March 7, 2025 • 59 mins
This week on the Black Perspective, Andrea Coleman brings us the conclusion of her two-part series on a powerful documentary by Stephanie Calabrese, which exposes racism in a small Georgia town. Morgyn Wood speaks exclusively with Ezekway Devaux, organizer of the Black-Owned Restaurant Tour (BORT), about how Black-owned restaurants in Baltimore are gaining economic opportunities.
Gracie Award winner Esther Dillard presents another edition of The Color Between the Lines, and Tyrik Wynn sits down for a one-on-one interview with former NFL star and Atlanta Falcons legend Warrick Dunn.
Plus, Doug Davis talks with filmmaker Ramell Ross, who is in the running for the biggest award at the Oscars tonight. And as always, we get insightful commentary from Mo Kelly.
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Gracie Award winner Esther Dillard presents another edition of The Color Between the Lines, and Tyrik Wynn sits down for a one-on-one interview with former NFL star and Atlanta Falcons legend Warrick Dunn.
Plus, Doug Davis talks with filmmaker Ramell Ross, who is in the running for the biggest award at the Oscars tonight. And as always, we get insightful commentary from Mo Kelly.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Sunday, March second, and on today's show, Andrea Coleman
gives us part two of a two part series about
a documentary film chronicling racism and a small Georgia town,
made by Stephanie Calabrez bart Or. Black owned restaurant tour
organizer e Zequay de Vaux spoke to the Black Information
That Works Morgan would exclusively about how black owned restaurants
(00:22):
in Baltimore stand to benefit economically. We get another segment
of the Color between the Lines from Gracie Award winner
Esther Dillard. Tyreek Winn sat down for a one on
one interview with former NFL star and Atlanta Falcons legend
Warwick Dunn. Doug Davis talks to movie director and writer
Ramel Ross, who is up for the biggest award at
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the Oscars tonight. These stories of more are coming your way.
On today's program, Welcome to the Black Perspective. I'm your host,
Mike Island.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Welcome to the Black Perspective, a weekly community affairs program
on the Black Information Network featuring interviews and discussions on
issues important to the Black community.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Good Sunday, everyone, and Welcome to the Black Perspective. The
killing of two black couples in nineteen forty six, known
as the Moore's Ford lynchings, serve as the backdrop of
the film Unspoken. The film chronicles the racist treatment of
black people in the town of Monroe, Georgia. Last week
on The Black Perspective, the film's creator, Stephanie Calibreez spoke
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of the courage it took for her to highlight these
stories that many in her community may want to be
left in the past. This week, Ms Calibreeze takes the
Black Information Networks Andrea Coleman inside the racist killings that
continue to haunt that community today.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
If one very important white person or group of very
important white people say hey, we're done, we're good, it's
not valid, right, It's not the truth. And so I
think it's increasingly more important for people to dig in
to understand our history, right, because that influences the problems
that we still have today in the present.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, and I want you to bring us up to
speed on where everything stands regarding these cases. But one question,
regarding a statement you just made, racism still being in
the country and it being a part of our history.
Our history is being a race from the history books
in many states right now, when looking at stories like this,
how important is it that they be included in the
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telling of the American story.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
It's critical, It's critical. I mean our Americans. We have
people who live in our country today who lived during
the time of segregation, like that's present day. Many of
the people who integrated schools are still alive today. So
these stories are very much a part of our present
and so that trauma that people have experienced is still
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you know, in our society today. People are living with
that trauma and they're living with, you know, the challenges
of things like school teachers were not paid. School teachers
are not pay the same amount as the white teachers.
I saw this right in our city council many minutes. So,
you know, black businesses, right didn't have an opportunity to
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achieve the same financial success as white businesses. They weren't supported.
Black people in our community couldn't get everyday jobs, right.
They could be janitors, they could work in the cafeteria
at the school, they could work at the chicken plant,
you know, very manual labor jobs. And so people who
had to live through this are still alive today. So
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it's very much a present day challenge. And you know,
it's something that if you understand our history, it helps
you understand our present and then it helps you shape
your actions. Right, this is why it's important to have
a diverse employee base. This is why it's important to
have diversity on your boards, you know, for organizations and
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for businesses. So it's extremely relevant.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, that's very very good. Bring us up to date
on these cases. I mean, we're talking history, but these
are on resolves, so in a way, there are still
very much present day issues that need to be attended to,
or can be attended to if people choose. So, So
where are we regarding the lynchings? And I wonder just
if I can give and pay homage to the four
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people who were dead. They have names, and they were people.
George W. Dorsey, who was a World War Two veteran
and worked as a sharecropper on a farm in north
central Georgia, May Murray Dorsey, George's wife, Roger Malcolm, who
had been imprisoned in Walton County for stabbing a white employer.
And then Dorothy Malcolm, who was his wife and was
seven months pregnant at the time of her death. If
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you can just briefly maybe share the story behind their
killings and then where their case stands today.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I'll try to give you the cliff notes, yes, which
is a little bit painful to do, but basically, Roger
Malcolm was jailed for getting in a fight with a
white farmer. It was rumored that the white farmer was
having an affair with his wife. So Roger and this farmer,
Barnett Hester, fought, Roger stabbed Barnett Hester. Barnett Hester went
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to the hospital. There's a news article in the Walton Tribune,
you know, sort of validating this, and Roger Malcolm was
sent to jail. Lloy Harrison got bail to release Roger
from jail. This is jail you know, in Monroe, in
Walton County, and Dorothy, George Dorsey, and May Murray were
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in the car with Lloy to go bail Roger Malcolm
out of jail. So they got him out of jail.
The four of them and Lloy Harrison were in the car.
Lloyd was driving the car. They took the long way
back to the farm that day, and it was this
sort of sharecropper time, so you know, obviously they knew
each other. They had, you know, lived very close to
each other. They were very familiar with each other. And
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as they approached the Morsford Bridge, which was a dirt
road a wooden bridge at that time, the car was
stopped by a mob of white men and the four
victims were taken from the vehicle. They were taken by
the side of the Appleife River and they were shot
to death. And that's essentially the story the tragedy.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
And no one was ever held accountable for those shootings.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
No, no, There was an FBI investigation for several months,
there was a grand jury hearing, but nobody was convicted
for the crime. Anthony Pitch, who's the author of the
last lynching, worked with Joe Bell to basically create a
case to get these grand jury testimony documents unsealed, and
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that process took many years. Initially, the documents could not
be found, but Anthony Pitch found the documents and Joe
Bell reported that to the court system to let them
know that the documents had been found and the documents
were to remain sealed. Anthony and Joe Bell petitioned to
unseal the grand jury testimony documents. That petition was actually granted.
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It was appealed by the US government and then it
went before a group of US District Court judges and
it was to remain sealed again. So the alternative now
is there is a Civil Rights Cold Case Review Board
that was established and the Civil Rights Cold Case Act
was actually signed off by President Trump to become a
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law in his first presidency. A Cold Case Review Board
commission was put together to review the civil rights cold
cases to determine if documents, you know, should be made
available to the public. And so Joe Bell Attorney submitted
these documents or potential review and so it's in consideration
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right now and hopefully we'll have an update this year. Well,
my fingers are crossed.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
That's powerful. That's powerful. Will you do an update with
the film if it warrants.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I don't know if I'll do an update with the film,
but one hundred percent there'll be information on the film website.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Now, there was another linding, actually this one quite recent.
Nineteen eighty one, a twenty three year old Army private
Lynn McKinley Jackson. Its body was found the wooded area
outside Monroe, and he was believed to be involved with
a white lady. You cover all of this in the film,
which is very powerful. Where is his case today? Has
there been any kind of activity on it at all?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
This case was reopened several years ago when I was
working on the film, and I had reached out to
our Walton County Sheriff's department to do an open records
request for information to see what I could learn. I
was informed that the case had been reopened, so records
couldn't be provided to me. I did put a request
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in to receive records from the Georgia Bureau Investigation and
was able to receive those documents. So much of my
research was from those documents, and I've also received some
federal documents as well that helped me sort of research
the case. It is an open case. I did meet
with the officer who's over the case. I shared the
film with him. I shared a very detailed document of
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all of my research, information that I found and thoughts
I had, especially in reviewing the death inquest. It was
a very thick document with a lot of testimony to determine,
you know, if it was a suicide or not. Yeah,
and so in reviewing those documents, I sort of had,
you know, my own thoughts of things that seem questionable
(09:19):
to me. So I submitted all of my information to
the officer. And as I understand, it is a cold case,
and it's still an open case, so I know they
are open to receiving any information that people might have
about it, So, you know, I have.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Some hope for that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
But clearly, if the case has been reopened, it's not
likely that it was a suicide.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, that's interesting, and I don't know if we've explained
that for our listeners. The reference to suicide is that
he had gotten into an accident earlier that day. I
had gone to his sister's house and then went into town,
and after that was not seen again until his body
was found hanging from a tree in that wooded area.
And then people then began saying he was so distraught
over having wrecked his car that he hanged himself. His
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family on the film, of course, saying they don't think
that was as tragic an event to warrant that kind
of reaction from him. How important is it, Stephanie for
people who look like you to tell these stories?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh on gosh, Well, first you got to take it
in right, like I think you know, obviously, I can't
speak for all white people, but I think that it's
difficult for anyone. If you've got time to learn new
things and to study new things, you really kind of
have to push yourself to dig into the stuff that's
not so fun to listen to. And so I think
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I just really would encourage white people to really get
to know your history. It's super important, and also to
connect with people in your own community, to really understand
racial injustice, to get comfortable with it, to watch films
about it, to listen to podcasts about it. There's a
whole reference area of resources on my website that are
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great places to start. I think it's critical because we
don't have that perspective right. It's easy for us to
say there's no racism in this country. I don't feel it,
I don't see it. Well, of course you don't. So yeah,
it's critical. It's so important, and honestly, you know, as
difficult as it is to really take in that truth
and then to start to question yourself of you know,
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where did I make my own mistakes? Where didn't I
listen well, where did I just brush off a comment
that maybe one of my black friends made. I was thinking, well,
you know, is that really true? Or are you sure
you're not imagining that?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
You know?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So, I think it's important to question yourself to get
really comfortable with those moments marry me where you didn't
speak up, or maybe you heard a joke and you
didn't say something. It's like, own that in yourself is
kind of step one. So absolutely I encourage every single
person who looks like me to do that.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I love that. And where can our listeners view Unspoken
right now?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Educational institutions and public live who have a Canopy subscription,
So if you've got a library card or student ID,
you can watch Unspoken on Canopy on video on demand.
It's also currently broadcasting on GPB here in Georgia. I
don't have the air dates, but as I get them,
I add them to my website, so you can be
on the lookout for that. And then video on demand distribution.
(12:19):
I'm hoping that comes together this year. But people can
stay updated on the film on the film website, which
is just Unspoken dot film. There's an email list they
can subscribe and so anytime I have information about new
access to the film, I share it there.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
It's very good. In your website, you've mentioned it a
couple of times. What is it?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
My personal website is Stephanie Calabres dot com. Very getting
you spell Calabrese c A L A B R E
S E. And we mentioned former Georgia State Legislator Tyrone Brooks.
We can mention that his re enactment of the nineteen
forty six mores Ford lynching does take place every April.
And just a little background on him. He has been
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a long time civil rights or here, not only in
the Atlanta area, but throughout Georgia, and so you can
probably also find information. I don't know where. Do you
know where we could possibly find information regarding that enactment.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
There is a Facebook page, shares a Facebook page. Okay,
very good, Stephanie. We just can't thank you enough for
your work and for your heart. And I want to
end with one last question, and that is how did
this experience change you?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Gosh, dramatically. It's completely changed my perspective the way I
think about engaging with people, not just in my community
but everywhere. It has helped me truly value diversity in
my friendship circles, in my businesses and people I work with.
