The Black Perspective: September 7, 2025

This week on the Black Perspective, BIN Anchor Andrea Coleman shares another emotional installment of Saving Black Moms, spotlighting the devastating reality of losing a child.

Alexandria Ikomoni sits down with the OMG Girlz to talk about new music, their upcoming tour, and what’s next for the group.

Misty Jordan speaks with Dorri McWhorter about how companies can step up and invest more in Black communities.

Esther Dillard interviews award-winning filmmaker Imaeyen Ibanga, whose new documentary explores how Black immigrant communities are navigating the challenges of today’s political climate.

And Doug Davis returns with "Your Black Business," featuring entrepreneur Brandon Butler, CEO of Butter ATL, a platform redefining culture and community.

Listen now!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, This is Morgan Wood with the Black Information Network.
Every year, thousands of Black families face the unbearable sorrow
of losing a mom during pregnancy or after childbirth.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Learn how you can support them in.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Bi in's special public awareness campaign, Saving Black Moms, a
Maternal health Crisis.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Black maternal health is a community issue.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Learn more on our social media platforms and at binnews
dot com.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's Sunday, September seventh, the first Sunday of the month,
and on today's show, Black Information Network anchor Andrea Coleman
is back with another installment of Saving Black Moms, where
this week we learn firsthand of the pain of losing
a child. Alexandria Camoni sits down with the OMG Girls
to talk about new music, a new tour, and more.

(00:50):
Mister Jordan talks to Dory McWherter about how companies can
do more to pour into the Black community. Esther Dillar
spoke with award winning filmmaker a Mayani Banga, whose new
documentary explores how other black immigrant communities are handling this
new administration and laws. And Doug Davis is back with
Your Black Business with entrepreneur Brandon Butler. CEO of butter

(01:12):
Ato Platform. These stories and more are coming your way
on today's program. Welcome to the Black Perspective. I'm your host,
Mike Isla.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Welcome to the Black Perspective, a weekly community affairs program
on the Black Information Network featuring interviews and discussions on
issues important to the Black community.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Good Sunday, everyone, and welcome to the Black Perspective. Every year,
maternal deaths inflict a measurable pain and grief on surviving
family members, including the mother's husband or spouse. And this
special Saving Black Mom's Report we learn firsthand of the
pain such tragedies.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Cause here's Vanessa Tyler.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
We are in the delivery room. A baby was just
welcome to the world. How the most joyous time can
also be the most tragic, Like just.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
To look at her eyes was like it was just
she had just was no longer at that.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Moment, and she was dying right before you.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
And the nurse called the cold blue and that was
the last time. Russell Christine's eyes.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
The eyes of the woman he loved closed forever. Black
Mother Christine Fields and Jose Perez have three children, one
child she had from a previous relationship who is now
being raised by her mother. Two they had together, a
little girl and the infant boy she just gave birth
to before dying. Black woman dying during childbirth or soon

(02:48):
after keeps happening. He's still in mourning the love of
his life gone. We first spoke last March.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
Jose Welcome, how you doing? Thank you for having me first?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
How are you?

Speaker 7 (03:05):
I always say, Okay, call her up, just you know,
just for what I'm really going through, which is I'm
really not okay.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's still a lot going on, obviously, It's what it's
It has been about a year and a half, right,
is that right?

Speaker 6 (03:20):
Yes, it's seventeen months now since Christine passed away.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
How are the children?

Speaker 6 (03:26):
Nova is four, she's going to be five in December.
She's doing very well. She's I just enrolled it this
year in pre k. She just started pre K this year.
She's doing very well in school. She's I say, very
smart for her age. So her teachers is like, she

(03:48):
has conversations like an eight nine year old. Already. Nova
understands that my mom's is not here. She grabs she
grabs it in a different way. She talks to the sky,
she talks to her mom. She tells him. She always
tells everyone her mom's and it's an angel. Her mom's

(04:09):
has super power. She could change her wings different colors.
Her mom is always watching over her. Her moms hasn't
left her, her mom is always here with her. Those
are the content conversations Nova has. Nobody's a very small,
intelligent person, honestly, and it's been a blessing having nob

(04:32):
Noble's what keeps me, I would say, the happiest she
it's just her sweetness and her kindness. Yeah, and then
going to the baby and you well, and you are
seventeen months old now, from what I see, he's doing.
His growth is doing. He's doing well as far as
his growth, as far as his you know, just the

(04:58):
concept of learning and every then to me seems likely
going fine.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
May I take you back to November twenty twenty three,
the time Christine was going through labor at Woodhall Hospital
in Brooklyn. She was looking forward to a natural birth.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
Yes, yes, she's definitely been looking forward to a natural birth.
She was working with a midwife. She had midwife that
worked at the hospital that she was in contact with.
Drive from our prior booth, which was LoVa and Christine
felt comfortable being around the being with her and having

(05:37):
her there on the morning of November twelve, when we
on our way to the hospital. Prior to that, Christine
had phoned her and told her that she might be
coming in on the twelve, and the midwife told her Unfortunately,
if she came in after same time, she wouldn't be
able to be there because she was working a twenty
four hour shift. So that's how we did and end

(06:00):
up having the same midwife again.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Her midwife off was like a prelude to what would
be an awful early morning sliding into a deadly day.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
At some point they say the babies, harvor the babies,
harrad the babies, and distrust its heart. Raded dropped in
this start talking about the sea section.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Sea section. That's not what Christine Shields and her fiance
jose Press planned at all. The thirty year old black
mother had two babies before she wented a natural birth. First,
her midwife was off after working a long shift. Now
the couple was faced with this, They were not sure
what to do. There was panic, especially from Christine.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
I like me the night of Christine, I really didn't
want to make a fuzz i didn't really want to
show too much energy because I wanted to be as
quam as possible. But then even then, when they were
they were telling Christine about the sea session, telling us
about the sea session, and again at Christina's crying and
I was trying to talk with Christine.

