May 1, 2023 • 16 mins
BIN's Bri Wood talks to the CEO of the Perception Institute and former President of the Louisville Urban League, Sadiqa Reynolds, about Breonna Taylor's murder, recent mass shootings in Louisville, and the Perception Institute, where she "leads a consortium of researchers and strategists to implement mind science solutions to reduce inequities affecting people of marginalized races, genders, ethnicities, and other groups."
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(00:00):
Eastern Time own network. Y'all FridaysThanks med Sadiqua Reynolds is the newest president
(00:06):
of the Perception Institute and the formerpresident of the Louisville Urban League in Kentucky.
The Black Information Networks Bree Wood talksto Sidiqua about the Perception Institute and
what it was like running the LouisvilleUrban League at the time of Brianna Taylor's
murder, as well as the recentmass shootings in her city. Bree,
I'm Bree Wood with the Black InformationNetwork and we are joined today by Sidiqua
(00:30):
Reynolds, recently named one of USAToday's Women of the Year. She is
my special guest. She's an attorneyand a former judge who is the newest
president of the Perception Institute, knownfor its research on bias and discrimination and
they're groundbreaking twenty sixteen good Hair study. Before joining Perception Institute, Siddiqua service
president and CEO of the Louisville UrbanLeague in Kentucky, where her appointment made
(00:54):
her the first woman to hold thistitle in the affiliates one hundred two year
history. A tireless advocate activist,she is on the frontline fighting for several
causes that directly affect the black community, and she's helping to pave the way
for black women everywhere, and Iam honored to speak with her today.
Sadika, thank you so much forjoining us, Thank you for having me,
(01:15):
Bree, I am really honored tobe here. Thank you so much.
You're welcome, and it's a pleasureto speak with you. I'll get
right into it. What exactly,first off, is the Perception Institute.
Just to summarize that, the PerceptionInstitute is an action oriented think tank,
and you've described as well. ButI like for people to understand that we
are thinkers, we are researchers,we are strategists, we are advocates,
(01:36):
and we are also action oriented.So when we come in to do trainings
or facilitations, we leave strategies behindfor people to be able to better align
their behavior with their good intentions.So that's us in a nutshell, lots
of research, but it's a wonderfulit's wonderful, wonderful work. It's I
(01:57):
see it as sort of moving meout of community a little bit and more
into the rooms with policy makers andpeople who are thinking about how to change
the world or in some cases peoplewho aren't thinking about it at all,
but certainly have the power to doit and should be thinking in different ways.
So that's who we are trying toinfluence. Wonderful And as president,
(02:19):
what are your responsibilities there when itcomes to that, Well, you know,
just any CEO, you're trying tomake sure the business is sustainable.
You want to make sure you areable to reach as many people as you
can, especially if you believe thatyou have, you know, the tools
that can help save the democracy.You know, our country is certainly under
attack if you have things that youbelieve will help end racism and sexism and
(02:44):
all the other isms that are happeningin our country if you think about the
way even immigrants have been discriminated against. So I mean, knowing that you
have this information that if you couldget it out more, you can help
people, you want to do that. So it's my job to try to
grow the organization. I engage ina lot of fundraising, just finding different
(03:06):
resources, whether those are through foundationsor whether it's you know, letting a
company know that we could use theycould use our tools, hopefully getting into
those organizations before they get sued.Sometimes it happens that you'll see corporations being
sued for discrimination, and we cango in and provide training to the team,
to the staff, to the management. You see so many d EI
(03:29):
workers, for example, across thecountry who really don't have the tools they
need to be able to be successfulin the organizations that have hired them.
They don't have the staff, theydon't have the budgets, they don't have
the power. They're really just theresort of check the box. So what
we like to do where we canis go in and give those d EI
(03:51):
workers the power, the education,and the tools that they need to be
able to successfully manage some of theburden on their shows. And because you
know, if they can be successful, then these companies can be changed and
people will have different experiences at workand at home and you know, everywhere
else. And then one thing thatwe've done that I'm really really proud of.
