Basketball - December 16, 2025

Guests: Martin Ingelsby, Gabe Moss, Sarah Jenkins, Tara Cousins

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
You are listening to the Klondike Kates Blue Hens Basketball
Coaches Show presented by First State Orthopedics, featuring men's basketball
head coach Martin Inglesby and women's basketball head coach Sarah
Jenkins on ninety four to seven wdsd FM, Fox Sports
twelve ninety eight and the iHeartRadio app. Welcome to La
Cosa Pasta Restaurant in.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
New Ark, and just like that, we are back.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Welcome to the first Blue Hens Basketball Coaches Show of
the season. We are live from the market room inside
of Lacaso Pasta Restaurant and we are presented by First
State Orthopedics.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Happy holidays everyone, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
In to ninety four to seven w DSDFM and iHeartRadio.
I'm Scott Klaskin, and tonight we'll catch up with both
the men's and women's basketball teams in just thirty minutes,
so we'll talk to Sarah Jenkins. She'll be here, and
we'll also hear from three time captain Tara Cousins who
is here as well. And in just a bit I'll
get to talk with a ballplayer that scored ten points

(01:00):
as game for the Hence Game Moss.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Will be here give it up for game. But first,
please welcome in our men's basketball head coach Martin angles b.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yeah, well yeah, welcome. Happy holiday. Is good to see everybody. Uh,
different section of the that's.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Right, the marketer. I feel like it's I feel like
I'm in Italy. First of all. It's it's a good
looking room.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Anybody that needs to do it at any events or
anything like that, certainly this is a good room to
be I think it fits fits the show and uh,
and we're happy to be here more and more importantly because.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
You know, I get talk to you pre game.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
It's a little different and we've said over the years,
like uh than maybe the Football show, where that's my
hour I have with coach Cardi, like during the week
we get to see each other pregame, post game, but
we get to go a little bit more in depth
with the show.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
So so I'm excited to.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Go to chat about let's dig in because you know,
the team is, as we've talked about, kind of getting
to know one another and.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
And a lot of practices.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
But now we're into ten games into the season of
a roster that, like every team in the country, has
seen a lot of changes. What's the biggest difference you've
felt of like getting to know each other during practice,
which you have months of doing that, and then getting
to know each other within the confines of a game.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
And how do you feel like the progress is coming?

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's been a work in
progress obviously, as seven new pieces to this roster, two
freshmen who are a part of it, and then five transfers,
and then we got some guys that kind of maybe
weren't a part of it last year kind of working
themselves into the mix.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
I think this group has been extremely focused.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
They've been a joy to coach, their working hard every day,
and I think we have a good sense of kind
of who we are right now. And you've seen a
team kind of week by week make some progress. We've
won four out of five. We're trying to play faster.
I think the ball's moving. We got to be better defensively,
We've got to be read rebounding the basketball. But we've
had some good, you know, days of practice to continue

(02:52):
to get back to things that we need to be
better at and continue to plus up kind of our strengths. So,
you know, happy with where we are. We get to
play tomorrow coming out of exams. This is always a
tricky one. But I told our guys today nothing better
than playing at eleven am. It's like AAU basketball guys.
You wake up the pre game meal and you get
a hope. So our guys will be ready to go
tomorrow and it should be a sold out crowd in there,

(03:14):
you know.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Grade school game.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
I think it's an awesome thing that our ticket office suggested,
so you know, we're excited to.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Be able to play it.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
I think it's very different, but you're right.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think there are are games where there's probably like
a lot of kind of waiting around for a seven
o'clock tip off, and you know, you get to get up,
get up and go, and so it should be fun
tomorrow and it's it's sold out, which is exciting, and
it's gonna be it's gonna be loud in there.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
We'll talk about that a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
So far, in ten games this year, you've had five
different players lead the team in score. So so Niles
has done it three times, Tim Coo, Riley and Camden twice,
and then Pasha has done it as well. All five
of those players are averaging double figures. So there's some
years where you think of some of the teams we've
had where there's been a Nate Dark or a Jamior

(04:00):
Nelson or a jay Or Davis.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
You can say, okay, go get go, get as twenty tonight.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
And there's some seasons where I think at the championship
team where it was more of a blended ratio of scoring.
Do you feel like that's what we're looking at this
year where it's gonna be kind of more spread out
and more bounce attack scoring this year.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
I mean the phrase that I've used is like strength
and numbers to steal there from the Golden State Warriors
in their depth, their versatility, their firepower on the offensive end,
and you know, I think this crew and know in
years past, maybe I've stuck to like a seven and
a half man rotation and they're like, why.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Don't you play this guy?

Speaker 4 (04:33):
This place is like, you know, I feel really confident
in playing ten or eleven guys going into a game
and want to continue to get you know, you know,
guys in there and be able to take advantage of
the depth and how to play, and we're continuing to
learn throughout a game throughout the course of the season.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
Can we play big? Can we play small?

Speaker 4 (04:49):
What is our best lineup to be able to get
stops and guard? Do we need to play zone? Play fast?
We need to slow it down a little bit based
on our personnel. You know, people ask like how you
want to play. We want to play to win, right
that ultimately in the end game, that's the goal. To
be able to win and be able to put the
five players on the floor at the end of the
game that can help us do that. But I do
think that the philosophy of like more bodies, more talent,

(05:11):
waves of guys coming in and then and then it
takes time for a group to.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Be able to gel.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
I think I've said this to you, like you can't
fast forward that chemistry. Hopefully that chemistry evolves and develops
week by week that when we get to January February
conference play that we're a pretty connected team on both
ends of the floor.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
I think we've noticed and the fans, I think to
the the light of the fans, certainly to me, it's exciting.
Basketball is more three point shooting this year, more scoring
this year. You scored one hundred in a game that
you beat a team that went to the second round
of the n SOA Tournament last year in Yale, so
really impressive stuff. You are making nine point one three
pointers per game. You're making nine point one three pointers

(05:51):
per game. You rewind twelve years ago and nine point
one would be the fourth most in all of college basketball.
You are eighty first in the nation this year, which
is still a good number. But it's just the point
to be made that like the game has changed, the
game has evolved. How do you feel like you've had
to adapt your coaching style to the way that the
game has now evolved a bit to go beyond the art, Yeah,