Speaker 7 (07:00):
They called a whole bunch of security to make me
feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
If you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh, we get it. He says. It's something especially black
people face, a preemptive shut up by having security lurk around,
he believes, to keep him from advocating.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
I'm not acting like, you know, like rowdy. I'm not
acting up. I'm not I'm not causing the situation. But
they quick called security to make me feel like if
I speak up or and I start getting like if
I start getting upset by any form of shape because
of what they're doing, then they would escort me out

(07:38):
the hospital. So you see how it plays out. So
if I speak up, I'm you know, I'm making it
difficult for them.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Jose Perez says he could see nurses taking notes.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
They turn around and write down in they chart that
I'm being difficult to deal with and I'm not letting
them do their job. That's a form of racism. Like,
that's a form of racism, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
So they agreed emergency see section. The baby was in distress.
It was during the operation something went very wrong. Perez says,
the obstetrician made a deadly mistake. The joy their son,
Annuel was perfect. Dad jose Bres saw him being cleaned
up for his new life journey, but his fiance back

(08:19):
in recovery was not doing well. She was dying.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
When I got back to Christine, Christine's just like now
looking very well. Her tongue is like actually looking very dry,
actually gray. Her lips are looking very ashy, and she
just didn't seem well. I asked the nurse, could I
give a water? The nurse said no, she couldn't have
water because she just had an operation. The nurse proceeded

(08:47):
to give me ice chips, told me to rub them
on her lips. When I propped Pistine's head up to
rub the ice chips on her lips, her head just
fell back to the side like that way, and I
just did look at her eyes was like it was
just she had just was no longer at that moment,
and she.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Was dying right before you, and the nurse.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
Called the cold blue and that was the last time
I saw Christine's eyes.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
In the end, it was doctor's era. An artery in
her uterine was accidentally severed, and the obstetrician who was fired,
by the way, didn't report it, and basically Christine bled
to death. Is that accurate?

Speaker 6 (09:30):
Yeah, so they did. They digged her uterine, the accidentally
cut her actually was going to procedure, proceeded not to
tell his colleagues of the accident that had happened while
doing the procedure.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
A state investigation with the New York State Department of
Health blames what happened on a troubling lapse by the
surgical team. Reports are the doctor who cut the artery
never mentioned it.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
At some point he tried to be carried. I don't
think with anyone's acknowledge knowing that that happened, and he
didn't communicate with the staff, with the rest of the staff,
or with the with the staff that was watching over her.
And they proceeded to put her in the recovery room

(10:22):
where I came in contact with her, and that's where
Christine had blood hemorrhage and she ended up passing away.
She ended up dying from internal bleeding.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
And just like that, Jose Perez was a single father.
The family is suing. The obg yn has been fired
in the hospital where other black mothers died investigated.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
There's no law that had doctors get evaluated. This is
one thing I'm pushing for. I'm pushing for a law
for doctors to get evaluated after a certain maternal mortality case.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
What happened Thrus Perez from father protector to family advocate.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
Is definitely something I take on because of Christine. I
love Christine so much. I have so much love for Christine.
I think I cannot sit back and advocate for like
I have to advocate for Christine. I really have to.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Even in his grief, he is fighting for fathers left
to fend for themselves and the black mothers who are
still dying.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
I'm pushing the greed and Families that Governor Hogo Beetle
the Greedings Families Act three times, you know, and the
Greeding's Families that covers you know, families, mothers and family
members getting compensated to ron for death case for you know,
for pain and suffering, for grief and anguish, and you

(11:45):
know New York State doesn't have a law that you
know that will all people accountable in that nature which
a lord too is not getting justice.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
A lot of.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
People say, hey, get a lawyer, your father in lawsuit,
a laws who is not justice a losso just this
a small fraction of to me is like a family
proven what happened, and just really people being held accountable.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
He wants us all to take up this fight to
get passage of the Grieving Family Act. Get involved wherever
you live. Go to Movement to Birthliberation dot com for
more information. Also, Jose does have a GoFundMe page Justice
for Christine Fields and Jose Peres seven poet eight bk

(12:32):
on Instagram. He could use words of encouragement because again,
it has not been easy.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
I've been trying.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
Honestly, I'm trying. I'm trying. I show a strongness on
the outside, but on the inside, my heart is so broken,
like honestly speaking, like honestly speaking, like I feel like
every day every day when I wake up, I feel
like I got hit.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
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Speaker 3 (13:00):
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The OMG Girls a group overseen by Tamika Tiny Harris

(13:22):
which includes her and t I's daughters Anique, as well
as other members Brianna and Vasia. They are back together
and are taking things to a new level, especially after
their seventy one million dollar award was brought down to
one dollar. The Black Information That Works Alexandria Ikimoni spoke
to the Black Girl R and B group. Here is
part one of their conversation.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
What's up guy, that's a girl.

Speaker 8 (13:43):
Alexandria Ikamoni and the studio iHeartRadio with OMG the OMG Girl.
We have zon Nique, Yes, how are you well? Happy
to have you in studio.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 9 (13:55):
Yes.

Speaker 8 (13:56):
Now we have Brianna helloly hiy, happy to have you.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
The hair too, fiery with the little purple pink. We
love it absolutely and Beija. How you doing girl? I'm
doing good? Yes, happy to have you in studio. Yeah,
I'm excited to be here. Here we are.

Speaker 8 (14:12):
I'm excited to have you guys. I mean, I've known
about the OMG Girl since my younger days. So super
happy to have you guys in studio to talk about
getting back together, you know, doing great things right now.
Because we have a tour coming up, we do tell
us what fans can expect from this upcoming tour.

Speaker 10 (14:29):
Our fans can definitely expect a real OMG experience.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
If you can't, if you've.

Speaker 10 (14:35):
Come to one of our shows before, it's definitely we're
taking them back. Yes, and definitely you know, high energy,
a lot of.

Speaker 11 (14:45):
You know, nostalgic, but it's still mature. It's reminiscent of
what people have known us for. But I think people
are about to see a whole different side of us.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, we haven't seen absolutely, And I'm gonna, oh, go
ahead if you want to add something.

Speaker 12 (15:01):
I was just gonna say. The elevation is gonna be shown.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
We love that. We can't wait to see that for sure.

Speaker 8 (15:05):
And we're gonna dive a little bit deeper into the
newer sound, the elevated sound that you guys have. But
I first wanted to start back a little further. First,
you guys disbanded in twenty fifteen then came back together.
What happened and why did you guys decide to regroup
and make new music in this time?

Speaker 10 (15:23):
Well, we for one with us, like we never said
that we were not going to make music together, but
in the moment, we all wanted to do separate things.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
And you know, we have been together since.

Speaker 10 (15:35):
We were like twelve and just our young ages, so
every everybody were you know, growing up maturing. He was like,
you know, everybody want to do a little bit growing
of our separately.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, grow a little growing separately.

