get. It's gonna have They're
gonna have baseball. They're gonna baseballbaseball because they're building a Brandy football stadium
something ungodly that they're building down there. So you've got hockey, You've got
basket. Oh no, you've gotMemphis on basketball. I mean I think
that they have. No Nashville didn't. How was the other team that was

(46:38):
people are just played for a member. Oh yeah, yeah that was that's
Memphis. That was the other teamthat was down there today? Do you
understand that the people that are listeningto this podcast, people are thinking,
why do these guys just stick towhat they So we're trying to nod to
Derek and Nate. Nate, howdo you think the Cowboys will be?
Oh my god, this is abad offseason. So why Cowboy's not going

(47:02):
to be good? Well? Idon't think so, Is that right?
Jerry's I've actually seen the circle oflife for the Cowboy Jerry. Jerry's like
the circle of life. This isour year. We're good, we get
to the playoffs. We chowed goingback to the Yeah, I think the
Green Bay Packers says something doing that. They every year, Yeah, every

(47:22):
year, usually Aaron Rodgers. Nowit's Jordan loves Daddy their daddy. Yeah,
yeah's going to be a vice president. Hello. Uh it was Brett
fare back in the day. Youknow, I mean it doesn't matter so
yeah, no, but they whatthey have done, Jerry says, we're
all in and I don't know.They spend three million dollars announcer, Yeah,

(47:42):
a couple of training staff members,nothing, So is it time for
Jerry to go? Have you everheard that before? Do you ask any
Cowboy fan? They've been waiting forthat. But think about it, Jerry,
Jerry plays he's the owner, right, what's the owners shot? Spend
money? What's the gentle maners?Jot to the children team? What happens

(48:04):
when you're both Yeah, right,but you wants to spend money and yeah,
but if I'm a you're you ownthem, so wait, nobody else
but you do. He does wantto win. He does. He doesn't
pay Deck, but he won hundredmillion dollars he already got for hire.
Did but it was a short cut. Yes, so his cap the cap
their cap space, and so we'llgo through. I think the division they

(48:25):
talked about. I guess his salarycap pit this year is like fifty million
or fifty five, almost sixty six. I think it's fifty nine. Yes.
Yeah, the Eagles go out andsign about six dudes or something and
they're still thirty two million under theircap their cap pit. Yeah, they
restructed. I think they restructured Deck, right, that something that happened.
Yeah, I mean they did.They're talking about they're talking about adding years

(48:47):
to it. You add, youpay all this for one player, and
you can't go get one another player. It's like a video game. I
just want the best guy, right, and I'm gonna sign Rad, but
you know whatever, we'll do thisand what's that working on it? Yeah,
No, that's what I'm saying.That's why fans, that's why I
love it, because there's always turmoil. But that's why Cowboy fans are so
pissed off because this is not avideo game. This is reality. To

(49:07):
Cowboy fans like that. I thinkthat's probably fifty to fifty though, but
you're right. I mean, youknow he hasn't won. Yeah, you
know what, that's what people baseit off of. What have you done
for the winning is nothing? Imean, it's you know, just like
with Romo. Romo was a isa great quarterback, but he didn't win
and it did nothing exactly. Butthat's what I'm But that's what I mean.

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That's just in general, that's whatpeople want. Right Philly, Philly
just it's a blue collar city.Shut your mouth and do your job,
right. Can you imagine if bothDak was in Philly, Bronnie and these
guys are, he would get runout of town. Yeah, I mean,
but that's just But it's one.What's it come down to the media.
What the media portrays an athlete as, right, he's das and God

(49:52):
send for the cow that's great.Do you go, you know, football
game? I'll go. Where aremy Eagles going to talk to him?
Oh? My god, Dak isnot the answer. That not this because
they're they let what Tony Poller left? Where do you have Tennessee? Yeah,
yeah, you're running back that youlet go of Zeke The year before.
Now you've let Now you've let goof Pollard, and then now all
of a sudden, you've missed outon Saquon, You've missed out on on

(50:13):
Derrick Henry, You've missed out onAaron Jones. You've missed out got Austin
Rico doubt Rico. Yeah, wedon't have enough money because we've got to
pay our quarterback. And then you'regonna have to pay Michael Parsons your hand.
By the way, they're quarterbacks inperil because they just let the best
offensive lineman in the end go tothe New York Gens. Yeah, to
work with Aaron Rodgers Tyrone. Sohere you go. But then you've got

(50:36):
these other that are there. That'sthe that's the beauty of is the parody
of across the sport itself, ofwhat these these guys are doing and the
amount of money they're throwing it.They're quarterbacks. But if you're smart about
it, right, you have peoplearound you to own. Hey, you're
the GM, your player development guys, what do we need to do.
It's supposed to need to get outon Sunday's warm like this is common knowledge.