(06:14):
I think you take.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
A year by a year based on your personnel and team.
I think one of the biggest achilles heel heels for
us last year was we didn't score enough points right,
and to be able to score enough points, efficiency hitll efficiency.
You got to get layups, you got to get dunks,
you gotta get to the foul line, you got to
be really good from the three point line, and trying
to eliminate those tough two point shots.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
We didn't have.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Enough shooters or enough firepaller to be able to score enough.
But as we went into the just recruiting period, with
the high school kids with the transfers, we added, like
they had to be able to make shots, right, and
we'll give up a little bit on the defensive end.
Coach Phillis probably doesn't like to hear that as our
defensive coordinator, but like we might need, we might have
to have some games where we just outscore people with

(06:53):
our firepower. You saw that against gal we put up
one hundred points. We made seventeen threes. We're sharing the
basketball sixteen threes or whatever it is. That is kind
of the makeup of the group. And we're trying to
play a faster style of basketball right we're top thirty
or forty in the country right now and pace and tempo,
so that's the number of possessions that we have. So
we got to guard a little more. But if we
can score efficiently on the offensive end, I think we can,

(07:15):
you know, get to the eighties maybe more frequently than
we have in years passed.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
And you mentioned it too.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Maybe we don't have that star, that guy that we
go to and night in and night out, that's different.
But we have a lot of really really good players
that any of them can step up and lead us
in scoring and continuing to preach the unselfishness on the
offensive end, right sharing the basketball, making the extra pass
good to great offensive possessions. I say it thousands of

(07:40):
times throughout practice in the season, but if you get
a group that can do that on the offensive end,
it's it's a joy to watch it.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
It's a really fun way to play.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
We talk about passing when we talk about your college
basketball career, because you were so good at the you
shot forty six percent from three. As a seat, you
got to talk to Matt Carroll and David Grave while
they were taking so many you.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Can tell some of our players that they don't believe
I can make shots.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know, I was looking at I didn't know that
you were such a prolific three point shooter. But just
imagine how many of you would have made had had
more shots been available.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
The line was a little closer back then.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay, that's a good that's a good point I do.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
And continuing the conversation about just like scoring and shooting
and guys that can make shots. I want to go
back even to the end of last season or maybe
the offseason, to let our listeners kind of know the
mindset of building a roster because that's really what you're
doing nowadays because players are going to be coming and
going across the country. But you know, you get John Camden,
a big that can stretch the floor and he's made
threes in games, Eric Timco one of the most prolific

(08:36):
three point shooters. Toron Allen shot forty four percent last
year three point line. So is it your staff kind
of gets together and say and has an idea of like,
this is how we want to attack the portal in
the offseason.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, I think we learned from the year before that
we can't just take all transfers. You know, there's got
to be a balance between high school kids and transfers.
And then you know, recruiting comes down to like how
many scholarships we have and what is our need? So
you know, at this point going into next you're looking
at a roster like, hey, we might only have one or
two scholarships on paper, but the reality of it is
we're probably going to have more than that, right, So

(09:06):
it's filling those holes with guys that fit our program,
fit our culture, can excel here academically, going to represent
our program, But then also what do they do on
the basketball court that can help us win. And I
think we targeted Eric Timco and John Camden as elite
shot makers, guy that can really score the basketball. And
then who can fit in and compliment the guys we
had on a roster that you're hoping to return, Right,

(09:28):
that's the biggest thing. Like the season ended, I gave
our guys twenty four hours and it's like, all right,
I need to know who's coming back, so we can
formulate a plan to go out in the transfer world
and get you know who we need to get and
you know, but again, it can't be six transfers and
no high school kids.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Right.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Our two freshmen are going to be really really good
for us.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Isaiah Pasha is starting point guard and then making Emory's
a guy that has such a high ceiling for us,
who played great the other day. He was fabulous in
our two scrimmages, just coming into his own. But they
fit us, They fit our program, they fit our culture,
fit what we want to do on both ends little floor.
So both those guys are obviously great additions for us,
and then you're adding those other pieces. Hopefully the transfers

(10:07):
have multiple years and you can keep them for multiple years.
But the reality that might not happen, but to be
able to get a group together that could maybe potentially
be together for two plus years was really appealing as
we try to craft this.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Ross, well, it's a roster that we're all excited to
watch game in and game out. One guy that has
been there on the team but we've waited to see
until now is Gabe Moss. I want to ask you
about Gabe, but I do want to take a break
so we can have some time to talk to them.
But on the back end, I'll get your thoughts on
one of your your big men that had ten points
the other day against justtnut Hill. We'll take a time out,

(10:42):
we come back. Gabe Moss will be on the show.
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Speaker 1 (12:22):
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Speaker 3 (12:36):
And welcome back in It's a Blue Hens Basketball Coaches
Show for the first time this season, presented by First
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So happy to be joined now by Gabe Moss. Gabe,
thanks so much for coming on. Thanks for having Scott
that the crowd loves you. We're excited to have you

(12:56):
back ten points last week against chesnut Hill, an efficient
line zo thirteen minutes action, double digit scoring. More importantly, though,
kind of running up and down, you got a dunk
at some buckets. What did it feel like to get
back to play in that way and score?

Speaker 11 (13:13):
It was super exciting.

Speaker 12 (13:14):
Like you said, it was a long time coming, thankful
to do it for the coaches, the training staff, child
p Low working hard in there, and mostly my mom.
It was exciting to look over in the crowd and
see horrified up when I when I scored a couple
points there.

Speaker 11 (13:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I think everyone has been rooting for you, and you're
such a guy that.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
That we do root for.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
You made your debut against buck Nell and the season
opener at the Bob Carpenter Center, And for those that
aren't familiar, I guess I shouldn't assume that they know
your story. You came on two seasons ago, and we're
coming off of an injury in high school that kept
you out of the first season, and then year two
had an injury as well. So you've been on the
team for now your third season, but this is your

(13:53):
first time being able to get out there and play.
What was going through your mind when when the time
came you're ready to play against buck Nell?

Speaker 12 (14:00):
It was definitely super exciting, a little bit nerve wracking
at first, but I mean it's basketball. Some once to
get out there and get up and down. It's same
thing you do in practice, just just playing basketball.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, well, and I know you've been practicing, and I
mentioned the injury. So January twenty twenty two, you suffer
an injury while at the Hill School, still in high school.
Take us through kind of the rehab process to help
you get back and all that it entailed.

Speaker 12 (14:24):
Right, So I started rehabbing out the Hill School for
the last few months of my high school career and
then got here early in June, right after I graduated,
got them with Paul Lowry, got in early, and then
started rehabbing up until i'd say like February. Got back
on the court and I started practicing with the guys.
Obviously not in games or anything, but got in there

(14:45):
on the blue team and got some live reps in
was healthy for five six months until about October the
start of the season, and then had that reinjury of
the same day, and then obviously it was out for
that season, and then recovered last year, got healthy towards
the end of last season, end of last year, and
are here.