Speaker 10 (15:47):
But it made it a lot better with us getting
back together because everybody is so like far ahead when
it comes to what we all do individually. Everybody brings
a better element to the group now now that like
everybody is stronger individually, which makes us stronger together. And
we just felt like this was the perfect time to

(16:07):
you know, do some do something for our fans. We
were going through our lawsuit, and I feel like it
gave us a time to just be together because we
were always talking about like we.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Should do this to come back, or we should start
you know, recording.

Speaker 10 (16:20):
But I think everybody schedules, everybody's just into doing their
own things. So being together for the court, I met
for the.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Lawsuit really for the court. I'm just really we was.

Speaker 10 (16:31):
Just like, you know, let's let's start now, like we're
together every day, let's get in the studio. And it
just kind of happened like that.

Speaker 12 (16:39):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I love that.

Speaker 8 (16:41):
And we're also going to talk about the lawsuit. Of course,
what you guys can say about that, because we all
jaw dropped when we heard that. You know, it was
decrease and reduced in amount. But we will talk about
first if we can. We aren't teens anymore. We know this.
Like I said, I've known you guys. I've known the
group since back in the day. But the sound is
a little bit different now as we're older, right, So

(17:02):
how would you guys describe the sound that you guys
have today today?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I would say just more mature and reflective.

Speaker 11 (17:10):
Of who we are, Me and the girls. We have
a hand in all of the creative process. We have
months to kind of create what we wanted to sound
like as adults, and so even when we go when
we work with different songwriters and producers. It's like we're
bringing them into our world and we're able to kind
of let them know, like, hey, this is what we want,
opposed to like them creating a.

Speaker 12 (17:31):
Sound for us.

Speaker 11 (17:32):
And like when we were younger, Untie Tamika did a
lot of like our song selection and just like hey,
I think y'all should cut this, or hey I think
this should be changed.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
And now we kind of.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Come to her and be like, okay, and see what
you think about this song? What you you know what
I mean, like how you like this?

Speaker 11 (17:45):
So I think that now it's just more reflective of
who we are. Still fun, it's still upbeat, it's still
all the elements that make og OMG, but it's just
has a real personal touch on it from us Me
and Zignie engineer.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
We all write Breeze learn how to engineer, so.

Speaker 11 (18:01):
You really get a real feel of like us, it's
just all around artists, not just going into booth and
recording a song.

Speaker 12 (18:07):
I love it?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Anybody else want to add to that? Or I love that?
And what else? Was like you really? You guys ate
this up? It's the newest song.

Speaker 8 (18:19):
Tea, yes, but let's talk about it. Why did you
guys decide to put out this record.

Speaker 13 (18:31):
Well, you know, it's the summertime, so we wanted to
put out something with some high energy. Get the girls dancing.
Sorry but my voice, get the girls dancing and do
their things very rast.

Speaker 12 (18:40):
I love her. Yeah yeah, So Tea is produced by
Tommy Brown.

Speaker 13 (18:44):
We asked Sarn and Blue on it to write too,
but we all came in collectively and did our thing. Also,
we had other producers there, can't think of their names
right now, but it was a great team of people.
It was such a vibe. It was while we were
out in l A and we made this song and
we felt it. As soon as we hear the beat,
we knew it was the one. So as soon as
we heard it, we were like, we got to put
this out so, you know, to motivate people to love themselves,

(19:05):
of your bodies, because it is sea is.

Speaker 12 (19:07):
Being you, not on you. So Shan bray like you are,
because it's any baby.

Speaker 8 (19:10):
I love that absolutely anything else you want to add
to that. Thanks listening, you guys are really hitting it
on the head.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Thanks. I'm absolutely here for it. So we have the single.

Speaker 8 (19:20):
Of course, other singles have been put out, but what
about an upcoming album or EP.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Can we expect that anytime soon?

Speaker 10 (19:27):
You know, we have been talking about a project. We're
not sure if it's going to be an album first,
because we we it will be our first full body
of work that will put out. But we have been
working really hard on the project and we've been recording
a lot of good music, so you.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Know, sooner than later. Yeah, we'll put all the pieces
together to put out the project.

Speaker 10 (19:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (19:49):
I love that.

Speaker 8 (19:50):
And you guys are mentioning to mek tiny working with her.
Of course she oversees what you guys do first, starting
with you, Zai, what is it like really working with
your mom in this way? Because she oversees you know what,
It's an experience every day something different, And I feel
like I've definitely learned how to cope with like her
giving me critiques and because she's very like a perfect

(20:14):
she's really a perfectionist and she watches two critique which
what she should do.

Speaker 10 (20:19):
But it's like she's my mom, so it's like, yeah,
when I was younger, I really like my feelings used
to be her. But now just like I see that
she's just always wanted the big you know, she's looking
at the bigger picture.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
So I you know, it's I've learned how to deal
with Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 8 (20:36):
And I've interviewed Tinya a couple of times and she
always just talks. When she talks about the group, you
can feel like the mom energy. So what is it
like having that, you know, figure really helped mold you
guys within the group as well.

Speaker 11 (20:50):
I mean she's just always been very passionate about us
from the start.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I mean, you know, we are her brain child.

Speaker 11 (20:57):
This was her idea and really pretty much every facet
of the group when it comes down to like our look,
our sound, you know, she had a direct hand in.
So I think just being able to be up underneath
her and kind of really learn from somebody who is
like a multi platinum selling artist and she's a Grammy
Award with his songwriter. It's like the things and the

(21:20):
knowledge that she's given us is like stuff you can't
even go pay for, you know. And I think, like
Nika says, she is very critical. She's very like, you know,
a perfectionist when it comes to us, but I think
we're like her passion project and whenever it comes to OMG,
whatever it is that needs to be done, however it
needs to get done, She's always.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
Gonna do it.

Speaker 12 (21:42):
She's gonna lay it all on the line.

Speaker 11 (21:43):
So we definitely appreciate it, and it's really catapulted us
to where we are right now.

Speaker 12 (21:49):
Yeah, we love her so much.

Speaker 13 (21:50):
Shou out to aunt Tito to me, cause she's everything
and more and she treats us all the same.

Speaker 12 (21:55):
She makes sure everybody looks in bed.

Speaker 13 (21:56):
She don't want nobody like linking one way or another,
and she wants only the best for us and you
can feel that in every way she gets it.

Speaker 8 (22:02):
Yeah, so you can definitely feel that with her. So
shout out to her for doing her thing with the
OMG and she obviously her anti. I mean, you guys
all were a part of this lawsuit. You rewarded seventy
one mil and then it dropped down two one dollar
from what I was reading.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
What can you guys say?