(04:13):
There are lots of things that thePerception Institute has done and I'm proud
of, but one of the thingsthat's some work we've done with the New
York State Court system. So wewent in and did a jury video,
a video that every perspective juror willview as they come through the New York
State unified court system. So whetherthey serve on a jury or not,
(04:35):
they will at least have this thisorientation into you know, what is stereotype,
read, implicit bias, all thosethings. So I'm really really proud
of that work, and I'm excitedthat the New York State Court system,
you know, trusted us to dothat work. And the feedback that we're
getting from people who are touched bythe video, it's just it's really remarkable.
(04:58):
So those are the kinds of thoseare the kinds of things that we're
working on that some of it.So we know that you are at the
former CEO of the Louisville affiliate ofthe National Urban League, being in that
position when Brianna Taylor was tragically killedby police there, what do you remember
as a leader of a civil rightsorganization at that time? What was going
through your mind at that moment whenyou heard about her death. Oh,
(05:20):
I remember everything about it, tobe honest with you. The day that
she died, the day that theykilled her, the police actually called me.
I was at the office with mychief operations officer and my chief financial
officer. Because it also happened tobe the day, March thirteenth, that
I had asked my staff not tocome into the office because there was this
(05:42):
virus and we didn't know how itcould be contained. How could we possibly
be in the building together until thethree of us. Quite frankly, it's
looking back on it, we wererisking our lives sitting in the room together
trying to figure out, you know, how do we use these grants?
How can we can we allow peopleto work from home? I mean,
we were in unchartered waters, unprecedentedtimes, right, We didn't know if
(06:06):
people can you work from home?Then when you're trying to serve the community,
and how do you answer is barelyyou can. Some people can,
but everybody can't. Somebody's got toalways be in and you got to be
out engaged. And we were,but we were really trying to figure it
out. And while we were there, the phone rang and I turn it
on speaker and it was our localMetro police department letting me know that a
(06:30):
black woman had been killed when herboyfriend they were trying to serve a warrant
on the home. And what thepolice told me at the time was that
he was a drug dealer, andwhen they went in, after announcing themselves,
they went in and that the boyfriendfired and they fired back, and
that the girlfriend was killed in thecrossfire. And so I was led to
(06:53):
believe that the man they were lookingfor was the man she was with,
and blah blah blah. Obviously weknow everything said it was a lie.
But I asked them if there wasbody camera footage that we could review,
and they said no, that therewas no body camera footage at all.
And we had a debate about thatbecause the mayor, I thought, had
signed an ordinance that said, youknow, everybody had to wear body camera
(07:17):
footage, and there response to mewas that because the detectives were undercover,
they did not have to have onbody camera footage. So it was just
a pass from the beginning. Andso I remember, I remember it very
very well, vividly. And theother thing I remember, there's a brother
in our community that just does notget enough credit, Eddie Woods. He
(07:41):
runs a program called No More RedRed Dots. And I called Eddie right
after I got off the phone withthe police, and I said, Eddie,
you know they said they'd killed somebody. Said, yeah, I know,
there's something wrong. I think theywere at the wrong house, you
know, and we got into sothen I called the police back. So
we had a week of back andforth, and then two weeks of back
and forth, and the city,our city erupted when we heard the nine
(08:05):
one one call between her boyfriend,Kenny, Brianna Taylor's boyfriend and police.
Because no one who believes the policeare there calls the police, you know,
all for help. And so that'swhen our city really went crazy.
And yeah, it is tied inwith George Floyd and Ahmad Aarbury because we
(08:28):
were all at a boiling point.Yeah, but it was it was Kenny's
voice on that nine one one callfor me. It was knowing that our
police department understood that he didn't know. It was knowing that our prosecutors understood
that he was calling police and thatthey had deprived him. First of all,
they killed his girlfriend in front ofhim, the love of his life,
(08:50):
but then they threatened to attack himwith dogs. Then they lock him
up. Then they deprived him ofthe right to go to the funeral.
