April 25, 2023 • 34 mins
Nate Newton, co-host of Lemme Tell You Somethin' on the DUB Network, stops by to chat about the upcoming NFL draft and both Kevin and Nate share their expirences of draft day and entering their leagues.
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here on the Dubed Network. Today'sguest, I hate saying the name.
I can't say the name of theteam, but his name. He was
a great offensive line. He blockeda lot of people three times Super Bowl
champion and the co host of LetMe tell You Something, mister Nate Newton,
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how are you today, sir?Good to see Kevin Man. It's
easy for me to talk about theRangers off the bench of the Rangers,
you know what I'm saying. So, but it's cool, it's cool.
It's cool, man, you're lookinggood. I saw a beautiful young lady
that was on earlier. You know, I was trying to get this thing
rocking and rolling called Spencier Bass.Had us messed up? Yeah, I
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gotta call. Yeah, I don't. I don't let nothing right, Kevin.
I don't let nothing ride. Sowhoever the beautiful young lady was till
I say hello, and she didn'twant to leave you. Spencer acknowledge her.
So they make going back and forththis morning. But no, man,
I appreciate Nate jumping on. Iknow this well. Coming up the
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NFL Draft, big day, bigday coming up. So from your perspective,
Na, coming out of college,the draft, it's a different field
for baseball than it is I thinkfor the NFL because we had I think
when I was drafted, we hadfifty rounds and they've cut it down.
Yeah, so you guys have whatseven? Is that? What it is?
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Matter? We had seven of newand it used to be sixteen when
I first started watching the draft,and then I think they cut it down
to eleven or twelve by time Igot to the draft. And you know
what's so so disheartening, CAB isI couldn't even get any drafted when it
was twelve. I was, Iwasn't even good enough to be drafted when
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it was twelve. When were youdrafted? When you came up fourth round?
So it lord geez having a round? I think the only thirty five
maybe fifty something maybe ye who thinkit? At least you? And if
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that that means you are a goodplayer, bro, Yeah, And that
means I wasn't a good player twelverounds and I couldn't. That's the thing.
That's the thing you've got. Plusthat's not even on top of the
guys that were undrafted that gets signedkind of like with you guys. So
I'm thinking about the amount of playersthat go through the amount of money and
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it's you know, it's changed exponentiallynow that they had loopholes and NFL had
it as well, where but Bradfordgot seventy million dollars or something out of
the dress something ridiculous, right,Sam bradfordgot who Yes, I mean when
they used to play play you forpay you for potential only and not for
for duction. Wow, and they'remaking more money now than ever and yet
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all that stuff completely changed. Soso going into it, you know,
I'm sure you hear the hype rightyour your school, Hey, agents and
guys coming to you. Hey,Nate, you're gonna go You're gonna get
drafted this and that. What wereyou hearing as a as a as a
college junior, college senior. Wasyour junior senior get drafted? Uh?
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For me, it was a backthen it was you had bill senior.
You had to have played four yearsof college ball equivalent to that, you
know, and so uh nobody,you know, the few agents that came
at me at Florida and them,uh they they they didn't they didn't preach
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that. It was like, youknow, you'll you'll be a free agent.
Uh uh if you do get draftedto be in the twelfth round later
in the twelfth round. And soI wasn't even thinking that. So but
I was still excited as a youngman watching the draft. I watched the
draft. I hung around the house. I think the Pittsburgh still has called
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me at round about the ninth ortenth round and said, man, a
scout called, I'm trying to fightfor you. I'm trying to get you
drafted, but if we don't,can we possibly get you as that?
You what that was set up?You know, you calling me to fill
me out to see if I'm readyto sign with y'all. To the free
agent, I said, well sir, y'all, y'all do what y'all have
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to do. This is the numberto my agent was a Jim Neider,
a baseball guy. You know.He was a baseball guy into you know,
because he had Strawberry he had uhI think I can't think of Dwight
Good And he had guys like thatwho was his guys. And so I
was just he was trying to breakinto football and h at that time we
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had the USFL too, you know, the original USFL. So he was
a straight up guy, Christian guy, just straight up man, Jim Neaterer.
And he was like, man,I don't I don't see you getting
drafted, but here's my number.Uh. He had like five or six
guys off of the one Florida andm team that you know, he figured
had a shot at at least gettinga free agent contract. So, uh,
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several teams called me, but Iknew, uh that was that was
the Dan Marino era. I camein with Dan Marino and all of those
guys, and uh so we hadsome graves, a quarterback, a gifted
draft, and a lot of greatplayers came out of that draft. So
it didn't bothered me by not gettingdrafted. But when I got into camp
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and sought the competition I was goingagainst with the Washington Commanders that they are
now, back then it was thered Skins. That's who I signed with
as a free agent, and Iwas just excited. Man. I wasn't
looking to make nobody team and reallydidn't even act like I should have been
there, even though I had guysin my corner. And it's a head
coach that really loved men, CoachGibbs, and he was he just couldn't
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believe it here, just got withhis talent, just having fun and jacking
around. You know, That's whatI You know, that's how I got
released, just jacking around having fun. Yeah, that's different. Than man.
I know, that's different than whatyou used to normally hearing, you
know, but that's the life ofa young man. So I mean,
so you're not really it's approached byteam. They're coming and just saying this
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is what we're looking for. Butthey bring in, I mean, guys
come in, right, even undraftedguys. They bring in for a workout
as all it is. And thenit's just you gotta fight for it.
Right back in my day, cab, let me explain to you, back
in my day, once you wereeligible for the draft, it wasn't they
didn't bring you in. Scouts cameto your home like they much like they
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do like now. After the combine, guys workout, have personal workouts where
if a team wanted you. Teamswere so secretive back then and so just
shut and close mouth. I wentto the Bledsoels scout and combine. It
was only about seven teams Detroit,Dallas and a few other teams that got
together and we was at the PontiacSilver Dome and we worked out maybe one
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hundred two hundred guys and that theyselected and thought that could be drafted.
And you know, I felt justhonored to go and work out with all
of these you know, Power fiveguys. So but what guys would do.
They were so secretive back then thatthey would come They're like, hey,
man, I'm gonna fly in onthis day. Be ready, I'm
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gonna work you out. I hadTampa Bay come to Orlando and workout.