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It's critical. It's changed how I think about things. It's
changed how I vote. It's you know, I don't just
think about myself. I think about what other people need
in my community. Yeah, it's changed me very deeply, and
I hope the film changes other people too. Any small moment,
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any response, any question, any comment that someone can have
that combats racism and these little one off conversations that
happen every day is so critical, and so I hope
the film inspires people to do that.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, do you have a favorite moment in the film.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
You know, I really had a hard time with the
ending of the film. I was very disappointed in the ending.
I had high hopes that there would have been a
unanimous yes. And I won't reveal the end of the film,
so I was very upset by the film. I really
didn't want it to have a not so happy ending.
And so I think the ending of the film, while
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it was troubling and really disappointing, it was also necessary.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
So I would have.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
To say that the story continues, Yes, and the need
for attention to it as well. Yeah, thank you so
much for joining us. It's been delightful. Yeah, and thank
you for your work. Yeah, I hope you're encouraged to
pick up the name story that comes at me, catch
your Beth a little bit by that you'll you'll pick
it up with courage and know that we are waiting
to see it and view it and grow through it.
So thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Thanks Andrea. You can learn more about the film and
the more's Ford lynchings online at Unspoken dot Film. In
conjunction with the CI Double A, the Black Owned Restaurant
Tour or BORT is going on in Baltimore. BART organizer
zek Way Devo spoke to the Black Information Networks and
Morgan would exclusively about how black owned restaurants in Baltimore
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stand the benefit economically and how BORT also created a
community among black restaurant owners in the charm City. BARD
features sixteen black owned restaurants, from small mom and pop
shops to Michelin Star Dining.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Joining me now on the Black Information Network is Zeke
Way Devot from the Black Owned Restaurant Tour or BORT.
It's actually happening right now, the same week.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
As CI Double A. E Zeeway, thank you so much.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
For joining me. My pleasure, Morgan, So tell me.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
More about Board or the Black Owned Restaurant Tour. For
those who don't know, the.
Speaker 8 (16:06):
Black Owned Restaurant Tour is something that we started about
four years ago. Now this is the fourth annual annual
tour and it started really with UH in conjunction with
trying to find creative ways to ensure that local, specifically
black owned businesses benefit from the economic impact that CIBA
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brings to a city. So we didn't want folks to
come to Baltimore all of this great business, ciuble A
being a historically black college and university tournament, and the
black businesses missed the impact. So to raise awareness and
to make sure that there's some intentional support of black
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owned businesses, Board was created. The idea that I actually
had for a while and didn't have the proper support
really to implement it. So ci Doublea provided that support
for the first Board tour to happen, and the first
boat tour was actually just bought weeks and it was
seven restaurants and we did one a day. And now
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here we are three years later, four years later with
sixteen different restaurants on the Board tour and several more
that had requested to be a part of the tour.
But we just you know, couldn't see everybody, and the
now nine day tour that starts the Saturday before Ciba.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
That's absolutely amazing. When I travel, that's the first thing
I think about. It's not you know, the parties or
this or that. It's like what am I going to
eat when I get there. So the fact that you
set that up for people who are coming in town
for ci double A and also making sure that that,
like you said, the impact goes into that black pocket
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is absolutely amazing. Talk about some of the challenges that
you have faced with.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
That, Well, you know, one of the challenges is that
you just can't visit everybody, and so you try to
visit as many restaurants as you can. We wanted to
keep it in a decent proximity of the ciuble A
Games and host hotels. So sometimes people are wondering, well,
(18:29):
why do certain you know, restaurants get selected. It's mainly
about proximity. Yes, yes, yep, that is a fact. So
that's how they're selected. The challenge is that, you know,
we can't visit everybody, but we try to get them
to give them shout outs here and there. And what
we have noticed is that the restaurants who are not
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on the tour, even uh though they're not on the tour,
still get the benefit of raising people's awareness. Oh that
this is something that I should be more conscious of,
you know, local black owned businesses. So we found that
people are starting to look for black owned restaurants in particular,
even ones that are not on the list, and an
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attempt to support the overall concept and not just those
specific restaurants.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
That's amazing.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Yeah, And speaking of benefits, similar the unknown benefits for
then as obvious benefits is. You know, we don't have
a little Italy. You know, we don't have a Greek town,
we don't have a China town. So the opportunity to
learn from one another and to make the learning curve
less deep when owning a restaurant is not typically there
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for us. You know, we don't have this concentrated area
of a city where we can learn one another from
one another's restaurants. You know, most black owned restaurants are
in destination locations, you know, and many are in practically isolation.
So this board towards not just hey stop here, stopped there.
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I've created you know, basically a group chat with these
restaurant owners and they exchange everything from quality accountants that
they use to where do they get their plates, you know,
or who runs their social media page. So it's just
really a blessing upon blessing. You know, when the restaurants
or I ordered you know, too many linens, can anybody
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use some? You know, there's a smaller cafe style restaurants
can take advantage of the surplus that comes sometimes from
the larger restaurants. So it's this sharing of resources and
vendors that really speak to the value of creating a
network amongst these black restaurants where they collaborate over competition.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Amazing. That's that's really cool that you've created quite the
community aspect of that. And you know, if it's anything
black people need, we need us. So oh yeah, what
type of feedback have you received from the restaurants and
also those who have frequented the restaurants, those patrons who
have gone and said, oh my god, that was good.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Yeah. Well just last night, you know, we had our
fit stop on the board tour already last night Yabo
Kitchen and people were just I've never been here. This
is such a nice spot. Ya Bo is kind of
unique because we go a little bit more into the
community for Yabo Kitchen, and so people get a chance
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to venture around a little bit into the Charles Village area,
uh and get eat some really good food and get
some really great hospitality. So a lot of the feedback
I heard was, of course how good the food is,
but the great service that we received, because a lot
of times, you know, we see this picture painting on
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social media that uh uh, you know, we missed the
mark on service, and of course that's in every industry.
You have some of those, but that is definitely not
the norm amongst our restaurants. You know, those are the
people who missed the mark, just like in every industry.
So yeah, people really enjoy it, you know, fifth stop already.
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Our first day was Saturday and we went to Chicks,
Freemium Chicken and Fort McHenry which puts raisin canes chickens
to shamee. You got to check them out. Then we
went to Black Swan for dinner that you love it.
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It's a party. It's a party at black Swan. So
that was the first day, Saturday, February twenty second, and
then the next day, Sunday, February twenty third, we went
to Swell for lunch, which is a nice think. They
categorized it as a Bohemian style cafe, you know, very plectic,
very earthy, the type of spot where you may catch
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some live music or poetry reading. Had a good time there,
and then later on that evening we went to Rooted
Rotisserie again you know, out in the community over by
Holland's Market and Rooted. It was really made you know,
famous by the food critic. Food blogger Keith Lee found
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himself a Rooted and gave it his very extremely rare
marked at nine point five. Yeah, yeah, so he was.
So they got an influx of attention and ended up
on the tam Rend Hall Show and everything else this
past year. But they're still very humble, great people, great food.
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And then just yesterday Monday, as I mentioned, we did Yebo,
which is a afrofusion I believe it. How they identified
their cuisine Chef Sammy, who did Milk and Honey play
with Yeah, Sef Sammy, So he sold Milking Honey and
opened up Yabo here. He wanted to get back to
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being in the kitchen, and he was in the kitchen
himself last night. It was really good to see him
and people loved it. Tonight was going to a very
probably most exclusive restaurant on the tour, which is Magdalena
in the Ivy Hotel. So the Brown family, Eddie Brown
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and his wife own the Ivy Hotel and the restaurant
in it, which is Magdalena, which is a beautiful, exclusive
boutique hotel. Who received the double what is the double
Michelin Star Award, the only one to receive it in
the state, very high end place. Again knocking out the
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misnomers that you know, we only have certain kind of spots,
so everything from chicken spots to find you know, white
linen dining.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
You said, you said, look, you said the magic words.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Okay, yeah, forget this specific. But it's a very rare,
extremely rare award given to only the best of the best.
So uh, they've achieved that. And whish wish you were
here this evening that you can enjoy it, but we
have will be the rest of the week. Tomorrow is Wednesday,
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will be at Soul Street. Fole Street has an interesting
story because Soul Street is a collaboration of two restaurants
that were on the tour the first three years, but
individually weren't being successful, and so they collaborated literally through
the board group chat and decided that they were going
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to let go of the independent concepts and do a
joint venture called Foul Street. So tomorrow it's going to
be an interesting visit, you know, almost like a proud
pop us being the creative board. I'm excited, you know,
to see these brothers collabse and do their own restaurant.
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And that's tomorrow right there in north Little Italy, right
across from the Reginald west Lewis Museum. So excited about that.
And then Thursday, we have two stops we're going to
do and Pinata Lady, and then right after that do
Proper Cuisine, get right around the corner from each other.
Then Friday, we're going to do two restaurants again. We'll
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do Poppy Cuisine, which is very popular spot, and then
we'll do uh for like a lunch, and then we'll
do Bar Vegan, which is the newest of the restaurant
to the area.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Yeah, a Baltimore, our native. Whole time, we've been waiting
for the whole Vegans to come.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
This homecoming, that's right, we finally come home. Excited about
that that's that's Friday for dinner, Happy hour dinner, and
then the last today Saturday, we're going to visit three restaurants.
We're gonna do te Vaults for breakfast March first, Saturday morning,
and then we'll do Cross by Amanda for lunch, which
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is right there in the Inner Harbor around a lot
of the activities in the day parties that Powerplant lives.
And then Saturday night we'll do dinner at Unity Restaurant
in the Mount Vernon area. And then March second will
be the last day of the tour Sunday, March second,
and we'll close out with Jerk at Night, which is
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very popular more so in the DC area, but get
new to Baltimore. We're going to support them. And then
we'll close out with a Happy Hour at the Garden
Rooftop restaurant, which is pretty popular as well.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
That's amazing. You guys have quite the lineup a zek way.
I just I'm like, you're right. The problem now is
how do you pick?
Speaker 8 (28:10):
So you don't pick Morgan, you go to them all.
You gotta go to them all every day. That's what
I'm doing.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
So and then the hashtag is Taste the difference. Absolutely
love that. Oh my gosh, So tell me before I
let you go, how can we continue to keep up
with the work that you're doing, because I know it
doesn't it doesn't just stop March second.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
When when Bord.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Week stops, you know, sou or excuse me, bored when
board stops? I know, it doesn't just start stop March second.
So what is a zek Way and Bord doing beyond
the c I double a beyond March second.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Wellek Way and my my lovely company Events for Good
People of the last twenty years will continue to make
a conservative effort to support minority owned businesses, black owned
businesses and you can follow me on Instagram at e
the Number four GP Events for Good People. E the
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Number four GP to find out what we have next.
We have some fun fashion color themed events coming up
this spring. We have my annual Summer Black Birthday Bash
coming up in July, and we also do the Baltimore
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met Gala. We have a big event that we do
at Preakness. This is Freakness is one hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
so Preakness this May is going to be insane, So
we hope to see everyone out May seventeenth for Afropre.
You can also find information about that on my page
(29:56):
soon as well. But yeah, keep it simple too with
some weekly happy hours. Speaking of Pink Pinky Cole, I'm
going to be doing bar Vegan Fridays with her, just
to have some consistency for folks who need something to
do every week. And the special events will continue as well.
