Basketball - January 20, 2025

Guests: Martin Ingelsby, Erik Timko, Bill Phillips, Sarah Jenkins, Grace Sundback

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
You are listening to the Klondike Kates Blue Hens Basketball
Coaches Show presented by First State or the ped X,
featuring men's basketball head coach Martin Inglesby and women's basketball
head coach Sarah Jenkins on ninety four to seven w
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's Blue Hens Basketball Coaches showtime on ninety four to
seven w DSDFM presented by First State orthoped X. We
hope you've enjoyed your snow day and we're able to
reflect upon the impact of the great Martin Luther King,
Junior and celebrate his life on MLK Day. We welcome
you into the Lacaso Pasta Restaurant. I'm Scott Klaskin. Tonight
we'll talk both men's and women's basketball. At seven thirty.

(00:46):
Sarah Jenkins along with Gray Sunbeck are back from a
trip down south and they'll chat with Matt Janis.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
I'll be talking with men's basketball.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Associate head coach Bill Phillips, who is here as well
as one of sixteen players in college basketball with two
thousand and career points. Eric Timpco is here as well.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
But first we welcome you into the College Football National
Championship pre game show with Martin eagles By and coach.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I mean, my goodness, if your commitment to this University
of Delaware basketball program has ever been in question, it
should no longer be for you to be here thirty
minutes prior to kickoff of Notre Dame versus Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Really impressed yourself. I try to talk you out of coming,
but you're here.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
I am here, you know, I was watching the preview
show Ryan Day talk to State. Of course, trust the
process is what we do. Stick to the same routine.
So I'm sticking to the same routine tonight and we'll
get back there to watch kickoff shortly.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
How you feeling about your iyers tonight? Yeah, I mean underdogs.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
They're the underdog, they got nothing to lose. Let's just
get to.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
The second half in the game.

Speaker 6 (01:47):
I love the defense.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Maybe Riley Leonard can have one of those big runs
to put a little pressure on the Buck guys, and
you know all the pressure is on them.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Just keep hanging around, all right, Well, we'll talk more.
We'll see how you're feeling at the end of your
secon Let's get it a bouckasketball though, because your team
has won four of their last five, you're shooting fifty
one percent as a team during that span and for
the last five games. Obviously, you guys have shot the
ball well all season long, but really starting to connect.
Do you feel like this is the best rhythm, the
best to flow that your team has been in so

(02:15):
far this year where you want.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
To be when you get in a league play.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
I mean, I think team really coming together, very confident
on the offensive end. Obviously, we really encourage that type
of unselfishness, playing together, sharing the basketball. We got five
guys that start the scoring double figures, so it can
be anybody's night to go off. And then I think
we're getting good constributions from guys off the bench. And
you know, the last two games, we've really taking a
step forward on the defensive end, like blocking out, rebound

(02:37):
the basketball. I think our physicality, our engagement, we've been
able to just drop some teams in the half court,
which has really helped us get out and score the basketball.
I mean that has been a strength of ours, to
be able to get out and put.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Some points on the board.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
If we can just continue to improve on the defensive
end and continue to share out of basketball.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
You know, I like where we are.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
You've played so far in league play as an individual
stats go in the CAAA, we've played against the top
four to three point shooters in the CAAA in the conference,
and you've done a great job on each of them,
most recently Nick Dorn, who started zero five from the
field against Elon. But you look back at the game
versus Mammoth at the Basher Landing Glass per cj Luster,

(03:18):
You've held those guys under their averages for the most part.
What has worked for your team in terms of slowing
down team's top scorer.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yeah, and I till I have to coach Phillips at
our coaching staff in our preparation. It's one of the
keys that we have to be able to take away
the three point line. And we label our guys green,
yellow and red shooters green shooters that those guys you
just mentioned, you know, we got to be able to
run them off the line. We can't give them in
any easy looks, make them two point shooters, and I
think it's a testament to our perimeter Cavin Isaiah Eric Niles,

(03:48):
those guys that are guarding those guys, We've switched a
lot of stuff and we just kind of made them
uncomfortable and making them play left handed right, trying to
take their strengths away. And if we can do that,
I think it puts ourselves in a position to be
really solid defensively.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Well, you guys have just that it was nine to nothing.
I think Elon was all of six at the first
media timeout on Saturday's game from the field game when
we mentioned those names. Abdebashir, I believe he's a nation
in three pointers May with seventy. He plays for mom
myth He didn't make a three pointer against Delaware in
the final thirty five minutes of the basketball game. You

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moved down next in the CAAA land in glassper He
went thirty six minutes without a three pointer against Delaware.
C J Luster had one three pointer in the first
thirty five minutes of the game, and then Nick Dorn
on Saturday didn't make a shot for the first twenty
four minutes of the game. So just to add some
facts into what you guys are doing against the team's
top scorers is pretty impressive stuff. Also, you mentioned rebounding

(04:42):
and how the team has been improving in that category
in the two losses that you have in league play
minus forty five. It's been a big factor this season
in terms of rebounding butting games you've won this week
plus twelve versus Stony Brook and you out rebounded Elon.
They're the sixth best team in the country in terms
of of rebounding. You out rebounded them in your victory.
How do you go from minus twenty four on Saturday

(05:06):
at Hampton to having such a good week on the glass?

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah, I mean, I think if you came to watch
this practice Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I think we really challenged
our group and got after it. Blockouts, pads, rebounding, rebounding, rebounding,
and then and you know again come back and challenge
our group and we're trying to play at times a
little bigger, you know, with maybe making Emory at the
four alongside John cam dinner with Kevin, and we sliff
shift Niles to the perimeter a little bit, but you know,

(05:32):
just coming back to really good habits on the defense
man as far as positioning, physicality, toughness, the grittiness around
the basket and if we want to do what we
want to do this year. We have to be better
on the defensive end and rebounding in the basketball. You know,
it's not just go get a rebound, it's blockouts and
sometimes just not letting your guy get the offensive rebound.
And somebody's got to step in there, because when we
do do that, you know, we're a pretty fun team

(05:53):
to play on the offensive end. So just keep getting
back to good happits. We did change a little bit
how we practiced. You know, Monday was a little more
of a light day. We've got after at the last
two Mondays, just to be able to set the tone
for the week.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Well, it certainly worked because you guys had a great
week in terms of rebounding. We do, between you and
I at least seventy on air interviews throughout the season.
We do have the coaches shows, we do pregame, we
do postgame. It was brought to my attention that there
was in the comments section somewhere it said Scott doesn't
ask coach about rebounding. He only wants to know the

(06:24):
player's favorite ice cream flavors. That was which which I
thought was pretty good comedic writing, because I do ask
silly questions at the coach show.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
I've asked you about rebounding.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
Right, yeah, plenty of y. I try to bring it up.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
To the point where you're doing so John one, two, five, six, nine, seven,
Stree name is, there's your there's a question about rebounding
the team though, I do want to ask maybe a
little bit nervous. On Saturday against Elon, it was a
little closer than it was when you guys were up
by nineteen points. You've won four of the last five games,
with two of those wins you led by twenty and nineteen.