I've worked out for the Washington Commanders, and I would think I worked out
for one other team and they justflew in and they flew out. You
know, I thought that if anybodywould sign me, it would be the
Pittsburgh still just because when I wasat the Bledsol scouting Comebine, they paid
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the most attention to me. Nowwe had our workout where Florida State was
the major school up on the northend of Tallahasset. They were that that
that you know, that that Powerfive school. So what they would do
is in the week that they wouldhave those workouts for the for Florida State,
they would call our coach and say, hey, on Thursday Friday,
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at this time, guys that areyou know that want to work out or
guys that else would work out,this is the workout times. And so
we had to be there loosen up. So when this Scout came to us,
we had to be ready because,for lack of a better turn,
we were setting class citizens compared tothe Florida State guys. And uh,
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and we worked out and that's whatwe did. And and maybe because I
didn't think that these guys was takingus serious, I didn't take them serious.
And it was my career I wasplaying with and one mature enough to
know it. So you know,I know you're like, wow, well
I would you know, I like, I tell people other guys now that
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this thing has taken a turn,and it's a lot more serious. It's
a lot more computerized. Up today, everybody knows everybody's business. Maybe
I would take it different to intoday's world. But back then, I
really didn't think that I would be. I would be on anybody they do
the interviews with you, the personalstuff where they just sit down with you
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like this and have these conversations,or to just basically word of mouth through
a scout. Yeah, a scout. Yeah, the scout did it all.
And uh, I think it wasbetter football then. I think it
was better for because because coaches canpick players. But I'm telling you,
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Kevin, if I was a scout, and let's say I was looking at
you as a as any any sport, you don't matter what sport. Well,
first of all, you're not gonnaknow I'm looking at you for a
couple of months, because you mayhear like, hey, this scout for
the Cowboys came around and uh whowhat did he want? When he talked
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to the trainer, he talked tothe to the equipment man, and he
just went up on campus to talkto some of the people that you know
and just hey, how is Kevin? Because first of all, they wanted
to know what were your character waslike, you know what, who were
you? Really? Were you aselfish person? Were you're a team type
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person? And then I would contactthe coach and asked for film. And
once I watched film on you andmade a decision from what I've talked from
the outside world and saw your footballhabits and what you did on feel then
I would talk to your head coach, and then I would talk to your
position coach because I don't want toknow. I don't want to have already
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preconceived notion like a lot of coaches, like a lot of scouts. Did
you know a lot of guys gotdrafted lord, because they didn't do their
homework on the back end. Sowhen they talked to the head coach first
or the position coach that may notlike you, I may not care for
you. You got you gotta misconceptionon this kid. Now you missed out
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on a great kid. So that'show I would have done it. And
so and a lot of scouts didit that way. They wanted to know
about Like Gil Brandt was one ofthe best scouts ever. But until Gil
trusted us, a head coach trustedthe people on the front end. He
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always talked to the to the trainer, to other players, to equipment man,
stuff like that, trying to findout who this guy is, what
he's about. And so that's justhow that's just how it went. And
they did the interviews, the scouts, the scouts they all met, you
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know, they had their different regionsand you know, and I've learned this
over the years that this is howthey did it, especially back in the
old school days where they did allthe footwork and they came to the coach
after they found out what what theylike in a player. The scouts already
had what they thought the players shouldbe and the coaches had the thoughts of
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actually putting the players on the fieldand coaching them what they think it should
players should be. So the scoutswould do all the footwork, all of
their work, and they would bringit back and hand it to the head
coach and the position coaches and say, hey, this is what we accumulated.
What do you like Now? That'swhen the coaches step in. Now.
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The owner and coaches are always beenbig on the first round, but
in the NFL, the scouts frommaybe the third round own does most of
the drafting. The good teams,and I say the good teams like the
Stillers and the Ugly Green team inthe East. They have great scout income
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binds, and they have great becausethey can easily rebuild because they know their
blueprint. The Cowboys have had problemsbecause they don't really have a blueprint.
You know, we have never beenable to say besides offensive lineman, been
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able to draft the position maybe offensiveline and wide. Receive them draft the
draft and know what you're looking for, like the Stillers three four linebackers.
They're the master yep, they arethe master defensive lineman. Philadelphia will go
get you one all day, everyday. Here's just certain teams you can
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lock up and say they know whatthis looked like. The Bears, I
don't know now, but the Bearlinebacker, they can pick him in the
sleep. They can pick him inthey sleep. And so when you're dealing
with scouts that are doing most ofthe footwork and the GM is doing most
of the footwork, I'm talking abouta true GM. Missus Jones. He
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knows I love him, but he'snot a true GM. His son is.
His son is more of that GMnow. But you have to go
out and live this this world.And it's only a few teams. I
think that that that does that stilldoes that. The Cowboys used to be
number one at them distillers, theGiants when I was coming up, these
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were the teams that you could notmess around with. The forty nine ers.
They knew what their system required andthey could go out and get those
flare You're right, though, yousee that now more and more position guys
throughout the NFL. With with withthat, I mean, you're right,
the amount of homework that they dobecause the amount of money that's invested,
so they are going, like yousaid, from down to the nitty gritties,
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of cutting through and getting all thatdone. And it's amazing. Especially
they said the amount of money thatthey're putting in, that's an investment.
And I think that's why with withwhat seven rounds in the NFL, of
why so, yeah, yes,we really have to do our extra homework
because of there's only a few thatreally fit into this this mold of what
we need. So right, they'regonna do their their legwork. But like
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you said, it was a littlebit different when you were playing. There
were more rounds, so it wasn'tpact. They didn't have the numbers like
they do now, the analytics andvideo so but you know, baseball,
I don't remember any of them doingthat stuff. It was just somebody's there.
They talked to you. You talkedto agents, you know, to
start calling and say hey, youknow there's a chance you could get drafted
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this and that, and then theytalked with other than that, we didn't
really have any kind of formal interviewsother than maybe a like a color chart
where you can see, you know, zero to ten, pick colors,
and that's what I finally realized thatI was color blind. I couldn't get
past number four. So it wasone of those. I looked and luckily
I only had hit the white ball. But that was really all the interaction
we really had. And then phonecall and draft draft day, and you
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figure out now, I think it'sspread over a couple of days of doing
it. You know, the firstround is always everything's aired right now,
all the drafts, all sports,everything's aired. But other than that,
it was just a phone call.You know, hey, you got drafted,
Okay. Everything. The thing aboutit, though, I understood baseball
a little bit better because y'all hadso many leagues. Even even even when
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y'all were kids, it was y'allhad a team, B team. I
knew they had different names. I'mjust being simple. Y'all had A,
B and C players, and itnever stopped. Even in college, y'all
had A, B and C players, and these scouts I always was watching
from afar, whereas in the NFL. In the NFL, they never stopped.