(30:20):
Just follow you four GP events for good people and
you know, find out what we're doing next.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Absolutely look forward to it. And it sounds like you've
got some other events that I might want to come
around and cover, so.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
We'll keep in touch.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
Definitely looking forward.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
To it, all right, Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
As e g Way devout from Black Owned Restaurant Tour,
I'm Morgan with it on the Black Information Network.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Thank you Morgan.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
For more information, go to visit Baltimore dot org. Black
Information News anchor Tyreek Win sat down for a one
on one interview with former NFL star and Atlanta Falcons
Legend Work Done Done Now, The first black limited partner
of the Atlanta Falcons, shared what this historic milestone means
to him and the future of black ownership in the NFL.
(31:05):
He also opened up about his charity work through Work
Done Charities, which has helped countless families achieve homeownership.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
Hey guys, it's Star Reek went on your home for
Black News first the Black Information Network. We are broadcasting
with an NFL legend. We got v Warren done online
with us right now.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
How are you, man?
Speaker 9 (31:23):
How's things going?
Speaker 5 (31:25):
All is well, bro? I'm just hustling, man, I'm just
hustling every day. I'm hustling.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
I'm trying to do it, you know, I'm just trying
to I stay business. So it's all good.
Speaker 9 (31:33):
Oh yeah, of course. So let's speaking of saying busy.
We got something amazing going on. You're part of the
massive Super Bowl fan fest in Atlanta, bringing fans together
for an unforgettable experience. So what excites you the most
about events like these and what does it mean to
connect with the Atlanta community in this way?
Speaker 10 (31:50):
Well, I think the most important thing about opportunities events
like this is really you get to engage people.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
You get to meet new ends, learn.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
More about them, or there's an opportunities that people hadn't
seen me that may want.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
To engage me, get a picture and those things. So
it's really it's just an opportunity.
Speaker 10 (32:11):
To really see people, meet people, but also learn more
about individuals.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
I think, you know, to come together.
Speaker 10 (32:19):
That's how you build relationships and connectivity with individuals and
communities when you come together. So this is just a
great opportunity to really engage individuals, families and you know kids,
they tell you you hear all kinds of stories. You
learn a lot about people, what they think and so forth,
and you hear the good and the bad.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
When it comes to the football. Also, it's always fun.
Speaker 9 (32:42):
Oh yeah, of course, speaking of football, You've had an
incredible career in the NFL, but now you're making history
in a different way as the first black limited partner
of the Atlanta Falcons. Can you tell me what that
milestone means to you personally and what impact do you
hope it has on future black ownership in the NFL.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
Well, I've been a partner since nine and I'm thankful
for that. Again, that's, you know, because of a great
owner like Mista Blank giving me an opportunity to do
something like that. You know, to be an example for
other individuals, you know, they have to also learn and
understand the journey to get there. I really focus more
(33:22):
on not living for today, but for the next twenty
thirty years of your life, and you got to plan
and sacrifice some things. And we have to teach each
other those little things how we can continue moving forward
to being the best that we can be and put
ourselves in position to be able to invest in the
team and become part of the ownership group. So that's
(33:46):
a journey that you can't just think about today. You know,
you got to think about the future and how now
I can be an example for the future generation that
this opportunity is there. It's just you have to do
your part and hopefully people take that and learn that
you do have opportunity to advance yourself if you do
(34:06):
those little things to be consistent and productive in life.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
So I'm thankful.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
And then before we close it out, I want to
talk about your charity work. Right, So you have your
amazing charity work done charities, you've helped so many families
achieve homeownership. Can you tell me what inspired you to
focus on this cause and can you share a story
of a family that you really touched through your work.
Speaker 10 (34:31):
Well, I got started on this journey because of my
own personal tragedy in my life.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
My mom's dream of home ownership. And I've been.
Speaker 10 (34:40):
Able to help assist single parent families over the last
twenty seven on twenty eight years coming up first time
home ownership and that's give them five thousand dollars down
payment and fully furnishing at home. So we've been able
to really touch two hundred and thirty six single parents
families in sixteen states, thirty cities, impacting them because home
(35:06):
ownership is it's important. It create stability in kids, they
perform better and much more confident. So to help a
family move forward and create that connectivity I think.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Is important in our society. But we also have to.
Speaker 10 (35:23):
Give continue to push them, to give them a little
bit more with support services that we do it to
charity now with our SCOPE program overall brand of health
and wellness where we talk about health is your wealth,
physical working out, bimetts, eating healthy, growing vegetables and all
that stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Financial health count of your future.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
If you invest in yourself, we will invest in you
with healthy sort of savings account and focus on spending
on needs versus once we all have wants in the world,
but what do we need to live a good life?
And then the mental health capacity Betty's Hope where we
try to create that balance for families when they're navigating,
you like, because today the way kids respond adversity, it's
(36:10):
tough and I do have We also help families with
scholarships where we give our five thousand dollars scholarships to
individuals that are in college and need some assistance, but
they're also involved in giving back in their community too.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
There's some community engagement.
Speaker 10 (36:27):
So we bring all those support services to the families
that we help. And you know, one family that really
sticks out is that the mother.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
We helped her get into a home, a habitat home.
Speaker 10 (36:43):
She sold at home and bought another home, and her
son bought his first home. So now when we talk
about generational wealth, yeah, that's what you're working on, you're
passing it down.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
But she was an example and he stayed open to
doing that.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
And you know, for me, parents are important in kids' lives,
having both, but you know, a mother and a father
engaged this little kid, this guy, little man, he's a
man now, took those steps and follow you know, the
example that his mom's sitting.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
And that's what you want.
Speaker 10 (37:22):
And now we're thinking about the next generation and next
generation because when you think about it home ownership, most
people think that you.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Know, you build generations off because I own a home.
Speaker 10 (37:34):
No, it takes generations to actually build that wealth equity,
and you don't realize that equity into the home until
you sell it. So the reality of it is you
sit on it, you keep it in the family, and
once you sell it, then you realize that equity that
the family. Uh, the family has. But you know you're
(37:54):
impacting that generation that that you're part of in securing
having something stable.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
But you got to think about the future because.
Speaker 10 (38:02):
Anything can happen in life where we need some assistance
and we got to continue.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
To rely on each other. So I can go on
and on and on about it. I don't want to
do that, but uh, it's you know, it's it is.
Speaker 10 (38:13):
It is great to have a parent that are solda
home bought another home, but then you have a kid
their first time, that is that's the time.
Speaker 9 (38:23):
Yeah, that's beautiful man. Definitely love to hear it. And
kudos to you on everything you got going on. I
know you're gonna continue to do the good work, so
definitely kudos to you and congratulation everything you have going on.
And I appreciate you so much for your time. Uh,
thank thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
It was a pleasure. No, I appreciate it. Man. I'm
gonna keep I'm gonna keep going. They called me the
road run. I'm gonna go be deep. I'm gonna keep going.
I appreciate that. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
Well, thank you so much, mister Warrig done. Like I said,
best of luck to you and all the future things
that you will have going on. And guys, thank you
so much for tuning in. It is your home for
black news first the Black Information Network. Catch you guys
next time. I'm Tyreek Wayne.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Thanks Tyreek. It's a disease that nearly ninety nine percent
of the population in the US can contract, and it
can be very severe. It can cause blindness. In this
week's The Color Between the Lines, the Black Information Networks,
Esther Dillard shares a story of one woman who contracted
it and her mission to warn others with a campaign
(39:21):
called Thrive at fifty plus.
Speaker 11 (39:23):
This week on The Color between the Lines, and I.
Speaker 12 (39:26):
Felt a bump in my lower left quadrant of my
back and I'm like ow.
Speaker 11 (39:31):
We talk about shingles. What it was like for one
black woman and what doctors say about your risk of
contracting it. I'm Esther Dillard chatting with writers, authors and
experts who offer an added perspective for listeners. This is
the Color between the Lines.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
In this edition of The Color Between Lines.
Speaker 11 (40:00):
Were not talking to an author, but a woman who
likely could write a book about her journey with a
disease that doctor say doesn't discriminate. It's called shingles, and
it can strike really anyone who has had the chicken
pox as a kid. That's because once you have it,
doctor say, the disease lies dormant in your spine. Cassandra
told me on the bin. Although she knew the name shingles,
(40:20):
she didn't know what she was dealing with when a
bump suddenly showed up on her back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 12 (40:26):
And I felt a bump in my lower left quadrant
of my back, and I'm like ouch, you know now,
I assumed it was a spider bite. Didn't see a spider,
you know, din had never been been by spider, but
couldn't think of any other reason why something would be
back there hurting like that. The next day, this pain
(40:46):
was just continuing to escalate, and at some point in
the day. I'm like, okay, I think I'm gonna need
some medical attention. But I remind you, this was the
weekend before Labor Day, on a Sunday, so I got
I went through the rigamaroo with my insurance and got
a chance to get in touch with a doctor via teleconference.
So it was a virtual decision that day. The doctor
(41:11):
asked me two questions. Well, he asked one question and
then it led me to where we are today, he says.
After I explained to him what I thought was going on,
he says, well, did you have the chicken pox as
a child. I'm like, I absolutely did, me and everybody
in my house old. He says, well, it seems to me,
or it sounds to me, that what you probably have
(41:33):
or may have, is the shingles. It caught me on guard.
Might shingles me. I'm like, well, okay, at that point, now,
I was sixty years old, but my knowledge about shingles
was not where it should have been.
Speaker 11 (41:49):
And she's not alone.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
Well, shingles is actually the same virus that causes chicken pox.
It's a virus called Vericella Zauster.
Speaker 11 (41:56):
African American doctor Bio Curry Winchel is the medical direct
for Saint Mary's Urgent Care Group in Reno, Nevada. She's
also the director of the Beyond Clinical Walls podcast.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
Adults over the age of fifty have are likely to
already have it dormant in their body, and so at
any point in time there can be a reactivation. And
that's why this conversation is so important, Because having a
conversation with your doctor, with your pharmacist about your own
personal risk or vaccination is important. And when we have
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these types of discussions, people can actually understand more about
the disease, because sometimes it can feel really hard to
think about what is shingles? What is this? Is this
something that can affect me? But when we have these
type of conversations, it allows people to say, oh, now
I know a little bit more, and now I can
go and talk to my doctor or my pharmacist and
(42:52):
find out my personal risk.
Speaker 11 (42:54):
Cassandra wasn't so lucky.
Speaker 12 (42:56):
And within a couple of hours that one bomb turned
into a cluster of bumps. I'm like, oh wow. But
from the moment I felt the pain, that initial pain,
it didn't cease for months. In a short period of time,
the bumps. That bump went to multiple bumps to raise bumps,
and they started turning into blisters. I try my best
(43:19):
to help paint a picture because this was an experience
I would not wish upon anyone, and that is why
I'm so thankful to GSK and as well to Thrive
at fifty plus the platform on Facebook to help get
the message out there that you have. You can empower yourself.
Speaker 11 (43:36):
When you say pain escalating up and up? Are you
talking a burning pain, a stinging pain, a spreading pain?
Can you describe it?
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Miss Ester.
Speaker 12 (43:47):
I'm not one who's short on words often, but it
has been one of the hardest things for me to
do is explain to people. To simply say beyond it
hurts so bad. It hurts so bad is an understatement.
The location of it added to the frustration of this
process and this experience, and it was I could say
(44:09):
the pain. I could say it was this. I could
say sometimes the people it felt like a mountain lion
was locked into me and just was not gonna let go.
I've not ever been bitten by a mountain lion, but
I'm fairly certain that's not pleasant. You ever hit your
elbow in the wrong spot and it hurts so bad.
How about that pain?
Speaker 5 (44:29):
Or not for four months straight?
Speaker 12 (44:31):
Or you ever banged that knee on the corner of
the table right there at the middle of that patilla. Oh,
and it makes you weak?