(06:56):
Elon finished on a fourteen to one run. North Carolina
A and T. We went on a thirteen to oer
run during the final span of that basketball game. What
does the team need to do or improve in terms
of endgame and closing out these bigger ones.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, I think you know a couple of things that
we need to do better. Is I feel like we've
missed some free throws down the stretch to be able
to stop some of the opponent's runs and just to
be able to stay poised. You know, at the end
of the game they're down, the opponent's playing loose. I
think we've had some careless turnovers. Maybe we've taken some
quick shots and we just got a little out of sorts,
and then we got to get back in transition defense,

(07:29):
and we gave some opportunities to elon with maybe some
tough shots, and we didn't get back in transition. They
were able to get the foul line, they were able
to get at one or two buckets in transition offensive rebound.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
Led to a three.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
So all stuff that we can learn from. It's great
to learn from a we learn after a win, then
to have to deal with a tough loss in that moment,
but you got some new guys. We continue to teach,
we watch it, we learn from it, we feel it,
and then hopefully as we continue to get through the season,
we're better in those situations down the stretch.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
I thought a good atmosphere on Saturday, and of course
we've talked about it. Three of the first four games
in the CAAA on the road. I don't think anyone
in the league was trying to do the blue Heads
any favors this year, that's for sure as we move
on to Conference USA next year. But to come home
and defend that home court, did you guys talk about
that and how much it means.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
As a squad.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
Yeah, I think it's really important in a conference to
be able to win at home and as something that
we talked about at the beginning of the year and
taking great pride in who we are, how we're gonna play,
how we're gonna compete in front of our fans, and
then teams that can pee for championship regular season titles,
they don't get dinged at home, right, So to be
able to handle our business and get three in a
row at home to start the season was really important.

(08:38):
We've gotten off to great starts. We're scoring the basketball,
we're in a flow or ten of fifteen from the
three point line. The other night, I thought we had
some good looks in the second half we just didn't make.
But you know, we got to continue to take pride
and do it in front of our fans and our
home court and not let people leave the Bob Carpon
the center with a win.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well, one of the players that played well and continues
to do so this season we're gonna talk to in
the next segment.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
That's Tim Cole.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
He reaches two thousand's career point the other night at
home against Tony Brook. Most of the points at jefferson
great career there comes over and is a member of
the Blue Hens. To get two thousand, I mean the
two thousand active scorers list is a who'su. It's Hunter,
Dickenson and R. J. Davis, jen I broom, I mean,
so many players. For him to be on that.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
List is incredible. What is he brought to Delaware this year?

Speaker 5 (09:23):
Yeah, I mean just you know, he's an extremely hard worker.
He's a culture guy, program guy, the ultimate teammates. You know,
when he went in the portal, we thought he was
gonna go in two years ago, but he went into
this year and I just think, you know, our staff
is like, we have to get this guy. He's what
we need, is what we didn't have last year. And
I think he is a better all around basketball player

(09:46):
than maybe I expected before.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
We got him.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
You watch the film, you see some practice tape, you
see him in games, but you know he's learning to
find ways to make an impact when teams take away
his three point shot. Obviously, that is one of the
greatest assets heat having. He's one of the best shooters
in college basketball. But he's getting to the foul and
he's put on the floor. He's being a playmaker. I
think his assist to turnover ratio in conference play is fabulous.
And then on the defensive end, you know, he's guarding

(10:09):
really talented Premery guys. He's rebounding the basketball. But he's
been fabulous. He's been a joy to coach, and I
want him to continue to play and be confident, be
aggressive for us moving forward.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Well, we're looking forward to talking to him, coach. Delaware
gotta win on Saturday. Your Philadelphia Eagles gotta win. Yesterday
we clean sweep.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Tonight we're four.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
I was trying to go four for four. We won Thursday.
On Saturday the Eagles there.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
We got all right, all right, Well, good luck. I
know you're gonna head out here. You are very committed,
and thank you so much for showing up on a
big night for your alma mater. We're gonna talk to
Bill Phillips in a little bit, but when we come back,
Eric Timpko will be with us live from the concert Possi.
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congratulations on all your success on the wednes this weekend.
Congratulations on reaching such a milestone two thousand career points

(13:01):
to how did it feel when that layup went through
and you hit the mark?

Speaker 10 (13:06):
I would say it still really hasn't like hit me
completely yet obviously, Like looking back on it, it's definitely
something like I'm proud of and I know, like down
the line, like when I like really look back at
just like college career and all that, Like, it's definitely
something I'm a cherish.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
It's it's certainly a very exciting moment, and we're glad
that you got I mentioned it a little bit with
coach ingles b segment, But two thousand career points. You're
one of sixteen players that are playing college basketball right
now that have made that mark. It's an all American team.
When you look at the players that have done it,
Mark Sears at Alabama, Hunter Dickinson at Kansas, RJ. Davis,

(13:42):
Caleb love J and I Broo and Ryan Kulkbrenner and
these names are all surrounding your name. It's pretty great
company to be a part of. And these guys have
all done it in way more games than you. One
hundred and three games it took you to get to
two thousand points. Are you where you kind of relieved
when it was behind? Do you know people were asking
you about it? Were kind of relieved, like, all right,
I don't have to worry about that anymore.