Speaker 11 (15:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
So it's a lot of it's highs and maybe anticipating
coming back, and then obviously there's the loads of the
re injuries. How did you maintain like focus and determination
because it's tough time, I'm sure. I'm sure that's tough
both physically and mentally as well to kind of get
through those hurdles. What was the key for you to
to kind of stay focused on the big picture in
the end goal.

Speaker 12 (15:24):
Even though I wasn't playing, it's still super a great
opportunity to be able to travel with the team, go
to cool places, experience cool things, get a free education obviously,
which is super awesome. And then I keep in mind
kind of my young self, how like probably would be
the position that I'm in even though, like you said,
I'm not playing, Just to be here at the school
and doing things that I can it is.

Speaker 11 (15:44):
Still a super awesome experience. That's what kept me going.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Well from Afar because I get to travel with you guys,
I'm lucky enough to do that as well. And from
Afar just kind of watching you cheer on your team
and at practice I remember U n c W.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, you were.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
You were walking up and down, running up and down
some stairs, and and it was Rich Levy I think
said it was one of the drills of rehab you
were kind of doing stairs and you're supposed to do
some push ups. At the end, I think you did
like triple the amount of push ups that you were
supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
We were watching you from afar.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
But but you're working hard and it's all bringing us
to now when you're able to play and tell us
a little bit about kind of your game. What is
a what does a healthy game Moss bring to a
basketball team?

Speaker 12 (16:23):
I think game Moss now and gave us probably three
years ago, is a little bit different of a player.
But I think like coach saying, we like to play fast,
so I think I can align with that, get up
and down the court pretty well. Set coach screens, rolls,
help get other guys, help get other guys open, and
then roll and get some some good offense for myself
as well. And rebounding something that I'm working on too,
But I think that keep focusing on that, it can

(16:44):
be something I do well.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Absolutely, we need you out there.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
We need that height that you provide in the rebound.
Talking to Gay Moss, third year on the team. Spoke
with Zach Marker during football season and he's one of
the quarterbacks on the team, one of the many quarterbacks
at DELA were used this season, but he was coming
off of an acl sert read and he had mentioned
he wasn't quite as mobile and it took him getting
used to playing with a knee brace on the football field.

(17:07):
So how would you describe having to play with kind
of a bigger knee brace during the game.

Speaker 12 (17:11):
Yeah, it's it's not too much on my mind, Like
I was saying Earlier's basketball, so once you get out
there and start playing, you're focused on the game. But
it was definitely an adjustment period of because I started
with the brace and then ended up getting out of
for a little bit. But we decided it's the best
thing for my need to just keep it on as
an extra line of defense. So yeah, it's just a
little bit of a learning curve. Get used to having
something extra on your body while you're playing. But once

(17:31):
you get used to it, it's not too bad.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
That's good to hear, you're all said, and Zach was
as well, I should should make sure he wasn't making
excuses about it. But just as similarities there of guys
going through some of the same things, you do a
lot of great things on the court. I was trying
to find some information off the court, and I ran
into a video that you made a day in the
life for our friends at Laning Development Group.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
We love the folks over at lang.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Wasn't the most exciting day that Ditch posted included you
a video of you throwing trash out and the dumpster
s not not a crazy busy day for you. But
Houston was in there doing some laundry. So is he
your roommate? You have other roommates to you who you
live with?

Speaker 11 (18:10):
Yeah? I live with the Houston Memory and Kevin Riley.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Okay, so cav for a while now right, you came
in with Cavin.

Speaker 11 (18:16):
Yeah, we've beening freshman the other the three of.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Us, who's the who's the messiest of the group?

Speaker 12 (18:21):
I don't want to admit it, but yeah, that's a
good deed.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
You on throwny bails on the bus in the video. Also, uh,
there was some some call of duty playing. I think,
oh yeah, who's the best on the team in the
video games?

Speaker 11 (18:34):
Houston Memory is a big gamers. He's he's pretty good. Yeah,
pretty good?

Speaker 2 (18:37):
A right, So Houston Houston gets that.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Not all right, Let's get you a couple of quick
questions to wrap up the segment and thank you so
much for being on. It's great talking with Gabe and
and to have you back. It's just fantastic. It's great
to see out there. What player is the most active
on the team in the team group chat the.

Speaker 12 (18:55):
Team group chat, Probably most that you like see stuff
about is Isaiah Possi. He's always always doing funny things
in there. And then most active in the group chat
probably uh toron Allen getting the getting the guys going there?

Speaker 2 (19:07):
There you go are it's good one of the captains?

Speaker 6 (19:09):
Good? Uh?

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I read you have three brothers and four sisters?

Speaker 11 (19:12):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Where are you in? Where are you in the mix?

Speaker 5 (19:14):
There?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Where are you in? Terms of age?

Speaker 11 (19:17):
So I have.

Speaker 12 (19:19):
Four older sisters, an older brother, and then two younger brothers,
so kind of in like that middle group.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
I feel like there's a whole other segment we could
do on what it's like for you have four older sisters.
My goodness, that was I'm sure a whole lot of
fun for you. So, uh, you wore number fourteen at
the Hill School?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (19:34):
You were ten? For Philly Pride started with twenty three?
Here what we inspiration on double zeros?

Speaker 12 (19:41):
I wore double zero for AU before I got on
like a circuit team, just like a local AU team.
And I don't know, once I figured out you could
change it in that double zero was available.

Speaker 11 (19:49):
I've always liked that number.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
It looks good on you. It looks good as I'm
a Celtics fan.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Robert Parrish were double zero, So that's that's that's a
good look for you.

Speaker 13 (19:56):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Speaking of older players or favorite players, who's your favorite
basketball player? Current player and maybe an all time player.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Who's your favorite?

Speaker 12 (20:06):
That's a good question. I love watching Giannis play a lot. Okay,
the speedy plays at the dominance that he shows is
super exciting to watch.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
So there, I think he's on what they got The
NBA Cup on tonight is the championship tonight.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I feel like I feel like I feel like it
might be.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
So maybe after after this segment you can catch up
on some of be honest and then lastly, Uh, We're
so glad to have you as a Blue Hen. What's
your favorite part of being a part of this program?

Speaker 11 (20:31):
Favorite part of being a Blue Hen? I don't know the.