Speaker 5 (44:37):
That pain.
Speaker 12 (44:39):
I mean, it's I don't want to say short of childbirth,
but the pain, it is one of the most severe
pains I've had in my at this point, I'm sixty four.
In my sixty four year history of living. To this day,
it is not nearly as severe as it was from
September to December. But I have not had that complete
(45:05):
relief from it at all. And I don't want the
people listening to us to think that that is how
it is for everyone. I can't speak for everyone, but
Cassandra's experience was this. I had no knowledge that it
was going to be like this, but my experience put
me in a category of what they call PHN.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
It's called post herpadic neuralgia or PHIN, and it's affecting
the nerves and so that the nerve distribution in your
body isn't just where that rash is. A lot of
people aren't aware that it actually is expanding throughout your body.
So I'll give an example. You've got your spine and
then you've got nerves that are going through So if
you have a ration in one area, but those nerves
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are going through the body, that pain can go all
along that entire nerve. And so that's why that can
last several weeks to months. And that's why it's also
important because if you can have a conversation about your
risk factors and really have you know, awareness, it allows
you to have that power to decide what you would
(46:09):
like to do.
Speaker 11 (46:09):
Are there any special risk factors for African Americans or
African American women when it comes to shingles?
Speaker 6 (46:17):
I love this question. So this is my So there's
a myth that black individuals are not at the same
risk for shingles, and that isn't true. One thing that
I think is really helpful to kind of highlight over
ninety nine percent of individuals are likely to have been
exposed or have shingles already in their body. But let's
(46:41):
go a little bit further. When we look at race
or black individuals, that's the color of our skin. That
is not our genetics. So the color of my skin
does not make me less likely to develop a disease.
And the problem is with that narrative, there is this
thought that, oh, I have this rash, it can't be
shingles because I've been told because I'm blocked, that I'm
(47:03):
less likely to get it. And then let's couple that
with being a woman and being a black woman. There
are so many different layers that we carry just naturally
where we are supposed to be resilient. We're supposed to
have all of these things that we may not go
in and see the doctor. So that's why this conversation
is important to really uncouple and allow people to know
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that the color of your skin does not reduce your
risk of developing shingles.
Speaker 11 (47:32):
And even though Cassandra says she first contracted shingles in
twenty twenty five years later, she still feels remnants of
its round.
Speaker 12 (47:39):
So to this day, my back has permanent scarring where
my shingles was, and I'm reaching back as I speak
to you, and I can literally touch that area.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Now.
Speaker 12 (47:50):
It's not causing any pain right now, but it's ever present.
Speaker 11 (47:53):
The National Institutes of Health says shingles, also known as
Herpie's sauster, effects about one million people each year. Their
website says the most effective way to prevent shingles is
to get vaccinated, but it's best to talk to your
doctor to find the best path. Both Cassandra and doctor
Bio recommend don't wait until it's too late.
Speaker 6 (48:12):
Shingles is more than a rash, and so if you
have something that you're not sure about and it's there
and it's never been there before, have a conversation, be seen.
Go and talk to your doctor or your pharmacists. And
also another big thing I think is important to know
that people don't realize that they have vercella zoster virus
(48:36):
likely already dormant in their bodies, so that reactivation could
happen at any time. And last, but not least, I
always highlight your health is your most prized possession.
Speaker 12 (48:48):
You know, a lot of times when you hear something
from somebody, even if you don't know them, but if
you feel like they're credible, you might want to listen
a little bit closer to what they're saying. And when
I learned from a Facebook thing from friends and family
and others strangers, is that, Hey, my husband and I've
been sitting on the fence for years about this, but
after we heard your story. We went next week and
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got it or thank you for that, and I appreciate
you sharing that private experience. But I'm on my way,
and you know, and I have been trying to convince
my father and I'm now working hard on trying.
Speaker 5 (49:18):
To do it.
Speaker 9 (49:19):
That brings me joy.
Speaker 12 (49:22):
Now if I had given that I had no choice
in this experience, the fact that I'm able now to
help others to either avoid it advocate for themselves, you know,
because the more you know, the better you grow.
Speaker 11 (49:34):
That's it for this edition of The Color Between the Lines.
You can check out the replant on the Color between
the Lines YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Thank you Esther, and if you'd like more information about
shingles and the Thrive at fifty plus campaign, go to
Thrive at fifty plus on Facebook. Doug Davis has a
very special guest on the show. Tonight is the where
Hollywood pays respect to the finest done film. We at
the Black Information Network are giving our flowers to Doug's
(50:07):
guest movie director and writer Ramel Ross, who is up
for the biggest award at the Oscars.
Speaker 6 (50:12):
Tonight.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Doug take it away.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Hey, thanks Mike, this is Doug Davis and Tonight is
the ninety seventh Academy Awards, an event that honors those
who took part in making some of the best pictures
of the year. And there's a black film that's up
for a Picture of the Year that captures an era
of our history that has never been expressed in this
type of manner. Nicol Boyce is based on the Pulitzer
Prize winning novel by Colston Whitehead and directed and written
(50:36):
and adapted by Georgetown alum African American Ramel Ross. And
he's with us to talk about the movie and the
reasons why critics are going bananas as they say, Welcome
to the bin, brother, Ramel. What led you to take
on this project? What was so special about this book
that made you say I gotta do this.
Speaker 5 (50:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (50:54):
I was fortunate enough to be asked to adapt the
book by company called Plan B and I think it was,
you know, almost one of those meant to be moments,
because you know, I've been making photos in Alabama, Hell County,
Alabama to be specific, for like fifteen years. I've been
filming there for fifteen years, and the opportunity was incredible
(51:21):
because I could sort of elevate my art practice in
my way in which I've been using the camera to
Coulson Whitehead's narrative. It it could take the because the
story is just so powerfully written and rendered. It could
accept the sort of poetic way in which I like
to make images. And it's kind of a match made
(51:42):
in heaven.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
I mean, you know, for someone like myself who's a
little bit older, right, And I'm loving the way your
generation presents stories. It's much different than ours. Explain the
type of cinematic directing that you did with this particular
movie in the.
Speaker 13 (51:59):
Style, yeah, the way that the film is shot. The
audience is experiencing the world of the character as they
are experiencing it. But it's not the kind of point
of view from you know, the GoPro or the action cam.
It's the kind of point of view in which, you know,
we're using long lenses and we're using shallow focus, and
(52:19):
we're using the camera as an extension of consciousness. And
with that you're kind of you kind of give way
as an audience to genuinely and at least conceptually like
seeing and filling the world and the meaning making process
that happens inside another's head. And so there are these
(52:40):
epic banal moments, just adding something to the way in
which we are stuck in our own heads and we've
never seen the world through others' eyes. It's giving us
a closer glimpse to perhaps what it's like to be
in another person's visual field and their visual mini making field.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Right, how did you cultivate that type of ability to
be able to I mean I literally felt that you
were taking a chapter out of history. I felt like
I was there.
Speaker 13 (53:11):
You know, it comes from taking photography and film very
very very seriously in the in the Alabama South and
trying to figure out, you know, quite literally, like how
we've come to be seen, like how people of color,
black folks specifically are are made, like the production of blackness,
(53:34):
Like the camera is a tool of racism, it's it's
it also is a tool of you know, revelation, but
it can be connected to disseminating the false notion of race.
And I always wondered how how did cinema participate in that?
How did news broadcasts participate in that? How did photo
history organize and disseminate false notions of race? And with that,
(54:01):
it just it's a process that forces you to do
a deep dive and look for strategies to deal with
kind of what the camera embeds in it, which is
everything that's come before. You know, this guy, Victor Bergen
says quite beautifully that the photograph is a psychological event.
It happens in the mind of the person who's viewing
(54:23):
the photograph. So then how do you make an image
that has that touch of when a mother makes a
photo of their kid, or when you're taking a photo
of your parent, that that intimacy like that's been absent
from photohistory typically when images of people of color have
been made primarily by white folks.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah, yeah, you know, what you just mentioned just reminds
me of the first time I saw the movie The
Original Birth of a Nation, and the power behind that
movie and how it, really, in my opinion, cattle halted
the negative racial stereotypes of African Americans that still permeate today.
(55:07):
I didn't know that watermelon was a major cash crop
for us when we were finally released technically from the bondage.
I didn't know that. But if you didn't know that history,
you would think that, you know, we're just some watermelon
eating folks. But they really flipped it they really flipped it.
They flipped economic progress into a negative racial stereotype. And
(55:32):
so you're taking, you know, your cinematic viewpoint of how
stories are depicted, and you're really flipping it man, in
a in a whole. It's it's almost kind of hard
for me to describe, to be quite fair with you,
it's kind of hard for me to put it in words.
I know, when the publicist said, so, what do you think,
I'm like, I don't even know if I have a word.
Speaker 13 (55:53):
You know, Yeah, Well I love I love that you're
expressing it that way, Doug, Like, I really love it
because that's part of the the mission of the film,
which is to like give the viewer and an actual experience,
right like when you're when you're out swimming in the
ocean and you get a swell underwater of a different
water temperature, or a fish comes and breasts against your
(56:17):
leg and you get a jolt. Like these types of
experiences are beyond words. You can describe it to someone,
But the only way someone will know that something is
hot is to fill heat, right, Like that is the
way that the world works. And I think if you
can give someone something that's that's that they can't. They
can barely express because it's so experiential. If you can
(56:39):
do that in the context of someone's life, in the
context of the Dozer school boys' life, then I think
you're doing history in a way that.
Speaker 5 (56:47):
It's relatively fresh.
Speaker 13 (56:48):
It's it's experiential, it's it's something that becomes of the body, right.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Love that love that final words share some sentiments about
the movie, encouraging our listeners to go check it out.
Speaker 13 (56:59):
Yeah, you guys, you guys got to watch it. It's
I think it's beautiful. Art director photography Joe Mulfrey did
incredible work. We have some of the most talented artists
you know working on the project. And I think if
you go with an open mind and open heart and
open eyes, I think you're your encounter something that genuinely
(57:20):
adds to the aesthetic quality of your life.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
Amazing. How can we find more movies that you have directed?
And uh, where can we find you on social media?
And for folks who may want to get in contact
with you, how can we find you?
Speaker 13 (57:33):
Well, my Instagram handle is is just ramel Ross at
remel It's just at ramel Ross. But I've made this
other film, Hell County this morning this evening that you
can stream on Amazon and have a short film on
film a Visions the website, and aside from that, my
website is Ramelross dot com and I have a bunch
of my photos and other art projects on there, so yeah,
(57:54):
check them out if you're interested.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
And you've won a lot of awards too, can you share?
You don't seem like the type of person that just
brags about himself. He seemed very humble man, very centered,
But please share some of the great accolades that you've
accomplished so far.
Speaker 13 (58:09):
I think, I mean we the film have been nominated
for a bunch of best of awards.
Speaker 5 (58:13):
I think I think The.
Speaker 13 (58:16):
New Yorker, the New York Times, and The Atlantic and
Indie Wire said that we were the number one film
of the year, which is unbelievable considering how many films
are out there. But I think I was really fortunate
to be named Best Director by the New York Film
Critics Association and Best Director by London Film Critics Association.
(58:39):
But I must say, like the collaborative process is why
these projects are as powerful and as movie as they are.
And you know, I'm the director in the face of it,
but I mean hundreds of people go into this.