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They never started looking at us untilwe got in college. Some of
you guys were good enough that y'allwere looked at it high school. So
people knew that my I had unclesuncles that played h baseball for different teams
in different even back, and thisis thirty years ago. So baseball has
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always had some type of system inplace, whereas football, Like I say,
when you get into twelfth grade andyou get into college, it wasn't
a such thing as a super freshmanbecause you were gonna get red shirted and
you weren't gonna play a lot.So the scouts didn't really get to see
you into your sophomore year if youare an impact player, because you had
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to sit on that pine. Andthen when you became a junior. Now
unless you were elite in which thatwas far and few between. When I
was coming through you, they didn'tsee you. So when they got a
chance to get with you and seeyou, they had to put their homework.
They had to start doing their homework. And the smart teams, which
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the Cowboys and the Schillers were wellahead of the game back then. They
were they were dispatching guys. Yougot the southeast region, you lap over
into this region going up up north. You know, you got the North,
and they would lap over you andthey would double check each other's work,
you know. And where the playerswas at that time was in the
South and then the northeast. That'swhere the players were presumed to be that.
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We know, players come from everywhere, but back in the day in
the south and in the north,and then you know in the northeast,
that's where they presume most of theplayers was, so, you know,
and that's how it went. Andso the smarter teams like the Cowboys,
they had five and six and sevenand eight scouts. Well, other teams
would maybe have two or three scoutsscanning in the country and they knew that's
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and you're writing some of those wouldoverlap it. And you talk about how
you know, how you know,he said, social media and film and
everything. Now they can find guysall over the place. You know.
Now you're finding guys in Australia playingin Australia, you know, rugg you
know Australia's football. You got guysfrom all over the place. And it's
amazing how global this has become onall sports really, but especially I mean
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football, because you always think footballis in American sport, but I mean,
it's it's gone global. Now.They've talked about wanting to move team,
which is a whole nother you knowtalk, but moving teams to Europe
and everything else. But I meanit's and it's it's tough because of right.
You know. And when we wereplaying high school, you said eighteen
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you could get drafted or twenty onein college or your junior year or whatever
came first. So but as afootball player, you just you still had
to go for another three forty years. You couldn't at eighteen. Yeah,
you couldn't be ready, you know, going to the NFL. You're never
going to see that. So andit's it's a hard So that mentality of
right, maybe that weeded out alot more guys that were playing football eighteen.
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Gosh, I don't know if Icould do this for another four years.
And wait, right, I'm sureyou played with guys that were that
way as opposed to so now youcan be a junior and get drafted.
Uh, it's all about maturity andand and I wasn't mature, man,
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It's amazing. I went all theway into my uh senior year and uh
the end of my junior year.Yeah, the beginning of my senior year.
That's when the US vailpiped up,and uh, they were drafting guys,
and they had guys that fell upunder their you know, if you
fell into a certain area this teamhad, like Tampa Bay had most of
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Florida, you know, the BirminghamStatue had all of Alabama and a little
bit of Georgia. So uh,just depending on you know that, and
you were the automatic pick for them. They didn't have to pick you.
You fell up under their the area. So you you were there, guy,
And that's how I went to wentout up at the Tampa Bay.
I went to Washington first, gotreleased, made it to their last cut,
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and then I went went back touh to uh the Tampa Bay Bandits,
and I met Marty. I can'tthink of coach Marty's uh. I
don't know if that's first name oflast name, but I can't, you
know. But anyway, he wasthe first guy that just talked to me
hard. I mean it's like,you know, I'm in practice, having
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fun, jack and around, andhe just pulled me to the side.
He said, man, you know, I called the people at Washington and
he said, do you do youreally want to make my team? The
Tampa Bay banner said yeah, coach, I'll like you know me, okay,
yeah, cool? All right,you know, he said, quite
quit you know, messing around,man, He said, you didn't.
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You didn't get released because you wasn'tgood enough. You got released because you
jacked around. They trying to winsuper Bowls, in which they had just
they won a super Bowl that followingthe year. If I got released,
you could have been on the superBowl winning team and you jacking around,
playing around. Is you gonna evertake anything serious? And it kind of
shook me, you know, becausenobody never came at me from that point
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of view, you know, anduh, and it changed who I was
and kind of changed a lot ofthe things I did when it came to
I was good when I was competing, you know, I went against the
guy I was down for, butgetting myself ready mentally and from all that
different, I wasn't mature. Iwas young. I was. I was
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one,but I was mature more. You probably
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way more mature at that age whenit came to your sport than I was.
And so but guys now they takethis thing so serious, you know.
You you know, a kid canbe seventeen and had a mindset that,
hey, you know, he's ready, you know, and he's doing
everything possible for that. Now youstill had a guy that, you know,
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be a little bit out of shape. I have a little bumping grind
right here, but I man,I would about to change. Hey,
right, I think some of thatis, like I said, a lot
of us are immature at that age. We don't know anything, especially even
back then. M Yeah, butyou're right the way things are now,
everything's so laser focused at such ayoung age. These guys are they're basically
machines bred to to do that.But I'm sure there are a lot of
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guys that just faded because of theburnout that they're that they're forced into.
I mean, heck, look wherewe live. Football is king here.
That's all it is everywhere you go. So I mean it's you know,
watching that seeing that. I'm surethere are some great athletes that will never
hear of because of that mentality rightthere. It's almost like there was you
were talking about, Yeah, sofar on one side, and now these
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guys are so far on the other. Maybe they're somewhere in the middle or
they can figure it out, butyou know, only time will tell where
they can be. A kid.Yeah, my kid went to the University
of Texas. Uh, he stoppedbecause he had one too many concussions.
And but he had he would havehad a shot, had been a pro
running bag. And uh, Ithink he had the right mentality, you
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know, he was. He wasa good kid, gottish degree in business
communication. Was always a level headedkid. Love football, but he also
knew how to have fun, youknow, not not not like his pop,
not over the overboard, you know, gotta have the extra beer,
you know, gotta you know,run the girls, gotta you know,
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uh, jumping the wrong car.You know. He was that guy that
you know, gonna have one onegirlfriend. Uh, wasn't gonna drink,
you know, just just the rightkid for the job. But like I
said, he was that physical thingof the you know. And so I
tell people like this here man,when it comes to the NFL especial,
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when you're talking about being a toptwo pick, a first or second rounder,
the money they spend, uh youand I'll use this kid from Georgia.