Speaker 10 (14:03):
Yeah. I mean I feel like a lot of it
was just kind of like preparing how I usually do
for games. Like you said, I feel like I heard
a lot about it, so it made me like think
in a sense. But I mean obviously, like I'm grateful,
like I was able to achieve that accomplishment and obviously
get done.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
So now you started your career at Jefferson, what was
the biggest adjustment that you found getting used to playing
at the division IE level. Of course, you had twenty
points in your very first game, so you made the
adjustment rather quickly.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
But what was it. What was the biggest adjustment that
you've seen.

Speaker 10 (14:34):
Yeah, I mean, I think it was for me. It's
just like the physicality of the game and stuff like that.
But I think obviously like being able to come in
during the summer sessions like early and like prepare both
in the weight room, like on the court, get just
like the speed of the game and like all that.
I feel like that definitely like really helped me.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Martin.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
It sounds like was trying to get you here a
season ago, but you go into the transfer portal after
three seasons at Jefferson Indiana to reach out. Penn State
reached out. You visited Drexel in Manhattan. What made Delaware
the spot for you?

Speaker 10 (15:06):
Yeah, I mean, I just I felt like it was
the best fit for me as a player, and obviously,
like I love the staff and just the facilities and
basically the whole the whole school in generally when I
came up here and I could tell like I was
definitely like like wanted and that was kind of like
my main thing to like build a relationship and just

(15:26):
get a good feel about the school. Like and when
I was in the portal, and I feel like delaware
checked all the boxes.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Do you feel like and you're probably been labeled and
rightfully so you've made two hundred and fifty threes or
you've eclipsed at almost two seventy five now in your career,
probably been labeled as a three point shooter. Did you
feel like, because it seems like you have been able
to attack the rid more to drive that you're more
than just a shooter. And do you feel like your
game is elevated since your time coming here in the summer?

Speaker 10 (15:52):
Yeah, I mean definitely. I think even just coming out
of high school, I feel like I was just more
so like a shooter and stuff, and like I had
like game off the bounce, But I just feel like
over the course of my college career, and then obviously
like this summer, it's really like elevated and just like
working on different things like throughout, like I know, coming here,
like my like pick and roll reads, I feel like

(16:14):
I've gotten a lot better than that was like an
emphasis like in the summer. So just like really just
like working on different things to just keep like building
my game.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
So talk with the Eric Timco third in the CIA
on free throw percentage, one of the top three point shooters,
and just players in the league. Let's talk more about
your journey to get here, because you mentioned all the
way back in high school, but it's not the typical
path that's for a Division IE player. Necessarily you played
on the freshman team, you're a freshman year, not necessarily
a varsity player yet and mathacton high school on the

(16:44):
JV team as a sophomore, and you still ended up
scoring a thousand points in high school. But you go
to college, you get a COVID year at Jefferson. So
what do you think factored in your path in terms
of being able to be where you are today.

Speaker 10 (16:58):
I think it's just really just like kind of like
the work I put in in a sense and just
kind of like that whole thing. Just like the hard
work like I put in into my game. I feel
like that's really like propelled me because like you said,
I mean, out of high school, I didn't have like
too much interest or anything. And then when I got
to Jeff, like I feel like obviously it was just
like unknown how I would perform. So I feel like

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being able to like work out and stuff like it
that year under my belt during the whole like COVID
year in a red shirt and just kind of get stronger,
like kind of like adapt more to the game. That
definitely like helped me like in the long run. And
then just obviously my time at Jeff learning from like
different coaches, Coach McGee, coach Riley, So I just feel
like it all kind of like panned out and just

(17:43):
I really like value all the time I had there.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
So well, you can tell you put in so much work,
and we're glad that it has led to where you
are today as a member of the Blue Hens. Your shot,
the form on your shot looks like something that you'd
make or see in an instructional video on YouTube if
you were teaching someone how to shoot a basketball.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
The first time I saw you.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
There was a media kind of season ticket holder event
and I walked into the gym and you were shooting
in the corner, and I took a video of you
to show my son. This is how you shoot a basketball.
Your elbows in, your knees are bent, your wrist. I mean,
it is a beautiful form. Where did you develop that?
How did you develop such a good looking shot?

Speaker 6 (18:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (18:21):
I mean I would just kind of say over the
course at time, like growing up, like I'll give credit
to my dad, So yeah, I would just say that.
And then obviously just like countless like reps and stuff
like that. Really, so I wouldn't say there's like an
exag form. But obviously I've heard like balance eyes of
a follow through.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
So yeah, I mean, if it's it's a beauty, it's
a Beautif it's a thing of BEAUTI if you haven't
gone to Delaware game and seen this guy shoot the basketball,
please come. Your dad ten played some college basketballt or
sign us to college as well, so a good guy.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
To teach you how to shoot.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
You are a great shooter at Delaware, You're a great
player for the Blue Hens. You are doing it in
the classroom as well. A four point zero GPA doesn't
literally get any better than that, So congratulations.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Obviously you're making the adjustment pretty well. What do you study?

Speaker 10 (19:07):
So I'm studying right now, like international business, but at
jeff ili God degree in business management and minor and
like sports management. So just kind of like go in
the business route because I just feel like there's multiple
avenues like with that in a sense.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Well, I feel like you'll be playing basketball for a
long time.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Whenever you're done with that, you're gonna be a success
in the business world as well. Let's get you the
final five questions so quick, just faster questions coming your way.
A great shooter. We've talked about that. Who's your favorite
shooter of all time?

Speaker 10 (19:37):
I don't know if I have a favorite shooter, like
favorite like NBA player, I would say it would be
like Devin Booker.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Devin Booker, What do you like about Devin That's that's
an interesting answer that you don't always hear.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Devin brook What do you like about Devin Booker's game?

Speaker 10 (19:49):
I mean, I just like his game, like how he
like gets to his spots, plays his strengths, and just
like I feel like it's like a game that I
can kind of model my game in a sense around
in certain aspects.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
All Right, I've got one hundred and four career games played.
You've started one hundred and three career games. Do you
remember the one that you did not start?

Speaker 11 (20:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (20:07):
I do.

Speaker 10 (20:08):
It was senior night like this last season or whatever,
because I think we had we had like six people
and then like one person was going to start, and
then we had to draw the name out of a
hat out of the other five, and then I was
obviously like the unlucky one. But I think I think
it's more just like a funny story.