He has to listen to the funeralon the phone, so gets no closure.
And I've had the opportunity to spendtime with Kitty. And I know
they should be paying forever for hismental health treatment whenever he wants it.
(09:11):
You know, we don't always dowhat we should do in our community,
but he should whenever he feels likeit. They should have to pay for
the trauma therapy that he, Iknow, will need for the rest of
this I don't know how you erasethat, because I can barely erase the
(09:33):
videos that I've seen of him almostbeing attacked by the dog. So it's
gonna take a while and he may, not, as you said, ever
get over that. And it's trulyjust tragic. And unfortunately we are in
the aftermath again of another mass shootingin your neck of the woods, this
time at the bank in Louisville,Kentucky, and left five people dead and
(09:54):
several others injured. And I knowthat you knew someone who perished in that
shooting. And after that there wasanother shooting that happened in a parking Louisville,
leaving two people dead and six injured. So what do you make of
this violence that's happening right now?And what is the current mood in Louisville?
How are people handling these tragedies.And I'm so sorry for your loss.
(10:16):
By the way, I want togive my condolences because it's just it's
horrible. It's horrible. Actually needtwo people who were who were shot in
the bank, who were killed inthe bank. So and then I also
knew the two people who were killedat kroger Man hate crime a few years
back. That listen, Louisville,we are looking at our politicians like are
(10:41):
they're stupid or something? I mean, we do not understand why. You
know, our police are exhausted,right they say they and they did.
They responded very quickly. They didwhat they had to do. But the
law does not allow them to destroyweapons that they confiscates. So imagine this,
(11:01):
someone goes into a bank and killsfive people. The weapon is taken
and it needs to be auctioned offbecause in Kentucky you can't destroy it.
Wow, do you hear me?So this weapon will be used again for
whatever reason, and some maybe inKentucky again, maybe in Illinois next time,
(11:24):
maybe in Indiana. There is alevel of insanity that we have got
to stop in Kentucky. We justhave to and I know we need gun
reform all across this country, right, and so talking about what we have
here. We need our police departmentto be able to to destroy the on
average seven firearms that they find,you know, that they confiscate in a
(11:50):
day. Those things need to bedestroyed. We need to talk about why
regular Joe Schmo citizens need assault rifles. I don't. I don't think they
need them. I just don't.So we need to talk about that,
um and we need the laws changed. We need a weight period, we
need a waiting period. This manwas able to go out get a gun,
get it pretty quickly. We can't. We can't do that. You
(12:13):
know. They've got to be somechanges. And then we need the gun
lovers we do. We need thegun lovers at the table to help us
figure out, you know, whatallows you to still have the right to
bear arms and also allows my childto go to school and come home every
day safely? What? What?What? What? What's the mental ground
(12:33):
here? There has to be something. I refuse to believe that we cannot
figure out ways to get this right. I know that we can and we
should. We have to. Wehad to going back to the beginning of
the conversation, that's going to takecommon ground, which is that your institute
specializes in. This is when youneed to think tanks, because you've got
(12:54):
two opposing positions here that need tocome up with a solution so that,
as you stated, every he canget home at night, especially your children.
That's that's that's exactly right. AndI'll tell you I was close enough
to the bank to hear the gunshots, all the gun shots, to hear
the sirens, and really to notunderstand where exactly the shooter was. I
(13:15):
mean, I knew there was ashooter. I got a text telling me
after I heard the gunshots, there'san active shooter. Don't go outside,
But I didn't understand, Well,what do you mean don't go outside?
Where? Outside? Like outside mydoor, outside outside or outside across you
know. It's just it was avery confusing hour for a lot of us
who were nearby, and obviously adevastating day for so many And my heart
(13:39):
goes out to the families who,you know, the wife who kissed her
husband goodbye and he never came home. The the new officer who just went
through training, who you know isstruggling to have his life returned to normal.