Uh look, Jalen Carter, thiskid, you know how but this
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kid has been in was horrific.You know, a couple of deaths racing
a car. Uh, couple ofpeople got you know, you know,
not no longer with us. Thiskid is still ranked in some of the
rankings, ESPN ranked number five.Maybe he's a top ten pick. Do
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you know how good he has tobe to have went through what he's went
through and still possibly be a topten pick. How good he is,
But the immaturity he's shown, hecould have been the first player picked easily,
or the second player picked, evenwith these quarterbacks that everybody like.
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So the money they spend the guysthat they're trying to put is the face
of the enfranchise. I can't imagineit, man, even now that I
know this, Even now that Isee this and talking to you and the
other guys that the Dubed network ofall of us were great athletes, great
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performers, you know, and andand I still say that some of these
cats that are coming out of howultra talented they are, and the money
that the NFL is spending to investigate, especially for your first and second round
pick players, the money that they'reputting in, the time that they're putting
in, man, and still maynot hit right. But I'm just giving
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you a guy who's could have beena top pick, but just through his
immaturity, he didn't fall far.You know, I know it's a difference
between first round first player pick thenmaybe the tenth of level player pick,
but you're still a first round pick, you know. So it's it's money
being spent, it's time being invested. It's just it's just what team that's
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willing to get on the table foryou, what guy had guys believed in
me. Hen, when I gotto the Cowboys, I had a couple
of coaches, you know, becauseI went to a team the Cowboys that
did not like fat guys. Fatguys were off the table. They was
like red listed, you know,when you get the red by your name
that means do not touch. Sowhen you got over two hundred and eighty
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pounds, the Cowboys started putting littlewarning signs up there. So can you
imagine a guy three hundred forty Ohyeah, they had on me, and
they took a chance. Yeah,they took a chance. And that's and
that's good, Like you said,just that's the opportunity that you were given.
And you know you're able to talkabout it and see. So it'll
be interesting to see where these guyswhere this this thing plays out. Um,
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you know, it just it getscut down to the nitty gritty,
like you said, the amount ofmoney, and you have all the projections
and everything else, but at theend of the day, it just comes
down to what what they need,what's what's best available. So you know
this these next weeks and a fewweeks even the undrafted guys and be interesting
to see where this all plays out. So um, but you know,
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what are you? What are youwhat? And let's get a little more
specific. Man, the cowboys,in my opinion, need need offensive linement
and uh. And the guys thatare in the first round, they're not
gonna be there. The the eliteguys, the guys that you can depend
on the walk in there and startare not gonna be there, uh for
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us. So we're looking at thetight So tight end would be our se
second option. And I like thisDarnelle Washington kid out of Georgia as our
second option. Uh as a firstround pick, but they got him projected
in the second round. Hide inthe second round. And then the running
back, the kid Bejan Robinson.That's not my guy, you know.
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I like the kid at Bama Gibbs. I like him a lot. He's
a playmaker, he's very explosive,he's kind of around the the Tony Pollard
uh ilk, but I think he'sfaster than Tony. Uh, Tony have
the advantage for his experience. Butthose are the guys that I like.
And then, uh, it's oneother tackle. Let me look him up
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here. Uh that some guys insidetold me about. Uh he's a kid
from m Where where are you?I can't find him? But he Uh
he's a kid from uh South DakotaState somewhere. He ain't got no teeth
in front. I wish hockey player. Hey, I don't know what do
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you, bro, But Cody,how you pronounced this m a u cuch
southing malch or mouch? Yeah,cord in mouse North Dakota State. He's
an offensive tackle. He's six fivethree h two North Dakota State. I
wish I could show you a pictureof this kid. I may have a
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picture of him. Because guys thatI like. It seems like the Cowboys
never get these guys. They neverwant these guys, but they always turn
out to be hell of a playersdown the road. I mean, what
y'all don't know what y'all need?Do you know what the Eagles need or
do you have a wish list forthe Eagles. I don't know, hih
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what what come on? Na?Yeah? Yeah? You going on?
Really what they need? I've beendealing with so much stuff else going on.
They talk about Beijon and uh,either the either Jalen Carter, what
y'all need Beijon for? Y'all gotrunning that? That's just what. I
don't know where they trade out.I don't That's why I'd be intrigued us
to see what happens. And thenthis this week with the dress. Hey,
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I'm gonna trying to show you,to show you Cody see that guy?
Yeah yeah, Cody, Baby,that's coldy. We can get him
in the second round. Baby,we can get him and say, hey,
you know what, because Kevin,listen to me, the difference between
the Cowboys the Philadelphia Eagles, ifthe forty nine ers is we don't have
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a big game hunter. Y'all haveseveral big game hunters, guys that can
go out and make plays at theright moments, galvanize their teams at the
right moment. We don't have thatguy and our guys enough of them.
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And until the Cowboys learned that maybewe can get a tight end and this
Washington kid that's big and physical.He's six seven two eighty two seventy runs
by the four six forty. Buthe's physical. He's mean. This this
this kid, Cody, he's physical, he's mean. You started with ask
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you with Tyler Smith. We needguys that when the crunch time come,
we can get physical, we canget mean. And if our quarterback we
don't. Our quarterback is much likey'all quarterback. But y'all quarterback Jalen has
learned the va value of the ball. The bigger the game, the more
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value of the ball. He doesn'tturn that ball over. And even when
he was running down and hit iton his leg, that was that That
was the most freakish thing I eversaw, because that was the difference in
that game against those guys. Andso as much as I love Dak and
want him to prosper, if hedon't learn the value of the ball,
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especially in the bigger games, you'respending your wheels because he who has the
ball the most, lasts the longestand plays the next day. And and
that's just the bottom line. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens
here with trades and everything else.I'm sure you and Zay will be talking
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about it for sure. Yeah,definitely. Man. My My thing is
my brother is. I love talkingto you, man, and I love
just conversing with other guys from othersports man. And I know I probably
didn't get to answer the questions youwanted to answer that whole that got close,
but man, it's always absolutely toyou. I said, Well,
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we'll definitely follow this up again andjust see. But like I said,
we always like the perspective of itand everything else, and people get a
chance to listen to you and Zayand let me tell you something on the
Dumb Network. They said, we'llrevisit it and we'll see what happens after
this draft and uh after the draft, I mean like two or three days
after the draft. Yeah, absolutely, look up and we'll just do it.
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Do a we'll do your show andmy eyes show as one perfect,
make it perfect. But I appreciateyou jumping on Nate and talking about this
and we'll uh they said, it'llbe fun to see what happens here because
it gets down the crunch time andeverything. So but I appreciate Nate.
Yes, sex, brother man,We'll be in touch. Yes, thank
you. All right,
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here on the Dubed Network. Today'sguest, I hate saying the name.