Speaker 6 (20:27):
At the end of the day, I think it.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
I think that the one off and to find out
it was drawing names out of a hat is the
reason that you didn't start the one game is pretty neat.
I always like to shout out family members that are
doing big things as well. Your sister Nicole in high
school the Pioneer Conference's second leading scorer of all time.
She scored seventeen over seventeen hundred points in her high

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school career and two hundred and sixty eight career three pointers,
just like her brother did pretty well in the high
school game as well. She's playing college basketball. Who wins
in a game of horse between you and Nicole?

Speaker 10 (20:58):
I mean, I'm I'm gonna say myself all time.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
So now oddly, and it's one thing to have a
family member play college basketball. It's another to play non
conference games against a random team almost on identical days.
When we played at Duquane, your sister played there two
days later. Did the family make a trip up?

Speaker 8 (21:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (21:16):
My parents ended up coming up and obviously that's convenience
for them, so they just kind of watched us play
I think it was Friday, and then just stayed obviously
till next day or two when my sister played.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Pretty convenient stuff. They got to know Pittsburgh pretty well.
This is what I always want to know. What is
your favorite ice cream flavor?

Speaker 10 (21:35):
Probably cookies and cream, it's kind of basic.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
And then lastly, what's your favorite part of being a
part of this basketball team?

Speaker 10 (21:42):
Yeah, I mean I just think kind of just the atmosphere,
just kind of like the culture and just obviously like
we have a great group of guys, and I think
it's just it's just been fun so far this year
and just kind of like obviously it's been an adjustment,
but I'm enjoying it and I'm excited for what's ahead.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Well, we are to keep up the great work.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
You guys won four out of five and I think
you guys are just getting started. So thanks so much
for being here.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Thank you, riv Timpco everybody. We'll take the time out
we come back. Bill Phillips will be on the program
after that.

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I'm Scott Klapskin somewhere driving to a television as Martin
Englesby hopefully tuning in right now in ninety four to
seven WDSD, but not to fear Associate head coach Bill Phillips.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
So you are here, Thank you so much for joining
for second and three.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Scott, thanks for having me absolutely with you any anytime
you're in You're in relief right now, as as Martin
finds his Notre Dame squad on television, I'm gonna ask
you questions about this Blueheads team, but I want to
tell a story about you for our listeners because a
really neat thing I don't know how many people know
about when we played Saint John's A really a neat

(24:39):
family moment, your dad, Bill Phillips. Also Bill Phillips, who's
seven foot two? Can you confirm that seven foot seven foot?

Speaker 6 (24:46):
All right?

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Well, they gave him a couple of inches.

Speaker 15 (24:48):
Quite up there with Van Coleman College, Yes, right, seven four.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Van Coleman played at Saint John's. He was a center
at Saint John's. He averaged nearly a double double as
a junior, and he got to be in the building
at Saint John's. How neat was that for you and
your family?

Speaker 16 (25:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Really cool.

Speaker 15 (25:03):
My parents had flown up from they live in Florida now,
They had flown up for Christmas, and he had played
for coach Carnaseca and I was hoping that he was
going to get one more chance to see him. And
then Coach carna Seca passed away a couple weeks before
that made it to ninety nine though, which is amazing. Yeah,
but yeah, great for my dad to be back, you know,

(25:26):
in the arena that he had played in, you know,
years ago.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
And then you had some experience in they called Alumni
Hall back then. Yeah, but you had some experience there
as well.

Speaker 15 (25:34):
Yeah. I remember being a ball boy for some of
those games growing up and heckling guys on the other
team and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
So, and while I'm trying to find information on your dad,
I realized that your dad played against coach Jinglesby's father.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
It was Saint John's played against Villanova.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
A Richie Liones buzzer beater in nineteen seventy two gave
Saint John's the win. Tom Englesby had twelve points in
that game, so they knew each other as well.

Speaker 15 (25:59):
It must have been a low for tomicals because he
was a hell of a player, so he must have
had an off night.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Well, you know he was a heck of a player
as well. Pretty neat stuff.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
And I know you and Martin are pals so throughout
this year's and been coaching here at Delaware together for
nine seasons. And you know what, You've got a heck
of a team right now that's playing really good basketball.
Some award winners this week around the CAAA. John Camden
was named Player of the Week.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Rightfully so.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
In the CIA, he's been averaging over twenty points per
game in league play, almost twenty three points over his
last seven. He is a second leading scorer in CIA
games in the whole conference. He leads the CIA and
field goal percentage in league games at fifty eight percent,
which is remarkable because the rest of the guys on
that list shoot a little closer to the basket.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
How has he elevated his game even higher?

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Since?

Speaker 4 (26:46):
Since maybe that Saint John's game, He's been on a tear.

Speaker 15 (26:48):
Yeah, you mentioned the Saint John's game. I think he's
played huge in all of our big games. I think
back to the Yale game, the Saint John's game, he
was great. Elon came in as a top team in
the CIA, and John was obviously to on Saturday. So
he's been great. We love him. He works really hard
and he's just been a great addition to our program.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
He certainly has it and we're glad that he is
really hitting his shrine. He'll continue. Another rookie or another
award winner this week was Isaiah Pasha. Three times now,
he's been the CIA Rookie of the Week, and he
leads all freshmen in scoring in the CIA. He actually
leads all freshman blocks too, which is an impressive stat
for a point guard. Second amongst freshmen, in rebounding, second

(27:30):
amongst freshmen, and assists. We are talking, we are starting
off his Rookie of the Year campaign right now. But
Isaiah Pasha had the ball in his hands at the
end of that game when it was close, and I
know some of the shots didn't fall, and I know
he probably wants that trip to the free throw line back.
He'll learn from that though, but you've got to love
the confidence of a first year player to have the
ball in his hands in those moments.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
For sure, he's a great kid.

Speaker 15 (27:52):
He works really hard, Like you said, he wants the
ball in his hands, and he's been terrific up to
this point. I think he's obviously leading for Rookie of
the Year if you know, if it was awarded today. Yeah,
And I think he's only going to continue to get
better and keep learning through these end of game situations,
and by the time we get to February and March,
I think he's gonna, you know, be a step ahead

(28:14):
of where he is now.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
You guys are pretty good at recruiting.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
You know, it would be your fourth Rookie of the
Year if if he gets it this year, four out
of eight, I'm gonna say, because you got it, really
didn't participate last year in any of the the rookie Yeah, right,
so Ford, So if he gets it, I mean, really
impressive stuff. What do you guys have been able to
do in terms of bringing talent in And Isaiah's not
alone in terms of being a rookie that's really playing
some solid basketball. Make an Emery thirty seven points over

(28:39):
his last five games. He had twenty seven points in
his first twelve games. What's been clicking for him as
he's really turned a corner.