Speaker 12 (20:33):
Players on the team. Like I said, I've been Injurest,
so I haven't been able to play. So yeah, the
guys on the team have brought a lot of enjoyment
on the quarter and off the court. The coaching staff
super awesome, keep stuff fun in practice and off the
court as well on trips and stuff. And uh, the
school itself is just a super awesome place to be at. Socially,
have a great time, meet some good friends and uh,

(20:55):
some friends. I think I'll have a long time after
That's a great list. And we're so happy that your
your part of this. You are just getting started. It's
good to see you back on the court. Thanks for
being here.

Speaker 11 (21:03):
Sure, thank you.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
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Join once again by our head coach Martin Englesby and coach.
Great to talk with Gabe. It's great to see him
run around and who like he was doing last Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
He's just getting started. What excites you about the future
for Gay Bombs.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, I mean he's he's got a great attitude. Obviously
dealt with some adversity with the injuries, but you know,
very coachable, guy that works really hard every day, does
extra work with coach Phillips in. A guy that just
I think has a high ceiling as he continues to
develop and get confident obviously, you know his size and
his athleticism. You know, he buys into a role what
we need him to do. You saw it the other day.

(23:43):
He finishes around the rim, he can block him sounds,
He runs the floor as well as any big guy
we probably had in our program. So just to have
a game like that, to continue to build off of
a game like that, have confidence, and he he knows
he's going to be ready when he gets gets called on.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Well, that's exciting and it was great to talk to him,
and he might get called on in fourteen and a
half hours. That's when we tip off. This is certainly
the closest coaching show to a game that we've had.
So thank you for coming tonight because I know you
guys are preparing for mister Cordia coming in. It's a
stretch of the season. You had mentioned kind of couples
of exams that happens every year, But gonna go two

(24:21):
games between Duquane and Saint Peter's in a thirteen day span,
So what do you look to achieve during this time
of year, which is not You're not gonna have a
timeline like this once conference play starts, where it's gonna
kind of be game game game game game. Now you
got some time to work on some things. So what
have you been doing. What do you look to achieve
during this time?

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Yeah, I think the most important thing is guys need
to fill fish up the fall semester academically. So we
played last Tuesday, we gave him off Wednesday, Thursday, we
had a light workout Friday, and he kind of got
back to practice on Saturday. I feel like Saturday is
always a day where we just kind of like run
exams out of you. We played, we get up and down,
and then he had two good days of preps.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
So as we put the schedu.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Together, you know, we bookend exams with these two non
Division one teams and then you know we got a
quick turnaround to be able to go on the road
against the Saint Peter s Peters team that's very good
and talented and tough. I think as we craft the schedule,
it's really important to give our guys a break around
this time, so to try to get them as much
time at home as possible. I remember when I played

(25:22):
back in the day, like you get forty eight hours
and everybody was miserable. So like we'll give our guys
five days. They got to get a little cardio in.
They won't play, they won't do any other stuff. But
then we come back on the twenty sixth and we
playcxice to twenty six, twenty seventh, and then we have
a heck of a challenge on the twenty eighth up
at Saint John's and CARNASECA against a really good team
that kind of starts conference play for us so to

(25:42):
be able to go on the road against them, and
then we come back and we get right in the
CAAA play.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
So give you a little bit of snapshot.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
I should ask Sarah how her preparation went for when
she played I think the eleven am game against Colgate.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
Whatever how that went.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
I know there'll be a lot of people in the
Bob tomorrow, but we got to get up seven forty five,
break this film walk through. Guys got to be in
the arena an hour and a half before they start
their workout at ten am, and then we tip it
up at eleven game.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Should just be in bed right now, it's his lang
development the house there and get some get some rest.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Well, whatever she did, I know they won that game.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Coby So that's what's most important talking about the schedule
and putting together I mean a tough non conference slate
that you put together, two teams that reached the round
of thirty two last season, and Yale and Ducine. You're
able to beat Yale in a big fashion up in Connecticut.
Four of your first ten Division one games are going
to be against n Cuba Tournament teams from a season ago.

(26:38):
And then I own a great program they made in
twenty three and Bryant, then obviously Saint Peter's and Saint John's.
So what was the thought process in kind of putting
this schedule together and really challenging your group before conference?

Speaker 5 (26:48):
I think Edward knows.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
I think sixteen teams have won twenty plus games from
a year before. You know, scheduling kind of works a
year in advance. So like we put a schedule together
with the expectation to have our you know, some guys
on our returning. Obviously those days are over, but it's just,
you know, guys want to play in big games. We
want to play against really good teams. I think being
able to put our team on the court on a

(27:10):
neutral court against two really good teams in Vermont and
Yale up at Mohegan Sun. We'll do benefit, you know,
we'll provide dividends for our group down the road because
we got to be able to win three or four
games in the conference tournament to get a bit. But
you know, I looked at it at the beginning of
the season and say, well, we're we thinking. But in
the moment, I think this has really kind of been
good for our group. We've had some adversity, we've done

(27:32):
some things well, We've learned a lot about our team,
and maybe some losses. I think either win or you learn.
I think we've learned a lot about our group in
this moment, coming off some maybe a tough one at
Duquane where we didn't play great in the second half, Like,
how do we minimize that next time? What do we
do differently when we're in a situation when we can't
score but we're digging in a little bit, how do
we kind of flip the switch? So, you know, these

(27:54):
games give us a lot of opportunity to learn about
our team and in the end of the day be
ready to start off conference.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
And then you had mentioned a trip to Saint John's
and Saint John's has been in the top twenty five
this year, so really impressive group that they've got going
up there. It just made me think of some rivalry
games I'm sure in the Big East that you played
during your college career. You did not play at Saint
John's Insertingly enough at as a senior and junior. You

(28:20):
played at Manson Square Garden as a freshman and a sophomore.
He went up against Ron Hard Test there a Parkley
team at Madison Square, and then Felipe Lopez and then
Hamilton and Saint John's team. Some some good rivalry matchups
in the Big East. What do you remember about your
days playing against Saint John's.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Well, first of all, my official visit to Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
It was me Hans Rasmussen who was from Portland, Oregon,
and Ron art Test. There was no way in hell
ron ar Test was going to Notre Dame, but he
just wanted to come out and see Notre Dame in
South Bend.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yeah, I don't think I think the Johnny's were giving
him too.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Much money back then. He wasn't leaving the Bronx or whatever.
But no, I mean I think to be able to
play in the garden to be able to coach in
the Garden obviously an unbelievably and so we had some
great battles against Saint John's, the Big East Tournament. Was
there some great runs against Connecticut, Villanova, George on all
those years. You know, we did lose the game in