Speaker 11 (22:21):
I don't know how much we can say, but I
do know that we will always fight for what's ours.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
The fight is not over. We will keep going until
we can't go no more.

Speaker 11 (22:32):
And you know that's just what it is. We have
an amazing team of lawyers. They are awesome. They have
become like family to us. They have now become fans
of the group from just having to.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Do all the you know, the research and stuff.

Speaker 11 (22:44):
And I think that everybody feels so passionately about just
the fact that you.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Know, this was clear.

Speaker 11 (22:51):
You know it was clear and it was concise, and
so I think because of that reason, we're gonna keep going.
We're gonna keep going until we can't go no more.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Exactly anything else you want to add to that.

Speaker 12 (23:01):
We didn't come as far as the companys war.

Speaker 14 (23:03):
I did it.

Speaker 8 (23:04):
You did it when you got the news of it
being dropped from seventy one mil to a dollar.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
What were your thoughts. I went into a fire mode immediately.
We gotta fight this.

Speaker 10 (23:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (23:15):
The daily first thing is like keep going like they
didn't make it like discourage or anything. It's just like
kind of question mark, question mark question mark. Yeah, now
time to put a period to it.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, I get okay.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Thanks Alexandra and the OMG Girls. Tune in next week.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
For part two of their conversation.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
It's been said giving in the black community goes back centuries,
as the community we have come together to fundraise for
everything from the little league football teams and even Christmas
gifts for children less fortunate. However, on a larger scale,
how can companies partner in fundraising? We talked with a
black president and CEO who gives us an inside look

(23:55):
on how thinking big can yield a big impact.

Speaker 14 (23:59):
I'm mister Jordan on your Home for twenty four to
seven News. The Black Information Network Executives Clubs of Chicago
is one of America's top business forms where passionate leaders
come together. It's been called the nexus of Chicago's business community.
They work with nonprofit and for profit businesses to create
communities within the business community. Joining me is Dory mccorter,

(24:21):
the President and CEO of the Executive's Clubs of Chicago.
It doesn't take long to pick up on the passion
that Dorry has for fundraising. Thank you so much for
joining us. Dorry, talk to me about your background as
it relates to fundraising.

Speaker 15 (24:35):
I have a very diverse background. I started my career,
as I like to say, in the late nineteen hundreds
at Arthur Anderson in the public accounting space. And I'll
have to say that for me when I think about, yes, fundraising,
but all business development, all fundraising is based on relationships
and I go back that far because I felt that

(24:58):
I brought was brought up in an environment from a
work perspective that really emphasize the importance of relationships. And
when you're looking to fundraise or think about philanthropy or
any of that, you can't do that without having solid
relationships to build upon.

Speaker 14 (25:13):
What is a typical day for you in the fundraising space.

Speaker 16 (25:16):
At the Executives Club?

Speaker 15 (25:17):
I think it's a little different, right when we say fundraising,
that could be lots of different ways we think about it.
And I think at the Executive's Club, I think about
our fundraising is more business development. How are we understanding
what we do that the partners that we work with
find value in. Therefore they're willing to support us and
sponsor the organization through their resources.

Speaker 16 (25:39):
On a day to day basis.

Speaker 15 (25:41):
My role is to make sure that I'm understanding what
our partners need, what they find important, and prioritize.

Speaker 16 (25:46):
In making sure that we are aligning with that.

Speaker 15 (25:48):
Therefore then they will fill they can support us with
their resources.

Speaker 14 (25:53):
What's a good starting point for a fundraising conversation?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
For me?

Speaker 15 (25:57):
The first thing is really understanding who you're speaking with,
because you can't go into that type of a conversation
without knowing what is the priorities for those that individual
and how then you align with those priorities and be
ready to flex or to be flexible, not flex on
the life, but to be flexible. I should say, when

(26:21):
you hear something that could be of interest to them
and you're like, oh, I hadn't heard that before, and
then start to think yourself around, then what is it
you do that aligns with that?

Speaker 16 (26:31):
Because to me, it's all about a match.

Speaker 15 (26:33):
I always say that if you do this right, you
never have to ask, because you inspire people by aligning
with what they care about and they know generally that
you are there to ask for resources. And so if
you inspire them, they're going to do the most they

(26:55):
can or what they've already thought in their mind, They're
going to allocate to this topic or to this issue.
It's about inspiration, not just about asking.

Speaker 14 (27:04):
Joining Us is president and CEO of Executives Club of Chicago.
I've heard you speak about charity mindset versus a social
enterprise mindset. Can you break down the difference for us?

Speaker 16 (27:15):
Absolutely?

Speaker 15 (27:16):
You know, to me, it's the difference between you know,
literally asking for then this is for me, the charity
mindset is asking for something because that's what you need,
which is important, or asking for something or inspiring someone
to contribute in a way that to your point, they can.

Speaker 16 (27:33):
Own and bring the value of that forward.

Speaker 15 (27:37):
And to me, it's a it's a difference between buying
something versus investing in something.

Speaker 14 (27:42):
Right, Yeah, it's a.

Speaker 15 (27:43):
Different sort of ownership. Right one is sort of consumption based.

Speaker 16 (27:48):
You that it's done well.

Speaker 15 (27:50):
If I give to you from a charity perspective, you know,
I'm theoretically paying for that service to be performed and
it's done. But I'm investing if I if I provide
I doe resources to invest in you knowing that you're
trying to accomplish these big, lofty goals, whether it's an
issue that you're trying to alleviate something or if you're
trying to give people access to something that to me

(28:13):
just takes on a different form. Therefore I have there
is a true invested engagement in that versus just like here,
take my money, we're done. It's more transactional versus I
really am investing for the long term success of whatever
we're bringing it to the table.

Speaker 14 (28:29):
Can you give us some ideas on the best way
to approach fundraising in the black community.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Sure, well, So first.

Speaker 15 (28:35):
Of all, I would say, don't think of it as
a pitch, right, think of it as engaging someone in
what's important for them and you and let them see
the benefit of what you're presenting for themselves as well.
You know, we presume that people do it because they

(28:57):
want to give back or give to others, but to
be honest, there's still something very valuable that people are
receiving from that, whether it's a good feeling or whatever
it is, or it's the outcome that they now know
that they've contributed to something greater than themselves.