I can't say the name of theteam, but his name. He was
a great offensive line. He blockeda lot of people three times Super Bowl
champion and the co host of LetMe tell You Something, mister Nate Newton,
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how are you today, sir?Good to see Kevin Man. It's
easy for me to talk about theRangers off the bench of the Rangers,
you know what I'm saying. So, but it's cool, it's cool.
It's cool, man, you're lookinggood. I saw a beautiful young lady
that was on earlier. You know, I was trying to get this thing
rocking and rolling called Spencier Bass.Had us messed up? Yeah, I
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gotta call. Yeah, I don't. I don't let nothing right, Kevin.
I don't let nothing ride. Sowhoever the beautiful young lady was till
I say hello, and she didn'twant to leave you. Spencer acknowledge her.
So they make going back and forththis morning. But no, man,
I appreciate Nate jumping on. Iknow this well. Coming up the
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NFL Draft, big day, bigday coming up. So from your perspective,
Na, coming out of college,the draft, it's a different field
for baseball than it is I thinkfor the NFL because we had I think
when I was drafted, we hadfifty rounds and they've cut it down.
Yeah, so you guys have whatseven? Is that? What it is?
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Matter? We had seven of newand it used to be sixteen when
I first started watching the draft,and then I think they cut it down
to eleven or twelve by time Igot to the draft. And you know
what's so so disheartening, CAB isI couldn't even get any drafted when it
was twelve. I was, Iwasn't even good enough to be drafted when
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it was twelve. When were youdrafted? When you came up fourth round?
So it lord geez having a round? I think the only thirty five
maybe fifty something maybe ye who thinkit? At least you? And if
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that that means you are a goodplayer, bro, Yeah, And that
means I wasn't a good player twelverounds and I couldn't. That's the thing.
That's the thing you've got. Plusthat's not even on top of the
guys that were undrafted that gets signedkind of like with you guys. So
I'm thinking about the amount of playersthat go through the amount of money and
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it's you know, it's changed exponentiallynow that they had loopholes and NFL had
it as well, where but Bradfordgot seventy million dollars or something out of
the dress something ridiculous, right,Sam bradfordgot who Yes, I mean when
they used to play play you forpay you for potential only and not for
for duction. Wow, and they'remaking more money now than ever and yet
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all that stuff completely changed. Soso going into it, you know,
I'm sure you hear the hype rightyour your school, Hey, agents and
guys coming to you. Hey,Nate, you're gonna go You're gonna get
drafted this and that. What wereyou hearing as a as a as a
college junior, college senior. Wasyour junior senior get drafted? Uh?
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For me, it was a backthen it was you had bill senior.
You had to have played four yearsof college ball equivalent to that, you
know, and so uh nobody,you know, the few agents that came
at me at Florida and them,uh they they they didn't they didn't preach
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that. It was like, youknow, you'll you'll be a free agent.
Uh uh if you do get draftedto be in the twelfth round later
in the twelfth round. And soI wasn't even thinking that. So but
I was still excited as a youngman watching the draft. I watched the
draft. I hung around the house. I think the Pittsburgh still has called
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me at round about the ninth ortenth round and said, man, a
scout called, I'm trying to fightfor you. I'm trying to get you
drafted, but if we don't,can we possibly get you as that?
You what that was set up?You know, you calling me to fill
me out to see if I'm readyto sign with y'all. To the free
agent, I said, well sir, y'all, y'all do what y'all have
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to do. This is the numberto my agent was a Jim Neider,
a baseball guy. You know.He was a baseball guy into you know,
because he had Strawberry he had uhI think I can't think of Dwight
Good And he had guys like thatwho was his guys. And so I
was just he was trying to breakinto football and h at that time we
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had the USFL too, you know, the original USFL. So he was
a straight up guy, Christian guy, just straight up man, Jim Neaterer.
And he was like, man,I don't I don't see you getting
drafted, but here's my number.Uh. He had like five or six
guys off of the one Florida andm team that you know, he figured
had a shot at at least gettinga free agent contract. So, uh,
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several teams called me, but Iknew, uh that was that was
the Dan Marino era. I camein with Dan Marino and all of those
guys, and uh so we hadsome graves, a quarterback, a gifted
draft, and a lot of greatplayers came out of that draft. So
it didn't bothered me by not gettingdrafted. But when I got into camp
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and sought the competition I was goingagainst with the Washington Commanders that they are
now, back then it was thered Skins. That's who I signed with
as a free agent, and Iwas just excited. Man. I wasn't
looking to make nobody team and reallydidn't even act like I should have been
there, even though I had guysin my corner. And it's a head
coach that really loved men, CoachGibbs, and he was he just couldn't
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believe it here, just got withhis talent, just having fun and jacking
around. You know, That's whatI You know, that's how I got
released, just jacking around having fun. Yeah, that's different. Than man.
I know, that's different than whatyou used to normally hearing, you
know, but that's the life ofa young man. So I mean,
so you're not really it's approached byteam. They're coming and just saying this
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is what we're looking for. Butthey bring in, I mean, guys
come in, right, even undraftedguys. They bring in for a workout
as all it is. And thenit's just you gotta fight for it.
Right back in my day, cab, let me explain to you, back
in my day, once you wereeligible for the draft, it wasn't they
didn't bring you in. Scouts cameto your home like they much like they
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do like now. After the combine, guys workout, have personal workouts where
if a team wanted you. Teamswere so secretive back then and so just
shut and close mouth. I wentto the Bledsoels scout and combine. It
was only about seven teams Detroit,Dallas and a few other teams that got
together and we was at the PontiacSilver Dome and we worked out maybe one
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hundred two hundred guys and that theyselected and thought that could be drafted.
And you know, I felt justhonored to go and work out with all
of these you know, Power fiveguys. So but what guys would do.
They were so secretive back then thatthey would come They're like, hey,
man, I'm gonna fly in onthis day. Be ready, I'm
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gonna work you out. I hadTampa Bay come to Orlando and workout.
I've worked out for the Washington Commanders, and I would think I worked out
for one other team and they justflew in and they flew out. You
know, I thought that if anybodywould sign me, it would be the
Pittsburgh still just because when I wasat the Bledsol scouting Comebine, they paid
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the most attention to me. Nowwe had our workout where Florida State was
the major school up on the northend of Tallahasset. They were that that
that you know, that that Powerfive school. So what they would do
is in the week that they wouldhave those workouts for the for Florida State,
they would call our coach and say, hey, on Thursday Friday,
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at this time, guys that areyou know that want to work out or
guys that else would work out,this is the workout times. And so
we had to be there loosen up. So when this Scout came to us,
we had to be ready because,for lack of a better turn,
we were setting class citizens compared tothe Florida State guys. And uh,
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and we worked out and that's whatwe did. And and maybe because I
didn't think that these guys was takingus serious, I didn't take them serious.