Speaker 15 (28:46):
Yeah, he just came out of the gates a little slow,
but he was terrific all preseason, led our team and
three pointers made in three point field goal percentage through
all of our practices. Just got to the first game
and you know, maybe a little bit of those freshman
nerves and once he broke through the damn it's kind
of opened up the floodgates here. And this is kind
of you know, we're not surprised by the level he's

(29:08):
playing at right now. This is kind of who we
thought he could be for us, and same things as Isaiah,
you know, for making skis the limit. These guys are
really talented and they worked really hard.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah, we're impressed by by the way that the whole
team was playing. Four the last five have gone the
way of the Blue Hens. Talking with Bill Phillips as
you wrap up this segment to make room for a
women's basketball heading up the road to Hofstra and then
up the road to Drexel this week, there was during football,
I remember there was like the farewell tour, but we were.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Playing like at A and T and at Momas.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
It didn't really have the same feel to say, in
farewell to some of those places that are newer in
the conference. These ones feel a little bit different though,
going to Hallstra playing at Drexel for the at least
the last time in conference play there, these are meaningful
games this week.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Yeah, big week.

Speaker 15 (29:52):
We want to continue with the momentum that we've started
to build here, and you have to be able to
kind of take the show on the road and prove
that you could do it on the road. So I
think our team is excited about it. And yeah, hopefully
we're leaving those buildings with wins for the last time
in the CIA.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
We want to make good memories leave off of with
with good memories in those buildings.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Coach, I appreciate you coming on to the show. I'm
sure Martin Ingles be and it persits it even more.
He's probably gonna make kick off.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
All right, best of luck this week. We'll see up
the road in New York. That's the sociate head coach
Bill Phillips. Everybody that'll do it for the men's basketball.

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Portion of the program.

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When we come back from this next time out, it'll
be Matt Janis and Sarah Jenkins'll be here to talk
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As you are listening to the Blue Hens Basketball Coaches
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Speaker 6 (32:52):
And welcome back to Hens Basketball Coaches Show. I'm Matt Jennis,
joined out by the head coach of the women's basketball program,
Share It Jenkins coach. Tough weekend, obviously, in the back
end of it, gotta win against Campbell or against Hampton.
Had to feel pretty good about that tough game against
the Campbell Campbell's. On Sunday, we're going to talk about

(33:12):
a lot of basketball. But I know it's been a
tough time for you lately. We wanted to pick you
up just a little bit. Tomorrow is your birthday, so
we got a little bit of a cake for you.

Speaker 20 (33:23):
Thank you, Thank you. This made me smile. Don't blow
it out and Okay, I'm not gonna blow it out.
This made me smile. I needed to smile.

Speaker 8 (33:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 20 (33:32):
I'm getting old, man.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
I know. We put the number down just in case
you forgot.

Speaker 20 (33:35):
It's no, I'm twenty four, not forty two. I'm twenty four.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
You know, it is pretty funny because the waitress was
kind enough. She came over to take a look at you,
and she did doubleto oh wait, you want to sing?
Everybody want to sing? Let's go one, two, three?

Speaker 8 (34:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 21 (34:05):
I love you guys, Thank you so much, thank you,
thank you, thank you. I hope Scott paid for this,
for having me do this today on the National Championship
game that tips supposed.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
To be right now for that first segment. Then we
had to make sure that you were out here, and
I hope you enjoyed that cape. We got chocolate, your
favorite flavor for you.

Speaker 10 (34:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
And you know what, tomorrow is your official birthday. That
kind of can be a start a new and that's
kind of what your team's looking for right now. Is
a tough one against Campbell and Sunday. What went wrong
in your mind?

Speaker 8 (34:34):
Everything? You know?

Speaker 20 (34:35):
I just think you know.

Speaker 21 (34:39):
You know as this this is such a tough job.
You know, like everybody, you know, it's great, it's awesome.
It has good moments and it has bad moments. But
you know the reality is we're just not very good
right now. You know, we're not we're not very consistent.
We show sparks of being really good and doing really
great things, and then we show a lot of moments
of just being awful. And so you know, we're working

(35:02):
really diligently as a staff to find ways to get
our kids to mesh and play well together.

Speaker 20 (35:08):
And you know, a big part of it is injuries.

Speaker 21 (35:12):
You know, I hate to keep bringing that up, but
you know, we've got key players that aren't playing and
haven't played all year, and we've got people playing out
of position. And with the injuries that we have right
we only have eight healthy we have eight people that
can play. Out of the eight people that can play,
five of them are healthy. So we got three people
who are playing on limited minutes. They can't practice, they

(35:34):
really just playing games. And so our chemistry is not
awesome because we don't all practice together. So it's a
lot of factors involved, you know, and so we've got
to figure out. You know, this is really good for
me as a coach because I'm learning how to man.
I feel like I've gotten the whole shelf thrown at
me first time as a head coach, Like I feel
like I should have got a break by now, you know,

(35:56):
like I'm getting all.

Speaker 20 (35:57):
I'm getting everything in the first time around.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
Like goodness, We're getting it all out of the way,
and then eventually it'll get a little bit easier, a
little bit better for you. For sure, you will do
a lot of breaks. I was on the trip with
the team and kind of watching you guys go through
your practice and then your walkthroughs. You had how many
different people that were not student athletes out there on
the court trying to get the team through the prep
for the Campbell game.

Speaker 21 (36:19):
On We've got our coaches practicing. We signed a walk
on because we needed we needed another body, so we
signed a walk on. I'll tell you, guys, this story,
this is kind of sums up the luck I've had
this year. So you know when we got we had
to cancel a couple of games this year. I know
you guys are aware, because we didn't have enough players
to play the games, healthy players to play, and you know,

(36:41):
so we went as a staff and recruited and tried
to sign some.

Speaker 20 (36:44):
Kids that were still available.

Speaker 21 (36:46):
So we signed a postgrad kid that's a high school
kid that prepped the year, and we signed a kid
she was supposed to come January first, and she calls
me the day before she's supposed to come in tears
because shere leg.