All of the all of the peoplewho lost children. There was a
woman who just moved to Louisville forthis wonderful new job and she's gone left
(14:01):
to grandchildren. So it's it's reallytragic. And now what we have is
another memorial right on the street withcrosses and flowers, and how many more
of those do we need? Andcan I tell you breathe. I hope
that because of who was taken fromus that there are I hope that the
(14:30):
politician who have historically not cared todo anything will do something this time.
And it really puts things into perspectivethat you need to live every day to
the fullest. And so I wouldjust like to thank you so much for
your time today and everything that we'vediscussed a wealth of information. How can
listeners learn more about you personally andabout the Perception Institute. If they want
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to know more well for the PerceptionInstitute, please visit our website which is
under construction, but there's enough informationand Perception dot org. You can also
send us an email. You cancontact us to get more information, especially
if you like for us to cometo your organization or your corporation. We
would love to do that. Um, you know, just you can google
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us and see some of the testsand the research that we've done. And
then as far as me, Idon't know how to tell you to find
out any more about me. Idon't even know why you don't do social
media. Yeah yeah, yeah,yeah. Oh I'm on social oh yeah,
I'm on all of it. I'mon Facebook, I'm on Instagram,
and I'm on Twitter. And it'sweird because on Instagram, I might be
(15:35):
having one kind of day. OnTwitter, I might be in a huge
argument with somebody, and on Facebook, I'm just like, you know,
just living my best life. Soyou'll say, who is this woman?
But it's all sides, like whatI what I am? Really? Um,
listen, I'm authentic. I justI am who I am, and
I put it out there. Ithas worked for me all these years,
(15:56):
and I'm just very thankful that Godhas decided that I can be of purpose,
you know, on this journey.So yep, you can find on
social media, okay, okay,and follow the Perception Institute on Instagram at
the Perception Institute. Also on Facebook, the Perception Institute and Twitter at Perception
I n st again USA Today's oneof USA Today's Women of the Year.
(16:21):
Miss Diepla Reynolds, It's visits anhonor. Thank you for joining us on
the Black Information Network. Thank youso much. Thanks Bree. We thank
you for joining us on the BlackPerspective and look forward to continuing to have
needed conversations for the Black community nextweek on Mike Island on the Black
Eastern Time own network. Y'all FridaysThanks med Sadiqua Reynolds is the newest president
(00:06):
of the Perception Institute and the formerpresident of the Louisville Urban League in Kentucky.
The Black Information Networks Bree Wood talksto Sidiqua about the Perception Institute and
what it was like running the LouisvilleUrban League at the time of Brianna Taylor's
murder, as well as the recentmass shootings in her city. Bree,
I'm Bree Wood with the Black InformationNetwork and we are joined today by Sidiqua
(00:30):
Reynolds, recently named one of USAToday's Women of the Year. She is
my special guest. She's an attorneyand a former judge who is the newest
president of the Perception Institute, knownfor its research on bias and discrimination and
they're groundbreaking twenty sixteen good Hair study. Before joining Perception Institute, Siddiqua service
president and CEO of the Louisville UrbanLeague in Kentucky, where her appointment made
(00:54):
her the first woman to hold thistitle in the affiliates one hundred two year
history. A tireless advocate activist,she is on the frontline fighting for several
causes that directly affect the black community, and she's helping to pave the way
for black women everywhere, and Iam honored to speak with her today.
Sadika, thank you so much forjoining us, Thank you for having me,
(01:15):
Bree, I am really honored tobe here. Thank you so much.
You're welcome, and it's a pleasureto speak with you. I'll get
right into it. What exactly,first off, is the Perception Institute.
Just to summarize that, the PerceptionInstitute is an action oriented think tank,
and you've described as well. ButI like for people to understand that we
are thinkers, we are researchers,we are strategists, we are advocates,
(01:36):
and we are also action oriented.So when we come in to do trainings
or facilitations, we leave strategies behindfor people to be able to better align
their behavior with their good intentions.So that's us in a nutshell, lots
of research, but it's a wonderfulit's wonderful, wonderful work. It's I
(01:57):
see it as sort of moving meout of community a little bit and more
into the rooms with policy makers andpeople who are thinking about how to change
the world or in some cases peoplewho aren't thinking about it at all,
but certainly have the power to doit and should be thinking in different ways.