Speaker 16 (29:14):
So I think our role in particularly in.

Speaker 15 (29:16):
The black community, because I do think that we have
a legacy of storytelling, so we can get to the
heart of the matter and really speak from the heart.
So it's less about pitching in the sense of this
is my great idea, you should help me, and more
about this is a journey that we are on together
and you can be a part of that, and let

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us show you and let us talk about why and
how this is meaningful not only to the community we're
trying to impact, but how that impact is also meaningful
for you. We have to bring people in to our
world to help folks understand what the opportunities are. We
need to make this a team sport doing everything by ourselves.

Speaker 14 (30:00):
Yeah, it sends us back to creating community that can
help communities.

Speaker 16 (30:04):
Absolutely, absolutely, you know.

Speaker 15 (30:07):
But I think what happens we often go into these
conversations thinking they have something that we need versus we
actually have something that.

Speaker 14 (30:14):
We all need and we can help each other.

Speaker 16 (30:17):
And we can absolutely help each other.

Speaker 14 (30:18):
And if someone wants to reach out to you because
they want to have you speak to their organization or
they want to partner with you, how are they get
in contact with you?

Speaker 16 (30:27):
Sure?

Speaker 15 (30:28):
So we have set up an email at the Executives
Club and we call it ideas at Executives Club dot org.
So we want to use that as our outreach to
communities to say, hey, if there's thoughts or if there's
requests that you have from us, send it to us
and ideas at Executives Club dot org.

Speaker 14 (30:45):
Why do you do this story?

Speaker 16 (30:47):
Oh God, we have to.

Speaker 15 (30:54):
We have to make the world a better place, right
and we can do that and we all have the
power to do that. We all have the opportunity to
do more than ourselves. I'll say there was I never
liked the word giving back because well, there was a
CEO in Brazil.

Speaker 16 (31:11):
He said it best.

Speaker 15 (31:12):
He said, if you have to give it back, that
means you took too much to begin with. And so
I actually like the thought of how do we contribute
what we have and the capability that we have to
make the world a better place, and we all can
contribute something, so we don't have to have reached a
certain level to then give back.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
We're paying it forward.

Speaker 14 (31:35):
You are not paying it back.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
We're paying it forward, right, all the time, all the time.
I love that.

Speaker 14 (31:41):
During mccorter, president and CEO of the Executive's Club of Chicago,
thank you so much for joining b I in this afternoon.
I appreciate it. It's been wonderful meeting you and speaking
with you and hearing your amazing stories. If someone wants
to contact you specifically, is their way or they should
follow you on social sites?

Speaker 16 (31:58):
Yes, absolutely follow me. I'm really easy to I'm Dory mcporter.

Speaker 15 (32:01):
And as I mentioned the ideas at Executives Club, I actually.

Speaker 16 (32:04):
Checked that's my dollbox. I'm just like, no, I got
this one. I'm checking this one.

Speaker 14 (32:12):
Thank you so much and continued success to you, and
thank you for all the work that you're doing to
support our community specifically, continue success.

Speaker 16 (32:20):
Thank you the same to you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Thank you.

Speaker 14 (32:23):
I'm Misty Jordan on the Black Information Network.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Thank you, Misty, and thank you, Dory mcwarter. For more
information on the Executives Club of Chicago, you can go
to their website at Executives Club dot org. You can
follow Misty Jordan and share story ideals with her on
Instagram at Misdyjradio. This past week, we've seen chilling images
ice agents and masks writing and unmarked cars snatching people

(32:49):
off the streets. These tactics have left immigrant community shaken.
On the black perspective, the Black Information That Works Esther
Dillard spoke with award winning filmmaker Emiami Banga, whose documentary
series exposes how these same policies are hitting Haitian immigrants
and why their story is too often left out of
the national conversation.

Speaker 17 (33:12):
Almost always, when people talk about it, they specifically think
of brown and Hispanic people, maybe sometimes Asians, but very rarely,
if ever.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Black people.

Speaker 9 (33:24):
On this edition of the Color Between the Lines, we're
speaking with journalists and documentary filmmaker Emyan Ebanka. Emayan and
I first met back in May at the Graci's Awards
in La She had won an award for her amazing
series on the Haitian crisis and what's happening now. And
although our conversation happened months ago, I really believe that

(33:47):
it's a wake up call to many who are watching
what's happening with ice and deportations in cities across the country. So,
without further ado, let's jump into the conversation. Thank you
Emiani for joining us on the Color between the Lines.
Your award winning YouTube series zip Codes is just an

(34:07):
absolute jewel.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I loved it. It's deep, it's.

Speaker 9 (34:11):
Urgent, it's beautifully reported, and I'm so glad that you
were able to speak to me about it. One of
the stories that really just really caught my eye was
that Two Parts special that you won the award for
that I met you at the Gray Sies Awards and
you talked about it, and I was just intrigued. I

(34:31):
want to ask the first thing, what inspired you to
even do or to delve into the Haitian crisis and
what was going on in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Right, that's a great question.

Speaker 17 (34:45):
Thank you so much, first of all for having me.
You know, zip Codes is very much about taking the
macro and making it the micro, and so we're always
looking for really interesting stories and one of the things
that came on our radar was sort of but I
don't know if you remember at the time, just before
this happened, there were some I believe black Americans who

(35:08):
had crossed over the border into Mexico and found themselves
in a particular situation because people had perceived them as
being Haitian and so they.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Had been targeted.

Speaker 17 (35:21):
And this had kind of been a story that became
more major in terms of the US audience, and so
that was maybe like the first sort of tiny ping
that put it like on my radar. And then a
producer also came up and was like, hey, there is
like more to what is happening here, which has caused me,

(35:41):
which caused me to delve into it even more. And
the more I saw on, the more I read and research,
I was like, oh, because I already knew. You know,
I'm a first generation American, I am the child of immigrants.
I've always had an interest in kind of immigration and
diasporas and stories like that, and so watching sort of

(36:05):
this last decade in particular, the evolution of that conversation.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Has been interesting to me.

Speaker 17 (36:10):
And it's almost always when people talk about it, they
specifically think of brown Hispanic people, maybe sometimes Asians, but
very rarely, if ever, black people. And so that is
what made me want to do this story. Haiti, you know,
is in crisis. It's teetering on the verge of collapse.