Speaker 8 (58:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
Nicol Boys is shown nationwide in limited theaters, so check
your local listings. If not, I'm sure it'll be available
for street. I mean hopefully soon, you know, so you'll
be able to feel what I felt. And again, wish
you the best of luck tonight. Brother, I'm praying for you,
I'm praying for this nation. This is Doug Davis listening
to the Black Perspective the Black Information Network.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
Great stuff as always, Doug, thank you, and that's our
program for this week. For more on these stories, listen
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everyone a great Sunday, and be sure to tune in
next week at this time for another edition of The
Black Perspective.
It's Sunday, March second, and on today's show, Andrea Coleman
gives us part two of a two part series about
a documentary film chronicling racism and a small Georgia town,
made by Stephanie Calabrez bart Or. Black owned restaurant tour
organizer e Zequay de Vaux spoke to the Black Information
That Works Morgan would exclusively about how black owned restaurants
(00:22):
in Baltimore stand to benefit economically. We get another segment
of the Color between the Lines from Gracie Award winner
Esther Dillard. Tyreek Winn sat down for a one on
one interview with former NFL star and Atlanta Falcons legend
Warwick Dunn. Doug Davis talks to movie director and writer
Ramel Ross, who is up for the biggest award at
(00:43):
the Oscars tonight. These stories of more are coming your way.
On today's program, Welcome to the Black Perspective. I'm your host,
Mike Island.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Welcome to the Black Perspective, a weekly community affairs program
on the Black Information Network featuring interviews and discussions on
issues important to the Black community.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Good Sunday, everyone, and Welcome to the Black Perspective. The
killing of two black couples in nineteen forty six, known
as the Moore's Ford lynchings, serve as the backdrop of
the film Unspoken. The film chronicles the racist treatment of
black people in the town of Monroe, Georgia. Last week
on The Black Perspective, the film's creator, Stephanie Calibreez spoke
(01:22):
of the courage it took for her to highlight these
stories that many in her community may want to be
left in the past. This week, Ms Calibreeze takes the
Black Information Networks Andrea Coleman inside the racist killings that
continue to haunt that community today.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
If one very important white person or group of very
important white people say hey, we're done, we're good, it's
not valid, right, It's not the truth. And so I
think it's increasingly more important for people to dig in
to understand our history, right, because that influences the problems
that we still have today in the present.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, and I want you to bring us up to
speed on where everything stands regarding these cases. But one question,
regarding a statement you just made, racism still being in
the country and it being a part of our history.
Our history is being a race from the history books
in many states right now, when looking at stories like this,
how important is it that they be included in the
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telling of the American story.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
It's critical, It's critical. I mean our Americans. We have
people who live in our country today who lived during
the time of segregation, like that's present day. Many of
the people who integrated schools are still alive today. So
these stories are very much a part of our present
and so that trauma that people have experienced is still
(02:45):
you know, in our society today. People are living with
that trauma and they're living with, you know, the challenges
of things like school teachers were not paid. School teachers
are not pay the same amount as the white teachers.
I saw this right in our city council many minutes. So,
you know, black businesses, right didn't have an opportunity to
(03:06):
achieve the same financial success as white businesses. They weren't supported.
Black people in our community couldn't get everyday jobs, right.
They could be janitors, they could work in the cafeteria
at the school, they could work at the chicken plant,
you know, very manual labor jobs. And so people who
had to live through this are still alive today. So
(03:26):
it's very much a present day challenge. And you know,
it's something that if you understand our history, it helps
you understand our present and then it helps you shape
your actions. Right, this is why it's important to have
a diverse employee base. This is why it's important to
have diversity on your boards, you know, for organizations and
(03:46):
for businesses. So it's extremely relevant.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, that's very very good. Bring us up to date
on these cases. I mean, we're talking history, but these
are on resolves, so in a way, there are still
very much present day issues that need to be attended to,
or can be attended to if people choose. So, So
where are we regarding the lynchings? And I wonder just
if I can give and pay homage to the four
(04:10):
people who were dead. They have names, and they were people.
George W. Dorsey, who was a World War Two veteran
and worked as a sharecropper on a farm in north
central Georgia, May Murray Dorsey, George's wife, Roger Malcolm, who
had been imprisoned in Walton County for stabbing a white employer.
And then Dorothy Malcolm, who was his wife and was
seven months pregnant at the time of her death. If
(04:32):
you can just briefly maybe share the story behind their
killings and then where their case stands today.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I'll try to give you the cliff notes, yes, which
is a little bit painful to do, but basically, Roger
Malcolm was jailed for getting in a fight with a
white farmer. It was rumored that the white farmer was
having an affair with his wife. So Roger and this farmer,
Barnett Hester, fought, Roger stabbed Barnett Hester. Barnett Hester went
(05:04):
to the hospital. There's a news article in the Walton Tribune,
you know, sort of validating this, and Roger Malcolm was
sent to jail. Lloy Harrison got bail to release Roger
from jail. This is jail you know, in Monroe, in
Walton County, and Dorothy, George Dorsey, and May Murray were
(05:24):
in the car with Lloy to go bail Roger Malcolm
out of jail. So they got him out of jail.
The four of them and Lloy Harrison were in the car.
Lloyd was driving the car. They took the long way
back to the farm that day, and it was this
sort of sharecropper time, so you know, obviously they knew
each other. They had, you know, lived very close to
each other. They were very familiar with each other. And
(05:46):
as they approached the Morsford Bridge, which was a dirt
road a wooden bridge at that time, the car was
stopped by a mob of white men and the four
victims were taken from the vehicle. They were taken by
the side of the Appleife River and they were shot
to death. And that's essentially the story the tragedy.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
And no one was ever held accountable for those shootings.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
No, no, There was an FBI investigation for several months,
there was a grand jury hearing, but nobody was convicted
for the crime. Anthony Pitch, who's the author of the
last lynching, worked with Joe Bell to basically create a
case to get these grand jury testimony documents unsealed, and
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that process took many years. Initially, the documents could not
be found, but Anthony Pitch found the documents and Joe
Bell reported that to the court system to let them
know that the documents had been found and the documents
were to remain sealed. Anthony and Joe Bell petitioned to
unseal the grand jury testimony documents. That petition was actually granted.
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It was appealed by the US government and then it
went before a group of US District Court judges and
it was to remain sealed again. So the alternative now
is there is a Civil Rights Cold Case Review Board
that was established and the Civil Rights Cold Case Act
was actually signed off by President Trump to become a
(07:16):
law in his first presidency. A Cold Case Review Board
commission was put together to review the civil rights cold
cases to determine if documents, you know, should be made
available to the public. And so Joe Bell Attorney submitted
these documents or potential review and so it's in consideration
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right now and hopefully we'll have an update this year. Well,
my fingers are crossed.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
That's powerful. That's powerful. Will you do an update with
the film if it warrants.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I don't know if I'll do an update with the film,
but one hundred percent there'll be information on the film website.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Now, there was another linding, actually this one quite recent.
Nineteen eighty one, a twenty three year old Army private
Lynn McKinley Jackson. Its body was found the wooded area
outside Monroe, and he was believed to be involved with
a white lady. You cover all of this in the film,
which is very powerful. Where is his case today? Has
there been any kind of activity on it at all?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
This case was reopened several years ago when I was
working on the film, and I had reached out to
our Walton County Sheriff's department to do an open records
request for information to see what I could learn. I
was informed that the case had been reopened, so records
couldn't be provided to me. I did put a request
(08:34):
in to receive records from the Georgia Bureau Investigation and
was able to receive those documents. So much of my
research was from those documents, and I've also received some
federal documents as well that helped me sort of research
the case. It is an open case. I did meet
with the officer who's over the case. I shared the
film with him. I shared a very detailed document of
(08:57):
all of my research, information that I found and thoughts
I had, especially in reviewing the death inquest. It was
a very thick document with a lot of testimony to determine,
you know, if it was a suicide or not. Yeah,
and so in reviewing those documents, I sort of had,
you know, my own thoughts of things that seem questionable
(09:19):
to me. So I submitted all of my information to
the officer. And as I understand, it is a cold case,
and it's still an open case, so I know they
are open to receiving any information that people might have
about it, So, you know, I have.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Some hope for that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
But clearly, if the case has been reopened, it's not
likely that it was a suicide.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, that's interesting, and I don't know if we've explained
that for our listeners. The reference to suicide is that
he had gotten into an accident earlier that day. I
had gone to his sister's house and then went into town,
and after that was not seen again until his body
was found hanging from a tree in that wooded area.
And then people then began saying he was so distraught
over having wrecked his car that he hanged himself. His
(10:03):
family on the film, of course, saying they don't think
that was as tragic an event to warrant that kind
of reaction from him. How important is it, Stephanie for
people who look like you to tell these stories?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh on gosh, Well, first you got to take it
in right, like I think you know, obviously, I can't
speak for all white people, but I think that it's
difficult for anyone. If you've got time to learn new
things and to study new things, you really kind of
have to push yourself to dig into the stuff that's
not so fun to listen to. And so I think
(10:34):
I just really would encourage white people to really get
to know your history. It's super important, and also to
connect with people in your own community, to really understand
racial injustice, to get comfortable with it, to watch films
about it, to listen to podcasts about it. There's a
whole reference area of resources on my website that are
(10:56):
great places to start. I think it's critical because we
don't have that perspective right. It's easy for us to
say there's no racism in this country. I don't feel it,
I don't see it. Well, of course you don't. So yeah,
it's critical. It's so important, and honestly, you know, as
difficult as it is to really take in that truth
and then to start to question yourself of you know,
(11:20):
where did I make my own mistakes? Where didn't I
listen well, where did I just brush off a comment
that maybe one of my black friends made. I was thinking, well,
you know, is that really true? Or are you sure
you're not imagining that?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
You know?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So, I think it's important to question yourself to get
really comfortable with those moments marry me where you didn't
speak up, or maybe you heard a joke and you
didn't say something. It's like, own that in yourself is
kind of step one. So absolutely I encourage every single
person who looks like me to do that.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I love that. And where can our listeners view Unspoken
right now?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Educational institutions and public live who have a Canopy subscription,
So if you've got a library card or student ID,
you can watch Unspoken on Canopy on video on demand.
It's also currently broadcasting on GPB here in Georgia. I
don't have the air dates, but as I get them,
I add them to my website, so you can be
on the lookout for that. And then video on demand distribution.
(12:19):
I'm hoping that comes together this year. But people can
stay updated on the film on the film website, which
is just Unspoken dot film. There's an email list they
can subscribe and so anytime I have information about new
access to the film, I share it there.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
It's very good. In your website, you've mentioned it a
couple of times. What is it?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
My personal website is Stephanie Calabres dot com. Very getting
you spell Calabrese c A L A B R E
S E. And we mentioned former Georgia State Legislator Tyrone Brooks.
We can mention that his re enactment of the nineteen
forty six mores Ford lynching does take place every April.
And just a little background on him. He has been
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a long time civil rights or here, not only in
the Atlanta area, but throughout Georgia, and so you can
probably also find information. I don't know where. Do you
know where we could possibly find information regarding that enactment.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
There is a Facebook page, shares a Facebook page. Okay,
very good, Stephanie. We just can't thank you enough for
your work and for your heart. And I want to
end with one last question, and that is how did
this experience change you?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Gosh, dramatically. It's completely changed my perspective the way I
think about engaging with people, not just in my community
but everywhere. It has helped me truly value diversity in
my friendship circles, in my businesses and people I work with.
(13:44):
It's critical. It's changed how I think about things. It's
changed how I vote. It's you know, I don't just
think about myself. I think about what other people need
in my community. Yeah, it's changed me very deeply, and
I hope the film changes other people too. Any small moment,
(14:04):
any response, any question, any comment that someone can have
that combats racism and these little one off conversations that
happen every day is so critical, and so I hope
the film inspires people to do that.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, do you have a favorite moment in the film.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
You know, I really had a hard time with the
ending of the film. I was very disappointed in the ending.