So that's who we are trying toinfluence. Wonderful And as president,
(02:19):
what are your responsibilities there when itcomes to that, Well, you know,
just any CEO, you're trying tomake sure the business is sustainable.
You want to make sure you areable to reach as many people as you
can, especially if you believe thatyou have, you know, the tools
that can help save the democracy.You know, our country is certainly under
attack if you have things that youbelieve will help end racism and sexism and
(02:44):
all the other isms that are happeningin our country if you think about the
way even immigrants have been discriminated against. So I mean, knowing that you
have this information that if you couldget it out more, you can help
people, you want to do that. So it's my job to try to
grow the organization. I engage ina lot of fundraising, just finding different
(03:06):
resources, whether those are through foundationsor whether it's you know, letting a
company know that we could use theycould use our tools, hopefully getting into
those organizations before they get sued.Sometimes it happens that you'll see corporations being
sued for discrimination, and we cango in and provide training to the team,
to the staff, to the management. You see so many d EI
(03:29):
workers, for example, across thecountry who really don't have the tools they
need to be able to be successfulin the organizations that have hired them.
They don't have the staff, theydon't have the budgets, they don't have
the power. They're really just theresort of check the box. So what
we like to do where we canis go in and give those d EI
(03:51):
workers the power, the education,and the tools that they need to be
able to successfully manage some of theburden on their shows. And because you
know, if they can be successful, then these companies can be changed and
people will have different experiences at workand at home and you know, everywhere
else. And then one thing thatwe've done that I'm really really proud of.
(04:13):
There are lots of things that thePerception Institute has done and I'm proud
of, but one of the thingsthat's some work we've done with the New
York State Court system. So wewent in and did a jury video,
a video that every perspective juror willview as they come through the New York
State unified court system. So whetherthey serve on a jury or not,
(04:35):
they will at least have this thisorientation into you know, what is stereotype,
read, implicit bias, all thosethings. So I'm really really proud
of that work, and I'm excitedthat the New York State Court system,
you know, trusted us to dothat work. And the feedback that we're
getting from people who are touched bythe video, it's just it's really remarkable.
(04:58):
So those are the kinds of thoseare the kinds of things that we're
working on that some of it.So we know that you are at the
former CEO of the Louisville affiliate ofthe National Urban League, being in that
position when Brianna Taylor was tragically killedby police there, what do you remember
as a leader of a civil rightsorganization at that time? What was going
through your mind at that moment whenyou heard about her death. Oh,
(05:20):
I remember everything about it, tobe honest with you. The day that
she died, the day that theykilled her, the police actually called me.
I was at the office with mychief operations officer and my chief financial
officer. Because it also happened tobe the day, March thirteenth, that
I had asked my staff not tocome into the office because there was this
(05:42):
virus and we didn't know how itcould be contained. How could we possibly
be in the building together until thethree of us. Quite frankly, it's
looking back on it, we wererisking our lives sitting in the room together
trying to figure out, you know, how do we use these grants?
How can we can we allow peopleto work from home? I mean,
we were in unchartered waters, unprecedentedtimes, right, We didn't know if
(06:06):
people can you work from home?Then when you're trying to serve the community,
and how do you answer is barelyyou can. Some people can,
but everybody can't. Somebody's got toalways be in and you got to be
out engaged. And we were,but we were really trying to figure it
out. And while we were there, the phone rang and I turn it
on speaker and it was our localMetro police department letting me know that a
(06:30):
black woman had been killed when herboyfriend they were trying to serve a warrant
on the home. And what thepolice told me at the time was that
he was a drug dealer, andwhen they went in, after announcing themselves,
they went in and that the boyfriendfired and they fired back, and
that the girlfriend was killed in thecrossfire. And so I was led to
(06:53):
believe that the man they were lookingfor was the man she was with,
and blah blah blah. Obviously weknow everything said it was a lie.