(36:33):
Not just because of the things that happened on you know,
that particular side of the island where they were, but
it is generations and centuries of history that have brought
Haiti to this moment, these people to this place. It's
not by happenstance, and so that's why I think I
wanted to do it and explore there, and then having

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it be on both sides of the border, I thought
was a really good way to showcase that you're in Mexico,
you know, on the Mexican side, we're like, Okay, these
are Haitians looking for the American dream in Mexico. And
then those who have made it into the United States,
what does that look like? And that journey is not
easy and it's not over. And just as we've seen

(37:17):
in the last six months under the new administration, the
concept of that even though this piece just came out
literally a year ago, it's totally upended what it would
look like to do that story in the same way today.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
You know.

Speaker 9 (37:37):
I was thinking when all this was going on with
Ice Snow, you know, doing mass deportations and going after
people in parking lots and in grocery stores and such.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I wondered what was going through.

Speaker 9 (37:53):
Your mind about you know, your series and if anybody
watches it, what would you want them to I guess
take away from that series that connects to what is
happening right now, because it was a lot in your
series that you rate.

Speaker 18 (38:10):
You know.

Speaker 17 (38:11):
I mean, seeing how the US government has decided to
enforce its interpretation of immigration law, to me has been
really fascinating.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I knew that this year was going to be highly.

Speaker 17 (38:26):
Focused on immigration, I couldn't imagined like what it looked like.
So even to me, that has been like a surprise that, yes,
I was right to have an interest in immigration, but
couldn't have foreseen, you know, how it would play out.
And the first thing I think, I want people to
get is that connection that.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Immigration and immigrants. It's not just one race.

Speaker 17 (38:49):
People of all races immigrate here, and oftentimes that designation
of race is given to them when they get here.
Offer didn't like to give an example of like, you know,
I'm Nigerian America and my parents didn't become black until
they came to the US, because in Nigeria, everybody's black,

(39:11):
So you're going by ethnic and tribal designations and divisions.
You're not like, this is black, right, and how that
changes your interaction and perception of things, which is really
interesting when you're going from these cultures that might be
a sort of monolithic in race, but not in ethnicity, right.

(39:31):
And so I think that would be the first thing
to open up and broaden the idea of who and
what immigrants are, what they look like, and what their
experiences are. And that even when we're talking about immigration
in the US, regardless of how you feel about it,
being black has a specific impact. There's still racism within

(39:55):
that process and within how people treat you, a specific
type of ai black racism, you know, not just sort
of racism in general. That affects these people in their lives,
and so that's one of the things I was hoping
people would connect with, and also the idea. I think
that a lot of times people are like, well, why
can't you go back to your own.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Country or why isn't your country functional?

Speaker 17 (40:19):
And the US has had a hand in what happened
to Haiti. Yes, it started, as you know, a colony
of enslaved people by the French, and when it freed itself,
it was the you know, first nation to do so.
I remember one of the people in the documentary, Girleen Josef,

(40:39):
who's a Haitian.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Asian American who immigrated here as a teen.

Speaker 17 (40:45):
She says, you know, Haiti has been paying the price
for freeing itself from a savement ever since. For how
many decades did they have to pay France back the
money because they were like, okay, well you have to
pay us because we're not getting these in people. And
when you turn that into twenty twenty five dollars, that's

(41:05):
billions of dollars that, right, you've paid to this other
nation which could have been invested here in this like
island nation. You know, Haiti sits on Hispaniola, which it
shares with the Dominican Republic, right and so even that
country is deporting people to Haiti, they famously have you know,

(41:28):
the word beef is the only one, and that comes
to mind in terms of that, but that feels too
to slide and too flip it. But maybe disagreements and
things like that. Even though you know, by US standards,
right we would see Dominicans as black, but many Dominicans,
even when they immigrate here, do not see themselves as black.
And all of these people are on this island, you know,

(41:52):
with this border, borders are lined just drawn by people
at different times through history. So many of these people
might be an are connected if we looked at it
like genetically or ethnically, But now it's different.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And so.

Speaker 17 (42:08):
It really puts Haiti in.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
A really delicate place, made even more.

Speaker 17 (42:16):
Delicate by the fact that the US right now has
said it's too dangerous for people like me and you
to travel too. And yet Donald Trump just a couple
of weeks ago said it's safe for them to go back,
it's safe for them to be sent there, And so
now it looks more likely that that's something that could happen.

Speaker 9 (42:34):
I want to go back to where you were talking
about the difference between black folks who deal with racism
in this country. One line in your film that kind
of really stuck with me was the US response to
Haitian migrants is always met with violence.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
That was one of the persons who's one person.

Speaker 9 (42:58):
Yeah, I just wondered if you could maybe just unpack
a little bit of how you saw that play out
in your reporting and how does it tie to where
we are today.

Speaker 17 (43:09):
I think one of the things that was really stunning
a few years ago you may remember and the audience
might remember, seeing these images along the Texas border of
these people, you.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Know asylees, like you know.

Speaker 17 (43:21):
Migrants trying to seek help coming in and seeing border
patrol immigration officials on horseback and what looked like whipping,
like literally the whipping of the leasha on the horse
and going after these black people, and that looks you know.

(43:41):
I think we showed also in the piece they're depictions
by hand like drawings from times of enslavement that look
very similar, and I think that really sort of stunned people,
and the idea that the US is solo in that
kind of reaction to them, and also the disparity when

(44:04):
it comes to race isn't true. We talk to people
on the Mexican side of the border who said they
were deliberately targeted because unlike other migrants who are coming
from other Latin American countries who were brown or maybe
even white Hispanic people who are in those countries, the
black people stood out more. They're like, oh, we assume

(44:27):
you are not from here, because we do not expect
people to be black and in Mexico, and so they
have become targeted, so, you know, targeted for kidnappings, targeted
for other types of violence. So every stage of their
journey they're experiencing violence, starting you know, in Haiti in

(44:48):
the capitol right now, I believe ninety percent of port
prints is controlled by armed groups.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
So even getting in and out of there, the audience might.

Speaker 17 (44:58):
Recall not to long ago when I believe it was
a Spirit's Airline flight was shot at during landing, well
maybe not specifically aimed at, but was hit by gunfire
during landing. So there is violence all throughout the Haitian
migrant story.

Speaker 9 (45:17):
If you'd like to hear the rest of that conversation,
please head over to the Color Between the Lines YouTube channel,
or the iHeartRadio podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Esther Dillard.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
That was documentary filmmakery a Mayana Banga, whose YouTube series
zip Codes has earned a critical acclaim for its powerful storytelling.
You can watch the full series on YouTube by searching
zip Codes and Haitian Crisis. Coming up, Doug Davis returns
with another segment of Your Black Business. Doug speaks with
a former tech engineer now one of the hottest black

(45:52):
business podcasters coming out of Atlanta, and it's gaining a
lot of steam.