And it was my career I wasplaying with and one mature enough to
know it. So you know,I know you're like, wow, well
I would you know, I like, I tell people other guys now that
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this thing has taken a turn,and it's a lot more serious. It's
a lot more computerized. Up today, everybody knows everybody's business. Maybe
I would take it different to intoday's world. But back then, I
really didn't think that I would be. I would be on anybody they do
the interviews with you, the personalstuff where they just sit down with you
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like this and have these conversations,or to just basically word of mouth through
a scout. Yeah, a scout. Yeah, the scout did it all.
And uh, I think it wasbetter football then. I think it
was better for because because coaches canpick players. But I'm telling you,
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Kevin, if I was a scout, and let's say I was looking at
you as a as any any sport, you don't matter what sport. Well,
first of all, you're not gonnaknow I'm looking at you for a
couple of months, because you mayhear like, hey, this scout for
the Cowboys came around and uh whowhat did he want? When he talked
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to the trainer, he talked tothe to the equipment man, and he
just went up on campus to talkto some of the people that you know
and just hey, how is Kevin? Because first of all, they wanted
to know what were your character waslike, you know what, who were
you? Really? Were you aselfish person? Were you're a team type
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person? And then I would contactthe coach and asked for film. And
once I watched film on you andmade a decision from what I've talked from
the outside world and saw your footballhabits and what you did on feel then
I would talk to your head coach, and then I would talk to your
position coach because I don't want toknow. I don't want to have already
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preconceived notion like a lot of coaches, like a lot of scouts. Did
you know a lot of guys gotdrafted lord, because they didn't do their
homework on the back end. Sowhen they talked to the head coach first
or the position coach that may notlike you, I may not care for
you. You got you gotta misconceptionon this kid. Now you missed out
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on a great kid. So that'show I would have done it. And
so and a lot of scouts didit that way. They wanted to know
about Like Gil Brandt was one ofthe best scouts ever. But until Gil
trusted us, a head coach trustedthe people on the front end. He
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always talked to the to the trainer, to other players, to equipment man,
stuff like that, trying to findout who this guy is, what
he's about. And so that's justhow that's just how it went. And
they did the interviews, the scouts, the scouts they all met, you
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know, they had their different regionsand you know, and I've learned this
over the years that this is howthey did it, especially back in the
old school days where they did allthe footwork and they came to the coach
after they found out what what theylike in a player. The scouts already
had what they thought the players shouldbe and the coaches had the thoughts of
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actually putting the players on the fieldand coaching them what they think it should
players should be. So the scoutswould do all the footwork, all of
their work, and they would bringit back and hand it to the head
coach and the position coaches and say, hey, this is what we accumulated.
What do you like Now? That'swhen the coaches step in. Now.
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The owner and coaches are always beenbig on the first round, but
in the NFL, the scouts frommaybe the third round own does most of
the drafting. The good teams,and I say the good teams like the
Stillers and the Ugly Green team inthe East. They have great scout income
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binds, and they have great becausethey can easily rebuild because they know their
blueprint. The Cowboys have had problemsbecause they don't really have a blueprint.
You know, we have never beenable to say besides offensive lineman, been
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able to draft the position maybe offensiveline and wide. Receive them draft the
draft and know what you're looking for, like the Stillers three four linebackers.
They're the master yep, they arethe master defensive lineman. Philadelphia will go
get you one all day, everyday. Here's just certain teams you can
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lock up and say they know whatthis looked like. The Bears, I
don't know now, but the Bearlinebacker, they can pick him in the
sleep. They can pick him inthey sleep. And so when you're dealing
with scouts that are doing most ofthe footwork and the GM is doing most
of the footwork, I'm talking abouta true GM. Missus Jones. He
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knows I love him, but he'snot a true GM. His son is.
His son is more of that GMnow. But you have to go
out and live this this world.And it's only a few teams. I
think that that that does that stilldoes that. The Cowboys used to be
number one at them distillers, theGiants when I was coming up, these
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were the teams that you could notmess around with. The forty nine ers.
They knew what their system required andthey could go out and get those
flare You're right, though, yousee that now more and more position guys
throughout the NFL. With with withthat, I mean, you're right,
the amount of homework that they dobecause the amount of money that's invested,
so they are going, like yousaid, from down to the nitty gritties,
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of cutting through and getting all thatdone. And it's amazing. Especially
they said the amount of money thatthey're putting in, that's an investment.
And I think that's why with withwhat seven rounds in the NFL, of
why so, yeah, yes,we really have to do our extra homework
because of there's only a few thatreally fit into this this mold of what
we need. So right, they'regonna do their their legwork. But like
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you said, it was a littlebit different when you were playing. There
were more rounds, so it wasn'tpact. They didn't have the numbers like
they do now, the analytics andvideo so but you know, baseball,
I don't remember any of them doingthat stuff. It was just somebody's there.
They talked to you. You talkedto agents, you know, to
start calling and say hey, youknow there's a chance you could get drafted
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this and that, and then theytalked with other than that, we didn't
really have any kind of formal interviewsother than maybe a like a color chart
where you can see, you know, zero to ten, pick colors,
and that's what I finally realized thatI was color blind. I couldn't get
past number four. So it wasone of those. I looked and luckily
I only had hit the white ball. But that was really all the interaction
we really had. And then phonecall and draft draft day, and you
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figure out now, I think it'sspread over a couple of days of doing
it. You know, the firstround is always everything's aired right now,
all the drafts, all sports,everything's aired. But other than that,
it was just a phone call.You know, hey, you got drafted,
Okay. Everything. The thing aboutit, though, I understood baseball
a little bit better because y'all hadso many leagues. Even even even when
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y'all were kids, it was y'allhad a team, B team. I
knew they had different names. I'mjust being simple. Y'all had A,
B and C players, and itnever stopped. Even in college, y'all
had A, B and C players, and these scouts I always was watching
from afar, whereas in the NFL. In the NFL, they never stopped.