But I asked them if there wasbody camera footage that we could review,
and they said no, that therewas no body camera footage at all.
And we had a debate about thatbecause the mayor, I thought, had
signed an ordinance that said, youknow, everybody had to wear body camera
(07:17):
footage, and there response to mewas that because the detectives were undercover,
they did not have to have onbody camera footage. So it was just
a pass from the beginning. Andso I remember, I remember it very
very well, vividly. And theother thing I remember, there's a brother
in our community that just does notget enough credit, Eddie Woods. He
(07:41):
runs a program called No More RedRed Dots. And I called Eddie right
after I got off the phone withthe police, and I said, Eddie,
you know they said they'd killed somebody. Said, yeah, I know,
there's something wrong. I think theywere at the wrong house, you
know, and we got into sothen I called the police back. So
we had a week of back andforth, and then two weeks of back
and forth, and the city,our city erupted when we heard the nine
(08:05):
one one call between her boyfriend,Kenny, Brianna Taylor's boyfriend and police.
Because no one who believes the policeare there calls the police, you know,
all for help. And so that'swhen our city really went crazy.
And yeah, it is tied inwith George Floyd and Ahmad Aarbury because we
(08:28):
were all at a boiling point.Yeah, but it was it was Kenny's
voice on that nine one one callfor me. It was knowing that our
police department understood that he didn't know. It was knowing that our prosecutors understood
that he was calling police and thatthey had deprived him. First of all,
they killed his girlfriend in front ofhim, the love of his life,
(08:50):
but then they threatened to attack himwith dogs. Then they lock him
up. Then they deprived him ofthe right to go to the funeral.
He has to listen to the funeralon the phone, so gets no closure.
And I've had the opportunity to spendtime with Kitty. And I know
they should be paying forever for hismental health treatment whenever he wants it.
(09:11):
You know, we don't always dowhat we should do in our community,
but he should whenever he feels likeit. They should have to pay for
the trauma therapy that he, Iknow, will need for the rest of
this I don't know how you erasethat, because I can barely erase the
(09:33):
videos that I've seen of him almostbeing attacked by the dog. So it's
gonna take a while and he may, not, as you said, ever
get over that. And it's trulyjust tragic. And unfortunately we are in
the aftermath again of another mass shootingin your neck of the woods, this
time at the bank in Louisville,Kentucky, and left five people dead and
(09:54):
several others injured. And I knowthat you knew someone who perished in that
shooting. And after that there wasanother shooting that happened in a parking Louisville,
leaving two people dead and six injured. So what do you make of
this violence that's happening right now?And what is the current mood in Louisville?
How are people handling these tragedies.And I'm so sorry for your loss.
(10:16):
By the way, I want togive my condolences because it's just it's
horrible. It's horrible. Actually needtwo people who were who were shot in
the bank, who were killed inthe bank. So and then I also
knew the two people who were killedat kroger Man hate crime a few years
back. That listen, Louisville,we are looking at our politicians like are
(10:41):
they're stupid or something? I mean, we do not understand why. You
know, our police are exhausted,right they say they and they did.
They responded very quickly. They didwhat they had to do. But the
law does not allow them to destroyweapons that they confiscates. So imagine this,
(11:01):
someone goes into a bank and killsfive people. The weapon is taken
and it needs to be auctioned offbecause in Kentucky you can't destroy it.