(29:10):
the Big East Tournament my senior year that I have
a nightmares about.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
We were really good.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Lost with pitt team as they return in the corner
with Brandon Knight and Ben Hallen. But you know, it
was an honor to be able to play in that arena,
to be able to go up the storage elevator and
get you know, see that the history, the you know,
the the players, the concerts, the bands, the people that
have been in there and performing and stuff.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
So kind of great experience.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, didn't get they didn't play a whole lot at
what they used to be called Alumni Hall now it's arena,
but they didn't. They usually play all their games at
Maddis Square, so it would be neat to head up there.
That's a that's down the road tomorrow though, Uh, you
better entertain these kids.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah, we got to wake up, you know, hopefully they
can give us some good energy as we get going.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Guys are awake, eleven.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
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Speaker 3 (29:55):
It's gonna be a raucous atmosphere, a lot of field trips,
a lot of great in school folks and then of
season take holders as well.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
But it's gonna be. It's gonna be allowed.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
It's gonna be got like some globe trotters, trick shops
or anything for these kids.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Or what we got tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
I hopefully have they a lot of sugar at the
candy at the concession standard, get them fired up and
cheering and stuff, and that'll hopefully energize.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Our group to get going.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
It'll be it'll be a great atmosphere.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
We're looking forward to, uh, to seeing the game tomorrow
morning and coming out and to having that great atmosphere
and then uh a quick turnaround to play really great
team in Saint Peter's who went to the n Subway
tournament and we know actually the impact they've they've had
an a tournament as well before.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Playing Saint John.

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So UH, we appreciate you though coming on for the
coach that started us off the first show of the year.
We'll have plenty once we get January, but thank you
so much for being here.

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Speaker 6 (33:24):
And welcome back to Lacasa Passa. Blawent's Basketball Coaches Show.
I'm Matt Janis joined now by the head coach of
the Delaware women's basketball program, Sarah Jenkins, coach. Thanks so
much for taking the time to be with us today.

Speaker 18 (33:36):
I don't have a choice.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
It is contractually put into your contract. We made sure
we took care of that. You know, Scott was talking
to Martin Englesb earlier about the men's team. He had
that great stat he had five different players have led
the way and in terms of scoring for the men's
team so far this year. I don't have any stats
like that for your team. Unfortunately, you did manage to
get five players to the game every single game so

(33:58):
far this year.

Speaker 18 (34:02):
Right now, I.

Speaker 19 (34:05):
You know, at the end of the day, like we're
dealing with a very rare.

Speaker 18 (34:08):
And unfortunate situation.

Speaker 19 (34:10):
Uh that doesn't happen very often, right, You don't see
this happen a bunch of times in women's basketball, and
we're dealing with it. Just a really tough situation. But
I I am, you know, very proud of the group
of kids that we have and the and the girls
that we have. And man, every day they're fighting and
they're working and they're getting better and they're not giving up,

(34:31):
and they don't feel sorry for themselves, you know. And
that's what we talked about, like we're gonna compete this
year with whatever number we have, and we're not gonna
feel bad for ourselves.

Speaker 18 (34:40):
Right we were Delta bad hand.

Speaker 19 (34:41):
This is how how it's going, and we're gonna go
out here and compete. And I think that that we've
done that better as time has progressed. I extremely proud
of their fight against Villanova and then I went out,
I started like proud of their fight, but then I
was mad at them because we could have won the game,
you know, like we you know, we were terrible in
the first quarter. I think we shot twenty percent, but

(35:03):
then we won the second quarter, we won the fourth quarter,
and we tied the third quarter against a top team
in the Big East. So you know, we have some opportunity.
And the big thing for us moving forward is to
continue to work and to get better and to figure
out ways to stay healthy. Everybody hit on the floor,
hit on the table, but we got to figure out
how to stay healthy for the rest of the season.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Every interview that I have done this year, I have
been contractually bound to find some wood that we can
knock go on while we asked Sary Jenkins the questions,
But it is kind of a serious subject because it
has ordered everything that you guys have tried to do
as a program. Started out the year, you knew you
were going to be shorthanded with the injuries that you
suffer in practice leading up to the start of the season,
seizing ending injuries, but it orders what you were hoping

(35:46):
to be as a program, and now you've dealt with them.
A couple injuries here, a couple injuries a couple weeks later,
and it's just been all types of moving pieces. But
also not as many players as you're planning to have
to try to operate a practice. How has it impacted
the preparation for games for you as a program?

Speaker 18 (36:03):
A lot? Right?

Speaker 19 (36:04):
And so you know, I'm a first I'm in year
three of just being a head coach, and so when
you transition into being a head coach, it's a lot
of stuff that you know you're learning in the process.
And so this is a really, really tough learning curve
when you're learning how to do it and you're having
to do these things. But you know, I look at
my staff. I'm unbelievably grateful for my staff. Got a

(36:26):
good group of experienced people, and it's making us better coaches.
You know, I am learning how to be a really
good coach because we're having to figure things out and
do things differently and think outside the box, and it's
making us better, you know. And I told somebody this
the other day, Like the group I had last year
wouldn't have been able to deal with this. The team
I had a year ago would not be able to

(36:49):
sustain the adversity that we are enduring right now. And
I think that's a testament to our culture and to
the buying of the of the kids that are in
the program. And so like, as a coach, got to
look back and say, yeah, this is tough for figuring
out because Yo, we don't have a point guard on
the floor. Tar Cousins, God bless her when she graduates,
I'm gonna cry real tears, like boohoo cry. It's gonna

(37:10):
be the saddest day of my life. But she's not
a point guard. You know, we don't have a point guard.
All three of our point guards are out. I've never
seen that happen in thirteen years in my college, that
all three point guards are out. And she's playing point guard,
you know. And so she's and everybody's sacrificing and doing
some things that they're not used to doing or not
so comfortable doing for the betterment of the team. And

(37:31):
you know, I couldn't be more proud of them. And
I think it's gonna pay off. Everybody's telling me it's
gonna pay off. Something really good's gonna happen because we
gotta go through this. So I'm waiting on to something
really good's gonna happen. Because we're going through this.

Speaker 6 (37:43):
You are do a lot of good. Carter, You're coming
your way, There's no doubt about it. But you mentioned
Tar Cousins at the top of the list in terms
of setting the tune for this culture. Scott mentioned it at
the top three times a team captain. You just don't
see that very often anymore in this area of college athletics.
Can you talk about what she has meant to this
prom not just on the court, but off it, the
way she's kept everybody together.