I had high hopes that there would have been a
unanimous yes. And I won't reveal the end of the film,
so I was very upset by the film. I really
didn't want it to have a not so happy ending.
And so I think the ending of the film, while
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it was troubling and really disappointing, it was also necessary.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
So I would have.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
To say that the story continues, Yes, and the need
for attention to it as well. Yeah, thank you so
much for joining us. It's been delightful. Yeah, and thank
you for your work. Yeah, I hope you're encouraged to
pick up the name story that comes at me, catch
your Beth a little bit by that you'll you'll pick
it up with courage and know that we are waiting
to see it and view it and grow through it.
So thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Thanks Andrea. You can learn more about the film and
the more's Ford lynchings online at Unspoken dot Film. In
conjunction with the CI Double A, the Black Owned Restaurant
Tour or BORT is going on in Baltimore. BART organizer
zek Way Devo spoke to the Black Information Networks and
Morgan would exclusively about how black owned restaurants in Baltimore
(15:31):
stand the benefit economically and how BORT also created a
community among black restaurant owners in the charm City. BARD
features sixteen black owned restaurants, from small mom and pop
shops to Michelin Star Dining.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Joining me now on the Black Information Network is Zeke
Way Devot from the Black Owned Restaurant Tour or BORT.
It's actually happening right now, the same week.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
As CI Double A. E Zeeway, thank you so much.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
For joining me. My pleasure, Morgan, So tell me.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
More about Board or the Black Owned Restaurant Tour. For
those who don't know, the.
Speaker 8 (16:06):
Black Owned Restaurant Tour is something that we started about
four years ago. Now this is the fourth annual annual
tour and it started really with UH in conjunction with
trying to find creative ways to ensure that local, specifically
black owned businesses benefit from the economic impact that CIBA
(16:32):
brings to a city. So we didn't want folks to
come to Baltimore all of this great business, ciuble A
being a historically black college and university tournament, and the
black businesses missed the impact. So to raise awareness and
to make sure that there's some intentional support of black
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owned businesses, Board was created. The idea that I actually
had for a while and didn't have the proper support
really to implement it. So ci Doublea provided that support
for the first Board tour to happen, and the first
boat tour was actually just bought weeks and it was
seven restaurants and we did one a day. And now
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here we are three years later, four years later with
sixteen different restaurants on the Board tour and several more
that had requested to be a part of the tour.
But we just you know, couldn't see everybody, and the
now nine day tour that starts the Saturday before Ciba.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
That's absolutely amazing. When I travel, that's the first thing
I think about. It's not you know, the parties or
this or that. It's like what am I going to
eat when I get there. So the fact that you
set that up for people who are coming in town
for ci double A and also making sure that that,
like you said, the impact goes into that black pocket
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is absolutely amazing. Talk about some of the challenges that
you have faced with.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
That, Well, you know, one of the challenges is that
you just can't visit everybody, and so you try to
visit as many restaurants as you can. We wanted to
keep it in a decent proximity of the ciuble A
Games and host hotels. So sometimes people are wondering, well,
(18:29):
why do certain you know, restaurants get selected. It's mainly
about proximity. Yes, yes, yep, that is a fact. So
that's how they're selected. The challenge is that, you know,
we can't visit everybody, but we try to get them
to give them shout outs here and there. And what
we have noticed is that the restaurants who are not
(18:51):
on the tour, even uh though they're not on the tour,
still get the benefit of raising people's awareness. Oh that
this is something that I should be more conscious of,
you know, local black owned businesses. So we found that
people are starting to look for black owned restaurants in particular,
even ones that are not on the list, and an
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attempt to support the overall concept and not just those
specific restaurants.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
That's amazing.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Yeah, And speaking of benefits, similar the unknown benefits for
then as obvious benefits is. You know, we don't have
a little Italy. You know, we don't have a Greek town,
we don't have a China town. So the opportunity to
learn from one another and to make the learning curve
less deep when owning a restaurant is not typically there
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for us. You know, we don't have this concentrated area
of a city where we can learn one another from
one another's restaurants. You know, most black owned restaurants are
in destination locations, you know, and many are in practically isolation.
So this board towards not just hey stop here, stopped there.
(20:06):
I've created you know, basically a group chat with these
restaurant owners and they exchange everything from quality accountants that
they use to where do they get their plates, you know,
or who runs their social media page. So it's just
really a blessing upon blessing. You know, when the restaurants
or I ordered you know, too many linens, can anybody
(20:28):
use some? You know, there's a smaller cafe style restaurants
can take advantage of the surplus that comes sometimes from
the larger restaurants. So it's this sharing of resources and
vendors that really speak to the value of creating a
network amongst these black restaurants where they collaborate over competition.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Amazing. That's that's really cool that you've created quite the
community aspect of that. And you know, if it's anything
black people need, we need us. So oh yeah, what
type of feedback have you received from the restaurants and
also those who have frequented the restaurants, those patrons who
have gone and said, oh my god, that was good.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Yeah. Well just last night, you know, we had our
fit stop on the board tour already last night Yabo
Kitchen and people were just I've never been here. This
is such a nice spot. Ya Bo is kind of
unique because we go a little bit more into the
community for Yabo Kitchen, and so people get a chance
(21:35):
to venture around a little bit into the Charles Village area,
uh and get eat some really good food and get
some really great hospitality. So a lot of the feedback
I heard was, of course how good the food is,
but the great service that we received, because a lot
of times, you know, we see this picture painting on
(21:56):
social media that uh uh, you know, we missed the
mark on service, and of course that's in every industry.
You have some of those, but that is definitely not
the norm amongst our restaurants. You know, those are the
people who missed the mark, just like in every industry.
So yeah, people really enjoy it, you know, fifth stop already.
(22:19):
Our first day was Saturday and we went to Chicks,
Freemium Chicken and Fort McHenry which puts raisin canes chickens
to shamee. You got to check them out. Then we
went to Black Swan for dinner that you love it.
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It's a party. It's a party at black Swan. So
that was the first day, Saturday, February twenty second, and
then the next day, Sunday, February twenty third, we went
to Swell for lunch, which is a nice think. They
categorized it as a Bohemian style cafe, you know, very plectic,
very earthy, the type of spot where you may catch
(23:04):
some live music or poetry reading. Had a good time there,
and then later on that evening we went to Rooted
Rotisserie again you know, out in the community over by
Holland's Market and Rooted. It was really made you know,
famous by the food critic. Food blogger Keith Lee found
(23:31):
himself a Rooted and gave it his very extremely rare
marked at nine point five. Yeah, yeah, so he was.
So they got an influx of attention and ended up
on the tam Rend Hall Show and everything else this
past year. But they're still very humble, great people, great food.
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And then just yesterday Monday, as I mentioned, we did Yebo,
which is a afrofusion I believe it. How they identified
their cuisine Chef Sammy, who did Milk and Honey play
with Yeah, Sef Sammy, So he sold Milking Honey and
opened up Yabo here. He wanted to get back to
(24:13):
being in the kitchen, and he was in the kitchen
himself last night. It was really good to see him
and people loved it. Tonight was going to a very
probably most exclusive restaurant on the tour, which is Magdalena
in the Ivy Hotel. So the Brown family, Eddie Brown
(24:33):
and his wife own the Ivy Hotel and the restaurant
in it, which is Magdalena, which is a beautiful, exclusive
boutique hotel. Who received the double what is the double
Michelin Star Award, the only one to receive it in
the state, very high end place. Again knocking out the
(24:57):
misnomers that you know, we only have certain kind of spots,
so everything from chicken spots to find you know, white
linen dining.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
You said, you said, look, you said the magic words.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Okay, yeah, forget this specific. But it's a very rare,
extremely rare award given to only the best of the best.
So uh, they've achieved that. And whish wish you were
here this evening that you can enjoy it, but we
have will be the rest of the week. Tomorrow is Wednesday,
(25:34):
will be at Soul Street. Fole Street has an interesting
story because Soul Street is a collaboration of two restaurants
that were on the tour the first three years, but
individually weren't being successful, and so they collaborated literally through
the board group chat and decided that they were going
(25:58):
to let go of the independent concepts and do a
joint venture called Foul Street. So tomorrow it's going to
be an interesting visit, you know, almost like a proud
pop us being the creative board. I'm excited, you know,
to see these brothers collabse and do their own restaurant.
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And that's tomorrow right there in north Little Italy, right
across from the Reginald west Lewis Museum. So excited about that.
And then Thursday, we have two stops we're going to
do and Pinata Lady, and then right after that do
Proper Cuisine, get right around the corner from each other.
Then Friday, we're going to do two restaurants again. We'll
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do Poppy Cuisine, which is very popular spot, and then
we'll do uh for like a lunch, and then we'll
do Bar Vegan, which is the newest of the restaurant
to the area.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Yeah, a Baltimore, our native. Whole time, we've been waiting
for the whole Vegans to come.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
This homecoming, that's right, we finally come home. Excited about
that that's that's Friday for dinner, Happy hour dinner, and
then the last today Saturday, we're going to visit three restaurants.
We're gonna do te Vaults for breakfast March first, Saturday morning,
and then we'll do Cross by Amanda for lunch, which
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is right there in the Inner Harbor around a lot
of the activities in the day parties that Powerplant lives.
And then Saturday night we'll do dinner at Unity Restaurant
in the Mount Vernon area. And then March second will
be the last day of the tour Sunday, March second,
and we'll close out with Jerk at Night, which is
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very popular more so in the DC area, but get
new to Baltimore. We're going to support them. And then
we'll close out with a Happy Hour at the Garden
Rooftop restaurant, which is pretty popular as well.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
That's amazing. You guys have quite the lineup a zek way.
I just I'm like, you're right. The problem now is
how do you pick?
Speaker 8 (28:10):
So you don't pick Morgan, you go to them all.
You gotta go to them all every day. That's what
I'm doing.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
So and then the hashtag is Taste the difference. Absolutely
love that. Oh my gosh, So tell me before I
let you go, how can we continue to keep up
with the work that you're doing, because I know it
doesn't it doesn't just stop March second.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
When when Bord.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Week stops, you know, sou or excuse me, bored when
board stops? I know, it doesn't just start stop March second.
So what is a zek Way and Bord doing beyond
the c I double a beyond March second.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Wellek Way and my my lovely company Events for Good
People of the last twenty years will continue to make
a conservative effort to support minority owned businesses, black owned
businesses and you can follow me on Instagram at e
the Number four GP Events for Good People. E the
(29:15):
Number four GP to find out what we have next.
We have some fun fashion color themed events coming up
this spring. We have my annual Summer Black Birthday Bash
coming up in July, and we also do the Baltimore
(29:35):
met Gala. We have a big event that we do
at Preakness. This is Freakness is one hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
so Preakness this May is going to be insane, So
we hope to see everyone out May seventeenth for Afropre.
You can also find information about that on my page
(29:56):
soon as well. But yeah, keep it simple too with
some weekly happy hours. Speaking of Pink Pinky Cole, I'm
going to be doing bar Vegan Fridays with her, just
to have some consistency for folks who need something to
do every week. And the special events will continue as well.
(30:20):
Just follow you four GP events for good people and
you know, find out what we're doing next.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Absolutely look forward to it. And it sounds like you've
got some other events that I might want to come
around and cover, so.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
We'll keep in touch.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
Definitely looking forward.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
To it, all right, Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
As e g Way devout from Black Owned Restaurant Tour,
I'm Morgan with it on the Black Information Network.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Thank you Morgan.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
For more information, go to visit Baltimore dot org. Black
Information News anchor Tyreek Win sat down for a one
on one interview with former NFL star and Atlanta Falcons
Legend Work Done Done Now, The first black limited partner
of the Atlanta Falcons, shared what this historic milestone means
to him and the future of black ownership in the NFL.