Speaker 8 (45:57):
Doug.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Hey, thanks Mike, this is Doug Davis act with Your
Black Business. Today. We had with us Brandon Butler, the
CEO of Butler at L and host of the podcast
titled butter Nomics, The Business of Culture That's exploding on
the iHeartMedia app. The podcast, based out of Atlanta, Georgia,
puts the spotlight on black entrepreneurs while uplifting the architects

(46:19):
of black legacy, from HBCU leaders to nightlife curators to
viral media strategists. Brandon's guests reflect the full spectrum of
black innovation. Welcome to the bi N and Your Black Business, Brandon.
So let's jump in. So Brandon, tell us a little
bit about yourself. First, you know, and how you got
involved in podcasting and this amazing concept you have for

(46:40):
your podcast.

Speaker 18 (46:41):
Yeah. Absolutely. I mean I've grown up in atlanta've been
here my whole life, and you know, the big thing
I noticed growing up is just that Atlanta doesn't always
get a chance to tell its own stories. We always
talk about Atlanta culture and all the things that are
happening down here, but so often you get out of town,
you know, people and media coming and you know, kind
of telling their version of Atlanta. And so when I
started Butter atl the whole idea behind it was just

(47:03):
you know, highlighting the people that make Atlanta special, the
places and the things, and really just you know, giving
us giving us our own platform to tell it own stories.
And so the city has really embraced it. It's grown
from more than just social media content and the events
and activations, and you know, it's been an interestant path.
You know, I started off as a software engineer almost
twenty years ago for the first half of my career

(47:25):
and then started pivoting in the marketing. So just using
all those skills right now to build something that really
matters for the city of Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
Right, great, So, who are some of the big you
know folks that you've had on your show that have
national recognition.

Speaker 18 (47:39):
We've had folks like, you know, the one knowly mister
John O'Brien has been on, Mayor Andre Dickens, Ryan Wilson,
the CEO of the Gathering Spot, Melissa Proctor to see
him over the Atlanta Hawks, and just tons of people
have come on and just kind of tell amazing stories
about the things they've built in culture and how they're
kind of making an impact not just here in Atlanta,
but you know, all around the country.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
What do you feel are the overall obstacles that you know,
black entrepreneurs and founders face when they're trying to get
a startup going, you know what I mean?

Speaker 18 (48:11):
Yeah, man, Look, the number one thing, to be honest
with you, is access to capital. You know, I think
for a lot of black entrepreneurs and a lot of
black founders, you know, we don't necessarily have the deep
resources that a lot of other folks have. You know,
it's not as much more difficult for us to raise money,
especially for black female founders, and so that's probably the biggest,
you know issue that a lot of you know, black
founders and black you know entrepreneurs run into is just

(48:33):
making sure they have access to capital to not only
build these ideas up and make businesses, but also to
be able to employ people. I think I saw the
stat that almost ninety percent of most black owned businesses
don't employ anyone. And one of the biggest drivers of
wealth in our communities is employment. And so, you know,
again like having access to those funds and capital that
needed to really build a sustainable business, but also to

(48:54):
be able to employ people in our own communities and
make sure that money gets reinvested as a big is
a big thing. So again, like even when we talk
to the people that come on the podcast, it's not
just about you know, how do you go out and
get a loan or get a you know, get a
credit card. I think it's also about being very intentional
about the business models that people create. And so that's
why we really dive into when we have these people

(49:15):
along that are running you know, six and seven and
eight figure businesses, you know, what are some of the
things that you all have done in the past have
helped kind of do what I always kind of call
velocity to a dollar and really help fund the business
so they can stay around.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
What are you hearing right now from black women and
their plight to be successful and their barriers that they're
looking to overcome as entrepreneurs.

Speaker 18 (49:36):
Yeah, I mean it's tough, man, for lots of different reasons,
I think. You know, obviously, one is just you know,
getting the right group of people to kind of believe
in them, and it really kind of helps support them.
I mean, the you know, the facts have been out
there for years that black women are some of the
most you know, educated folks out here on the planet,
and they're really building things and making things happen. But
at the same time, when they try to go to
some of these more traditional sources of you know, capital

(49:58):
and funding, they kind of get the door slamming their face.
And it's a very kind of common thing, not to mention,
just you know, not getting the necessarily follow up that
they should deserve, not getting the respect they deserve in
different areas, and just kind of seen is you know,
not being able to necessarily do business on the scale
of a lot of guys out here, which is completely untrue.
So but again, you know, what I do see happening though,

(50:19):
is as always, you know, I love black women. They
do an amazing job. They're always finding newing, creative ways
to kind of stay ahead. They really, you know, are
the backbone of so many things, and so they're not
just building these businesses, but a lot of them are helping,
you know, raise families and helping raise communities and helping
making sure that people are coming together. And so what
I've seen for a lot of them is you know,
finding ways to come together. I've seen them you know,

(50:41):
pivoting to again like things that really have a really
you know, straightforward business model to it, and it also
just can really active in the community. You Know. One
thing I will definitely say is, especially when it comes
to social media and stuff like that and building these businesses,
there's a tremendous you know urge and support black women,
and so the communities that they build, you know, especially online,
just give them the opportunity to really make something special

(51:04):
and kind of go around those those traditional routes. And
then at the same time too, they're looking for non
traditional ways of funding. You know, I've had people that
have come on that have you know, essentially you know,
done kickstarter campaigns and equity croudsourcing campaigns that even raise
the funds on their own and not and kind of
go the route without needing the vcs and the big
dollars to come in and just say, you know what,
we'll do ourselves. And so, you know, like always, man,

(51:27):
you know a lot of the frustrations that you know
they run into and that we all run to just
lead to us finding new ways to be innovative. You know,
that's the most the things that a lot of black
folks got in common, man, is we have the ability
to be creative and innovative and kind of creates solutions
out of nothing. And I'm seeing that more and more.
But at the same time, man, just to maagine what
would happened if you know, they really did do the

(51:48):
support they needed, you know, if they're doing all this
stuff by just making it happen and making the best
out of nothing. And you know, once we kind of
get people in a place that actually get them the support,
I mean, the the results are going to be amazing.
And so I'm really excited about that that.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Do you talk about financial literacy on the show?