Speaker 19 (38:05):
Shining star as to her cousins, I mean I can talk.
I mean, she's just an incredible leader. But like what
she's meant to me as a coach, Yeah, because it
just you know, like I'm really important here, like I
think so coaches And it says Martin Inglesby and Sarah Jenkins,
That's what it says. But she she to me, she's

(38:27):
just been phenomenal. Like when you don't have to police
certain things in the locker room for your culture, when
you have a player on the floor who is echoing
who you are as a head coach, you can't get
any better than that. And I mean, she is a
walking representation of me, and I know it makes her sick,
right because she doesn't want to admit it, but she is.
And she knows what I'm thinking most of the time.

(38:48):
She knows how to respond to certain situations.

Speaker 18 (38:51):
In the game.

Speaker 19 (38:51):
She doesn't always call what I want her to call
the plays we're working on that will get a lot
better on that. But she has been a great extension
of he as a head coach on the floor to
the players, and I just think that's been really beneficial,
especially in the situation that we're dealing with right now.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
That might be the most backhanded compliment I've ever heard
anyone give out in my entire life. But you are right,
and she is somebody that is making that position change.
The good news is she had to do it before
because of some injuries and all the roster decimation that
you dealt with when you got the job in your
first year, she had to slide over that point guard position.
I know, talking to you and her last year though,

(39:28):
you were telling her I won't have to do that anymore,
We'll slide you back off the ball. I guess you didn't.
You didn't tell her no crosses count you didn't have
the fingers crossed situation, but he has just rolled with
it and she is in a much better position than
she otherwise would have been because of what you went
through two years ago. How have you seen her improved
this year as a point guard versus when she was
thrown into the fire the first time two years ago.

Speaker 19 (39:50):
Yeah, you know, just to her maturity, you know, And
like I said, I don't think my team last year
cut indore what we're dealing with this year, And just
not only for coach, but for players.

Speaker 18 (40:01):
They're moving pieces. Everybody is playing.

Speaker 19 (40:03):
Out of position, you know, Like I don't have a
point guard, I don't have a we don't have a
backup post player right now. So everybody's having to shift
and play in situations that they're not used to playing in.
And it makes it that much harder for Tara, who
is already playing out a position. But recognizing when we
have lineups in that are unconventional, and there are multiple

(40:25):
times in the game when you're only playing with six
or seven players, you know that you're gonna have unconventional lineups.
And I think just the maturity for her and the
growth to be able to recognize and understand that has
really been impeccable. But I'm gonna stop talking like really
highly about her, because then she's gonna stop working hard.
She's gonna think she's got everything together, and then tomorrow
I practice, she's gonna be coaching me.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
Have you ever met Tara Cousin? She does have everything together.
This kid already has a degree. She's probably the smartest
person maybe to be inside the program in the last
decade or so. And you know what, should we let
her talk right now?

Speaker 5 (40:57):
I think so?

Speaker 6 (40:57):
All right, let's bring her up. We'll take a break.
When we return, we'll hear from Tory Cousins at the
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Speaker 6 (42:51):
And welcome back to the Classa Pasta Restaurant, New Arc, Delaware.
I'm back, Jammis. This is a Blats Basketball Coaches Show,
and we are joined by Tarak Cousins, the three time
captain of the University of Delaware women's basketball program, and
more importantly, four time guests. Now, I believe on the
Blue Hen's Basketball Coaches Show, you might hold the program
record for most times having to come here and talk
to me.

Speaker 18 (43:12):
That's okay.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
I'm happy you draw the short straw every time in
terms of having to go first. But we love getting
the opportunity to talk to you because you are probably
one of the more interesting people that have come through
the program over the years. You you you already have
your degree in biology, correct, Yes, yes, so that was
an awful lot of pretty hard work that you were
doing to try to get that set up, all while

(43:37):
being a Division one basketball player. Can you walk us
through what an average day was like as an undergrad
in terms of the amount of work that you were
having to put in.

Speaker 22 (43:46):
Oh goodness, gracious, it makes my head spin. On my
online classes as a master's student, I'm checked out from
the bio. The bio. No, I probably wake up pretty early,
have classes all morning, usually back to back or back
to back to back.

Speaker 18 (44:01):
You should pretty hard classes.

Speaker 22 (44:02):
So I remember I started my day with physics, organic
chemistry most days something like that, and then straight to
practice or straight to the rehab room. I always always
have something nagging. I bother melon there, Uh, straight to
the rehab room, straight to lift, straight practice, eat something,
go home, and probably do at least two three hours

(44:25):
more of homework. There was there was days that I was,
you know, going to sleep real late just because you
get home seven o'clock, eight o'clock and still have hours
of homework to do. But it was all worth it.
I'm glad. I I'm glad I earn that degree. Now
my my master's classes are all online, and I'm smooth sailing.

Speaker 6 (44:42):
It was a very different looking to our cousins. You
walked in here today, you were grinning from here here
is a much happy, go lucky and and it seemed
like there was the load taking off your shoulders. How
does this schedule look different this year as a grad student?

Speaker 22 (44:54):
Oh, my goodness, it's easy.

Speaker 18 (44:56):
It's easy, which is great.

Speaker 22 (44:58):
No, I'm I'm like I said, my classes are all online,
so most of them are asynchronous. So it's really your
own pacing and my own, my own time. So get
that knocked out, and I have so much more time
to go shoot, work out with Jenkins, bother her in
her office all the time, go and bother her and
their coaching staff all time. Coach Fred I'm always getting
him in the gym, working out with him, making the

(45:18):
old man rebound for me. So yeah, it's it's great.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
Now I'm gonna have to ask the Georgetown grad Sarah
Jenkins what asynchronous means when she comes back up for
a segment next time. But how about what you guys
have gone through as a team so far as six
players and for the resilience that you've shown, you have
been you talk to any of the coaches, you have
been the voice that has stood out above all the rest.
What has been your message to the teammates to try

(45:42):
to get you through a season's worth of adversity here
in about a month and a half.

Speaker 22 (45:46):
I think I just I just echo what Jenkins says
to us, that we're enough. Every day she comes in
the huddle, she comes in pregame whatever it is, and
tells us that every single person one through six is
enough and they're good enough, and we're good enough to
get this done right Like no, like she said, no
one's feeling sorry for ourselves or not, like, oh man,
woe is me? I don't have a sub anything like that.

(46:08):
You know, we're taking a head on and also encouraging
people because people who might not have gotten as big
of an opportunity before injuries are are getting an opportunity
right Like, no one has a sub. I think I
told people before our game against Villanova, I was like, yo,
play free, play because look, Jenkins can't sup you out,
so if you mess up, you get a turnover. It's

(46:29):
not like Jenkins is gonna yank you out and cut
your PT in half. She can't do that. So play free,
have fun. Know that you know someone next to you,
so your left, your right is gonna pick you up,
have your back. That's the biggest thing. And we play
for each other.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
This program has been built. You know, everybody talks about
trying to make it look like a family, feel like
in family, but you guys really kind of act that
out with what the way you guys are on and
off the floor. What does it mean to be a
part of a program that has that true family feel.