(31:05):
He also opened up about his charity work through Work
Done Charities, which has helped countless families achieve homeownership.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
Hey guys, it's Star Reek went on your home for
Black News first the Black Information Network. We are broadcasting
with an NFL legend. We got v Warren done online
with us right now.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
How are you, man?
Speaker 9 (31:23):
How's things going?
Speaker 5 (31:25):
All is well, bro? I'm just hustling, man, I'm just
hustling every day. I'm hustling.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
I'm trying to do it, you know, I'm just trying
to I stay business. So it's all good.
Speaker 9 (31:33):
Oh yeah, of course. So let's speaking of saying busy.
We got something amazing going on. You're part of the
massive Super Bowl fan fest in Atlanta, bringing fans together
for an unforgettable experience. So what excites you the most
about events like these and what does it mean to
connect with the Atlanta community in this way?
Speaker 10 (31:50):
Well, I think the most important thing about opportunities events
like this is really you get to engage people.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
You get to meet new ends, learn.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
More about them, or there's an opportunities that people hadn't
seen me that may want.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
To engage me, get a picture and those things. So
it's really it's just an opportunity.
Speaker 10 (32:11):
To really see people, meet people, but also learn more
about individuals.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
I think, you know, to come together.
Speaker 10 (32:19):
That's how you build relationships and connectivity with individuals and
communities when you come together. So this is just a
great opportunity to really engage individuals, families and you know kids,
they tell you you hear all kinds of stories. You
learn a lot about people, what they think and so forth,
and you hear the good and the bad.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
When it comes to the football. Also, it's always fun.
Speaker 9 (32:42):
Oh yeah, of course, speaking of football, You've had an
incredible career in the NFL, but now you're making history
in a different way as the first black limited partner
of the Atlanta Falcons. Can you tell me what that
milestone means to you personally and what impact do you
hope it has on future black ownership in the NFL.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
Well, I've been a partner since nine and I'm thankful
for that. Again, that's, you know, because of a great
owner like Mista Blank giving me an opportunity to do
something like that. You know, to be an example for
other individuals, you know, they have to also learn and
understand the journey to get there. I really focus more
(33:22):
on not living for today, but for the next twenty
thirty years of your life, and you got to plan
and sacrifice some things. And we have to teach each
other those little things how we can continue moving forward
to being the best that we can be and put
ourselves in position to be able to invest in the
team and become part of the ownership group. So that's
(33:46):
a journey that you can't just think about today. You know,
you got to think about the future and how now
I can be an example for the future generation that
this opportunity is there. It's just you have to do
your part and hopefully people take that and learn that
you do have opportunity to advance yourself if you do
(34:06):
those little things to be consistent and productive in life.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
So I'm thankful.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
And then before we close it out, I want to
talk about your charity work. Right, So you have your
amazing charity work done charities, you've helped so many families
achieve homeownership. Can you tell me what inspired you to
focus on this cause and can you share a story
of a family that you really touched through your work.
Speaker 10 (34:31):
Well, I got started on this journey because of my
own personal tragedy in my life.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
My mom's dream of home ownership. And I've been.
Speaker 10 (34:40):
Able to help assist single parent families over the last
twenty seven on twenty eight years coming up first time
home ownership and that's give them five thousand dollars down
payment and fully furnishing at home. So we've been able
to really touch two hundred and thirty six single parents
families in sixteen states, thirty cities, impacting them because home
(35:06):
ownership is it's important. It create stability in kids, they
perform better and much more confident. So to help a
family move forward and create that connectivity I think.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Is important in our society. But we also have to.
Speaker 10 (35:23):
Give continue to push them, to give them a little
bit more with support services that we do it to
charity now with our SCOPE program overall brand of health
and wellness where we talk about health is your wealth,
physical working out, bimetts, eating healthy, growing vegetables and all
that stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Financial health count of your future.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
If you invest in yourself, we will invest in you
with healthy sort of savings account and focus on spending
on needs versus once we all have wants in the world,
but what do we need to live a good life?
And then the mental health capacity Betty's Hope where we
try to create that balance for families when they're navigating,
you like, because today the way kids respond adversity, it's
(36:10):
tough and I do have We also help families with
scholarships where we give our five thousand dollars scholarships to
individuals that are in college and need some assistance, but
they're also involved in giving back in their community too.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
There's some community engagement.
Speaker 10 (36:27):
So we bring all those support services to the families
that we help. And you know, one family that really
sticks out is that the mother.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
We helped her get into a home, a habitat home.
Speaker 10 (36:43):
She sold at home and bought another home, and her
son bought his first home. So now when we talk
about generational wealth, yeah, that's what you're working on, you're
passing it down.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
But she was an example and he stayed open to
doing that.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
And you know, for me, parents are important in kids' lives,
having both, but you know, a mother and a father
engaged this little kid, this guy, little man, he's a
man now, took those steps and follow you know, the
example that his mom's sitting.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
And that's what you want.
Speaker 10 (37:22):
And now we're thinking about the next generation and next
generation because when you think about it home ownership, most
people think that you.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Know, you build generations off because I own a home.
Speaker 10 (37:34):
No, it takes generations to actually build that wealth equity,
and you don't realize that equity into the home until
you sell it. So the reality of it is you
sit on it, you keep it in the family, and
once you sell it, then you realize that equity that
the family. Uh, the family has. But you know you're
(37:54):
impacting that generation that that you're part of in securing
having something stable.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
But you got to think about the future because.
Speaker 10 (38:02):
Anything can happen in life where we need some assistance
and we got to continue.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
To rely on each other. So I can go on
and on and on about it. I don't want to
do that, but uh, it's you know, it's it is.
Speaker 10 (38:13):
It is great to have a parent that are solda
home bought another home, but then you have a kid
their first time, that is that's the time.
Speaker 9 (38:23):
Yeah, that's beautiful man. Definitely love to hear it. And
kudos to you on everything you got going on. I
know you're gonna continue to do the good work, so
definitely kudos to you and congratulation everything you have going on.
And I appreciate you so much for your time. Uh,
thank thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
It was a pleasure. No, I appreciate it. Man. I'm
gonna keep I'm gonna keep going. They called me the
road run. I'm gonna go be deep. I'm gonna keep going.
I appreciate that. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
Well, thank you so much, mister Warrig done. Like I said,
best of luck to you and all the future things
that you will have going on. And guys, thank you
so much for tuning in. It is your home for
black news first the Black Information Network. Catch you guys
next time. I'm Tyreek Wayne.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Thanks Tyreek. It's a disease that nearly ninety nine percent
of the population in the US can contract, and it
can be very severe. It can cause blindness. In this
week's The Color Between the Lines, the Black Information Networks,
Esther Dillard shares a story of one woman who contracted
it and her mission to warn others with a campaign
(39:21):
called Thrive at fifty plus.
Speaker 11 (39:23):
This week on The Color between the Lines, and I.
Speaker 12 (39:26):
Felt a bump in my lower left quadrant of my
back and I'm like ow.
Speaker 11 (39:31):
We talk about shingles. What it was like for one
black woman and what doctors say about your risk of
contracting it. I'm Esther Dillard chatting with writers, authors and
experts who offer an added perspective for listeners. This is
the Color between the Lines.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
In this edition of The Color Between Lines.
Speaker 11 (40:00):
Were not talking to an author, but a woman who
likely could write a book about her journey with a
disease that doctor say doesn't discriminate. It's called shingles, and
it can strike really anyone who has had the chicken
pox as a kid. That's because once you have it,
doctor say, the disease lies dormant in your spine. Cassandra
told me on the bin. Although she knew the name shingles,
(40:20):
she didn't know what she was dealing with when a
bump suddenly showed up on her back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 12 (40:26):
And I felt a bump in my lower left quadrant
of my back, and I'm like ouch, you know now,
I assumed it was a spider bite. Didn't see a spider,
you know, din had never been been by spider, but
couldn't think of any other reason why something would be
back there hurting like that. The next day, this pain
(40:46):
was just continuing to escalate, and at some point in
the day. I'm like, okay, I think I'm gonna need
some medical attention. But I remind you, this was the
weekend before Labor Day, on a Sunday, so I got
I went through the rigamaroo with my insurance and got
a chance to get in touch with a doctor via teleconference.
So it was a virtual decision that day. The doctor
(41:11):
asked me two questions. Well, he asked one question and
then it led me to where we are today, he says.
After I explained to him what I thought was going on,
he says, well, did you have the chicken pox as
a child. I'm like, I absolutely did, me and everybody
in my house old. He says, well, it seems to me,
or it sounds to me, that what you probably have
(41:33):
or may have, is the shingles. It caught me on guard.
Might shingles me. I'm like, well, okay, at that point, now,
I was sixty years old, but my knowledge about shingles
was not where it should have been.
Speaker 11 (41:49):
And she's not alone.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
Well, shingles is actually the same virus that causes chicken pox.
It's a virus called Vericella Zauster.
Speaker 11 (41:56):
African American doctor Bio Curry Winchel is the medical direct
for Saint Mary's Urgent Care Group in Reno, Nevada. She's
also the director of the Beyond Clinical Walls podcast.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
Adults over the age of fifty have are likely to
already have it dormant in their body, and so at
any point in time there can be a reactivation. And
that's why this conversation is so important, Because having a
conversation with your doctor, with your pharmacist about your own
personal risk or vaccination is important. And when we have
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these types of discussions, people can actually understand more about
the disease, because sometimes it can feel really hard to
think about what is shingles? What is this? Is this
something that can affect me? But when we have these
type of conversations, it allows people to say, oh, now
I know a little bit more, and now I can
go and talk to my doctor or my pharmacist and
(42:52):
find out my personal risk.
Speaker 11 (42:54):
Cassandra wasn't so lucky.
Speaker 12 (42:56):
And within a couple of hours that one bomb turned
into a cluster of bumps. I'm like, oh wow. But
from the moment I felt the pain, that initial pain,
it didn't cease for months. In a short period of time,
the bumps. That bump went to multiple bumps to raise bumps,
and they started turning into blisters. I try my best
(43:19):
to help paint a picture because this was an experience
I would not wish upon anyone, and that is why
I'm so thankful to GSK and as well to Thrive
at fifty plus the platform on Facebook to help get
the message out there that you have. You can empower yourself.
Speaker 11 (43:36):
When you say pain escalating up and up? Are you
talking a burning pain, a stinging pain, a spreading pain?
Can you describe it?
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Miss Ester.
Speaker 12 (43:47):
I'm not one who's short on words often, but it
has been one of the hardest things for me to
do is explain to people. To simply say beyond it
hurts so bad. It hurts so bad is an understatement.
The location of it added to the frustration of this
process and this experience, and it was I could say
(44:09):
the pain. I could say it was this. I could
say sometimes the people it felt like a mountain lion
was locked into me and just was not gonna let go.
I've not ever been bitten by a mountain lion, but
I'm fairly certain that's not pleasant. You ever hit your
elbow in the wrong spot and it hurts so bad.
How about that pain?
Speaker 5 (44:29):
Or not for four months straight?
Speaker 12 (44:31):
Or you ever banged that knee on the corner of
the table right there at the middle of that patilla. Oh,
and it makes you weak?
Speaker 5 (44:37):
That pain.
Speaker 12 (44:39):
I mean, it's I don't want to say short of childbirth,
but the pain, it is one of the most severe
pains I've had in my at this point, I'm sixty four.