Speaker 20 (37:03):
I'm like, I.

Speaker 8 (37:04):
Can't make it up.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
You know, it's just it's.

Speaker 21 (37:07):
We chuckle and we laugh, but you know, it's just
a part of it's a part of our story. It's
a part of my story. It's a part of our journey.
And I know something really good is gonna come out
of this. Our kids are learning how to be resilient,
they're learning how to be tough. They're learning how to
play and compete versus in adversity because it's hard for
them too. And so you know, we're learning as a group.

(37:29):
And you know, I am hoping that a miracle happens
and we just pull it all together in March when
it counts and we walk out of here with a
trophy and everybody's happy, and I won't remember any of this.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
Life is all about timing. Obviously, you're working towards that
time of the year. You did show some signs though,
and that win against Hampton on Friday. Obviously shot the
basketball well, that makes life a lot easier. You made
your first four threes, I think it was seven of
your first eight from distance, But what else did you
do well that allows you to get that lead against
the Pirates and then put it away.

Speaker 20 (38:00):
When we have good starts, we play really well.

Speaker 21 (38:02):
And I think if you go back and look at,
you know, the few games that we've won, it's because
we've just had really good starts. And that's a big
emphasis for us is to have good starts and when
we get off to a really good, good lead, we
usually don't lose it. And so that and as you
continue to play better teams, that's tough to do early on,
and that's I think where we have to learn how

(38:24):
to get better.

Speaker 20 (38:25):
We have the rallies in the games.

Speaker 21 (38:27):
Where you know this team, like against Campbell, we mad,
we went on a nine to oh run, then they
went on a nine oh run, and it's like, we
have to learn how to manage the rallies because they're
going to happen, and we haven't done a good job
of that.

Speaker 20 (38:39):
So we're working to get better with that.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
I feel your pain because I still haven't figured out
the new equipment yet. Scott's trying to give me hand
signals in the back. I keep turning you down. And
I'm about that.

Speaker 20 (38:47):
Such a rookie man.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
Speaking of somebody that had a great rookie year and
that would have been an integral part of the team
this season. Great sunback is going to join us in
our next segment, and your heart just breaks for her
to see the injury the time.

Speaker 20 (39:01):
No, my heart breaks for me, not her, for me,
you know, no, I am.

Speaker 21 (39:06):
It's unfortunate, but you know, Grace is a really good kid.
She's going to be a leader for our program, and
she's an example for our group and really good for
our culture. And it's just part of her story too,
you know. You know, it's just we don't understand why
God allows things to happen the way that they happen,
and it just does. And you know, we adjust and
we manage and we move forward, and you know the

(39:28):
best is yet to come for her. The bad news
for her, she's stuck with me for four more years.

Speaker 8 (39:32):
That's that sucks for her.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
Good news for us, though, we're really excited about it.
We're going to talk to her when we cut back.
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Speaker 6 (41:32):
Welcome back to Blue Hens Basketball Coaches Show. I'm back, Jess.
We are joined now by the sophomore of the Blue
Hens Grace sunback kind enough to be with us here,
and Grace, I know it's killing you to not be
out there playing right now, but it's great to see
around the program a little bit more now that you're
getting a little bit healthier. Can you walk us through

(41:53):
the first thing that went through your mind when you
found out that it was going to be an injury
that would cost you the entire year.

Speaker 8 (42:00):
I was like, how am I going to tell Coach
Dinkins this. I was very nervous. You know. I was
out a little bit last year with the back injury,
and then I came back and I was finally getting
into the swing of things in the summertime going into September,
and then it was like boom, another just another hit.
And I think that I just feel now. I just

(42:23):
feel very supported by the program, by the coaches, by
the sports staff. They're the best and they make me
feel like I'm gonna be back in no time.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
What has the process been like? The athletic training staff,
medical staff here Delaware does such a magnificent job. You
mentioned the support that you've received. What has the process
been going from Okay, I'm injured, I'm out for the
year to what's next.

Speaker 8 (42:47):
Yeah, so we're very We're very progressive in my rehab.
You know, I'm already doing I'm already on the bike,
I'm already back to lifting upper body. I feel very good.
I feel like I'm moving at a good pace. You know,
I couldn't walk like three weeks ago regular, So I'm
back walking very normal. I already got my bracet I'm

(43:10):
going to play in when I come back. So I
feel very good about this process.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
I was down there for a football game. It was
not too long after you got injured, but you were
able to come back and were at practice. I remember
the football games, all the parking lots are shut down,
so I think you were parked all the way across
the street over by the new campus. I felt terrible
for I was three lanes over. I was trying to
get over just to give you a ride. You Yeah,
that big cast that was what up above almost to
your hip? How is how long did it take you

(43:36):
to get used to that and trying to be mobile again?

Speaker 8 (43:39):
You know, as soon as I got used to it, it
was like, hey, you don't need it anymore. But yeah,
it took me a little while. I when I first
got out of surgery. Actually, I had this big wrapper
ond my leg and then they put me in the brace.
It was a struggle because it was like do I
put it over my pants or we we're underneath. It
was very frustrating, but I every chance I get, I

(44:01):
try to be there for the team. You know, now
that I'm like not playing, I still have other responsibilities,
but I try to be there for the team as
much as possible. So if that means I have to
walk across three parking lots, I will.

Speaker 6 (44:13):
It was it was Yeoman's work. A little surprise, Starry
Jenkins actually didn't figure out a way to get is
a transportation back to your car, but you made it
so it worked out, all right. What are those responsibilities
when they have you do it in practice?