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They never started looking at us untilwe got in college. Some of
you guys were good enough that y'allwere looked at it high school. So
people knew that my I had unclesuncles that played h baseball for different teams
in different even back, and thisis thirty years ago. So baseball has
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always had some type of system inplace, whereas football, Like I say,
when you get into twelfth grade andyou get into college, it wasn't
a such thing as a super freshmanbecause you were gonna get red shirted and
you weren't gonna play a lot.So the scouts didn't really get to see
you into your sophomore year if youare an impact player, because you had
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to sit on that pine. Andthen when you became a junior. Now
unless you were elite in which thatwas far and few between. When I
was coming through you, they didn'tsee you. So when they got a
chance to get with you and seeyou, they had to put their homework.
They had to start doing their homework. And the smart teams, which
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the Cowboys and the Schillers were wellahead of the game back then. They
were they were dispatching guys. Yougot the southeast region, you lap over
into this region going up up north. You know, you got the North,
and they would lap over you andthey would double check each other's work,
you know. And where the playerswas at that time was in the
South and then the northeast. That'swhere the players were presumed to be that.
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We know, players come from everywhere, but back in the day in
the south and in the north,and then you know in the northeast,
that's where they presume most of theplayers was, so, you know,
and that's how it went. Andso the smarter teams like the Cowboys,
they had five and six and sevenand eight scouts. Well, other teams
would maybe have two or three scoutsscanning in the country and they knew that's
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and you're writing some of those wouldoverlap it. And you talk about how
you know, how you know,he said, social media and film and
everything. Now they can find guysall over the place. You know.
Now you're finding guys in Australia playingin Australia, you know, rugg you
know Australia's football. You got guysfrom all over the place. And it's
amazing how global this has become onall sports really, but especially I mean
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football, because you always think footballis in American sport, but I mean,
it's it's gone global. Now.They've talked about wanting to move team,
which is a whole nother you knowtalk, but moving teams to Europe
and everything else. But I meanit's and it's it's tough because of right.
You know. And when we wereplaying high school, you said eighteen
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you could get drafted or twenty onein college or your junior year or whatever
came first. So but as afootball player, you just you still had
to go for another three forty years. You couldn't at eighteen. Yeah,
you couldn't be ready, you know, going to the NFL. You're never
going to see that. So andit's it's a hard So that mentality of
right, maybe that weeded out alot more guys that were playing football eighteen.
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Gosh, I don't know if Icould do this for another four years.
And wait, right, I'm sureyou played with guys that were that
way as opposed to so now youcan be a junior and get drafted.
Uh, it's all about maturity andand and I wasn't mature, man,
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It's amazing. I went all theway into my uh senior year and uh
the end of my junior year.Yeah, the beginning of my senior year.
That's when the US vailpiped up,and uh, they were drafting guys,
and they had guys that fell upunder their you know, if you
fell into a certain area this teamhad, like Tampa Bay had most of
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Florida, you know, the BirminghamStatue had all of Alabama and a little
bit of Georgia. So uh,just depending on you know that, and
you were the automatic pick for them. They didn't have to pick you.
You fell up under their the area. So you you were there, guy,
And that's how I went to wentout up at the Tampa Bay.
I went to Washington first, gotreleased, made it to their last cut,
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and then I went went back touh to uh the Tampa Bay Bandits,
and I met Marty. I can'tthink of coach Marty's uh. I
don't know if that's first name oflast name, but I can't, you
know. But anyway, he wasthe first guy that just talked to me
hard. I mean it's like,you know, I'm in practice, having
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fun, jack and around, andhe just pulled me to the side.
He said, man, you know, I called the people at Washington and
he said, do you do youreally want to make my team? The
Tampa Bay banner said yeah, coach, I'll like you know me, okay,
yeah, cool? All right,you know, he said, quite
quit you know, messing around,man, He said, you didn't.
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You didn't get released because you wasn'tgood enough. You got released because you
jacked around. They trying to winsuper Bowls, in which they had just
they won a super Bowl that followingthe year. If I got released,
you could have been on the superBowl winning team and you jacking around,
playing around. Is you gonna evertake anything serious? And it kind of
shook me, you know, becausenobody never came at me from that point
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of view, you know, anduh, and it changed who I was
and kind of changed a lot ofthe things I did when it came to
I was good when I was competing, you know, I went against the
guy I was down for, butgetting myself ready mentally and from all that
different, I wasn't mature. Iwas young. I was. I was
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one,but I was mature more. You probably
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way more mature at that age whenit came to your sport than I was.
And so but guys now they takethis thing so serious, you know.
You you know, a kid canbe seventeen and had a mindset that,
hey, you know, he's ready, you know, and he's doing
everything possible for that. Now youstill had a guy that, you know,
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be a little bit out of shape. I have a little bumping grind
right here, but I man,I would about to change. Hey,
right, I think some of thatis, like I said, a lot
of us are immature at that age. We don't know anything, especially even
back then. M Yeah, butyou're right the way things are now,
everything's so laser focused at such ayoung age. These guys are they're basically
machines bred to to do that.But I'm sure there are a lot of
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guys that just faded because of theburnout that they're that they're forced into.
I mean, heck, look wherewe live. Football is king here.
That's all it is everywhere you go. So I mean it's you know,
watching that seeing that. I'm surethere are some great athletes that will never
hear of because of that mentality rightthere. It's almost like there was you
were talking about, Yeah, sofar on one side, and now these
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guys are so far on the other. Maybe they're somewhere in the middle or
they can figure it out, butyou know, only time will tell where
they can be. A kid.Yeah, my kid went to the University
of Texas. Uh, he stoppedbecause he had one too many concussions.
And but he had he would havehad a shot, had been a pro
running bag. And uh, Ithink he had the right mentality, you
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know, he was. He wasa good kid, gottish degree in business
communication. Was always a level headedkid. Love football, but he also
knew how to have fun, youknow, not not not like his pop,
not over the overboard, you know, gotta have the extra beer,
you know, gotta you know,run the girls, gotta you know,
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uh, jumping the wrong car.You know. He was that guy that
you know, gonna have one onegirlfriend. Uh, wasn't gonna drink,
you know, just just the rightkid for the job. But like I
said, he was that physical thingof the you know. And so I
tell people like this here man,when it comes to the NFL especial,
(25:15):
when you're talking about being a toptwo pick, a first or second rounder,
the money they spend, uh youand I'll use this kid from Georgia.
Uh look, Jalen Carter, thiskid, you know how but this
(25:37):
kid has been in was horrific.You know, a couple of deaths racing
a car. Uh, couple ofpeople got you know, you know,
not no longer with us. Thiskid is still ranked in some of the
rankings, ESPN ranked number five.Maybe he's a top ten pick. Do
(25:59):
you know how good he has tobe to have went through what he's went
through and still possibly be a topten pick. How good he is,
But the immaturity he's shown, hecould have been the first player picked easily,
or the second player picked, evenwith these quarterbacks that everybody like.