In my sixty four year history of living. To this day,
it is not nearly as severe as it was from
September to December. But I have not had that complete
(45:05):
relief from it at all. And I don't want the
people listening to us to think that that is how
it is for everyone. I can't speak for everyone, but
Cassandra's experience was this. I had no knowledge that it
was going to be like this, but my experience put
me in a category of what they call PHN.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
It's called post herpadic neuralgia or PHIN, and it's affecting
the nerves and so that the nerve distribution in your
body isn't just where that rash is. A lot of
people aren't aware that it actually is expanding throughout your body.
So I'll give an example. You've got your spine and
then you've got nerves that are going through So if
you have a ration in one area, but those nerves
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are going through the body, that pain can go all
along that entire nerve. And so that's why that can
last several weeks to months. And that's why it's also
important because if you can have a conversation about your
risk factors and really have you know, awareness, it allows
you to have that power to decide what you would
(46:09):
like to do.
Speaker 11 (46:09):
Are there any special risk factors for African Americans or
African American women when it comes to shingles?
Speaker 6 (46:17):
I love this question. So this is my So there's
a myth that black individuals are not at the same
risk for shingles, and that isn't true. One thing that
I think is really helpful to kind of highlight over
ninety nine percent of individuals are likely to have been
exposed or have shingles already in their body. But let's
(46:41):
go a little bit further. When we look at race
or black individuals, that's the color of our skin. That
is not our genetics. So the color of my skin
does not make me less likely to develop a disease.
And the problem is with that narrative, there is this
thought that, oh, I have this rash, it can't be
shingles because I've been told because I'm blocked, that I'm
(47:03):
less likely to get it. And then let's couple that
with being a woman and being a black woman. There
are so many different layers that we carry just naturally
where we are supposed to be resilient. We're supposed to
have all of these things that we may not go
in and see the doctor. So that's why this conversation
is important to really uncouple and allow people to know
(47:26):
that the color of your skin does not reduce your
risk of developing shingles.
Speaker 11 (47:32):
And even though Cassandra says she first contracted shingles in
twenty twenty five years later, she still feels remnants of
its round.
Speaker 12 (47:39):
So to this day, my back has permanent scarring where
my shingles was, and I'm reaching back as I speak
to you, and I can literally touch that area.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Now.
Speaker 12 (47:50):
It's not causing any pain right now, but it's ever present.
Speaker 11 (47:53):
The National Institutes of Health says shingles, also known as
Herpie's sauster, effects about one million people each year. Their
website says the most effective way to prevent shingles is
to get vaccinated, but it's best to talk to your
doctor to find the best path. Both Cassandra and doctor
Bio recommend don't wait until it's too late.
Speaker 6 (48:12):
Shingles is more than a rash, and so if you
have something that you're not sure about and it's there
and it's never been there before, have a conversation, be seen.
Go and talk to your doctor or your pharmacists. And
also another big thing I think is important to know
that people don't realize that they have vercella zoster virus
(48:36):
likely already dormant in their bodies, so that reactivation could
happen at any time. And last, but not least, I
always highlight your health is your most prized possession.
Speaker 12 (48:48):
You know, a lot of times when you hear something
from somebody, even if you don't know them, but if
you feel like they're credible, you might want to listen
a little bit closer to what they're saying. And when
I learned from a Facebook thing from friends and family
and others strangers, is that, Hey, my husband and I've
been sitting on the fence for years about this, but
after we heard your story. We went next week and
(49:08):
got it or thank you for that, and I appreciate
you sharing that private experience. But I'm on my way,
and you know, and I have been trying to convince
my father and I'm now working hard on trying.
Speaker 5 (49:18):
To do it.
Speaker 9 (49:19):
That brings me joy.
Speaker 12 (49:22):
Now if I had given that I had no choice
in this experience, the fact that I'm able now to
help others to either avoid it advocate for themselves, you know,
because the more you know, the better you grow.
Speaker 11 (49:34):
That's it for this edition of The Color Between the Lines.
You can check out the replant on the Color between
the Lines YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Thank you Esther, and if you'd like more information about
shingles and the Thrive at fifty plus campaign, go to
Thrive at fifty plus on Facebook. Doug Davis has a
very special guest on the show. Tonight is the where
Hollywood pays respect to the finest done film. We at
the Black Information Network are giving our flowers to Doug's
(50:07):
guest movie director and writer Ramel Ross, who is up
for the biggest award at the Oscars.
Speaker 6 (50:12):
Tonight.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Doug take it away.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Hey, thanks Mike, this is Doug Davis and Tonight is
the ninety seventh Academy Awards, an event that honors those
who took part in making some of the best pictures
of the year. And there's a black film that's up
for a Picture of the Year that captures an era
of our history that has never been expressed in this
type of manner. Nicol Boyce is based on the Pulitzer
Prize winning novel by Colston Whitehead and directed and written
(50:36):
and adapted by Georgetown alum African American Ramel Ross. And
he's with us to talk about the movie and the
reasons why critics are going bananas as they say, Welcome
to the bin, brother, Ramel. What led you to take
on this project? What was so special about this book
that made you say I gotta do this.
Speaker 5 (50:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (50:54):
I was fortunate enough to be asked to adapt the
book by company called Plan B and I think it was,
you know, almost one of those meant to be moments,
because you know, I've been making photos in Alabama, Hell County,
Alabama to be specific, for like fifteen years. I've been
filming there for fifteen years, and the opportunity was incredible
(51:21):
because I could sort of elevate my art practice in
my way in which I've been using the camera to
Coulson Whitehead's narrative. It it could take the because the
story is just so powerfully written and rendered. It could
accept the sort of poetic way in which I like
to make images. And it's kind of a match made
(51:42):
in heaven.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
I mean, you know, for someone like myself who's a
little bit older, right, And I'm loving the way your
generation presents stories. It's much different than ours. Explain the
type of cinematic directing that you did with this particular
movie in the.
Speaker 13 (51:59):
Style, yeah, the way that the film is shot. The
audience is experiencing the world of the character as they
are experiencing it. But it's not the kind of point
of view from you know, the GoPro or the action cam.
It's the kind of point of view in which, you know,
we're using long lenses and we're using shallow focus, and
(52:19):
we're using the camera as an extension of consciousness. And
with that you're kind of you kind of give way
as an audience to genuinely and at least conceptually like
seeing and filling the world and the meaning making process
that happens inside another's head. And so there are these
(52:40):
epic banal moments, just adding something to the way in
which we are stuck in our own heads and we've
never seen the world through others' eyes. It's giving us
a closer glimpse to perhaps what it's like to be
in another person's visual field and their visual mini making field.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Right, how did you cultivate that type of ability to
be able to I mean I literally felt that you
were taking a chapter out of history. I felt like
I was there.
Speaker 13 (53:11):
You know, it comes from taking photography and film very
very very seriously in the in the Alabama South and
trying to figure out, you know, quite literally, like how
we've come to be seen, like how people of color,
black folks specifically are are made, like the production of blackness,
(53:34):
Like the camera is a tool of racism, it's it's
it also is a tool of you know, revelation, but
it can be connected to disseminating the false notion of race.
And I always wondered how how did cinema participate in that?
How did news broadcasts participate in that? How did photo
history organize and disseminate false notions of race? And with that,
(54:01):
it just it's a process that forces you to do
a deep dive and look for strategies to deal with
kind of what the camera embeds in it, which is
everything that's come before. You know, this guy, Victor Bergen
says quite beautifully that the photograph is a psychological event.
It happens in the mind of the person who's viewing
(54:23):
the photograph. So then how do you make an image
that has that touch of when a mother makes a
photo of their kid, or when you're taking a photo
of your parent, that that intimacy like that's been absent
from photohistory typically when images of people of color have
been made primarily by white folks.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah, yeah, you know, what you just mentioned just reminds
me of the first time I saw the movie The
Original Birth of a Nation, and the power behind that
movie and how it, really, in my opinion, cattle halted
the negative racial stereotypes of African Americans that still permeate today.
(55:07):
I didn't know that watermelon was a major cash crop
for us when we were finally released technically from the bondage.
I didn't know that. But if you didn't know that history,
you would think that, you know, we're just some watermelon
eating folks. But they really flipped it they really flipped it.
They flipped economic progress into a negative racial stereotype. And
(55:32):
so you're taking, you know, your cinematic viewpoint of how
stories are depicted, and you're really flipping it man, in
a in a whole. It's it's almost kind of hard
for me to describe, to be quite fair with you,
it's kind of hard for me to put it in words.
I know, when the publicist said, so, what do you think,
I'm like, I don't even know if I have a word.
Speaker 13 (55:53):
You know, Yeah, Well I love I love that you're
expressing it that way, Doug, Like, I really love it
because that's part of the the mission of the film,
which is to like give the viewer and an actual experience,
right like when you're when you're out swimming in the
ocean and you get a swell underwater of a different
water temperature, or a fish comes and breasts against your
(56:17):
leg and you get a jolt. Like these types of
experiences are beyond words. You can describe it to someone,
But the only way someone will know that something is
hot is to fill heat, right, Like that is the
way that the world works. And I think if you
can give someone something that's that's that they can't. They
can barely express because it's so experiential. If you can
(56:39):
do that in the context of someone's life, in the
context of the Dozer school boys' life, then I think
you're doing history in a way that.
Speaker 5 (56:47):
It's relatively fresh.
Speaker 13 (56:48):
It's it's experiential, it's it's something that becomes of the body, right.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Love that love that final words share some sentiments about
the movie, encouraging our listeners to go check it out.
Speaker 13 (56:59):
Yeah, you guys, you guys got to watch it. It's
I think it's beautiful. Art director photography Joe Mulfrey did
incredible work. We have some of the most talented artists
you know working on the project. And I think if
you go with an open mind and open heart and
open eyes, I think you're your encounter something that genuinely
(57:20):
adds to the aesthetic quality of your life.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
Amazing. How can we find more movies that you have directed?
And uh, where can we find you on social media?
And for folks who may want to get in contact
with you, how can we find you?
Speaker 13 (57:33):
Well, my Instagram handle is is just ramel Ross at
remel It's just at ramel Ross. But I've made this
other film, Hell County this morning this evening that you
can stream on Amazon and have a short film on
film a Visions the website, and aside from that, my
website is Ramelross dot com and I have a bunch
of my photos and other art projects on there, so yeah,
(57:54):
check them out if you're interested.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
And you've won a lot of awards too, can you share?
You don't seem like the type of person that just
brags about himself. He seemed very humble man, very centered,
But please share some of the great accolades that you've
accomplished so far.
Speaker 13 (58:09):
I think, I mean we the film have been nominated
for a bunch of best of awards.
Speaker 5 (58:13):
I think I think The.
Speaker 13 (58:16):
New Yorker, the New York Times, and The Atlantic and
Indie Wire said that we were the number one film
of the year, which is unbelievable considering how many films
are out there. But I think I was really fortunate
to be named Best Director by the New York Film
Critics Association and Best Director by London Film Critics Association.
(58:39):
But I must say, like the collaborative process is why
these projects are as powerful and as movie as they are.
And you know, I'm the director in the face of it,
but I mean hundreds of people go into this.
Speaker 8 (58:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
Nicol Boys is shown nationwide in limited theaters, so check
your local listings. If not, I'm sure it'll be available
for street. I mean hopefully soon, you know, so you'll
be able to feel what I felt. And again, wish
you the best of luck tonight. Brother, I'm praying for you,
I'm praying for this nation. This is Doug Davis listening
to the Black Perspective the Black Information Network.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
Great stuff as always, Doug, thank you, and that's our
program for this week. For more on these stories, listen
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(59:38):
everyone a great Sunday, and be sure to tune in
next week at this time for another edition of The
Black Perspective.
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