Speaker 8 (44:25):
Yeah? So in practice, I'm kind of just watching, observing,
making sure I know the plays. Talking to my teammates,
I think is the biggest thing for me on the sidelines,
you know, being that balance when coach Jenkins getting in
there butt, making sure I lift them up. And also
just I think I can say I have a pretty
good basketball at que, so you know, seeing it from

(44:47):
a different perspective, I can give them some insight on
what the game looks like.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
You have an excellent basketball like it. It was one
of the things that the coaching staff, to a person,
all said about you before you made your day. Last
year as a freshman, we saw it on the court
on full display. And it's kind of funny because last year,
you know, you missed the early portion of the season.
And I'm lucky enough to be at all the games
home and road, and lucky enough to get to know

(45:14):
all the Blue Hens fans, and they're very kind that
they'll talk to me, and I feel like I've gotten
to know pretty much everybody. And so if there's a
person wearing Blue Hen's gear on the road, pretty easy
to figure out it's a kid's parents, and so you
kind of just watch who they're watching, and that's whose
parents they are. There was a woman that would be

(45:35):
there at the moment the gates opened every single game
on the road last year. You get in an hour
before the start of the game, and she would be
in the seats and she would either be sitting right
behind me or right across from me. I was trying
to figure out who it was, but I'm watching and
she's just scanning the entire court and she is watching it.
I thought maybe it was a scout. She's watching every
single play, every single drill, and I asked the coaching stuff.

(45:57):
He said, who is that. I've never met her as
a fan. Can't be one of the parents. She has
too much interest in everybody what they're doing. And she said, no,
that's Grace's mom. So where did your mom's intensity for
the game of basketball come from?

Speaker 8 (46:10):
My mom played at Pace University, so she was a
college athlete as well. She played basketball, and she's been
like that ever since I started playing. She's never missed
a game, she's never missed a practice, she's never missed anything.
She's my number one fan. And she's also whatever team
my mom's number one fan as well. She's she knows

(46:31):
the game of basketball, so she's always watching. She's definitely
always giving critiques.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
You've gotten some of those over the years.

Speaker 8 (46:37):
Definitely, Yeah, but she's great. She never missed a game,
whether it was in Charleston or Newark, Delaware.

Speaker 6 (46:46):
Who is a harsher critic, Sarah Jenkins or you're on
I'm not gonna please the fit, all right, that's that's
my fault. I apologize what is the best piece of
basketball advice she ever gave it.

Speaker 8 (46:59):
I think one of the best pieces of advice you
ever gave me was to have fun and never take
it for granted because of moments like this. You never
know when it can be taken away from you. And
the game of basketball is a game. It's supposed to
be fun. You know, winning is fun, Losing is not fun.
So that's the goal.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
What has it been like being a quasi regular student here.
I mean, you still have your responsibilities with a basketball program.
You're around all the time, but it's not as all
encompassing as maybe it otherwise would be. Is living life
like the rest of us got a chance to do?
Been okay for it?

Speaker 8 (47:35):
Yeah? You know, since I was about six years old,
it's always been school in basketball, So not having that
other component is it was kind of strange at first,
but you know, recovery is taken that place now, so
that's kind of what I'm focused on, and I think
it's kind of a great opportunity for me to excel
in the classroom, which is what I'm focusing on right now.

Speaker 6 (47:57):
You're a good student. Coaches always talk about that, you're
doing homework right before you got here today. We're hitting
the books hard, right to the point where he made
Sarah Jenkins maybe just a little bit nervous about your arrival.
But you were taking care of business, which is what matters.
I hope Sarah Jenkins remembers that a little bit later on.
But what is your favorite part about being the student

(48:17):
part of student athlete?

Speaker 8 (48:19):
I would say my major sports management, So getting that
the learning experience, about learning different things about coaching, maybe
doing something like this, the talk show like this. I
think that that's really my favorite part. Connecting the two
my favorite thing to do and my lifestyle that I'm

(48:41):
going to have to live after this. I think that's
my favorite part.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
Well, listening to you talk right now, you'd already be
better at it than me. But one piece of advice,
maybe learned how to use the equipment before you start
doing the thing. Last thing, as you go through your
process of rehabit and you're watching your team and they're
struggling a little bit, how much does that hurt and
how are you trying to support them?

Speaker 8 (49:03):
Yeah, I think that the watching is the most the
hardest part because I know how much I can help
them if I was out there but like I said before,
I think just being that balance of you know, when
they need a kick in the butt or when they
need to just have a hug. On the next day.

Speaker 6 (49:22):
Well, when you arrived on campus, Sarah Jenkins said, your
nickname would be Gracie Buckets. Wasn't the best of nickname?
I think we're looking for you knocking down a lot
of threes in the future. Thank you so much for
taking the time to be with us. Good luck with
your rehappy thanks sun back. We will return with Sarah
Jenkins all the Blue Yn's Basketball Coaches show.

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Speaker 6 (51:50):
Welcome back Bluen's Basketball Coaches Show here from Lacasa Pasta
in Newark. I'm bad Jannis with Sary Jenkins' final set
of our show. Sarah, you heard from Gray sunback a
moment ago. I know that you're really missing her out
there on the court. She can do so much for
this team. What do you think that is the thing

(52:14):
that you're counting on from her in the future moving.

Speaker 21 (52:16):
Forward, Her leadership on the floor basketball IQ And I mean,
you know, Grace is just a player. You know, she
can make plays, she can score, she can create for
other people, and that's something we're really missing right now.
So when she gets back, I know, she'll be a
huge factor with what we're doing.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
You guys were switching up defenses a little bit on
the road trip. You went to a lot of three
to two zone. It worked pretty well against Hampton. You
went back and forth because it was different skill set
obviously from Campbell that you were dealing with rebounding out
of the zone. Though it has been a little bit
of an issue Ered Martin Ingles be talking about all
the work they did last week. What are you trying
to work on with the kids to get him to
hit the glass a little bit more.

Speaker 21 (52:54):
Yeah, you know, we do a little bit of boxing
out drills, but I'm kind of mortified to do a
lot of box our trills because I don't want anybody
else to get hurt, so, you know, but it's it's
just a point of emphasis, and we're doing a lot
of film and watching a lot of stuff and just
showing them the importance of boxing out and rebounding. And
you know, we were better in Campbell, but Campbell wasn't

(53:16):
as a as as aggressive.

Speaker 8 (53:18):
Of a rebounding team.

Speaker 21 (53:20):
But we weren't good at Hampton and we still give
up nineteen offensive rebound and so that's that's an achilles hill.
We've really got to figure out, you know. And part
of it is we don't have any posts subs.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
Right They're wearing down of the course of the game,
aren't they.