(26:22):
So the money they spend the guysthat they're trying to put is the face
of the enfranchise. I can't imagineit, man, even now that I
know this, Even now that Isee this and talking to you and the
other guys that the Dubed network ofall of us were great athletes, great
(26:45):
performers, you know, and andand I still say that some of these
cats that are coming out of howultra talented they are, and the money
that the NFL is spending to investigate, especially for your first and second round
pick players, the money that they'reputting in, the time that they're putting
in, man, and still maynot hit right. But I'm just giving
(27:07):
you a guy who's could have beena top pick, but just through his
immaturity, he didn't fall far.You know, I know it's a difference
between first round first player pick thenmaybe the tenth of level player pick,
but you're still a first round pick, you know. So it's it's money
being spent, it's time being invested. It's just it's just what team that's
(27:33):
willing to get on the table foryou, what guy had guys believed in
me. Hen, when I gotto the Cowboys, I had a couple
of coaches, you know, becauseI went to a team the Cowboys that
did not like fat guys. Fatguys were off the table. They was
like red listed, you know,when you get the red by your name
that means do not touch. Sowhen you got over two hundred and eighty
(27:56):
pounds, the Cowboys started putting littlewarning signs up there. So can you
imagine a guy three hundred forty Ohyeah, they had on me, and
they took a chance. Yeah,they took a chance. And that's and
that's good, Like you said,just that's the opportunity that you were given.
And you know you're able to talkabout it and see. So it'll
be interesting to see where these guyswhere this this thing plays out. Um,
(28:18):
you know, it just it getscut down to the nitty gritty,
like you said, the amount ofmoney, and you have all the projections
and everything else, but at theend of the day, it just comes
down to what what they need,what's what's best available. So you know
this these next weeks and a fewweeks even the undrafted guys and be interesting
to see where this all plays out. So um, but you know,
(28:38):
what are you? What are youwhat? And let's get a little more
specific. Man, the cowboys,in my opinion, need need offensive linement
and uh. And the guys thatare in the first round, they're not
gonna be there. The the eliteguys, the guys that you can depend
on the walk in there and startare not gonna be there, uh for
(29:02):
us. So we're looking at thetight So tight end would be our se
second option. And I like thisDarnelle Washington kid out of Georgia as our
second option. Uh as a firstround pick, but they got him projected
in the second round. Hide inthe second round. And then the running
back, the kid Bejan Robinson.That's not my guy, you know.
(29:23):
I like the kid at Bama Gibbs. I like him a lot. He's
a playmaker, he's very explosive,he's kind of around the the Tony Pollard
uh ilk, but I think he'sfaster than Tony. Uh, Tony have
the advantage for his experience. Butthose are the guys that I like.
And then, uh, it's oneother tackle. Let me look him up
(29:45):
here. Uh that some guys insidetold me about. Uh he's a kid
from m Where where are you?I can't find him? But he Uh
he's a kid from uh South DakotaState somewhere. He ain't got no teeth
in front. I wish hockey player. Hey, I don't know what do
(30:08):
you, bro, But Cody,how you pronounced this m a u cuch
southing malch or mouch? Yeah,cord in mouse North Dakota State. He's
an offensive tackle. He's six fivethree h two North Dakota State. I
wish I could show you a pictureof this kid. I may have a
(30:30):
picture of him. Because guys thatI like. It seems like the Cowboys
never get these guys. They neverwant these guys, but they always turn
out to be hell of a playersdown the road. I mean, what
y'all don't know what y'all need?Do you know what the Eagles need or
do you have a wish list forthe Eagles. I don't know, hih
(30:56):
what what come on? Na?Yeah? Yeah? You going on?
Really what they need? I've beendealing with so much stuff else going on.
They talk about Beijon and uh,either the either Jalen Carter, what
y'all need Beijon for? Y'all gotrunning that? That's just what. I
don't know where they trade out.I don't That's why I'd be intrigued us
to see what happens. And thenthis this week with the dress. Hey,
(31:18):
I'm gonna trying to show you,to show you Cody see that guy?
Yeah yeah, Cody, Baby,that's coldy. We can get him
in the second round. Baby,we can get him and say, hey,
you know what, because Kevin,listen to me, the difference between
the Cowboys the Philadelphia Eagles, ifthe forty nine ers is we don't have
(31:51):
a big game hunter. Y'all haveseveral big game hunters, guys that can
go out and make plays at theright moments, galvanize their teams at the
right moment. We don't have thatguy and our guys enough of them.
(32:16):
And until the Cowboys learned that maybewe can get a tight end and this
Washington kid that's big and physical.He's six seven two eighty two seventy runs
by the four six forty. Buthe's physical. He's mean. This this
this kid, Cody, he's physical, he's mean. You started with ask
(32:39):
you with Tyler Smith. We needguys that when the crunch time come,
we can get physical, we canget mean. And if our quarterback we
don't. Our quarterback is much likey'all quarterback. But y'all quarterback Jalen has
learned the va value of the ball. The bigger the game, the more
(33:02):
value of the ball. He doesn'tturn that ball over. And even when
he was running down and hit iton his leg, that was that That
was the most freakish thing I eversaw, because that was the difference in
that game against those guys. Andso as much as I love Dak and
want him to prosper, if hedon't learn the value of the ball,
(33:29):
especially in the bigger games, you'respending your wheels because he who has the
ball the most, lasts the longestand plays the next day. And and
that's just the bottom line. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens
here with trades and everything else.I'm sure you and Zay will be talking
(33:50):
about it for sure. Yeah,definitely. Man. My My thing is
my brother is. I love talkingto you, man, and I love
just conversing with other guys from othersports man. And I know I probably
didn't get to answer the questions youwanted to answer that whole that got close,
but man, it's always absolutely toyou. I said, Well,
(34:13):
we'll definitely follow this up again andjust see. But like I said,
we always like the perspective of itand everything else, and people get a
chance to listen to you and Zayand let me tell you something on the
Dumb Network. They said, we'llrevisit it and we'll see what happens after
this draft and uh after the draft, I mean like two or three days
after the draft. Yeah, absolutely, look up and we'll just do it.
(34:34):
Do a we'll do your show andmy eyes show as one perfect,
make it perfect. But I appreciateyou jumping on Nate and talking about this
and we'll uh they said, it'llbe fun to see what happens here because
it gets down the crunch time andeverything. So but I appreciate Nate.
Yes, sex, brother man,We'll be in touch. Yes, thank
you. All right,
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