Speaker 18 (52:03):
Absolutely, We've had polks someone talk about financial literacy. I Mean,
at this point, I always say it's a given. So
when people do come on we try to find different
ways to talk about it. We recently had an attorney
coming on talking about how to start a trust for
your family, and so again there's lots of aspects of
financial literacy, and you know, when we have people that
come on to definitely deal in that space, we one
hundred percent make it a point to make sure people

(52:23):
walk away with some good nuggets.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
In this political climate that we're in, and even prior
to you know, and as we kind of digressive bit,
as I digress a bit, it's always been tough for
black founders to get that capital. We spoke that's the
biggest challenge, right, but you know, today we have a
substantial amount of successful black business folks, some billionaires, whether

(52:50):
they're entertainers or you know, some folks like you had mentioned, Uh,
you know John ho'briant, you know, may not be a billionaire,
but it's probably pretty close. What's your take going cooperative
economics in the black community and not having to, let's say,
rely on white VC firms to find our capital.

Speaker 18 (53:11):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's that's I think that's critical.
You know again, like I think we have to start
looking to our own communities. You know, having our own
you know, financial infrastructure, our own banks or own credit union,
their own access to capital. I mean, that's just the
reality that we live in. And again, you see what
happens when you know people, you know, black people specifically
have those access, they're able to get those things and

(53:31):
make unique things happen. I think also too, even the
climate that we know, things are happening in Washington, d C.
And stuff like that, there's still ways to kind of
like reading between the lines and find opportunities. But in
the day, you know, nobody's gonna save us but ourselves.
And so I think again, like when you look at
other communities, how they've been able to build up not
just their own you know, you know areas and infrastructure,

(53:53):
but they've also built up that financial infrastructure to go
along with it. You know, out here in Atlanta there
are you know, Asian communities that have their own banks
and stuff like that, and that just allows them to
pull back into those communities. And so I think for us,
it's it's looking at that. And again that's a great
example of what even John O'Brien talking on the podcast
and him to be one of the biggest private leinners
of black Americans, Like, once we start opening that access

(54:14):
to those funds and capital really about some amazing things.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Yeah, that would be great because I was just going
to ask you. I mean, like, have you asked that
that question to some of your you know, your super
wealthy guests, you know what their thoughts on you know,
it's just it's like a I'm not going to say
it's a dream of mine, but I mean, you know,
with with so many wealthy African Americans right now, I
really feel that behind closed doors, man, there needs to

(54:39):
be a coalition. You know, we don't have to advertise it.
It just needs to be a coalition.

Speaker 18 (54:44):
Man.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
So I don't know, it just it just bothers me. Man,
Any final thoughts and then if you could just wrap
up and share with our listeners how they can enjoy
your podcasts.

Speaker 18 (54:54):
Yeah, man, Again, like you know, we built button Nomage
to be able to, you know, tell these kind of
stories and help give people access to information, sh't resources
in a relatable way. And so I really hope that
people come on and enjoy the podcast. There's a lot
of amazing guests and conversations, and you know, everybody that
comes on there, I feel like you'll leave with something,
so definitely come check it out and for those that
want to listen, you know, definitely, you know, we can
find us at button nomics anyway that anywhere that you

(55:16):
get your podcasts, you can search up buttteronomics dot com
for our website get everything there. We'll all streaming platforms
and we're on YouTube as well. If you type in
button Nomics or butter atl will be sure to pop up.
And so we just asked you come out and support,
you know, engage with the content, like subscribe and follow
us and let us know what you want to hear
so we can make sure we give people what they want.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
That's great man, And from a business perspective, can we
find you on LinkedIn?

Speaker 18 (55:39):
Absolutely, you can find me on LinkedIn, very easy to
find just Brandon Butler or butter Nomics on on LinkedIn.
We've got a big follow as well. We share a
lot of content on there and so definitely come check
us out on there as well. Well.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
The Brandon Let's stay in touch man, you know, would
love to have you back on the show again to
talk about some of the you know, the new things
that you guys are doing. Please, man, hit me up.
I think think it's an amazing show. It's an amazing
concept and we need to hear more of it. So
I hope this won't be the last time, Brandon that
we talk.

Speaker 18 (56:07):
Absolutely, man, I appreciate the opportunity. Yet we'll definitely share
some stuff.

Speaker 19 (56:10):
Man.

Speaker 18 (56:10):
Again, we got a lot of good things coming up,
some and their interesting guests, and you know, I just
want to see him get this out there and show
Folcus theres a lot of great stories to be told.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
All right, brother Brandon, thank you. That's what's up. Man.
This is Doug Davis, so listening to your black business
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Speaker 19 (57:51):
I'm jmc harris and I have something to say. There's
a video of making the rounds of Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett.
In one clip, she's polished, professional speaking playing English. In
the next, she flips the switch, slips into rateous slang,
and turns herself into a caricature.

Speaker 21 (58:10):
I've never been married, I don't have any kids, and
I practice law, so I handle civil rights cases. So
when the police are continually out here killing us. I'm
usually one that's behind the scenes handling those types of cases.
I handle criminal defense cases and I also handle car accidents.

Speaker 19 (58:28):
That was back in twenty nineteen. This is Jazzbin Crockett today.

Speaker 22 (58:33):
Maybe because these people they are crazy, because they always
talk about how Christian they is.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, I don't know how many am on that side.

Speaker 22 (58:41):
I'm getting divorced because they getting caught up sleeping with
their coworker staff as.

Speaker 9 (58:45):
And turns all the things.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Yeah, you ain't gotta believe me. Just go Google. You'll
find some of it, I'm telling you.

Speaker 22 (58:51):
And the wives is being messy and petty baby.

Speaker 19 (58:54):
This is what passes for leadership. This is what her
supporters cheer for. One minute, she's buttoned up for the cameras,
the next she's performing like an audition for reality TV.
It's pufunery, pure and simple. And the question is why
do her voters tolerated, Why reward someone who thinks leadership

(59:14):
is about code switching and clowning instead of character and conviction.
This is the lowest form of pandering. It insults the
intelligence of the very people she claims to represent. And
if we keep rewarding it. Don't be surprised when Congress
looks less like a legislative body and more like an
episode of love and hip hop. America deserves better, her

(59:35):
constituents deserve better, But jas Nick Crockett, she seems to
think being a clown is good enough. I'm James C.
Harris for the Black Information Network