Wow, do you hear me?So this weapon will be used again for
whatever reason, and some maybe inKentucky again, maybe in Illinois next time,
(11:24):
maybe in Indiana. There is alevel of insanity that we have got
to stop in Kentucky. We justhave to and I know we need gun
reform all across this country, right, and so talking about what we have
here. We need our police departmentto be able to to destroy the on
average seven firearms that they find,you know, that they confiscate in a
(11:50):
day. Those things need to bedestroyed. We need to talk about why
regular Joe Schmo citizens need assault rifles. I don't. I don't think they
need them. I just don't.So we need to talk about that,
um and we need the laws changed. We need a weight period, we
need a waiting period. This manwas able to go out get a gun,
get it pretty quickly. We can't. We can't do that. You
(12:13):
know. They've got to be somechanges. And then we need the gun
lovers we do. We need thegun lovers at the table to help us
figure out, you know, whatallows you to still have the right to
bear arms and also allows my childto go to school and come home every
day safely? What? What?What? What? What's the mental ground
(12:33):
here? There has to be something. I refuse to believe that we cannot
figure out ways to get this right. I know that we can and we
should. We have to. Wehad to going back to the beginning of
the conversation, that's going to takecommon ground, which is that your institute
specializes in. This is when youneed to think tanks, because you've got
(12:54):
two opposing positions here that need tocome up with a solution so that,
as you stated, every he canget home at night, especially your children.
That's that's that's exactly right. AndI'll tell you I was close enough
to the bank to hear the gunshots, all the gun shots, to hear
the sirens, and really to notunderstand where exactly the shooter was. I
(13:15):
mean, I knew there was ashooter. I got a text telling me
after I heard the gunshots, there'san active shooter. Don't go outside,
But I didn't understand, Well,what do you mean don't go outside?
Where? Outside? Like outside mydoor, outside outside or outside across you
know. It's just it was avery confusing hour for a lot of us
who were nearby, and obviously adevastating day for so many And my heart
(13:39):
goes out to the families who,you know, the wife who kissed her
husband goodbye and he never came home. The the new officer who just went
through training, who you know isstruggling to have his life returned to normal.
All of the all of the peoplewho lost children. There was a
woman who just moved to Louisville forthis wonderful new job and she's gone left
(14:01):
to grandchildren. So it's it's reallytragic. And now what we have is
another memorial right on the street withcrosses and flowers, and how many more
of those do we need? Andcan I tell you breathe. I hope
that because of who was taken fromus that there are I hope that the
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politician who have historically not cared todo anything will do something this time.
And it really puts things into perspectivethat you need to live every day to
the fullest. And so I wouldjust like to thank you so much for
your time today and everything that we'vediscussed a wealth of information. How can
listeners learn more about you personally andabout the Perception Institute. If they want
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to know more well for the PerceptionInstitute, please visit our website which is
under construction, but there's enough informationand Perception dot org. You can also
send us an email. You cancontact us to get more information, especially
if you like for us to cometo your organization or your corporation. We
would love to do that. Um, you know, just you can google
(15:13):
us and see some of the testsand the research that we've done. And
then as far as me, Idon't know how to tell you to find
out any more about me. Idon't even know why you don't do social
media. Yeah yeah, yeah,yeah. Oh I'm on social oh yeah,
I'm on all of it. I'mon Facebook, I'm on Instagram,
and I'm on Twitter. And it'sweird because on Instagram, I might be
(15:35):
having one kind of day. OnTwitter, I might be in a huge
argument with somebody, and on Facebook, I'm just like, you know,
just living my best life. Soyou'll say, who is this woman?
But it's all sides, like whatI what I am? Really? Um,
listen, I'm authentic. I justI am who I am, and
I put it out there. Ithas worked for me all these years,
(15:56):
and I'm just very thankful that Godhas decided that I can be of purpose,
you know, on this journey.So yep, you can find on
social media, okay, okay,and follow the Perception Institute on Instagram at
the Perception Institute. Also on Facebook, the Perception Institute and Twitter at Perception
I n st again USA Today's oneof USA Today's Women of the Year.
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Miss Diepla Reynolds, It's visits anhonor. Thank you for joining us on
the Black Information Network. Thank youso much. Thanks Bree. We thank
you for joining us on the BlackPerspective and look forward to continuing to have
needed conversations for the Black community nextweek on Mike Island on the Black
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