Speaker 21 (53:36):
Yeah, But you know, we got to do it, you know,
And those are things that if we want to win
and we want to turn our season around, those are
things that we're going to have to figure out how
to do and get it done and commit to doing
and boxing out as a will. You know, it's not
a skill set, it's a will and a desire to
get the ball, and we've got to figure out how
to get that.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
How you keeping this team together, And it's one of
the strengths of your program right now, the culture and
you look at these kids, all the adversity they've been through.
I mean, you mentioned earlier losing the two games, just
not having enough scholarship players availably at a walk on
in the middle of the season. You thought you were
getting another kid that falls through at the very last second.

(54:13):
You lose your sophomore sharpshooter just before the start of
the year, your freshman sensation goes down for a season
ending injury, and yet they keep showing up ready to work.
How you doing that?

Speaker 21 (54:24):
Get good group that's really a family. And you know,
at the end of the day, we're always going to
talk about love and family and caring for one another.
And you know, we do we really work hard to
make the environment something where they're not miserable. And you know,
I may not be in the happiest of moves, but
you know, I don't want the players to come in
there every day and feel sad or miserable or depressed,

(54:48):
or they don't want to come. And so we work
really hard to create an environment where they want to
be there and it's a safe place for them, and
they enjoy coming to practice every day, and they want
to be in the office and they want to be
in the locker room.

Speaker 8 (55:00):
And you know, I think.

Speaker 21 (55:01):
That's what's given us the edge to keep going, because
they don't hate coming in there, you know. And I
know a lot of programs when you lose, like we're
losing right now, you know, the kids don't want to
come anymore, and they don't want to practice, and they
don't want to work hard, and so we're trying to
make sure that we create an environment where they still
enjoy it. And they still love it and they want
to work to get better.

Speaker 6 (55:20):
You mentioned a culture of love, and it's a good
segue to what we're celebrating today Martin Luther King Junior Day,
and it's about the impact that he has had and
what he was able to do means to you.

Speaker 21 (55:34):
I mean, I you know, just grateful for the legacy
that he's left and the opportunities that have been afforded
to all people. You know, I can be a college
basketball coach because of the sacrifices that he made and
others before him and before me, and so really grateful
for that.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
This weekend a big homestand you've got an Elon team
that has been up and down this year and the
Charleston team that is amongst the best in the CIA.
But you're getting to play at the Bob where the
past and in that conference play. You guys have had
a lot of success. What's the key to get in
a couple of w's this weekend.

Speaker 21 (56:07):
We gotta make some shots. I think you know that's
gonna be our thing. We got to score and their
two teams, Charleston scores a lot, and we're gonna have
to score. And the same thing with Elon. We're gonna
just have to figure out ways to score. We got
a rebound, we got to score. But I think that's
the biggest thing. I go back to Campbell. You know
we shot one for fifteen in the fourth quarter. You
know we can't beat anybody doing that. So we've got

(56:30):
to figure out ways to put the ball.

Speaker 15 (56:31):
In the basket.

Speaker 6 (56:32):
And so you know, I'm about to leave here and
go home. I'm not as smart as Martin Eingles band
and go to Notre Dame. But did have a grandfather Catholic,
first generation immigrants, so like so many root for Notre Dame.
Gonna watch with my son, and my dad had three generations.
I know that I was watching you watch the Commander's game.
This weekend. We're going to the super Bowl. You are
suddenly a big Commanders.

Speaker 21 (56:53):
Yes, we're going to I am a Commander's fan. We
are going to the super Bowl, and somebody should invite
me to their house to watch it. Barb, can I
come over, Commanders. I know you are Eagles fan, all
those Eagles fans, man.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
And Barb's gonna watch you lose this week. But that's okay.
You made the call to your family as soon as
the game ends. You have a lot of memories of
watching sports with your family growing up.

Speaker 21 (57:17):
We did wear a big We just do a lot
of family stuff and you know, just grateful to have it.
Such a supportive family and a family that loves each
other in this together and spends a lot of time together.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
So I know you'll be celebrating with your family this week.
Were starting the show talking about your birthday. Nobody spends
more time on their birthday than you, so got to
close it out with a present. Last week on the show,
I said that I was going to get you a
scraper for your car, but the Goldbacks, Jen and Tom
they took my idea. You tell me all the time
what a great athlete you are. I've never seen you
do anything athletic in the slightest bit except one time

(57:52):
this past spring, this woman made a hole in want
at that Greek golf course. So we got her a
picture of the moment and the score card. That was
pretty impressive. This is awesome. Can I tell you guys
something you know?

Speaker 21 (58:04):
Unfortunately, Matt Janis is like, actually one of my friends.
I need to hang around better people because that's not
a good person. And we were playing golf. He was
playing golf with me. He didn't even see it because
he was getting water out of the water jug when
I was teeing off. You shouldn't do that in golf.
You're supposed to watch the person tea off.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
I get out of.

Speaker 6 (58:22):
The car and walk to your tea every single time.
This is Danny O'Connor, the men's basketball assistant coaches Faull.
He was there as well. Right as you walked through
to the tea, he goes, hey, can I get some water?
I said, yeah, no problem. Sarah takes an hour to
take a shot anyway, And by the time I did
I get the water, You're screaming, oh my gosh, oh
my gosh, Oh my gosh, And the whole golf course
turned around because you made a hole in one, you know,

(58:43):
the only one. The thing is, when you make a
hole in one, you're supposed to buy drinks for everybody
in the clubhouse. This person found a way to get
everybody to buy her drinks in the clubhouse at the end.
That is her talent in life.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
It was unbelievable. It was unbelieving.

Speaker 21 (58:56):
I also thought my luck in my omen was gonna
turn around. When I hit that ho in one, but
not quite yet with the basketball gods.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
We'll get it together this weekend, right, won't wait? All right?
Sarah Jenkins, so much fun. Happy birthday. I know you're
here celebrating the twentieth anniversary of number twenty two, So
enjoy it.

Speaker 8 (59:11):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
That'll do it for this edition of the Blue Men's
Basketball Coaches Show. Our next one comes up on February
the third at klondyke Ktes Women's basketball back at home
on Friday at the Bob against Elon men's basketball on
the road this weekend at Hofstraw on Thursday, and then
on Saturday at Drexel for Jay Hollihan. Back at our studio,
Eric Timco, Martin Ingles, b Bill Phillips, Scott Klatskin, Gray Sunback,

(59:36):
Sarah Jenkins, Matt Jennis. Thanks so much for being with us,
and we will talk to you soon.

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