Speaker 22 (46:56):
Oh my goodness, it's everything.

Speaker 18 (46:58):
I love here.

Speaker 22 (47:00):
I just said it to our fans that I was
when I was walking up here. It's it's it's the
best thing I I don't want to leave. That's why
I came back for my fifth year. And I mean,
you know, like you say, make it look like a family,
but it really is, like, uh, they're my best friends.
And sometimes, like I'm an emotional person, my team is
always get on me about it, but like you know,
I'll just look at them and be like, man, I
love you guys so much, and it's just that's it's

(47:22):
real and genuine and that's that's hard to find. So
it means everything to me.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
Well, you are a real and genuine person and you're
talking about you know, perspective. You've had to deal with
that obviously during the off season, your family has gone
through some some health scares. It was a really, uh
a difficult off season. I guess it would be the
best way to describe it. Can I share with people
how everything went through for you guys, and how everything's
going with your family?

Speaker 5 (47:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (47:46):
Absolutely, you want me to break it down. Yeah, yeah.
My my my mom. Going into at the end of
last school year, going into this summer, she was diagnosed
with breast cancer for the second time. She had it
when I was in fourth grade before, and she was
diagnosed again about a little over a year ago now actually,

(48:06):
which is kind of crazy. Time flies. So going into
this this this school year, she was going through chemotherapy again,
but she recently rang the bell and she is cancer free.

Speaker 18 (48:18):
She's great.

Speaker 22 (48:18):
Thank you guys so much. Yeah, she's great. And I
think that every person who she's at every game with
my dad, So if you see her, feel free to
give her a hug. She she you know, she's a
great hugger. But every single person who's talked to her
a senior, they're all like, man, she she just finished
king with therapy. Like I wouldn't know. She's a She
looks great, she's happy, go lucky, bubbly smile that brightens

(48:41):
everybody's day. So yeah, she's amazing. And my team has
been amazing and my coaches, like I said, there my
family as well, so they lift me up. They supported her,
They made an amazing video for her when she rang
the bell to support her. And I know that it
means a lot to her and it certainly means a
lot to me.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
How big of an impact has she had on your life?
Because I know you're very close.

Speaker 22 (49:00):
With your family, Uh she I know. I just said
my team is my best friend, but my mom is
she's like my twin. I won't even say my best friend,
like she's my twin. And everybody tells me that I'm
I'm like her. My teammates recently told me that I
look like her.

Speaker 18 (49:11):
I don't.

Speaker 22 (49:11):
I don't know if I agree with them, but they
see it, and yeah, she's my twin. I get everything.
So my emotional intelligence, my leadership, my my passion, my love,
my care for other people, it's it's all modeled after her.

Speaker 18 (49:23):
She is.

Speaker 22 (49:24):
She's the best person I know. So she's a huge impact.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
Now, when I was your age, I did not have
my life anywhere nearest together as you do have yours already.
But what are your future plans? I hated this questions
when I was your age, But what is it that
you want to do?

Speaker 22 (49:38):
You know what?

Speaker 18 (49:39):
Now?

Speaker 22 (49:40):
For for once, I actually don't have a solid plan.
There's lots of options as that as the actual the
future is nearing. I was just talking to Jenkins about
this the other day when we're going to grab breakfast.
You know, I actually barring that I stay stay healthy
and they'll get too much of a grandma. I would
actually love to play after after college. I think I
kind of like let that dream pass me by when

(50:02):
I first you're getting into my sophomore junior year. Maybe,
but you know, being around this family, being around this team,
being on Jenkins, They've they've reignited my passion and my
love for the game, and in a way that I
didn't think that I was ever gonna get back. Not
that I didn't love it, but just in a way
of like, you know, it takes a lot to say
I want to do this as a profession. I want
to do this his career. So looking at that, if

(50:22):
if that doesn't happen, whatever the case may be, I'll
I'll probably get an internship, go back to school, get
my PhD in Global Health. Yeah, and Jenkins has been
trying to convince me that I'll make a good coach,
but we'll see about that. I think she just wants
me to work with it.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
She said she's going to cry, so we will make
sure that we have the cleanex when that day comes.
We're gonna be sad to see you go though as well.
It has always been such an honor to watch you play,
but also to get a chance to talk to you
as a passive a kid is You're gonna find it obviously,
can't call your kid anymore at this point with a
college degree. Thank you so much, taur Cousins. We will
take a break. We will be rejoined by Sarry Jenkins
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Speaker 1 (53:02):
Because you were listening to the Blue Hens Basketball Coaches
Show on ninety four to seven w DSD FM, Fox
Sports twelve ninety and the iHeart Radio at present it
by First Aid or The Beat X, Welcome back into
La Cosa pasta restaurant in New York.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
And welcome back final segment of the first show, The
Who Wins Basketball Coaches Show Matt Jennis and we are
rejoined by Sarah Jenkins and uh, you talked about Tara
Cousins and what she will be able to accomplish for
this team this year, and what she has meant to
this program. You see a future coach there.

Speaker 18 (53:36):
I do, But I'm a little bothered.

Speaker 19 (53:38):
Is she said that they had a team discussion that
I can't sub them out, so.

Speaker 18 (53:42):
Just do whatever. Did I hear that? Yeah, that's what
she said.

Speaker 19 (53:46):
That's probably why I was because they were just shooting
any shot any ol kind of way because they know
I don't have a sub Now, I know y'all said that,
But what.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
What is gonna be your plan? What are you gonna
do something out and play with fort You're gonna go
like Norman Dale in Hoosiers. My team's on the floor.

Speaker 19 (54:00):
No, But now I know what they're doing, so I
got a good eye on them now.

Speaker 18 (54:04):
But I do.

Speaker 19 (54:05):
I think Tar has a tremendous opportunity to the kid's
going to be able to do whatever she wants.

Speaker 18 (54:11):
You know.

Speaker 19 (54:12):
I think she'd be a phenomenal coach, you know, because
she coaches our team now she's and I think she'll
be a really really good coach. So I'm going to
try to push her into that direction at some point
in her life.