(50:58):
Not for me. You live ina whole you do. Does a
Christmas tree still for your parents house? Yeah? Yeah, she got two
of them. So when you're listeningto a football game, are you a
Troy guy or me? Either they'rethere, They're they're there. No,

(51:21):
there's no, ok here's an optionthe other. No, I can't.
Troy's better than I think than Tony. Yes, okay, but here's but
when you get into announcing sports,for instance, there are homers. Jack
Edwards Boston Bruins. I have tomute the televis. That's a homer.
Yeah, I have to mute thetelevision. There are guys in the NFL

(51:42):
and other sports. Tim mccarvern baseball. I had to mute the television because
it is so bad. There's nothere's no level playing. You're wrong and
you're right now, Boston Bruins fan, you love you, Okay, but
I just talking about nationally. Butjust think about though. But as a
third already of watching a game,I want to know that you're both sides.

(52:02):
I mean, you hear about theplayoffs, right these all we talk
about is one sing John Matten.I mean, it's amazing Brett Farber is
able to play football as much asJohn Matten hung on him. You know,
he wouldn't even be playing. He'dbe at home watching playing GoF Brett
Farbill. Do that. You knowhow to stick to what's going on so
people can enjoy what they're hearing.I don't want to hear about something Oh
this is back when this guy did. I don't care. I want to

(52:24):
hear what's going on. I don'twant to hear about your political beliefs or
anything else. I want to watcha sporting event and I want to know
whatever what's going on, it's happening. I want to be a roundside Troy
or Roman. If you if yougot to chanays you're watching the game Troy
dude, to be honest, Imean I've taken. If I'm given only
those two choices, I'll take Troy. But I think of the national But

(52:45):
Troy comes with Joe Bucker, right, and that's the part. So there're
so but of the national analysts,I think Collin's work this is oh no,
I agree with that harm for you. Yeah, I just think Colin's
worth one hundred point. I thinkcollins Worth just brings me the game.
You know he got it, obviously. I don't a lot of the guys

(53:05):
that gets into the game. Yea, if I'm announcing a game, I'm
in there. Oh gosh, itlooks like like those are the guys that
that's Madden. That's how maddened?Did you want to hear that? Because
those they've played it, they knowwhat it feels like, right. I
think that too many of them areanalytical, But I'm glad they're getting a
lot more guys that have played tocall to call games. I want a
hockey guy to call a hockey beast, So I I know who I did

(53:27):
not like in the first I thinkit was his first year, but I
really thought he's come a long waybecause Greg Olsen, Okay, I didn't
like. Now I think he's kindof opened up a little bit. But
that's not what I really care about. I just wanted to because I talk
to people all the time and I'mI'm just curious. I don't care either
way. I just wanted to.I find that Troy tells you more about

(53:49):
the players of what's going on andstuff like that. Were Romo calls to
play before it happens, and andhe looks like a lot of people love
that. They look like they wantto say they was a suit sayer man.
He's like, like the everyone,everyone one of those guys could do
that. I mean they all justsee the quarterbacks. Yeah, the quarterbacks
look at it and go, ohyeah, it's gonna be a you know,
cover two go this way that theyknow, and Romo just brought it
to the air, which was youknow, it's a good part. And

(54:10):
then sometimes he just calls a numbernumber of the player, which good guy's
name or yeah? Is that justold? I mean is that just when
you played you always use numbers?Yeah, sixty two, I don't know.
Yeah. So all right, man, it's been fun. We got
to go. We've solved all theproblems. We're done. I think we're
done. We got to get MENSIout of here. Yeah, we gotta
get the best. You had toleave in thirty minutes. Do you see

(54:31):
what happens around here? We've beenhere for an hour. Yeah, it's
a whiskey. It's not us exactly. Oh and by the way, do
you like Revolver beer? By anyway, have you had any Revolver? You're
a vall bear guy now you knowthe beer guy. I leave the beer
to you. Yeah, yeah,because Don and I had we were vulner
It was kind of cool. We'relooking for a sponsor Revolver. Well,

(54:52):
we were with some snipers and shootinga lot of guns and they had Revolver
beer. Yeah. Well hey,nothing better to the at little beer and
alcohol, alcohol and gains, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
another podcast. That's the Subs andSubs with Loves and we got to get
we gotta get harp and data.We're get them out here. We're gonna
talk about colored greens. No,and now I'll tell you what we're gonna

(55:15):
do. You know, we cando this. I'll call our guy,
our sniper, and we'll do apodcast with Nate Harmanchi, you and me
right out from there. Oh nice, shoot, yeah, we'll do the
Yeah, the four of us andwe'll have a we'll have a competition,
yeah, little competition on Yeah,Okay, I like it. That's probably
only two we're going to come back, but we'll have a compet yeah,

(55:37):
right to the death. Yeah exactly. We just had so many Revolvers.
We just screwed it up with theRevolver. So all right, guys,
thank you, we'll see you nexttime. We don't know what we call
this, suns and luds and bighead Pod. Todd, what what do
you what do you actually call it? What is it? Big head pod,
the big head Pod, big headPod, head Pod and the Montague.

(56:00):
I don't understand where you got thatname from him, but yeah,
that's why we have three cameras outhere. He has had too many concussions.
Yeah, that's our next topic,concussion, concussions. Yeah, I
don't know if we've got concussions.Yeah, next next time. Well,
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We'll see you next time.