Speaker 6 (54:24):
So we'll say, well, talking about a player going to
a potential coach to talk about a coach who was
a player way back when she had two working knees,
and Martin Ingles be talking about going up to Saint
John's with the men's program, how he never got a
chance to play it, Cardiseco Hall, you got a chance
to play there. You lit it up a couple of
times for the George Town layers in that building.

Speaker 18 (54:43):
Yeah, I was really good at basketball.

Speaker 19 (54:45):
I don't know if I ever told you all that, Like,
I don't know if we talked about how good of
a basketball player.

Speaker 6 (54:49):
You also got to put in your contract that we
have to mention at least one time per show this year.

Speaker 18 (54:53):
You should make sure you bring that up.

Speaker 19 (54:54):
I was really really good at basketball, and I had
two really good knees, and I probably should be in
the WN right now.

Speaker 18 (55:01):
Yeah, probably not, but sounds good. That sounded awesome.

Speaker 6 (55:05):
So you don't remember the Saint John's games in any way,
shape or form.

Speaker 18 (55:07):
DGA not at all. I don't even know if I
got in the game.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
You did. I looked it up. You scored a bunch
of points. It was pretty impressive stuff. Speaking of Martin Ingles,
but he's got the school kids special. You had the
school kids special A few weeks ago. It was the
largest crowd at the Bob Carpenter Center since the Elena
delad On unc Suite or game that was one to
go to the sweet sixteen second round of the NCAAA Tournament.

(55:32):
You could not make words come out of your mouth
at least that were understandable for about a week after
that game, because you screamed yourself horse with all the
screaming kids. Do you have any advice for coach jingles
be of how to cut through the noise?

Speaker 19 (55:45):
You sign language, I see your own shot. You better
have hand signals, sign language something, because yelling is not
gonna work. Calling the plays out is not gonna work
because they're not gonna hear you, and then they're not
gonna do what you told them to do or run
the play that you call, and then they're gonna say
they didn't hear you, because that's what happened the whole game.

Speaker 18 (56:03):
They said to hear me. So just don't call him out,
just use hand signals.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
All right, Yeah, he's writing that down right now. I
can tell that he's ready to go. It was a
great atmosphere though that school gets special. Did you enjoy
that and what did job that the marketing staff did
so sell out for you guys, sell out for the
men's team tomorrow. That is fantastic this time here. Those
aren't easy to come back.

Speaker 18 (56:24):
No, it's not.

Speaker 19 (56:24):
And I think that one of the big things that
we can continue to do and work on to build
the Delaware basketball brand is to get people in the
Bob Carpenter Center and to fill it out. And it
makes that much of a difference. It makes it that
much tougher of a place to play. It makes us
that much more appealing for recruits and people to want

(56:44):
to come play here.

Speaker 18 (56:45):
And you know, I think we.

Speaker 19 (56:46):
Need to continue to do things and come up with
creative ideas on how to get people in the stands
to come to the games. And I know winning drives that, right,
but as we're building and working towards that, it would
be great if we can continue to get people in
the stands.

Speaker 6 (57:00):
Hard to believe the twenty twenty four is almost over already.
We're closing in on the new year conference play come January,
but you've still got some non conference work ahead of you.
A road trip at Navy this week. Those are always
tough games because those players are as disciplined as they come.

Speaker 19 (57:15):
Yeah, it's gonna be a tough game, and it's gonna
be a tough game because we're playing there at their place,
and you know, we take every game with the same approach.
You know, the reality is we're playing extremely shorthanded, and
you know, our message to the team is we have
to be extremely disciplined, and that's the only way we're
gonna win and compete in games if we're disciplined, so
we can't get in foul trouble, we can't make silly

(57:38):
decisions and silly mistakes like we have to be disciplined.

Speaker 18 (57:41):
And that's going to.

Speaker 19 (57:41):
Be for whoever we play. From Navy told to you
to Harvard, who's the top fifty team in the country.
You know, we're gonna have to be disciplined, and that's
the only way we're gonna have a shot to compete
in these games because we're playing good teams.

Speaker 6 (57:52):
Yeah, what happened by the way non conference scheduling. You
sat here last year and you said you are going
to switch up the way you schedule in non conferencing.
Yet every time I look down at the schedule, playing
another top one hundred RPI team.

Speaker 19 (58:04):
Yeah, it worked out that way for us, But you know,
I think it's good for our kids because we're learning
at the level that we have to compete at to win,
and that's what we get. We got to keep at that,
and you know, I don't want to give us a
false sense of how good we are. So let's keep
playing teams that are gonna challenge us and push push
the envelope and hopefully that'll pay dividends for us and

(58:25):
conference play.

Speaker 6 (58:25):
Got that big light bulb win against Colgate, which is
probably gonna be an NCAA tournament team. They are amongst
the favorites of the Patriot League and it certainly showed
off what they can do. And then there'll be one
more game before the holiday against Old Dominion on the
road at Norfolk. And then Christmas, which is a day
that I know is very near to I mean, everyone's arts,
it's the holiday, but you make Christmas into a very
big deal. And what is on your list this year

(58:47):
in terms of Christmas presents?

Speaker 18 (58:50):
I would like for my team to stay healthy. That's
all I got. That's all I want is my team
to stay healthy.

Speaker 19 (58:56):
All I want for Christmas is much even stay healthy.
All our wonful Christmas, gives my team to stay healthy.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
Oh yeah, you have so many talents. You are not
Mariah carry that. I gotta say that is not but
that is a a a a gift that I think
that we would all love to give you. Anything else
though that stands out. How about a gift that you
want to give to your team?

Speaker 18 (59:21):
Uh, I don't want to give them anything.

Speaker 19 (59:23):
I know I love them, but I do just and again,
very grateful to every season ticket holder. You guys who
come to the games, were so grateful for you, and
I wish everybody has a very very merry Christmas. And
we will see you hopefully in January. Do we open
up in January. I don't even know what game.

Speaker 6 (59:41):
I believe it's the next Time game, so we.

Speaker 18 (59:42):
Hope to see there.

Speaker 19 (59:43):
But Merry Christmas to everybody, and we appreciate you guys
so much.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
I echo those sentiments. Thank you so much to Sarah Jenkins.
Thank you to everybody that made it out here tonight
in the forest, to our cousin gave Mosk and coach
Martin Inglesby, our co host Scott Glaskin, producer Jay hot
to hand back if the Newcastle Studios our next Coaches
show January. The six cloud Bite Cats will be the site.
We hope to see everybody back there. Women's basketball in

(01:00:08):
action on Thursday on the road at Navy. Meanwhile, the
men in action eleven AM, about an hour and a
half from now, it feels like at the Bob Garberdue Center.
Until then, Thanks so much everybody.

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